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- Lucas: So you see these headlines — 'Influencer joins board,' 'Creator gets equity' — and part of me thinks it's just the newest shiny object in the sponsorship world. But then you look at the structure of one specific deal and suddenly it starts to look less like PR and more like a genuinely new operating model. Luna: You're talking about the fractional CMO play. I've been watching this since last fall when that skincare startup — what was it, Dew Drops? — gave creator Mia Chen a board observer seat. Lucas: Exactly. Dew Drops. And the numbers are worth sitting with. Mia Chen got a 0.5 percent equity stake, a board observer seat, and — this is the part that caught my attention — veto power over brand messaging. Not just input. Veto. For a 12-month content partnership. Luna: And she's not even a traditional CMO. She has about 400,000 followers across Instagram and TikTok, mostly skincare reviews and ingredient breakdowns. Smart audience, but not mega-celebrity scale. Lucas: Right. That's the point. The brand isn't buying reach. They're buying strategic authority. They want someone who understands the consumer so intimately that she essentially becomes a part-time chief marketing officer embedded in the company. And they're willing to give up equity and control to get it. Luna: Which raises the obvious question: why wouldn't they just hire a real CMO? Or a consulting firm? Lucas: Great question. And the answer, from what I've gathered talking to founders, is speed and authenticity. A traditional CMO might take three to six months to really understand the brand voice and the community. Mia Chen already lives in that world. She knows what her audience trusts, what triggers skepticism, what language feels like ad-speak versus genuine recommendation. The brand pays a premium for that existing trust. Luna: But trust cuts both ways. If Mia Chen has veto power over messaging, does she have a fiduciary duty to the company? Or is she still primarily acting in her own interest and her audience's interest? Those two things can conflict. Lucas: That's the legal frontier nobody has fully mapped yet. In most states, if you're a board observer — even without voting rights — you can be exposed to insider information. And if you're making decisions that affect the company's messaging, you could theoretically be held to a standard of care. I've seen contracts that try to carve out 'creative consultant' exceptions, but it's murky. Luna: So the creator is essentially taking on risk that traditional influencers never had to think about. Liability, confidentiality, potential conflicts of interest. And all for 0.5 percent equity that might never vest if the brand doesn't exit or grow. Lucas: But the upside can be enormous. Let's say Dew Drops gets acquired in five years for $50 million. That half a percent is $250,000. On top of whatever cash fees she earned during the partnership. And she gets to shape a brand from the ground up — which builds her own reputation as a strategic partner, not just a content creator. Luna: I can see why creators with strong niches are interested. But from the brand side, is this scalable? Can you have five fractional CMOs for five different product lines? Lucas: That's the tension. A few brands are experimenting with having multiple creator-partners for different categories. But most are keeping it to one or two at most. Because the governance gets messy. Who has veto over what? What happens when two creators disagree on a campaign direction? You'd need a really clear decision rights framework. Luna: And investors might push back. Venture capitalists love repeatable, scalable models. A fractional CMO who is a single individual — that's a key-person risk. If Mia Chen gets sick or loses interest, the brand's entire messaging strategy could be disrupted. Lucas: Exactly. So far, the brands that are doing this tend to be early-stage direct to consumer companies with very tight communities. Think skincare, supplements, pet food — categories where trust is paramount and the founder is already somewhat of a public face. The fractional CMO becomes a co-pilot, not the pilot. Luna: I've also noticed that these deals often include a 'cooling-off' clause. If the creator wants to leave, there's a notice period where they can't directly compete or work with a rival brand. But enforcement is tricky — how do you prove a creator's content strategy is 'competing'? Lucas: Yeah, non-compete for influencers is almost unenforceable in practice. So brands are relying more on alignment of incentives. If the creator owns equity, they want the brand to succeed. That's the real lock-in. Not legal threats, but genuine upside sharing. Luna: Let's talk about another example. I came across a fitness brand called STRIDE that gave a creator not just equity but a seat on the product development committee. She had input on formulation, packaging, even pricing. That's deeper than marketing — that's operational. Lucas: And that's where the term 'fractional CMO' almost undersells it. Some of these creators are acting more like fractional chief brand officers. They're touching product, supply chain conversations, customer service scripts. The brand is essentially outsourcing a chunk of its strategic brain to someone who lives in the customer's shoes. Luna: But there's a risk of the creator becoming a bottleneck. If every major messaging decision requires Mia Chen's sign-off, the brand loses agility. And creators aren't used to corporate decision-making pace. They might slow things down. Lucas: That's why the best deals I've seen define very specific domains of authority. The creator has veto only over 'core brand identity' — things like the mission statement, the visual identity, the tone of voice in hero campaigns. Day-to-day social media posts, performance marketing copy — that stays with the in-house team. It's a carve-out, not a takeover. Luna: So the trend is really about mutual specialization. The creator brings community insight and authenticity; the brand brings scale, distribution, and operational capability. And the contract is the bridge between those two worlds. Lucas: And if these conversations have sparked something you've actually used in your own work — a new way to think about partnerships, a contract clause you modified — then it's exactly the kind of thing that keeps us doing this show. A couple of dollars a month is genuinely what keeps these episodes coming — buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, if you've gotten something out of them. No pressure, just if it's added value. Luna: Yeah, it's listener support that lets us stay ad-free and dig into the details. We appreciate everyone who chips in. Lucas: Alright, back to the models. One thing I want to flag is that not all fractional CMO deals are created equal. Some are essentially glorified ambassadorships with a board title thrown in. The real test is whether the creator has genuine decision rights — not just a say, but a stop. Luna: And whether the brand actually listens when the creator says no. I've heard stories where the brand gave veto power but then pressured the creator to approve messaging anyway, creating friction. Lucas: That's a culture problem, not a contract problem. If the founder isn't ready to share power, the structure won't fix it. But when it works, the results can be striking. Dew Drops reported a 40 percent higher customer retention rate among customers who discovered the brand through Mia Chen's content versus other channels. That's not just attribution — that's relationship quality. Luna: So the fractional CMO isn't a marketing channel. It's a governance innovation. You're bringing the customer's voice into the boardroom in a formal, empowered way. Lucas: Exactly. And I think we'll see more of this as creator businesses mature. The top-tier influencers are already running their own media companies. They have legal teams, business managers, multi-year strategic plans. Taking a fractional CMO role is a natural evolution — it's consulting, but with skin in the game. Luna: What about the next step? Could we see creators becoming fractional CEOs? Or fractional chief product officers? Lucas: I think fractional CPO is actually closer than we think. Some creators already co-create products with brands — like a limited-edition lipstick shade. That's product development. The leap to having a permanent seat at the product table is small. But CEO? That's different. Running a company is a completely different muscle. Most creators don't want that. They want influence, not operational burden. Luna: Fair point. So the fractional CMO is probably the sweet spot. High impact, relatively low time commitment, and it leverages exactly what creators are best at: understanding their audience and translating that into brand strategy. Lucas: And for brands, it's a way to de-risk their marketing spend. Instead of paying a flat fee for a campaign that might not land, you're aligning incentives. The creator wins when the brand wins. That's a fundamentally different relationship. Luna: It also changes how we measure success. Standard influencer metrics are likes, comments, reach. But in a fractional CMO deal, the KPIs might be customer lifetime value, net promoter score, or repeat purchase rate. Much harder to track, but much more meaningful. Lucas: Right. And that requires a different kind of reporting infrastructure. Brands need to give creators access to data they never used to share — sales numbers, churn rates, customer survey results. That's a trust leap on both sides. Luna: I've seen some brands create a 'creator dashboard' that gives real-time access to these metrics, but only for the duration of the partnership. That seems like a smart middle ground. Lucas: It is. And it also helps the creator make better content. If they see that a certain message drove higher retention, they can double down on that angle. The feedback loop gets tighter. Luna: So where does this leave the traditional influencer agency? If creators are becoming fractional executives, do agencies need to evolve too? Lucas: They absolutely do. Some agencies are already building 'talent management' divisions that help creators negotiate these complex contracts, provide legal support, and even help them prepare for board meetings. It's a much higher-touch service than booking a sponsored post. Luna: It almost sounds like a mini investment bank for creators. Advising on equity terms, governance rights, exit strategies. Lucas: Exactly. And the agencies that figure this out will have a huge advantage. Because the creators who are ready for fractional CMO roles are the top 1 percent — they're sophisticated, they have options, and they expect white-glove service. Luna: I'm curious about the downside risk for the creator. If the brand fails or gets bad press, the creator's reputation is tied to it. That's a concentration risk. Lucas: Huge risk. That's why savvy creators are diversifying — they'll do a fractional CMO deal with one brand, but also maintain independent content streams and other partnerships. They don't put all their credibility in one basket. Luna: And they often insist on a 'moral clause' that lets them exit if the brand does something unethical. But again, enforceability is fuzzy. Lucas: Right. At the end of the day, these deals run on trust. The contract sets the framework, but the relationship is what makes it work. And that's what makes this trend so fascinating — it's business, but it's also deeply personal. Luna: So what should a brand considering this model do first? Before approaching a creator? Lucas: First, get very clear on what decision rights you're willing to share. If you're not ready to give a creator veto power over something, don't offer it. Second, make sure your data infrastructure is ready to share key metrics. Third, find a creator who genuinely believes in your mission — not just someone with a big following. Luna: And for creators considering this path? Lucas: Hire a lawyer who understands both corporate governance and influencer contracts. They're different worlds. And think hard about whether you want the responsibility. Being a fractional CMO means you can't just post and leave. You own outcomes. That's a heavier lift than most people realize. Luna: It's a new chapter in the creator economy. We'll be watching how it evolves. Lucas: Absolutely. And if you have a story about a fractional CMO deal — whether you're a brand or a creator — we'd love to hear it. Drop us a note. For now, thanks for listening.