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- 0:01Speaker 1: The Volume. The Denver Broncos beat the Seattle Seahawks 17-14
- 0:19Speaker 1: in overtime. We will dive into the game, but first,
- 0:23Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe, like the video, leave a comment below.
- 0:26Speaker 1: I think we need to begin with the quarterbacks because
- 0:29Speaker 1: that is going to be the headline from tonight's game.
- 0:32Speaker 1: And I do want to start with Sam Darnold, the
- 0:36Speaker 1: reigning Super Bowl champ. Obviously, Seattle at. 500 in the
- 0:40Speaker 1: middle of October is surely not what they expected. They've
- 0:44Speaker 1: lost to kicking the nuts games in a very, very
- 0:48Speaker 1: short period of time, take a deep breath, gather themselves,
- 0:52Speaker 1: and pray to God they can get their running backs
- 0:55Speaker 1: to return because right now their running game is really
- 0:58Speaker 1: forcing them to play a way that they don't want to.
- 1:01Speaker 1: And specifically Sam Darnold, who had two awful picks. I mean,
- 1:05Speaker 1: the first pick, getting hit, letting the ball go, getting undercut.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Everyone involved, awful. Luckily, they have an elite defense. They
- 1:13Speaker 1: get the ball back and they're able to drive right
- 1:15Speaker 1: down the field and get a field goal, send the
- 1:17Speaker 1: thing to overtime. Obviously, the play in overtime is about
- 1:21Speaker 1: as easy of a pick as a safety is going
- 1:23Speaker 1: to have. And I don't pretend to be Mike Shanahan,
- 1:28Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak, Gary Kubiak, Clay Kubiak here. But I do
- 1:32Speaker 1: know in that spot, you either have to hold the
- 1:35Speaker 1: safety with your eyes or to basically give your guy
- 1:39Speaker 1: more space in Shahid or get him the ball immediately
- 1:44Speaker 1: when the corner drops off. And obviously Sam did the opposite.
- 1:48Speaker 1: He made it a very easy play, which led to
- 1:51Speaker 1: the game-winning field goal for the Denver Broncos. But I
- 1:54Speaker 1: think you have to take a macro view of the
- 1:56Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks team. I was texting with my buddy Guy,
- 1:59Speaker 1: who just called the Niner game last week in Seattle.
- 2:02Speaker 1: And he's like, the one thing that's evident from the
- 2:05Speaker 1: booth is these backup running backs they have cannot run
- 2:09Speaker 1: the outside zone run because they're too slow. They're not
- 2:12Speaker 1: getting out there. Their running game is non-existent. So tonight,
- 2:15Speaker 1: I'm looking. I'm like, how many attempts did Darnold have?
- 2:19Speaker 1: He had 51. When I say 51 attempts and you're
- 2:23Speaker 1: going to be successful in the NFL, do you know
- 2:25Speaker 1: what names come to mind? Matt Stafford. Probably about it.
- 2:31Speaker 1: We saw Mahomes try to do that last year, and
- 2:33Speaker 1: it was a nightmare. Josh Allen just played a game.
- 2:36Speaker 1: He didn't even have 20 pass attempts. Stafford is kind
- 2:39Speaker 1: of a unique figure. Maybe Goff if they're rolling. But
- 2:42Speaker 1: even then, now with the emergence of Gibbs, they want
- 2:44Speaker 1: to hand the ball off a lot. There aren't many
- 2:46Speaker 1: players that operate like that. And him, because he's a
- 2:51Speaker 1: turnover-prone player, it's going to get him in very precarious
- 2:54Speaker 1: situations that turn into disasters. Like tonight. I mean, let's
- 2:59Speaker 1: face it. If we're going to call a spade a spade,
- 3:01Speaker 1: I shit on Arch Manning. last week against Oklahoma for
- 3:06Speaker 1: two interceptions that cost his team the game. Well, two
- 3:09Speaker 1: of their last three possessions, he threw a pick. And
- 3:12Speaker 1: obviously the one in overtime just is essentially a game ender.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Even with another quarterback. Like, I do believe this. When
- 3:20Speaker 1: you watch these primetime games, the quarterbacks, one comes off
- 3:24Speaker 1: the field, the other comes on the field. I think
- 3:26Speaker 1: Sam Darnold's playing a different sport than Bo Nix. And
- 3:28Speaker 1: I would imagine most people's opinion after that game is
- 3:31Speaker 1: Sam Darnold sucks. Sam Darnold's regressing. Well, if he is,
- 3:36Speaker 1: I don't know what Bo Nix is. UFL player? Now,
- 3:39Speaker 1: if you are going to force him to play this way,
- 3:41Speaker 1: and this was a thing going back to the Jets,
- 3:44Speaker 1: I remember hearing from people on the inside, when Sala
- 3:47Speaker 1: got the job, I think they had planned on keeping
- 3:49Speaker 1: Sam Darnold because they brought LaFleur, who is now the
- 3:52Speaker 1: head coach in Arizona, and the game plan was the
- 3:55Speaker 1: Shanahan offense were going to run the football and you
- 3:58Speaker 1: were going to throw the ball less than 30 times
- 4:00Speaker 1: a game. And half of those are going to be layups.
- 4:04Speaker 1: We're going to need you to make a couple plays,
- 4:06Speaker 1: but that is how the offense is constructed. Brian Fleury,
- 4:11Speaker 1: this new offensive coordinator, who I would imagine locally tomorrow
- 4:14Speaker 1: on Seattle local radio with the Heward brothers and all
- 4:17Speaker 1: those people are going to be questioning this guy. I
- 4:21Speaker 1: don't know him personally, but I do know how he
- 4:23Speaker 1: was trained, and he was not trained to throw the
- 4:26Speaker 1: ball 51 times a game. That's not in his playbook.
- 4:30Speaker 1: His playbook is to dominate on the ground. And right now,
- 4:35Speaker 1: with their starting running back out, their other returning running
- 4:39Speaker 1: back coming back off injury, they're dealing with guys who
- 4:42Speaker 1: are backups, probably more close to practice squad than starters.
- 4:47Speaker 1: And it puts a lot on Darnold. And you got
- 4:50Speaker 1: probably an average tight end. JSN is, I don't know,
- 4:53Speaker 1: fucking Jerry Rice. He is incredible. I mean, you watch
- 4:57Speaker 1: him tonight, you're like, he's the best wide receiver on
- 5:00Speaker 1: this field by a mile. I mean, the throw and
- 5:03Speaker 1: catch that he made in a triple coverage was elite.
- 5:08Speaker 1: But they are very dependent on Shahid to be a
- 5:11Speaker 1: number two. And, you know, I think in a perfect world,
- 5:13Speaker 1: he's a number three. And obviously a return guy. And
- 5:16Speaker 1: Cooper Cupp, like, like, bro, I, He was a sure-handed,
- 5:22Speaker 1: great possession wide receiver in his prime. And tonight he's
- 5:24Speaker 1: like dropping out routes. So their passing game, if it's
- 5:28Speaker 1: not 2-11, is extremely questionable. And then they're asking Sam
- 5:33Speaker 1: to play like Stafford. That's going to be a disaster.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Because you watch their defense. You know, early on, you
- 5:39Speaker 1: know what it looked like? They had heavy legs. Like
- 5:41Speaker 1: they had just played the most violent game of the
- 5:44Speaker 1: season three nights ago. It was like, okay, as that
- 5:48Speaker 1: game went on, those guys were out to embarrass Bo
- 5:51Speaker 1: Nix and embarrass Bo Nix they did. It was Sean
- 5:55Speaker 1: Payton versus McDonald and those 11 guys. And McDonald and
- 5:58Speaker 1: 11 guys dominated. They had 38 yards going into Bo
- 6:02Speaker 1: Nix last drive of the second half. They annihilated them.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Their offense is a disaster right now. And honestly, it
- 6:11Speaker 1: wasn't great last week. The fumble in the end zone
- 6:14Speaker 1: against the 49ers, they really got bailed out as the
- 6:17Speaker 1: Niners kind of separated. What happened in the third quarter?
- 6:21Speaker 1: Purdy threw a pick, short field. Debo blows the hammy,
- 6:25Speaker 1: Caleb style, ball just falls on the ground. So they
- 6:28Speaker 1: were gifted a couple short possessions. It is a difficult,
- 6:31Speaker 1: tall task for them to sustain drives when it's like, hey,
- 6:36Speaker 1: if this ball doesn't go toward 11, what are we
- 6:39Speaker 1: going to do? Because I think defensively, they're exceptional. I mean,
- 6:43Speaker 1: they are, as that game got going, it's like the violence,
- 6:46Speaker 1: the speed in which they played. And the other thing is,
- 6:50Speaker 1: as a buddy texts me, Sam got sacked for the
- 6:52Speaker 1: fifth time. Some of it's on him. I think I
- 6:55Speaker 1: saw Orlovsky put a stat on some show I was
- 6:58Speaker 1: watching him on. He's holding the ball like, four-tenths of
- 7:02Speaker 1: a second longer than last year, which is the longest
- 7:04Speaker 1: in the league. He's clearly a little rattled back there.
- 7:09Speaker 1: He has plays where he looks fine, and others where
- 7:12Speaker 1: Herb Street pointed it out tonight. Got a little happy feet.
- 7:14Speaker 1: And I think this gets back to the simple fact
- 7:19Speaker 1: that he's not built as a player to carry you
- 7:23Speaker 1: 50-plus time attempt to game guy. That's not going to
- 7:26Speaker 1: be his strength. Just like the majority of players in
- 7:30Speaker 1: the league are not built to do that. This goes
- 7:32Speaker 1: back to Mahomes, who coming into last year, I think
- 7:34Speaker 1: we would all agree, is one of the greatest players
- 7:38Speaker 1: of all time, who's the best and most accomplished player
- 7:41Speaker 1: of his generation. And that just takes a toll on you,
- 7:45Speaker 1: throwing 45, 50, 55 times a game. especially if your
- 7:50Speaker 1: offensive arsenal is kind of limited. And they've got to
- 7:53Speaker 1: find a way to get these running backs to have
- 7:56Speaker 1: a chance to function on offense. I still will be stunned,
- 8:00Speaker 1: assuming those guys can come back over the course of
- 8:02Speaker 1: the next couple weeks, if this isn't a double-digit win team.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Their coach is too good. Their defense is too good.
- 8:08Speaker 1: But sometimes you live by the sword, you die by
- 8:11Speaker 1: the sword. Sam's going to turn the ball over. And
- 8:13Speaker 1: the more times you put them in these positions, just
- 8:16Speaker 1: carry us with your arm. That can happen, especially against
- 8:18Speaker 1: a good defense. Like Vance Joseph and that defense is good. Like,
- 8:23Speaker 1: are they as great as I think we once thought
- 8:25Speaker 1: they would be? Clearly not. You know, Fung is out.
- 8:27Speaker 1: But they're still pretty good. Well-coached, fast, physical. I mean,
- 8:32Speaker 1: Singleton's a monster linebacker. Their D-line's good. DBs are just well-coached.
- 8:36Speaker 1: I mean, there were a couple of plays that JSN made. Like,
- 8:38Speaker 1: what are you supposed to do? Like, I mean, they're
- 8:41Speaker 1: covering him like they're Deion Sanders or Darrell Rivas. And
- 8:44Speaker 1: on the flip side, like, I remember Doc Rivers said,
- 8:49Speaker 1: your talent has to outweigh your problems. And looking at
- 8:54Speaker 1: Bo Nix, his production definitely doesn't outweigh his lack of
- 9:00Speaker 1: football intelligence. Tonight, he made two of the dumbest plays
- 9:06Speaker 1: I've ever seen. The second to last drive on a
- 9:11Speaker 1: ball or on a play where he's just getting flushed
- 9:14Speaker 1: out of the pocket, where most quarterbacks, as right before
- 9:18Speaker 1: they go out of bounds on first and 10, they
- 9:21Speaker 1: just flick the thing to the sideline and they just
- 9:23Speaker 1: live to fight second and 10. Nothing you can do.
- 9:26Speaker 1: No one even thinks twice about it. He just ran
- 9:30Speaker 1: out of bounds. And then on their last drive, of
- 9:35Speaker 1: the second half before Seattle got it back and drove
- 9:39Speaker 1: the field. Seattle had to use all their timeouts. They
- 9:41Speaker 1: had three timeouts, had to get a three and out,
- 9:43Speaker 1: get the ball back, give themselves a chance to either
- 9:46Speaker 1: win it or obviously tie it. One third down, they
- 9:49Speaker 1: called this screen, which I thought was like, I would
- 9:52Speaker 1: just run the ball. But it's like, okay, I guess
- 9:56Speaker 1: you trust the quarterback. The screen clearly was not there.
- 10:00Speaker 1: So instead of just hitting the ground and forcing them
- 10:05Speaker 1: to use a timeout, it's under two minutes. When he
- 10:08Speaker 1: did that, when he threw the ball, there was a
- 10:15Speaker 1: minute 16 left on the field or on the clock.
- 10:19Speaker 1: And he just threw it right at the Seattle defender.
- 10:22Speaker 1: It's like, this gets to the Jaden Daniels thing last week.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Part of being a quarterback. I remember one thing I
- 10:29Speaker 1: learned in scouting. The smartest players aren't necessarily 4.0 GPA guys, right?
- 10:36Speaker 1: Having a high football IQ, having a high basketball IQ.
- 10:41Speaker 1: I remember my family was big Cal athletics fans. Loved
- 10:45Speaker 1: Cal football and Cal basketball. And my dad loved the
- 10:48Speaker 1: Jason Kidd basketball teams with Lamar Murray in the early 90s.
- 10:53Speaker 1: They were really good. And obviously, Jason Kidd was like,
- 10:56Speaker 1: should never have been a Cal. I'm not quite sure
- 10:57Speaker 1: how he ended up there. Might have been a Mercedes involved.
- 11:00Speaker 1: But there were stories that, like, you know, took him, like,
- 11:03Speaker 1: a bunch of times to get the minimum SAT so
- 11:06Speaker 1: he could qualify to get in the Cal. Now, in fairness,
- 11:08Speaker 1: your boy had to take the SAT a couple times, too.
- 11:10Speaker 1: I'm not a standardized test taker either, Jason. But you
- 11:13Speaker 1: know what? It's like, yeah, I don't know how smart
- 11:15Speaker 1: he was in the classroom taking a test, but Jason
- 11:18Speaker 1: Kidd's one of the smartest basketball players in the history
- 11:21Speaker 1: of the sport. So having a high football IQ is
- 11:25Speaker 1: just knowing basic situations. There are some complicated rules that
- 11:30Speaker 1: happen every once in a while that we all just
- 11:33Speaker 1: agree upon. Like, I'm not sure any of us knew that.
- 11:36Speaker 1: And it doesn't feel like anyone's dumb. It's like, I
- 11:38Speaker 1: don't know. I've been watching football 30 years. I've never
- 11:40Speaker 1: seen that called. Never seen that happen. Like back in
- 11:43Speaker 1: the day when I was in high school and the
- 11:44Speaker 1: tuck rule happened, everyone's like, what the fuck is that? Right?
- 11:48Speaker 1: But there are situations like this, like, hey, The clock's ticking.
- 11:52Speaker 1: There's a defender right in front of you. He's not open.
- 11:56Speaker 1: If you just hit the ground, they're going to be
- 11:58Speaker 1: forced to use another timeout. Instead, he just throws it
- 12:01Speaker 1: and the ball hits. I am out. I mean running
- 12:06Speaker 1: for the hills out. Denver's 4-2. They're clearly going to
- 12:10Speaker 1: win a lot of games. I don't want to say
- 12:13Speaker 1: a lot, like 10, 11, 12 range. 12 feels strong
- 12:17Speaker 1: the way he's playing. This guy, and I understand Seattle's
- 12:20Speaker 1: got a good defense, but it's the same stuff every week.
- 12:25Speaker 1: I mean, if he was like a third-round pick, you'd
- 12:30Speaker 1: be like, do you got to bench this player? At
- 12:32Speaker 1: one point in time in the second half, it's like
- 12:34Speaker 1: they cannot move the ball. I mean, every drive. Let
- 12:38Speaker 1: me read you their second-half possessions. They're up 14-13. And
- 12:42Speaker 1: let me give some flowers. Their first drive of the game,
- 12:46Speaker 1: I guess it was the second drive of the game
- 12:47Speaker 1: because they went three and out. The game started, three plays,
- 12:51Speaker 1: two yards, punt. I think it's the best drive he's
- 12:54Speaker 1: ever had in a regular season. 16 plays, 74 yards, 839.
- 13:00Speaker 1: They got a couple third downs. They got a fourth down.
- 13:02Speaker 1: It was a clinic. I'm like, God, he looks good.
- 13:06Speaker 1: And then the game went on, and it was a
- 13:07Speaker 1: lot of this. Punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt. They
- 13:14Speaker 1: punted every possession in the second half. Three plays, three plays,
- 13:18Speaker 1: five plays, three plays, three plays, four plays. He's unplayable. Like,
- 13:24Speaker 1: I mean, it's Sean Payton's play calling. I don't know
- 13:29Speaker 1: what's going on. But, like, we can be critical of Sam,
- 13:32Speaker 1: made some disastrous decisions, but you can't watch that game
- 13:37Speaker 1: and go, one guy's playing quarterback, and I don't think
- 13:40Speaker 1: the other guy even knows what he's doing. Has he
- 13:42Speaker 1: lost his confidence? I don't know. I watched him last
- 13:44Speaker 1: year kind of look like this too. I think we
- 13:47Speaker 1: have to come to an agreement. Clearly, Denver, they have
- 13:49Speaker 1: a really good offensive line. If you have a good offense,
- 13:53Speaker 1: you can win a Super Bowl with their defense, especially
- 13:56Speaker 1: when they get some of their guys back. Sertan, Hufanga,
- 13:58Speaker 1: all those guys. But what that is playing quarterback, and
- 14:03Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you're playing a good defense. You still
- 14:05Speaker 1: can get a couple first downs. You still can complete
- 14:07Speaker 1: a pass. He just stands there. But to me, what
- 14:10Speaker 1: did it were those two plays at the end of
- 14:12Speaker 1: the game. When he ran out of bounds... And then
- 14:15Speaker 1: when he threw the ball in that situation when they
- 14:19Speaker 1: had a timeout. And I understand the worst play from
- 14:22Speaker 1: then on out came from Darnold. But I can never,
- 14:25Speaker 1: like how we can never unsee Dan Quinn and Jaden Daniels,
- 14:29Speaker 1: I can never unsee that from Bo Nix. I think
- 14:31Speaker 1: he's a low football IQ player. And that was, I
- 14:36Speaker 1: can't even imagine what Sean Payton, who had 15 plus
- 14:40Speaker 1: years of of a guy you would say is one
- 14:43Speaker 1: of the highest football IQ players of all time in
- 14:45Speaker 1: Drew Brees. who is basically having, obviously, a Hall of
- 14:49Speaker 1: Fame player, but a coach on the field with his
- 14:52Speaker 1: mind to go to this. So I'm going to absolve
- 14:56Speaker 1: Davis Webb got absolutely obliterated. Everyone took a giant dump
- 15:02Speaker 1: on the guy's career. Maybe it wasn't his fault. Because
- 15:05Speaker 1: I don't think Bill Walsh or Vince Lombardi in their
- 15:08Speaker 1: prime could do much with that. That was really, really bad.
- 15:12Speaker 1: And I get it, it's Thursday night, you're rushing in,
- 15:14Speaker 1: but at home, in a situation where you're up 14-13,
- 15:18Speaker 1: or excuse me, 14-3, coming out of half, like, bro,
- 15:21Speaker 1: you get like one more touchdown drive, the game is over.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Not only did they not get touchdown drive, they didn't
- 15:26Speaker 1: even sniff like midfield. They gained nine yards, four yards,
- 15:31Speaker 1: three yards. 18 yards, negative 10 yards, two yards. I mean,
- 15:35Speaker 1: you're talking like a total of like 25, 30 yards.
- 15:40Speaker 1: And honestly, it looked worse. It's not like they got
- 15:44Speaker 1: a bunch of scrubs playing over there. So I think
- 15:48Speaker 1: big picture, the Broncos have a major, major quarterback problem, major.
- 15:52Speaker 1: And I think Seattle has an offensive problem if they
- 15:54Speaker 1: can't run the ball. They're not going to be a
- 15:57Speaker 1: successful offense if they don't have the run game going
- 16:00Speaker 1: because that is the coordinator's background. That's why they hired
- 16:04Speaker 1: him to replace Kubiak. Now, if they had a run game,
- 16:07Speaker 1: would we act like he's some dynamic guy? I got
- 16:09Speaker 1: no clue. It's obviously hard to call plays. But he's
- 16:12Speaker 1: got no shot, and Sam Darnold is not going to
- 16:14Speaker 1: be successful if they're throwing it 51 times a game.
- 16:18Speaker 1: And obviously, they're not even down. They're down 14-3 the
- 16:21Speaker 1: majority of the game, and they can't really rely. It's
- 16:24Speaker 1: not like they have to pass over and over and
- 16:26Speaker 1: over again because they've got no run game. So, rough
- 16:30Speaker 1: Thursday night game. For the large majority of it, at
- 16:32Speaker 1: one point, my wife looked over. She's like, Does this
- 16:36Speaker 1: game suck? I'm like, yeah, it's kind of the struggle
- 16:39Speaker 1: bus right now. Kind of the struggle bus. I tried
- 16:44Speaker 1: to give Seattle a little bit of the doubt based
- 16:45Speaker 1: on the game they just played. Bronco fans would be like, well,
- 16:48Speaker 1: we just were on the road. You play the Chargers,
- 16:50Speaker 1: who I think would be in the running for the
- 16:53Speaker 1: biggest joke of the league. So physically, I don't know
- 16:55Speaker 1: if that game was quite as taxing. And the other
- 16:57Speaker 1: thing is like your quarterback looked the same in that game.
- 16:58Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same thing every week. It's crazy.
- 17:02Speaker 1: You know, what's funny is Sean Payton despised Russell Wilson,
- 17:07Speaker 1: hated him. And I think some of it was the
- 17:10Speaker 1: perception he had when he got the job of this
- 17:13Speaker 1: kind of diva, superstar kind of quarterback and that stuff.
- 17:18Speaker 1: Like he already had a negative perception when he came in.
- 17:20Speaker 1: And obviously Russell by then was not a good player,
- 17:23Speaker 1: but how mean stuff he was. It's funny, like This
- 17:27Speaker 1: is his hand-picked guy. So you can't– you're not going
- 17:31Speaker 1: to just treat a guy like that that you kind
- 17:34Speaker 1: of need. But it has to be crossing his mind now.
- 17:39Speaker 1: This is not going to work. This is– it is
- 17:42Speaker 1: one thing to have a game. He's kind of been
- 17:44Speaker 1: playing like this his whole career. He just had some
- 17:47Speaker 1: magical moments in these fourth quarters, which we all saw
- 17:51Speaker 1: and were awesome. But I remember some of the games
- 17:54Speaker 1: like last year against the Raiders that never really flipped around.
- 17:57Speaker 1: And that's what it feels like is happening every single week.
- 18:01Speaker 1: It's crazy. It really is. And Sam obviously just turning
- 18:04Speaker 1: the ball over. I mean, he threw two picks last week.
- 18:08Speaker 1: I mean, it throws a lot of picks. I mean,
- 18:11Speaker 1: you can live with picks. You got to have touchdowns.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Right now, they don't have the touchdowns. It's why Seattle
- 18:16Speaker 1: is kind of licking their wounds. And they just got
- 18:21Speaker 1: to figure it out. I mean, this is... I still
- 18:23Speaker 1: think their defense is elite. I think their defense is
- 18:27Speaker 1: absolutely big time and can carry them to the playoffs.
- 18:31Speaker 1: But they're going to need Charbonnet and they're going to
- 18:32Speaker 1: need Jadarian Price back and fast. And their offensive line,
- 18:36Speaker 1: you know, I think in theory should be good, but
- 18:39Speaker 1: it's last two weeks. A couple of those surely are
- 18:44Speaker 1: on Sam holding the ball, but there are some where
- 18:45Speaker 1: he's just getting he's getting fucking peppered. I mean, at
- 18:48Speaker 1: one point in time tonight, they shot to him probably
- 18:51Speaker 1: like early in the third quarter. He's he's covered in blood.
- 18:55Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's got red hair. He's got
- 18:58Speaker 1: red arms. I mean, it's just he's just he looks
- 19:00Speaker 1: like a gladiator, you know, like fighting, you know, in
- 19:05Speaker 1: Rome back in the day, just covered in blood, just
- 19:08Speaker 1: getting hammered. This is not sustainable. So I would imagine Mike, John, Schneider,
- 19:17Speaker 1: they got to figure– like we got to do something
- 19:19Speaker 1: with the running back situation if these guys aren't ready
- 19:21Speaker 1: to come back because this is not possible to function
- 19:26Speaker 1: this way. And maybe Sean will just grab John Elway
- 19:30Speaker 1: before he leaves and see if he's got anything left
- 19:32Speaker 1: in the tank at like 65 years old because I
- 19:35Speaker 1: can't believe what I– honestly, I was at a loss
- 19:38Speaker 1: at the end Of the second half with Bo Nix,
- 19:41Speaker 1: those two decisions. I mean, this is, I would say
- 19:45Speaker 1: pretty basic, like football 101 type. stuff you learn in
- 19:50Speaker 1: like junior high, let alone for a guy that's like
- 19:52Speaker 1: a five-year college starter, three-year NFL starter. I mean, he's like, bro,
- 19:58Speaker 1: what is going through your head? And I think the
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- 21:50Speaker 1: You know, on this Fugazi Friday, it was announced today
- 21:53Speaker 1: that the 2014 playoff is 100% happening. I think it
- 21:57Speaker 1: was fair to say within the last couple years that
- 22:01Speaker 1: that has felt more than inevitable, right? It's like the
- 22:04Speaker 1: bowl games are dead. All these coaches are pushing for it.
- 22:08Speaker 1: The conferences are pushing for it. And at the end
- 22:11Speaker 1: of the day, ESPN is in bed with these conferences
- 22:14Speaker 1: and wants to make more money. And this notion, I've
- 22:18Speaker 1: heard this universally said by everyone that covers college football,
- 22:21Speaker 1: talks about college football, loves college football. This isn't needed.
- 22:25Speaker 1: This is unnecessary. I would say that happens a lot
- 22:29Speaker 1: of the times in sports. And you know what? A couple, five,
- 22:32Speaker 1: ten years later, it just becomes the norm. If I
- 22:36Speaker 1: would have told you 20 years ago, there was going
- 22:39Speaker 1: to be multiple extra teams in the wildcard round. Oh yeah,
- 22:43Speaker 1: there would be a Monday night football game during the playoffs.
- 22:47Speaker 1: You'd be like, that's insane. Like, no, it's been happening
- 22:50Speaker 1: now for years. It's kind of sweet. We talked about
- 22:53Speaker 1: this yesterday with Thursday night football. If you would have
- 22:55Speaker 1: told someone when I was in college that, hey, There
- 22:59Speaker 1: is going to be a Thursday night game every single
- 23:03Speaker 1: week of the year. Some teams are going to play
- 23:06Speaker 1: multiple times. You mean like coming off a bye and stuff? No,
- 23:09Speaker 1: like they're going to play Sunday and then they're going
- 23:11Speaker 1: to play again like three and a half days later.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Like that's going to happen. Every week. Forever. Oh, and
- 23:19Speaker 1: this service called Amazon. You mean the thing that delivers books? No, no, no, no.
- 23:25Speaker 1: They actually deliver packages. They're like the biggest company in
- 23:27Speaker 1: the world or one of them. they're going to stream it.
- 23:30Speaker 1: So you just press a button and you just watch it.
- 23:32Speaker 1: It gets streamed, not on cable or anything, not on
- 23:35Speaker 1: linear TV, just streamed. Things change. I was watching the
- 23:40Speaker 1: Saban documentary, which I think is just fantastic. And that
- 23:45Speaker 1: is content made for me. And in the third episode,
- 23:48Speaker 1: it's the buildup. Saban had turned around Alabama basically overnight.
- 23:53Speaker 1: He got, listen, it shows you, luck is involved in
- 23:56Speaker 1: everyone's life. He takes over Alabama's program and his first
- 24:01Speaker 1: recruiting class, I would imagine in the history of the
- 24:04Speaker 1: state of Alabama, it's got to be one of their
- 24:08Speaker 1: most fruitful years ever of players led by Julio Jones.
- 24:13Speaker 1: And he landed them all. And it completely changed the
- 24:16Speaker 1: trajectory of the tide, you know? So sometimes luck, and
- 24:22Speaker 1: it's no different when he got to LSU, there were
- 24:24Speaker 1: two recruits that wanted to know part of LSU in
- 24:27Speaker 1: Marcus Spears and Michael Clayton, and he convinced them to
- 24:30Speaker 1: come to LSU. And obviously they were huge pillars in
- 24:33Speaker 1: his turnaround there. Well, luck and things out of our control.
- 24:37Speaker 1: Play a huge role in all of our lives. And
- 24:40Speaker 1: I've really worked on this like... Complaining about things in
- 24:43Speaker 1: my life... That I have absolutely no control over. And
- 24:47Speaker 1: when I see all these people... That aren't... On governing
- 24:52Speaker 1: boards at schools... That aren't ESPN management... Complaining about... Guys...
- 24:58Speaker 1: It was clear this was inevitable a couple years ago.
- 25:02Speaker 1: They've been talking about this forever. This wasn't just some
- 25:06Speaker 1: pie-in-the-sky idea. This was something. There was so much money
- 25:10Speaker 1: on the line. These bulls are dead. But back to
- 25:13Speaker 1: the Saban documentary, the build-up in the third episode is
- 25:18Speaker 1: the rematch because they got good his second year, but
- 25:23Speaker 1: they played Tebow in Florida and lost in the SEC Championship.
- 25:28Speaker 1: And by the third year, same thing, both teams undefeated.
- 25:31Speaker 1: A combined 24-0. That happened literally last year. Ohio State
- 25:37Speaker 1: and Indiana. And do you know what happened when it
- 25:40Speaker 1: came down to the national championship? Indiana was the one seed,
- 25:45Speaker 1: Ohio State was the three seed. But that was the
- 25:48Speaker 1: equivalent not that long ago. Whoever lost that game, their
- 25:51Speaker 1: season was essentially over. And that's what Alabama did to
- 25:54Speaker 1: Tebow his senior year. Beat them, I think, 32. The
- 25:58Speaker 1: final score was 32-13 or 33 or 32-20. And they
- 26:02Speaker 1: were done. Because, and even Saban and Urban were talking
- 26:06Speaker 1: about this in the documentary, that basically the entire existence
- 26:10Speaker 1: of college football, most years, you could not afford a loss.
- 26:15Speaker 1: A loss derailed your entire season. And I see all
- 26:20Speaker 1: these people that hold on to the history of college football,
- 26:24Speaker 1: the importance of the regular season, I don't feel like
- 26:26Speaker 1: that's really changed at all. Honestly, if anything, we see
- 26:31Speaker 1: so many games that are terrible. I mean, unwatchable. I
- 26:38Speaker 1: got no issue with the 2014 playoff. Is it ideal?
- 26:42Speaker 1: Would I rather have 12? I know this. Two teams,
- 26:46Speaker 1: not enough. Four, I don't think enough either. 12, not enough.
- 26:50Speaker 1: you know, might be pushing it, but would I rather
- 26:52Speaker 1: have 24 as long as you do this? We need
- 26:56Speaker 1: to get in a room and all agree because the
- 26:59Speaker 1: number one thing I saw today, a bunch of people saying,
- 27:02Speaker 1: now no one is going to play anybody in the non-conference.
- 27:06Speaker 1: Shouldn't it be the opposite? Shouldn't we get to a
- 27:09Speaker 1: point where we corral all of our money and just
- 27:12Speaker 1: play each other? I don't know exactly how you do it.
- 27:16Speaker 1: It'd be hard with the strength of schedule because like
- 27:18Speaker 1: Ohio State would play, You know, like Georgia and Miami
- 27:22Speaker 1: every year. So that wouldn't be fair. But they're some
- 27:26Speaker 1: rotating thing like the NFL does. And we only play
- 27:29Speaker 1: each other. And the 2014 playoff is our playoff. And
- 27:33Speaker 1: then the group of six teams. How about they get
- 27:36Speaker 1: their own playoff? We already do that. I went to
- 27:38Speaker 1: Cal Poly. D1AA. You know what happens when you have
- 27:41Speaker 1: a decent season? You go to the playoffs. You know
- 27:44Speaker 1: who's not in that playoffs? Fresno State. USC. Washington State,
- 27:49Speaker 1: you just play other D1AA teams. And this notion that
- 27:54Speaker 1: there's going to be 24 teams, 19 at large, and
- 27:57Speaker 1: one non-Power 4 team. Like, what the fuck are we doing?
- 28:02Speaker 1: Why are we still placating to that? How about we
- 28:04Speaker 1: just have a separation of church and state here? So
- 28:07Speaker 1: my overall take is I'm not going to complain about
- 28:11Speaker 1: this because it was a 100% lock once people really
- 28:15Speaker 1: started saying, God, there's way too much money to not
- 28:17Speaker 1: do this. There's way too much unused real estate here.
- 28:25Speaker 1: The bowl games have been useless for years now. Once
- 28:29Speaker 1: they went from those Saban versus Urban, winner goes to
- 28:34Speaker 1: the national championship, bowl games still mattered then. Because only
- 28:36Speaker 1: two teams played for the Natty. It was just the
- 28:39Speaker 1: national championship game. The Rose Bowl mattered. The Sugar Bowl mattered.
- 28:43Speaker 1: The Peach Bowl mattered. Those no longer independent of the
- 28:47Speaker 1: playoffs mean a goddamn thing. You know why? Because players,
- 28:52Speaker 1: whether I'm going to the draft, I'm out. Or whether
- 28:56Speaker 1: I'm thinking about transferring, I'm out. So no one's participating
- 29:01Speaker 1: in these games. They have lost the luster. So you
- 29:04Speaker 1: now just work in the playoff games to the bowl
- 29:08Speaker 1: structure and work it that way. But to me, the
- 29:12Speaker 1: number one key for this to be successful is And
- 29:14Speaker 1: the number one key to still, I would say, hold
- 29:18Speaker 1: the regular season in high regard is to play each other.
- 29:23Speaker 1: No longer circumvent and then just play your conference games.
- 29:27Speaker 1: No longer do what Indiana's been doing. I mean, Nick
- 29:30Speaker 1: Saban played one big game and it was on a
- 29:33Speaker 1: neutral site. Then he played nobodies. Those days have to
- 29:36Speaker 1: be over. And if you tell me that they can
- 29:39Speaker 1: come to some regularity and all get on the same
- 29:42Speaker 1: page about that, I'm on board. And I'm not going
- 29:45Speaker 1: to complain about something that, like, what they were doing
- 29:50Speaker 1: currently with the bowl system. The bowl systems currently exist
- 29:54Speaker 1: for people to bet on. And you're betting on a
- 29:58Speaker 1: lot of times like wait seven of their starters opted
- 30:01Speaker 1: out remember it was a big deal years ago it's
- 30:03Speaker 1: like McCaffrey or Leonard Fournette now it's everybody and it's
- 30:06Speaker 1: not even weird I wouldn't play either this game's always
- 30:09Speaker 1: been an exhibition but now it's truly stupid so I
- 30:13Speaker 1: I I just do believe this everyone is gonna hammer
- 30:19Speaker 1: ESPN it's only about the cash well that's why do
- 30:22Speaker 1: you think Adam Silver just added the NBA Cup and
- 30:28Speaker 1: the play-in games. Why do you think baseball added wildcard games?
- 30:32Speaker 1: Why do you think the NFL added the wildcard Monday
- 30:35Speaker 1: night football? It's all about the money always. This is
- 30:37Speaker 1: big business. And you could argue that college football, more
- 30:41Speaker 1: than the professional leagues, I know people in finance who
- 30:45Speaker 1: have tried to create business plans for them and work
- 30:49Speaker 1: with the TV networks and the universities think it's the
- 30:53Speaker 1: most undervalued business in America based on their earning potential.
- 30:59Speaker 1: For as big as it's become in these rosters, a
- 31:03Speaker 1: lot of people view it as an untapped future, like
- 31:08Speaker 1: an untapped oil well. There's a lot to be desired,
- 31:12Speaker 1: even despite its current success, which is the number two
- 31:15Speaker 1: sport in America. I mean, there are probably going to
- 31:18Speaker 1: be 10 plus million people watch Ohio State at Indiana.
- 31:22Speaker 1: It's going to be bigger than any regular season or
- 31:25Speaker 1: probably playoff game, not including like the Dodgers, Knicks or
- 31:28Speaker 1: Lakers or Yankees. But when you have all this differing
- 31:34Speaker 1: of opinions, people pulling in different direction, everyone with different agendas,
- 31:40Speaker 1: that's what scares me. Overall, adding 24 teams, like we're
- 31:43Speaker 1: going to watch a bowl game the second week of December,
- 31:47Speaker 1: no matter what. Would you rather have it be Oklahoma against,
- 31:52Speaker 1: I don't know, pick, uh, or for a playoff spot,
- 31:57Speaker 1: or would you rather have it be the Sony TV Bowl?
- 32:03Speaker 1: And that's where we've been at for a while, for
- 32:05Speaker 1: years now. So everyone's complaining about it. I just think
- 32:10Speaker 1: the key is for the structure around it moving forward.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Are there going to be some bad games? Of course.
- 32:17Speaker 1: You ever watched a 1-8 matchup in the NBA playoffs?
- 32:20Speaker 1: It's unwatchable. Have you ever watched some of the first
- 32:23Speaker 1: game usually that was on NFL Network forever in the playoffs?
- 32:26Speaker 1: It's usually pretty bad. Not every game's great. Not everything
- 32:31Speaker 1: is Ohio State-Indiana in the conference championship game last year,
- 32:35Speaker 1: which all reports are conference championships games are going to
- 32:37Speaker 1: be dead. What I would do, you know, I don't
- 32:42Speaker 1: even know if they're going to need this, but there's
- 32:43Speaker 1: going to be some subjectivity because you're getting 19 at-large bids.
- 32:48Speaker 1: Why don't you just have some play-in spots for the
- 32:50Speaker 1: at-large bids? And conference championship week basically becomes two teams
- 32:56Speaker 1: on the fringe playing for a spot. I said that
- 32:59Speaker 1: last year because if you look at this upcoming year,
- 33:02Speaker 1: if you're undefeated, if you're Georgia, if you're Ohio State
- 33:06Speaker 1: or Indiana and you haven't lost a conference game going
- 33:09Speaker 1: into that, what is the... prerogative to play that game
- 33:14Speaker 1: risk of injury risk of just wearing terror on your
- 33:17Speaker 1: guy's body when the other teams that might be a
- 33:20Speaker 1: five or six seed that get to skip that week
- 33:23Speaker 1: now you go well you win that game you get
- 33:25Speaker 1: a bite well what if you don't then all of
- 33:27Speaker 1: a sudden you got to play a team who just
- 33:30Speaker 1: rested and has a massive rest advantage we talk about
- 33:33Speaker 1: it all the time in the nfl so i i
- 33:36Speaker 1: think this fugazi the the reaction by everybody's like guys
- 33:40Speaker 1: this was a lock to happen And I just do
- 33:43Speaker 1: not understand why people complain constantly. This is all about money. Yeah,
- 33:48Speaker 1: no shit. I mean, where have you been? It's honestly
- 33:53Speaker 1: crazy to look back how they used to do things.
- 33:56Speaker 1: It shows you how ass backwards everything was. It really is.
- 34:01Speaker 1: And sometimes that Saban documentary, you see Jimmy Sexton, like
- 34:04Speaker 1: the advantage he has negotiating with academia. There's a reason
- 34:09Speaker 1: all his guys have 50, 60, $ 70 million buyouts. It's
- 34:12Speaker 1: not a fair fight. It wouldn't be like that, and
- 34:15Speaker 1: it's not like that when Jimmy's negotiating with the NFL teams. Why?
- 34:18Speaker 1: Because they're in the business of these negotiations. So I
- 34:22Speaker 1: just think the overreaction to some of this stuff is
- 34:24Speaker 1: just hilarious. A couple big stories today before we dive
- 34:29Speaker 1: into some games. Jalen Hurts had blood clots, which it's
- 34:34Speaker 1: pretty nuts to think that he played in that game
- 34:37Speaker 1: with blood clots. Now, I would imagine it complicated it
- 34:41Speaker 1: a little bit that they were overseas when this injury
- 34:44Speaker 1: popped up. I don't think anyone put him out there knowing, well,
- 34:48Speaker 1: you got blood clots, just play through it. But looking back,
- 34:51Speaker 1: you know, it just... We have seen guys, I mean,
- 34:56Speaker 1: derail their career, ruin their career, right? I mean, guys
- 35:00Speaker 1: miss an entire season. You have no clue if he's
- 35:03Speaker 1: coming back this year, if he's out for the year,
- 35:06Speaker 1: if he's ever able to play through it. Just a
- 35:09Speaker 1: lot of unknown. It's clearly a really scary thing. Pretty
- 35:13Speaker 1: crazy looking back at that Jacksonville game, knowing that he
- 35:16Speaker 1: played a game with blood clots, which I guess... He
- 35:19Speaker 1: wouldn't be the first player who's probably played with something
- 35:23Speaker 1: not knowing what it was and then finding out after
- 35:25Speaker 1: the fact. But I saw Herbstreet tell a story today.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Adam Schefter retweeted it that it happened to him and
- 35:31Speaker 1: he got very lucky that the blood clot passed through
- 35:33Speaker 1: his heart. Typically where people have heart attacks and die.
- 35:36Speaker 1: And he's taking blood thinners. I don't know how long
- 35:41Speaker 1: ago that was, but he said he's been on blood
- 35:42Speaker 1: thinners ever since and he'll do them until the day
- 35:44Speaker 1: he dies. So pretty big. moment for the Eagles, right?
- 35:49Speaker 1: I mean, you have now, one, you hope the guy, obviously,
- 35:53Speaker 1: from a health standpoint, he's okay. But I think you
- 35:56Speaker 1: have to look at it realistically and go, there's no
- 35:58Speaker 1: guarantee that he ever plays a game again this season. And,
- 36:02Speaker 1: you know, you could be wrong with Tanner McKee and
- 36:05Speaker 1: a bunch of random guys. I mean, they have a
- 36:07Speaker 1: million injuries. They've lost like 17 running backs. They have
- 36:11Speaker 1: all these new offensive linemen. There was a quote today
- 36:14Speaker 1: by Landon Dickerson, if he viewed himself as a long-term guard.
- 36:19Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, you got to, I don't know,
- 36:21Speaker 1: next time Howie and Nick Sirianni have a joint press
- 36:25Speaker 1: conference together, but that'd be a good question for them.
- 36:27Speaker 1: It's like, Jesus, some weird vibes here. So your quarterback's
- 36:30Speaker 1: got blood clots. Your star right tackle, Hall of Famer, retires.
- 36:34Speaker 1: You trade your guard. He's still in the concussion protocol
- 36:38Speaker 1: for the Ravens. You have a million other injuries of
- 36:40Speaker 1: star high-end players on offense. Just a lot of weird, bizarre,
- 36:45Speaker 1: you know, season from hell, disastrous season. We thought it
- 36:50Speaker 1: was last year. It feels like it's trending a little
- 36:52Speaker 1: bit more that way right now. Lamar, who I just
- 36:55Speaker 1: assumed was going to battle back because there were some reports,
- 36:58Speaker 1: didn't practice again. You know, watching some of their players talk,
- 37:01Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like he's a lock to play this week,
- 37:04Speaker 1: which if he did play and was fully healthy, I
- 37:06Speaker 1: was all in on the Ravens, might have to pivot.
- 37:08Speaker 1: We can talk about that in a second. The other
- 37:10Speaker 1: story that kind of went viral today is like Caleb Williams,
- 37:13Speaker 1: who's clearly back and going to play this week, is
- 37:15Speaker 1: getting peppered about this hamstring injury. And you could tell
- 37:19Speaker 1: he's pretty annoyed today. I will defend him here. Literally,
- 37:24Speaker 1: every single person on the internet calls you a pussy.
- 37:29Speaker 1: When your entire career, you've proven to be a guy
- 37:32Speaker 1: that doesn't miss games, has gotten sacked a million times
- 37:36Speaker 1: at USC and then early on in your NFL career,
- 37:39Speaker 1: who last year played in games in frigid conditions, which
- 37:43Speaker 1: I think exposes weak-minded people. I would fall under that category.
- 37:48Speaker 1: It was 60 degrees today. I had sweatpants, a beanie.
- 37:51Speaker 1: I put Jack in a blanket. I'm just walking down
- 37:53Speaker 1: to the grass, take the dog out. So I don't
- 37:56Speaker 1: do the cold. Most people don't. Remember, we saw Tua
- 37:59Speaker 1: play in the cold. That went about as well as
- 38:01Speaker 1: a turd in a punch bowl. And he's proven to
- 38:05Speaker 1: be tough. Now, could he have overreacted a little bit?
- 38:10Speaker 1: I don't know. I said it at the time. If
- 38:13Speaker 1: you've never played in the NFL, other NFL players, they
- 38:16Speaker 1: can chime in on that. I think there are a
- 38:18Speaker 1: lot of people in their mom's basement on social media.
- 38:21Speaker 1: A lot of media members thinking it. Players want to
- 38:24Speaker 1: say that, no issues. But to me, when it comes
- 38:28Speaker 1: to Caleb's toughness, I think he's kind of established that.
- 38:30Speaker 1: And I would also get, if every single person's calling
- 38:33Speaker 1: you a puss, and you're like, haven't I proven my
- 38:37Speaker 1: worth here? Like, haven't I proven my toughness? Like, yeah,
- 38:41Speaker 1: he's annoyed. He didn't take it well. Don't blame him.
- 38:46Speaker 1: And the other thing is, it's not like he missed
- 38:49Speaker 1: one game. He missed three. You missed three games, which
- 38:54Speaker 1: could have derailed their season. For as bad as Bajent
- 38:58Speaker 1: played last week, they didn't win two games. So if
- 39:01Speaker 1: you go two and three with your backup quarterback, it
- 39:04Speaker 1: kind of saves your season in a situation like that.
- 39:07Speaker 1: So I don't have as big of an issue with
- 39:11Speaker 1: his reaction of like, basically, fuck you guys. Christian Parker
- 39:16Speaker 1: is moving up to the booth. Never a great sign.
- 39:19Speaker 1: I saw... Who was it? Was it... Oh, it was Tomlin.
- 39:24Speaker 1: Says anytime you have a players-only meeting, you're cooked. Yeah,
- 39:27Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably not a great sign. I... I'd
- 39:30Speaker 1: go to me there's probably a lot of sneaky players
- 39:33Speaker 1: only meetings maybe not like in the main conference room
- 39:38Speaker 1: where you get the whole players like all the players
- 39:40Speaker 1: say every guy on the roster show up no coaches
- 39:43Speaker 1: yeah it's not an ideal sign but I do think
- 39:45Speaker 1: you're doing players meetings as position groups as as um
- 39:49Speaker 1: Offensive defense all the time. I think it's a way
- 39:53Speaker 1: bigger red flag. Like, yeah, middle of October. We're so
- 39:56Speaker 1: bad on defense, we need you to change spots. And
- 40:00Speaker 1: then you bring in Mike Pettin. Cowboys are grasping at straws.
- 40:18Speaker 1: I did want to start with some predictions brought to
- 40:22Speaker 1: you by my friends at Polymarket. I saw a good
- 40:25Speaker 1: stat that a team coming off an international game, playing
- 40:30Speaker 1: a team off a bye, has happened four times. The
- 40:35Speaker 1: team off the bye is 4-0. I don't like the
- 40:39Speaker 1: Panthers this week. I love them. This goes back to
- 40:42Speaker 1: the Lander Dickerson comments. Obviously, Jalen Hurts' blood clot. all
- 40:46Speaker 1: the moving parts on their offensive line, all the injuries
- 40:49Speaker 1: they have on offense. I mean, they're down to like,
- 40:52Speaker 1: they're pulling running backs like out of the UFL. They're
- 40:56Speaker 1: completely desperate. I honestly don't really know what the Eagles do.
- 41:00Speaker 1: And this, you get to a point where you have
- 41:02Speaker 1: so many injuries, there isn't much you can do. And
- 41:06Speaker 1: you're playing the Panthers off a bye after all this
- 41:09Speaker 1: weird shit. You know, you're coming home, which in theory
- 41:13Speaker 1: should be good, but it actually to me can get weird.
- 41:16Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of games in that building.
- 41:19Speaker 1: We've all watched a lot of games on television for
- 41:22Speaker 1: the Eagles playing at home. And they get edgy. They
- 41:26Speaker 1: get angry. They will boo if shit goes bad. Now,
- 41:30Speaker 1: this is the first real game. You know, we started
- 41:32Speaker 1: the game at the end of the season. But, like,
- 41:34Speaker 1: Tanner McKee's thrown into the fire. And honestly, if it
- 41:37Speaker 1: wouldn't have been for Jalen getting flagged for the– for
- 41:43Speaker 1: the potential concussion a couple weeks ago against the Bears
- 41:47Speaker 1: when he had to leave and then Dalton comes in
- 41:49Speaker 1: and throws the pick. I do wonder if Dalton gets
- 41:52Speaker 1: cut in that situation because remember they wanted to leave
- 41:56Speaker 1: Lane Johnson on the roster and they kind of got
- 41:58Speaker 1: rid of his roster spot. Is Andy Dalton in a
- 42:01Speaker 1: different world if Jalen Hurts doesn't get hit like that
- 42:05Speaker 1: and just runs out of bounds? Is he actually the
- 42:08Speaker 1: guy starting a quarterback? Did they actually foresee... Because Jalen,
- 42:12Speaker 1: one thing he's proven is to be a pretty durable player.
- 42:15Speaker 1: Did they think that this was their best option two
- 42:20Speaker 1: and a half weeks ago? Or did that one interception
- 42:23Speaker 1: just be like, fuck it, what are we even doing here?
- 42:26Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of weird stuff going
- 42:28Speaker 1: on here. I love Carolina. I mean, honestly, I couldn't
- 42:34Speaker 1: love them anymore. That line is flying up the charts.
- 42:38Speaker 1: It's now at three and a half. I'm taking them
- 42:41Speaker 1: on Pauley Market to cover. $ 100 pays $ 193. I do
- 42:45Speaker 1: think there's a chance that Carolina wins this game by
- 42:49Speaker 1: double digits. And, you know, the Eagles have really, really
- 42:52Speaker 1: struggled with Hurts. What's it going to look like with
- 42:56Speaker 1: a backup quarterback? With a bunch of injuries at wide receiver.
- 43:00Speaker 1: With no decent running backs in sight. With offensive linemen
- 43:04Speaker 1: who just started playing together literally last week. You know,
- 43:07Speaker 1: it's very dependent. They would need a Herculean effort out
- 43:11Speaker 1: of Fangio in the defense. They would need like a
- 43:14Speaker 1: six-sack day out of Jalen Carter. And I don't know, man.
- 43:19Speaker 1: I see this thing going really, really bad. The other game.
- 43:24Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect, and I said this,
- 43:26Speaker 1: his accomplishment making the team as an undrafted free agent
- 43:29Speaker 1: is pretty incredible. Jalen Daniels winning the backup job is just–
- 43:36Speaker 1: That's as good of an accomplishment at a training camp
- 43:38Speaker 1: that can be had. Because a lot of undrafted free
- 43:40Speaker 1: agents make teams. That's not abnormal. But to make it
- 43:44Speaker 1: as a quarterback and them to give you the nod
- 43:47Speaker 1: as the number two quarterback is borderline unprecedented. I'd have
- 43:52Speaker 1: to chat GPT it, but I would imagine in the
- 43:54Speaker 1: internet era, maybe it happened more back in the day.
- 43:58Speaker 1: There can't be many times that has happened. I remember,
- 44:01Speaker 1: was it the Bills game? Jeff Toole, the Washington State guy,
- 44:05Speaker 1: they had a bunch of injuries started in the game.
- 44:07Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was an undrafted free agent, though
- 44:09Speaker 1: he might have been a seventh rounder. But he was
- 44:13Speaker 1: solid last week. Relative to the standard of an undrafted
- 44:17Speaker 1: free agent on a short week, you could say he
- 44:19Speaker 1: was really good. Because how low the expectations were. I
- 44:23Speaker 1: do think there's a little bit of a different animal
- 44:25Speaker 1: against the Steelers. I would also kind of expect this
- 44:28Speaker 1: to be a Steelers home game. Now, the Steelers are
- 44:30Speaker 1: missing a million wide receivers. Skronick's out. Pittman's out. They're
- 44:37Speaker 1: missing another guy, too. They're missing a bunch of wide receivers,
- 44:42Speaker 1: which is kind of what Rodgers was used to last year.
- 44:45Speaker 1: It's like DK Metcalf, the tight ends, and Jalen Warren.
- 44:48Speaker 1: My thing is less about their offense. I think they'll
- 44:51Speaker 1: just figure it out and manipulate enough points. Rodgers is
- 44:53Speaker 1: actually playing pretty well, and Jalen Warren's going nuts. It's
- 44:56Speaker 1: more about an undrafted free agent, like back-to-back weeks. And
- 45:01Speaker 1: I know he gets a little extra rest because they
- 45:03Speaker 1: played on Thursday last week. But is he going to
- 45:06Speaker 1: string together good games? Because if he does, I'm willing
- 45:10Speaker 1: to go down. I'm taking the Steelers here, minus 2.5.
- 45:13Speaker 1: Yes pays, Hunter pays 183. I just assumed, I don't
- 45:20Speaker 1: know why I did this. Maybe it's because I think
- 45:22Speaker 1: Schefter said he's trending to play. And then you look,
- 45:26Speaker 1: you're like, well, I don't know if Lamar's going to play.
- 45:28Speaker 1: And then Derrick Henry's talking today, like, we're prepared to
- 45:30Speaker 1: play with Snoop Huntley. Sitting here right now on Thursday afternoon,
- 45:34Speaker 1: I'm assuming Huntley's going to play. And then I saw
- 45:37Speaker 1: this clip of Marlon Humphrey talking in his locker. And
- 45:40Speaker 1: he's like, to be honest with you, weird shit just
- 45:42Speaker 1: happens in Cleveland. Like, we expect this game to be weird.
- 45:47Speaker 1: And I saw some stats on Deshaun Watson earlier. And
- 45:52Speaker 1: I'm not trying to, I've disrespected PFF a lot, but
- 45:55Speaker 1: PFF is just crushing him. The eye test last week
- 45:58Speaker 1: definitely passed it. And if you go back to the
- 46:00Speaker 1: game they won against the Steelers, he was trying to
- 46:03Speaker 1: give them the game away. So he did show some
- 46:06Speaker 1: signs of life early in the season. I do think
- 46:08Speaker 1: he's resorting back to what we all assumed he was,
- 46:11Speaker 1: not a good player anymore. So it makes me a
- 46:16Speaker 1: little nervous, but I do think what Marlon Humphrey said
- 46:19Speaker 1: is just so true. Games get weird. They're especially divisional games. Now,
- 46:24Speaker 1: if Lamar played, I would have liked the Ravens by
- 46:27Speaker 1: like 14, 20 points. I would have liked it huge.
- 46:31Speaker 1: Even if they were a pretty big favorite on the road,
- 46:34Speaker 1: I would have been comfortable with it. But I don't
- 46:36Speaker 1: know if I'm comfortable with the Huntley backup quarterback on
- 46:40Speaker 1: the road, everyone banging the side. I expect weirdness. And
- 46:44Speaker 1: if you're going to give me three and a half,
- 46:46Speaker 1: like I'll take the Browns. 100 pays 193. Uh, You know,
- 46:51Speaker 1: I typically do the four box. This is a pretty
- 46:55Speaker 1: bad week. I think you could make the argument that
- 46:58Speaker 1: it's like, what would you even create? Houston plays Jacksonville
- 47:02Speaker 1: in London, which is a pretty big game for Houston.
- 47:04Speaker 1: And Jacksonville's kind of, you know, very, very fortunate to
- 47:08Speaker 1: be 4-1 right now. Right? I mean, that game was
- 47:12Speaker 1: lost until Sirianni's like, yeah, kick it to them. I
- 47:16Speaker 1: kind of like Houston in that spot. But then this
- 47:18Speaker 1: is our morning slate. Chicago at Atlanta, which it looks
- 47:22Speaker 1: like Penix is going to play, but I could see
- 47:25Speaker 1: him not last and a half. Baltimore at Cleveland. Titans
- 47:29Speaker 1: at Indy. New York at New England. New Orleans at
- 47:33Speaker 1: New York. Panthers at Philly and Pittsburgh at Tampa, which
- 47:37Speaker 1: we talked about. Those are our games. Now, some of
- 47:44Speaker 1: these games are going to be extremely entertaining. I will
- 47:47Speaker 1: be excited to watch once they're on. But we all
- 47:49Speaker 1: have to agree on paper. It's like, the Jets going
- 47:53Speaker 1: to New England, they're getting like seven and a half points.
- 47:56Speaker 1: Tennessee at Indy. Indianapolis is not very good. They're favored
- 48:00Speaker 1: by a touchdown. This is bad. And this is what
- 48:07Speaker 1: we talked about, about Thursday night thriving, the bye weeks.
- 48:11Speaker 1: You get a stretch here and the London game. There
- 48:14Speaker 1: aren't that many good options. Like I would be hard pressed. Chicago,
- 48:18Speaker 1: Atlanta for sure. Carolina at Philly. Would I just go,
- 48:25Speaker 1: you know, if Huntley plays, it's like, I don't know,
- 48:28Speaker 1: New York at New England? New Orleans at New York?
- 48:35Speaker 1: This is rough. This is rough. Even the afternoon. Cardinals
- 48:40Speaker 1: at the Rams. They're almost a two-touchdown underdog. The Chargers
- 48:45Speaker 1: playing Kansas City. The Chiefs are favored by eight and
- 48:48Speaker 1: a half points. Buffalo at Vegas, which is not terrible
- 48:54Speaker 1: in theory, unless the Vegas team we just saw last
- 48:57Speaker 1: week is more who they were than the team that
- 49:00Speaker 1: we saw the previous week against Kansas City. I'm hoping
- 49:03Speaker 1: they're competitive because that has a chance if Vegas is
- 49:06Speaker 1: competitive to probably be one of the better games, not
- 49:08Speaker 1: the best game of the day. So even, you know,
- 49:12Speaker 1: Dallas Green Bay is a great brand game, but I mean,
- 49:16Speaker 1: those teams are pretty flawed and the Niners are playing
- 49:19Speaker 1: the Commanders. I Monday Night Football. So listen, I love
- 49:22Speaker 1: football as much as the next guy. But this is
- 49:24Speaker 1: a pretty rough slate here. You could argue the best
- 49:28Speaker 1: game of the weekend is Ohio State at Indiana. Like
- 49:32Speaker 1: that is, I understand he went 16-0, and Indiana is
- 49:37Speaker 1: viewed as a top-notch, powerhouse now and it's incredible what
- 49:43Speaker 1: he's what he's done I mean it's it's unheard of
- 49:46Speaker 1: he literally showed up took the worst program of all
- 49:49Speaker 1: time two years later won a national championship Now, it's
- 49:52Speaker 1: less unheard of in the day of NIL and when
- 49:54Speaker 1: you got Cuban and Rich Guy stroking your checks. This
- 49:58Speaker 1: wouldn't have been possible 10 years ago. But regardless, you
- 50:01Speaker 1: can only deal with the rules and the stipulations that
- 50:05Speaker 1: are at hand. And he handled it really, really well.
- 50:08Speaker 1: Crushed it. I mean, a lot of people could have
- 50:10Speaker 1: had Fernando Mendoza. Now, in fairness, it's not like Fernando
- 50:14Speaker 1: Mendoza was a gem. He literally chose between Georgia and Indiana.
- 50:18Speaker 1: So it's like, I mean, good teams wanted him too.
- 50:21Speaker 1: But if you beat Ohio State back-to-back years, that might
- 50:30Speaker 1: be as impressive of going 16-0. Now, I get it.
- 50:32Speaker 1: You're playing them at home. Jeremiah Smith right now, 48 catches,
- 50:37Speaker 1: 916 yards, and 11 touchdowns. I cannot get over how
- 50:43Speaker 1: much respect I have for this guy. In this NIL era,
- 50:48Speaker 1: he is making so much money. He was basically minted
- 50:52Speaker 1: at the end of last season. Like, yeah, this guy's
- 50:54Speaker 1: a top five lock. We've seen guys in that situation
- 50:58Speaker 1: before be very uncomfortable because you can't really play football.
- 51:02Speaker 1: You either play it like kind of half ass and
- 51:04Speaker 1: it shows or you just play football. And not only
- 51:08Speaker 1: because like, you know, Leonard Fournette and Clowney, remember, they're
- 51:13Speaker 1: just like, I don't, I play not to get hurt.
- 51:17Speaker 1: Maybe Leonard Fournette did it. Maybe I'm thinking about someone else.
- 51:20Speaker 1: But it's just a weird predicament to be in, right?
- 51:24Speaker 1: And this guy is playing. And I said this weeks
- 51:27Speaker 1: ago when he was going nuts in like back-to-back weeks
- 51:31Speaker 1: going for like 500 yards. Like he's trying to earn
- 51:35Speaker 1: his roster spot. Like he's trying to prove himself. Now
- 51:39Speaker 1: people push back and go, well, John, he's never won
- 51:41Speaker 1: the Bolitnikoff, he's never won the Heisman. It's like, okay.
- 51:44Speaker 1: I mean, he's already won a national championship. He's clearly
- 51:47Speaker 1: viewed as one of the best non-quarterbacks in the country.
- 51:51Speaker 1: And by this point, he's viewed as the best player
- 51:52Speaker 1: in the country. I just don't know how they slow
- 51:55Speaker 1: him down. And even I was watching Cignetti talk about
- 51:58Speaker 1: it this week. He's like, yeah, just ultimate freak. And
- 52:03Speaker 1: the one thing Indiana's really hung their hat on is
- 52:06Speaker 1: they played in these tight games over the last couple years.
- 52:08Speaker 1: They just did it at Nebraska, and they pull them out.
- 52:12Speaker 1: And if you do that back-to-back years against Ohio State
- 52:15Speaker 1: who looks really, really good and has a guy that
- 52:18Speaker 1: is basically unstoppable, and this goes back to the Saban
- 52:22Speaker 1: thing you watch when they really got going. It's like
- 52:24Speaker 1: Saban just say, hey, great, throw it to Julio. John
- 52:27Speaker 1: Parker Wilson, throw it to Julio. Like that was their
- 52:29Speaker 1: offense sometimes. Just in the passing game, throw it to Julio.
- 52:34Speaker 1: And if I'm Arthur Smith, like, yeah, let's throw it
- 52:36Speaker 1: to four. Yeah, let's run another play for Jeremiah. Yeah,
- 52:41Speaker 1: look for four. It's pretty obvious because no one can
- 52:45Speaker 1: stop him. And Indiana last year had Pawns, who was
- 52:50Speaker 1: just an elite college player. We'll see how his NFL
- 52:52Speaker 1: career turns out. But they're clearly not as dominant on defense.
- 52:58Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people are like, well,
- 53:00Speaker 1: Fernando to Hoover. It's like, I watched their offense. Their
- 53:02Speaker 1: passing game is going to be fine. Their offense is
- 53:05Speaker 1: not going to be the thing that holds Indiana back
- 53:08Speaker 1: when the dust settles. It's when you play the best teams,
- 53:11Speaker 1: can you slow them down? I mean, I watched them
- 53:13Speaker 1: play Northwestern a couple weeks ago, and it was hard. So,
- 53:19Speaker 1: it's just in this transfer portal era, you know, you're
- 53:22Speaker 1: just going to miss on some guys. Or the guys
- 53:24Speaker 1: that you paid aren't going to be as good as
- 53:25Speaker 1: you thought. And this game is, can you imagine telling
- 53:30Speaker 1: someone like five years ago, yeah, one of the best
- 53:32Speaker 1: games of the year on paper is, Ohio State at Indiana.
- 53:35Speaker 1: You're like, what? You mean Ohio State at Michigan? You
- 53:38Speaker 1: mean Ohio State at Oregon? No, Ohio State at Indiana.
- 53:42Speaker 1: Is it USC in the Big Ten? You mean like
- 53:44Speaker 1: USC at one? No, Ohio State at Indiana. Must watch.
- 53:49Speaker 1: Get your popcorn out. It is, could be a Final
- 53:52Speaker 1: Four preview. People think you aren't drugs. It's like, I
- 53:58Speaker 1: can't wait to watch this bad boy. Let's do a
- 54:01Speaker 1: couple mailbag questions. We got some new Stanleys in my
- 54:04Speaker 1: house because of Prime Day. They had a big sale. Okay,
- 54:08Speaker 1: let's start with Max. Had a question on UDFAs. Watching
- 54:12Speaker 1: my Patriots this year, Efton Chisholm has made big plays
- 54:16Speaker 1: and Elijah Ponder, Cal Poly, leads the team in sacks.
- 54:21Speaker 1: It never ceases to amaze me that guys who go
- 54:24Speaker 1: undrafted every single year have immediate impact around the league.
- 54:29Speaker 1: Back to your scouting days. Did you ever identify sign
- 54:32Speaker 1: a UDFA who went on to have success in the league? Uh,
- 54:37Speaker 1: I don't remember when I was with the Eagles. It's
- 54:39Speaker 1: like nailing some UD. Uh, yeah, we had, uh, Austin, uh,
- 54:45Speaker 1: left tack or use right tackle. He got, he, signed
- 54:48Speaker 1: a big contract with the Jets. I wasn't a part
- 54:50Speaker 1: of it. When I got hired, he was a rookie.
- 54:54Speaker 1: I forget his name. But I think a huge part
- 54:58Speaker 1: of undrafted free agents, you use Chisholm, where'd he go?
- 55:03Speaker 1: Eastern Washington, Ponder, Cal Poly. If guys had shown what
- 55:09Speaker 1: those guys showed at the smaller schools, just at random,
- 55:14Speaker 1: like at Kansas State, at Boston College. You just don't
- 55:19Speaker 1: fly under the radar. But anytime you're at really small schools,
- 55:25Speaker 1: and usually it's like, you know, chisholm size, maybe you
- 55:28Speaker 1: ran a slow 40, maybe, you know, your production wasn't
- 55:33Speaker 1: as good because of a scheme. Like, there's always a
- 55:35Speaker 1: bunch of factors that play into it. Plus, like, there's
- 55:40Speaker 1: a lot of guys in a draft class every year.
- 55:43Speaker 1: And the other thing is like, uh, A huge part
- 55:46Speaker 1: of the draft process is overanalyzation. Because the last time,
- 55:53Speaker 1: like Cal Poly, their last game was probably November 20th. Well,
- 55:58Speaker 1: the draft wasn't until the end of April. So you
- 56:01Speaker 1: kind of get lost in the shuffle. Paralysis by analysis.
- 56:06Speaker 1: You start overthinking it. You start messing with the board.
- 56:09Speaker 1: And honestly, if you, in this day and age too,
- 56:13Speaker 1: it's like, well, why was the guy at a school
- 56:16Speaker 1: like that? Because why didn't he get a transfer portal deal?
- 56:20Speaker 1: And I don't know these guys' exact backstories, but it's
- 56:27Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts of training camp is because
- 56:29Speaker 1: everyone gets so excited, right? April 25th happens, 26th, 27th,
- 56:34Speaker 1: and you get the draft class. You're like, God, I
- 56:37Speaker 1: remember that fourth rounder at Alabama. We got that dude
- 56:40Speaker 1: in the sixth. I remember watching him at USC. See?
- 56:45Speaker 1: And then two weeks into training camp, you're like, it
- 56:48Speaker 1: looks like he's getting lapped by this guy I've never
- 56:49Speaker 1: heard of. It happens every single training camp I've ever
- 56:52Speaker 1: been to. Every single one. Obviously, the first and second
- 56:58Speaker 1: round picks are just kind of on scholarship. But you
- 57:00Speaker 1: see every single year, it's like, that undrafted free agent
- 57:04Speaker 1: guard is better than the guard we drafted in the
- 57:07Speaker 1: third round. Now, you've got to be, you know, the teams...
- 57:11Speaker 1: especially the GMs, aren't going to come out and say that.
- 57:14Speaker 1: Because that's a reflection on them. But internally, they're talking
- 57:17Speaker 1: about it. And in their personnel meetings and the coaching
- 57:21Speaker 1: staff's talking about it. And then you can just, by
- 57:24Speaker 1: the time the preseason starts going, guys rotate in different spots.
- 57:28Speaker 1: And then they work up. It's also much more difficult.
- 57:32Speaker 1: Like you talk about someone running a race. Let's say
- 57:36Speaker 1: I was going to race the fastest person that runs
- 57:40Speaker 1: a mile in America. Well, let's say my mile times,
- 57:44Speaker 1: like right now I could probably run like mid-eighths. Well,
- 57:48Speaker 1: if that guy's running four, like let's say he spots
- 57:51Speaker 1: me a couple laps. He is at a big disadvantage
- 57:56Speaker 1: even if he's hauling ass. If I just, you know,
- 58:00Speaker 1: if somehow I run like a seven-minute mile, it's going
- 58:02Speaker 1: to be really difficult for him to beat me. Right?
- 58:06Speaker 1: It's no different if I'm the third-round pick. I am starting...
- 58:10Speaker 1: on a level the moment training camp, OTAs, pads come on,
- 58:14Speaker 1: much higher than the undrafted free agent. He has to
- 58:17Speaker 1: dig himself out of the hole. It's like when you
- 58:20Speaker 1: see one of these stories like, the guy started in
- 58:22Speaker 1: the mail room. That is an incredible climb to the top.
- 58:27Speaker 1: That is not easy. You gotta fucking hustle. Same thing
- 58:32Speaker 1: as an undrafted free agent. You gotta separate yourself, you're
- 58:34Speaker 1: gonna get limited reps. with your mind knowing the plays,
- 58:38Speaker 1: and then your limited plays in the first preseason game
- 58:41Speaker 1: jump off the screen right away. So both those guys
- 58:45Speaker 1: impress the position coach. Okay, you can impress the position coach.
- 58:48Speaker 1: He's not the decision maker. Okay, I can impress the coordinator.
- 58:53Speaker 1: He's not the decision maker. I've got to keep working
- 58:55Speaker 1: my way up to the head coach. The more advocates
- 58:57Speaker 1: you can get in the building, the better. But it
- 59:00Speaker 1: is a difficult uphill battle these guys fight. And that's
- 59:04Speaker 1: why a lot of them go on to have solid
- 59:06Speaker 1: careers because. their mental toughness to me is pretty special,
- 59:14Speaker 1: if you're going to make it at that. If you
- 59:16Speaker 1: were John Lynch, which positions would you shore up before
- 59:20Speaker 1: the trade deadline? Also, the progression of Green and Mustafa,
- 59:24Speaker 1: I think I called him Mike Mustafa, which is Mike Moustakis,
- 59:30Speaker 1: the baseball player. It's Malik Moustafa, along with Raheem Morris
- 59:35Speaker 1: is doing a great job. There's a fine balance, right?
- 59:41Speaker 1: If you could get a high-impact guy, I'd be interested
- 59:44Speaker 1: in giving a first-round pick for basically any position. D-line,
- 59:51Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a wide receiver worth that. Plus,
- 59:54Speaker 1: you've got reinforcements. You just drafted... Stribling, who I heard Barros,
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: I listened to a 49er podcast, he said he's still
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: in a boot. He might be back a long time
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: from now. But Debo missed a couple weeks. He'd have
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: to be the right guy. And there's not going to
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: be a guy worth the first round pick at wide receiver.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: You know, you can never turn down defensive linemen. But, like,
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: is Crosby going to be available at this point? I
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: don't see that many big-time names being on the chopping block.
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: I would kind of just take a deep breath and
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: just let this play out. If you find yourself 6, 7, 8, no, 9,
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: and 1, it's like, do you need to make a
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: big-time trade? That would be my question. And you had
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: to tell me, like, if Crosby's available, would I be
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: hyper-aggressive 1,000%? But it's like, what are we? Brandon Cooks.
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: They just found him on the street, didn't have to
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: give up anything, scored a touchdown against Seattle. I think
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: they're in a pretty good position right now where they
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: can just let everything play out. Do you think this
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: may be starting to happen, has already happened, or maybe
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: just a weird-ass look into the future? A head coach
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: or OC in the pros stopped designing their own plays
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: and just ran entire schemes stolen from old plays. Between
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: the TV, YouTube, and all 22, there must literally be
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: 1 million plays already designed and run with various degrees
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: of success. Even worse, AI designing plays. Opposing defenses may
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: struggle to know what you're running at first. It's not really, quote,
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: your scheme, and until the week of the game, you
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: didn't even know what you were running. It's a hell
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: of a question. A lot of plays, in general, are stolen. So,
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: I would say every play that's ran on Sunday, this
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: upcoming Sunday, there have been versions of those plays, if
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: not the same exact play, run hundreds of times in
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: the NFL. Maybe they add some dressing to a motion,
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: move a guy in a little different position, maybe offset
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: a back. Who knows? You can do little tweaks. I
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: don't think anyone is really designing new stuff. There are
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: tweaks to plays, and maybe you have a route from
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: the slot receiver that is a five yard in, you
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: change to like a post or a hitch. I mean,
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: I think that is already happening. The other thing is this.
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: If I just ran a query, if I were these guys,
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: and picked the 50 best plays against cover two, because
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: I'm playing a defense that only runs cover two or
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: cover four, you know, blitzes their linebackers a lot. And
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: they give me all these plays. If I don't know
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: the ins and outs of why they blocked a certain
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: way and what the, I would say, tweaks are, if
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: they give us different looks, then how do I coach
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: my players to know that? I think that is a
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: big deterrent on a lot of coaches today. trying to
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: install plays that they have no knowledge on. Or definitely
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: play books, because they don't understand the why behind it.
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: For all the Shanahan guys, they have a pretty good
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: feel for the Shanahan run scheme, which is the inside
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: and outside zone. The people that came from Bill Walsh
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: to Mike Holmgren to Andy Reid, all those offensive guys,
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: it's changed dramatically, but had a base knowledge of the
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: West Coast offense and the terminology behind it. Zebra, tiger,
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: all these terms that determine different personnel groupings. I would
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: imagine Andy still has some of those personalities, still calls
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: them that. Three wide receivers, one running back, one tight end.
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: two running backs, they all had different names. And they
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: had carried over for decades. And the plays, at least
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: the core plays, which I would imagine are dramatically different,
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: carried down from generation. But those people knew the ins
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: and outs of that play. When you work somewhere, And
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: it's a company, let's say Apple, Google, fucking the volume, whatever.
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: You have a core philosophy as an organization. You have
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: certain ways you do certain things. And if you're there
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: long enough, you have a direct understanding and knowledge of
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: the way that they want it done and why it's
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: done that way. And then you become comfortable implementing that
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: in however you do things, right? But if you just
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: go somewhere else or try to copy someone else based
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: on a book you read or something you saw on
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: the internet, do you really understand it? So I hear
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: what you're saying, and I think people steal individual plays
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: all the time. Signetti just said last week against Nebraska,
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: the game-winning play to Marsh. Stole it from Kansas. So
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: it's like Andy Reid's been stealing plays from the 30s before.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: But an entire playbook... it becomes a little more difficult.
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: Because if you do have questions, who do you ask?
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: Is AI like Sean McVay? Sean McVay's decision not to
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: go for two Monday at the end of regulation is
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: a catastrophe. The defense was getting exposed the entire second half.
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: Mevis has already missed a kick. How do you not
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: go for two while Stafford just went five of five
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: for like 50 plus yards while surgical against a poor secondary?
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: Just as salty as a Pats fan knowing. I would
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: say pretty consistently, because I have the same thought. Jameis
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: is lighting up the commanders. Back-to-back touchdown drives, carving them up.
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: My guy Shane, diehard Giants fan. I get on the
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: text thread here at the volume and I go, we
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: going for two? And everyone's like, no chance. I think
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: in the NFL, I think in college you see it
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: much more often. I think in the NFL, they play
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: for overtime. I also think it's easier. I know they
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: had the Devontae success in the red zone. You would
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: have said, whatever the percentage chances, if they ran a
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: two-point play, it would have been higher than 50-50. But
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: coaches just do not. They just don't. And fair or not,
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a void criticism, because if
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: they just drove the field with like three seconds left
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: or however many seconds were on the clock when Kieran
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: Williams walked in the end zone, if they ran a
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: play and it doesn't work, because the one thing on
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: the two-point play, you kind of know right away, especially
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: if you don't have a mobile quarterback. So if they're
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: running a pass play, And it doesn't open up right away.
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: Stafford can't extend it with his legs. The one thing
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: about the two-point spot is the field is way more compact. Right?
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: Because you don't have any length to spread it out.
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: It's just the nature of... That's why some offenses are
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: actually like, I'd rather be on the eight-yard line sometimes
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: than the three. Because I have sweet wide receivers, let
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: them run around a little bit, utilize their athleticism. And
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: I think your margin for error with a non-athletic quarterback
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: in that spot, it's like, yeah, had they already used
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: a couple to bang home some touchdowns? So I didn't
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: have a problem with them playing for overtime. After watching
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: the end of the Niner-Seahawks game and the weird cup
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: ruling where we all learned about the ball is considered
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: out of bounds when it crosses the sideline, I can't
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: help but think about all the other instances where that
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: seem to be inconsistent with this. What about when a
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: wide receiver is a tiptoe catch on the sideline, reaching
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: the ball, which has already crossed the line out of bounds,
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: or when a kick returner running back is running tight
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: on the sideline, carrying the ball in their outside arm.
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: There has to, there's gotta be times where the ball
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: has crossed the imaginary out of bounds line. What do
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: you think of these instances? well it doesn't matter if
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: the ball is out of bounds of your feet are
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: in bounds my issue with that play and I thought
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: it was a first down I always thought and guys
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: do it all the time when you were in the
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: air you have not touched the white lines yet and
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: you were reaching the ball it happens it's happened my
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: entire life Definitely in the modern era. And guys, reach
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: it out. It's just when you end up hitting where
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: the ball was. It's why the moment the Cooper Cup
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: caught it, I thought automatic first down. I remember going
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: to so many Raider games. Derek Carr did that his
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: entire career. And it just turns out it didn't matter.
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: Unless they're really reaching it before it even crosses. I
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: don't know. To me, running with the ball, it doesn't
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: matter if your feet are inbounds. The other one, receiver
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: has a tiptoe catch on the sideline. Again, as long
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: as your feet are inbounds, you're good. I just always
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: thought if you were elevated, like in the air, above
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: the white line, the ball was... That's why guys reach
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: the ball out. Which I wonder if a lot of
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: guys just didn't know that rule. I wonder if coaches
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: didn't know that rule, which would seem crazy. If Bryce
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: Young keeps playing like this, there is no doubt he
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: should be in the MVP conversation by the end of
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: the year. Do you think he has a legitimate chance
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: to win? A legitimate chance to win the MVP, it
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: feels like a stretch. I would say for him to
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: win the MVP, I mean, Josh is already 4-1. Purdy's 5-0.
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: What are the Panthers? 2-2? I think he'd have to
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: win 12-plus games to even have a shot. And what's
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: his stats right now? Like 11 touchdowns? 9 touchdowns? 2 picks?
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: I think if he threw like 40 touchdowns and they
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: won 12 or 13 games, he'd 100% be in the conversation.
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: Let's take a look at... I kind of like Carolina.
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: Carolina is who I wish I would have picked instead
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: of the Saints. So you get Philly this week. That's
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: a big game. Terrible slate. Ton of people are going
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: to be watching that game. Big spot for them. Tampa,
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: like that's a game not many people are watching. At
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: Green Bay, Thursday night football. Huge spot. Denver, a lot
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: of people are going to be watching that game. New Orleans,
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: not as many. Baltimore, massive game. At Minnesota, massive game.
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, massive game. At Pittsburgh, massive game. Seattle, I
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: mean they got non-division, they got some big time games.
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: I don't know if they're getting to 11 with this schedule.
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: If they beat Philly, then they probably get Jalen Daniels.
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: They could be 4-2 pretty easily. Everyone connects the former
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: Washington staff, McVay, Shanahan, LaFleur, who are offensive guys and
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: have become head coaches. But the Rams, Niners, and Packers,
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: they constantly rank low in special teams. Is this a
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: coincidence or a byproduct of a philosophical coaching tree that
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: consistently neglects special teams? I was thinking about this the
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: other day because I've been asked this before. I think
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: I just answered a somewhat similar question recently. Think who's
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: good at special teams. CEO head coaches. Because CEO head
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: coaches tend to be defensive guys. And a huge part
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: of special teams is like a physical element. You know,
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: part of like Kyle Shanahan, he has nothing to do
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: with defense. He's not coaching up, tackling him or McVay.
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: So when they fuck up on special teams on punt
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: or kickoff, like he doesn't care about those. And when
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: you say punt or kickoff, you think the kicker and
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: the punter. if you're a defensive guy, like a John Harbaugh,
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: a Mike Tomlin, like that's kind of right up your alley.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: Covering a kick, break it down, being physical, shedding blocks, right?
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: And I think a huge element to CEO head coaches,
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: you have no excuse to not be good at special teams.
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: I think those guys are just obsessed with their plays.
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: They want to call offense. Like that's their baby. So
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: like talking about field goal block bores the shit out
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: of them. Where I think a lot of the CEO
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: head coaches kind of like you can kind of get
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: hands on with that stuff. So I think a lot
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: has to do with the nature of the individual play.
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: It's just like this is so stupid. I think it
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: was Bobby Jones that said putting should be outlawed in
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: golf because you could hit a great drive You could
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: hit a pro shot to five feet, and then you
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: miss the birdie putt. You're like, how does the putt
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: have anything to do with my two elite shots? I
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: just hit a 300-yard drive. I hit a buttercup five iron,
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: and then I miss a putt. It's like, yeah, that's
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: the game. Kickers and punters are part of the game.
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: There's a reason Mivas can wear the same uniform as
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Devontae Adams, and Matt Stafford. That guy Mivas
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: was literally just on the same team as some of
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: the best players in, like, I mean, Aaron Donald's one
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: of the greatest players in NFL history. Devontae's one touchdown
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: pass away from passing Larry Fitzgerald. Putin Akua is like
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: a $ 150 million player. Stafford's a Hall of Famer. And
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: Mivas was just his teammate. Like, just taking a piss
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: in the same urinal pregame. Probably using, you know, the
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: same soap dispenser in the shower. Getting ready to leave
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: the stadium. Think about that. We'll end on this. What
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: if a team like the Lions or the Cowboys just
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: elected to onside kick after every score? If they're going
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: to give up 30 plus points, then why not try
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: to steal an extra possession or two for their offense?
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: Worst case scenario, they get scored on anyways. Because even
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: if your defense is horrendous, you are going to get
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: some third down stops. If you just hand the other team,
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: and the likelihood of getting onside kicks is extremely low.
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: Let's chat GPT it. Percentage of onside kick success. It's
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: been as low as 3.7 to 5%. Pre-2018, historical average
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: was around... It was a pretty wide margin. Let's just
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: go to the last... several years. 7%, 13%, 4%, 21%, 16%.
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: The difference though is they used to not know it
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: was coming. I guess you're talking about literally just line
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: up for an onside kick, but I would imagine some
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: of these are surprise onside kick. Now you have to
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: let them know you're kicking the onside kick because of
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: the new kickoff rule, which I think would add to
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: a lower percentage. I think we're The last couple years,
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: it's been under 5%. Because when they know it's coming,
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: their likelihood of getting it is extremely high. I also
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: think you should be able to get a couple off
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: the field and a couple third downs. If you just
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: hand the other team 30 or 40 yards, their point
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: per possession would skyrocket. So if your defense was already shitty,
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: and you're going to get one five out of 100
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: onside kicks... You're never going to win. Especially if your
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: offense has a bad day, you're going to get blown out.
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: I like the outside-of-the-box thinking, though. Can you imagine if
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer did that one week? Just onside kicked it
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: every single possession? You think Jerry would fire him right
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: after the game? Because I think there would be a
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: decent chance he would. Have a great weekend. Enjoy Saturday.
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: Probably a little more on Sunday. Hopefully, if your team's
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: a big favorite, they win. And if your team's a
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: big underdog, they pull a rabbit out of the hat. Adios.
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: The Volume.