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Congressman Massie joined Brian Thomas this morning · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Wednesday made even extra special today hour of Power. My
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  Speaker 1: listeners know that means we're talking with Congressman Thomas Massey
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  Speaker 1: right now, followed by Joe Jenital Poultano and Great Alisia
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  Speaker 1: reze Hamilon Kenny Commission is going to be joining the
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  Speaker 1: program at the end of the hour to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the budget. Welcome back Congressman Thomas Massey. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: coming to the Morning Showing in advance. Happy Merry Christmas
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  Speaker 1: to you and your family. Welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: Great to be back on with you.
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  Speaker 1: Brian, all right, I'm been talking about it much here
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  Speaker 1: in the Morning Show, but let's start with the January
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  Speaker 1: sixth pipe bomber. No, it's not Erkle from Family Matters.
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  Speaker 1: It's Brian Cole Junior, thirty years old. So what was
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  Speaker 1: all the brand new evidence and what's what's the diligent
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  Speaker 1: efforts that the Trump administration engaged in to catch this
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  Speaker 1: guy that the Biden administration apparently didn't do. From everything
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  Speaker 1: I've gathered, there was nothing there were no new tips,
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  Speaker 1: no new evidence. They just put together what they had
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  Speaker 1: and processed it and found out where he is. Do
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  Speaker 1: am I missing something? Congressman Massey, No, the.
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  Speaker 2: Story still does not add up. And there's no way
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  Speaker 2: they're going to make me believe that this autistic allegedly
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  Speaker 2: according to his family, he's autistic, That this autistic kid
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  Speaker 2: he also happens to be African American living in his
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  Speaker 2: family's basement. They're liberals. They're trying to make you believe.
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  Speaker 2: At least the news is right now that this guy
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  Speaker 2: confessed to being a Trump supporter and that he placed
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  Speaker 2: these pipe bombs, that he masterminded this pipe bomb attack
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  Speaker 2: on January sixth on the Capitol. Remember this of five
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  Speaker 2: years ago. I'm not buying it. I do not believe
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  Speaker 2: an autistic black kid in his parents' basement evaded the
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  Speaker 2: FBI for five years and masterminded this and built these
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  Speaker 2: pipe bombs by himself. Could he have been a patsy?
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  Speaker 2: Could he have been part of this overall conspiracy, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: could have been. But right now the evidence is then
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  Speaker 2: what they've presented so far. They've got some cell phone pings.
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  Speaker 2: And here's why I don't believe it. Brian. I sat
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  Speaker 2: in a room. I was part of a deposition of
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  Speaker 2: the FBI guy who was in charge of the Washington
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  Speaker 2: Field office when January sixth happened, and he was in
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  Speaker 2: charge of the investigation to find out who the pipe
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  Speaker 2: bomber was. But guess what his resume includes. Just a
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  Speaker 2: few months before, he had been transferred from Michigan, where
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  Speaker 2: he oversaw the FBI fed napping case of Governor Whitmer.
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  Speaker 2: Remember they had some not the brightest citizens in the world.
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  Speaker 2: They had entrapped them. Most of the people involved in
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  Speaker 2: that kidnapping case. Where her FBI informants or agents. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he comes from that office, he comes to DC. He's
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  Speaker 2: there when January sixth happens. He's overseeing all the FBI
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  Speaker 2: in Washington, d C. He's overseeing the investigation. We call
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  Speaker 2: him in when we get the majority, because remember the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats were in the majority for a while Nancy Pelosi
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  Speaker 2: was running things. When we get the majority, Jim Jordan
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  Speaker 2: calls him in to ask him about the raid on
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  Speaker 2: mar Lago, which he also oversaw. And I asked, Jordan, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: could I pop in while you're doing the transcribed interview
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  Speaker 2: and ask him some questions about January sixth, He says, sure.
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  Speaker 2: So I go into the transcribed interview and I asked him,
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  Speaker 2: why haven't you guys used cell phone pings? We got
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  Speaker 2: video of the pipe bomber placing bombs allegedly on January fifth.
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  Speaker 2: Now he wore a mask or she wore a mask
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  Speaker 2: and glasses and a hood, so we couldn't identify the person.
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  Speaker 2: But you've got cell phone pings of this person. How
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  Speaker 2: time you haven't identified him for her? And he said
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  Speaker 2: the cell phone data was corrupted. So here's the problem
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  Speaker 2: with that. We go to the cell phone providers and
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  Speaker 2: they all of them said no, their data was not corrupted.
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  Speaker 2: So this is one reason I'm skeptical is I had
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  Speaker 2: the assistant FBI director in charge of the Washington Field
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  Speaker 2: office just lie to me in a transcribed interview where
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  Speaker 2: he was under oath, and here they are, five years later,
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  Speaker 2: they're saying their strongest case is the cell phone pings
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  Speaker 2: to identify this guy in his basement.
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  Speaker 1: So were they lying to you then or lying to
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  Speaker 1: you now, Congressmbassy?
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  Speaker 2: I think both. It's possible that it's both, So okay,
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot more to this too. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that we've got enough time on your show. It
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  Speaker 2: was my staffer who discovered how the second pipe bomb
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  Speaker 2: was found. He sifted through dozens of hours of video
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  Speaker 2: that weren't publicly available until we got them released, and
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  Speaker 2: he found out there was two counter surveillance police officers,
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  Speaker 2: Capitol Hill police officers who found the second pipe bomb
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  Speaker 2: within fifteen minutes of getting out of their car. They
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  Speaker 2: walked right to it and found it. And I thought
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  Speaker 2: that was very suspicious. I asked Christopher Ray in a hearing,
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  Speaker 2: have you interviewed these individuals? He couldn't give me a
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  Speaker 2: straight answer. I asked the Washington Field Office director if
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  Speaker 2: he had, if that person would be a suspect. He said,
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  Speaker 2: that's investigation one oh one. And so there's some suspicious
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  Speaker 2: stuff going on there. By the way, my former staffer
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  Speaker 2: was hired by the FBI and has been working on
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  Speaker 2: this case over there. So and then also I brought
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  Speaker 2: in the counter one of the two counter surveillance officers.
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  Speaker 2: They never let me talk to the other one, but
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  Speaker 2: one of them came to my office, not in a
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  Speaker 2: transcribed interview, but just as sort of a chat. But
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  Speaker 2: they brought a handler for him, who interrupted him frequently
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  Speaker 2: or clarified his answers, or wouldn't let him answer into
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  Speaker 2: They brought the handler with him. The handler turns out
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  Speaker 2: to be the ATFU guy in charge of January sixth,
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  Speaker 2: who somehow migrated his way over to third in command
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  Speaker 2: at Capitol Hill Police. I suspect he was he worked
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  Speaker 2: his way into Capitol Hill Police so that he could
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  Speaker 2: basically watch over this investigation as it played out and
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  Speaker 2: make sure that none of the Capitol Hill Police officers
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  Speaker 2: were implicated. Finally, there's a January sixth committee, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the bogus one the Democrats ran. Well, Barry louder Milk represented.
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  Speaker 2: Barry Loudermilk convinced the Speaker and the White House. The
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  Speaker 2: White House had to fight to let to get the
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  Speaker 2: Speaker to let him even set up this committee, which
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  Speaker 2: just blows my mind. Why wouldn't you want to know
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  Speaker 2: if there was some conspiracy, Yeah, to make the President
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  Speaker 2: and all of MAGA look bad like there was good,
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  Speaker 2: like there was an insurrection. Well, finally Barry Laudermilk gets
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  Speaker 2: the right to run this committee. It's a subcommittee, and
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  Speaker 2: I've been working with him and his staff. He's allowed
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  Speaker 2: to investigate anything except the Capitol Hill Police.
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  Speaker 1: Holy cow. You know we've talked about your inability to
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  Speaker 1: get information. You are oversight. You represent your constituents, you
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  Speaker 1: represent the American people. You're the one who is responsible
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  Speaker 1: for looking into these matters on behalf of the American people.
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  Speaker 1: This is just one more in a long, long, painfully
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  Speaker 1: long list of illustrations of them refusing to give you
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  Speaker 1: or anybody else access to information, whether it's physical information
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  Speaker 1: like video tape evidence. You can't talk to people these
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  Speaker 1: interferences with your ability the Q and A people who
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  Speaker 1: are behind the scenes that have the information. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is beyond I want to use the word troubling,
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  Speaker 1: but that just doesn't emphasize the problem enough.
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  Speaker 2: Congress from Massey, and when you talk about my authority
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  Speaker 2: or responsibility to do oversight, that's a particular responsibility because
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  Speaker 2: I'm on the judiciary right, we have oversight over FBI,
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  Speaker 2: DOJ and ATF, which is why I have asked them
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  Speaker 2: all about January sixth and these public hearings. I asked
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  Speaker 2: agent or the FBI director Dental Bock, if these pipe
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  Speaker 2: bombs were viable devices, could they have ever gone off?
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  Speaker 2: And they never got a straight answer from him. The
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  Speaker 2: reality is you can't set a pipe bomb off sixteen
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  Speaker 2: hours later with a sixty minute kitchen timer. These pipe
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  Speaker 2: BOMs had like the little egg timers you see at Walmart,
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  Speaker 2: and so many people have them in their kitchens. That was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and the FBI story for five years has
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  Speaker 2: been that the bombs were set, you know, the night before,
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  Speaker 2: not the day of January sixth. There's so much of
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  Speaker 2: this that doesn't add up. There's also this new there's
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  Speaker 2: a couple new revelations that have come out in the
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  Speaker 2: last month. By the way, this is another suspicious thing.
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  Speaker 2: Barry Loudermilk's committee as well as an investigative journalist at
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  Speaker 2: The Blaze, came out with new information that implicated Capitol
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  Speaker 2: Hill Police. Two new pieces of information, and within a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks the FBI goes and nabs somebody that is
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  Speaker 2: allegedly autistic and evaded the FBI for five years. But
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  Speaker 2: the new information is that somebody used a Metro card
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  Speaker 2: and that belonged to a government employee that a Metro
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  Speaker 2: card had only and then used twice on January fifth
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  Speaker 2: and January sixth. They've got this guy on video and
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  Speaker 2: when they traced the Metro card owner. It turns out
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  Speaker 2: the FBI had staked this guy out for a week
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  Speaker 2: and then we're called off of it. But he lives
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  Speaker 2: next door to a Capitol Hill police officer that lives
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  Speaker 2: like twelve miles away from DC. We're not talking about
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  Speaker 2: two people that and when I say next door, they
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  Speaker 2: share a wall, Okay, and they it's crazy. But the
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  Speaker 2: FBI has video of the person who used that Metro
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  Speaker 2: card casing one of the locations that the pipe bomb
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  Speaker 2: was placed. He's there on January fifth, taking pictures and
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  Speaker 2: he gets on before he gets out of the subway,
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  Speaker 2: he puts on a hood, he puts on a mask,
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  Speaker 2: he puts on glasses so he can't see who it is,
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  Speaker 2: not glasses, but he puts on a totally different change.
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  Speaker 2: The FBI I quit track in that person. Still to
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  Speaker 2: this day, Cash Patel doesn't have a a story for
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  Speaker 2: why they didn't keep going after that guy. Anyways, I
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  Speaker 2: know this is a lot of information to dump on
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  Speaker 2: your listeners. You can watch there's a video that Kyle
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  Speaker 2: Saraffin put out that goes over this. There's a video
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  Speaker 2: on Free the People of Me and Steve Baker, who's
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  Speaker 2: the investigative journalist at The Blaze. We spent about an
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  Speaker 2: hour talking about in this case, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: do another interview today for about an hour going through
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  Speaker 2: the state of play with this case. But the reason
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  Speaker 2: your listeners should care is this may have been a
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  Speaker 2: conspiracy by the left that involved parts of our government
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  Speaker 2: who either it's no longer possible to believe that they
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  Speaker 2: were this inept because they've been lying. This may have
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  Speaker 2: been a conspiracy to incite riot at the Capitol or
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  Speaker 2: to make it or to make it look like President
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  Speaker 2: Trump was part of this, and to discredit the entire right. Well, continuing, yes,
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  Speaker 2: one last thing. The prosecutor they put in charge of
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  Speaker 2: this case this week is the one who tried to
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  Speaker 2: prosecute General Michael Flynn and the one who tried to
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  Speaker 2: get false, false confessions from the Proud Boy. She convicted
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  Speaker 2: the Proud Boys. She's notorious for dealing with altered evidence
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  Speaker 2: in order to convict people and Trump's sphere, and the
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  Speaker 2: deal she offered to one of the Proud Boys was
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  Speaker 2: if you'll implicate President Trump, will give you a lighter sentence.
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  Speaker 2: Why the heck is she still working at the CEOJ
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  Speaker 2: and why did they put her on this case?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Who's in charge of that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean you would think it would be Pam BONDI.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, you would think apparently not. Congress from Thomas Massey, frightening,
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  Speaker 1: frightening revelations. This morning, we'll continue with Congressman Massy real
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  Speaker 1: Bryan Thomas, the Congressman Thomas Massey, You follow by Jude
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  Speaker 1: Jenner Polatano. Since Judge of Paulatanna wants to talk about
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  Speaker 1: blowing up drug smugglers fifteen hundred miles away, I'll bring
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  Speaker 1: it up to your attention. I know you and Massey,
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  Speaker 1: are you and Napolitano and even I feel on the
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  Speaker 1: same side on that. I'm worried. And now Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 1: talking about dropping bombs on Venezuela. Congressman Thomas Massey, it
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  Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be up for a vote.
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  Speaker 1: Do we need an authorization to use of military force?
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  Speaker 1: Do we need a declaration of war? What happens if
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  Speaker 1: neither of those passes were kind of status quo, which
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  Speaker 1: means Donald Trump's going to continue bombing Congressman.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there should be a vote on it, and there
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been a vote on it. Even with the you know,
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  Speaker 2: isolated incidents of killing let's say Solomony or other terrorists
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  Speaker 2: or people associated with terrorists, they're operating off of two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and one AUMF that authorized and i'll put in
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  Speaker 2: quotes air quotes authorized global war on Terror. But you
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  Speaker 2: have to be al Qaeda or an associate of al
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  Speaker 2: Qaeda to be covered by that global war on terror.
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  Speaker 2: There is no AUMF authorization use of military force that's
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  Speaker 2: been passed by Congress to authorize at tax on Venezuela
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  Speaker 2: or its proxies. It just doesn't exist. And the problem
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  Speaker 2: with what's going on right now, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 2: whole controversy over the double tap where they may have
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  Speaker 2: bombed a boat and there were a couple of survivors
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  Speaker 2: and they went back and killed the survivors. If this
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  Speaker 2: had been a true war, you know, let's say you
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  Speaker 2: were in Afghanistan there was a convoy of terrorists with
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  Speaker 2: machine guns, and you know, armored vehicles and bombs. And
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  Speaker 2: I've talked to some of my military friends. They say, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we would, we go back and clean up, and if
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  Speaker 2: we didn't get all the terrorists in that convoy, we
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  Speaker 2: go back and kill the rest of them or enemy
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  Speaker 2: combatants for instance. But this is different. What they've done
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  Speaker 2: is they've blurred the line between a police action and
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  Speaker 2: a military action. They're not saying that these people had
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  Speaker 2: guns on the boats and that there was an imminent
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  Speaker 2: threat that they could get up and pick up a
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  Speaker 2: gun and shoot the plane or whatever. And so I
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  Speaker 2: think that's where we're running into the moral, the ethical,
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  Speaker 2: and the legal issues. Is they're trying to take something
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  Speaker 2: which is ostensibly a police action, which is to stop
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  Speaker 2: drugs from being run, and turn it into a military action.
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  Speaker 2: And that with the bigger problem here is they want
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  Speaker 2: regime change in Venezuela. And this is probably more about
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  Speaker 2: overthrowing a country or a or a leader of a country,
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  Speaker 2: whether he be a dictator or not. Then it is
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  Speaker 2: about stopping the flow of drugs. If it was about
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  Speaker 2: stopping to flow of drugs, and you could bomb any
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  Speaker 2: vote that had drugs on it would be bombing the
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  Speaker 2: posts from China to Mexico that carry the precursors oft ventanyl.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but you see, they're a military power that has
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  Speaker 1: nuclear weapons and a very strong military, and we've had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of geopolitical realities to deal with with China,
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  Speaker 1: so there's no way in hell we're going to touch them.
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  Speaker 1: But you go to Venezuela where there's very barely an
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  Speaker 1: army you could call, or a military you could even
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  Speaker 1: call a standing military. Apparently they're so ill equipped and
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  Speaker 1: poorly trained, and they've lost a lot of their global
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  Speaker 1: support Venezuela has, so you're it's an easy target.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, and and just to close this out, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that there will be a vote on it,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm trying to force a vote. I have co
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  Speaker 2: sponsored a War Powers Act here in Congress to say
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  Speaker 2: that you either have to withdraw hostilities against Venezuela or
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  Speaker 2: you got to get an authorization from Congress. That's just
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  Speaker 2: like constitutional common sense. So I've co sponsored that, and
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  Speaker 2: there's a good chance we can force a vote on
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  Speaker 2: that because there are parliamentary procedures that let you do that.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of forcing a vote, I know we just have
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  Speaker 2: a few minutes. I wanted to give you an up
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  Speaker 2: date on the Epstein five. Oh Yeahrsparracy. Okay, So we
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  Speaker 2: got that passed in the House. Everybody opposed me until
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  Speaker 2: they saw I was going to win, and the vote
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  Speaker 2: was four hundred and twenty seven to one. The Senate
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  Speaker 2: has never passed a bill so quickly. In fact, they
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  Speaker 2: passed my bill before it got there. They made a
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  Speaker 2: unanimous consent to say, as soon as Massey's bill gets
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  Speaker 2: to the Senate, it's going to be passed already. So
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  Speaker 2: it went straight to the President's desk. They have until
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  Speaker 2: we gave them thirty days the DOJ and FBI to
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  Speaker 2: release this, not to Congress, not to the Speaker, not
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  Speaker 2: to some chair of some committee, but to the public
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  Speaker 2: in a searchable format, not drips and drabs that you
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  Speaker 2: can't have to get AI to sort through. This has
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  Speaker 2: to be in a public searchable format by December nineteenth.
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  Speaker 2: So they've got nine days to produce all the material.
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  Speaker 2: They are supposed to react redact the child sexual material,
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  Speaker 2: exploitation material, and the victims' names, but everything else has
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  Speaker 2: to be published within nine days. And two great things
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  Speaker 2: that have happened already. There are three cases that had
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  Speaker 2: grand jury material that was sealed. There was the original
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  Speaker 2: Epstein case in Florida, there was the Julane Maxwell case,
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  Speaker 2: and then there's the second Epstein case that he went
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  Speaker 2: to prison for in New York. The DOJ was told
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  Speaker 2: when they asked for the grand jury material to be
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  Speaker 2: released that the law wouldn't allow them to release it,
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  Speaker 2: and so the judges wouldn't release it. But the DOJ,
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  Speaker 2: to their credit, went back to these courts and said,
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  Speaker 2: now that Massey's bill has passed, can you release them?
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  Speaker 2: And of the two of the three judges have said, yes,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna We're going to override like new laws override
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  Speaker 2: old laws. I think I've said this on your radio
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  Speaker 2: show before. This is just common sense too. People were like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you can't relese grand jury material. I'm but this is
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  Speaker 2: a law, and it overrides the old laws or the
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  Speaker 2: or even things that are just precedent. So two of
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  Speaker 2: the three judges have said, yeah, we're going to release
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  Speaker 2: the grand grand jury material. After we redact victims' names,
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  Speaker 2: we'll give it to the DOJ so they'll be in
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  Speaker 2: possession of that. The third judge just hasn't ruled yet. Well,
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  Speaker 2: and so that's that's the development, that's big, that's already happened.
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  Speaker 1: Popcorn has been out some people viewing this as a
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  Speaker 1: distraction from the broader problems, like for example, bombing boats
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  Speaker 1: off the coast of that as well, and engaging in
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  Speaker 1: war without an authorization to use the military force or
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  Speaker 1: a declaration. Judging of Polatan is waiting in the wings.
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  Speaker 1: I threw that in there for his edification. So Congressman
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  Speaker 1: Thomas Massey, Hello from Judge Enden of Politano, and I
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  Speaker 1: will say hello from you to him as he's waving.
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  Speaker 1: God bless you, sir. I appreciate what you're doing. Keep
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  Speaker 1: up the great work, and let's get that information out there,
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  Speaker 1: most notably about the Jay six bomber man. That is
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  Speaker 1: scary stuff you brought to our attention this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Merry Christmas to you, to your listeners, and especially
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  Speaker 2: to Judging of Politano.
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  Speaker 1: Right back at you, Merry Christmas, Congressman Thomas Massey to
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  Speaker 1: you and your loved ones. We'll talk again after the
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  Speaker 1: first of the year, and I look forward to that.
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  Speaker 1: It's coming up at eight twenty nine. Judge of Polatana
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  Speaker 1: waiting in the wings, be right back fifty five KRC.
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