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Fair Territory: Konnor Griffin Called Up! Who's Hot & Who's Not · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm
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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo and Alta. We can't
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Speaker 1: always say this when we open the show, but we
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Speaker 1: have big news this morning.
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Speaker 2: It is big news.
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Speaker 3: I wonder if it's just a week too late, but
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Speaker 3: it's good news nonetheless. Ken, if you are Connor Griffin,
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Speaker 3: the top prospect is baseball is getting a call up
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Speaker 3: to the Big Weaks.
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Speaker 1: He is nineteen years old, doesn't turn twenty until later
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Speaker 1: this month. This is a kid who I wrote about
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, quoting a team as saying,
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Speaker 1: in their model, the statistical projection model, they have him
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Speaker 1: as the top position player in baseball relative to the
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Speaker 1: surplus value he would provide, and Paul Skeins as the
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Speaker 1: top pitcher. This team also had him as a top shortstop,
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Speaker 1: even though he has yet to play an inning in
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Speaker 1: the major leagues. Again, we're talking about surplus value. Now
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Speaker 1: people are asking when is that extension coming. They've been
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Speaker 1: negotiating it, We've heard a lot about it. It won't
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Speaker 1: come if it does, it all, and I expect it
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Speaker 1: to until after he makes his debut Friday. Why because
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Speaker 1: once a player is in the major leagues. Once a
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Speaker 1: rookie is in the major leagues, and at that point,
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Speaker 1: if he signs an extension after that, his team becomes
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Speaker 1: eligible to receive a Prospect Promotion Incentive pick. And the
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Speaker 1: Pirates are doing this in time, promoting him in time,
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Speaker 1: and likely doing the extension in time to remain eligible
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Speaker 1: for that PPI pick. If you remember, they didn't do
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Speaker 1: that with schemes. They kept him in the minors longer,
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Speaker 1: and yet he qualified for a full year of service
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Speaker 1: time anyway, even though of course he was not in
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Speaker 1: the big leagues for a full year, but he won
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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year and that is what did it
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Speaker 1: for him. So they didn't get the pick, they cost
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Speaker 1: themselves a year of service time. With Griffin, they're going
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Speaker 1: to be in a much better place. This is a
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Speaker 1: kid Alana who looks like physically a young cow Ripken
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Speaker 1: body type, and he tore up the minor leagues. I
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Speaker 1: want to show you what he did statistically in the
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Speaker 1: minor leagues. Baseball America's JJ Cooper pointed out this morning,
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Speaker 1: this is one of the great minor league slash lines ever.
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Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty seven games last two years, three
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Speaker 1: thirty six four to twenty five thirty. That's the slash line.
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Speaker 1: Twenty one home runs in five hundred and eighty four
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Speaker 1: played appearances, and oh sixty eight stolen bases.
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Speaker 3: Alanna, I tell you what, he is a player that
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Speaker 3: already has a lot of eyes on him with great
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Speaker 3: expectations to follow.
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Speaker 2: He enjoyed speaking with him when he was on.
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Speaker 3: Foul territory when aj Pierzinski was at Buckos camp a
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. Ken, why now instead of just
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Speaker 3: allowing him to break camp with the big club? What
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Speaker 3: difference does nine ten days make a.
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Speaker 1: Lot of This is a very good question, And in
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Speaker 1: my view, I don't know why they held him down.
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Speaker 1: They're going to say I know this, I've heard this
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Speaker 1: from people there ready. Sending him down kind of relaxed him.
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Speaker 1: He got going a trip and now it's time. It
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Speaker 1: would have been fine time nine days ago. And yes,
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Speaker 1: they're doing it in time again so they can qualify
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Speaker 1: for that draft pick if he wins Rookie of the Year,
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Speaker 1: and that's no guarantee in a league with JJ Weatherhole
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Speaker 1: and South Stewart and other rookies also making a strong impact.
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Speaker 1: Already in the National League. But at the same time,
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Speaker 1: this kid has all the potential in the world. He
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Speaker 1: could be a difference maker for the Pirates, and I
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Speaker 1: kind of equate it to what's going on with the
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Speaker 1: Tigers now. The Tigers did not have a good series
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Speaker 1: in Arizona, but Kevin McGonagall has made a major difference
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Speaker 1: in their offense. Connor Griffin can do the same for Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 1: It's a lot to ask, of course already, but this
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Speaker 1: is a player they need. They spent money in the offseason,
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Speaker 1: they're actually trying. If you're actually trying, Connor Griffin has
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Speaker 1: to be.
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Speaker 3: On your team, and guys, don't forget to get your
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Speaker 3: questions in for Grill and Ken.
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Speaker 2: We're going to do that after the break.
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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, Ken, you said that they're
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Speaker 3: likely going to announce an extension for him after he
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Speaker 3: makes his major league debut. How close in your opinion
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Speaker 3: are the two sides on getting the amount that they're
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Speaker 3: going to want. I'm hearing that they want something alla
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Speaker 3: Roman Anthony type of contract in the one thirty range.
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Speaker 2: What more can you tell us about what he may get?
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Speaker 1: Right? Buster only reported that yesterday for ESPN that that
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Speaker 1: is the ask by Anthony. I'm sorry by Griffin's camp
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Speaker 1: one thirty or so. I don't know that they're that close,
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Speaker 1: but I don't know that they're that far apart. So
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Speaker 1: here's why I say that. Haven't heard in recent days
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Speaker 1: that this is heated up, but now I do expect
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Speaker 1: it to heat up. And obviously they've been negotiating for
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Speaker 1: quite some time. Each side knows the other's position. If
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Speaker 1: indeed the number is one thirty and the Pirates are
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Speaker 1: offering one ten, let's go. No need to mess around here.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be an eight year deal probably, and
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Speaker 1: we're talking about what two million per year or something
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Speaker 1: like that. So I don't expect this to be a problem.
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Speaker 1: I do expect it to get done in the way
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Speaker 1: of the Colt Emerson deal this week and to a
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Speaker 1: lesser extent, the Cooper Pratt deal. It's extension time, and
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Speaker 1: once the guy's in the big leagues, that's the time
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Speaker 1: to do it. We saw that last year with the
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Speaker 1: Red Sox and Christian Campbell didn't work out, or at
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Speaker 1: least hasn't worked out yet, but you do it after
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Speaker 1: they debut. In that way, you retain your right to
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Speaker 1: get that pick if the player is Rookie of the Year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that PPI that you were talking about. Let's get
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Speaker 3: More on Game Changer in a moment, can you briefly
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Speaker 3: mentioned that some extensions have already happened and you also
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Speaker 3: said on your athletic report that you expect more extensions
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Speaker 3: to be coming into the days, the weeks, and the months. Now,
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Speaker 3: why are some Major League Baseball teams ken willing to
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Speaker 3: offer long term deals to unproven top prospects and some
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Speaker 3: just don't seem to be able to do that or
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Speaker 3: want to do that?
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Speaker 1: Rather, I would say the majority do want to do that,
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Speaker 1: and the reason they want to do that a lot
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Speaker 1: It is ultimately to save money, and with the collector
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Speaker 1: of bargaining agreement expiring, there are motivations along those lines
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Speaker 1: as well. You always, as an owner want cost certainty.
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Speaker 1: There is a possibility in the next CVA that the
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Speaker 1: length of time before a player becomes a free agent
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Speaker 1: will be reduced. That would be something that Major League
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Speaker 1: Baseball could dangle in order to get the players to
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Speaker 1: potentially agree to a salary cap. So if you're locking
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Speaker 1: up a guy now for additional years. Well, if crea
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Speaker 1: agency is going to four or five years, I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying it's going to I'm just saying this is a
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Speaker 1: potential outcome, then you're winning in an even bigger way.
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Speaker 1: So it's all about cost certainty. It's all about getting
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Speaker 1: players to sign below market deals. Some teams are less willing.
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Speaker 1: Buster Posey in my article is quoted as saying, hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure about this. It's a little risky.
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Speaker 1: And it is. There are players that ultimately do not succeed.
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Speaker 1: Scott Kingery, Evan White, Jonathan Singleton. There have been players
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Speaker 1: who signed these extensions and ultimately did not prove the money.
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Speaker 1: But the vast majority, from ronald' kunya to Josemirez to
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Speaker 1: all kinds of players, the vast majority it does payoff.
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Speaker 1: And that's why teams are so willing to do it.
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Speaker 1: And I trust even with a Roman Anthony one hundred
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Speaker 1: and thirty million, Okay, big deal. Well, Roman Anthony should
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Speaker 1: prove worth that and much more. And that's what the
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Speaker 1: owners are looking for. They're looking for the surplus value,
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Speaker 1: the production of the player to exceed what he is
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Speaker 1: getting paid.
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Speaker 3: A lot of folks think in Roman Anthony perhaps left
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Speaker 3: a lot of money on the table Ken taking that
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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty million dollar deal.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 3: And one final section that we're starting here on the
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Speaker 3: show with the Lead Ken is who's hot and who
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Speaker 3: is not?
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Speaker 2: Team wise?
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Speaker 3: The hot starts and the below average slow starts for teams?
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Speaker 2: Who are we starting with?
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Speaker 1: All right, allta, Now, We're going to take a mature,
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Speaker 1: measured approach here. We're one week into the season. We're
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Speaker 1: not going to get carried away. But I just want
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Speaker 1: to point out some things that at least have stood
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Speaker 1: out in the first week. Number one, who else the
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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers. Right away, they are right out of the gate.
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Speaker 1: Fifteen stolen bases, most in the majors in six games,
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Speaker 1: averaging seven point five runs per game in six games.
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Speaker 1: Strikeouts by their pitching staff seventy six in six games.
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Speaker 1: Here come the brew Crew yet again, coming off two
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Speaker 1: strong performances, one against the White Sox and then the
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Speaker 1: other against the Tampa Bay Rays. The Yankees pitching it's
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Speaker 1: been incredible. They've allowed six runs six runs in six games,
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Speaker 1: and they did it on the road in San Francisco
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Speaker 1: and Seattle. Pretty impressive. Houston Astros lost their first two
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Speaker 1: to the Angels, if you remember, at home, and since
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Speaker 1: then have won five straight against the Angels and the
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Speaker 1: Red Sox, averaging eight point six runs per game. We
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Speaker 1: knew their offense was good, their rotations, I wouldn't say
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Speaker 1: it's a work in progress, but I want to see
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Speaker 1: more out of that group. Then they're the Texas Rangers,
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Speaker 1: and this, to me might be the biggest surprise is
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Speaker 1: not the right word, but the biggest statement made by
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Speaker 1: a team this week four and two on the road
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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and Baltimore. Andrew McCutcheon, Danny Jansen, Brandon Nimo,
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Speaker 1: new veterans joining this team. They've brought a certain energy.
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Speaker 1: This team has a tremendous rotation. They might be in
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Speaker 1: skip Shrewmacher's first season better than people thought. And finally
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Speaker 1: let's go to Miami, the Miami Marlins five and one. Now,
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Speaker 1: admittedly it's against the Rockies and the White Sox, so
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Speaker 1: you got to put a little bit of an asterisk
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Speaker 1: on it and we'll know more after they go to
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Speaker 1: New York to open the Yankees home schedule against the
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Speaker 1: New York Yankees. But the Marlins with Sandy al Contra,
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Speaker 1: they're pitching staff. I have thought all along they have
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Speaker 1: a chance to be somewhat of a surprise team. Say
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Speaker 1: nothing yet to diminish that thought. So those are the
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Speaker 1: hot ones along, at least so far.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Saniel Contrero with a complete game shutout Kennon in
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Speaker 3: front of about sixty six hundred people that didn't really
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Speaker 3: get to see, unfortunately, his greatness on the mound. What
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Speaker 3: about those teams that are not hot right now? Let's
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Speaker 3: start with the Boston Red Sox.
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Speaker 1: Let's start with the Boston Red Sox, and I've been
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Speaker 1: worried about their offense and yet to start the season,
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Speaker 1: they haven't pitched all that well either. Check this out.
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Speaker 1: Twenty eighth in run scored, twenty sixth in ERA. That's
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Speaker 1: a bottom five team in both categories. Not great for
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Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox. The Sacramento West, Sacramento, Las Vegas,
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Speaker 1: Oakland as they are one in five now they are
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Speaker 1: one in five even though Shay Langeleres has hit five
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Speaker 1: home runs to lead the Majors. They're one in five. Also,
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Speaker 1: they had a tough schedule to start in Toronto, in Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: I'll give them a little bit of a break. They're
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Speaker 1: gonna be good, at least offensively. And then two teams
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Speaker 1: in the NL West under new managers, the Padres and
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Speaker 1: the Giants, both started off two and four, just got
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Speaker 1: done with the series against each other. Padre's rotation questions,
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Speaker 1: no doubt. Giants, I'm still not convinced totally by their offense.
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Speaker 1: Certainly their bullpen is a problem. So we'll see how
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Speaker 1: these teams play. And then I'll look at the Phillies
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Speaker 1: and the Mets. Now they're going to be fine, but
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Speaker 1: both started the season three and three, annoying their fans
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Speaker 1: to say the least. And the Phillies they were home
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Speaker 1: against Texas and Washington. Finally got a win yesterday against Washington,
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Speaker 1: the otherwise would have been two and four. And then
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Speaker 1: the Mets they opened it home against Pittsburgh and then
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Speaker 1: go to Saint Louis, two teams they theoretically should be
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Speaker 1: able to handle and yet go only three and three.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very uninspired baseball. If you're looking at the Phillies
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Speaker 3: and the Mets. A lot of teams that we didn't
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Speaker 3: think would be slow starters are in fact on that
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Speaker 3: Not So hotless. We're gonna have much more to come
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Speaker 3: questions from our fans, our viewers, the chat group.
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Speaker 2: We appreciate your participation. Zay Z Reviews. Has this one
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Speaker 2: to kick things off?
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Speaker 3: Ken, It's been a disaster start in Boston, just talking
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Speaker 3: about that. In your opinion, do you think Breslo or
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Speaker 3: Cora lasts till the end of the week that's a
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Speaker 3: little rough before they are fired?
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Speaker 2: And is their.
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Speaker 3: Season over come on? It's been six games these reviews.
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Speaker 1: All right, Alana. First of all, I am confident that
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Speaker 1: Alex Cora and Craig Breslow will retain their jobs through
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Speaker 1: this week and after this week, and even through the
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Speaker 1: first half of the season, even the entire season. Now,
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Speaker 1: the Red Sox are an interesting case study. The problem
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Speaker 1: I've had with their off season has been that they
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Speaker 1: essentially are telling Roman Anthony without telling him this, Hey man,
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Speaker 1: you've got to be David Ortiz. You've got to be
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Speaker 1: what David Ortiz was to the previous teams. Now they
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Speaker 1: would say that's not true. We've got William Obreu, the
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Speaker 1: one guy who's off to a hot start. We've got others,
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Speaker 1: will Wilson Contraras in the mix, of course, other good hitters.
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Speaker 1: Trevor Story. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. You've lost Evers,
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Speaker 1: you've lost Bregman, and in my view, they still haven't
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Speaker 1: found the additional thumper that they need, and that is
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Speaker 1: the deficiency I see in the team. We'll see maybe
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Speaker 1: he plays out really well for them, and with Durand
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Speaker 1: and all the different pieces that they have, maybe they
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Speaker 1: ultimately put together a really dynamic offense. It just seems
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Speaker 1: to me they're asking a lot of some young players
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Speaker 1: and that's not always a good equation.
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Speaker 3: And Ken for a team that led the league and
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Speaker 3: errors last year, wanting to clean that up. So far
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Speaker 3: that has not been the case defensively for the Socks.
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Speaker 3: Sarah Harmon, nineteen seventy four. Ken, now that Connor Griffin
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Speaker 3: is coming up to the show, who do you see
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Speaker 3: being the next couple of high impact prospects who will
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Speaker 3: make the jump?
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Speaker 1: Wow? Good question, Sarah, And Frankly, most of the big
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Speaker 1: ones are in the majors right now, and we've seen
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Speaker 1: this Weather, Holt, McGonagall, Stewart the latter right down the line. Now,
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Speaker 1: there are some others I'm sure that will get promoted
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Speaker 1: this year and we'll see them, but I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: they were who necessarily is next in line. Colt Emerson
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Speaker 1: from Seattle would be one to watch for sure. Now
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Speaker 1: he just got the extension eight years, ninety five million,
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Speaker 1: and he is in a spot where the Mariners have
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Speaker 1: Jp Crawford a shortstop. They're set pretty much around the
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Speaker 1: diamond and there will be an opening at some point.
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Speaker 1: I don't know when it will be. They've got Brendan
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Speaker 1: Donovan now on the team, but Colt Emerson was not
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Speaker 1: signed to an eight year, ninety five million dollars or
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Speaker 1: contract to languish in the minor leagues. He'll be there
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Speaker 1: at some point.
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Speaker 3: Steve Parlay Parlee seventy six, forty eight, Hey, Ken, Should
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Speaker 3: the Jays be worried about the starting rotation after losing
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Speaker 3: Cody Ponce on Monday and three others now on the
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Speaker 3: il from.
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Speaker 1: An injury perspective, yes, no question. And Beaver's not yet there,
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Speaker 1: Barrios is not yet there. They've been without you Savage
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Speaker 1: of course, and now Ponce, but some of those pitchers
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Speaker 1: are going to return in due time. And what we've
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Speaker 1: seen so far from Gossman, from Cease, from Scherzer, it's
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Speaker 1: been pretty good. Eric Lauer as well, it's been really
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Speaker 1: good in fact, and the strikeout potential of that staff
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Speaker 1: is much greater than it's been in the past. The rotation,
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Speaker 1: I mean, and assuming some of these guys get healthy,
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Speaker 1: Pince I know might be out for the year. They
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Speaker 1: should be.
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Speaker 3: Okay, it was so tough to watch when he went down. Okay,
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Speaker 3: another question here. This is a super chat. We appreciate
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Speaker 3: it very much, Daniel Doctor, nineteen nineteen five bucks for
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Speaker 3: the show. Jim Bowden said he'd take Yankees' top four
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Speaker 3: prospects for Skeins, of course, of the Pirates last year.
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Speaker 3: If he were the Pirates, this person, Daniel disagrees. I
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Speaker 3: want MLB proven talent. He'd like to know your thoughts
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Speaker 3: on it.
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Speaker 1: I want MLB proven talent too, and that package would
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Speaker 1: have to start with Cam Schlitler. And the Yankees are
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Speaker 1: not trading Cam Schlitler, who might be a lesser version
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Speaker 1: of Paul Skeins, and that might even be selling him short.
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Speaker 1: Cam Schlittler looks really good. So yes, the Pirates are
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Speaker 1: going to be tempted in the next couple of years
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Speaker 1: with all kinds of packages for Skiens. They were, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure tempted in the offseason as well. But with the
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Speaker 1: promotion of Griffin, with the additions of A Hearne and
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Speaker 1: Brandon Lowe and a Zuna and all the things that
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Speaker 1: they are doing. Now, what they are trying to do
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Speaker 1: as best as the Pirates can is win with Skeens,
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Speaker 1: and that should be their motivation for at least the
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Speaker 1: next few years. Now, once you get closer to free agency,
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Speaker 1: if the team is not what you want it to be, yes,
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Speaker 1: of course you consider a trade because most likely under
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Speaker 1: the current system anywhere, you're not going to resign him,
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Speaker 1: so the Yankees can offer their whole farm system, the Dodgers,
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Speaker 1: these teams are going to do that. But if I'm
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Speaker 1: the Pirates, I'm trying to win with what is absolutely
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Speaker 1: a unicorn of a starting pitcher.
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Speaker 3: Kenn This is not a question in the chat. This
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Speaker 3: is more for me. I guess why the need to
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Speaker 3: or the want to sign Connor Griffin to a long
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Speaker 3: term extension, But it's not there for Paul Skeens. Is
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Speaker 3: that an agent situation is that let's get this kid
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Speaker 3: to free agency because we know he's going to get
18:01
Speaker 3: a lot more money. I mean, why does it make
18:04
Speaker 3: sense for Connor Griffin, but it doesn't make sense for
18:06
Speaker 3: the best picture in the game.
18:08
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Pirates would love to sign Paul Skins
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Speaker 1: to an extension, but it takes two to tango, and
18:13
Speaker 1: clearly the player has to be motivated to do it.
18:16
Speaker 1: And also keep in mind with Paul Skins, he's going
18:20
Speaker 1: to want a wait for Schoobls deal right and beyond that,
18:24
Speaker 1: it's going to cost three or four times what Connor
18:27
Speaker 1: Griffin is going to cost to retain Paul Skins. Maybe
18:30
Speaker 1: that's a little bit of an exaggeration. He's not even
18:33
Speaker 1: eligible for arbitration yet, but you get what I'm saying.
18:35
Speaker 1: The free agent years alone would be forty five million
18:38
Speaker 1: fifty million a year, I would think. So the Pirates
18:42
Speaker 1: have money that they can spend, or at least that
18:45
Speaker 1: they're willing to spend. I don't know that they're willing
18:48
Speaker 1: to spend what it would be what would be necessary
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Speaker 1: for them to retain Paul Skin's.
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Speaker 2: Long term Zaz Reviews once again.
18:56
Speaker 3: Final question on Grill and Ken here. With the lockout
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Speaker 3: looming at the end of the season, could we see
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Speaker 3: teams willing to trade big contracts at the deadline? Ken
19:06
Speaker 3: so they're off the books come to lockout.
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Speaker 1: It's a good question, and I would think that you
19:14
Speaker 1: might see some of that. But keep in mind, and
19:17
Speaker 1: I've heard this from a couple of teams in recent days,
19:20
Speaker 1: you can't assume anything with the CBA. You can't assume
19:23
Speaker 1: there's going to be a salary cap. You can't assume
19:25
Speaker 1: there's not going to be a salary cap. You can't
19:27
Speaker 1: assume we're going to be playing in twenty twenty seven
19:29
Speaker 1: the entire season. So essentially teams are operating in the dark.
19:33
Speaker 1: And if I were a GM, and of course I'm not,
19:37
Speaker 1: but I would think the way most of them are
19:39
Speaker 1: thinking is that, you know, we have no idea, so
19:43
Speaker 1: let's operate as we would normally operate. And yes, if
19:47
Speaker 1: you want to clear big contracts if you're a bad
19:50
Speaker 1: team or you're a disappointing team, of course, but you
19:52
Speaker 1: would be doing that anyway. So I don't know that
19:55
Speaker 1: the expiration of the CBA on December first has a
19:58
Speaker 1: meaningful impact on that.
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Speaker 3: All right, thanks everybody for getting those questions in. For
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Speaker 3: Girl and Ken, We're going to talk about Dude and
20:05
Speaker 3: Dork of the Week right after this break.
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Speaker 5: Dude, dude, dude.
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Speaker 2: All right, Ken, I'll have you go first, of course,
20:33
Speaker 2: on your Dude of the week. Who is it.
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Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot about prospects, and this guy
20:39
Speaker 1: was not necessarily a top one hundred. He wasn't even
20:42
Speaker 1: a top ten in his organization, even a top twenty.
20:45
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Jose Fernandez of the Arizona Diamondbacks. This
20:49
Speaker 1: dude gets called up and on Tuesday, in his major
20:52
Speaker 1: league debut, hole run off Casey Maize in the fourth inning,
20:56
Speaker 1: and then with two outs in the eighth, the Diamondbacks
20:59
Speaker 1: down by run to the Tigers, a two out, three run,
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Speaker 1: go ahead shot off Kenlee Jansen. Welcome to the major leagues,
21:07
Speaker 1: Jose Fernandez, and you are the Dude of the week.
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Speaker 2: I love that.
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Speaker 3: I see that, and I raise you two gentlemen that
21:13
Speaker 3: are playing this game right now, the game that we love.
21:16
Speaker 2: Ken with heavy hearts.
21:18
Speaker 3: Dominic Smith, of course of the Atlanta Braves, just recently
21:22
Speaker 3: lost his mom. Hits a grand slam as a brave.
21:26
Speaker 3: He is certainly my dude of the week, obviously thinking
21:29
Speaker 3: about mama round in the bas is good for him.
21:31
Speaker 3: I also want to talk about Josh Low kind of
21:34
Speaker 3: says his mom, of course passed away unfortunately after dealing
21:39
Speaker 3: with brain cancer. He and Nathaniel Lowe, of course, their mom,
21:43
Speaker 3: Wendy passed away, and he hit a three run home
21:47
Speaker 3: run his first is an angel, kind of points to
21:49
Speaker 3: the sky pounds us just that one certainly was for
21:52
Speaker 3: his mom as well. So Dominic Smith and Josh Low,
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Speaker 3: you are my dudes of the week.
21:57
Speaker 2: All right.
21:57
Speaker 3: Time now for our dorks of the week. We'll be
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Speaker 3: right back after this front end, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, Ken, who is your Who's your dork of the week?
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Speaker 1: All right? I can't believe I'm saying this, and I
22:13
Speaker 1: trust that this will be the only time this player
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Speaker 1: is ever dork of the week. Francisco Lindor is actually
22:19
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. He should be one of everyone's favorites,
22:22
Speaker 1: but he had a really bad day. It would have
22:25
Speaker 1: been kind of a rough start for him obviously coming
22:28
Speaker 1: off the Hamad surgery. That's possibly the reason Corbyn Carrol
22:32
Speaker 1: had the same surgery. He's on fire anyway, Francis Hill.
22:35
Speaker 1: Lindor on Wednesday gets picked off, and not only that,
22:39
Speaker 1: he forgets the number of outs and he costs his
22:42
Speaker 1: pitcher a few pitches Freddy Peralta, and he said afterward,
22:47
Speaker 1: he owned up to it, said that was unacceptable, and
22:50
Speaker 1: he's right, obviously, he can't forget the number of outs.
22:52
Speaker 1: The pickoff the Mets were more forgiving of because they thought, well,
22:56
Speaker 1: he's trying to get a lead. He was stealing on
22:58
Speaker 1: the pitch with Soto up and didn't work out, okay.
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Speaker 1: But for Lindor, a guy who is so savvy, so
23:05
Speaker 1: good at playing the game is what baseball people say.
23:08
Speaker 1: He is so instinctive on the field. It was just
23:12
Speaker 1: shocking to see. And I'm sure, like I said, he
23:15
Speaker 1: will not be dork of the Week ever again. But
23:18
Speaker 1: he is dork of the week for that and not
23:20
Speaker 1: for any of the other things. Met fans are accusing
23:22
Speaker 1: him of the problems with Soto and all of that. No, no,
23:26
Speaker 1: no out. Stuff on the field is what matters, and
23:29
Speaker 1: what mattered here yesterday was meaningful in the game.
23:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a little bit of a joke there.
23:34
Speaker 3: Some folks in our chat were saying that he got
23:36
Speaker 3: picked off on purpose, Ken, so he could rob one
23:39
Speaker 3: Soto of an RBI because they hate each other that much. Obviously,
23:43
Speaker 3: that is it was a rookie mistake, a boneheaded move
23:47
Speaker 3: for a veteran player. All right, My dork of the
23:49
Speaker 3: week is the Boston Red Sox as an organization as
23:52
Speaker 3: a whole. How in the world do you win your
23:54
Speaker 3: first game and then lose a five straight. I'm not
23:57
Speaker 3: the only one that's wondering Ken, because ris x Dash
24:00
Speaker 3: eighteen in our chat says, health, what's going on with
24:04
Speaker 3: the Red Sox?
24:05
Speaker 2: Ken? What is going on with the Red Sox? Kenny?
24:07
Speaker 2: They can't get off to the slow start.
24:09
Speaker 3: Garrett Crochet has not been good at Dykin Park, obviously
24:13
Speaker 3: home of the Houston Astros.
24:14
Speaker 2: That's who you count on.
24:15
Speaker 3: And they're not even winning with Crochet on the bump
24:17
Speaker 3: the second time through.
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Speaker 1: It's a slow start. I'm not sure I read anything
24:22
Speaker 1: more into it. And as we had that earlier question
24:24
Speaker 1: about Cora and Breslow getting fired, No, that's not happening again.
24:28
Speaker 1: I'll repeat myself. I am concerned, as I said earlier,
24:31
Speaker 1: about their offense, and I'm just not sure it's going
24:35
Speaker 1: to play out the way they think it's going to
24:36
Speaker 1: play out. But they're pitching enter the season supposedly as
24:41
Speaker 1: a strength. I still expect it to be a strength
24:43
Speaker 1: with Crochet. I expect Rangers Suarez to be really good,
24:46
Speaker 1: and I expect some other things as well to happen
24:48
Speaker 1: with that staff that will click. But yeah, it's a
24:51
Speaker 1: slow start, and in markets like New York and Philadelphia
24:55
Speaker 1: and Boston, when there's a slow start, it's not the
24:57
Speaker 1: same as it is in a market West Sacramento, just
25:01
Speaker 1: to name one.
25:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, West Sacramento. I love that.
25:04
Speaker 3: Yes, and they are off today the Red Sox are
25:07
Speaker 3: they finally start a homestand tomorrow they need they need
25:10
Speaker 3: something good cooking at Fenway. Well, if you're watching on TV,
25:13
Speaker 3: we are going to see you guys next week. Thank
25:15
Speaker 3: you so much for being here. We have a couple
25:16
Speaker 3: more minutes for the YouTube crowd right after this. All right,
25:26
Speaker 3: if you're still with us, that means you're watching us
25:27
Speaker 3: on YouTube. Thanks so much for being here. Ken, What
25:30
Speaker 3: is your game upcoming this weekend? And hopefully you get
25:34
Speaker 3: it in with no delays.
25:36
Speaker 1: My game is in Cleveland in obviously progressive field, and
25:41
Speaker 1: the Cubs are visiting the Guardians, and it's an interesting
25:44
Speaker 1: game in any number of ways. One because the Cubs,
25:47
Speaker 1: of course, have invested a ton into their team four
25:50
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty one million combined for Bregman, for Horner
25:53
Speaker 1: and Pete Crow Armstrong. The Guardians, of course are doing
25:56
Speaker 1: their low revenue thing. They did hardly anything in the
26:00
Speaker 1: off season. But one of the reasons that they were
26:02
Speaker 1: so inactive is because they want to keep creating opportunity
26:06
Speaker 1: for younger players. Chase the Laughter pretty good young player
26:10
Speaker 1: from what we've seen so far for home runs. Hopefully
26:12
Speaker 1: his foot is okay. Did not play yesterday. He is
26:15
Speaker 1: expected back. The Guardian's home opener is tomorrow, and yes,
26:18
Speaker 1: there is weather threats all weekend, but we'll see what happens.
26:22
Speaker 1: And one more point about the Cubs, and we go
26:24
Speaker 1: back to the Cooper Pratt extension with Milwaukee. People ask
26:27
Speaker 1: why are they doing? Is this kid at a six
26:29
Speaker 1: ninety one ops in Double A hasn't shown he can
26:32
Speaker 1: hit even in Double A, and he's getting fifty million dollars. Well,
26:37
Speaker 1: the Brewer's logic is, we can't spend like the Cubs.
26:40
Speaker 1: We have to place smaller bets. That's what the Cooper
26:44
Speaker 1: Pratt extension is. That's what the Jackson Curio extension was.
26:47
Speaker 1: We'll see how it works out. But the Brewers always
26:50
Speaker 1: seem to figure it out. It's amazing to me every year,
26:54
Speaker 1: including this year. I thought maybe this is the year
26:58
Speaker 1: they're not going to be very good. And granted they've
27:01
Speaker 1: played weaker opponents, but they're off to a great start
27:04
Speaker 1: and they look like they're going to be a very
27:06
Speaker 1: dangerous team again.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, five and one, Ken, and they're doing it without
27:10
Speaker 3: Jackson Trail right now, and Andrew Vaughan as well, both
27:13
Speaker 3: on the il. Well, that's it for us. Foul Territory
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Speaker 3: is next. Chris Catillo, JJ Cooper, and Isaac zout joined
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Speaker 3: AJ and Kratz and Scott Ron Dodgers Territory with myself
27:23
Speaker 3: and Clinton CS follows that. Ken Rosenthal is back on
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Speaker 3: Monday with fair Territory.
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Speaker 2: Have a great weekend. Everybody will see then