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Normally Podcast: Trump-Mamdani's Oval Office Meeting & Holiday Insights · Normally

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  Speaker 1: Hey, we are back. Normally, they shouldn't normal.
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  Speaker 2: It takes for Wendy and gets weird. I'm Mary Katherine
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  Speaker 2: and I'm Carol Marko. It's how are you married, Catherine?
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  Speaker 2: How was your weekend?
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  Speaker 1: Pretty good? I went to the beach for the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I a little get away in Nice.
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  Speaker 2: Which beach?
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  Speaker 1: I love it?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, back to where you got married.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. And so got a little, I mean very
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  Speaker 1: little son. I'm me, but I pretended like I was
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  Speaker 1: getting sun and had a cocktail and then came back
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  Speaker 1: ready for to do it all again. Yeah, tan, rested
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  Speaker 1: and ready for my next vacation.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Thanksgiving my favorite holiday. I really love it.
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  Speaker 2: I love the whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: I love the food, I love the thankfulness, I love
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  Speaker 3: the family. I'm all about it. My brother and his
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  Speaker 3: family are visiting. They're here for their year. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I hate the whole switching off years.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, you gotta do it right, you got to.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta share him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited. We're going to North Carolina, so we'll be
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  Speaker 1: out of here in a couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: Love it all right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, before we get to the turkey and the stuffing
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  Speaker 3: and the side dishes Donald Trump and z or Mom
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  Speaker 3: Donnie had a much too warm situation happened at the
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  Speaker 3: Old Office on Friday, and I wasn't sure if we
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  Speaker 3: would still be talking about this for Tuesday's episode, but
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  Speaker 3: it remains kind of the biggest story around.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anything else is beating it today. Well
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about those two crazy kids and the fun
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  Speaker 3: they had at the Oval Office together.
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  Speaker 1: They had so much fun. So Mom Donnie comes down
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  Speaker 1: to the Oval Office a couple things from his perspective.
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  Speaker 1: From Mom Donnie's, I do think there's a risk of
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  Speaker 1: losing a bunch of cred with his very liberal folks.
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  Speaker 1: But the problem for him is he needs someone to
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  Speaker 1: fund his socialism.
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  Speaker 3: The funding of the socialism is always the hardest part
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  Speaker 3: of the socialism, and like.
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  Speaker 1: Hookl might not do it, So I guess he's coming
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  Speaker 1: down here. She's definitely not. I think mostly the two
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  Speaker 1: of them like the camera more than almost anything else
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  Speaker 1: that was happening that day, and so the both of
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  Speaker 1: them were like, this is great. Everybody's got all eyes
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  Speaker 1: on us. But it occurred to me that Mamdani is
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  Speaker 1: doing what twenty seventeen Democrats should have done hich.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, just roll up in that Oval office.
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  Speaker 1: Tell him how many votes he got in your district.
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  Speaker 1: How there's so many people who agree with him on stuff,
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  Speaker 1: How you agree with him on stuff? Here's the things
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  Speaker 1: we should do together, And he's like, maybe we should Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I wrote about this at the time, how Democrats were
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  Speaker 3: missing a huge opportunity. Trump is not in doctrinaire Republican.
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  Speaker 3: They could have gotten so much from him, with him
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  Speaker 3: all around, they chose to fight him instead. Actually I
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  Speaker 3: called this the Kim Kardashian rule. She was like, come
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  Speaker 3: to the Oval office, take a bunch of pictures together.
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  Speaker 2: Get what I want. Policy wise, she got, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, a party for an yes and policy change about
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  Speaker 3: non violent drug non violent offenders in general.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's the first step back, That's what it
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  Speaker 2: was called.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, very effective work on her part, right, something people
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  Speaker 1: should have learned from and perhaps Mom Danny is the
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  Speaker 1: guy who did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I have to admit to a bit of an emotional
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  Speaker 3: rollercoaster ride about this whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know I first saw it.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, like really didn't like it,
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  Speaker 3: felt that betrayed by Trump, because listen, if we didn't
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  Speaker 3: we didn't talk about it in advance, but had we
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  Speaker 3: talked about it, I would have said Trump is going
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  Speaker 3: to kill him with kindness.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be super nice. All of that. I
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  Speaker 2: knew that was going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: I had no illusions that they were going to have
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  Speaker 3: some major clash in the Oval Office.
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  Speaker 2: But I felt, I don't know, like I didn't like.
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  Speaker 3: The line that particularly I didn't like was Donald Trump
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  Speaker 3: saying conservatives are going to be happy about some of
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  Speaker 3: his policies, and I was like, no, we're not very much.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: But I have been on a little bit of an
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  Speaker 3: emotional rollercoaster about this, and I have ultimately come out
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  Speaker 3: on There was some really wise.
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  Speaker 2: Things that Trump did.
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  Speaker 3: The joke that he made, well we'll play a clip
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  Speaker 3: in a minute, but I'll just tell you the joke
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  Speaker 3: that everybody was sharing where a reporter asked, Mom, Donnie,
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  Speaker 3: do you still think Trump is a fascist? And Trump
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  Speaker 3: is like, go ahead, say yes, who cares, Like you
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  Speaker 3: know it's fine, and m Donnie's like, yes, he's a fascist.
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  Speaker 3: But then he said it again on the Sunday shows.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was Meet the Press at that point,
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  Speaker 3: it sounded completely defangd he he doesn't think he's a fascist.
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  Speaker 3: He can't even say it anymore because you stood next
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  Speaker 3: to a fascist and told him how people in your
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  Speaker 3: district voted for him and share work them together. Come on,
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  Speaker 3: if you think he's a fascist, you're not doing that.
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  Speaker 3: So Trump really did get him in that way. And
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  Speaker 3: I think he doesn't have the kind of nails that
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  Speaker 3: he had going into that meeting.
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Again, like I said, I think both of their prayer,
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  Speaker 1: he was perhaps being on camera and enjoying themselves. That's
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  Speaker 1: number one. Number two, I do think because Trump doesn't
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  Speaker 1: Trump loves New York City. He is not joking around
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  Speaker 1: when he says I want him to succeed.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: He's also not an ideologue, nor is he that interested
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  Speaker 1: in like economic policy outside of terrorists. So he's not
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's spent a ton of time thinking
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  Speaker 1: about what those policies will look like. And he's agreeing
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  Speaker 1: that the buses are very slow. It's like, great, but
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to be free and fast. That's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna happens, sir. If they're free, sure, you know, but
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  Speaker 1: I think like both of these people understand the appeal
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  Speaker 1: a they're good on camera, be they're good at appealing
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  Speaker 1: to populism. Trump a right version, Mamdannie a left version.
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  Speaker 1: So he's they're kind of right that they have things
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  Speaker 1: to agree on and yours. And my complaint about Trump
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  Speaker 1: has always been that he's creeping too far left for
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  Speaker 1: us right, and so I think that's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: what you saw. What I did not like is that
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  Speaker 1: Trump defanged arguments against Mam Donnie by plenty of other
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  Speaker 1: people who could correctly, morally and usefully politically run against
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  Speaker 1: this force in New York City at least. Yeah, but Trump,
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  Speaker 1: That's not Trump's number one priority. Phou show. I think
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  Speaker 1: the thing about Trump is if he likes you, he
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  Speaker 1: likes you. Yeah, And I think this guy came in
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  Speaker 1: and he liked him, and he emphasized the right things.
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  Speaker 1: You could tell mom Donnie had thought about, like what
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  Speaker 1: are the things he likes to hear? Because he kept
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  Speaker 1: emphasizing people who had voted for him and Trump, the
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  Speaker 1: things that Trump and he both want to give to people.
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  Speaker 1: And I did I especially did not love Trump's credulousness
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  Speaker 1: on well he said he doesn't want any crime. It's like, okay, great, same,
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  Speaker 1: how how's that gonna work?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, So I'm sure they have crossover voters.
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  Speaker 3: But if you look at the New York City voting map,
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  Speaker 3: the ange Cuomo areas, the Angeclomo one were the areas
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  Speaker 3: that went for Donald Trump. So while there is some
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  Speaker 3: crossover in general, there isn't.
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  Speaker 1: Also, I don't want to. I don't want to right
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  Speaker 1: populism and left populism. A while that sounds terrible to me,
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  Speaker 1: This is awful, awful, bad economics for everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Totally. Let's play this clip and then get into that.
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  Speaker 2: He's got views and out there, but who knows he's
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  Speaker 2: going to change.
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  Speaker 1: Also, we all change.
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  Speaker 2: I change a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I think he is going to surprise some conservative people. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: President trumpa's desk, and I've.
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  Speaker 2: Been called much worse than a desk bud.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's not that insulting.
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  Speaker 3: I expect to be helping him, not hurting him. A
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  Speaker 3: big help because I want New York City to be great.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think you're sitting next to a johnstraight now
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  Speaker 3: in the overwhelper?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: I know you say things sometimes in a campaign.
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  Speaker 2: I met with a man who's a very rational person.
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  Speaker 1: Are you affirming that you think Trump's a fascist?
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  Speaker 2: I've spoken about that's okay, you can just say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's easier.
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  Speaker 1: It's easier than explaining a pedal. But the pat that
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  Speaker 1: part was very funny.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was funny. I mean, look, Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump has a very good sense of humor. Our concerns
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  Speaker 2: remain that he drifts leftboard when left his own devices.
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  Speaker 2: But you're right, he loves New York. He wants New
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  Speaker 2: York to succeed.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he cares very much about it succeeding
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  Speaker 3: in a conservative policy way, which you know, you and
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  Speaker 3: I would care more about. But yeah, the left and
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  Speaker 3: right populism thing is a real big issue for people
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  Speaker 3: who are not into that sort of thing. We'll talk
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  Speaker 3: about in the next segment about Twitter x now putting
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  Speaker 3: people's location on their bios and what we found in
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  Speaker 3: the last few days again, we'll get into the next segment.
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  Speaker 3: But the groeper class that pushes the left and right
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  Speaker 3: populism together. I've seen so many tweets in the last
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  Speaker 3: few days since the moum Donnie thing, like we need
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  Speaker 3: we need to.
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  Speaker 2: Have social conservativism and liberal economics, and it's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: we don't. We definitely don't.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I think he also probably appealed it sounded
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  Speaker 1: like behind closed doors that Mom Donnie was talking a
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  Speaker 1: lot about building stuff. Again, exactly what Trump wants to hear,
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  Speaker 1: but not what you heard from Mom Donnie on the
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  Speaker 1: campaign trail, and Trump pointed that out. He's like, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't really hear much of that when he was running,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, it's a campaign. But now he's telling
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  Speaker 1: me he wants to build stuff. Okay, I'll believe that
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  Speaker 1: when I see it. But that was part of the
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  Speaker 1: message that appealed to Donald Trump, which then makes him
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  Speaker 1: friendly to you in the room, which means when you're
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: asked about genocide and you affirm that you believe the
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: Israeli government is committing it, you know, to push back
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  Speaker 1: on you.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would really like to see because he knows
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  Speaker 1: better than that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, yes, taking me back to Friday where I
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: was like all angry and then had the weekend to
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: like digest. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Trump loves to be loved.
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  Speaker 3: He loves and people say no thanks to him. It
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: is an achilles heel. I always worried about this, and
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: we saw it in action here.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see where at least Stephonic takes it from here,
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  Speaker 1: because she again is running against Kathy Hochel for governor
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  Speaker 1: of New York and the idea is to use him
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  Speaker 1: as a foil. But if Donald Trump is saying I'd
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: have no problem living in New York under Mom Donny,
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a little bit of an issue.
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  Speaker 2: But he totally will you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Even as a billionaire, even as you know, among the
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: richest people living in New York, you still as soon
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  Speaker 3: as you leave your golden palace, you have homelessness on
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: the street, you have disarray in the city. Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 3: not going back to that. I'll put my five bucks
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  Speaker 3: on it right now. I'm getting too gambling. In the
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: last segment five bucks, Donald Trump does not go back
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  Speaker 3: to New York after his presidency.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Also, Trump reserves the right to change his mind about
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: everything he said a beating tomorrow. Yeah, and he probably
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: will in like a several days.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think at least Devonic should still run against
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  Speaker 3: creeping socialism and Kathy Hockel's embrace of that, and I
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: wish her the best we'll be right back with more
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: on normally and where is your favorite X account from Malaysia, Tunisia, Turkey,
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: we'll find out. We are back on normally where X
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: introduced a very popular new feature where you can click
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: on somebody's profile and see where they signed up for
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: X and where they are based. Basically where what app
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: store they use to log on. So maybe you were
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: on vacation and decided to join Twitter in like you know,
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, and you joined from Aruba, but then your
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: app store still is US. So a lot of people
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: have been exposed because of this, and there's a lot
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: of hoopla around it. I think it's an amazing policy.
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: I actually think you should not have to click through.
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: I think it should be right on the profile so
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: you see where the people are from and what their
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: bias is.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's very important.
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of a lot of accounts have been
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  Speaker 3: exposed in the last few days, including one of my
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: personal favorites, because it does hit the real world, not
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: just in our ex world. Palestinian journalist allegedly that was
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  Speaker 3: writing for the BBC turns out doesn't live in Gaza
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  Speaker 3: at all, lives in Turkey, so yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an interesting thing because it is by
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  Speaker 1: its very nature extremely online, right, But there was the
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  Speaker 1: background is that was there was always this suspicion that
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  Speaker 1: we were being messed with by a lot of accounts
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: that pose as true patriotic America First accounts or tint
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  Speaker 1: dwelling Gaza residents who are happily regurgitated by the BBC
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  Speaker 1: and others that weren't misrepresenting themselves. And we've found that
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  Speaker 1: out on a case by case basis at times. But
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  Speaker 1: I believe and I don't think I'm incorrect about this,
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  Speaker 1: but somebody, Katie Pavlich, suggested this change on Twitter and
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  Speaker 1: Elon Musk took it up and then show these things,
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  Speaker 1: so well done her. And there is a fun sort
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: of flattening of the earth that happens on next where
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: you can just say like, hey, elin you should try this.
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  Speaker 1: So transparency is very helpful because I don't mind if
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  Speaker 1: you're from another country, and America is a superpower. We
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of influence. You have thoughts, Fine, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna take your thoughts with the same weight that
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  Speaker 1: I would other people's, but don't lie to me about
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  Speaker 1: where you are and what you're in and so I
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  Speaker 1: think the transparency is very helpful. And like we always
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  Speaker 1: talk about, these very online things become part of the discourse,
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  Speaker 1: which then is broadcast on media and then sort of
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  Speaker 1: trickles down to become this idea of what our country is.
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  Speaker 1: And if our country is not actually as populated or
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  Speaker 1: animated by groidbers, I would like to know that. I
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  Speaker 1: want to know if they're real.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, That's what it is.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, is what we're seeing online something that's actually
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  Speaker 3: happening or is it manufactured outrage? And I think that
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  Speaker 3: a lot of what we've seen in the last few
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  Speaker 3: days turns out that many of these accounts are in
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  Speaker 3: other countries and they're not actually the farm girl in
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  Speaker 3: Iowa baking pies for her husband and being a good
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: trad wife and commenting on how the Jews are taking
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: everything over. It turns out that's just a dude living
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: in like Morocco and he has some thoughts.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: But I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: Like the thing is, if you're honest, it doesn't matter right,
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: put it right in your bio Moroccan man interested in
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  Speaker 3: American politics, and then put whatever you want and tweet
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  Speaker 3: whatever you want and.
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  Speaker 2: See if it becomes popular.
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  Speaker 3: It still may, but this lie that you're American and
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  Speaker 3: that you have as much of a stake in it
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  Speaker 3: as the rest of us do. It's really appalling, and
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad it's being exposed well.
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  Speaker 1: And there's the larger issue of the attention economy and
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: the fact that monetization of X, although I think admirable
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  Speaker 1: in some ways, incentivizes both rage baiting people sure crazy
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  Speaker 1: things that you don't actually believe, and incentivizes people in
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  Speaker 1: countries that are not as prosperous as ours to log
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  Speaker 1: on and pretend to be Annie in Iowa and put
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: some rage bait out there and make a couple hundred
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  Speaker 1: bucks a month, which is quite good money and it's
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: not a chicken scratch anywhere, but it's much better money
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: in smaller countries with smaller economies, and so you sort
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: of incentivize that situation. That being said, there are plenty
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: of Americans who have these detestable views in many places.
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  Speaker 1: In many cases, I do think perhaps that these points
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  Speaker 1: of view are being favored and amplified in a way
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  Speaker 1: that distorts how many of these people there actually are.
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  Speaker 1: And then that leads people to think you and I
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: don't do it, but like to think that to talk
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  Speaker 1: to your audience, you must adopt these views because your
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: audience is animated by these views. But how animated actually
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: are they? Is it real? Is it not? And I
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: think that's what we're getting a little closer to understanding, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely right.
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  Speaker 3: Other you know, changes that i'd love to see on
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  Speaker 3: X is just I guess to keep up with that.
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  Speaker 3: Does the person still you know, check in from wherever
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  Speaker 3: people are?
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  Speaker 2: They do move they you know, all of that does happen.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're an American and who moved to Russia
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: because you like their system better, I kind of want
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  Speaker 3: that information in your bio.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's important information.
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  Speaker 3: Many other changes you want to see X make. The
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  Speaker 3: edit button needs improvement, by the way, Elon, if you're listening,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: I can never edit my tweets.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Well, so my edit button mostly works. I would say
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: that I know you're a blocker. I'm a muter and
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the mute doesn't work properly.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Blocking also doesn't work properly. Yeah, I saw blocking this weekend. Actually,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: I had I unblocked somebody because I wanted to follow
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: along with their drama.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: But when you block someone, you can't see their tweets?
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Like why not?
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Like, if they block me, I can't see their tweets,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: that's fine. But if I block them, I can't see
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: their tweets. But what if I want to see what
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: they're what their little fight is about, which I did.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the drama shall continue, but I do think
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: we have a better handle on parsing who the Americans
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: are in the drama now?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Which is nice America first? You know?
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we got to run our elections here,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: so I'd like to know which ones are real.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more on normally and gambling
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving? Should you do it?
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: All? Right? We are back on normally with some festive
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: ad making for Thanksgiving, some ideas for things you could
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: do with your family. This is FanDuel. Let's just play
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: the ad and then we'll talk about it.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, what passion leg?
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: What's past the leg? It's a party you built with
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: your friends. Leg passed it on, not him one bad.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Wait, why don't you passed the leg yet?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: You can't rush the leg? Dad working on it. Everybody
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: in the leg has been passed off. Thanksgiving? Bet together
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: like never before, get a profit booth, build a group parlay.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I hate it. I hate it so much. And you
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: know I'm I'm very squishy on gambling. I'm a poker player.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: It is a game of skill, but.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: It has a gambling component that is necessary to the game.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I hate this so much. It's like just infuriated me.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: If you if you didn't see the ad at the end,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: the family sitting around on their phones at Thanksgiving dinner
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: placing bets. It's awful. If you don't know what a
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: parlay is. It's basically the probability of hitting some random
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: thing in a game. And if a bunch of people
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: are placing parlays which are already extremely unlikely to ever hit,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: it's it's just the lowest odds of anything. So there's
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: not only saying go gamble, encourage your family to do it, but.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Place the worst possible bets that you can.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: And do it while sitting at your Thanksgiving table, and
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: do it with all of your family.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a bit of a squish on
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the gambling thing as well, because I don't really have
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: a dog in this fight. I don't gamble. It's just
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: never been interesting to me, But it is a thing
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: that I'm willing to listen to both sides on because
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: my libertarian side is like, okay, well let me listen.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: If you're an adult, you're not hurting anybody else. But
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I can see well enough to know that like this
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: probably has some real downstream bad effects. And the part
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: that's changed over the years since you and I have
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: been paying attention to this is that you can just
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: do it from your phone for everything, anytime, anywhere. And
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: there used to just be a lot more effort involved
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: in going to a place to do the thing that's
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: like maybe not the best use of your time and money,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: and now you're just like, let me do it here
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: with my family at Thanksgiving dinner.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: That seems bad, awful, and PoCA remains illegal online in
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: most places, so it just it makes no sense to me.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I will say that my brother and his family are
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: visiting for Thanksgiving, and I had told my brother that
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Florida recently got open carry. You're now allowed to open
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: carry your guns. So he's like, so let me get
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: this straight. He lands yesterday, He's like, you can go
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: to like a seven eleven in sweatpants with two guns
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: in your whole store exposed. But I can't place a
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: bed online because you actually can't Florida.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: So yeah, no gambling for Thanksgiving, a little brother.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: We are governed by our community standards, you know. That's
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: that's the way it works. And he's in Florida.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I do think that there are dark stories underneath a
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: lot of this online betting and sort of the real
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: mainstreaming of it over the past five years. And this one,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: like you said, seems un wise, not a great use
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: of your time on Thanksgiving, And it's like, do we
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: want to treat that like wordle like exactly right. It's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: sort of treated as if like, oh, we're just doing
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: a game together as fam and I don't know, just
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: sit down and play par cheesy or something.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Totally. Do you have a wordle chat.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I don't have a world chat, but I know other people.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not in touch with the people on
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: these things, but they.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Do have a wordal chat.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: It's very, very, very active every single day.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So that's good. You're learning new things. Yeah, it's doing
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the vocabulary.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, vocabulary is better than betting on people you don't
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: know playing a sport, and that you have no, you
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: have no possibility of affecting.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Like where I always say like poker is different, and
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: it is different than even table games and casinos. You're
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: playing against the house, and poker you're playing against other
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: people and you're playing with your own skills.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: So if poker is illegal.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I don't understand how betting on sports is legal. I'll
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: just you know, I'll be the bummer and say that
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: it shouldn't be quick.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Exit question before we go? What dish are you most
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: looking forward to?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Nobody agrees with me on this. It's the green beans.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: It's the green beans.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: They're so good. I make one with a cornflake topping.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: And it is delicious and it's next to me because
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: nobody else eats it, and I love it.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I love We're the same, but I love a green
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: bean carast. Well, I am going to shout out a
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: different cast role that I only have on Thanksgiving. Well,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: my dad makes a corn bread stuffing that is very
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: special for Thanksgiving too. It's very arduous and we only
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: do it once a year. But there is a potato
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: cast role in the South that's just like potatoes, cheese,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: sour cream, male like all the things that are fat,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and then you put cheese on top and make that crispy,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: and then you put the corn flakes on top with
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the with the butter on top, and it is so
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: decadent and ridiculous, and I only eat it once a.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Year, and I love all Right, ship me that recipe.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Let's do it so we can. We can.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: We can trade off our our green beans and our
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: potato casroles. Care we go.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I hope you're having a very happy Thanksgiving with
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: your families this week.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: We will be back with more normally on Tuesday. We're
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: gonna have a rerun on Thursday. We wish you all
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the best. Have a happy and safe and healthy Thanksgiving.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: M