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  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Ben Mahler
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  Speaker 2: This is the best of the Ben Maler Show on
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  Speaker 1: A show down weekend baseball style.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome in not beginning of another week of the Ben
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  Speaker 3: Malers Show. We are in the air AmWhere cohorts as
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  Speaker 3: we are the pulse of the people, coast, the coast, border.
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  Speaker 1: Water and beyond on the vast and talkatively powerful microphones
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  Speaker 1: of FSR and monating live from the craft the hand
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio Studios as approved by Nico Enzo and all
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  Speaker 1: the great listeners in Vancouver that came out, had a
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  Speaker 1: wonderful time last week the Mallard Meet and Greet and
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  Speaker 1: spent the weekend there in Vancouver. So big thanks to
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  Speaker 1: Nico who made that happen. We'll have some more stories
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  Speaker 1: throughout them. Hopefully I'll catch up with Nico at some
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  Speaker 1: point on the on the pod and we'll have full
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  Speaker 1: in depth team coverage of the weekend that was around Vancouver.
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  Speaker 1: But our lead this hour. It's all about sporty mixed sport,
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  Speaker 1: and the big game on Sunday, the big weekend showdown,
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  Speaker 1: must see, must see the baseball game as we head
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  Speaker 1: into the month of June. Now the June second show
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  Speaker 1: here as the calendar flipped over the weekend at Chavez Ravine,
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  Speaker 1: the final matchup of the regular season, and they only
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  Speaker 1: played three games, the Bronx Bombers and the Boys in
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  Speaker 1: Blue the Doyers as they wrapped up the weekend series
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  Speaker 1: in Island. Game in Sunday night baseball, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you're watching this or not, maybe not. I
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  Speaker 1: had it on in the background and a former Dodger,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Yarborough limiting the Dodger offense and we had four
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  Speaker 1: hits against him over six innings and Ben Rice, oh
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  Speaker 1: so nice. He hit a big bomb to center field,
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  Speaker 1: tie breaking two run homer and the Yankees salvage a game.
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  Speaker 1: They got their ass kicked by the Dodgers this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: but they didn't win a game seven to three. They
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  Speaker 1: avoid getting sweeped or swept out of Dodger Stadium. Now
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers their top pitcher this year, the only one
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  Speaker 1: that's not hurt. Last I checked Yoshinobu Yamamoto, the ace
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  Speaker 1: of the current Dodgers. He got lit up. He had
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  Speaker 1: a clunker against the Yankees in that game. But you
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  Speaker 1: got to look at the big picture. So Yarborough, who
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  Speaker 1: cares about He's not going to pitch any big games
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  Speaker 1: for the Yankees in the playoffs. Let's be honest about that.
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  Speaker 1: So you push that aside. And he pitched fine. He
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  Speaker 1: was a reliever on the Dodgers, so memorable. You didn't
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  Speaker 1: even know he was on the team in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: four when they won the World Series. And he got
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  Speaker 1: a ring over the weekend. And so there you go.
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  Speaker 1: But the whole weekend three games. That's it. We have
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  Speaker 1: three games to judge the Dodgers versus the Yankees at
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  Speaker 1: this point. So let us discuss the question what does
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  Speaker 1: this weekend showdown series say about Aaron Boone's Yankees and
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  Speaker 1: how they match up with the Dodgers because they did
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  Speaker 1: lose the series. They might have won the game on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: but they lost the series. We got atomic high mileage
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  Speaker 1: and moon landings, and we will combine all of these
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  Speaker 1: things together and we are going to make the Baba
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  Speaker 1: Ganoosh is what we're going to make with a side
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  Speaker 1: of poutine. All right, So a now I realize that
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  Speaker 1: it is June. I have been reminded it is June,
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  Speaker 1: and we know people are going to say, ah, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything, it's June baseball. But I look at
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  Speaker 1: it like horse racing, and these teams will be much
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  Speaker 1: different by the time we get down to the end
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  Speaker 1: of the regular season in October and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like you're watching the Kentucky Derby and at
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  Speaker 1: the quarter pole mark you look to see who's in
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  Speaker 1: the lead. Now, doesn't mean that that horse who's in
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  Speaker 1: the lead is going to win, but it gives you
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good indication at that point in the race
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  Speaker 1: that horse is doing very well in the race. We
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  Speaker 1: do the show today, right, we do the show today,
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  Speaker 1: and so today, at this moment, the New York Yankees
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  Speaker 1: have some explaining to do. Yeah, they got some catching
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  Speaker 1: off here, and it was a much bigger series. I
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  Speaker 1: think every man, woman and Chili can agree. Much bigger
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  Speaker 1: series for Aaron Judge and the Yankees. And you know
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  Speaker 1: he had some all Munsi, but a much bigger deal
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  Speaker 1: for the Yankees at this point to get a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of payback and just to let everyone know, hey,
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  Speaker 1: whither the Yankees are high for looting team and all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff, and it's not gonna be the same situation
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  Speaker 1: as last year when Aaron Judge futched around in center
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  Speaker 1: field and one of my favorite defensive plays I've ever
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  Speaker 1: seen in posting people talk about Bill Buckner and his
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  Speaker 1: boner at first place for the Red Sox back in
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  Speaker 1: the day, Aaron Judge misplaying a routine ball in cenate
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  Speaker 1: field chef's kiss in my humble analysis, So how did
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  Speaker 1: the series go for the Yankees? So they went on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: But if you look at the first two games of
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  Speaker 1: the series, instead of payback, a battered roster for the Doyers,
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  Speaker 1: a battle scarred unit that they sent out there, pitching
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  Speaker 1: staff completely flea bitten, the lineup weather bitten as well,
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  Speaker 1: and they outscored the Yankees the first two games of
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  Speaker 1: the series twenty six to seven. They put eighteen runs
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday, and the big one, though, was on Friday.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the one that is a kick to the
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  Speaker 1: nuts for the Yankees. They went out and they lost
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  Speaker 1: Juan Soto and they got Max Freed, and they got
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  Speaker 1: Max Freed for big games against teams like the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: And Max Freed had tight took his syndrome against the
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers in that game on Friday, and it was glorious
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  Speaker 1: to see. And it's embarrassing for the Yankees be considered
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  Speaker 1: Mookie Betts. He supposedly hurt himself his TUTSI at his house.
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  Speaker 1: I'm skeptical. I always think there's more to those stories.
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  Speaker 1: When I hear baseball players getting injured like that, I
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  Speaker 1: always say there's something else going on. Was he the
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  Speaker 1: karate kid? Was he kicking something? I don't know. But anyway, overall,
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  Speaker 1: for the Yankees, this was the atomic wedgie for them
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  Speaker 1: to come in here and they had kicked ass. I
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  Speaker 1: think they swept the Angels. They played very well, won
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  Speaker 1: their last couple of series in dominating fashion. And they
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  Speaker 1: go into Dodger State and they were strutting in there
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  Speaker 1: like a peacock. They had their feathers off, and they
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  Speaker 1: just got punched the first two days bludgeoned. And so
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  Speaker 1: Brian Cashman, who's the nerd emeritus, Brian Cashman and his
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  Speaker 1: roster of players handpicked players because of the analytics against
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers players and their analytics the overall great. Again,
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  Speaker 1: we're looking at the overall grade here, Dodgers and Yankees.
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  Speaker 1: You look at the overall grade here, and you're like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, they've the players were standing around there
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  Speaker 1: and they looked a little bit confused on Friday, and
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  Speaker 1: certainly on Saturday they were gobsmacked, like they just walked
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  Speaker 1: into some kind of algebra exam and they'd forgotten to study.
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  Speaker 1: For most of the weekend they didn't do any studying.
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  Speaker 1: And again, the Max Freed debacle was the big one.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, a Dodger lineup without Mookie Betts, and they
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  Speaker 1: really roughed up Freed in that game. And so then
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  Speaker 1: the Yankee apologists will be, ah, everything's fine, I don't worry
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  Speaker 1: about this. Okay, we'll get him in October. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know about that, but at least you have those VHS
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  Speaker 1: tapes of the Great Yankee dynasty of the nineties. You
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  Speaker 1: can go back and watch those old VHS tapes. Now. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: to Arizona we go a snap, crackle, pop goes, let's
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  Speaker 1: ease and well, not yet, but it's looking that way.
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  Speaker 1: The big free agent pitching move of the offseason not
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  Speaker 1: exactly working out that well right now for the team
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  Speaker 1: that calls themselves the Diamondbacks. If you did not see this,
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  Speaker 1: Corbin Burns, mister Burns of Arizona set for the dreaded
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  Speaker 1: m our eye on his tender elbow. He left to
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  Speaker 1: start on Sunday after seventy pitches. So question, can you
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  Speaker 1: put into context what this Corbin Burns injury means in Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: So I've got I'll keep it simple, right. This is
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  Speaker 1: a not a body blow. It's a gut punch, is
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  Speaker 1: what this is. And the Diamondbacks were in the World
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  Speaker 1: Series a couple of years ago. They still think of
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  Speaker 1: themselves as this darling of October baseball that all they
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  Speaker 1: have to do is get in and then they've got
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  Speaker 1: the kind of team, a bunch of pesky hitters that
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  Speaker 1: they can make this big run. And if you look
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  Speaker 1: at Burns, though, his velocity was down, which is generally
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  Speaker 1: known as a dead way. A dead way, there are
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  Speaker 1: some serious issues. The thing of a jig and the
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  Speaker 1: watch McCall it are not exactly working right there. And Burns,
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  Speaker 1: this is kind of a big deal. He signed a
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  Speaker 1: six year contract for two hundred and ten million this
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  Speaker 1: offseason for the Diamondbacks, and everyone was like, what are
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  Speaker 1: you doing when they signed with that contract. This is
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  Speaker 1: a guy that had shown signs with the orioles of decline.
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  Speaker 1: There were some red flags. We had mentioned them in
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  Speaker 1: previous Mallard monologues about Burns showing some signs of being
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  Speaker 1: a ticking time bomb and tick tick tick tick tick
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  Speaker 1: tick tick tick tick tick ticking, and well, this is
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  Speaker 1: not officially kaboom. It's down kaboom highway is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll see Tory Lavello, the manager of the Diamondbacks,
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  Speaker 1: says he's quote more than minimally concerned. Okay, no kidding,
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  Speaker 1: thank you very much. This is not just some kind
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  Speaker 1: of blip on the radar here. This is a potential iceberg.
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  Speaker 1: And you very rarely see icebergs in the Greater Phoenix,
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  Speaker 1: especially as we go into June and July and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. But The Diamondbacks are floundering. They're a sub
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  Speaker 1: five hundred team at this point, struggling to stay afloat
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  Speaker 1: in a division with the Doyers and the Padres and
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  Speaker 1: the Giants, who have been okay, not as good as
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  Speaker 1: they were at the beginning of the art. Now, last word,
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  Speaker 1: you know that this show is built on losers. The
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  Speaker 1: Ben mal Show. We love losers, and there is no
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  Speaker 1: bigger loser story than in Colorado. I said in New York.
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  Speaker 1: But this series was in New York or Queen's Flushing,
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  Speaker 1: but involves the Colorado Rockies, the team in Colorado who
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  Speaker 1: got swept by the Metropolitans. Now that's not surprising. What
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  Speaker 1: is surprising. It is now official. It has been rubber stamped.
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  Speaker 1: It is a dune deal. The Rockies have played fifty
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  Speaker 1: nine games and they have lost fifty That is the
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  Speaker 1: worst record in the history of professional baseball since nineteen
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  Speaker 1: oh one. That's one hundred and twenty plus years of baseball,
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  Speaker 1: and no one has reached the level of suckage as
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Colorado Rockies. This is the era
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  Speaker 1: for teams that blow. You had the White Sox last year.
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  Speaker 1: Now you've got the Rockies. But the Rockies the first
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  Speaker 1: team ever to lose fifty before they won ten. Do
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  Speaker 1: you realize how hard that is to lose fifty before
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  Speaker 1: you win ten? You know, just showing up and going
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  Speaker 1: about as a professional, you're gonna win roughly, as the
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  Speaker 1: old line goes, the great late Tommy Lesorda used to preach,
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  Speaker 1: and I heard this many times from Lasorda, every team's
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  Speaker 1: gonna win fifty games. They're gonna lose fifty or win
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  Speaker 1: sixty and lose sixty. It's what you do with the
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  Speaker 1: other games, that's what matters. Okay, the Rockies have been
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  Speaker 1: swept ten times in twenty series. They've been swept ten times.
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  Speaker 1: That is tied for the most sweeps in twenty series
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  Speaker 1: with the nineteen sixty two Mets and the nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers. Not a team that is very memorable unless
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  Speaker 1: you're I guess in Wisconsin and the nineteen ninety four
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  Speaker 1: what used to be called the Oakland Athletics back when
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  Speaker 1: Oakland had a team, but now they're just a nomad
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  Speaker 1: team that doesn't exist in Sacramento. But you can allow
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  Speaker 1: to say that. So what is the word? What is
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  Speaker 1: the word? That describes the twenty twenty five Rockies. So,
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  Speaker 1: after a thorough review of all possible words, the word
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  Speaker 1: I will use is the ah word helpless. They are
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  Speaker 1: absolutely see. The thing that's wild is you talk to
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  Speaker 1: old school baseball people. They romanticize suck like the Mets,
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  Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty two Mets with Casey Stengel romanticized. This
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  Speaker 1: is a magical thing. They've been books written about, the
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  Speaker 1: documentaries about them. It was a magical bad team. There's
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  Speaker 1: nothing redeeming about the twenty twenty five Rockies. They're not
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  Speaker 1: entertaining in a bad way. They're not entertaining in a
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  Speaker 1: good way. They're just garbage. That's what they are. It's wild.
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  Speaker 1: You'd think you're so bad at nine and fifty that
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  Speaker 1: there's something where you feel empathy for them, But that
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  Speaker 1: nine fifty baseball record, it's like, that's a cry for
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  Speaker 1: an intervention, is what that is. It's like a basketball
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  Speaker 1: record that you're trying to take for the top pick.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my god, since nineteen oh one, think about this.
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  Speaker 1: Since nineteen oh one, we've had multiple world wars, we've
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  Speaker 1: had moon landings, the Internet has been invented, television and
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  Speaker 1: radio have been invented, and not once since nineteen oh
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  Speaker 1: one has anyone in Major League Baseball been so pathetic
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  Speaker 1: after fifty nine games as the twenty twenty five Colorado
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  Speaker 1: Rockies and spoiler alert, spoiler alert, the the Rockies said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: hold my course life. Of course they said hold my
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  Speaker 1: course light, and then of course they drop it as
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  Speaker 1: they handed it to you, and just another error for
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  Speaker 1: the flotsam and the jetsam here as man like they're
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  Speaker 1: auditioning for some kind of reboot of They're not trying
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  Speaker 1: to leave Colorado Major League maybe bad news baar major League.
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  Speaker 1: They'd be trying to go to somewhere where it's sunny
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  Speaker 1: and get out of Colorado. It's not that, it's just
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  Speaker 1: they're just they're just bad, and they're not really rebuilding.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe in rebuilding anyway. They're not. They're not
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  Speaker 1: intentionally being bad. They're just bad, which is a special
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  Speaker 1: kind of bad. It's on the spectrum of bad. It's
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  Speaker 1: beyond bad because if you're trying to be bad, like
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  Speaker 1: the White Sox are trying to be bad and they bad,
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  Speaker 1: the Rockies are, they're like somewhere stuck in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: It's very bizarre what's going on? And we somewhere the
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  Speaker 1: owner of the Rockies is sipping a cocktail and you know,
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  Speaker 1: hanging out in some luxury box and we're watching these games,
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  Speaker 1: having a grand time as the team rolls out, Die
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  Speaker 1: die die Alaya on the field, no playing, no vision,
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  Speaker 1: and no reason to go out if you're gonna watch
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  Speaker 1: if you're in Colorado, like, why would you go to
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  Speaker 1: the game. Maybe to see the other team, But there
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  Speaker 1: really needs to be some kind of sustained the boycott.
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  Speaker 1: It does work. If nobody's showing up, that gets people's attention.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody's watching the games on TV, and people aren't going
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  Speaker 1: to the games, you do get attention. The Rockies years
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  Speaker 1: ago actually led baseball in attendance. Of course, I think
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  Speaker 1: at that time they played if I remember, they played
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  Speaker 1: in the old Broncos Stadium, But they led baseball in
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  Speaker 1: attends for years. They had actually entertaining teams. And that
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  Speaker 1: damn Humidor. It's the humidor that ruined it. I blame
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  Speaker 1: the humid or that and an owner who doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: what he's doing. Rich guy, why'd you buy a baseball team?
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  Speaker 1: The whole point of buying a baseball team. Are you
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  Speaker 1: rich guy? I would think would be to flex and
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  Speaker 1: to brag and you make money. But she can make
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  Speaker 1: money doing other stuff. You don't have to own a
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  Speaker 1: sports team, so why would you buy it and then
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  Speaker 1: just have a floundering, pathetic roster not even put any
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  Speaker 1: effort to do.
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  Speaker 1: that's right, the better story in the losing locker room.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: As our friends from the Big Apple have gone into
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: full meltdown mode, alarm bells are being sounded. Say it
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: ain't so all of that because of the way the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Knicks lost. They lost the first two games at home
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and they end up losing the series in six games
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to Indiana, a series they were heavily favored to win. Now,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeau is the one getting the brunt of the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: anger the range, as a number of fans calling for
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: his head on a platter. They would like him to
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: lose his job. Despite being a couple of wins away
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: from the NBA Finals. The Natives are restless in GoF
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: So let us discuss the question yay or nay yay
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: ornay on coach Tom Thibodeau being on the hot seed
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: as the Knicks are exterminated from the postseason. So I've
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: got McDonald's allergic reaction and soybeans, and we will combine
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: all of these things together, and we are gonna make
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the Gabba goool. We're gonna make the Gabba goool, is
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. All right, So number, I said number.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Why so I am in the nay category. Now, I
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: do realize that coaches are expendable. They are like plastic forks.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: You use them and then throw them away. They're not
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: meant to be used more than one time. I got that. However,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I like the way that Tom Thibodeaux teams play guilty
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: as charged your honor, I do. I like the way
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: his teams play. And you can fire Tom Thibodeau and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: bring in some other jibbroni and all that. But I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: don't know how you do that when you've already celebrated
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: your championship. Remember the New York Nick fan base had
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: their championship. They beat the Boston Celtics in the second
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: round and tea champions. We are the champions of the world.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: They had to celebration. I think they had the parade
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: through the Canyon of Heroes. I can't confirm that or not.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I wasn't there. There were rumors that were going to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: do that. They were throwing trash at Pacer fans, the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: vermin in Manhattan. So and also Brian Winhorse got attacked
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: by some of these geniuses there. So you celebrate your championship.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: You're not supposed to play another game after you win
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: your championship. When you win the Super Bowl, you don't
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: have to play again. When you win the NBA Championship
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and beat the Celtics like the Knicks did, you're not
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: supposed to have to play again. So that's the problem here.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And so the little celebration, the Canyon of Heroes and
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: congratulations on these are the same fans. Though after that
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: moment where they beat the Celtics, they were ready to
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: rip apart some subway car, some MTA subway medal off
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the cars there and they were gonna rip those off
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and build a statue out of that metal from some
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: disowned subway car for Thibodeau. And since they lost to
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the Pacers, now it's like you got to get out
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: of here, you know. Since the Pacers zoom past them,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that's it. It's over. And when you break it down
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: the Knicks actually overachieved. Who are you talking about? Okay,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: they did, now they beat this out. Now, I'm not
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: gonna say they beat the Cellies because of Jason Tatum
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: getting hurt, because they were ahead in that series even
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: when Tatum got hurt. They had a choke hold on
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: that series. So that's not it. But if you look
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: at Nick Ross, you've got Jalen Brunson, who's verified good,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns who spotty but talented, and aside from
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: that Tom Thibodau. You look at the rest of the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Knicks roster there and it's not totally patchwork. There's some gritty,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: blue collar players and all that, which is what Tom
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Thibodeau generally likes to put out in the court. They
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: got about where they should have gone Eastern Conference Finals,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that's about where the talent would lead them to be. Well, Indiana,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: it wasn't their time. Well it was their time because
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: they played better than expected, so it was the time.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: But to think this franchise, it's wild to me that
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: that franchise in the biggest media market in America has
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: not won a title since Richard Nixon was in office
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: before the Watergate scandal. It's crazy to me. And they
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: get close. They have a little taste, just a little nibbles.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: They going to Costco getting a sample, got a little
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: nibble there, and then poof, they don't win the whole thing.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: They thought they won. They didn't win. The Nick fan said,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: we beat the Celtics, that's our championship. They didn't get
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the championship trophy. They're all upset. They have a temper
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: tantum like a toddler that went to McDonald's and had
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: a conniption fit because they didn't get their LITLD championship,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: ringing their happy meal. That's the Nick fan right there.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's the Nick fan. Go throw some trash
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: on somebody else, you classy Nick fans, all right now, Paytree.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So it's not just the coaching shrapnel, as Tom Thibodeau
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: feeling the heat. There, the Nick players and coaches collectively
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: putting their venom towards one person in particular. Who would
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: that person be? I'll give you a clue. Kitty, Kitty, Kitty,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that's right. Karl Anthony Towns. Karl Anthony Towns and several
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: several detailed accounts documenting the defensive issues of Carl Anthony Towns,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: longtime Minnesota timber wolf who came to the Knicks in
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the offseason. So give me your reaction to multiple reports
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: pointing the finger of shame and blame at Karl Anthony Town's.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: So my reaction is Stutner with a capital S Stutterer, Right,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: who could not have seen that one coming?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Right? Oh?
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Wait, anyone that's been paying attention to Karl Anthony Towns
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: during his NBA career, nicknamed Kitty Kat the feline of fun,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns. And so I think I'm correct in saying,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: what do I know? I just do the Overnight Show.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I think that is how Karl Anthony Towns has played
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: his entire career and finally the Minnesota and that there
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: were some financial reasons Minnesota got rid of him. However,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: part of it also was the maddening way that he plays,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: and if you look at his body work, he was
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the number one overall pick because of his offensive ability,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: and he's a big guy, can shoot from the outside
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: and make a lot of big baskets for you and
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. He's got a nice touch around the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: rim and so those are all really cool things. And
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: people love that stuff, and he does vanish at times
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: in big games. However, on the other end of the court. Now,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: by no means are we defensive savants, but we do
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: know just from paying attention, having to watch these games
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: on a daily basis, you might as well with Karl
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Anthony Towns for about thirty to forty percent of the game,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you might as well go out there and put in
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Instead of putting a nick jersey, you just put an
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: orange traffic cone out there and that's it. And you
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: can put a jersey on it if you want, But
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: you just put an orange traffic cone out there, and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: at least the cone will stay in its position you
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: put it there, You put the cone down, The cone's
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: not going to move unless someone kicks the cone. The cone,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the orange traffic cone's going to stay there. And so
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Carl Any Towns, he has a allergic reaction to defense
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and being in the right place is supposed to be.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: And there's a bit of poetry in motion. When you
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: play defense in basketball, you're counting on your teammates being
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: where they're supposed to be and then it all works
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: together and all that stuff. And it is ironic that
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the coach had him. Tibbs had him in Minnesota, knew
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: what he was getting. They pick up Carl Anthony Towns
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: and a coach that is all about defense, keep hearing
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: a defensive guy and all that stuff. He wants gritty players.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: And they went out and traded to get Karl Anthony Towns.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And so he doesn't play any defense for thirty or
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: forty percent of the game, and all of a sudden,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: it's like, what are we doing here? And so the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: next dude, you think they're gonna get rid of Carl Anthony. No,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: they're not going to trade him, not this year, not
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: this offseason. That would be a stunner. They got to
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: figure out a way to cover up that blind spot.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: And if they can't figure it out, then eventually they
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: will get rid of him after this upcome season. But
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: they know going in that Carl Anthony Towns is a
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: defensive liability. And if you're the other team and you're
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: going against the Knicks, you can take advantage of Carl
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Anthony Towns as a soft spot. You can attack all
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: right now, final point, turning the page. It's NBA Finals time.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Now we've got copy later in the hour for pick
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: six from draftings. This was a matchup designed for that. Okay,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I'm like, oh
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you should. I don't work for the NBA. You should
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: be a cheerleader. I don't. I don't care. I mean,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I got a show to do, so I'm gonna watch
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and that's fine. And there's a couple of things I'm into,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: but other than that, not so much. So First Peak,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: litt peak aboo, First peak NBA Finals matchup, which starts
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: later this week. What is your level of excitement? Level
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: of excitement for the Pacers and the Thunder Small mar
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: USA in the NBA Finals on the showcase Showdown, So
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: what is your level of excitement for the Pacers versus
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the Thunder. So, after a minutes long Malard deliberation, taking
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: in all factors, all the details, all of it, we
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: determined on a scale of one to ten, with ten
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: being must see TV, must see TV. That's like, you know,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Kobe back in the day, Michael Jordan back in the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: must see TV. Not even Lebron is man person, I'm
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: going wait before that. So this matchup gets a toe.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I am at a two for the NBA Finals matchup.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: And the only reason I'm giving it a two is
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: because we have a member of the Clippers Alumni Association
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: SGA who won the MVP this year now can cap
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it all off by winning a championship. Other than that,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Other than that, looking around here, this is a a
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: matchup that should be on NBA TV. Am I wrong
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: on that? You know how they put like the worst
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: games on NBA TV during the opening round of the playoffs,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: they put the top games on Network TV, and then
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: they put the crap on NBA TV. This should be
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: on NBA TV. In fact, this could even be like
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: on a podcast that no one listens to, which is
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: most podcasts that no one listens to, so they can
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: put it on a podcast. Unless you're in I don't know, Carmel, Indiana,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: or Tulsa, Oklahoma, or somewhere in that radius right around there.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: This is the Finals equivalent to sitting outside your home
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: and you're looking around and your neighbors decided to paint
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: their home, and not even their home, just a fence
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: near your home. So it's a defence that divides your
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: home in their own. So they've said, Okay, I'm gonna
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: paint the fence and You're sitting there watching this and
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: they've decided to paint it a nice shade of beige,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and you sit there watch it because you have nothing
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: else to do, and so you watch it. Whoobie, that's
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: what you do. And I get that for some people,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: it's unique. And this is by far the worst matchup
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: in NBA Finals history in terms of juice. There is
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: no juice. It's it's adorable for some people, and they
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: love it, and they're the people that will say it's great.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: People are gonna watch. These are the same people during
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the NCAA basketball tournament get excited when nowhere you wins
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: on the opening a couple of days of the tournament.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: So you get a bunch of crap teams that win
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and then it turns out, well, people don't like to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: watch those teams, and it's it's a problem. But the
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: small markets, this is their moment, right, this is your
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: big moment in the sun. The NBA changed all the
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: rules to accommodate the mid size to small markets, and
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: so you got teams. These are good basketball towns. Indianapolis.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I was the last time the Pacers were in the finals.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I was there and it was wonderful. It was a
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: great The town was buzz. It was a lot of fun.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: The Pacers played the Lakers, the Shaq Kobe Lakers, and
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I got to go to those games in Indianapolis. I
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: have great memories of that. And so Oklahoma City. I've
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: been to Oklahoma City. Not a lot going on, but
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: you got your basketball team. You look around. So it's
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: like apple beans versus Golden Corral. It's porking eggs from
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma versus what cornfields and soybeans in Indianapolis in Indiana
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: in that area there, And where's the sizzle? Is there
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: any sizzle? Probably not like the star Power. What about Halliburton,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Well you got the every pes. Say jogis Alexander, that's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: your meal ticket. That's the sizzle. Really, that's like cooking
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: in an air fryer. You know what I'm saying. I
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: mean air friar's good. Suppose he's healthier for you. I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: use the air fryer. It tastes better when you put
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: in a deep fryer. There's no deep fryer. It's an
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: air fryer. That's what this is. I mean. These guys
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: are nice players, and for some it's a good story
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and I, however, does not move the needle nactually, And
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: then again, this is not my problem. This is an
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: NBA problem. And if you love shot in Freuda, if
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: you want to get back at the NBA and ESPN ABC,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: then this is wonderful. This is the ultimate fu to
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: ESPN ABC to put these teams in the NBA Finals
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: because they're going to have to make so many make goods.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Is there any man, woman, or child who's a casual
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: observer of a sport in places like Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the major metropolis is of America, Dallas that is going
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to watch this matchup. If you're a gambler, I get it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: If you're you got know somebody on the team, okay,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: fair enough. If you're from those areas, that's fine. But
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: outside of that, what is the reason to watch? What
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: is the reason to watch? And yeah, you got your
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: hard old people that will tune in no matter what,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and that's fine, And again not our issue. This is
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: an Adam Silver problem. We'll watch because we have a
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: nightly show show to do. But my goodness, holy crap,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: like what is going on here? Well, we'll see, we'll
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: see what watches and all that and it's and we
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: do broadcasting, not narrow casting. That would appear to be
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: a narrow audience for the NBA Finals, be.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller Show
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: There we go, It's Mallard. How about that? To the
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: third degree?
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: This is one gets hard.
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: Late last week, Jason Kelsey suggested on his podcast that
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: a team representing the NFL and a team representing flag
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: football players. So you know, I guess professional flag football
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: players have a game to determine who the twenty twenty
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: eight US Olympic team will be. Ben, what do you
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: think of this idea.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: It's a terrible idea because the NFL players would lose
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: and that would be embarrassing. And the NFL wants their
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: players in the game. So no, that's a terrible idea.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: These people play flag football all the time. They're good
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: at it. The NFL players aren't. They play tackle football.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: It's a different sport. The NFL is good. They want
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: their players in the Olympics, and that's a bad idea.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: Next, John Harbaugh recently spoke with the media and said
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: that he wants to see tight end Isaiah likely be
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: an All Pro next season and that he is very
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: capable of doing it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Ben, do you think likely can be an All Pro
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: tight end? So the Chargers coach thinks one of his
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: players should be an All Pro? Shouldn't they all be
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: All Pro? Shouldn't you want everyone to be shouldn't you?
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Ravens, rather wouldn't want everyone
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: to be an All Pro? Yes? Lamar Jackson loves tight ends,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: so yes, absolutely.
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: Next, Kirby Smart said over the weekend that he thinks
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: the biggest issue with college football is the timing or
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: the transfer portal windows. Right now there are two when
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: in December one and April. Smart says that should only
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: be one and that other coaches unanimously agree. Ben, is
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: he right about it being the biggest issue. But it's
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: a giant problem. It's not the it's one of the
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: biggest issues. Let's put it that when they got to
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: fix that's ridiculous.
• 37:05
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• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Hey you sports figure guy? Or here here were you
• 37:32
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• 37:36
  Speaker 1: No one's paid attention to me for ten whole seconds,
• 37:38
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• 37:41
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• 37:46
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• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the wacky world of sports? Who hoo hoo? Well, rather obvious.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: The NBA is a multi billion dollar industry and they
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: are going to try to get people that don't really
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: care about basketball to watch Oklahoma City in Indiana. So
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: any marketing advice, marketing advice to get people to watch
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, which start later this week and appear
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: to be a ratings armageddon for television. You're live on
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• 38:24
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• 38:33
  Speaker 1: That's Tony the Bay. Hello, you're on the air. Caller two,
• 38:36
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• 38:54
  Speaker 1: How dare you I had to go to a Raptors game?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: That would be fun. Hello, Line line six, you're on
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the airline six. Hello, good morning time.
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  Speaker 6: Let him play on ice.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: That's a great idea. Yeah, that's a wonderful idea. Why
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: it works for hockey? Put the basketball players on ice?
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Put them on skates. Let's go back to you on
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: line five. You're on the airline five. Advice to the
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: NBA Marketing Department. Line five. Line five's not there. We'll
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: go to you your next advice to the NBA marketing
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: on the NBA Finals matchup. This is Robert Kraft and.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: The Knickerbucker should have paid the officials for money.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: All right, there he is our buddy from Maine. Al Right,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: he's back line number six. You're on the airline six. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: give me liberty. Okay, I think we know what's when
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you're getting there. It sounds like you're close to the
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: other one. Line six, Hello, line six no commercials stripperts okay,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: no Hello. Line one, you're on the Airline one. Okay,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: there's a cat right there. Line too hello, Line two
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: yeah too slow. Hurry up, cool piggot, hurry up. Last
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  Speaker 1: one six, Line six you're on there goe sex sash
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: line sas bad job by line sex. You gotta talk.
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  Speaker 1: Line six. You screwed up the whole bit. Line sa