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Happy Hour #203: SMNTY Wants to Dance With Somebody · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this Sinny and Samantha. Welcome you stuff I've never
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  Speaker 1: told you production.
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  Speaker 2: I heartradio, and welcome to a happy hour where I
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  Speaker 2: talk about happy things, happy hoppy things. I think this
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  Speaker 2: could have been a Monday many because I do talk
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about research, and you know, we don't.
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  Speaker 3: Do that typically, especially me for happy hours.
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  Speaker 2: But I thought I would bring this over here because
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  Speaker 2: we need some happy topics along with that in our
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  Speaker 2: happy hour tradition. If we are talking about a brand
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  Speaker 2: or something very specific, it is not necessarily a sponsor.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe one day, I don't know. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: that would look like. But hey, beautiful. Also, if you're
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  Speaker 2: doing happy hourish things, do so responsibly. We love you
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  Speaker 2: and we need you to take care of yourself, especially
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 3: Annie. Are you doing happy hourish things?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: What is it?
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  Speaker 4: I'm still working on my mom's all the wine She's
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  Speaker 4: got me from our hometown of Delanaga.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, which has been featured in the Netflix show Did
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  Speaker 2: you see this? No? What?
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  Speaker 3: Literally they's tossed it's uh Punisher, the dude who played Punisher.
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  Speaker 2: He is in it. Uh and he comes in. Oh
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  Speaker 2: and Tessa Thompson, Hello, but he starts. The scene starts
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  Speaker 2: off with being Lumpkin County. Yeah, it's like they got
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  Speaker 2: it right, and being in a Dealanaga National Force, which
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true. I don't think there's
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  Speaker 2: a national force in Delannaga.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: But but but they say Delanaga and it isn't Lumpkin
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  Speaker 2: County and I was like, oh, okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Shout some stuff there.
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  Speaker 3: And they have a lot of woods. Delonaga has a
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  Speaker 3: lot of woods.
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  Speaker 1: That is true.
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  Speaker 4: That's one of the reasons I liked it.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, keep going.
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  Speaker 2: So you got your wine from your local wineries?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, there are a lot of local wineries in Delanaga,
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  Speaker 4: which is very funny because I found out through friends
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  Speaker 4: who never who were from like Tennessee. Yeah, you've never
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  Speaker 4: been to the winer reason Delanaga, And it's like wineries
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  Speaker 4: in Blowaga.
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  Speaker 1: This was a long time I was in college.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, every Christmas, every like holiday, my mom gets
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  Speaker 4: me these wines. And uh, the one I'm trying today
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  Speaker 4: is Synthiana slash Morton, which is one of my favorites.
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  Speaker 4: I know it's kind of a divisive one. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of people don't like it, but I really like it.
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  Speaker 4: It's very like earthy, mushroomy kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I don't know if I know about those bars.
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  Speaker 2: I'm my knowledge stays in Lake Europe or California.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, this is Washington.
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  Speaker 1: North Georgia and Monsieur. There's another Michigan. I think this
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  Speaker 1: is m State.
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  Speaker 3: It also has it, yeah, very specific grapes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that.
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  Speaker 3: I am. It is cold here, it is like freezing cold.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm keeping up with coffee because I do uppers
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  Speaker 2: around there in that level. But all with all of that,
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  Speaker 2: I thought I would talk about dancing. Like a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things have been coming up on my FYP about
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  Speaker 2: the fact that there have been research, and there's been
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  Speaker 2: a lot of research, but they're talking about it more again,
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  Speaker 2: you know how it kind of fluctuates about how dance
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  Speaker 2: can actually combat dementia, and so I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: dance does a lot for me, specifically when I have
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  Speaker 2: a good dance class, when I have a great like
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  Speaker 2: hip hop or zumba class, it just fills energetic.
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  Speaker 3: I come home with extra pep.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I've been revived and I just want
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  Speaker 2: to keep going.
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  Speaker 3: I just love dance.
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  Speaker 2: It gets to the point that when I have music on,
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  Speaker 2: good music on a dancing and sweat immediately rolls and
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  Speaker 2: then I'm like twenty minutes late because I have to
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  Speaker 2: stop sweating and then get ready again. But I love
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  Speaker 2: it so much, so I thought I would talk about
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  Speaker 2: some of the studies that have been done recently. And
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  Speaker 2: I will say they have started talking more about it
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  Speaker 2: because a twenty twenty five study came out recently about
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  Speaker 2: how it combats perimenopause, menopause and postmenopausal women and how
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  Speaker 2: it really not combats but helps them. So there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of good information happening. I thought I would take
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  Speaker 2: some time to talk about those benefits. So from a
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  Speaker 2: Psychology Today article they actually this was written in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four, they talk about why we dance and how
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  Speaker 2: it was dance has always been a thing.
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  Speaker 3: They say.
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  Speaker 2: They that if it's if evolution is your thing, understand
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  Speaker 2: that primates we're dancing. Even before I see birds dance,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what they're doing. In my head anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like dogs dance sometimes, or just my dog
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  Speaker 2: attacks me while I dance. I account that as dancing. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna go with that. But this is what the
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  Speaker 2: Psychology Today article says. What is it about dance that
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  Speaker 2: makes us want to move in response to the beat
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  Speaker 2: and what happens in our brains when we do so.
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  Speaker 2: Music stimulates the brain's reward centers, while dance activates its
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  Speaker 2: sensory and motor circuits. Concurrently, the olympic system, which is
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  Speaker 2: involved in emotion processing, triggers the release of feel good
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  Speaker 2: hormones such as endorphins, oxytocin, and dopamine, while the cerebellum
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  Speaker 2: integrates input from the brain and spinal cord and helps
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  Speaker 2: in the planning of fine and complex motor actions. Mirror
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  Speaker 2: neurons also play a role in our enjoyment of dance.
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  Speaker 2: As their name implies, mirror neurons are brain cells that
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  Speaker 2: are activated when we see other people doing something. We
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  Speaker 2: automatically yawn if the persons sitting opposite to us yawns,
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  Speaker 2: Watching people dance makes us want to join them and dance.
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  Speaker 2: When we do so, we are no longer alone but
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  Speaker 2: feel part of the group. I think that's such a
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  Speaker 2: great conversation in so many aspects, because yes, when I dance,
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  Speaker 2: it feels good. It feels like I've caught onto something
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  Speaker 2: learning a new line dance, which has been a big
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  Speaker 2: thing right now, and I will say it's a challenge.
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  Speaker 3: Some of these dances. It is, and I have so
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  Speaker 3: much fun with it because.
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  Speaker 2: When you grasp it, being in sync with someone and
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  Speaker 2: realizing you're doing the standing dance moves, there.
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  Speaker 3: Is joy to that.
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  Speaker 2: Choreography is a gift that I am trying to learn.
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  Speaker 3: I will say that, but it's so fun.
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  Speaker 2: And in that same article they talk about how it
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  Speaker 2: can help trauma and dementia. They write, one of the
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  Speaker 2: remarkable things about dancing is the effect that has on
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  Speaker 2: people with trauma and dementia. Kayla Koonik is a board
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  Speaker 2: certified music therapist in Pensalcola, Florida. She spoke to the
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  Speaker 2: Person recently about use of dancing movement with survivors of
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  Speaker 2: trauma and people suffering from dementia. Referring to people living
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  Speaker 2: in long term care settings, she remarked, many of these
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  Speaker 2: people receive no visitors and spend their days with drawn
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  Speaker 2: and silent, But when I come and play music from
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  Speaker 2: the fifties or sixties, music that was popular when they
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  Speaker 2: were young, they light up, start to tap their feet
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  Speaker 2: or clap their hands. Some will stand up and begin dancing.
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  Speaker 2: Others will even remember the lyrics for the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the day. The participants as well as the staff are
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  Speaker 2: happier and more present.
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  Speaker 3: There is we know.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about our own connections with different types of
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  Speaker 2: music and what that can bring out, what that some
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  Speaker 2: of those memories, Some music helped people who have depression
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  Speaker 2: and suicidal ideation. Stuff like that really can move you,
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  Speaker 2: and you feel like you're connected to these lyrics and
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  Speaker 2: these songs, and just like the emotions I have cried
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  Speaker 2: at songs for like just feeling the depth of it.
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  Speaker 2: I've also fallen in love with songs and came back
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  Speaker 2: later thinking, man, that was really corny because I will
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  Speaker 2: act these things out. Did you ever do like when
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  Speaker 2: you would see a music video, like you would participate somehow,
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  Speaker 2: like you are part of that music video?
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  Speaker 3: Is that just me?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I did? I think I did it?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, oh gosh, younger listeners, you won't remember this,
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  Speaker 4: but there used to be like a music video. It
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  Speaker 4: was just music video channel where I was. It was
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  Speaker 4: called the Box. It was channeled thirty four, and we
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  Speaker 4: my friends and I would try to learn the moves
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  Speaker 4: and you had to like get ready for your song.
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  Speaker 4: You never knew what it was gonna come on. But we
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  Speaker 4: also would do like my mom once walked in on
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  Speaker 4: me and my good friend Katie, who's been on the show, uh,
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  Speaker 4: trying to sing and dance to Annie the musical. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because we were going to we were going to audition.
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  Speaker 4: We never did, but so did. I think I did
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  Speaker 4: think similar to that. I'm not sure if I did
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  Speaker 4: exactly what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, see, I would like envision myself in these
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  Speaker 2: music videos as if I was a part of it.
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  Speaker 2: I would learn learn these dances like Paula Abdul. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was in there. I was doing it. Performed that
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  Speaker 2: at a high school in a middle school musical. Straight
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  Speaker 2: up was my song. I even had backup dancers. I've
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  Speaker 2: talked about this before. I loved every bit of that.
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  Speaker 2: There are some things to being able to do choreography.
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  Speaker 2: We would make up numbers footloose number. I think I've
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  Speaker 2: told you I remember a few.
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  Speaker 3: Bits of that.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Mortal Kombat the soundtrack we use that for chair.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry about me, I got things under control. We
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  Speaker 2: just mentioned earlier that the recent study where it says
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  Speaker 2: it can help with perimenopause, menopause in postmenopause. It says
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  Speaker 2: the study is called the Effectiveness of Dance Interventions on
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  Speaker 2: Health related Outcome in perimenopausal, menopausal and postmenopausal Women. So
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  Speaker 2: they write, in recent years, dance intervention has increasingly been
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  Speaker 2: applied to paimenopausal, menopausal and postmenopausal women, with studies suggesting
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  Speaker 2: its potential benefit for alleviating menopause related symptoms. For instance,
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  Speaker 2: when study evaluated the effects of zooma dance intervention in
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  Speaker 2: postmenopausal women, finding significant improvements in quality of life and
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  Speaker 2: reduction in men apastal symptoms. Of course, they're talking about
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  Speaker 2: how this study needs to go a little further because,
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  Speaker 2: as we know, when it comes to women's health, not
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  Speaker 2: a lot of research cording to that, and when we
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  Speaker 2: talk about perimenopausal oh my.
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  Speaker 3: God, even less.
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  Speaker 2: So hopefully it's not a buzzword and trend and people
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  Speaker 2: are actually going to study it. But they did go
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  Speaker 2: into a bit more saying they observed similar stuff with
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  Speaker 2: line dancing, saying significantly alleviated depression, anxiety, paranoia, and sleep
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  Speaker 2: disturbances in menopausal women, enhancing psychological well being and overall
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  Speaker 2: quality of life. So Today's Show did a segment in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one one in that same conversation, So of
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  Speaker 2: course it sounds like they have gone on advancing in
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  Speaker 2: their studies, and in that Today Show article they talk
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  Speaker 2: about they do see benefits. Of course, they go back
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  Speaker 2: and forth about there still needs to be more research
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  Speaker 2: because we don't have a loss, but we do see improvement.
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  Speaker 2: Exercise in general, we know can give a lot of help,
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  Speaker 2: especially when it comes to alleviating depression and mental health things,
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  Speaker 2: as well as giving you a good cardio.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all, I sweat a lot.
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  Speaker 2: According to my watch, it tells me I burnt about
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  Speaker 2: five hundred and twenty calories. I know that's not accurate,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Go with it.
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  Speaker 3: I sweat a lot, though, so I'm gonna count that
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  Speaker 3: as a win.
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  Speaker 2: So their conclusion was the study included nine trials and
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  Speaker 2: found that dance interventions had significant positive effects on health
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  Speaker 2: related outcomes in perimenopausal, menopausal and postmenopausal women except for
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  Speaker 2: psychotic symptoms. So I'm gonna leave that there because obviously
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  Speaker 2: there's some lapsing and there's a lot of more conversation
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  Speaker 2: we need to have about that whole community of women
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  Speaker 2: that are going through the things.
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  Speaker 3: I believe my hand is raised probably to.
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  Speaker 2: That, but it is good to see that we are
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  Speaker 2: talking about ways to do so that's not necessarily hormonal related,
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  Speaker 2: although that is also a benefit that we need to
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  Speaker 2: be talking about as well. Another time, another time. And
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  Speaker 2: according to other studies, it helps with cortisol levels.
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  Speaker 3: And that has.
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  Speaker 2: Been a buzzword that drives me crazy, but apparently it helps.
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  Speaker 3: And this is from jazzersides dot com. Don't hate it,
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  Speaker 3: they done some research. We love it. We love it
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  Speaker 3: over here.
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  Speaker 2: So they talk about dance cardio, which they say balances
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  Speaker 2: hormones and reduces stress. So I think, when I think
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  Speaker 2: you all understand when I talk about zumba dance cardio,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of all related. It's just the styles are
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  Speaker 2: a little bit different. They say this, Let's talk cortisol,
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  Speaker 2: the stress hormone that tends to spike with overly intense workout,
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  Speaker 2: especially as we age. For women thirty five plus, high
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  Speaker 2: stress exercise can sometimes do more harm than good, increasing inflammation,
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  Speaker 2: disrupting sleep, and making hormone imbalances worse. Dance cardio offers
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  Speaker 2: a powerful solution. The moderate intensity combined with joyful movement,
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  Speaker 2: helps reduce cortisol while boosting feel good hormones like endorphins, dopamine,
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  Speaker 2: and serotonin. This creates a hormonal environment that supports better sleep,
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  Speaker 2: reduced anxiety, and even improved metabolism. And they also talk
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  Speaker 2: about the fact that it helps with muscle preservation and strength.
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  Speaker 2: But it is a low impact class unless you do
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  Speaker 2: real big moves, which I do sometimes. So wat Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: just forewarning everyone, find your find your moderet And this
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  Speaker 2: is from upbeat dot com. They talk about several other
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  Speaker 2: ways that it helps, including it helps build self confidence,
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  Speaker 2: it builds social connections, which it really does. This is
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  Speaker 2: my this is my outgoing, outgoing these like I actually
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  Speaker 2: made friends. We had a class last night and I
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  Speaker 2: was able to be with people I hadn't been with
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  Speaker 2: because you know, things change because people get different schedules.
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  Speaker 3: And it was such a delight.
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  Speaker 2: It was like my old dance world plus my new
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  Speaker 2: dance world came together. It was so fun that I
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  Speaker 2: got text messages from people last night, like we went
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  Speaker 2: out partying.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I'm so old, don't start with me anyway.
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  Speaker 2: That article talks about some of these things, including again
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  Speaker 2: it can help with trauma. They say, this movement creates
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  Speaker 2: a space where participants can release pent up emotions healthily
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  Speaker 2: and constructively. The physical exertion strengthens the body and allows
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  Speaker 2: for letting go of emotional burdens. Besides the obvious benefits
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  Speaker 2: of exercise, dance provides an avenue for self expression, which
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  Speaker 2: is crucial for mental health recovery. Every movement becomes a
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  Speaker 2: means of communicating feelings that may be too difficult to
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  Speaker 2: put into words. This form of expression allows women to
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  Speaker 2: explore their emotions without fear of judgment, fostering emotional healing.
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  Speaker 2: Dance fitness encourages participants to connect deeply with their giving
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  Speaker 2: them an outlet to process past experiences in a safe
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  Speaker 2: and supportive environment. In short, it creates an opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: rebuild emotional strength while promoting overall mental well being. I
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  Speaker 2: love that because there are moments where like, you just
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  Speaker 2: really want to get into it and you just really
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  Speaker 2: want to have at it, and there are moments that
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  Speaker 2: you just need to learn to breathe and sit, and
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  Speaker 2: it gives you both of those moments, and you can
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  Speaker 2: put what you need into it as you need it,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully if you're in a safe environment, which I've always
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  Speaker 2: been in a good safe environment, And they conclude this way,
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  Speaker 2: they say in conclusion, dance fitness transforms women's mental health
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  Speaker 2: by offering a powerful blend of physical movement, emotional expression,
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  Speaker 2: and mental resilience. Through dance, women can experience reduce stress,
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  Speaker 2: improve self confidence, and stronger social connection. It provides a
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  Speaker 2: therapeutic outlet for healing emotional wounds and encourages mindfulness, helping
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  Speaker 2: participants stay present and grounded.
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  Speaker 3: Or build a supportive community.
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  Speaker 2: Dance fitness is an active way to achieve emotional balance
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  Speaker 2: and well being. And I agree with all of those statements.
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  Speaker 2: So being able to connect with people in a safe
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  Speaker 2: environment where you're not hopefully not judged and you feel
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  Speaker 2: welcomed is so important in doing all these things. Because
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  Speaker 2: they also talk about again learning a choreography, a learning
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  Speaker 2: a routine really helps you cognitively relearn things you know.
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  Speaker 2: How you have to use your muscles in your brain
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  Speaker 2: is one of those things that you have to use
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  Speaker 2: and constantly use. And being able to learn routines it
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  Speaker 2: really does help with your mindfulness and in combating dementia,
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  Speaker 2: and they really encourage as you age.
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  Speaker 3: And start forgetting things.
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  Speaker 2: This could be one of those cognitive exercises that is
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  Speaker 2: really good for you. I laugh it myself.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes total sense to me. And it's not
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  Speaker 4: quite the same. But we have talked about that before
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  Speaker 4: with hiking, right, which can be a communal activity that
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  Speaker 4: can be solo. But that's a lot of times when
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  Speaker 4: I hike. That's what I get out of It is
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  Speaker 4: sort of both a mindfulness and a connection and kind
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  Speaker 4: of like a disconnect from where my brain is freaking
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  Speaker 4: about freaking out about like whatever is going on, because
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  Speaker 4: I just have to focus on the next step and
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  Speaker 4: make sure I fall off the sprain my ankle and
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  Speaker 4: fall and dancing yet like with the music going and
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  Speaker 4: having those moves.
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  Speaker 1: And now that I think this makes complete.
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  Speaker 2: Sense, all right and by let's dance twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: we're all dancing.
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  Speaker 4: No Ah, sure, sure sure. Back when I was still
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  Speaker 4: on Twitter, when it was Twitter, I posted I had
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  Speaker 4: I was dancing like no one was watching, and someone
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  Speaker 4: was watching because I looked out my window and there
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  Speaker 4: was this group of people that were just looking at
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  Speaker 4: me apporting. I'm like, oh, like duct duction down embarrassing
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  Speaker 4: quick embarrassingly quickly.
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  Speaker 3: They were just impressed with your movements.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure that's what it was.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly what that was.
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  Speaker 1: It was fun.
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