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One Piece, 708 & 709 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering one piece episodes seven eight and seven nine, an
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  Speaker 1: intense battle Law versus Do Flamingo, and a decisive battle
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  Speaker 1: against the executives Proud Hajhrudin. In these episodes, Loofy.
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  Speaker 2: Manages to.
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  Speaker 1: Handle fake Mingo, but it still doesn't really go the
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  Speaker 1: way that he expects. Meanwhile, Zora is still over here
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  Speaker 1: fighting Pica and there is a surprising result for Law
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  Speaker 1: that I'm wondering how that's going to be dealt with.
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  Speaker 1: It's I saw it coming and I just didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to Welcome to spoil Me. Welcome to the show everyone.
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  Speaker 1: I am Natasha. Thank you very much to Florian for
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  Speaker 1: commissioning this episode. So, yeah, these two were continuing on
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  Speaker 1: with the fights, and I will say that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there have been plenty of times where a single fight
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  Speaker 1: has taken like twenty episodes to get through, and I
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  Speaker 1: will start to get very, very tired of it. And
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  Speaker 1: I have found myself pleasantly surprised that I am not
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  Speaker 1: feeling that kind of like tedium from this fight. I
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  Speaker 1: think that there's a number of factors going on here
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  Speaker 1: that it's a combination of there being like some change
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  Speaker 1: in the scenery, so to speak, when our friends are
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  Speaker 1: when Lufy is like, you know, inside, and then he
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  Speaker 1: winds up on the roof, and that just like gives
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  Speaker 1: it enough of a change to make it feel like
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  Speaker 1: we're progressing and doing something different. There's also like having
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  Speaker 1: Bellamy in the mix as somebody who is being victimized
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  Speaker 1: and also fighting adds a dimension of like, I want
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  Speaker 1: Lufy to fix things with this guy first so that
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  Speaker 1: he isn't hurting him, so it's not just like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're dealing with both getting Bellamy out of the way
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  Speaker 1: and also fake Do Flamingo and so all of this.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, while it would often feel like we're just
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  Speaker 1: setting up these mini bosses for him to get through,
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  Speaker 1: YadA YadA, there is a certain amount of narrative satisfaction
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  Speaker 1: in the fact that Law is the one fighting Do
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  Speaker 1: Flamingo while Lufy is fighting the fake Because even though
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  Speaker 1: I believe that in the end Lufy is going to
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  Speaker 1: be clutch in defeating Do Flamingo, he doesn't have the
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  Speaker 1: history with the guy that Law has, and it's really
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  Speaker 1: difficult to like for me to feel the same sort
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  Speaker 1: of I'm trying to think of the wording here. There
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  Speaker 1: are some characters that it feels like have more of
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  Speaker 1: a right to be fighting other characters, and Lufy fighting
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  Speaker 1: Do Flamingo and going on for a while. There's just
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  Speaker 1: a lack of like personal connection between them that would
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  Speaker 1: keep that from being as interesting. So I think that overall,
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  Speaker 1: even though this has been dragged on some time and
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  Speaker 1: I could see certain people being irritated by it, overall,
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  Speaker 1: I have to say that I'm pleasantly surprised by how
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  Speaker 1: cohesive it has all seemed, and how despite the fact
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  Speaker 1: that it is going on a minute, it doesn't feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm rolling my eyes, going, oh my god, are
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  Speaker 1: we fucking done yet?
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  Speaker 2: You know. And it's really interesting to me.
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  Speaker 1: To see the moments where the show manages to pull
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  Speaker 1: this off versus when it doesn't, because it just feels
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  Speaker 1: so much less lazy here because we have so much
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  Speaker 1: establishing of the backstory between Do Flamingo and Law and like,
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  Speaker 1: it's funny because there have been plenty of other times
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  Speaker 1: where a character's backstory has been established with somebody and
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  Speaker 1: it still kind of felt like nothing when they faced off,
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's just that they really took their time,
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  Speaker 1: and Law's storyline was rich enough, and the whole thing
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  Speaker 1: with like Corassone, the series of tragedies that befell Law,
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  Speaker 1: and then how pure hearted Corasone was, and the way
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  Speaker 1: that do Flamingo just like disrespected him and didn't take
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  Speaker 1: him seriously really.
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  Speaker 2: Or like.
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  Speaker 1: He just the way that he brushes off having murdered him.
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  Speaker 1: There's just a lot more here that feels like better storytelling,
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  Speaker 1: better put together, and it just all matters more.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: So overall, I am still enjoying things, but I will
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  Speaker 1: say at this point, I am about ready for us
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  Speaker 1: to wrap this up. I think if this fight, like
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  Speaker 1: the fight itself, not necessarily the arc, but the fight here,
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  Speaker 1: if this goes on for like another six episodes, I
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  Speaker 1: think I'm going to be.
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  Speaker 2: About ready to get irritated. You know. I'm hoping.
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  Speaker 1: We are approaching the actual end of it. So let's see.
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  Speaker 1: So when we pick up here, we do a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: you know, of recovering old ground, as we do in
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  Speaker 1: this show, with the reminder of the monkey D and
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  Speaker 1: Law having the middle name D as well, and I
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  Speaker 1: just the whole thing with D and when Dofla Mingo says, like.
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  Speaker 2: Law says, I'm also a D. You're a D? Is
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  Speaker 2: that what you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys. I'm sorry, but it's very
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  Speaker 1: very funny. You think you can stop me because of
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  Speaker 1: some letter.
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  Speaker 2: In your name.
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  Speaker 1: And honestly, I said this before. I just really feel
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  Speaker 1: the same way that he does as at right now
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  Speaker 1: because this whole thing with like the middle name being significant,
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  Speaker 1: it just doesn't make any sense to me. You guys,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't get this, and I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: am missing something because it's being played around. Like you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're on episode seven hundred now, we're finally finding out
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  Speaker 1: what the alleged significance of the letter is where they're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be like the enemies of the gods or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But I still feel like that D. When it's a
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  Speaker 1: middle name, you can give your kid whatever middle name.
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  Speaker 3: And I I have faith that the show is eventually
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  Speaker 3: going to give us an explanation on how the people
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  Speaker 3: who got the middle name D got that D.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, guys, but get that D. I just
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  Speaker 2: it's very difficult.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sure we will get to a place where
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  Speaker 1: this will be explained. I feel like waiting this long
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  Speaker 1: is a mistake. I just don't think this question about
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  Speaker 1: the middle name D is as interesting without any other
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  Speaker 1: information as Oda seems to think it is. And I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if I'm the only one that feels that way, because,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I feel like there have been a few
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  Speaker 1: times where you guys have been sure to point out
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  Speaker 1: to me, I'll remember, his middle name has D in it,
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  Speaker 1: and I've been like, oh yeah, and you've pointed it
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  Speaker 1: out like this is something that really matters, and then
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  Speaker 1: later on I've sort of been like, why did it matter?
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  Speaker 1: You know, Like I get that it's clearly meant to
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  Speaker 1: mean something, but it's been drawn out so much by
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  Speaker 1: now and with no real explanation that makes sense or
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  Speaker 1: works for me, and I just want more information that's
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  Speaker 1: more than just like the legend around what it means. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: the legend around what it means has very little to
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  Speaker 1: do at this point with where my confusion is coming from.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody on the face of Earth can have any middle
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  Speaker 1: name they want, So if that's not the truth in
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  Speaker 1: this world, and when I say they want, I mean
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  Speaker 1: their parents obviously, but like, if that is or is
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  Speaker 1: not true in Lufi's universe. Why or why not tell
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  Speaker 1: me what the hell this? It just feels so arbitrary.
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  Speaker 1: Is it supposed to be that somebody insists that their
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  Speaker 1: child has the middle name D, so you can just
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  Speaker 1: assign it, and then that person turns into the enemy
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  Speaker 1: of the gods, whether they want it to be or not,
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  Speaker 1: simply because of how like the naming convention that you chose.
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  Speaker 1: Is it that the D is like magically assigned to
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  Speaker 1: them by an angel that swoops down from heaven and
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  Speaker 1: says that you have been impregnated by the Lord himself
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  Speaker 1: and your child.
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  Speaker 2: Has a middle name of D.
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  Speaker 1: Like all of the way that the middle name thing
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  Speaker 1: works is dumb and stupid and bad, and I really
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  Speaker 1: don't want to feel like this anymore. But they keep
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  Speaker 1: hammering away at it, and it's nothing right now, and
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  Speaker 1: I am sick of hearing it unless you're actually going
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  Speaker 1: to give me some real information on how this works,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So it'd be one thing if it was
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  Speaker 1: like everybody who has this birthmark, everybody who was born
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  Speaker 1: with red eyes, something that's beyond your control, that feels
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  Speaker 1: like fate. But a name that ties everybody together like
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  Speaker 1: that can just be orchestrated by anybody that can be
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  Speaker 1: there's and maybe that's the point. Maybe that's the point,
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  Speaker 1: But it just feels like it's being spoken about here
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  Speaker 1: as if it's somehow this like hallowed, sacred thing, which
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  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like a guy just got a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: women pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: And told her to give the baby the middle name D.
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  Speaker 2: Which that's the real thing that it feels like to
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  Speaker 2: me right now.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, when I say that I'm like getting irritated
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  Speaker 1: over this, it's not the tedium of the fight. It's
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  Speaker 1: the fucking D thing that keeps coming up. So we
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  Speaker 1: go on with this fight between Law and do Flamingo.
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  Speaker 1: Law keeps getting close, he keeps almost landing his hits,
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  Speaker 1: and at one point it's fucking Trouble, who somehow manages
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  Speaker 1: to interfere and then like taunts Law really bad about
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  Speaker 1: how like, oh, I thought you were gonna do something
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  Speaker 1: really cool, but you didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 4: What was that?
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  Speaker 2: I bet you're real sad that you didn't hit Law? Hey, hey,
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  Speaker 2: are you ignoring me? Not even gonna?
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  Speaker 1: I swear to got to hate this guy so much.
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  Speaker 1: I was watching this when Marshall came into the room,
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  Speaker 1: and as when he saw Treble's face, he started cracking up.
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  Speaker 1: He was just like, oh my god. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I hate him so much. And it was sort of
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  Speaker 1: odd to me because I was expecting Do Flamingo to
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  Speaker 1: be really annoyed with Trouble, but he seems fine with
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  Speaker 1: him interfering, so I guess he doesn't have a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot of pride on that particular point. So this is
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  Speaker 1: when Law slices off a whole corner of the tower
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  Speaker 1: of like the I say the tower. It's like he
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  Speaker 1: slices off the corner of the building that has a
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  Speaker 1: tower attached to it, and he starts to lift it
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  Speaker 1: and to get it to like fall down on Do Flamingo,
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  Speaker 1: and Dophie uses his strings to make like a smaller
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  Speaker 1: dome around himself like the bird cage, but I think
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  Speaker 1: he calls it spider web and stops it from actually
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  Speaker 1: hitting and it breaks off into pieces. And at this
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  Speaker 1: point they start to go up into the air to
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  Speaker 1: do their fighting, and Law tries to do a shambles.
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  Speaker 1: He reaches towards Do Flamingo and Dophie grabs his hand
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  Speaker 1: and catches it in midair and says these pathetic attacks
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  Speaker 1: degrade us both. You think you can just win because
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  Speaker 1: you are so like pure of heart or so passionate
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  Speaker 1: about it that is so sentimental. I thought that you
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  Speaker 1: were a logical person, but you came in here instead
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  Speaker 1: with emotion. And this is not going to cut it,
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  Speaker 1: my friend. And as he's holding his hand in place,
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  Speaker 1: I'm seeing that he has lifted his foot and put
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  Speaker 1: his foot.
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  Speaker 2: On Law's arm, and I was.
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  Speaker 1: Already like, oh no, because that really looks like he's
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  Speaker 1: about to break.
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  Speaker 2: His arm in half, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And as he's doing this, he is reminding Law about
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  Speaker 1: that note that he was given to hand off by
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  Speaker 1: Corrasson and reminds him about the whole like, yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: were the one who were tasked with this and then
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  Speaker 1: everything went to hell because you gave it to the
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  Speaker 1: wrong person. None of the tragedies that happened on Dress
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  Speaker 1: Rosa would even have occurred if you were able to
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  Speaker 1: do your job, you know, basically trying to sort of
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  Speaker 1: get him to collapse from what do you call it from?
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  Speaker 1: Like just discouragement and shame, which I suppose, but it
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  Speaker 1: did feel kind of weak to me, and I was
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  Speaker 1: relieved that what Law says in response, is you don't
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  Speaker 1: even believe that? I felt like that was a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good reply. It just felt very.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, man.
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  Speaker 1: It was almost as if he was repeating back to
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  Speaker 1: Do Flamingo. This pathetic attack degrades us both, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So anyway, I just really this moment
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  Speaker 1: goes on for a minute, and then eventually when he
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  Speaker 1: says like, you don't even believe that, he says, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what, the throne would have still been mine,
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  Speaker 1: still would have gotten dressed rose, I would have found
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  Speaker 1: a way.
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  Speaker 2: To make all of this happen.
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  Speaker 1: I guess anyway, and then he gives him this big
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  Speaker 1: smile and he begins to catapult them toward the ground
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  Speaker 1: as he's talking about certain things that we do etch
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  Speaker 1: our legacy in stone, and he's saying, like, what is
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  Speaker 1: about to happen here today?
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  Speaker 2: This is it for you?
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  Speaker 1: And they land hard and you see laws like eyes widen,
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  Speaker 1: and then the camera pulls back and his arm is
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  Speaker 1: laying a foot away. I don't I'm assuming that the
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  Speaker 1: what Do Flamingo did was like the string that was attached.
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  Speaker 1: Oh strings, saw is what Treble says. Yeah, So once
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  Speaker 1: they land because he has this leverage on him as
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  Speaker 1: they hit the ground that slices Law's arm off. This
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  Speaker 1: was surprisingly gruesome for this show. I was genuinely surprised.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that because you know, I've said already about
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  Speaker 1: how when what's his face is like got cut off Kiros,
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  Speaker 1: it was like nothing. We barely treated it like it
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  Speaker 1: was slowing him down. But here it's quite bloody and
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  Speaker 1: he is just rolling around screaming for quite some time.
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  Speaker 1: It really is pretty rough to watch, actually, but in
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  Speaker 1: a way that I felt worked really well, and overall
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  Speaker 1: I liked this scene.
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  Speaker 2: I felt like.
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  Speaker 1: It.
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  Speaker 2: I still believe that we're coming out on top, but.
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  Speaker 1: This is a huge wound to sustain, and it's enough
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  Speaker 1: to make me worry whether or not his power is
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  Speaker 1: going to be quite usable. I'm assuming that he can
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  Speaker 1: do plenty of it without both hands, but I'm not
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  Speaker 1: totally sure how that works. And there's just a it
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  Speaker 1: feels like we are really paying a price here in
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  Speaker 1: a way that sometimes this show has trouble nailing that vibe,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I just personally really
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  Speaker 1: really appreciated feeling like this is a this is real,
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  Speaker 1: We're having a loss that feels significant, and that's all
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  Speaker 1: I ask for most of the time is a sense
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  Speaker 1: of real what's the word I want here? Real stakes.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing that I can find the most difficult
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  Speaker 1: with this show is I can accept that people are
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  Speaker 1: mostly not going to die, but then we need to
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  Speaker 1: have some real consequences. And I hope very very much
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  Speaker 1: that we are not going to get a hole. Oh
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  Speaker 1: he like we managed to give him a fake arm.
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  Speaker 2: That's just as good.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm not trying to say that wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: like a fair storytelling thing. What I'm saying is there
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  Speaker 1: are times within stories where what feels like should be
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  Speaker 1: a significant loss is played as if once we find
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  Speaker 1: a solution, that loss never occurred at all. I am
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  Speaker 1: hoping that this loss continues to feel as significant as
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  Speaker 1: it seems. But it's possible that like Frankie is going
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  Speaker 1: to fix him up and he's going to go right
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  Speaker 1: back to how things were, just with a new arm,
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  Speaker 1: and he'll be totally fine. And I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: that would necessarily make this sacrifice nothing. I would like
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  Speaker 1: for there to feel like there's a difference in his life, though,
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  Speaker 1: that he really did sacrifice something real and it was
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  Speaker 1: in exchange for something significant that mattered to him. That's
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  Speaker 1: all I'm asking. So overall this moment, I really really enjoyed.
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  Speaker 1: I was sort of expecting Loofy to like talk more
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  Speaker 1: about that once he came up onto the roof and
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  Speaker 1: saw it, but he is a little distracted. So that's understandable.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about Loufy and Bellamy, because we get
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  Speaker 1: to this place where Bellamy is, you know, he's still
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  Speaker 1: like being controlled to fight Lufy, and it's so sad
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  Speaker 1: because what Bellamy eventually come like decides is I want
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  Speaker 1: you to kill me. I am so sure that there
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  Speaker 1: is no like end of this for me. I am
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  Speaker 1: just suffering. Just let me die. And Lufy of course,
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  Speaker 1: refuses to do that. He says, I'm kicking one ass
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  Speaker 1: mingos and the real one, not that puppet. Meanwhile, Bellamy
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  Speaker 1: is saying, I'm begging you, I'm you know you please,
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  Speaker 1: you can end my suffering.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you make me suffer like this? Just let
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  Speaker 2: it end?
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  Speaker 1: A compelling argument, I have to admit. He starts to
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  Speaker 1: get like tears in his eyes, and for a second
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  Speaker 1: I kind of wonder to Lufy was going to do
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  Speaker 1: it because he seemed so shaken by it. But then
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  Speaker 1: fake do Flamingo bashes the two of them apart and
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  Speaker 1: grabs him by the head and says, you really are useless,
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  Speaker 1: aren't you? As a pirate and now as a puppet too,
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  Speaker 1: And he starts to taunt Lufy holds him up and
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  Speaker 1: just just like, yeah, why don't you do it? Why
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  Speaker 1: don't you go ahead and fucking put him out of
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  Speaker 1: his misery then and sort of like shoves him Bellamy
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  Speaker 1: toward Loofy, and then there's this odd sort of effect
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  Speaker 1: where both of them they're like silhouettes in the animation
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  Speaker 1: multiply for a second and both he and Lufy have
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  Speaker 1: this happen. I wasn't totally sure if that was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to indicate something with Hockey or if that's just you know,
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  Speaker 1: a stylistic like, oh, and now they're facing off kind
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  Speaker 1: of moment, But it felt like it meant something, and
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  Speaker 1: I really wasn't sure what. So I am only briefly
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about what's going on with Zorro and
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  Speaker 1: Pica because we have a couple of other characters jumping
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  Speaker 1: in on this one.
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  Speaker 2: There is this.
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  Speaker 1: Point where all of these soldiers are hanging around there.
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  Speaker 1: I say soldiers because that makes it sound like they're
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  Speaker 1: on the side of like the Marines, but these are
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: guys that work for Do Flamingo, so they are on
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Pika's side really, and they aren't sure how the battle
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: is going between Pica and Zorro, and they're sort of
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: feeling like maybe if they can help out, they will
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: come over and throw in.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: On this fight.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: And at one point it's very funny because Pica sort
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: of is beginning to like dart around and mix it
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: up a little bit with Zorro, and I won't go
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: so far as to say he's playing hide and seek,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: but it seems like he's just more trying to prove
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that just because Zorro knows how to fight him doesn't
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: mean that that's the end of it. And as Zoro
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: is chasing him, he runs into some of these peons
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: who very amusingly, in my opinion, say something like, hey you,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: that's this is the end of the line for you.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Why don't you just give up?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: And it's so hysterically funny to me that these guys
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: would genuinely and with their whole throats say we will
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: take care of you, even though Peka the giant stone monster.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: He wasn't able.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: To do it, but will do it? Guys, no offense,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: No you won't.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you're very hard workers. I have no doubt
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: that you are doing your best. But you really think
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: that these two forces of nature colliding over here that
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: have failed to take one another down, your little scrawny
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: ass is off to the side, that you're gonna be
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the ones to do it?
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Really? Is that? Come now?
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: It was just honestly embarrassing, and of course, like it's
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: they are taken care of, but it's not even Zoro
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: that winds up doing it. So there's this pirate that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: comes rolling up, and it was so odd because at
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: first I couldn't remember whose side he was on, right,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: So he just yells out to these guys. I'm trying
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: to remember what he says exactly, something like form up commodore.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Dignity is his name, I believe, and he says a ten.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And as he says this, all of the dudes just
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: immediately stand to attention. I was thinking that he was
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: like an intimidating figure of dopies, and they see him
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: coming and he gives an order and they just do
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: what they're fucking told because he said too and that
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it was that simple. And it wasn't until a little
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: bit later when I realized that they are being controlled
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: by him. So they all stand up straight, and he says,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: count off, and they all count down to ten, and
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: one of them starts saying, no, sir, please have mercy
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: on me. No, And he picks that guy up, rolls
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: him up in a ball, and chucks him while yelling
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: killer bowling, and flings that man at his fellows like
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: a bowling ball, and that man knocks all of those
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: men off their feet and they go flying. Now, guys,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go so far as to say
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: that this is utter and total nonsense.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like it is, but I don't want to
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: say it.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: But first of all, he calls it killer bowling, and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: nobody died, and I'm gonna be real, I don't see
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: how they would have. There's nothing in this attack that
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: feels to me like it would have actually ended in
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: anybody's death. So for me, that part is just like irrelevant.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I just feel like the the way that like Zorro
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: swings past him and it's like, hey, nice one, I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: suppose I mean I'm glad the guy helped.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: It just feels like such a.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Weird moment, like is the guy actually making these dudes
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: stand to attention or is he just so forceful in
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the way that he handles himself and says the thing
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that they snap to attention because he carries a weight
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: of authority to his voice. Maybe that's supposed to be
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: what it is.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I really am not sure.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I wish I knew a little bit more about like
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: how this worked. But all this to say, he takes
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: care of these guys, and it says, my oh, his
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: name is or Lumbus. If this battle were at sea,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I would have rained terror upon my foes with my fleet.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: But since I'm short handed, I'll have to leave that
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: stone monster to you. And Zorro says, no problem. He's
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: still looking for Pika, who winds up sticking his head
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: out of the side of the whole mountain. It turns
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: out that he's like taken over the entire plateau basically,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and he starts laughing, and Zoro makes fun of his laugh,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and it's just like, I am so sorry, there is
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: no way that's your real laugh. That sounds insane, That
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: is nonsense, and Pica gets real mad and tries to
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: like thrust this pillar of stone out at him. But
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the thing is that, like, despite this guy being very huge,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: his movements being as slow as they are, are pretty
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: easy to avoid. I think that's really the problem here
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: with the scale of his attacks. It's just like you
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: could see it coming from a mile away, like almost
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: literally a mile away. So let's see, I'm going so okay.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: At the end of this episode is the point where
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Lufy finally decides that he's going to go for second gear.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Bellamy is like running at him, and Lufy leaps over
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: his head, puts his hand on Bellamy's head for like
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a push of leverage, and then does gum gum red
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: hawk and he comes straight at fake Mingo and uses
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: hockey to reinforce his punch, and he punches Mingo Fake
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Mingo in the gut, and the dude begins to unravel
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: from the spot where he has been punched. Honestly, it
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: was very satisfying.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I liked this moment.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: It's just like, even though this isn't the real Mingo,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: he still has the same fucking attitude and the same
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: like snotty little pissy tone of voice. And whatnot, and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I was very sick of hearing his shit.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: So he gets he.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: It takes a while, like he starts to unravel, but
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Lufy winds up having to like punch him apart, which
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that goes on for a while where he's doing that
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: like gatling gun thing. I do wonder because Bellamy's on
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the ground watching him do it the whole time, and
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, does Bellamy what does that even look
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: like to him?
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: And as Lufy is doing this up on the roof
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Dofel Mingo is getting ready to execute law and he's
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: talking about how he has a lead bullet in his
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: gun and you know, the whole fucking nine yards and
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: then just as he is about to pull the trigger,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and fake Mingo comes shooting up like through the roof
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and ascend into the air in this cloud and do Flamingo,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: thoroughly distracted, looks up to see the fake version of
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: himself shattering into a bunch of pieces, and I can't
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: help but laugh about how Trouble is just like, oh no, oh,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: he's in a bunch of pieces, and he's just like
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: this is awful. He got busted up, And I was like,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: is it that awful, Like it's not even the real Mingo,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm assuming that he can make another one. Maybe
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: he can't do it that easily. Maybe this is like
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a project for him, and that's why the trouble just
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: seems to react so strongly in a way that I
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: was sort of like relax, buddy, and.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Dol fla.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Mingo, for his part, says, I suppose the cage was
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: a bit too small. I should have known you wouldn't
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: be so easy to Lufy meanwhile, is like, are you
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: fucking listening? Oh my god, I'm talking to you. And
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: because he said, now it's time for us to fight,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: let's fucking get down to it. So we jump into
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the next episode and we have a flashback here this
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: was oh uh, it's started by do Flamingo like comes
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: over to the area, Like I'm trying to see the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: spot exactly how this happens, because Looviy briefly is on
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the roof and he's yelling at do Flamingo right, and
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, when we start the next episode,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: he's down below again.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I don't understand if I.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Miss something, because I'm like going back and rewatching this
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: now and it looks like we go straight. Maybe he
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: didn't get up on the roof that time. I thought
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: that he followed fake Dophie out and then landed on
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the roof after the pieces fell down. I could have sworn,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: but he's down with Bellamy still. When the second episode opens,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and it's this weird thing where, first of all, there's
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: one of the most devastating lines here, you guys, where
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Lufy is saying, you've got to stop it enough for this,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: let him go. Doffl Mingo says, you don't have to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: yell like that.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I can hear you, and.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Lufy says Mingo, come on, let Bellamy go. He's gonna die,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and doffl Mingo says, oh, I didn't realize he was
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: still alive, you guys. That absolutely shredded me. I don't
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: know why that one got me so bad, but like,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I just thought he was a corpse that I was
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: using to fight you, and I was fine with that
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: he's still alive. Interesting, I suppose it, like there's just
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: something about it that's so.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Friggin cold blooded. I was not ready. Oh God, that
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: one got me.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: That really did. And the way that Bellamy reacts when
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: he says that because like dol Flamingo is smiling when
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: he says it, and I feel like this is maybe
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the most intense evidence that Del Flamingo does not care
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: about him, and the fact that Bellamy is still out
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: here looking for like validation. It's really sad. So Dol
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Flamingo releases.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Him and says, it's fine, I've had my fun.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: You're free of me for now, just like you've always
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: been right. And Bellamy gets this expression on his face
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: when he says that, And this is when we start
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the flashback, and we find out that Bellamy, way back
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: when came to Dol Flamingo wanting to be a part
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: of his crew, and dol Flamingo said that he could
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: fly his Jolly Roger if he wanted, but if you
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: are ever defeated, you have to give it up. And
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: he immediately agrees and is like, yeah, no problem, nobody's
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: ever gonna beat me. And then of course we have
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: the flashback of how he got so roundly beaten by
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Loofy and.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I had forgotten how like completely.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't like to use this word because
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: it's an old word that was used by a lot
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: of fucking goobers. So I shy away from it, but
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna use it here because I just don't really
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: think there's a better way of saying this. I had
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: forgotten how thoroughly fucking poned he got by Loofy, because
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: we get the flashback to him with his freaking bouncy
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: spring power, you know, and he puts on this fucking
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: performance of bouncing all over the freaking place until Lufy
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: just with a single punch like stops him mid air.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: He's what he's trying.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: To do in the scene is to disorient Loofy, and
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: it's like it clearly just didn't work at all, and
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: in such a way as to be like, oh man,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that was embarrassing to see how much you underestimated that kid.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: That wasn't even close to working, you know.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: So as this is.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: All like being remembered, Lufi is asking him, hey, man,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: are you okay? Like I know that you're fucked up
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: in everything, but are you going to be able to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: make it? And then we have him like talking to
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Lufy at the coliseum and the things that he said
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: there and talking about his hockey powers, et cetera, and
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: going back to do Flamingo and once again asking him,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: have I done enough to earn being on your crew yet?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: And I have forgotten. I don't like I keep forgetting
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: whether or not I've talked about Do Flamingo's saying, what
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I want to do is destroy this world because it's
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the only thing that the dragons value.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: So that's why I'm doing.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: It, And it's the sort of motivation that I feel
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: like is stupid but also believable. There are times where
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: something feels stupid in a way that's like, I don't
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: feel like any person would ever act this way, but
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I then there are times where something is stupid in
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: a well, yeah, that's stupid in the way that people
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: are stupid. That's stupid in a believable way. I personally like.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Even though Do Flamingo's desire to destroy the world would
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: also destroy himself, I'm sure that he, like isn't intending
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: on it being that kind of destruction, you know. I'm
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: sure he thinks that he would be able to hold
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: himself separate from it and rule over.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: The ashes, so to speak. And also, just.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Your whole life revolve around other people's desires, and wanting
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: to take them away from them is sort of pathetic.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I must say.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: So there is an element here where I think do
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Flamingo wants to be this badass who's untouched by the
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: cold heartedness of his family, but doesn't seem to see that. Actually,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: we can see how hurt you are. It's very clear
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: that you feel sad about this and it's bothering you.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: And I just think that he doesn't really clock how
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: like vulnerable this makes him look. And that's often the way, right,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Like you are trying to do something to maintain an image,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: and in doing that thing, you don't realize that you
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: have ruined that image and it's impossible for you to
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: repair it. And like, evidently the image is still intact
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: because other people follow him and believe you know what
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I mean. So anyway, the coming.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Back to.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Bellamy, he's on the ground, bleeding and thinking back on
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: his life, and Lufy's like, hey, I'm sorry, I've got
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: to leave you here for now. I'm real worried about Traffy.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: The real Mingo and snot Guy are up there. They're
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: too strong. He needs my help. I'll give Mingo an
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: extra kick in the ass for you, okay, And then
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: he starts to run away, and Bellamy says, hold on,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: you remember this technique. It's been a while. And he
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: begins to make his legs into springs, which I was
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: kind of surprised that hadn't shown up earlier. But I
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: guess if Mingo's controlling you, he can't necessarily activate your
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: double fruit powers like on your behalf. So he sits up,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: he does the spring legs, and he's looking at Loufy
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and I'm watching him and I'm just like, I can't
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: tell what you're about to do here, Brauh is it like.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: That you are trying? Are you going to attack him now?
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Is that what you're about to do?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: And he says, all right, spring hop and he goes
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: up against the wall up to the ceiling, rolls around
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: a minute, considering how fucking destroyed he looks.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: He's he's somewhat.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Uh what's the word, I want limber spry. I guess, yeah,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: he's really And he's doing the same thing where he
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: performs for Lufy. He got stronger since last time, but
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I got stronger too. You want to see destructive power,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I've taken this to the max. And as he's bouncing
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: around this hallway around Lufy, who was just watching him,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: like what the fuck.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Are you even doing? My guy?
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: We jump away for a moment, but I'm gonna stick
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: with this because obviously, God, I'm trying to remember where
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: this goes, because like, we don't wrap this up, do we?
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, we don't. You guys, it feels like
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: he's about to attack Loofy here. I can't make myself
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: believe that. I just don't think.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I believe that.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I think that he's showing off and that he is
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: going to try and take it out on do Flamingo.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, there's a part of me that does
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: kind of want him to keep trying to impress to Flamingo.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Not because I think that's the smart thing to do
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: at all, please understand, but.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Because I I sometimes enjoy stories about people who are hopeless.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: You know this, Like it would be a very sort
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: of what do you call it? It would be a
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: very Sopranos thing.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: To do to have the guy who seems like he
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: has been given every reason to abandon someone actually continue
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: to stick by them in a way that they probably
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: have not earned. So I really don't want the thing,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: but there is like a part of me that weirdly
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: thirsts for it.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: And I can't.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Explain it, and I won't explain it, so I hope
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: that you guys understand that.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: This uh we cut from there to Baby five and
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: you guys, this is.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite tropes ever.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: So Baby five is fighting this guy and she finally
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: says that's enough already, and her face is all blushy,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and he's sort of like, what what do you mean?
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: And she lowers her weapon and she says, just tell me.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Is it true the way that you feel about me?
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Are you serious?
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Because if you are, why are you beating around the
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: bush so much? Be honest with me and her she's
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: crying as she says this, and this guy says, I
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about, and she says, don't
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: play dumb, and we have the flashback of him saying
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: this next blow will strike you straight through your heart,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: and she says to him, you said you were aiming
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: for my heart and then he says, I'll hold this
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: hand till you die, because her hand had been transformed
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: into a deadly weapon, and she says, you wanted to
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: hold hands for our whole life, and then he says,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: don't want to lose you on this one as he's
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: chasing after her, and she says and that you never
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: want to lose me, right, And this guy genuinely seems
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: to not know what to say, like how how do
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: you react? How do you play it? And she puts
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: away her weapon entirely and says, if your feelings for
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: me really are that strong, then I don't care if
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: we're enemies or not. And she balls her hand up
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: and says, I understand you need me, don't you. This
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: is so fucking funny, guys. I have always been a
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: huge fan of whenever a person is like coming at
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: things from a certain point of view and then it
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: turns out they were really misunderstanding because they had that
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: point of view. So when you get like the context
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: of what was actually happening, you find out they really
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: had the wrong idea, but you can understand why they
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: had the wrong idea. This is one of my favorite
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: versions of that, which is a person assigning romantic thing
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: to something where there isn't one, and one of my
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: favorite clips. I actually shared this in the discord not
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: that long ago, because there was somebody sharing how they
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: have a friend who has worryingly begun to turn to
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: AI for confirmation that this guy she works with has
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: a crush on her, and so she's like feeding their
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: conversation into the AI and asking, doesn't it sound like
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: he's in love with me? And the AI is saying
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: it does sound like that. And then she's going to
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: this person and saying, see, the AI said that he
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: loves me, and they aren't showing my friend the transcript
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: or anything, so of course this person is just like,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sure whatever they are saying is very very skewed
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: when they enter it into the AI to begin with.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Never mind the fact that the AI is AI, which
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: means that it does not know about emotion or how
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: to like, that's not even part of this. And I
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: shared in response a clip from Community where Annie says
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: something to Jeff about like when are we going to
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: deal with you and me? And he's like, what do
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: you mean you and me? And she says, you know,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: the Annie of it all the will they won't they
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: the stolen glances, And then there's this montage of her
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: and Jeff interacting, but it's all got that song playing
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: over it. Their interactions are slowed down so we're all
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: in slow mo and the camera zooming in in certain places,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: and then the song that's playing is that something always
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: brings me back to you, you know that fucking never
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: tasts too long, and it is all with this like
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: fuzzy sort of glow to make it really seem like
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: they're having these romantic moments. And then it comes back
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: and Jeff is looking at her and he says, Annie,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I think you're reading into some things, and she's like
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I am not, and he's.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Like, no, you are that.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Oh that could work even if you did it with
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: like Ahbed and Pierce, and so they do. They have
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: that same music playing over a scene between Ahbed and Pierce,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and it's like it does. Obviously, there isn't the same
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: level of chemistry, as Avid points out, between him and
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Peers as there is between Annie and Jeff, but it's
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: still definitely like making the point. And I just love
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Baby Five's whole like character thing being her obsession with
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: like men in general and always feeling like they are
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: telling her that they need her or want her or
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: can't live without her. This is a very real phenomenon that, like,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I know, this is obviously an extreme version of it,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: but I have met a lot of people like this,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: not just women, but just people who their sense of
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: identity is so tied up in like having a love
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: interest and whatever gender they're into thinks of them.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: And it really like this, this moment with the.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I honestly I wouldn't be mad if we got a
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: lot more of this. I know that it's probably kind
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: of an easy joke. I'm sure that there are people
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: out there that are like with this already, and I
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: get it, But like you could have Baby five having
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: a moment like this in literally every episode.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that I would be mad over it.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I kind of think I'd be fine with it. It's
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: just like she's so earnest about it. I think that's
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: a part of it as well, is that it's not
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: just her being like, oh, I think he has a
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: crush on me, like a little sort of getting full
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: of herself over nothing. We have had plenty of characters
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: that have been like, oh, you're saying this because I'm
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: so handsome, you know, and it's done in a very
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: sort of light hearted, Oh you're an idiot, but I'm
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: ignoring you kind of way. I think it's the earnestness
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: of these moments with her that bring that comedy element
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: so hard and the tears in her eyes and her
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: acting like it's us against the world. Baby, you know,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: I fucking love it. I really love it. And I
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I kind of like she's one of my favorite characters
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: at this point because this is so silly. I just anyway,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: all right, let's go back to Hajrudin aka Macha Man
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Randy Savage, and he and Mackweiss are fighting and Mackweiss
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: keeps just doing his canniball thing landing on him, and
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I was very disappointed that Heshrudin is getting creamed basically,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: like he just keeps getting smoothed into the ground over
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: and over again. And I was like, oh, this guy. Yeah,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that his attacks are intense, but also, bruh,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: you should be able to do a little bit better.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I expected more from you.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: And then that is basically what Hashruden says himself is
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: like you said you oh the straw hats, and then
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: this is the performance you give.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: This is the best you could do.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: This is sad, bruh, Like I owe these people my
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: life and I am really.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Not bringing it right now. I need to represent more.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: What is this? Get it together guy?
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: It's like a pep talk where he's sort of slapping
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: himself in the face, you know. So he finally stands
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: up and Zorro has come on the scene and is
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: offering to like deal with the dude, and Hashrudin is like, hey,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, but please just let me deal with
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: this dude. And he's really bruised up and like having
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: trouble walking. Mack Weiss is coming down on him and
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: he's like, all right, I'm gonna make myself even heavier.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Here I come, and Hajrudin is bracing himself. Mackface says,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I hope there are some bones left over for crushing,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: which I was like, wait, what does that mean? After
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: you kill somebody you like to just like bounce around
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: on their bones. That's a weird thing to enjoy, I guess.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I guess if your only skill is like making yourself heavy,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: crushing stuff would be a hobby, I suppose. So he
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Hajjrudin puts a fist up and he manages to catch
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Mackweiss on one of his gauntlets. I was a little
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: disappointed because Mockwiss.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Doesn't really react.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I thought that he was gonna have a moment of like,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: oh shit, but he just continues to smile, and I
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: was like, why is he so unbothered?
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: And then you.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Get the inside X ray view of what is happening
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Tomacho man Randy Savage. All the bones in his body
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: are indeed shattered. It is really fucking rough, you guys.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: It's like the first his arm, but then the leg
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: that's bracing him. You see all of those as those
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: bones like begin to break apart as well. And then
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Hasrudin yells let him fly to the Kingdom of the Gods,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and he punches upward and throws Mockfise up into the
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: air so hard that he gets sliced up against the
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: bird cage threads. I was delighted and horrified and impressed.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, damn, Hajrudin came through and the means of
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: defeating this guy are his own side's weapon, which is
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: all just a very satisfying thing and also a very
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: grisly and ingenious use of that weapon.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: I loved it. I thought it was great.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: And then you eventually like see the blood spatter and
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: you see him fall back toward the ground and eventually
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: his root in himself just collapses. I think that he is.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Alive, but.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Musoro walks by him and says, enjoy your nap. When
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: you wake up, the cage will be gone.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Macho man. Randy Savage does not reply. That is the
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: end of the episode. But I really like that moment
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: a lot. Mock Vice is so.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Weird, what a bizarre. I don't know what's going on,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Like some of their vocal tics, I can see what
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: we're doing, and then there's things like this where I'm
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: just like, where did you even get this? But yeah,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: so I like this episode, but I will stand by
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: that this d thing is still silly and stupid.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. Prove me wrong.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: And next episode that I record, I will be back
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: to watching three. So join me for that, guys. And
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: then I believe it's next week that I'm going to
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: be joined by Florian for one of the episodes I
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: think on the twenty four. Yeah, so a week from Thursday,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I will be doing a live with Florian. So I'm
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: looking forward to that because anytime that there's alive, it
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: means that something has of significance has occurred. So all right, everybody,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: appreciate you all and until next time to Balloo Motherfuckers.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: That was an unspoiled network podcast.