Latest / Brian Thomas / The "Smither-vent" - Episode 124- Choose Your Friends Wisely
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Of my listening audience and personal friend of mine, Christopher Smithman,
- 0:02Speaker 1: Welcome back, man. It's good to hear from you.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Man. It's good to hear your voice. Ryan who I
- 0:08Speaker 2: tell you the subject matter of city hall weighing in
- 0:13Speaker 2: on what's going on in Minnesota as it relates to ICE.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they're joining the lawsuit against ICE's activities Minnesota
- 0:22Speaker 1: and Minneapolis, Saint Paul, other cities have filed this lawsuit
- 0:26Speaker 1: seeking to curb ICE activities, and so the City of Cincinnati,
- 0:29Speaker 1: I guess, felt it necessary to join in the fund
- 0:31Speaker 1: and join in the lawsuit. So we are a sanctuary
- 0:35Speaker 1: city city of Cincinnati, is isn't it? Christopher?
- 0:39Speaker 2: Yeah? We are. And now all I'll say is that
- 0:42Speaker 2: you know, this is just an underscoring of the mayor
- 0:46Speaker 2: and this council really just not liking law enforcement in general.
- 0:51Speaker 2: I think it's important to emphasize that ICE is focused
- 0:56Speaker 2: on the worst of the worst. They're focused on people
- 0:59Speaker 2: who have raised people, murdered them, robbed them, killed them
- 1:04Speaker 2: in car accidents. They're going after the worst of the worst.
- 1:08Speaker 2: I mean, it's amazing that people are blowing whistles and
- 1:12Speaker 2: literally ICE is taking out a rapist, Like I don't
- 1:16Speaker 2: I don't get where the Democratic Party is going right now,
- 1:20Speaker 2: you know. And I saw that second video where they
- 1:23Speaker 2: showed that American citizen, I think it was a week earlier,
- 1:27Speaker 2: kicking the vehicle of an ICE agent, knocking out his
- 1:31Speaker 2: back lights, spitting on the car, and I think it's like,
- 1:35Speaker 2: this is really, this is really a message of what
- 1:38Speaker 2: this guy was doing was he was agitating those ICE officers,
- 1:43Speaker 2: not just sitting there doing a peaceful protest. But I
- 1:46Speaker 2: don't understand where city council is going. And then I'm
- 1:49Speaker 2: getting text messages saying, in the City of Cincinnati, parents,
- 1:53Speaker 2: we need you to bring your shovels. We need you
- 1:56Speaker 2: to dig us out. We need you to come and
- 1:58Speaker 2: shovel the snow at our goals. I mean, the roads
- 2:01Speaker 2: in Cincinnati still are not clear. They need to do
- 2:05Speaker 2: a lot more work there. Right. The budget is a mess.
- 2:09Speaker 2: We need to do work there. Right. We have issues
- 2:13Speaker 2: related to potholes that are still real. I'm just trying
- 2:16Speaker 2: to figure out why this council for the last two weeks,
- 2:19Speaker 2: the resolution they passed on ICE. Now, what you're sharing
- 2:22Speaker 2: with me about joining into a lawsuit in a different municipality.
- 2:27Speaker 2: This city council is just completely distracted. Brian Thomas, this
- 2:30Speaker 2: is just what I see.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Well, that's their their liberal virtue signaling then to join
- 2:34Speaker 1: in the fund. They're not gonna let everybody, all these
- 2:36Speaker 1: other left wing liberal cities go without Cincinnati being a
- 2:39Speaker 1: part of it. I don't know this. This doesn't I
- 2:42Speaker 1: guess my point is it doesn't shock me. I mean,
- 2:44Speaker 1: this is very consistent with the Pervoll administration of the
- 2:47Speaker 1: current council member makeup. I mean we've been at them
- 2:50Speaker 1: talking about this kind of thing for a long time,
- 2:51Speaker 1: where there are various proclamations and resolutions and now of
- 2:55Speaker 1: course expending resources I'm sure money monetary resources to get
- 3:00Speaker 1: gauge in a lawsuit with the federal government.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Well, I want to try to make it make a
- 3:06Speaker 2: little sense. What we see here is a mayor who's
- 3:11Speaker 2: in his last four years and he is thinking about
- 3:15Speaker 2: where he's going to land, where he's going to pivot,
- 3:18Speaker 2: how he's going to get there, and so this virtue
- 3:23Speaker 2: announcements that are coming from there are in my opinion,
- 3:26Speaker 2: are based on that. You know, don't be surprised to
- 3:29Speaker 2: hear him in two years say I'm running for Congress,
- 3:33Speaker 2: or you know, I'm running for Senate, or I'm trying
- 3:36Speaker 2: to do something. I'm trying to be a part of
- 3:38Speaker 2: some administration. He's trying to position himself for the next
- 3:43Speaker 2: gig at the expense of Cincinnati. So we talked about
- 3:48Speaker 2: this as we went into the last election. You know,
- 3:51Speaker 2: elections have consequences, as you know, Brian, and so I
- 3:55Speaker 2: just say, what you're going to see are nine members
- 3:58Speaker 2: of councils, some who are termed out, some who aren't,
- 4:01Speaker 2: who are now going to start pivoting for their next jobs.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Where are we trying to go, where are we trying
- 4:05Speaker 2: to land? What are we going to run for? And
- 4:07Speaker 2: they're talking to their base, making sure that their base,
- 4:11Speaker 2: which I'm saying the Democratic Party base has really lost.
- 4:15Speaker 2: They are so far left, but they need those people
- 4:20Speaker 2: in a primary. So in a May primary where you
- 4:23Speaker 2: have just Democrats, are just Republicans showing up, this is
- 4:27Speaker 2: where the most extreme rhetoric happens. That's what they're doing
- 4:31Speaker 2: right now. They're preparing for whatever primaries they're going to
- 4:34Speaker 2: do this year or next year.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Well, it's continue pause right now. Bring Christopher Smithing back
- 4:38Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more, are our local law
- 4:41Speaker 1: enforcement working with ICE? Working against Ice? Are we detaining
- 4:46Speaker 1: ICE criminals in the lock up for the ICE agents
- 4:49Speaker 1: to come up and pick them up when they've served
- 4:51Speaker 1: their time? More and other related topics with christ seven
- 4:55Speaker 1: thirty nine. If you've have Kcity Talk Station Brian Thomas
- 4:57Speaker 1: with Christopher Smithlman, former vice mayor of the city. Since
- 5:00Speaker 1: and he still stays on top of all matters relating
- 5:01Speaker 1: to the city, I see that, what was it a
- 5:04Speaker 1: couple of last week or the week before, since our
- 5:06Speaker 1: council pass the resolution urging federal law enforcement officers in
- 5:10Speaker 1: Cincinnati to comply with city policy which requires body cameras
- 5:14Speaker 1: identification of mass This is the kind of thing that
- 5:16Speaker 1: Chucky Schumer's arguing about needs to be incorporated into spending
- 5:19Speaker 1: bill or we're going to get a government shutdown. So
- 5:22Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much control we have over ICE.
- 5:25Speaker 1: I don't even know if ICE has a separate standard
- 5:29Speaker 1: when it comes to compliance with you know, like use
- 5:34Speaker 1: of force policies in the city. But here we are,
- 5:38Speaker 1: you know, telling ICE how to do their job where
- 5:40Speaker 1: we are. But do we even help Ice? Are we
- 5:43Speaker 1: one of them? Are we like Minneapolis or Saint Paul,
- 5:46Speaker 1: where you know you've got someone who's a criminal, they've
- 5:49Speaker 1: served their time in prison, they are subject to a
- 5:51Speaker 1: deportation order, but that deportation order is ignored and that
- 5:54Speaker 1: person's let out into the community. Is that the way
- 5:57Speaker 1: we operate here is that Charmine mcguffey's policies relative do
- 6:00Speaker 1: they lock up?
- 6:02Speaker 2: I think we need to hear from the sheriff. I
- 6:04Speaker 2: think the resolution was clear. You know, if we, as
- 6:08Speaker 2: you've indicated, if we've detained a criminal in the jail,
- 6:12Speaker 2: are we notifying ICE to come get them. I don't
- 6:16Speaker 2: know if the sheriff is cooperating. I think it's something
- 6:19Speaker 2: that we need to ask publicly. If any of her
- 6:22Speaker 2: spokespeople are listening to this radio show, they should call
- 6:27Speaker 2: in and clarify where the sheriff is on this as
- 6:30Speaker 2: it relates to the jail, as it relates to the sheriffs.
- 6:33Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from the FOP president. What is
- 6:37Speaker 2: the direction to our to our chief. I wanted I
- 6:41Speaker 2: wanted to be clear on the record, is the police
- 6:43Speaker 2: Cincinnati Police Department cooperating with ICE as it relates to criminals?
- 6:48Speaker 2: I mean, you and I are talking about criminals. We're not.
- 6:51Speaker 2: We're not talking about you know, people out here who
- 6:55Speaker 2: are getting up every day and going to work. We're
- 6:58Speaker 2: talking about people with guns, who are gay members, who
- 7:01Speaker 2: are robbing, menacing, raping our citizens. We want them out
- 7:06Speaker 2: of here. I just I don't know what the protests
- 7:09Speaker 2: are about. I don't understand it, Brian. But for me,
- 7:13Speaker 2: it's like this underlining current that we've been going through
- 7:16Speaker 2: within the Democratic Party of defunding the police, this notion
- 7:21Speaker 2: that we want to reimagine them. What is also interesting
- 7:24Speaker 2: for me as the texture of this politics is that
- 7:27Speaker 2: no one was protesting when other presidents were doing deportations.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Barack Obama, I read a quote from twenty tenco this
- 7:36Speaker 1: is exactly the same policies that Barack Obama had. He
- 7:39Speaker 1: was deporting and advocated for deporting any and all illegal immigrants,
- 7:45Speaker 1: even if they were the friendly people down the street
- 7:47Speaker 1: have been here for ten years, working away and doing
- 7:49Speaker 1: their job and participating to society. We're large. No, they're
- 7:52Speaker 1: out too, Barack Obama said, literally, Well, because it's going
- 7:56Speaker 1: to encourage others to come into the United States knowing
- 7:58Speaker 1: there aren't going to be rep Ussians. For them entering
- 8:01Speaker 1: our country illegally. You know, that's what Barack Obama delivered
- 8:05Speaker 1: on he delivered his historic deportations. Not a peep from
- 8:09Speaker 1: the left when that was going on. Nothing.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Why is it when you say that out loud it
- 8:15Speaker 2: makes democrats mad, Like I'll tell a Democrat that and
- 8:20Speaker 2: they get agitated, like I'm like, what are you talking?
- 8:23Speaker 2: These are just facts. The fact pattern is President Barack
- 8:27Speaker 2: Obama deported more people than President Trump, and he was
- 8:32Speaker 2: very aggressive about it. And as a matter of fact,
- 8:35Speaker 2: he gave Tom Holman a at award at the White
- 8:40Speaker 2: House where he hung the metal around his neck, the
- 8:43Speaker 2: guy who just was sent sent to Minneapolis by Trump.
- 8:48Speaker 2: President Barack Obama honored as doing a great job in
- 8:51Speaker 2: the relation to deportation. Am I exaggerating? If you're a
- 8:55Speaker 2: Democrat and you're listening to me, call in and say
- 8:58Speaker 2: what I'm saying, is it true? But when you try
- 9:01Speaker 2: to tell Democrats that this is what happened, meaning Tom
- 9:04Speaker 2: Holman right now was working with Barack Obama, and Barack
- 9:09Speaker 2: Obama then said, you did a great job. I'm gonna
- 9:12Speaker 2: give you the highest award I can give you from
- 9:15Speaker 2: the White House. Are one of the highest awards. You
- 9:17Speaker 2: come to the White House, bring your family, and I'm
- 9:20Speaker 2: gonna put this big necklace around your neck. This is
- 9:25Speaker 2: what happened. Why now are they so angry when they
- 9:29Speaker 2: didn't protest any of that? And the other thing I
- 9:31Speaker 2: think that gets to go Brian Thomas of I think conservatives,
- 9:35Speaker 2: which I agree with here, is they're victims that have
- 9:39Speaker 2: been murdered, young girls who've been murdered and raped, and
- 9:43Speaker 2: the Democrats have had no protests. There's no no. I'm
- 9:47Speaker 2: really mad on CNN, I'm really mad on MSNBC about
- 9:52Speaker 2: what happened. These are African American girls, These are men
- 9:57Speaker 2: who are African American, these are rights emails, grown women.
- 10:02Speaker 2: These are a woman jogging in the park, or whether
- 10:05Speaker 2: this is a little girl who's murdered and take it
- 10:08Speaker 2: out of her house. Why don't the Democrats ever speak
- 10:11Speaker 2: out about those victims? Brian Thomas, this is what frustrates
- 10:16Speaker 2: all of us as we're watching these protests, and now
- 10:20Speaker 2: I understand why they're saying, maybe this representative made up
- 10:24Speaker 2: this incident that happened to her. I hope she didn't,
- 10:27Speaker 2: you know, I hope not. Yeah, I'm hoping that that
- 10:31Speaker 2: I'm hoping by the time I get to Monday that
- 10:33Speaker 2: that is not what has occurred here. Meaning I've sent
- 10:36Speaker 2: my prayers out to the to the representative, because I
- 10:38Speaker 2: don't want that to happen to anybody. But when you
- 10:41Speaker 2: look at what when you look at what people are
- 10:43Speaker 2: saying out there, they're not even believing that what happened
- 10:46Speaker 2: there was even true.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, I just have to interject a
- 10:51Speaker 1: point on literally any news topic anymore that comes across
- 10:55Speaker 1: the wire, Someone's always going to make up something or
- 10:58Speaker 1: point to suspicions swirling around the activity like this one.
- 11:02Speaker 1: The guy squirts a cider vinegar on her. People freak out,
- 11:05Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's an attack on ilian Omar. Then
- 11:08Speaker 1: people start saying, no, no, that was a plant designed
- 11:10Speaker 1: to make her look really good. Well, I don't know
- 11:12Speaker 1: the answer to that question. I'm with I'm in your camp.
- 11:14Speaker 1: I hope she had nothing to do with it, and
- 11:16Speaker 1: I hope people stop doing things like that. But it's
- 11:20Speaker 1: the day of the internet, you know, Christopher, You're gonna
- 11:22Speaker 1: get people making stuff up even if they don't have
- 11:24Speaker 1: any facts to hang their hat on.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Now, before we go, I wanted to pivot back because
- 11:29Speaker 2: I saw your energy level jump, and my energy level
- 11:33Speaker 2: jumps too, because I'm wondering where the Democrats were when
- 11:39Speaker 2: President Barack Obama was aggressively doing deportations. And when we
- 11:44Speaker 2: say aggressively, we're talking five six million people were thrown
- 11:49Speaker 2: out of this country during that and then and then
- 11:53Speaker 2: the same thing with President Clinton. I mean in his addresses,
- 11:57Speaker 2: you know, I'm talking about his congressional address, he would say,
- 12:02Speaker 2: we've got to deal with deportations. Hillary Clinton would say
- 12:06Speaker 2: the same things. All of them are Senator Schumer, same thing.
- 12:11Speaker 2: It's not just Barack Obama, all of these Democrats in
- 12:13Speaker 2: this period of time, we're saying, we've got to make
- 12:17Speaker 2: sure that those who come to our country illegally and
- 12:20Speaker 2: those specifically who mean us harm are due harm. We
- 12:24Speaker 2: want to deport them. To any Democrat listening to me,
- 12:28Speaker 2: if I am telling a lie, if I am exaggerating,
- 12:33Speaker 2: when I hang up call and set the record straight
- 12:36Speaker 2: with Brian, because I don't understand, I want to hear
- 12:39Speaker 2: from the Democrat, how in their minds are they putting
- 12:43Speaker 2: out like, wow, we're going to protest now. When Ice
- 12:46Speaker 2: was doing the exact same thing for Clinton, for Bush,
- 12:50Speaker 2: for Obama for all of them, well.
- 12:53Speaker 1: I think it's the sign of Trump arrangement syndrome. Not
- 12:56Speaker 1: to rely on that, but they are completely crazy over
- 12:59Speaker 1: this ysue, and it's got to be a distraction away
- 13:01Speaker 1: from other things. I think the reason Barack Obama embraced
- 13:04Speaker 1: widespread deportation is because it is an issue that the
- 13:09Speaker 1: American people embraced. You want to get votes, you got
- 13:12Speaker 1: to be on that side of the ledger. What do
- 13:13Speaker 1: we learn from Biden's administration and open border and not
- 13:16Speaker 1: removing people. I guess makes people angry enough that they're
- 13:19Speaker 1: going to vote for evil orange men and put him
- 13:21Speaker 1: back in for a second term. Why because he campaigned
- 13:24Speaker 1: on that very issue and look what happened. We recently
- 13:27Speaker 1: established security on our border, and we go back to
- 13:30Speaker 1: as of right now, Barack Obama's policies, if you want
- 13:34Speaker 1: to be that broad, these not going just after criminals.
- 13:36Speaker 1: He's going after anybody. Fine, that's what Barack Obama did.
- 13:39Speaker 1: So let's say that. So Trump is now where Obama
- 13:41Speaker 1: was back in twenty ten, and now it's a bad
- 13:44Speaker 1: thing doing what Obama did. So I don't know, though,
- 13:50Speaker 1: because Trump won largely on immigration that the American people's
- 13:55Speaker 1: mindset or position on deportation has changed. These viral videos
- 14:01Speaker 1: and these mass protests want to make everyone think that
- 14:03Speaker 1: it's a different landscape. And it does have some you know,
- 14:06Speaker 1: representatives in Congress a little worried that maybe we're going
- 14:09Speaker 1: to lose the election of November because we are being
- 14:11Speaker 1: strong on immigration. Many people are thinking, no, that's not
- 14:14Speaker 1: the case. People still want strong immigration enforcement. I don't
- 14:19Speaker 1: know where we are, Christopher, but they certainly look I
- 14:21Speaker 1: don't know, psychotic on some level, given the back and
- 14:24Speaker 1: forth nature of their position.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Well, we just have to ask ourselves this question. When
- 14:29Speaker 2: President Barack Obama was the president, right, This is not
- 14:33Speaker 2: me pounding on his presidency. This is just saying fact
- 14:37Speaker 2: there were people who lost their lives. Ice engaged them,
- 14:42Speaker 2: and there were people who died, now all of them.
- 14:44Speaker 2: And there was even under President Barack Obama he targeted
- 14:48Speaker 2: with a drone an American on foreign soil and did
- 14:52Speaker 2: an assassination while he was the president. This is not
- 14:56Speaker 2: me poo pooing on President Barack Obama. I'm just saying
- 14:59Speaker 2: these facts. I do not understand when I talk to Democrats, right,
- 15:04Speaker 2: who are saying I'm a part of the resistance. And
- 15:07Speaker 2: I say these things to them, Why don't they just say, yes,
- 15:10Speaker 2: that's true. Yes, that's a fact that did happen. What
- 15:14Speaker 2: is wrong with them submitting to the fact pattern. I
- 15:16Speaker 2: don't get it. It's like almost truth is relative. There
- 15:19Speaker 2: really isn't a truth, and my truth is what it is,
- 15:23Speaker 2: it's what I say it is. No, that's not what happened.
- 15:26Speaker 2: Tom Holman, the guy right now who is working directly
- 15:30Speaker 2: with President Trump, was a key person working with President
- 15:36Speaker 2: Barack Obama when he gave him the award. These are
- 15:39Speaker 2: just these are just facts, Brian Thomas. And I'm saying
- 15:42Speaker 2: I when you tell Democrats these things, and I'm gonna
- 15:44Speaker 2: keep coming back because people are turning on their radios
- 15:47Speaker 2: at different times. When you go back and you try
- 15:49Speaker 2: to talk to Democrats about this, they never call in.
- 15:52Speaker 2: They never say what you're saying, it's truth. And by
- 15:54Speaker 2: the way, on my timeline on X, I try to
- 15:57Speaker 2: post where Senator Schumer said what his positions were previously
- 16:03Speaker 2: about Ice or a President Barack Obama or a President
- 16:08Speaker 2: Clinton or President Bush. All of them, Democrats and Republicans
- 16:13Speaker 2: held the same position around getting criminals who are in
- 16:17Speaker 2: our country illegally out, I would say one day, because
- 16:20Speaker 2: I want to clarify I am not for deporting dreamers.
- 16:23Speaker 2: I am not for just randomly grabbing people and throwing
- 16:27Speaker 2: them out of the country, people who are here working.
- 16:29Speaker 2: It's not where I am right. So I'm talking about
- 16:33Speaker 2: focusing on absolute criminals. But this is what I would
- 16:36Speaker 2: never say. I would never say two different things real quick.
- 16:39Speaker 2: I would say I would never say somebody who came
- 16:42Speaker 2: into our country illegally didn't do something illegal. The other
- 16:46Speaker 2: thing I also wouldn't say is if there's a raid
- 16:49Speaker 2: on a party which has been happening, and you're at
- 16:52Speaker 2: that party. You're not on the list, but you're at
- 16:55Speaker 2: the party, right and in that party, you've got gang members.
- 16:58Speaker 2: All of you are going to be meaning who you
- 17:01Speaker 2: hang around with and what you're doing as a visitor
- 17:04Speaker 2: in our country matters. Conducts yourself like you're a visitor
- 17:09Speaker 2: and a contributing person to our society, and you most
- 17:12Speaker 2: likely will have no problems with ice, the police or
- 17:16Speaker 2: anybody they're going after criminals. And I don't understand why
- 17:19Speaker 2: Democrats are blowing a whistle.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Choose your friends wisely. Christopher Smith Wani, well, have you
- 17:23Speaker 1: back on on Monday