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- 1:16Speaker 1: nineteen fifty, here is the Big Car.
- 1:27Speaker 2: The story you're about to hear is true, only the
- 1:30Speaker 2: names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a
- 1:41Speaker 2: detective sergeant. You're assigned to robbery detail. In four months,
- 1:45Speaker 2: fifteen food markets in your city have been held up
- 1:48Speaker 2: and rubbed. The bandit is well dressed, well armed. Your
- 1:52Speaker 2: job stopping.
- 2:03Speaker 3: Drag net the documented drama of an actual crime Pau
- 2:07Speaker 3: the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles
- 2:09Speaker 3: Police Department, you will travel step by step on the
- 2:12Speaker 3: side of the law through an actual case transcribed from
- 2:15Speaker 3: official police polence, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Dragnet is the story of your police force and action.
- 2:27Speaker 4: It was Monday, February twelfth. It was cold in Los Angeles.
- 2:30Speaker 4: We were working the night Watch out of robbery detail.
- 2:33Speaker 4: My partner's Ben Romero, the boss's Dad Brown, Chief of Detectives,
- 2:36Speaker 4: My name is Friday.
- 2:37Speaker 5: Was nine forty eight pm.
- 2:39Speaker 4: When we get the room twenty five, a interrogation room.
- 2:46Speaker 5: Have a chair, mister Barrn.
- 2:48Speaker 4: Thanks Now, what is it that you want to tell us?
- 2:54Speaker 5: Sir? Well, you have a cigarette? Please?
- 2:57Speaker 6: Yeah, there you are, Thank you. I'm a little nervous.
- 3:08Speaker 6: It's never happened to me before.
- 3:10Speaker 5: What's that?
- 3:11Speaker 6: Well, after I thought it over, I knew it wouldn't
- 3:13Speaker 6: be any use to keep it up. I knew you'd
- 3:15Speaker 6: find me, but I don't think I quite follow you.
- 3:17Speaker 6: I want to confess. That's why I came here. Real
- 3:20Speaker 6: I knew what I was doing wrong. I just couldn't
- 3:23Speaker 6: help myself.
- 3:23Speaker 5: What have you done?
- 3:24Speaker 6: I'm not trying to defend myself or needed money, that's all.
- 3:27Speaker 6: Wasn't anything else I could do.
- 3:29Speaker 5: But we still don't know what you're talking about.
- 3:30Speaker 6: Pollard, been after me four months, so maybe you recognized
- 3:34Speaker 6: me from the description. Some of the people not have
- 3:36Speaker 6: seen me. Hum those food market holdups? You pulled those
- 3:41Speaker 6: robberies by yourself? Yeah, fifteen of them? Needed the money?
- 3:45Speaker 5: Pollard? Is that your true name? That's right?
- 3:48Speaker 6: Yeah, Frank Bowler? Have you ever been arrested before? Drunk charge?
- 3:51Speaker 6: That's all? I don't know why I went wrong? It
- 3:54Speaker 6: just did.
- 3:54Speaker 5: Have you ever done any big time?
- 3:56Speaker 7: No?
- 3:58Speaker 5: Why do you want to confess? I want to get
- 3:59Speaker 5: it off my mind.
- 4:00Speaker 6: I want to tell somebody, everybody what cat call in
- 4:04Speaker 6: newspapers and I'll give them a whole story.
- 4:06Speaker 5: I'll tell 'em everything. Uh. How many of those markets
- 4:10Speaker 5: did you hold up? Probably fifteen? And you said you
- 4:14Speaker 5: needed the money? Is that right? Why? Personal reasons? And
- 4:19Speaker 5: look you got a light again? Smokes out?
- 4:21Speaker 6: Yeah, uh huh yeah.
- 4:31Speaker 5: Did you use pretty much the same routine on all
- 4:33Speaker 5: of the hold ups? Is that right?
- 4:34Speaker 8: Yeah?
- 4:34Speaker 6: I only pulled one job a week. Figured that was
- 4:37Speaker 6: the safest way. Dressed pretty well like a salesman. Always
- 4:41Speaker 6: had a briefcase with me, said, what are you carrying
- 4:43Speaker 6: the gun?
- 4:44Speaker 5: Yeah? Always worked too.
- 4:45Speaker 6: I'd show up at closing time, get the manager in
- 4:48Speaker 6: the back room, and then pull the highest What kind
- 4:50Speaker 6: of a gun did you use? Service pistol? I had
- 4:52Speaker 6: it from when I was in the army. How do
- 4:54Speaker 6: you usually work it?
- 4:55Speaker 8: Oh?
- 4:55Speaker 6: When I got the manager alone in the back office,
- 4:57Speaker 6: I'd just pull a gun. I'd say the money, all
- 5:00Speaker 6: of it. They knew I wasn't pooling niggim in the dog.
- 5:03Speaker 5: You don't seem to fit the hold up man's description
- 5:05Speaker 5: too closely. Did you wear a mask on those jobs?
- 5:07Speaker 5: Did it? Sometimes? It did? Sometimes it didn't. How about
- 5:09Speaker 5: the man who worked with you? Where's he wasn't anybody else?
- 5:12Speaker 5: Just me?
- 5:13Speaker 6: Worked him alone. That's where you cops are wrong. You
- 5:16Speaker 6: thought there were two of us, didn't you?
- 5:17Speaker 5: We thought so?
- 5:18Speaker 6: Yeah, pulled every job by myself. That's where I crossed
- 5:22Speaker 6: you up and kneway I was doing I didn't need
- 5:24Speaker 6: any help.
- 5:24Speaker 4: Well, how about that market out of the West seventh
- 5:26Speaker 4: that you held up last night? Did you pull that
- 5:27Speaker 4: one alone too?
- 5:28Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 5:29Speaker 6: I'm sure I always work alone. Guess I had you
- 5:32Speaker 6: guys going, huh, your story doesn't come very close. The
- 5:35Speaker 6: man where after he doesn't use the service pistol. He
- 5:36Speaker 6: never wears a mask in it. What are you guys
- 5:39Speaker 6: getting that? I told you I pulled those robberies. I
- 5:41Speaker 6: dol'n't know how it happened. I used a service pistol.
- 5:43Speaker 5: Did you use it in that robbery last night that
- 5:45Speaker 5: went out on West Seventh? Sure? I always used the
- 5:47Speaker 5: same gun. Last night was no different. You're wasting time, mister.
- 5:50Speaker 5: What do you I mean? I look, I just want
- 5:52Speaker 5: to confess. You know, sir, there wasn't any robbery last night.
- 5:58Speaker 4: One further questioning beg Frank Pollard broke down and admitted.
- 6:02Speaker 5: His confession was a lie.
- 6:03Speaker 4: He explained that he wanted the publicity to impress a girlfriend.
- 6:06Speaker 4: We had him fingerprinted and delivered him to the Georgia
- 6:08Speaker 4: Street Hospital. Detail was filed on, and then we moved
- 6:11Speaker 4: to the psychopathic ward at the County Hospital for further
- 6:13Speaker 4: examination and treatment. Our four month old search for the
- 6:17Speaker 4: market bandit went on. In the two weeks that followed,
- 6:20Speaker 4: we tracked down more leaves. They led nowhere the real
- 6:23Speaker 4: market bandit was still at large. On the night of
- 6:26Speaker 4: February twenty fifth, they hit again, this time at a
- 6:29Speaker 4: supermarket out on Santa Monica Boulevard. We interviewed the manager
- 6:33Speaker 4: of mister Harry Talbot in his small office at the
- 6:35Speaker 4: rear of the store.
- 6:36Speaker 9: I guess I should have known better. I got the
- 6:38Speaker 9: bullet and you sent out on the guy. His description everything,
- 6:41Speaker 9: I just wasn't thinking.
- 6:42Speaker 5: I guess he came into the market just before closing time,
- 6:45Speaker 5: Is that right?
- 6:46Speaker 9: Yeah, a couple of minutes after eight, look well dressed,
- 6:48Speaker 9: had a briefcase.
- 6:49Speaker 5: Under his arm. I fell for it like the rest
- 6:51Speaker 5: of him. I thought he was a salesman. How about
- 6:53Speaker 5: the man's description, sir.
- 6:55Speaker 9: About five foot eleven hundred and seventy pounds. I guess
- 6:58Speaker 9: gray suit, the same description you have Perrier up in
- 7:01Speaker 9: the paper.
- 7:02Speaker 5: Was anyone else around when the man came in the door.
- 7:04Speaker 9: One of my clerks, evert smiley, he saw him leave
- 7:07Speaker 9: and get in a car right after the robbery.
- 7:09Speaker 5: Is this clerk still around? We'd like to talk to him.
- 7:11Speaker 9: Oh, he went down the street im and hear me
- 7:12Speaker 9: right back, and maybe that's you.
- 7:15Speaker 10: Yeah, mister Talbot you remember me, Missus Bolton.
- 7:20Speaker 5: Oh yes, ma'am, like to ask.
- 7:21Speaker 11: You a favor. Mister Talbot is an old customer.
- 7:25Speaker 9: I'm tied up right now, ma'am. Could I see you
- 7:26Speaker 9: a little later on?
- 7:27Speaker 11: I won't even come in, mister Talbot.
- 7:29Speaker 10: You see, we're having our annual benefit whist party down
- 7:32Speaker 10: at the community church.
- 7:33Speaker 11: They were going to have it next Thursday, but I made.
- 7:36Speaker 10: Them put it off another week so we could get
- 7:37Speaker 10: some decent prizes.
- 7:38Speaker 5: Oh yes, ma'am.
- 7:39Speaker 10: Of course, lots of our people are good customers of
- 7:41Speaker 10: the store here, so I knew you'd be willing to give.
- 7:44Speaker 11: Something to the prize list.
- 7:45Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Shall I put.
- 7:47Speaker 11: You down from one of the door prizes?
- 7:49Speaker 10: Maybe two or three market baskets full of can corn
- 7:52Speaker 10: pease things like that.
- 7:53Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Missus Bolton.
- 7:54Speaker 9: I'll have ever fixed them up tomorrow.
- 7:56Speaker 5: Of course.
- 7:56Speaker 11: Well, thank you very much, mister Talbot. I'll have my
- 8:00Speaker 11: I Robert picked him up tomorrow. You'll have the best.
- 8:03Speaker 11: It's fixed up real nice, won't.
- 8:05Speaker 12: You, yes, ma'am, I'll take care of it well, thank you, goodbye, goodbye, ma'am, goodbye, gentlemen.
- 8:13Speaker 4: Mister Talbot. I wonder if you could tell us what
- 8:14Speaker 4: happened after you got back here in your office with
- 8:16Speaker 4: a hold up man, It.
- 8:17Speaker 5: Happened pretty fast.
- 8:18Speaker 9: He reached into the briefcase he was carrying like he
- 8:21Speaker 9: was going to get his order book, and he came
- 8:22Speaker 9: up with this gun.
- 8:23Speaker 5: He told me to open that safe there, but I stole.
- 8:27Speaker 9: I said, I didn't know how I see, And that's
- 8:29Speaker 9: when he started telling me what he'd do to my family,
- 8:32Speaker 9: my wife if I didn't open the safe. He knew
- 8:34Speaker 9: all about us, my address, my wife's name, my kids.
- 8:38Speaker 12: He said he'd get them if I didn't do what
- 8:39Speaker 12: I was told. Same Amo never failed him.
- 8:42Speaker 5: What'd you do? Then? Tell it? Well, money's not worth
- 8:45Speaker 5: that much to me. I opened the safe and gave him.
- 8:46Speaker 9: Everything, a little over four hundred dollars. I still don't
- 8:50Speaker 9: know how I got that information about my family.
- 8:52Speaker 5: Do you have any suspicions at all? No, nobody I
- 8:54Speaker 5: can think of. How about the gun? He can you
- 8:56Speaker 5: describe it?
- 8:57Speaker 9: But just like you haven't listed in that bulletin on
- 8:59Speaker 9: him thirty eight revolve.
- 9:00Speaker 5: A blue steel long bow and mister Talbott, come on
- 9:05Speaker 5: in ev officers, this is my clerk.
- 9:09Speaker 9: Everett Smiley I'm sorry, I forgot your name.
- 9:12Speaker 5: Friday in Romero, Robert y tamp hi Yah. I love it. Hey,
- 9:16Speaker 5: mister Talbot says that you saw the hold up man
- 9:18Speaker 5: leaving the market. Is that right? Yeah, that's right.
- 9:20Speaker 6: He walked right out of the store and down the street,
- 9:22Speaker 6: just like nothing happened. I didn't know anything was wrong
- 9:24Speaker 6: till later. Did you notice if the men got in
- 9:26Speaker 6: the car?
- 9:27Speaker 5: Yeah? I did.
- 9:28Speaker 6: Car was sparked about halfway down the block. Another guy
- 9:30Speaker 6: was driving, motor was running.
- 9:32Speaker 12: You catch the license number? No, but it was a
- 9:34Speaker 12: bran new sedan, a Pontiac. I think you shouldn't have
- 9:37Speaker 12: much trouble.
- 9:38Speaker 6: Finding it without a license number. Oh, it's a brand
- 9:41Speaker 6: new car. I remember the color. I couldn't forget that. Yeah,
- 9:44Speaker 6: bright red, just like a fire engine.
- 9:49Speaker 4: Ninety percent of the time, color identification of a car
- 9:51Speaker 4: means nothing. For one thing, a getaway car can be
- 9:54Speaker 4: painted in a matter of a few hours, and for another,
- 9:56Speaker 4: the color of a vehicle is not listed on the
- 9:58Speaker 4: registration slip. Possible to check a car through DMV on
- 10:02Speaker 4: color alone, But in this case we figured that we
- 10:04Speaker 4: had half an exception to the rule. The car used
- 10:07Speaker 4: and the robbery was new was painted a very distinctive color.
- 10:11Speaker 4: We began an immediate canvas of automobile dealers throughout the city.
- 10:15Speaker 4: After a day and a half of calling and checking,
- 10:17Speaker 4: we found two dealers would sold two new cars within
- 10:20Speaker 4: recent weeks with fire engine red paint jobs. We got
- 10:23Speaker 4: the names and addresses of the purchases and check them out.
- 10:26Speaker 4: One of them was a mismoona tailor, an ad taker
- 10:28Speaker 4: for one of the daily morning paint roots.
- 10:32Speaker 5: I'm sorry to brought you that your work, misteray, not
- 10:34Speaker 5: at all. Most of it's over for today. What is
- 10:36Speaker 5: it you want to know?
- 10:37Speaker 4: We understand that you bought a new Pontiacciday in about
- 10:39Speaker 4: three weeks ago.
- 10:40Speaker 5: Is that correct?
- 10:41Speaker 13: Yes?
- 10:41Speaker 5: I did.
- 10:42Speaker 13: Oh if this is about that parking, take it like
- 10:45Speaker 13: I've already taken care of it.
- 10:47Speaker 5: No, man, that's not it. We just like to know
- 10:48Speaker 5: if you still own that car. Well, I don't own
- 10:50Speaker 5: it yet, I'm still paying on it. Colors there, bright red?
- 10:53Speaker 5: Is that right? Yes? It is fire engine red. I
- 10:55Speaker 5: like bright colors. Well, does anyone else beside yourself drive
- 10:58Speaker 5: the car? Mastailing?
- 10:59Speaker 1: Well?
- 10:59Speaker 13: Yes, once in a while. I lend it to my
- 11:01Speaker 13: boyfriend Al al Daily. I have known him prolonged time.
- 11:05Speaker 5: Excuse me.
- 11:08Speaker 13: Last by das Miss Taylor, Yes, sir, two room apartment, unfurnished.
- 11:14Speaker 5: All right, you've got a smoke you Beverly Hill eight.
- 11:22Speaker 13: Okay, yes, sir, tomorrow Morning's edition.
- 11:26Speaker 11: Yes, two dollars and cents for two days?
- 11:28Speaker 13: Did I have your name addressing telephone number?
- 11:32Speaker 5: Thanks you, sir. I am about this friend of yours,
- 11:36Speaker 5: Miss Taylor, and this el Daily. How long have you been.
- 11:39Speaker 13: Lending him your car since he got his new salesman's job.
- 11:42Speaker 13: Guess to make night calls on customers out in the valley,
- 11:45Speaker 13: So I let him have a car, usually about once
- 11:47Speaker 13: a week.
- 11:48Speaker 4: When's the last time that he borrowed the comments two
- 11:50Speaker 4: nights ago from Mona Taylor, we got the address of
- 11:55Speaker 4: her boyfriend al Daily relocated him in a rooming house
- 11:59Speaker 4: on South Boulevard. He admitted he borrowed the tailor girl's
- 12:02Speaker 4: car the night before, but he denied that he drove
- 12:03Speaker 4: it anywhere in the vicinity of the robbery.
- 12:06Speaker 5: How about your friend Jimmy Bray, I.
- 12:08Speaker 14: Don't know I owned the car. That's all. He gave
- 12:12Speaker 14: me thirty bucks. Well, that's an awful lot of rental money.
- 12:15Speaker 14: Why did he need a car? Savand I don't know.
- 12:19Speaker 5: Let you ask Ken. Where's he staying? Warlotte Hotel Ethan
- 12:25Speaker 5: Flo You going over to see him, now, that's right? Why?
- 12:29Speaker 14: Well, I thought if you were going over there, he
- 12:31Speaker 14: wouldn't mind taking this with you. He left it in
- 12:33Speaker 14: the car when he brought it back his briefcase. It'savanla,
- 12:39Speaker 14: it's a naa. It's all a fuss about a briefcase. Yeah,
- 12:45Speaker 14: what is it? Let's see, all right? You get an
- 12:48Speaker 14: answer for that? Daily Sure a funny place to keep
- 12:52Speaker 14: a gun. He took al Daily downtown where he was
- 12:57Speaker 14: held for questioning. He had a stakeout placed on his
- 12:59Speaker 14: room house. We had both Daily and Bray checked through
- 13:02Speaker 14: R and I.
- 13:03Speaker 5: No criminal record.
- 13:04Speaker 4: The briefcase and the thirty eight revolver were booked as
- 13:06Speaker 4: evidence with the property clerk. There was no record or
- 13:09Speaker 4: prints on the gun. The Taylor Girl's car was impounded
- 13:11Speaker 4: to be checked for fingerprints. Seven pm, we drove out
- 13:15Speaker 4: to the Bottle of hotel on Eighth and Flower. The
- 13:17Speaker 4: room clerk confirmed the fact that Jimmy Bray was a
- 13:19Speaker 4: registered guest at the hotel.
- 13:21Speaker 5: You want to call the office. Jill, Yeah, all right,
- 13:23Speaker 5: I'll do it. We got change. Yeah, I think I
- 13:25Speaker 5: have yep.
- 13:26Speaker 15: Okay City Hall two five to one on.
- 13:54Speaker 5: Robbery Powers Joe Friday, John, We're out at Bray's hotel.
- 13:58Speaker 5: We're gonna stake it out. He's not in yet. That's
- 14:00Speaker 5: what I figured.
- 14:01Speaker 9: What you mean, market out on twelve Street was held
- 14:03Speaker 9: up a minute ago.
- 14:04Speaker 5: Bandit carried briefcase.
- 14:15Speaker 3: You are listening to drag net authentic stories of your
- 14:19Speaker 3: police force in action.
- 14:27Speaker 5: Eleven thirty pm.
- 14:28Speaker 4: After checking Bray's room and finding nothing, Ben and I
- 14:31Speaker 4: remained on stake out.
- 14:31Speaker 5: At the Bartlett Hotel. The suspect failed to show up.
- 14:34Speaker 5: At midnight, Young and Mackenzie came out and relieved us.
- 14:37Speaker 5: We drove back to.
- 14:38Speaker 4: The office and got the particulars on the hold up
- 14:40Speaker 4: of the twelfth Street market. The m was almost exactly
- 14:43Speaker 4: the same as in the other sixteen robberies. The victim's
- 14:46Speaker 4: description of the hold up man matched perfectly with Bray's.
- 14:49Speaker 4: By noon the next day, the suspects still had not
- 14:52Speaker 4: returned to his hotel. An intensive canvas of the immediate
- 14:55Speaker 4: neighborhood around the Bartlett Hotel netted us nothing. Nobody remembered Bray.
- 15:00Speaker 4: We checked the bars and restaurants that he was known
- 15:02Speaker 4: to patronize. No one had any idea where he might be.
- 15:06Speaker 4: Details at the airport, railroad stations, and bus terminals were alerted.
- 15:09Speaker 4: We got out a supplementary description on our original APB.
- 15:13Speaker 4: The Sheriff's office was kept advised. Two days passed, still
- 15:17Speaker 4: no sign. We questioned and requestioned al daily. Either he
- 15:21Speaker 4: couldn't or he wouldn't add anything to what he'd already
- 15:23Speaker 4: told us about Bray. A series of stakeouts were placed
- 15:25Speaker 4: at food markets and areas where Bray had staged robberies previously.
- 15:29Speaker 4: A composite picture of the suspect was made up and
- 15:31Speaker 4: given wide distribution throughout the city.
- 15:33Speaker 5: It all went for nothing.
- 15:35Speaker 4: The following Tuesday, March fourth, Bray robbed a neighborhood market
- 15:39Speaker 4: in Highland.
- 15:39Speaker 5: Park of one hundred and fifty dollars. I had to
- 15:41Speaker 5: give him the money.
- 15:42Speaker 16: Sergeant he fed in my wife and kids said he'd
- 15:45Speaker 16: see something happen to them if I didn't open the safe.
- 15:48Speaker 5: Did you say war gloves, sir? That's right.
- 15:51Speaker 16: I thought it didn't, Juy, But first salesman wearing gloves
- 15:54Speaker 16: like that. Didn't think about it till it was too late.
- 15:56Speaker 5: Did you notice if he was on foot or did
- 15:58Speaker 5: he get away in a car?
- 15:59Speaker 16: He had a car all right part down the street
- 16:01Speaker 16: there saw up through the window.
- 16:03Speaker 5: Another fellow was at the wheel.
- 16:04Speaker 4: Did you notice anything else about the car? The license number?
- 16:06Speaker 16: Maybe no, I couldn't see that. But it was a
- 16:08Speaker 16: coop I'm sure of that. Yeah, it was red, bright red.
- 16:15Speaker 16: There was one angle we couldn't figure.
- 16:17Speaker 4: If Bray has been on a steady career of robbery,
- 16:19Speaker 4: why did he use an escape car painted the most
- 16:21Speaker 4: conspicuous color possible. We checked out Mona Taylor's car again,
- 16:24Speaker 4: there was no connection. The search went on two weeks,
- 16:28Speaker 4: three weeks, another month. Bray kept to his usual schedule,
- 16:31Speaker 4: one robbery a week. The lake work went on too.
- 16:35Speaker 4: On March twentieth, we got a call from one of
- 16:37Speaker 4: Ben's informants. He told us that he'd seen a man
- 16:39Speaker 4: answering Bray's description in the Venice Park amusement area down
- 16:42Speaker 4: to the beach, and we drove out of Venice to
- 16:44Speaker 4: check it out.
- 16:47Speaker 5: Pretty good crowd for a cold nine. Yeah, where do
- 16:50Speaker 5: we find a friend of yours?
- 16:51Speaker 12: See where the money go around here is up ahead? Yeah,
- 16:55Speaker 12: just beyond that he runs one of the booze you
- 16:57Speaker 12: throw baseballs at pony milk three tash fret dime you know,
- 17:01Speaker 12: oh yea, he and his wife running. They were not
- 17:03Speaker 12: here for years. I don't know how they ever make
- 17:06Speaker 12: a living.
- 17:06Speaker 5: Eh.
- 17:07Speaker 12: They those hot dogs smell good, don't they.
- 17:15Speaker 5: That's your friend's booth to foss away there? Yeah?
- 17:17Speaker 13: Yeah, girls, how you can throw a baseball still the mount?
- 17:23Speaker 11: Now let the girl kind of free throw step up
- 17:25Speaker 11: when it fly.
- 17:26Speaker 12: Looks like Marg's running in place tonight, maud that's his wyea?
- 17:30Speaker 12: How you do side cold night?
- 17:31Speaker 11: Huh?
- 17:31Speaker 17: Alright, this is my partner, Joe Friday.
- 17:34Speaker 5: Oh are you glad to know you?
- 17:35Speaker 12: Joe?
- 17:35Speaker 5: Guess you're looking for the scooter. Huh yes, he runs
- 17:38Speaker 5: down the way.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Such, Hey, how am I say?
- 17:40Speaker 5: Let me try you luck? One spin dime still milk
- 17:43Speaker 5: on the good crabs in night month? Oh yeah, I
- 17:46Speaker 5: cannot spend them husband.
- 17:47Speaker 17: Good at all lately?
- 17:48Speaker 5: Where'd you say your husband was? Ma'n? Just down the way?
- 17:51Speaker 13: Oh man, Hudson's out to childs who it runs?
- 17:53Speaker 12: America on for now? Thank you, mam. We'll drop back
- 17:56Speaker 12: to see him before we leave.
- 17:57Speaker 5: Right, glad to meet you, Joe, Yeah, glad to meet you.
- 17:59Speaker 5: Bye the boy.
- 18:01Speaker 11: What do you control?
- 18:03Speaker 5: Scooter? Is that what you said? Is that the guy's name? Yeah,
- 18:05Speaker 5: that's right. He used to run the scooters roll.
- 18:07Speaker 12: You know, the little electric car you drive around, bompers
- 18:10Speaker 12: all around.
- 18:11Speaker 5: Yeah, all right.
- 18:18Speaker 12: Now you Scooter, Hey, Scooter, Sarge, you've been waiting for you.
- 18:24Speaker 5: You'll go ahead.
- 18:25Speaker 7: Joe, Okay, sorry's good to see it, Scooter, my partner.
- 18:36Speaker 5: Joe Friday. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm glad to know you.
- 18:39Speaker 12: Joe.
- 18:40Speaker 5: I guess we can talk here as well as I place. Huh, Jure,
- 18:43Speaker 5: what's the story, Scooter?
- 18:45Speaker 8: Uh, it's like I told johnah phone, Uh, Murphy Donald
- 18:48Speaker 8: Penny Arcade. You know it's the guy first he pointed
- 18:52Speaker 8: him out to me. Sure it's close to the praise subscription.
- 18:57Speaker 5: When did you first see him? Or two nights ago?
- 19:00Speaker 5: I wasn't so sure. It was Bray the first time,
- 19:02Speaker 5: and I saw him last night that since I didn't
- 19:05Speaker 5: hear that.
- 19:06Speaker 8: I said I saw him last night, not that since?
- 19:09Speaker 5: Oh but what did this Murphy was at his name?
- 19:11Speaker 5: What did he per see him?
- 19:12Speaker 16: Now?
- 19:12Speaker 8: About a week ago he's got an ego eye for
- 19:15Speaker 8: strangers who hang around.
- 19:17Speaker 5: Murphy thinks the guy staying out of here some place?
- 19:19Speaker 5: Is there any idea where?
- 19:21Speaker 9: Yeah?
- 19:22Speaker 1: Just a minute.
- 19:24Speaker 8: No jumping around like that's I'm not a fall haanging ahead.
- 19:30Speaker 5: It's what'd you spot this man scooter? Same place Murphy
- 19:34Speaker 5: did it.
- 19:34Speaker 8: He's hanging around the shooting gallery down the way. A
- 19:38Speaker 8: guy who runs the places, no where. We don't know
- 19:40Speaker 8: him well, love to ask him about it.
- 19:42Speaker 5: I mean, this man looks like Bray just hangs around
- 19:44Speaker 5: the corner there. No, not exactly.
- 19:47Speaker 8: You see his little office to one side of the
- 19:50Speaker 8: shooting gallery. And at times I seen the guy.
- 19:54Speaker 5: He was either coming or going out there. When's the
- 19:57Speaker 5: last time the storm good? They went? The last time?
- 20:00Speaker 5: It's on earlier than I at watched six point thirty guy.
- 20:04Speaker 5: I think Murphy is right. The guys holding up in
- 20:07Speaker 5: the area.
- 20:08Speaker 8: Hold on there, curly, No, don't try to get off
- 20:11Speaker 8: from Marry, go out.
- 20:12Speaker 5: Let's stop, sad.
- 20:15Speaker 17: H thank you Lort scooter.
- 20:17Speaker 5: We'll chack back with you for we lee. Yeah, okay,
- 20:20Speaker 5: I I hope it helps you out. I I match right.
- 20:22Speaker 5: Still there, there's a shooting gallery down there. By the
- 20:28Speaker 5: bulls eye.
- 20:29Speaker 12: Son.
- 20:30Speaker 4: Yeah, the guy is bray It's funny that he hasn't
- 20:32Speaker 4: been spotted before.
- 20:33Speaker 5: This area is pretty well patrolled here.
- 20:35Speaker 6: Well, try your skilled fellas ten shots, Sony Parter.
- 20:41Speaker 5: Or police officers like to ask a few questions. Oh
- 20:44Speaker 5: what about what's your name? Gridley? Max Gridley? You know
- 20:48Speaker 5: anybody who the name of James bray Ray? So I know?
- 20:53Speaker 5: Why how about this, mister Gridley? The onlybody who fits
- 20:58Speaker 5: that description? Ye know.
- 21:02Speaker 8: Now that doesn't mean anything to me, which matter anyway?
- 21:06Speaker 4: My man answering that description has been seen entering and
- 21:08Speaker 4: leaving this office right next door over here.
- 21:10Speaker 5: It's part of your concession, isn't it. Yeah, that's right.
- 21:14Speaker 5: I'm the only one who used it. Somebody must have
- 21:16Speaker 5: got the wrong slant.
- 21:17Speaker 12: Then you wouldn't mind if we looked it over routine
- 21:20Speaker 12: investigation and wrong.
- 21:24Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, come around an open door for you, right.
- 21:30Speaker 3: It's just a cubby hole, as you can see, trying
- 21:36Speaker 3: to use it to destroyage place.
- 21:37Speaker 5: Sometimes have my lunch in head taking that once in
- 21:40Speaker 5: a while. Looks pretty well lived.
- 21:42Speaker 12: Then all those clothes are yours, mister Gridley.
- 21:46Speaker 5: That's right? Why way back?
- 21:48Speaker 11: How about a lot of things.
- 21:50Speaker 5: Customer, excuse me, man, be right back, Yeah, go ahead,
- 21:57Speaker 5: a right, Joe, Yeah, over here, have a lot this towel. Yeah,
- 22:06Speaker 5: look at the name of stenciled down at Bottlet Hotel.
- 22:11Speaker 5: Nine thirty pm.
- 22:12Speaker 4: We advised the shooting gallery operator not to attempt any
- 22:15Speaker 4: phone calls. Then I called the office and Rickets and
- 22:18Speaker 4: Powers came out to help us with a stakeout on
- 22:19Speaker 4: the shooting gallery. In the adjoining office. Ben and I
- 22:22Speaker 4: covered from the penny arcade directly opposite the shooting gallery.
- 22:25Speaker 4: Rickets and Powers were staked out two doors away at
- 22:28Speaker 4: a stand that advertised handwriting.
- 22:30Speaker 5: Analyzed twenty five cents. We waited.
- 22:33Speaker 4: Ben munched on a bag of popcorn. Ten thirty pm,
- 22:36Speaker 4: no sign of the suspect. Eleven o'clock still no sign.
- 22:47Speaker 5: Getting pretty cold. Everybody going home? Yeah? You got any
- 22:53Speaker 5: more of that popcorn? Here? Oh right, Harry, our field
- 22:55Speaker 5: pages left very good.
- 22:58Speaker 4: Must have been not much in there now. Oh I'm sorry.
- 23:00Speaker 4: I can get another bag machine right over there?
- 23:03Speaker 5: No turn it off?
- 23:05Speaker 12: How about some peanut? No, no thanks, I'm sure there's
- 23:08Speaker 12: something in there, Joe once son, No sure, I would
- 23:15Speaker 12: like to see brace show. Hate to spend the night
- 23:18Speaker 12: stake down here. Wait a minute, huh the shooting gallery.
- 23:23Speaker 12: The guy in the blue suits.
- 23:24Speaker 5: Talking to the manager. He's going around to the side door.
- 23:27Speaker 5: That money he's going inside.
- 23:32Speaker 1: All right, hold it right there.
- 23:33Speaker 5: Mister, don't watch it. Wick it, Kellny, come on the back.
- 23:36Speaker 5: I'll get the door. Want to hit it?
- 23:38Speaker 12: Yea?
- 23:41Speaker 11: What out the back?
- 23:42Speaker 5: Come on, hold it, Johnny's gone it.
- 23:46Speaker 17: Y'all good, Johnny okay, yeah, roughly, let's roll him over. Huh,
- 23:58Speaker 17: all right, how about it?
- 24:02Speaker 5: Joe short, dark complexion, fat? What do you think?
- 24:07Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's not Bray, Rickets, and Powers
- 24:13Speaker 4: remained on stakeout at the shooting gallery while Ben and
- 24:15Speaker 4: I took the suspect downtown along with the proprietor of
- 24:18Speaker 4: the shooting Gallery, Max Gridley. We had the man treated
- 24:21Speaker 4: for cuts and bruises at Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, and
- 24:24Speaker 4: we took him to the office. He identified himself as
- 24:26Speaker 4: Blake Chatfield, an unemployed salesman. After two hours of questioning,
- 24:30Speaker 4: he broke down and admitted that he was Bray's accomplice
- 24:33Speaker 4: in each of the eighteen robberies.
- 24:35Speaker 5: He drove the getaway car. He said for the past month.
- 24:38Speaker 4: He and Bray had been living in the office adjoining
- 24:40Speaker 4: the shooting Gallery, who was booked at the New City
- 24:42Speaker 4: Jail on suspicion of two eleven PC. Max Gridley was
- 24:46Speaker 4: held for further questioning one.
- 24:48Speaker 5: Th five am. We checked back in at the office. Yes,
- 24:53Speaker 5: I had too many hot dogs out there. You know
- 24:56Speaker 5: what's the matter? Oh, indigestion. Maybe it was the pop corn.
- 25:00Speaker 4: Yeah, m A couple of messages in the book. My
- 25:10Speaker 4: wife wants you to call him before you go home.
- 25:12Speaker 5: Uh huh Hello Amy? Yeah, long night?
- 25:27Speaker 17: Yeah, what.
- 25:29Speaker 12: Both for Graham? Brad Well, I'll try Okay here Hey
- 25:34Speaker 12: him by, same old thing.
- 25:37Speaker 18: Yeah, I get it.
- 25:41Speaker 5: Robbery Friday, Johnny Parr's Joe, Yeah, John, how's it going?
- 25:44Speaker 9: Gim me a brave Finally showed we got him any trouble, No,
- 25:46Speaker 9: drove up in a bright red coop.
- 25:48Speaker 5: Couldn't miss him. You coming in now? Yeah? Just leave him,
- 25:50Speaker 5: see you right, John Man? Well, I picked up Bray,
- 25:54Speaker 5: bring him in now. Good. Should have been a long
- 25:58Speaker 5: haul almost five months. Yeah, it's a long time. Hey Joe.
- 26:02Speaker 12: Yeah, where am I going to get a loaf of
- 26:04Speaker 12: Graham bread at this time in the morning?
- 26:13Speaker 2: The story you had just heard was true, only the
- 26:16Speaker 2: names were changed to protect the innocent.
- 26:28Speaker 5: James R.
- 26:29Speaker 3: Bray and Blake A. Chatfield were tried and convicted on
- 26:31Speaker 3: several counts of armed robbery and received sentences as prescribed
- 26:35Speaker 3: by law. Max Gridley was filed on for failure to
- 26:38Speaker 3: register as an ex convict. Bray and Chatfield are now
- 26:41Speaker 3: serving their terms in the state penitentiary. Technical advice for
- 26:47Speaker 3: Dragnet comes from the Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker,
- 26:50Speaker 3: Los Angeles Police.
- 26:51Speaker 2: Department, coming up with the people, then screen director Playhouse
- 27:00Speaker 2: on NBC.
- 27:07Speaker 1: Welcome Back. You expect confessing Sam's to show up for murders,
- 27:12Speaker 1: but grocery store robberies. Thankfully, they were able to dispense
- 27:16Speaker 1: with that guy really quickly. But one thing Dragon That's
- 27:20Speaker 1: always clear on is that those guys really do waste
- 27:23Speaker 1: time for the police. The way this episode ends violates
- 27:28Speaker 1: the listener's expectations, but I think enhances the feeling of
- 27:34Speaker 1: Dragnet's integrity. Even on a series like Tales of the
- 27:39Speaker 1: Texas Rangers, which tried to be authentic, Jace Pearson would
- 27:44Speaker 1: always be there for the big caller, but Dragon that
- 27:47Speaker 1: didn't always have that happen, because the reality for police
- 27:52Speaker 1: officers is that you're not the designated main character, and
- 27:56Speaker 1: sometimes another officer gets the caller and all you get
- 28:01Speaker 1: is indigestion for eating too much popcorn. Of course, this
- 28:05Speaker 1: leaves the episode's biggest question unanswered. Why did the criminal
- 28:10Speaker 1: choose red cars for his getaway cars? If I had
- 28:15Speaker 1: to guess based on him not having a prior record,
- 28:19Speaker 1: it seemed like he just didn't realize that this was
- 28:22Speaker 1: a problem. He just liked red cars asn't aside. I
- 28:27Speaker 1: do wonder if red is the absolute worst choice. It
- 28:31Speaker 1: seems like hot pink or a really bright orange would
- 28:36Speaker 1: also stand out, although I don't think they had cars
- 28:39Speaker 1: being manufactured in that color yet, although certainly I've seen
- 28:45Speaker 1: a lot of cars from later in the fifties that
- 28:47Speaker 1: certainly have the hot pink going for it. And then
- 28:51Speaker 1: we have a little line towards the end, which I'm
- 28:55Speaker 1: pretty sure I didn't even take note of the first
- 28:59Speaker 1: couple times that I played this episode, but which just
- 29:02Speaker 1: sent me down a rabbit trail, and that was Ben's
- 29:07Speaker 1: upcoming quest by Graham Bread. Now, given my last name,
- 29:12Speaker 1: you'd think I would have taken notice of that before,
- 29:15Speaker 1: but no, I'm pretty sure I didn't. Graham bread is
- 29:19Speaker 1: actually named for the Reverend Sylvester Graham, the father of
- 29:23Speaker 1: American vegetarianism and the inventor of the Graham cracker. He
- 29:29Speaker 1: was a nineteenth century minister who is often cited as
- 29:35Speaker 1: one of the first food fastest. He published his famous
- 29:39Speaker 1: book Treaties on Bread and Bread Making back in eighteen
- 29:43Speaker 1: thirty seven, which I'm sure everyone's read, which explained how
- 29:48Speaker 1: to make Graham bread, among other things, but it didn't
- 29:51Speaker 1: actually give precise portions as to how much of each
- 29:56Speaker 1: ingredient should go in, instead relying on the baker's good judgment.
- 30:01Speaker 1: This is why I'd never make gram bread using that recipe.
- 30:05Speaker 1: When it comes to guessing the appropriate amounts of ingredients
- 30:10Speaker 1: to go into a recipe, I have worse judgment than
- 30:14Speaker 1: our criminal did this week at picking cars. Now, in
- 30:17Speaker 1: terms of Ben's quest, I could not find gram bread
- 30:22Speaker 1: commercially available in our modern world at the usual places.
- 30:27Speaker 1: After doing a lot of searching, I found a bakery
- 30:31Speaker 1: in Illinois that offered their own take on gram bread
- 30:35Speaker 1: that you can buy. That'd be a bit of a
- 30:37Speaker 1: drive for me let alone. A twenty first century version
- 30:41Speaker 1: of ben Romero. But what about ten, nineteen fifty version
- 30:47Speaker 1: of ben Romero. I don't think there was widespread commercial availability.
- 30:53Speaker 1: I actually did a newspaper search to see if I
- 30:57Speaker 1: could find any ads for any store that mentioned gram
- 31:01Speaker 1: bread available, and I drew a total blank and again
- 31:05Speaker 1: searching in the Los Angeles area. So even in nineteen fifty,
- 31:10Speaker 1: if you could buy it commercially, it would be most
- 31:13Speaker 1: likely considered some sort of health food. You can imagine
- 31:16Speaker 1: poor Ben would be hard pressed to find it. You know,
- 31:20Speaker 1: you'd go to the all nights supermarkets and whatever sort
- 31:23Speaker 1: of stores would be open that time of night, and
- 31:26Speaker 1: spend an hour or so going through, and then have
- 31:30Speaker 1: to get up early in the morning and drive to
- 31:32Speaker 1: a health food store. I found an interesting blog post
- 31:35Speaker 1: by Renee Ryan, a historical romance writer who used to
- 31:39Speaker 1: write for a blog called Petticoats and Pistols, which is
- 31:43Speaker 1: focused on historical romance, particularly around the Old West, and
- 31:48Speaker 1: she said that you can actually get graham flower from
- 31:52Speaker 1: health food stores, and the special way that graham flower
- 31:57Speaker 1: is made is more true to the Old West way
- 32:01Speaker 1: of making flour. So if you want to get a
- 32:04Speaker 1: taste of the Old West, making some gram bread could
- 32:08Speaker 1: be helpful. She also shared a recipe which thankfully does
- 32:12Speaker 1: not rely on the baker having good judgment, and I
- 32:16Speaker 1: want to add an I linked her article in the
- 32:18Speaker 1: show notes, although there are plenty of gram bread recipes,
- 32:22Speaker 1: if you want to give it a try, and if
- 32:24Speaker 1: there are any bakers who made it and would like
- 32:29Speaker 1: to share their experience, I'd certainly welcome that. And if
- 32:32Speaker 1: you have any information on the commercial availability of gram
- 32:36Speaker 1: bread in nineteen fifty in the greater Los Angeles area,
- 32:41Speaker 1: then you have a highly specialized set of knowledge. Listener
- 32:44Speaker 1: comments and feedback. Now and we turn to YouTube, where
- 32:48Speaker 1: we have a couple comments regarding the Big Mother. Amanda writes,
- 32:53Speaker 1: this one was tough to listen to. An unfulfilled desire
- 32:57Speaker 1: can break your mind and spirit. A good outcome, but
- 33:00Speaker 1: nothing could make things right for either family. A good point, Amanda.
- 33:05Speaker 1: One thing that Dragnet says is that it follows the
- 33:08Speaker 1: case from crime to punishment, but oftentimes you're left with
- 33:13Speaker 1: unanswered questions which fall out of that perimeter. Certainly for
- 33:19Speaker 1: the woman who kidnapped the baby, you wonder what happens
- 33:23Speaker 1: to her next, and also for the family of the baby,
- 33:29Speaker 1: and you wonder what they end up doing about it.
- 33:32Speaker 1: Do they even tell the boy that he was briefly kidnapped,
- 33:39Speaker 1: passed off of somebody else's child, and baptized, maybe into
- 33:44Speaker 1: an entirely different church than the parents belonged to. My hunch,
- 33:48Speaker 1: particularly since there wasn't a criminal process that would require
- 33:54Speaker 1: them to testify or relive the situation, that they would
- 34:00Speaker 1: probably tend to just try to move on as if
- 34:02Speaker 1: it didn't happen. But I don't think that means that
- 34:06Speaker 1: it doesn't impact them. They might find themselves being very
- 34:10Speaker 1: overly protective of the boy for reasons they can't even explain.
- 34:15Speaker 1: So there would definitely be effects from this, even if
- 34:21Speaker 1: the family wasn't consciously aware of it. So just a
- 34:24Speaker 1: sad situation overall. And then Sarah writes, Dragnett was always
- 34:29Speaker 1: a good guidance in my life. Great entertainment. Well, thank
- 34:33Speaker 1: you so much, appreciate the comment. Now it's time to
- 34:36Speaker 1: thank our Patreon supporter of the day, and I want
- 34:39Speaker 1: to go ahead and think Liz. Liz has been one
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- 35:31Speaker 1: but this will also be the first episode that we'll
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- 35:42Speaker 1: Falcon Wear Just.
- 35:43Speaker 18: A minute, what four? I've heard the spiel twenty times.
- 35:46Speaker 18: I'm lovely sorry, Braddeck, but naturally we can't afford to
- 35:48Speaker 18: have an x con working for us.
- 35:50Speaker 5: Isn't that how it goes? Don't blame me, I'm just
- 35:53Speaker 5: an innocent bystander.
- 35:55Speaker 18: When did you get out?
- 35:56Speaker 5: What difference does it make? Well? Just humanly in forty nine.
- 36:00Speaker 5: We have he've been doing since getting kicked all over
- 36:03Speaker 5: the place.
- 36:04Speaker 3: You really been trying to go straight?
- 36:05Speaker 5: Would you believe it?
- 36:06Speaker 18: If I said, yes, Look, if you get your kicks
- 36:09Speaker 18: torturing people, that swell. But I don't think I have no, no, no, no,
- 36:11Speaker 18: I'm really interested. Well, I I was nineteen and I
- 36:17Speaker 18: pulled that job in Buffalo. It was the only crooked
- 36:20Speaker 18: thing I ever did. I threw him with a couple
- 36:23Speaker 18: of boys named Chuck Lewis and Willie Frank. How did
- 36:27Speaker 18: you know it's all down here?
- 36:30Speaker 5: I see you married? Yeah, three years ago. There's your
- 36:34Speaker 5: wife known everything.
- 36:37Speaker 18: I met her before I was sent up, and she waited, Yes,
- 36:41Speaker 18: that sounds like quite a girl. How is she going
- 36:44Speaker 18: to take this the way she's been taking it all along?
- 36:46Speaker 18: She won't complain, no pratic good. If I were to
- 36:52Speaker 18: forget about this for a while, what could I trust
- 36:55Speaker 18: you not to make me sorry? I'm wearing if you
- 36:57Speaker 18: give me this break, I swear you'll never regret it.
- 36:59Speaker 5: I hope not. Okay, fell I'll get back to work.
- 37:06Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime,
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- 37:23Speaker 1: This is your host, Adam Graham signing off.