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LNC Melts in the Georgia Heat · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome to the Largener Drunk Flighter podcast, a
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Kasten, and with me as always is the
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  Speaker 1: brilliant Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: We both fell for it, Ariel.
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  Speaker 1: What did we fall for?
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  Speaker 2: The oldest scam in the book, the dragon con. Because
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  Speaker 2: we're both dragon now. No, I wasn't there. I'm dragon
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  Speaker 2: because I walk too much.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I also walked too much at Dragon Con.
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  Speaker 1: Not as much as I expected, but that's okay. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you did some crazy hiking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I recently got a new Android phone. I've
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  Speaker 2: been using Android phones for years and years, but I
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  Speaker 2: got a new one. And I found my old Pixel
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  Speaker 2: 3 Google Watch, which I had not been wearing for ages.
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  Speaker 2: Got a new charger for it, charged it up, started
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  Speaker 2: wearing it. All right. Let me tell you what these
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  Speaker 2: I almost dropped an F-bomb. Let me tell you what
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  Speaker 2: these flipping what these flipping things have been telling me
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  Speaker 2: to do. So, you know, these watches can track things
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  Speaker 2: like your heart rate and and, you know, step counter
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  Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff. And because the new Android
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  Speaker 2: phones have like an AI assistant built into them. It's like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: would you like me to help you set goals like
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  Speaker 2: fitness goals? I'm thinking like, you know what? Yes, because
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  Speaker 2: I would like to actually lose some weight, get in
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  Speaker 2: better shape. And I've been doing some of that myself,
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  Speaker 2: but I know I could be more effective. And if
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  Speaker 2: I have something that can help motivate me and keep
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  Speaker 2: me on track and perhaps quantify stuff, maybe I'll do better.
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  Speaker 2: And it told me that I needed to walk 18
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  Speaker 2: miles last week total. And by the time I was
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  Speaker 2: going into Saturday, which is how they end the week,
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  Speaker 2: It was like, you still have 10 miles to go.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I'm not going to hit 10 miles,
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  Speaker 2: but I can at least put a dent in it
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  Speaker 2: by walking to, if you're not familiar with Atlanta, there's
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  Speaker 2: a town within the perimeter of Atlanta called Decatur. And
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  Speaker 2: so I walked to Decatur with the promise that I
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  Speaker 2: would get myself ice cream and then I would walk back.
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  Speaker 2: What I did not count on was that it was
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  Speaker 2: 101 heat index day. Uh, the walk there, I chose
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  Speaker 2: a route that had like next to no shade. So
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  Speaker 2: it was pretty brutal. I did carry ice water with me,
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  Speaker 2: which was a good idea, but I definitely felt, uh,
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  Speaker 2: spent by the time I got to the ice cream place.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was like, now I have to walk back. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and I walked back probably three quarters of the way,
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  Speaker 2: but then as I was walking through a park, like
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  Speaker 2: a wooded park, uh, the wind suddenly picked up and
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  Speaker 2: then almost like, like comedically immediately after the wind picked up,
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  Speaker 2: I got an alert on my phone saying heavy thunderstorms
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  Speaker 2: rolling into the area. And I'm like, yeah, it's time
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  Speaker 2: to Uber the rest of the way. Even though I
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  Speaker 2: was only maybe 15 or 20 minutes away, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to risk this. So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It was. So I, I went to dragon
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  Speaker 1: con for a little bit, uh, mainly cause I was
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  Speaker 1: performing on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. And, um, I decided
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  Speaker 1: to Marta down because I hate driving through Atlanta on
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  Speaker 1: a good day. And when it's full of people and
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  Speaker 1: you have to find parking and you like the parking
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  Speaker 1: I was finding through, apparently there are several parking decks
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  Speaker 1: that are not on like the park mobile app kind
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  Speaker 1: of things, which is what Dragon Con says to use.
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  Speaker 1: But like looking through those apps, nothing was close. That
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  Speaker 1: was under $ 50. And I'm like, yeah, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to pay that much money for a day. And also
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  Speaker 1: still have to walk in the heat, right? Like the
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  Speaker 1: benefit of parking down there would be nullifying. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: so I marted. Marta was not up to the heat.
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  Speaker 1: By the time I got off the train, my back
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  Speaker 1: was soaked through every single day. And they're like, please
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  Speaker 1: don't drink and eat on Marta trains. Well, you need
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  Speaker 1: water on a day like today. But also, side note.
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  Speaker 1: If you are riding Marta on a very hot day,
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  Speaker 1: make sure that your nether regions are not directly touching
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  Speaker 1: the seats. You will leave prints and people will know.
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  Speaker 2: Yikes. Marta, for those who do not know, is our
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  Speaker 2: light rail transit area in the Atlanta area.
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  Speaker 1: But also, the hotels weren't up to it. Usually, DragonCon,
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  Speaker 1: I'm cold in the hotels, even if there's a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of people. I was sweltering the entire time And one
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  Speaker 1: of the hotels had to cancel a few events because
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  Speaker 1: their AC just wasn't up to the task and it
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  Speaker 1: was getting too hot. It seems like there were a
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  Speaker 1: few kerfuffles this year. Now, a lot of the friends,
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  Speaker 1: because I wasn't there much, it was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the kerfuffles I saw on social media. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people complaining on social media is different than
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  Speaker 1: actually being there. So a bunch of my friends were like,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, this is a normal con. But like Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: Hyatt had water leaking from the ceiling from like, it
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  Speaker 1: looked like a little waterfall in front of check-in.
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  Speaker 2: Yikes. Not a good look.
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  Speaker 1: No, the line to get badges was super long, which
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  Speaker 1: it's been super long in the past, right? But that's
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  Speaker 1: not a complete unknown. But everybody was.
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  Speaker 2: Because they were all waiting out in the heat, it
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  Speaker 2: was worse.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. It was a very long line. It was
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  Speaker 1: out in the sun. It was an exceptionally hot year.
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  Speaker 1: And also everybody got there Thursday and people are wearing
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  Speaker 1: their cosplays to get badges. Like I understand Thursday, Thursday
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  Speaker 1: sold out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Thursday isn't even full programming. There's just some light,
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  Speaker 1: light programming and people checking in. And usually used to
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  Speaker 1: be that Friday was just light programming. You didn't really
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  Speaker 1: get anything till the afternoon, but I'm like, I guess
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  Speaker 1: some people were in cosplay because they were there just
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  Speaker 1: for the day, which doesn't make sense to me for
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  Speaker 1: what goes on on a Thursday. Okay. But also, like,
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  Speaker 1: don't wear your cosplay to get your patch.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing. If they only had Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: then chances are they didn't have any place where they
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  Speaker 2: could go change.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So it's either don't wear cosplay at all, or you
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  Speaker 2: have to deal with the... sit standing in line while
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  Speaker 2: wearing your cosplay because you have nowhere else to put
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  Speaker 2: it and so i really feel i feel for those
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  Speaker 2: people because like there's some people who i think get
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  Speaker 2: a thursday ticket because it's probably the cheapest day thursday
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  Speaker 2: or monday would probably be the cheapest days uh and
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot of people who show up on
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  Speaker 2: wednesdays now in order to like check in and everything
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  Speaker 2: and just get out of the way but but badge
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  Speaker 2: pickup isn't open on wednesday And so I saw people
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  Speaker 2: calling for badge pickup to start earlier in the week,
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  Speaker 2: but everyone was like, well, if that happens, all you've
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  Speaker 2: done is shift the traffic one day earlier. You're going
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  Speaker 2: to still have too many people going on that one day,
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  Speaker 2: and you're going to have the same issues. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what the solution is. There were people who were
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  Speaker 2: saying mail the badges, but then DragonCon's always been kind
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  Speaker 2: of concerned about counterfeiting and scalping, that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: And there were others who were like, make sure that
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  Speaker 2: you have badge pickup stations in each of the hotels.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not in a centralized location, which I think
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  Speaker 2: would work if you, but you just couldn't have it.
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  Speaker 2: Like everyone was like, put it up with a, with
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  Speaker 2: hotel check. And I'm like, that's the, that's the hotel.
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  Speaker 2: That's not dragon gone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. They're like, like me, there are lots of
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  Speaker 1: local people that don't get a hotel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But you would, but you would go to the
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  Speaker 2: hotel to go and pick up the thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, but like, it makes sense if you're checking
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  Speaker 1: in to also get your badge with it, but also
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  Speaker 1: like that, that could make sense. But for everybody who like,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to back up hotel check-in for everybody who
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  Speaker 1: actually has a room.
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  Speaker 2: That's why you don't put it with check-in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You would have to have it as a set, like
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  Speaker 2: have a separate, like have a conference room dedicated just
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  Speaker 2: for badge pickup for each hotel. That would be the
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  Speaker 2: only way I could think of. And you would have
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  Speaker 2: to have it have a really good, robust room. network
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  Speaker 2: between the different points of contact so that every time
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  Speaker 2: someone got a badge like it, it blacklisted the name
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  Speaker 2: off the master list.
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  Speaker 1: And you'd also need more. You need triple the volunteers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially. But I think triple the volunteers is better
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  Speaker 2: than like 20 or 30 people passed out on the road.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing is if they can get them, they're volunteers.
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  Speaker 1: So they you know, I don't know how many people
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  Speaker 1: volunteer for Dragon for any particular department in Dragon Con
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  Speaker 1: right now, but also I had one other point. I
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  Speaker 1: know I can't remember.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it might help if they hired people to it
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  Speaker 2: is a for profit con. It's not a nonprofit convention. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a for profit con and they rake in a
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  Speaker 2: lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they. OK, so I did remember I was going
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  Speaker 1: to say the other thing is that they were having
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  Speaker 1: like badge printing issues.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The system went down. Yeah. And like really complicated things.
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  Speaker 1: And like when the person from the Atlanta Radio Theater
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  Speaker 1: Company went to get our badges, because they usually pick
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  Speaker 1: them up in a bunch since they're already there getting them, right?
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  Speaker 1: My badge wasn't printed. So they had to print a badge.
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  Speaker 1: So my badge didn't even say artsy or performer or
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  Speaker 1: anything on it. I wrote it in with pencil so
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  Speaker 1: I could feel better. But yeah, so it was just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and that happens. Like this is not shade
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  Speaker 1: for technical issues or heat or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: That happens.
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  Speaker 1: And lines have been long in the past. It was just,
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  Speaker 1: From the outside looking in, it didn't. feel like it
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  Speaker 1: was running the smoothest at least at the.
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  Speaker 2: Start yeah i think i think the convention needs to
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  Speaker 2: have a debrief where they come up with some contingency
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  Speaker 2: plans should because i it's not like next year is
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  Speaker 2: going to be colder, right? Like they need to come
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  Speaker 2: up with contingency plans so that they can minimize. Cause
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  Speaker 2: at least from a press standpoint, it's not a good look,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like I realized that technical issues, you can't
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  Speaker 2: really like, like plan for, you can test a system
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  Speaker 2: a thousand different ways. And then the thousand and one
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  Speaker 2: way is what makes it all break down. And there
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  Speaker 2: just was no way of predicting that, like that happens. But,
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  Speaker 2: having some plans of how to handle line management when
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be stretching out into the outdoors. Like that's,
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  Speaker 2: that seems like that's an important consideration to make.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and it's gotten so big that like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the lines do stretch outside because they have to,
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  Speaker 1: or else you're blocking all of like the, the lobby areas.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. Fire marshal would get involved then. Cause then
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  Speaker 2: you're like, like the fire marshal would say you've exceeded
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  Speaker 2: the capacity of this room. You can't have this many
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  Speaker 2: people in here. So like you have to, I realized that,
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  Speaker 2: that that's an issue, but then you need to have
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  Speaker 2: some sort of plan for the folks who are going
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  Speaker 2: to be stuck outside waiting, you know, two hours, three
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  Speaker 2: hours in order to get their badge. It's, it's rough.
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't have a whole lot of solutions other
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  Speaker 2: than having like water stations provided would be great. Like
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  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. not necessarily bottled water, but like
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  Speaker 2: a water station, maybe like cups and a, you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: like a water cooler kind of thing that you can replenish. But, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it just, it just seemed to me like
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  Speaker 2: there were some, uh, some, some operational issues that need
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  Speaker 2: to be looked at. And hopefully most people had a
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  Speaker 2: great convention. I just know there were a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people who were deeply frustrated at the whole badge pickup situation. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, again, like you've been there for so long,
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  Speaker 1: but badge pickup used to also be horrible back in
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  Speaker 1: the day too.
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  Speaker 2: So, uh, it was great for me. I was a guest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Some of us don't get that benefit.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, you just gotta be famous, Ariel. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm working on it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when you get there, you'll find out it's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 1: I will say I did go to the, the dropout
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  Speaker 1: fan group photo. I feel bad because, uh, they had
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  Speaker 1: a Dimension 20, which is the D & D actual play.
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  Speaker 1: It's not all D & D, but the RPG series.
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  Speaker 1: They had that group photo shoot and then they had
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  Speaker 1: everything else drop out photo shoot, which I went to.
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  Speaker 1: And it was delightful. Everybody was so great. There were
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  Speaker 1: things from like this season of dropout like people were
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  Speaker 1: cosplaying already there was one from like the latest episode
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  Speaker 1: of dropout a bunch of people showed up as josh
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  Speaker 1: rubin dressed as a creepy fisherman um so i saw i.
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  Speaker 2: Saw a great meme of that where they turned it
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  Speaker 2: into a black and white photo and uh made it
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  Speaker 2: the lighthouse which is the robert eggers movie and i
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  Speaker 2: was like that was pretty funny.
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  Speaker 1: And i had made it i had made a joke
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  Speaker 1: when people were like oh the dropout the and i'm
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  Speaker 1: sure i wasn't the only person who thought about this
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  Speaker 1: but like on the on one of the dropout fan
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  Speaker 1: pages when they're like, we're going to have a group
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  Speaker 1: at dragon con, or maybe it was on a dragon
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  Speaker 1: con page. I was like, yeah, it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: like the mimes from Claire obscure last year, except for
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  Speaker 1: it's all going to be grants. And then sure enough,
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  Speaker 1: there was a huge group of grant O'Brien's because in
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  Speaker 1: the count the right rice episode of game changer, one
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  Speaker 1: of the rooms was you walk into the room and
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  Speaker 1: there's a bunch of tall guys all dressed the same.
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  Speaker 1: And you have like, 10 seconds to find Grant O'Brien
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  Speaker 1: in this room of everybody dressed like Grant O'Brien. And
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  Speaker 1: so they were just doing that throughout con and handing
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  Speaker 1: out ribbons. If you found Grant or you didn't find Grant.
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  Speaker 2: I sure hope they had Keith from the Try Guys
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  Speaker 2: in there too. I don't think they did. They've done
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  Speaker 2: sketches before about how they look alike.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But then I was also kind of a heel
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  Speaker 1: because they were pulling up like different groups. So they
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  Speaker 1: had like Brennan Lee Mulligans and Katie Maraviches. from like
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  Speaker 1: on a bus kind of stuff, which was the spoof.
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  Speaker 1: And it does count as dropout because it happened in
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  Speaker 1: like a crowdfunding Shark Tank episode of Game Changer. And
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  Speaker 1: there are all these people dressed up beautifully as Katie
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  Speaker 1: Maravich as her dragon master with like a bus and
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  Speaker 1: like elf ears and wigs. And I was just wearing
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  Speaker 1: a dragon master shirt, but I went up there and
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  Speaker 1: I kind of like carroted them. So they had like
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  Speaker 1: the dragon master like thought bubble is what I thought.
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  Speaker 1: But it's probably just going to look like I shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have been in that photo, I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 2: Well, tell everybody a little bit about how your performances went,
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  Speaker 2: because you were there to perform with the Atlanta Radio
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  Speaker 2: Theater Company. So let's hear it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Friday night we did Call of Cthulhu, which
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  Speaker 1: is a problematic story but we did our best um
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: that packed out they had to add seats to the
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  Speaker 1: room and then we hit capacity and there were still
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  Speaker 1: people waiting to get in that happens a lot nowadays
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  Speaker 1: at dragon con so um you know especially for bigger
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  Speaker 1: panels so like you wait in the line and when
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  Speaker 1: somebody leaves somebody else can go in so that was
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  Speaker 1: delightful it was a very good reception all of our
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  Speaker 1: audiences were fantastic saturday we did jonathan's pieces of mildly
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  Speaker 1: exciting tales of astonishment that got a decent crowd and
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  Speaker 1: it got amazing like People were laughing so hard. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that this series is very funny. I always have.
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised how hard some people were laughing. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, wow. So mad props to Jonathan.
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  Speaker 2: I always like hearing that I used to be funny.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you still are. Your new stuff was funny, too.
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  Speaker 2: People loved it. Yeah, I did. I replaced a character
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  Speaker 2: in one of the scripts. And so I'm glad to
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  Speaker 2: hear that that went over well, too.
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  Speaker 1: It did. That entire script went over very well. I
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  Speaker 1: was in that one, too. But then our Sunday show,
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  Speaker 1: we did a few original pieces. We did like a
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  Speaker 1: space marshal piece. We did. It's a long running series
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  Speaker 1: that artsy is done called Rory Rammer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is it's done in the style of the
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  Speaker 2: pulp sci fi hero radio plays that were big, like
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  Speaker 2: things like the old, old Flash Gordons. That's essentially what
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  Speaker 2: Rory Rammer space marshal is like.
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  Speaker 1: And then the other two shows we did on Sunday
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  Speaker 1: were we did a retelling, like a reimagination of the
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  Speaker 1: Little Match Girl, which is very good and got a
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  Speaker 1: great response. And we also did the one that I
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  Speaker 1: was a lead in was called Paranoimal Encounters, Hazel's Holiday,
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  Speaker 1: where I played Hazel, the noir narrating cat in her life,
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  Speaker 1: protecting her human from eldritch horrors, where she is an
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: eldritch being herself with tentacles. like the human doesn't know that,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: but you know, cause the Hazel, the cat hides it. So, uh,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: that also went over very well. The audience loved it. Um, yeah,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: it's like, I, I enjoy seeing my friends at con,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: but everybody's so busy and they are already hanging out
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: with people. Like, I don't like inserting myself into friends groups.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: And I do have friends who like, please, I want
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: to see you. And this year, sadly I couldn't do it.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Cause I just wasn't, I.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Didn't have the energy. Um, but, uh, but really the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: best cons I have are the cons where I am
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: helping make everybody else's cons better. So if it's performing
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: or back when I used to volunteer, you know, if,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: if I can make it a better time for everybody else,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that's what brings me joy. Cause I've been there so
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: many years that I've seen it all.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: So.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know. I was at the very first one. Yeah.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: So, so like, yeah, people enjoyed it. People had fun.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: It brought joy. you know, it, it brought something to
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: their day. So at the end of the day, I
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: had a wonderful time. The people that I got to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: act with all worked so hard and kicked, but, um,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: it was a really good crew of actors this year. So, uh,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: it was a good time. Um, everybody that I encountered
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: was pretty nice. There was only like one or two
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: tiny little kerfuffles of people kind of having an attitude,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to take it personally. Um, so yeah.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Good time. Yeah. I, I have to say when I
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: was going to Dragon Con, which I haven't been to in,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like eight years or something. It's been
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: a long time. But when I was going, I did
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: like to go to the occasional panel, but only if
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the moderator for that panel was really good, because I
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: get so much secondhand cringe from like, audience q and
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: a's where i'm just even if all the questions are
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: good i'm always anticipating that the next one's going to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: be that horrible awkward one right yeah like like the
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: the quintessential socially inept geek coming up and like yes
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: in season three episode seven uh the terror out of
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: the closet you were wearing a red jumper for the
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: first five minutes but then like in minute six you
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: were wearing a maroon jumper and then the actor's just
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: like this was just a job.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Man i mean i i have heard almost that literal
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: exact conversation during an x-files panel in the.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Past yeah i um i i heard i i was
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: at a douglas adams reading once when he uh he
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: was reading from Last Chance to See, which was his
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: book about ecology and environmentalism and conservation. And I heard
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: some of the words, like there was one guy who
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: just kept getting up and every one of his questions
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: were horrible. Like he asked one horrible question, then he
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: asked a second horrible question. And it was when he
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: got up and got back in line when I was like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: that's it. I can't do this anymore. And I left
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I loved Douglas Adams work and I
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: loved what he had to say, but I just couldn't
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: do it. So I like panels that have a really
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: good moderator. Our friend crispy is probably the best moderator
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: He's so good. He's he's, he asks great questions. He listens.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: He has great followup questions and he has a great rapport. Like,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I've moderated panels and I don't come close. He is
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: so good at that. So I was like, oh, Crispy's moderating?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I don't even care who the people are. I'm going
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: to go see that because I know it's going to
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: be a great panel.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he could teach classes on it for sure.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: He really could. Yeah. So shout out to Crispy.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, I do want to say two more things.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, please.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: It was delightful seeing some of this celebrities just wander
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: around in joy con i know jewel state showed up
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: at the firefly group photo and then was also just
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: came out of was enjoying some panels herself um and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: then like matt dinaman who wrote drag dungeon crawler carl
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: lord almighty was just walking around and chilling too which
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: is hilarious because every single one of his panels was
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: over capacity and like that i think that was the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: biggest group photo i think i heard it was like
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Don't quote me. This could be wrong. Somebody could have
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: been exaggerating like 600 people at that group photo.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I definitely saw a meme referencing that and I didn't
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: know what it was referencing at all because I've not
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: read Dungeon Crawler Carl. And it was only through the
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: context of the comments that I even knew what the
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: heck was happening. I was just like, why aren't there
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: all these images of a dude in like a black
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: T-shirt and underwear or something. I can't because it wasn't
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: even a picture. It was a drawing. And it was
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: like it was a joke about Dragon Con like being
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: on the floor of the Marriott. The Marriott is one
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: of those central places where you see tons of cosplay.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: And it was just the same guy being pasted over
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and over and over and over and over again. And
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I was like, I have no idea what this is.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's yeah. Yeah. So the lead character in
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Judging Crawler Carl kind of I haven't read it. My
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: husband has, but it kind of gets sucked into the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: plot at a time where he's like in his boxers
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and so it's a really easy like white boxers with
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: red hearts kind of a costume.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah that's what that's what was being posted in
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: this meme and I was just like again I was
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: so lost for a while till I read there was
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: a comment was like oh this has to be dungeon
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: crawler Carl I've heard the title thousands of times never
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: read it and knew nothing about like all I knew
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: was the title. That was it. Yeah. So, um, well,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: let's talk about what we watched this last time we recorded.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've had a chance to watch
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: that much since you were prepping for dragon con. Plus
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: you were, you were feeling a little under the weather
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: as I understand it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I was feeling under the weather. Uh, you know, sometimes
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: in your health journey, you got to take a step
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: back to take a step forward. That's all. Uh, I
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I'm working towards immortality all.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: So that's all I'm going to live forever or die trying.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did watch some things. So the new season
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: of Taskmaster with Richard Ayoade started this week, dropped its
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: first episode on Thursday. That was a delight. It was
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: very funny. There was one musical task. It also has.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: He used to be a part of Little Britain, Matt.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Don't remember his last name. but he was also Tweedledee
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and Tweedledum in the Johnny Depp, Alice in Wonderland. Is
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: it Matt Berry? No, that's not Matt. He's from What
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: We Do in the Shadows.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Berry is also in the IT crowd.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's... What is his name?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Matt Lucas.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Matt Lucas, yes. He's in it. There was one task
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: where they had to do something musical, and everybody was
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: good at it. And I was like... One, I was impressed,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: but two, I was like, I don't know how I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: feel about everybody being able to play a musical instrument
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and write music and sing. I... Like, it's funny, but
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I know. But it was very good. Richard Ayoade made
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: me laugh like so hard. It hurt at one point.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: So that was good. I look forward to this season.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I caught up on the new season of Ted Lasso.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And by that, I mean, I watched the latest episode.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: And that continues to be a lot of fun and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: really good and just like heartwarming, which, you know, you need.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I just, it's feel good media. And so I love it.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And so even when like Tony and I are stressed,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: we're like, Oh, we have a new episode of Ted Lasso.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. Cause it's going to make us
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: feel good. It's going to make us feel like there's
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: goodness in the world. Um, and then I watched, uh,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: like episode three of lanterns, which is Jon Stewart's backstory.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I will warn you that episode four has, uh, uh,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: a scene of animal cruelty in it.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you for letting me know.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's rough. But yeah, what did you think of
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Jon Stewart's backstory?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I liked it. I didn't think it was as rough
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: as maybe it hit you. It didn't hit me quite
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: as hard. But I do think there were some very
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: poignant points made and it was a thinker, right? It
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: made you think. It made you think about society and
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: what might push uh, push people to make the decisions
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: that they make and are those decisions right or wrong? Uh,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I did not like Jon Stewart's mom very much. Like
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I understand maybe why she did the things she did,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: but I, I thought like, yeah, like I was like, really,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: that's what you're doing.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Um, but also, uh, that gets even, I would argue,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: it gets worse in the next episode for you. Not
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: by a lot. There's like a, there's a casual conversation,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: but in that conversation I was like, wow, she is
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: doubling down.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. But like, cause I had a friend, you know,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: this might be a little bit of spoiler. Skip ahead
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: a few minutes if you haven't watched it and you
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: don't want to know, but I had a friend who's like,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: if they make his dad like a hero character, John
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Stewart's dad, a hero character, I'm going to be really
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: mad because of something we see in the first episode.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: But I do think that they made him more sympathetic
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: in a good way.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I mean, like I, I appreciate everything that's
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: going on. Like, and I, this includes episode four, episode four,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: you get some more interesting information and you're really watching
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: as every single character is kind of withholding information from
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: every other character that And even as a viewer, you
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: don't have all the information, right? You've got some of it,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: most of it, more than most of the other characters do.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: But it starts to get really frustrating because you're like,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: if you would just talk, you wouldn't be so angry
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: at each other all the time.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I will say, I'm still finding the show
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: very interesting. I am enjoying the journey more even when
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: it's a rough journey, because I'm like, it feels well
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: thought out. I really liked how the episode began. Cause
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, is this, if this is how the guardians act.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: It made me laugh a little bit.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, in the comics, it's true that the guardians
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: are responsible for creating their own worst problems. right like
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: yes sinestro is a great example like the guardians as
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: a as an entity in the comic books are really
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: good at screwing things up like they're creating the problems
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: that they have to then solve and you think this
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: feels like a bureaucracy right where you're justifying your job
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: by making problems that you can then fix.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Just their interview office made.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Me laugh um yeah yeah.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And then And then I liked the moment. There is
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: a moment where like they let John Stewart's mother, it's
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: not that she doesn't have humanity throughout the episode of,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: of episode three, but like there was a moment where they,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: they give her some softness and then you get to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: see him happy for a bit. And I really liked that.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Like it felt like I could breathe for a moment.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: But that's just me.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: No, I agree. I just, I've seen one more episode
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: than you have. That's all.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Um, I'll be watching that today.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: So I'm obviously up to date on Lanterns. I'm enjoying it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I definitely see more of the True Detective stuff coming out,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: but that's largely in the complicated relationship between the two leads, right?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Between Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart. That reminds me a
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: lot of the complicated relationship between the two detectives in
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: True Detective. The tone is not quite as... grim dark
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: as true detective was. So it's not that far off. Um,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I also watched, I watched another couple of episodes of
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Stuart fails to save the universe. So the first three
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: episodes I didn't like very much. The fourth episode I
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: quite liked, um, And then the fifth and sixth went
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: back to me not liking it very much. Oh, shame.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I was really hoping it would become its own thing
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: and find its own path and be something new.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: The fourth episode introduced something that I found very intriguing
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: and I was kind of hoping would be an I
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: don't know why I was hoping this, but I was
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: kind of hoping it would be like an ongoing element
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: in the show, but instead it just ends up being
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: its own kind of encapsulated thing. Like they do occasionally
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: reference stuff that happened in previous episodes when you're in
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: an episode, but it's almost exclusively so that they can
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: deliver a joke about it. Right. It's not really providing
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: any meaningful narrative arc. Uh, yeah, I'm not, uh, I'm
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: not thrilled with it. I, I want to like it. I,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: but I didn't really like the big bang theory either.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: So I don't know why I'm expecting more. Um, I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: also started watching the latest, uh, series or latest season
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: of man meet mountain, the show also known as reacher. Um,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: so I'm, I'm, I think I'm up to date on
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: season four so far and it's okay. It's kind of dumb,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: but all of reachers kind of dumb. Uh, And also,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I'm watching classic Night Court. Oh, nice.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot how often they tackle taboo subjects. Like,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: even early on in the first three seasons, they tackle
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: some pretty taboo subjects, which as a kid, most of
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: that kind of went over my head. But as an adult,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's kind of cool that they actually
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: took a mainly... uh, humane approach to dealing with things
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: like homosexuality or, uh, or someone who is transgender or
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: things like that. And you're, you're like, Oh, okay. Uh, that's,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: that's cool that they did that. Even so it's done
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: through the lens of eighties comedy. So it's not handled
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: with the most agility and thoughtfulness.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it, I always loved like Night Court.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: And yeah, a lot of that went over my head
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: as well because I was even younger than you. But yeah,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: it it makes me so happy to know that like.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of sitcoms that I enjoyed as
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: a kid and you enjoyed as a kid that do.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Not hold up.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: And if you look at comedy now, you're like, oh, yeah,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Night Court is cheesy as heck, but it's good to
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: know that they at least handled stuff with care, you know.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: On the earlier seasons. they're still silly, right? There's still
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: some silly moments in them, but it's not until you
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: get into the later seasons where the really wacky stuff
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: started to happen. Like if you watch, I want to
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: say it's in their last season. It might even be
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: the last episode. There's a gag where Harry is dressing
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: down somebody. He's on the bench. He's looking down. You
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: can't see who he's talking to because they're off camera.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: He's dressing down how this person has been relentlessly pursuing
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: this poor animal and needs to make it needs to
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: put a stop to it. And when it finally does
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: the reverse shot, you see it's the coyote from the
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Roadrunner cartoons. And you're like, wait, you just broke reality
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: for a joke.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite moments in a role playing game
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: ever is my friend. My friend, I need to get
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: back on him to do this, was trying to write
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a role playing game. And it was just figuring out
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the system was the hard part. But it was and
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: there have been other games similar to it since then.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: But when we were just kind of trying to play
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: it and like Calvin ball it to to throw spaghetti
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: at a wall and see what would stick, we were
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: all allowed to have like a special knowledge. And mine
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: was Moose Night Court, which then later led to somebody
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: else's was like improvised sandwich and like. really bizarre, uh,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: knowledge skills, but it did lead to Richard mall showing
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: up in the game and like getting us out of
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a security situation. So like, I, I, yeah, I've, I've
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: always been a fan of night court. Um, I guess
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I also did watch some dropout this week, a little bit.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Just a little bit. Well, I think we've, we've covered
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: enough stuff. We've gotten further into an episode that we
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: usually do even for this segment.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: My husband saw Buddy.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: You know, you don't want to talk about it. No,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you can go ahead and add to it. I was
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: thinking we were going to get 30 seconds or less,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: but let's talk about Buddy.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Did he like it? Yeah, they did. Oh, okay. You
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: said no so fast. I was like, oh, he didn't
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: like it.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: He did like it. They said it was weird, but good.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Okay. All right. Now we're going to move to 30
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: seconds or less and Ariel gets to go first. Oh, crap. Yeah.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: So Spider Noir will not have a second season, which
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: is hilarious. I think they announced that right before it
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: won some Emmys. So maybe it'll get picked up elsewhere.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I have some friends who are sad about this. They're
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: also the same friends who haven't watched it yet, which,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: you know, albeit they're just a handful of people. If
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: enough handful of people wait to watch it, that's the problem, right?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: it was an expensive show and there weren't enough people
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: who tuned in when it released, but they also released
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: it multiple places in multiple forms. So it had a
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: high benchmark. Hopefully it'll pick up, but if not, I
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: really do feel like the series ended in a place
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: where it was well encapsulated and had a good ending.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, when I finished the first season, I didn't
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: expect there to be a season two because it felt
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: like it was a full story. All right.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Other geeky shows that got Emmys include widow's Bay, which
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: took home eight, trophies for technical categories mainly, but they
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: also got an acting award for Betty Gilpin in Guest Performer.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: The Muppet Show got four Emmys, including Best Variety Special pre-recorded.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Pluribus also took in four technical category Emmys. Fallout got
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: a pair for costumes and production design, and Bridgerton got
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: one for voice acting in period or fantasy slash sci-fi hairstyling,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: which I did not know was a category. Okay.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't know either. Man, Pluribus feels like it was
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a thousand years ago.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also shocked that Rhea did not win for
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: best actor for that because she was so good in it.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I guess that was this year.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Speaking, unlike Pluribus, which is slow to roll out a
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: new season, but they are working on it. The Pit
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: has been dropping season after season. They're already working on
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: season three. The Pit is that very highly accurate trauma
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: ER drama. That's one of my favorite shows. But the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: actors like to have fun. And this year, in coincidence
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: with Star Trek turning 60 years old, they all read,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: a bunch of them read, a live reading of Mantrap,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: which is the very first episode of Star Trek that
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: ever aired. I saw some clips. It's very funny.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I can't say this next bit of news shocked me,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: but Deadline reports that the Russo brothers started filming Avengers
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Doomsday before they had a finished script. They claim they
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: did this in order to give actors plenty of room
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: to improvise and sort of find their characters and relationships
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: and stuff. So they started with an unfinished script and
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: with an unestablished villain, and after numerous missteps leading up
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: to Avengers Doomsday. What could go right?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: So Dungeons & Dragons Honor Among Thieves is a movie
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: that both Jonathan and I were uncertain about, but ultimately
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: ended up liking. If you listen to the show, you
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: know that. It did not do well enough for Paramount
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: to pick up a sequel movie for it, but that
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that that sequel movie is gone. Hasbro, along
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: with the writers, is trying to shop out the sequel,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: which I think is maybe even already written, to have
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: somebody else produce it. That means it might come straight
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to streaming. I don't mind. I just want to see
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: more in this franchise. I wouldn't even mind a TV series.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: But also this gives me hope for He-Man, which had
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a similar problem of critics and audiences loved it, and
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: it just didn't get big enough theater draw.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Hmm. In early August, Ariana Grande announced she would not
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: be appearing in a 2027 production of Stephen Sondheim's Sunday
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: in the Park with George, after all, due to health concerns.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Last week, her Wicked co-star Jonathan Bailey, who was meant
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: to act opposite her in Sunday in the Park with George,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: announced he's also leaving the show, which prompted someone on
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Reddit to now rename the show Sunday in the Park
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: with Nobody.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Aww. That feels like antics that you'd see in The Office.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: And speaking of The Office, we're getting a new documentary
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: called Fan Level Midnight Devoted to The Office. It comes
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: out on Peacock on September 7th. It talks about how
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: The Office went from like struggling to be an American
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: series because it was too close to the UK series,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: is my guess, to becoming something that everybody really loved.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: And it has like new interviews and clips and things
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: like that. Very exciting. It's coming out right before the
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: second season of the paper, which I haven't watched the
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: first season. I'm kind of surprised there's a second season
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: of that, but go.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Them yeah i also want to point out that if
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: i do get this episode out today today is september
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: 7th so oh is it you could you could watch
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: it right.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Now i thought it was still august.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Dragon con we'll do that to you uh even though
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: that all happened in september before Before Obsession star Indy
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Navarrete dons the superhero gear to be rogue in the
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: next X-Men movie, she will star in a quirky sci-fi
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: thriller for Apple Original Films called The Waffle House Index.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: According to The Hollywood Reporter, the movie will feature, quote,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: a mass flood, killer crocodiles, a nuclear explosion, a magical
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: bunker under the Waffle House, and aliens, end quote.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I'm excited for that. I actually like Waffle Houses. I
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: usually get some pretty good waiters who are fun to
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: chat with there. Um, so, uh, Jonathan broke my brain
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: with this next article, so he might have something to
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: say about it when I'm done. But apparently, uh, the
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: group behind John Wick is picking up a Bigfoot movie.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Uh, no, no.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Okay. I had a hard time wrapping my brain around
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: this story.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: So, so you know how, you know how like after
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Die Hard came out. everyone was making a movie that
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: was diehard on a something, something like speed is diehard
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: on a bus under siege was diehard on a boat.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: This is John wick, but Bigfoot.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Yeah. So it's big, Bigfoot seeking revenge for
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: his loved ones being killed. Uh, uh, was, wait, was, uh,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: on a plane diehard on a snake snakes on a
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: plane was diehard on a snake. No.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: The snakes may, may, maybe, maybe you could argue that.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: But I would say the snakes on a plane came
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: like post diehard on a something, something era. Like, like
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: we had kind of run through the whole gamut of
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: diehard on a something.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that because of our, our old video
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: mashup between speed, which is diehard on a bus thing.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: And snakes on a plane where it was snakes on
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: a bus. Yeah.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Uh, you gotta, was it something like you have to
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: keep running at 55 miles per hour or the stakes
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: will explode?
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Yes. Something like that.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: It was such a silly, silly site gag. Uh, is
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: it my turn now?
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Okay. Victor Miller, the man who wrote the screenplay to
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: the iconic 1980 horror film Friday the 13th has died
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: for decades. Miller wrote movies and TV episodes and Friday
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: the 13th was his most successful film project. And he
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: only wrote on the first film before Jason was established
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: as a killer. So this was when it was Mrs. Voorhees.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Jason's mom was the killer. Spoiler alert for a movie
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: that came out in 1980. He also had a really
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: long career writing for soap operas like All My Children
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: and General Hospital. He was 86 years old.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Next story, if I am reading this right, is that
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: it looks like the Harry Potter series that's being made
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: is coming out in Christmas. And it also has a
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: second season coming.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: And that's all you want to say about that.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I've had I've had some people and even some
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: celebrities who are like, well, J.K. Rowling's not that involved
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: in it, according to this deadline article. She is so. Yeah.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Well, yes. Yeah, that's so you should know. Ariel and
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I don't have no plans on watching any of this.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: We're done with her.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: So.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: All right, I'll move on. Zach Kreger told Deadline that
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: he doesn't intend to direct any more big IP films
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: after Resident Evil, but not because some fans are being
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: real jerks about his film not featuring new characters and
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: a new story rather than being a retread of one
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: of the game plots. Instead, he said, quote, I don't
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: want to write something where I have to make sure
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I'm tagging different data points to satisfy X. I just
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: want to satisfy me. End quote. Which I respect.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's worked well for him. He's come
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: up with some movies that have done very well and
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: have been a lot of fun.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: And we've seen, especially with Marvel, where Marvel will initially
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: tap directors who are known for having a very distinct style.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: And except for Sam Raimi, most of them end up
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: not working out. Like Edgar Wright famously was supposed to
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: do Ant-Man, but dropped out because he and the studio
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: didn't see eye to eye on what needed to be said.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: And like the studio has like a whole list of
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: things that you're supposed to include in the movie in
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: order for it to interlock with all the other properties.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: But that really hamstrings you as a creator. Well, let
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: us now move on from 30 seconds or less to
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: a section that we call stuff that isn't really that
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: geeky necessarily, but we think it's interesting. So you're going
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: to get it anyway.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the first is we've got a trailer for,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I think a movie called a talent for murder. Yeah.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Now I want to preface this by saying I was
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: not aware of what this was actually about until I
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: did a little more reading. Like I watched the trailer
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: and I thought, Oh, this looks interesting, but I'm, I'm
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: also uneducated in the world of thrillers. So did you
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: know that this is about an actual, well, one of
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: the two characters is an actual person who has since
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: passed away, but no, I did not.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Helen Mirren is playing.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Patricia passed away.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: No she's playing someone who passed away okay.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Oh thank goodness oh they the.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Character is the dead one okay helen mirren who is
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: still alive as we're recording.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: This thank goodness.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Play yeah if you let me finish plays plays patricia
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: highsmith she's the dead one Patricia Highsmith was a very
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: successful author who, uh, who wrote, uh, lots of thrillers,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: most famously thrillers with a series about Tom Ripley. So
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: if you ever heard the title, the talented Mr. Ripley,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: that's one of hers. So a talent for murder is
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: a play on the title of one of her books,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: but also, There are other little Easter eggs in this trailer,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: which I'll talk about in a second. But yeah, the
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: story being told here is not a true story. It's
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: just about someone who actually was a real person. So
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: take it away, Ariel. Why don't you talk about the trailer?
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: You're the one who's got all the information on it.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I have I have like meta information, not about the trailer.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: So this the the trailer to me is. and this
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: is all going through a lens of exhaustion, so this
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: is why my commentary might be off this week, is
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: about an author who writes murder mystery books who's kind
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: of stopped, and there was a journalist who was sent
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to talk to her about it, and that journalist disappeared,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: so a second journalist was sent who also seems to
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: be a big fan of hers, and it's them collaborating
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: on this murder mystery, and you can't really tell... Who
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: might you feel like one of them might actually be
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: a murderer and you can't really tell who.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of how the trailer plays out. Tiny
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: little points. I don't think they're journalists. I think they're
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: supposed to be representatives of the publishing house that is
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: trying to get her to write because because her books
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: are so popular. But this is based off a play
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: that was written by Joanna Murray Smith titled Switzerland. Same
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: premise like it was still Patricia Highsmith. and still a
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: character named Ridgeway, this is his last name, Edward Ridgeway,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: coming to try and convince her to write another book,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: and then they kind of form this cantankerous and confrontational
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: relationship with each other as they're trying to kind of
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: hash out an idea for a thriller. The other thing
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: that I thought was really interesting about this from a trailer,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: like an Easter egg, perspective with the trailer. And again,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I did not know this. I only know because I
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: looked into it in the trailer. One of the songs
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: they use is a song by the band space called
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: the female of the species. And the female of the
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: species is more deadly than the male, which is a
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Rudyard Kipling thing. What I found out was that Joanna
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Murray Smith has another play titled the the female of
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: the species. Not about this at all. But yeah, I
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: was just like, oh, somebody in the trailer house was
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: really having fun pairing the music to the trailer. And
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: it's like a little Easter egg nod to the screenwriter.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: That's really cute and clever. I don't know if I
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: will dig the film, but I really appreciate the links
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: they went to to have little Easter eggs in it.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: It does make me more interested in checking it out, though.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: And I love Helen Mirren. I think she's a phenomenal actress.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: This comes out October 23rd. So I'm curious about it.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I've never seen the play Switzerland, so I don't even
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: know what to expect. The trailer does get pretty tense
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: in parts, but in that fun thriller way, not like
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: in an anxiety inducing way.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Um yeah so i i will probably check this out
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: um i may have to spoil it for myself first
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: to make sure i can but i'll probably check it
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: out uh the.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Next thing we got what no no i was just
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: gonna say since it was a play i don't expect
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: it to get too gruesome but who knows.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: It's once it translates to movie all bets are off
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: uh true the Something I don't expect to be too
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: gruesome is the movie called Fortitude.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is based off another true story, but again,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: based in that way that based in the same way
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: that the Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare was based in reality.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Also World War II. So this is about Operation Fortitude,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: which is part of the UK's counterintelligence, counterespionage efforts where
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: their goal is to convince German leadership that they are
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: staging an invasion force meant to go to one part
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: of France when in fact they're actually going to be
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: landing at Normandy. So it's essentially to throw the Germans
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: off the scent and to divide their forces and give
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: the Allied forces a better chance of invading Normandy. That's
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: the dry kind of like history book version. The trailer
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: gets a little zany with it.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: It really does. And one of the zaniest things is
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Nicolas Cage is playing a James Bond type character.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: It literally is playing a character that that an historic
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: figure who many people consider to be one of the
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: influential figures that that prompted Ian Fleming to write the
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: character of James Bond. So that's that's true that the
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: guy he's playing may have been one of the inspirations
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: for James Bond. The guy is a Serbian lawyer named
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Dusko Popov.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: There's also a character named Thomas Argyle Robertson, and I
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that wasn't what the movie Argyle
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: was about.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: No, it's also not what the movie it's also not
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: what the movie Tar was about, but Tar was his
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: nickname because of his initials. Gotcha.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's it's about them staging a fake attack
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: to to throw Hitler off the scent of their actual
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: real attack. It looks like a funnier, lighthearted version, kind
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: of like Inglorious Bastards meets the thing of a gentlemanly warfare.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I can't speak right now.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Ministry of a gentlemanly warfare. Yeah, it's not as it's
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: not as it's not as over the top, like. Casual
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: action as the the ministry for ungentlemanly warfare where you
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: know people are just like no look firing submachine guns
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: at nazis that's not happening in this trailer.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: No no uh it's got an amazing cast other than
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: nicholas cage ed screens in it who uh i always
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: confuse for nicholas holt uh they look similar ben kingsley.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: I thought it was nicholas holt when i was watching
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: the trailer.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Which i'm sure nicholas holt and ed screened absolutely love
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: the fact that they get confused for each other um
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Both amazing actors. Ben Kingsley, Ron Perlman, Michael Sheen, Lucas Haas.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Just a really amazing cast. This looks like a lot
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: of fun. Yeah. Which is a weird thing to say
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: about a movie about a movie. Yeah.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Ron Perlman is playing Patton, which is funny. But
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Michael Sheen is playing Churchill, which is way more funny.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Amazing.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I did not recognize him at all. at all in the.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Trailer no no like it's about as good as didn't
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: also gary oldman play churchill at one point yeah i
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: think he did so like just these people yeah uh
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: yes it's a right it's.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: A rite of passage for for british actors of a certain.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Age just to be unrecognizable as churchill yes um i
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: can't wait till i reach that point in my.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Career This comes out October 19th. Oh, Alice Eve is
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: also in this. I always think of her as the
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: girl who was in her underwear in that Star Trek movie.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Also, a good actress, but you know.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: It's because all the trailers focused on because she's a
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: very attractive young woman. And she was in incredible shape
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: for Star Trek. And they had a gratuitous shot of
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: her in you know, like essentially bra and panties and
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: it was used in like all the marketing.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it was like that Romulan actress and enterprise
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: who they always had decontamination.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. You always had that decontamination sequence where they
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: have to sit in their underwear and, and it was
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: like being in a sauna. Classy.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Yep. I mean, look, if you got it, flaunt it.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: That's what I learned.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah from from from the producers uh we also got
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: a trailer for a television series coming to amazon prime
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: video called kill jackie yeah.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: It's about uh i guess she's in art now it's
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: it stars uh katherine zeta jones gorgeous brilliant actress who
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I guess is in the art field now, but used
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: to be a spy or an assassin or do some
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: sort of nefarious stuff. And people have found her and
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: now are coming after her to kill her. They hire
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: like a group of deadly assassins to take her down.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: And it's about everybody who gets pulled into that journey.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The assassins are called the seven demons and she
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: is all about leveraging her relationships with people from her,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: you know, dark and murky past and, in order to
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: take out the assassins before they can take her out.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: So instead of it being like John wick, where John
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: wick would just go up to try and slaughter them
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: all himself. She's more like pulling the strings of all
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: the different people that she knows, which I think is
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: actually a really interesting take on this kind of thing.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: This is an adaptation of a novel that's titled the
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: price you pay. It was written by Nick Harkaway, but
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: it was under his pen name of Aiden Truhan. And
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: it comes out October 2nd on Amazon Prime Video, like
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I said. So it's a series. So I don't know
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: how many episodes there will be, but it looks like
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: it's really well made. Like the production values are great.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I feel like there there's action in it
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: and there's humor in it. But the humor, it's cheeky,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: but it feels like it's not trying too hard to
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: be cheeky. It feels like an effortless cheeky.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. It's the kind of sly humor you
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: would get in classic James Bond.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Not not the Daniel Craig stuff where you hardly have
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: any humor in it at all. But and not not
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: the crazy stuff of Roger Moore. I guess I'm looking
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: at more like Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan era.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Next, we've got so actually I'm going to start this
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: a different way. Jonathan and I both love musicals. And
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: one of the things about musicals is you sing when
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: your emotions are too strong to convey what you're feeling
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: by speaking. which has always been how Les Miserables has
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: felt to me. But apparently you can just speak those
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: emotions because we've got a non-musical version of it coming out.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: To be fair, it originally was a novel by Victor Hugo.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: So this is an adaptation of the novel, is not
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: an adaptation of the musical. It is the same story,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: but obviously the musical takes the music approach. Also, for
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: those who don't know, If your emotions are still too
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: big for you to even be able to sing them,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: that's when you dance.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: But there won't be singing and dancing in this one. No.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, it looks well done. It's got a good cast.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: But honestly, that to me makes it feel plus miserable.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was impressed with, again, the production value of this.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: this piece. Like it looks huge, epic and scale and
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: very muted colors, which I'm really tired of. I get it. Like,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: you know, you want everyone to be looking like they're downtrodden.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: So the easiest way is to put everyone in earth tones,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: but I'm just so tired of like everything looking gray
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: and muddy. But this comes to French cinemas on October 14th.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Not sure if it will get distribution here in the
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: U S I hope it does. Because I've actually read
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Les Miserables. I read the full thing, not even the
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: annotated ones or whatever. No, not annotated. Whatever. My brain
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: doesn't work either. But yeah, annotated is different. That's if
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: you add extra notes. I didn't need extra notes. I
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: read the whole dang thing. The unexpurgated version. I don't
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: know that... And I'm curious about it because like the
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: musical was a big thing for me when I was
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: a teenager. I don't think I could watch it again now.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: This comes out, like I said, October 14th in France.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe it'll come here later. And if it does, maybe
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: I'll check it out. And if it resonates with me
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: within the first like 30 minutes, I'll stick with it. Otherwise,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I may just bail because I know how it ends.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: that is true.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Something I don't know how it ends is we get
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: a little teaser for a film called Power Trip about
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't watch this before Dragon Con because
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Saturday night I ended up Ubering home and I don't
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: normally Uber by myself so And, and.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: The, the storyline of power trip involves a ride share
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: driver and her passenger.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The, the log line in the trail, like in
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: the description of the trailer says like the, the guy
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: kind of becomes unruly, but honestly in the trailer, it
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: looks like maybe the, the, the driver is sus.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, um, I got the feeling that the driver gets,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: she gets really intense in this teaser. And, uh, it
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: was one of those things where you're like, Oh, Is
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: this one of those things where how the turns have
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: tabled where the person you think is going to be
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: the victim ends up being the victimizer? It's hard to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: say because it's so such a short teaser, but it's
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: also a short film. It's only 25 minutes long and
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: it's going to come to Nebula. But before that, it's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: going to be screened at Regal Essex Crossing in Manhattan,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: New York. That's going to happen the week of September 24th.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: And after each screening, there's going to be a Q & A.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: with some of the filmmakers. So one of the reasons
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: why I put this on here is that the folks
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: behind it are YouTubers. The script was written by Matthew Kelly,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: who hosts the channel Nando V Movies. I've seen some
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: of his stuff before because he's done a lot about Marvel.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: And then the guy who directed it was Patrick Willems,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: who is a video essayist. So I was like, oh,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: it's another example of YouTubers branching out into more traditional
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: forms of media. And the fact that they went with
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: a short film is pretty cool. There's so much. It's limited, right?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: Like you have limited means of distribution for a short film.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: And in this case, it's only getting played in this
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: one theater. However, that does make it eligible for for
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Academy Award consideration.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: I also want to say, this doesn't matter to anybody
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: but me, but I thought the rideshare driver looked familiar.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: She is a Tony.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Award winning?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: No, Tony nominated actress who was recently the lead female
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: in Dead Outlaw with the person I used to do
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: theater with, who was the lead in Dead Outlaw. So
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: That is fun.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: That's really cool. So, so that's it for our stuff
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: that doesn't, you know, neatly fit into, we've also got
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: some things in our lineup that are kind of border cases,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: but I feel like they lean a little harder into
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: the geek sphere. But before we can get there, we
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: have to go through this one dusty old passageway. So
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: many cobwebs. Okay.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: But I don't feel good Jonathan.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Why are you making me go through here? Because the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: good stuff's on the other side. We just got to
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: get through this. Like, mind where you step because the
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: floor is moving a little bit.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Don't worry. We got it. OK. Oh, here it is.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Here's our hutch. Let me just open that up and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: let's take a look. Ah, Ariel, did you watch any
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: of these trailers?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Only the two that you said you were just going
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: to mention. The three actual trailers.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: No. Yeah, I kind of. You know what? Maybe I'll.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll switch some. Okay. So let's talk about the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: nice ones. Cause you did watch that one, right?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: This was a T this was a teaser. So there's
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: not a whole lot to talk about, but this also
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: is falls under the, the umbrella of sci-fi horror.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's really interesting. It's like, it's these friends who see,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: I'm getting it confused with terrestrial a little bit.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, the, the idea is that there's this group
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: of friends that get together and There's a bright light
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: in the sky, which appears to affect the behavior of
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: some of that group of friends. It makes their eyes
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: glow weird in the dark, too, which was a great effect.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: It was very simple, but really effective.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Didn't it also kind of like I don't know, in
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: the trailer, it looked like maybe their bodies change shape
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: It might be like it does appear to have like
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: some sort of alien influence that has caused some of
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: the group to behave differently. irrationally and, and ultimately violently.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: But that's, that's all we get. Cause it's just a teaser.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Like we don't even, there's no like release date or anything,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: at least for the United States. This is a British
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: film and it looks pretty darn interesting.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: More interesting than terrifying, which is I'm all for.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The other one that she watched that, that I
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: put under, just, just mentioned this. was Wuthering Heights, House
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: of the Damned. What did you think of that trailer?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: I thought it looked more watchable than the actual Wuthering
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Heights movie that just came out, to me at least.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree. Yeah, so Wuthering Heights, House of
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: the Damned is taking a horror approach to the general
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Wuthering Heights story where Catherine's ghost is a vengeful spirit
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: and Heathcliff is sacrificing people in order to appease her
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: and potentially bring her back into the world of the living,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: which is not the plot of Wuthering Heights.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: No, no, but vaguely interesting period. Scary piece for it. Yeah.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: It made me think, it made me think of like
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: how the asylum would come out with you know, mock
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: busters to try and capitalize on, on films that did
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: really big, but Wuthering Heights, it did well. Like I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: looked it up cause I thought it just flopped, but
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: it didn't flop. It did. It did. Okay. Um, I
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: just was not interested in it because it did not
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: look at all. Like it was faithful to the novel.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, I like you put way more romance
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: than is actually in that book. Um, anyway, uh, the, the,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: this version, which it also looks, by the way, way
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: better produced than an asylum film. It doesn't look nearly
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: as cheap as an asylum movie. It comes out October 16th.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: So that means I can only talk about one of
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: the three that I have listed here. I'm going to
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: talk about.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: You can talk about them all.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: No, I'll mention the other two because I want to
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: keep it in line. The third one I'm going to
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: mention or talk about is Bloody Tennis. So Bloody Tennis
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: is about... a young woman who goes to like an
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: elite tennis Academy to, to kind of develop into becoming
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: a professional tennis player, like a truly competitive tennis player,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: but it has like a very cult like atmosphere. The
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: girls who are all at the Academy are Uber competitive
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: to the point of like abusively competitive. The leadership is,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: odd and abusive there's some body horror stuff a lot
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: of body horror stuff in the that's hinted at in
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: this trailer there's like a scene where uh uh the
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: the head of the school is applying leeches to the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: young woman for some reason it looks pretty disturbing this
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: comes to shudder on september 17th i thought it was
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: interesting because i was like okay so you're taking that
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: hyper competitive storyline that we've seen in a few other
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: movies over the past few years, but you're throwing in
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: some cult elements and some supernatural horror, at least hinting
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: at supernatural horror. That is kind of interesting to me.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: The other, the other, the other two are Ithaca, which
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: is a Canadian horror film. It's a cannibalism movie. It's,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: that's all I'll say about that and check it out.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: It's spelled I T H a Q U a, uh,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: reviews were kind of middling. Unfortunately, it sounds like it
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: has some pacing issues. And then we got a trailer
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: for a movie called goody goody, which is a pregnancy
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: horror movie where a couple are going to a remote cabin.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: They're bringing their midwife along who has told them they
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: should not be trying to have birth. in a remote
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: cabin in the wilderness, but they do it anyway. And
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: then it turns out that the baby is possibly the devil.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: And so did the midwife know that.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: The midwife did not, but I think the husband might have,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. It looks really intense. A
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: lot of body horror in this one too. It comes
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: out September 18th. Okay. Now let's just, Hey, look, it's
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: all bright and sunny. As soon as we turn the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: corner here, there's like, there's 80% fewer spiders.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Wait, only 80% is not a hundred percent.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: No, there's like 20% spiders kind of just sort of
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: doing their thing.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: No. Well, I guess it is Joro season.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, they have to do the whole, like
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: weave the giant web that goes across the entire sidewalk.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: So that way, uh, when you're walking and you don't
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: see it, you get to practice Kung Fu.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I, listen, I have a Joro on each
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: side of my door and it is everything within me
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: to like, I have talks with them daily. I don't
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: look them in the eye, but I'm like, you stay there.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: If you come toward my door. It's our tentative truth.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Truth is off.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: I can't go on my back porch. There are too
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: many spiders back there right now.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: The porch belongs to them now.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, unless my husband goes out and liberates it, at
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: which point I will clean the porch. I will do
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: all of the porch maintenance that I normally do, but
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: he's got to save me from the 25 spiders out
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: there first.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some required de-spiderfication. Yeah. Well, let us move on
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: to our show notes. And like I said, we've got
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: some elements. I tried to put them at the top
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: where it's questionable whether or not they actually... directly involve
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: geeky stuff, but there's at least the trappings of geekdom.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: And first up is a supernatural drama called Nichols.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Starring Rob Riggle about a person whose son dies. And
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: then he's looking for signs and he finds these Nichols
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: and he kind of starts thinking that someone else's son
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: is the reincarnation of his son.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Close.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Is that like, It was a little hard to follow.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: So it's his brother. Okay. And his brother died when
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: they were teenagers. His brother died in a motorcycle accident.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: It's been like 35 years or something since his brother died.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: And then the neighborhood teenage boy, I guess teenage, maybe
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: young 20s, I don't know, somewhere in that range, gets
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: in a motorcycle accident but survives. And then there becomes
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: this question of did his brother's spirit somehow inhabit this
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: young man's body? And it seems like, at least from
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: the trailer, both characters are sort of questioning whether or
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: not that's a possibility.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's called a supernatural drama. It almost
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: feels more like just one of those, like dealing with grief, family,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: regular dramas to me though. Yeah.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: No, I wrote like, I wrote, this looks like a
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: super heavy, uh, let's deal with grief kind of story.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: So they're, they're billing it as supernatural. Um, Rob Regal
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: looks great in it though.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he does. Um, I'm curious about this one. Like,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is going to be supernatural
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: or if the supernatural element is going to be like
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: something that the characters themselves are questioning, but isn't actually present. Right. Like,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe there is no supernatural element to it at
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: all but that's just how they're processing what's happening um
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: it's definitely family drama stuff and and grief as you
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: were saying so uh i put it in here because
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: of the possibility that there may be some supernatural elements
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: to it i mean.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: It looks it looks well done it looks well done
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: if i want to cry.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: I might watch it yeah it definitely looks like it's
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: a uh get emotional kind of movie yeah.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: The next one you It's for the one that I
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: was confusing the nice ones with called Terrestrial. And you
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: don't think this is actually the sci-fi that it is
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: claiming to be.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's using sci-fi trappings. So here's the story.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: You got a guy named Alan who apparently lives in
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: this enormous mansion that even has a big guest house
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: out back, although the guest house is currently tinted. As if,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: as in it's got a big tent over it, like
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: it's being fumigated or something. And Alan has a bunch
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: of his old friends visit and is explaining that he
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: has successfully sold a book and he's got a movie
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: deal on top of that. And that's what's led to
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: his enormous windfall of money and success. His friends are
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: confused by this and skeptical. One in particular is like,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: It's like calling him out as much as he can
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: without actually calling him out on just BS. And in
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: the trailer, we get some sci-fi imagery. And so I
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: looked into this a bit more. It turns out that
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: the character of Alan has an obsession with an established
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: sci-fi author. And it really became fixated on the mythology
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: that author had created in his science fiction series. It
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: kind of reminded me a bit of L. Ron Hubbard,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: kind of like that. And that potentially that might mean
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: that Alan has kind of lost his grip with reality.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering, this is just me wondering, I don't know.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: I have not read a synopsis of the movie, but
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering if the mansion actually belonged to the sci-fi author,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: like the established author and that Alan has done something
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: to him and is now just, just squatting in this
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: guy's house and, I don't know if that's what's supposed
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: to be happening, but like in the trailer, there are
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: moments with like sci-fi imagery and stuff. I just don't
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: know if any of that's actually supposed to be an
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: element in the film or if it's just that, you know,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: they're talking about science fiction stories.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Like, I feel like, I feel like it's a little
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: bit of both to me. Like he, he's pulling this
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: science fiction in to what he's doing, which I do
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: feel it is appropriate for our show notes. Like even
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: if it's a science fiction leading you to be, have
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: some psychological issues, I guess with yourself, like it's interesting.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: It's intriguing. It is a movie that came out in 2025,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: but it's just now hitting theaters in October. So.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, October 16th is when it'll be hitting theaters. So
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: I think it did like the festival circuit, that kind
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: of thing. I'm interested in this. Also, the trailer is
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: an odd trailer because it's very similar to the way
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: I used to start all of my mashups, you know,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: where I would be like, so-and-so has a problem. Except
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: this one is like, meet Alan. And it's done like
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: the trailer starts off like it's a comedy, like a
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: comedy comedy. And I think it is like a dark
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: comedy in places, like a satire almost. Because they then
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: do the same thing. They do the meet Alan thing
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: a second time, but now things are messing up. Which
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: I think is indicative that Alan's not being honest about
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: his situation.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: I think it looks really interesting. I do want to
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: watch it.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: October 16th. Maybe we'll check it out. Uh, then we
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: got a trailer for a sci-fi horror slash thriller film
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: called glasses. This is very low budget. Um, it feels
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: a lot to me like a, a group of people
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: locked into a room kind of plot where they have
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: to figure out how to get out, which I think
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: of like, I think the saw movies ultimately fall into
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: that category. Cube falls into that category. Uh, the circle
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: falls into that category. But in this one, the, the
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: titular glasses are some form of high concept technology that
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: do something, something.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: The trailer doesn't tell us.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: No, like for me, it feels like, it feels like
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: the thing where like you have these AI glasses, but
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: then you have to ask questions and, it feels like
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of ideas that maybe are not
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: all fleshed out to work together.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: Or maybe they are in the movie, but you can't
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: tell that from the trailer.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Cause I wrote, this is why I wrote, I said,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like this trailer actually doesn't show enough, which
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: is rare. Like usually the problem with trailers is they
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: show way too much.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: But this one I'm like, I don't, I'm not sure
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: what's supposed to be going on. And I find it
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: more confusing than I do intriguing. It's not that I
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: want to know what's going on. I'm just like, wow,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: this trailer is not put together very well.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's yeah. It's you can't really follow it. It
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: might be minority report ish. It might be saw ish.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: We don't like, is it, are they augmented reality glasses or,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: do they do something totally different that we don't even understand?
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know because no one ever actually says what
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: the glasses do, just that they're very high tech and
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: that they cost, you know, like a billion dollars each
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, that being, that being said, I am, I
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: am for people trying new, new stories, right?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. I agree. And like this, you know, you're,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: it's clearly limited by budget as well. It's a, it's
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: clearly a lower budget film. That doesn't mean it's bad.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: like some low budget films end up being phenomenally interesting.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: And entertaining, uh, everything, everywhere, all at once.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Uh, this, this comes, yeah, it was compared to like, um,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Hollywood level films. Yes.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: It's still very expensive, like more expensive than your, you know,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: independent filmmaker doing everything by their, you know, by maxing
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: out their credit cards way more than what that person
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: could do. Yeah. But, but low budget on like the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: big scale. This comes to video on demand on September 22nd.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: So I wish I could say it intrigued. I'm mostly
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: just confused.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: I am also confused. Maybe it'll be great. Hopefully it
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: will do well and the story will be awesome. And
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: then we'll be more interested.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Our next one, I'm even more confused about possibly
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: because as I tried to look into it, I could
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: not find anything about this movie anywhere is called wild one,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: but it's spelled W Y L D. And it's like
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: a cyberpunk type story, but I'll just go ahead and
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: get this out of the way. Couldn't find it on IMDb.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: I even went to individual actors, pages, actors who are
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: supposed to be in this thing. None of their pages
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: mentioned this movie. None of them.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Uh, it's, It's you can find information about it on Britflix.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Which is that's the channel that published the trailer. Yeah.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then horror fuel dot com.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: Which is just writing about the trailer. Yeah. So like
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: there's no other information I could find. Like I couldn't
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: even find confirmation. Like they gave a list of some
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: of the people who are in the cast, one of
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: whom I could not even find her. Like she wasn't
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: on IMDb. She was supposed to be in one of
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: the walking dead spinoffs, but she doesn't come up. If
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: you go into their IMDb page, which may mean that
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: as someone who was in it, maybe she was an extra. Like,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's possible. But one of them, a
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: blonde woman, I saw someone identify her as like a
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: country music star, which maybe that's the case. I don't know.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: All I know is that the outfit they put her
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: in pushes her boobs right up under her chin.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Listen, some people can't help that.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was like, this is distracting me because
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: of how blatant this is. The trailer itself is really weird,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: isn't it?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: It is really weird. It's another low, mid-budget indie sci-fi film.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: It's also kind of grindhouse-y. It feels like Mad Max
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: meets Cyberpunk.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: A little bit. A little bit of Blade Runner thrown in.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, meets the Night Watch. There's not, like, vampires at all, but, like,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: I think at one point one of the actresses pushes,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: not the actress, one of the characters pushes a gun
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: out of her somewhere in her nether regions. We can't
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: quite tell, but it looks like maybe she's birthing it.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. some of the action kind of looks similar to
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: the way action was, was done in the like 300
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: or sin city movies. Like it reminds me of that
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: kind of filmmaking. Uh, there's a lot of CGI in this,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: like a lot of computer generated imagery for things like
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: storms and cityscapes and stuff like that to the point
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: where I was worried at first that I was looking
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: at an AI video and I, I tried to do
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: some research on this and the research I found claims
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: that this is not AI. That was all, you know,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: done by humans or whatever. I'm like, like, like human humans.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's weird.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, there's also no like distribution or release dates
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: or anything connected to this. is very weird to run
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: into a project that does not exist on IMDb at
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: all because like some of the most obscure stuff you've
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: ever could imagine is on IMDb, but this is not,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: or at least it wasn't when I was searching it.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is really weird. Um, I, it might be
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: too schlocky for me.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, I put it on here largely because
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: of how strange everything is. Like I didn't, uh, The
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: trailer itself is pretty pedestrian. There's nothing in it that
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: makes me go, oh, I want to see that because
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: what a cool concept or whatever. I feel like it's
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: telling stories that we've seen told lots of other times
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: just with a lot of cyberpunk-ish imagery. But it's all
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: the stuff around it. Like the fact that I couldn't
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: find anything out about this movie and that the only
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: sources that I could find were Again, the ones you mentioned,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: the channel that published it and one horror outlet. Yeah.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so weird.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So who knows? Maybe it'll be like a cult classic.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: And if Boob Lady is a famous country music artist,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: I apologize for not recognizing you. It's not because I
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: was staring at your boobs, even though that's what the
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: movie apparently wants me to do. based upon the framing
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: of the character but it's because I just I'm not
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: familiar with that whole world of country music yeah you
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: don't listen to a lot of it no.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: Next we have a trailer for something called The Beast.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah this is where Samuel L. Jackson is the mother
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: flippin president of the mother flippin United States of America
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: yeah it looks fun so what what is the beast
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: uh i don't remember it's a car ariel okay it's
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: the car he's inside i.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: Watched this trailer it looked fun my brain is a
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: sieve so which i realize is fun to listen to
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: when you're listening to this podcast yeah.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: I'm trying not to dominate conversation here but Yeah. So
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: the beast in this is like a heavily armored experimental car.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: That's apparently the new presidential vehicle. And Joel Kinnaman is
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: also in this movie. I think of him as a
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: flag from the Suicide Squad movies. But he he apparently
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: gets shot at some point. So it's the president driving
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: his own car because Samuel Jackson is driving and he's
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: the president. And this car also apparently has like two
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: enormous Gatling guns in the back of it, like pop
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: up out of the back of the car. So it
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: looks like it's essentially supposed to be like a car
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: slash tank, uh, high octane action movie kind of thing,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: not meant to be taken seriously. I wrote, it looks
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: dumb as hell. It comes up on October 9th.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: But like dumb in a fun way. Uh, speaking of
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: dumb in a fun way, we got, uh, I guess
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: it's an older trailer that missed our radar for a
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: comedy horror called Portal to Hell, where a guy runs
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: a laundromat and one of the, I guess, dryers has
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: a portal to hell.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Kind of.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, dang it. I thought I got this one. I
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: liked this trailer.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: He doesn't run the laundromat.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: He just goes to the laundromat.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, he's he's a debt collector.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: OK.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: And but he likes to work with people so that
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: they can get out of debt. So he's not like
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: he's he's supposed to be like a nice guy type
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: of debt collector, not like the kind who's going to
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: like take your thumbs or something. And his his character's
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: name is Dunn, D-U-N-N. And he comes across this laundromat
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: that happens to have a portal to hell in it.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: And he also finds out that his neighbor, his next
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: door neighbor, played by Keith David, So we, you all know,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: we love Keith David in this house. Uh, he plays
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: a neighbor named Mr. Bob Shank, who is, uh, rapidly
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: approaching the end of his life, but done really likes Mr.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: Bob Shank and finds out that the portal to hell
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: apparently has opened to claim Mr. Bob Shank. And so
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: done wants to help Mr. Bob Shank get out of
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: his debt to hell. And to the point where he's
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: even talking to a demon and, named chip voiced by
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: richard kind.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Uh who looks kind of when they first show him
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: he's like all fuzzy and so kind of adorable looking
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: he's less adorable when you get up close but uh
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: still adorable.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah uh this actually already came out in theaters but
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: it's coming to video on demand on september 8th which
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: is tomorrow.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sad i didn't know about it when it came
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: out to theaters this is one that i would have
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: definitely gone to see.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have gone to see this one too.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: I hear that it kind of has a tonal shift
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: where the front half is more has more comedic and
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: humorous moments and the back half actually gets a little
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: more emotional. It gets a little more grounded, which is
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: kind of interesting to me.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't hate that.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: I don't hate it either. I would definitely check it out.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: So I'm hoping that when it comes to video on
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: demand tomorrow, I get some time to watch it. I
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: don't know if I will because One other thing, and
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: I probably should have mentioned this at the top, is
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: that I'm going to be gone for most of September
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: after today. So it'll be a while before I can
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: watch stuff because I'll be on a boat where I
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: don't have access to stuff like video on demand.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: And I would give you all of the completely wrong
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: takes on new trailers coming out until that exception of
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: I can't publish on the platform.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: I could probably request you to get publishing access. I
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: just don't think you really want it.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: Fair.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: Fair enough.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: Something else I don't want is to work in the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: restaurant industry.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: Not if you're going to end up being caught in
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: a turf war between two psychopathic restaurant owners.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: Yes. And what we're talking about is the cartoon coming
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: to Adult Swim called Get Jiro.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: This is based off some graphic novels that were co-written
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: by Anthony Bourdain, who of course passed away several years
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: ago now, but Anthony Bourdain co-created this series. And it
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: is set in this alternate universe where there is this
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: hyper violent war, Yakuza-like war between different restaurants. And Jiro,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: a sushi chef, is kind of caught in it. And
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: it turns out he's just He's just as good at
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: dispatching bad guys as he is at making sushi. So
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: I cannot stress to you how violent this is.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised because at first I was like, oh,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: this is a fun idea. I mean, it may not
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: be that alternative reality. You don't know how underground these
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: chef turf wars are in real life. But But yeah,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's it looks you put Invincible level violent.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: It might look a little bit more than that to me,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: but I also haven't watched the later seasons of Invincible.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: So I think of that last sequence in the very
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: first episode of Invincible where Omni-Man goes ham. And and
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: that that was just so gruesome and so graphic. And
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: the I feel like. Get Jiro has similar vibes. This
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: comes out October 3rd. Yeah, I'll probably watch it because
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: it does look entertaining. I just have to remind myself
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: that I shouldn't be eating when I'm watching.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the bear and I like cartoons. This
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: might be too much for me.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: This is like the bear mixed with Kill Bill.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And Kill Bill is kind of at the
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: top of my random violence meter, which is a weird
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: thing to say. I know I've seen much more violent things,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's just the kind of violence.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's eye popping kind of violence. That's
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: it's more gruesome than just like someone getting shot or,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: you know, hit with a sword or something. They get
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: brutal with the violence in this trailer. So, you know,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: the show is going to be hyper violent.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. This next trailer for a film called Freaker feels
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: like it only belongs in this section because they reference
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: before there were hackers.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: It's also stupid. It's stupid. Okay. Here's a quick history lesson.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: In the 1960s and 1970s, there were people called Freakers
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: or Phone Freaks spelled with a P-H, P-H-R-E-A-K-S, who were
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: fascinated by how the telephone system worked. And by fascinated,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: they wanted to learn how it worked. And then once
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: they learned how it worked, they learned how they could
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: exploit systems and do things like make free long distance
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: calls because children, once upon a time, you had to
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: pay for those. And they learned how to do things
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: like manipulate the phone system so that they could do
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: all sorts of of stuff that wasn't technically illegal because
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: no one had thought to make a law about it yet.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: It was new crime in a way. And then they
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: were sort of the predecessors of hackers, right? Like hackers,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: when you get down to it, the initial description of
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: a hacker, like the original version of the definition was
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: someone who really liked to learn how stuff works and
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: then how to Make it do stuff that it wasn't
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: intended to do. Like that was a hacker. It wasn't
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: necessarily someone who was trying to break into like the
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: FBI or whatever. But if they did figure out how
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: the FBI systems work, they could do that. And sometimes
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: they did because they were curious. This movie is almost
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: entirely not related to any of that. And it irritates
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: the hell out of me that they call it Freaker
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: because it's like, first of all, it's set in the
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: mid 2000s. which is dumb. It should be set in
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: the 60s or 70s if they're actually talking about phone freaks.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: One of the write-ups I saw, which maybe this was
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: not from the studio or from the film group itself,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: but it said something along the lines of, in the mid-2000s,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: the closest thing to a computer network was a phone,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: which is just wrong. Yeah. The internet was in full
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: swing by the 2000s. The World Wide Web got its
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: start in the early 90s. Like, It's just wrong. But
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: it's following this character who's a 15-year-old kid. He's blind.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: He has incredible mimicry skills. He can sound like other
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: people to the point of folks believing him to be
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: someone else. And he starts to learn how to manipulate
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: people more than the phone system itself to be able
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: to commit fraud, essentially. So really, this is more like phishing.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: spearfishing than it is freaking and so it's funny that
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: a trailer could make me get that angry that fast
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: but i i included it because freaking and hacking and
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: all that stuff those are quintessentially geeky like hobbies.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah it does have one very notable actor in
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: it enrico colantoni who is in galaxy quest and Veronica
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: Mars and AI. And I think also was it spin
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: city news radio, something like that. He's been in a
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff, but otherwise smaller cast members.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The movie might be great. I know I've ranted
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: a lot, but I ran mostly because I think it
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be called freaker. I think it should be called
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: something else.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: They shouldn't say in the early 2000, like in the
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: early of the whatever. Now it's wrong.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like, you know, the phone freaks. There
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: was a guy named Captain Crunch. That was his handle.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: And the reason was because he found out he he
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: found out that a whistle that was included in Captain
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: Crunch boxes when it was like the toy or whatever.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: could produce the perfect tone for him to be able
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: to make free long distance calls on public pay phones.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's amazing.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like that's, those are cool stories. Like I wouldn't
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: mind like a film, even a fictional film about people
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: who were doing stuff like that. Like it wouldn't have
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: to be, you know, a, a biopic about captain crunch.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: It could be, it could just be something fun set
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: in the sixties or seventies as people like maybe a
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: group of misfits, uh, figure out how to manipulate the
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: phone system. But this is just this just feels like
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: it's someone imitating other people and thus being able to
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: catfish and commit fraud. That to me is not interesting.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: It feels it feels like a misnomer for sure.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: The next trailer we got is for a really bizarre
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: movie called Lady. And this one is about a woman
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: who's who's trying to be like a famous artist and
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: then like she hires like a documentary person and then, uh,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: life kind of turns on her ear, like turns her
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: on her ear because, uh, she starts going invisible when
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: she's not in like the public eye. Yeah.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: She's like her hand, her extremities start going invisible and
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: it starts creeping further and further up. Uh, she's wealthy.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: And you know, when you're that rich, you get to
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: be called eccentric. She's, she's, she's, uh, Dang, I can't curse.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: She is eccentric AF. And so it definitely looks like
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: it's absurd and comedic, at least at the beginning. And
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: then it gets more absurd when they start introducing the
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: transparency slash invisibility angle to it. This has already been
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: released in the UK. I'm not sure if it's going
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: to get distribution here, but I wanted to include it because.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: Talk about a movie premise I have not encountered before.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It looks bizarre, but also fun, but also like
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: vaguely best in show mockumentary ish. Yeah.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: And maybe a little like there might be a bit
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: of an edge to it too, because she like, it
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: comes across that she might even be dangerous specifically to
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: the documentarian. So pretty fascinating stuff. Like I I'm, I
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: haven't looked at any reviews, so I don't know how
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: it's been received, but I was intrigued by this trailer.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting. Again, that's lady for that
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: particular one. If you want to check it out.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: I do want to check that one out. The next one,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to check out. It's
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: for something called the unknown, but it feels an awful light.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: Like all you zombies.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a body swap, psychological fantasy thriller movie thing. Uh,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: The basic premise is you've got a character. He's a photographer.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: His name's David. He ends up having a fling, like
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: a physical fling, with what he thinks is a young
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: woman named Eva. Then he wakes up in Eva's body.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Turns out that the person he had a fling with
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: was an entity that apparently swaps bodies after sexual encounters.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: And so then you've got this man named David caught
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: in this woman named Eva's body, trying to figure out
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: if there's anything he can do about that. And it's
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: not a comedy at all. It's done as a thriller
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: slash horror kind of movie.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's really interesting. So like all you zombies does
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: not have to do with entities or body swapping. It
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: just has to do with a person traveling through time
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: and changing.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah spoiler alert for all you zombies so you can
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: skip ahead like 30 seconds if you don't want to
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: hear this the big twist is every character in that
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: story is the same guy at a different point in
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: time who time travels and encounters himself or in some
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: cases herself.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah Jonathan and I have both been a part of
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: that story in radio theater format.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: We've appeared together and we were the same character.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah surprise surprise Uh, if they ever do a film
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: about it, I hope not. Um, if they already have,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: I don't need to know. It's just such a bizarre story.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: It's not one of my favorite Heinlein pieces. Um, but yeah,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: this looks, this looks interesting.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely looks dark. I think it has a
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: lot about, it's asking a lot about identity and, uh,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: things of that nature. So I'm curious about this one.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: We do not have a North American release date yet,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: but apparently they are working to get this distribution in
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: North America. It's already played in Europe. So here's hoping
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: because it does look intriguing. It's kind of a little
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: more artsy than a lot of the other geeky stuff
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: we talk about. But then so were some of the
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: early films in this section as well. And that's it.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: That's the last one we've got.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what an episode to take a break on
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: where I am fully with it and competent on every
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: single thing we talked about.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: That's okay. I'm going to completely rely on you to
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: maintain a working document of every geeky thing that happens
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: over the next two and a half weeks.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: It'll be a seven hour episode.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: No, no, we'll whittle it down to things that actually
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: haven't been talked to death about. But it'll be interesting
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: because I'll come in and I'll be like, huh, I
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: haven't seen any of this yet. I've been on a boat. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: So, Jonathan, since you're going to be on vacation, do
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: you want to tell people how to reach out to
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: you or do you just want to be left alone?
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: You can't reach out to me. That's why I'm going
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: on this vacation. No one will be no one from
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: work will be able to reach me and all of
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: my family will be on the boat. So.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you do want to reach out, you
• 1:41:37
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• 1:41:39
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• 1:41:42
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• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: you can write us an email. Our email is largenerdronpod
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: at gmail.com. We really do love hearing from you and
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: the geeky things you're excited about.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: And until next time, I am Ariel. I'm going to
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: take a nap. Casting.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: And I am Jonathan getting my freak on Strickland. The
• 1:42:12
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• 1:42:22
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• 1:42:27
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