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8-28-26 Hour 2 - Creeping on Mendoza & the Raiders/Shannon Sharpe on the Pro Bowl's death/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane on demand. Listen live
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Speaker 2: So I did what I have done this entire preseason.
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Speaker 2: Broncos final game coming tonight. I watched the Raiders preseason game.
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Speaker 3: Can I get a thank God? Thank God we're through
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Speaker 3: the preseason tonight. I've enjoyed watching the preseason.
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Speaker 4: I want the actual games to start.
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Speaker 5: This preseason's been boring as all get out.
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Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Well, here's what I'm telling you.
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Speaker 2: I've watched what I've done this entire preseason. I've watched
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Speaker 2: the Raiders as long as Fernando Mendoza's been in because
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Speaker 2: I want to see. Let's see who this guy plays. So,
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Speaker 2: wasn't great yesterday. He threw another pick. It was a
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Speaker 2: high throw over the middle. Tipped pass off of Jalen
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Speaker 2: Naylor's hands. Goes the other way for Sam Frantz.
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Speaker 4: Clint Kubiak, after the game, is asked, you know, what's
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Speaker 4: going on with your QBs?
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Speaker 3: What are you going to do?
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Speaker 2: And he said, haven't made a decision yet. A lot
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Speaker 2: of positions we're looking at basically said nothing.
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Speaker 3: And it kind of goes.
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Speaker 2: Back to, you know, I have just this longstanding thought.
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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people disagree.
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Speaker 4: A lot of people smarter than me.
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Speaker 2: In football disagree with this. I just think if you're
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Speaker 2: drafting somebody number one overall, maybe you don't have to
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Speaker 2: starve in week one.
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Speaker 3: Okay, fine. But he's got to play. He's got to
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Speaker 3: play this year.
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Speaker 2: And Fernando Mendoza isn't, you know, Anthony Richardson. It's not
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Speaker 2: like he's had 12 starts since high school and then.
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Speaker 4: He's just learning the game right now. He's been in
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Speaker 4: this thing.
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Speaker 5: For a while.
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Speaker 3: They've scored three points on his five drives this preseason.
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Speaker 3: But let me just give you an example here for
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Speaker 3: a second. There was a big discussion about whether Bo
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Speaker 3: Nix should start the first game of the year, his
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Speaker 3: rookie season, or if you let Stidham start for a while, right?
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Speaker 3: You guys remember that? Jared Stidham, veteran guy in the league.
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Speaker 3: I don't think there was that cry, though.
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Speaker 5: Jared Stidham versus Kirk Cousins, a little different.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's different. Yes, that is different.
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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins is different than Jared Stidham, but there was
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Speaker 2: absolutely discussion whether Bo Nix should start.
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Speaker 3: I get you.
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Speaker 2: And then if you do that, how long do you commit?
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Speaker 2: You got to commit for at least a little bit,
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Speaker 2: a month, something.
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Speaker 3: Like that, right?
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Speaker 2: If you go back to the rookie year of Bo Nix,
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Speaker 2: Bo Nix was terrible his first couple of games. He
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Speaker 2: threw four interceptions in his first two games. He did
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Speaker 2: not have a touchdown pass. Do you guys remember when
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Speaker 2: that was? It was the monsoon game against the Jets
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Speaker 2: in week four, where he had 60 passing yards, but
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Speaker 2: he had that weird pass to Courtland Sutton in the
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Speaker 2: back of the end zone.
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Speaker 3: That was his first touchdown of the year, a month in.
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Speaker 2: If you didn't let him live through those struggles in
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Speaker 2: the first month, and he got that start maybe in
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Speaker 2: week five or week six.
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Speaker 4: Then you're starting that process later. You probably aren't making
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Speaker 4: the playoffs.
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Speaker 5: I totally understand what you're saying. But for every argument
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Speaker 5: you give me about a quarterback learning on the job,
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Speaker 5: going through the training wheel method, right, just learning how
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Speaker 5: to fall, I get it. There are also quarterbacks who
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Speaker 5: get hurt by starting, who don't pick up, who can't get,
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Speaker 5: I mean.
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Speaker 3: Hurt mentally? Yes, yes, yes. And I'll give you the
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Speaker 3: classic example of one of them. He won the Super
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Speaker 3: Bowl this year. Sam Darnold. Yeah, he was seeing ghosts
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Speaker 3: in New York. Yeah, but Vic, the New York Jets. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but wait a second.
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Speaker 5: If he had the opportunity to learn on the job
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Speaker 5: for a year, maybe it's a little different. And all
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Speaker 5: I'm saying is you're not wrong. I just think it's
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Speaker 5: a case-by-case basis.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I think so too. That's all.
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Speaker 2: But I would say if, and this is just the
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Speaker 2: way I think about it, and it might be stupid,
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Speaker 2: but it's the way that my brain operates.
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Speaker 3: If you're somebody who gets hit.
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Speaker 2: With a little bit of a confidence killer because you
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Speaker 2: struggle early in your career. I think, one, your coach
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Speaker 2: needs to probably do a better job of shepherding you along,
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Speaker 2: knowing that this was coming.
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Speaker 5: Or maybe you're not the guy.
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Speaker 2: Or two, maybe you're not cut out for it. Maybe
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Speaker 2: this happens no matter what. Like Peyton Manning threw 30
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Speaker 2: picks his rookie year.
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Speaker 3: He was fine afterwards.
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Speaker 5: John Elway set up under the guard his rookie year.
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Speaker 5: He rallied pretty well.
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Speaker 3: Some people are. Some people aren't.
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Speaker 4: And I think you have to have a mental fortitude
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Speaker 4: for it, knowing you're going to struggle early.
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Speaker 3: But those quarterbacks you just mentioned? They're all-timers.
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Speaker 5: They're all-timers or Hall of Famers. And also, they didn't
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Speaker 5: have a secondary quarterback that was that great. I mean,
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Speaker 5: Elway played with Steve DeBerg.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay?
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Speaker 5: I mean, Kirk Cousins, I'm not calling him great, but
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Speaker 5: he's a legit starting quarterback.
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Speaker 3: In this league. Totally agree. Who's been there. You also
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Speaker 3: have the other guys, like Dan Marino comes into the league.
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Speaker 3: Just throws the pig everywhere all the time from day one.
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Speaker 3: But to the Cousins thing... I mean, absolutely zero problems
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Speaker 3: with transition from college to pro. The Cousins thing... People
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Speaker 3: bring up examples of, like, Mahomes.
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Speaker 4: Well, he sat. Or Aaron Rodgers.
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Speaker 3: He sat. Well, he.
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Speaker 4: They got drafted to teams that were making the playoffs
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Speaker 4: that had good quarterback play already.
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Speaker 3: They didn't have to go in.
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Speaker 5: Mahomes sat because the quarterback that played was a good quarterback.
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers sat because Brett freaking Favre was in.
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Speaker 5: Front of him. And that's why Fernando Mendoza should sit.
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Speaker 5: Because he plays on a team with a good quarterback.
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Speaker 2: But, but, there's a but here. The teams were also
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Speaker 2: good with Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers. They were playoff teams.
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Speaker 3: Good point. The Raiders, even with Kirk Cousins, are not
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Speaker 3: a playoff team. Well, then why are they going out
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Speaker 3: to get Kirk Cousins? I think it's to have somebody
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Speaker 3: who could be a good mentor.
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Speaker 2: And I don't think that Kirk Cousins has the ego
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Speaker 2: of somebody that's going to be like, I'm not helping
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Speaker 2: the rookie.
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Speaker 3: I think that helps.
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Speaker 2: But to me, it's just a matter of if you're
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Speaker 2: drafting a quarterback that high, most of the time it's
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Speaker 2: because your team stinks.
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Speaker 4: You're just not very good. And in that case, I
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Speaker 4: would just tell them, Go out, play your game.
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Speaker 3: If you make a mistake, we'll learn from it.
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Speaker 2: We're trying to win ball games, but this is our
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Speaker 2: training right now for a year or two down the line.
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Speaker 3: But you're right.
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Speaker 2: They have the ability with Cousins to sit them down,
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Speaker 2: but I guess here's my question. Do you think Mendoza
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Speaker 2: is going to start at some point this year?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure he will. Yeah. When do you think
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Speaker 3: that will be? Well, they're not going anywhere. So, again,
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Speaker 3: you know, Brett, I don't know. They're not going to
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Speaker 3: the postseason. There's no delusions of grandeur. A month, six weeks,
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Speaker 3: eight weeks? I don't know. He'll feel it out, I'm sure,
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Speaker 3: as they go along. But the guy's going to play.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about starting. Like being named the
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Speaker 3: starter like week seven or something like that? That's completely
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Speaker 3: impossible to predict. But he will play this year.
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Speaker 2: The weird thing about Cousins is he literally did this
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Speaker 2: exact same thing the previous season. He started in Atlanta.
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Speaker 3: He was bad.
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Speaker 2: They went to Pennix. And my whole thing was like,
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Speaker 2: I know that Pennix got hurt, but do you think Pennix.
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Speaker 4: Could have maybe gotten more seasoning earlier?
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Speaker 2: Did it really help him all that much by waiting
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Speaker 2: eight weeks as opposed to starting game one?
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Speaker 4: That's my question.
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Speaker 3: If you're going to sit a guy, then you want
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Speaker 3: to sit him for a year. That makes way more
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Speaker 3: sense to me.
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Speaker 2: Regardless of circumstance, like we're going to draft him, he's
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Speaker 2: going to sit here and watch for a season.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 3: That makes sense. If you're going to sit him and
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Speaker 3: start him in week six, I don't get that at all. Okay.
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Speaker 3: So either start him or let him sit. Yes. Okay.
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Speaker 3: When we go back to Mahomes, you realize his first action,
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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, and by the way, the Chiefs traded up
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Speaker 3: to get him. Yeah. Out of tech. Yeah. They traded
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Speaker 3: up to 10 to get him. Vic, do you recall
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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes' first game? Yeah, it was in Denver at
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Speaker 3: the end of the season. And I know what you're
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Speaker 3: going to say again because we had Aqib Tlaib on
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Speaker 3: the radio show. Correct. It was week 17. They'd had
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Speaker 3: the playoffs secured. Fourth seed, they're locked up. Yeah. We're
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Speaker 3: going to chill Alex Smith today. He said, everything's already
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Speaker 3: wrapped up. We'll let the kid play. Week 17. And
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Speaker 3: what did Aqib Tlaib say? You asked him, you asked him, hey, Aqib,
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Speaker 3: what'd you see out of Patrick Mahomes last night? Because
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Speaker 3: it was like the next day. Nelly, I'm not sure
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Speaker 3: you can find that clip. We have people coming to
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Speaker 3: the program every day who probably have never heard what
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Speaker 3: Aqib Tlaib said. So when I see his ass in Atlanta,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to beat his ass. That's not what he said.
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Speaker 3: That's not what he said.
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Speaker 5: Our plan was to do what we do. You know
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Speaker 5: what we do.
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Speaker 3: That's who he did. Also not what he said. That's
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Speaker 3: not what he said.
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Speaker 5: Greatest soundbite of all time.
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Speaker 3: He said, I.
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Speaker 2: Saw enough from Mahomes to know that Alex Smith isn't
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Speaker 2: going to start anymore.
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Speaker 3: Something along those lines. What did you see out of Mahomes?
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Speaker 3: He goes, I saw enough to know that Alex Smith
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Speaker 3: is going to be a free agent. That's exactly what
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Speaker 3: he said. And so did it help him to sit?
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Speaker 3: And by the way, Alex Smith was playing good football.
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Speaker 3: He was a good quarterback before his leg exploded. But
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying is that You already had a good quarterback.
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Speaker 3: Did it benefit Mahomes to sit that entire season, get
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Speaker 3: one start at the end and then nothing?
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Speaker 4: It might have. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: It could have.
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Speaker 2: Or could Mahomes have had a couple of bad first
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Speaker 2: week one and two and then exploded for four touchdowns.
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Speaker 3: In week three? Maybe. Brett, I think you have to
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Speaker 3: know who you are as a football team. If Clint
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Speaker 3: Kubiak and Mark Davis know who they are as a
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Speaker 3: football team, then they would start Mendoza right away, I think,
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Speaker 3: and get him reps. Because they're not going anywhere with
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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins or without Kirk Cousins. They're not going to
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Speaker 3: the postseason. So if it was me and I was
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Speaker 3: really honest with myself about who I am as a
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Speaker 3: franchise at this moment in time, I would play Fernando
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Speaker 3: Mendoza and throw him to the wolves and learn on
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Speaker 3: the job. That's what I would do. Given the situation.
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Speaker 3: in the division. But I don't give a crap. I
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Speaker 3: don't like the Raiders. Whatever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is just philosophy towards what you want
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Speaker 2: in football. What do you think the best approach is?
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Speaker 3: There was never a doubt, though, that Bo Nix was
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Speaker 3: going to be the starter. There was doubt. No, there wasn't.
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Speaker 4: Only because Stidham thought he was battling for the job.
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Speaker 3: It was this exact same discussion. It was made up. No,
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Speaker 3: it wasn't. It was fake. It was a fake thing. God,
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Speaker 3: you're so dumb sometimes. God, you're obtuse. You're so obtuse.
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Speaker 5: Does this happen in Nebraska?
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Speaker 3: Does naivety just fall? Nobody in their right.
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Speaker 5: Mind thought Bo Nix was not going to be the
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Speaker 5: starter day one.
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Speaker 3: You're so obtuse.
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Speaker 2: I remember talking, is Jeff Laywald a dumb person?
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Speaker 3: Yes, he's an absolute idiot.
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Speaker 2: We talked to him every week, and he said this
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Speaker 2: over and over again that he didn't think it was
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Speaker 2: a good idea for him to start right away.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well, I don't care what Jeff thinks. We all
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Speaker 3: knew that Bo Nix was going to be the starter.
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Speaker 3: He was playing with Jarrett Stidham. This isn't Kirk Cousins. Sorry,
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Speaker 3: all due respect. It's not Alex Smith. Again, no offense.
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Speaker 3: He's not Alex Smith. Let's set a baseline here, Vic.
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Speaker 3: Nice hair. Let's set a baseline. At 8.14 in the
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Speaker 3: morning on this Friday, August 28th. Okay. Here's the baseline.
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Speaker 3: All right. You're dumb.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 3: Brett, you are dumb.
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Speaker 5: He's dumb. Everybody look at Mark Mosier right now and
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Speaker 5: what he's wearing. You're clearly off your rocker today.
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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you. You're dumb. Okay.
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Speaker 5: You're completely insane today.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 5: So I'm the only one with any degree of sanity
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Speaker 5: on this show this morning. And I feel a lot
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Speaker 5: of responsibility.
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Speaker 3: Oh, what a frigging burden Vic has today. Oh, my God.
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Speaker 3: The weight of the world's on Vic because he's doing
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Speaker 3: a radio show with two blooming idiots. Oh, my Lord. Dude.
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Speaker 3: Here's what I don't get.
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Speaker 5: This is for you, Moj, by the way. Nice hat.
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Speaker 3: He shipped. The mate was a mighty sailor.
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Speaker 2: Why was Jared Stidham disappointed when he lost the starting
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Speaker 2: job if he knew he wasn't winning the starting job?
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Speaker 3: Because it was all made up. It was just, yeah,
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Speaker 3: but you got to keep them. Ellison, you got to
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Speaker 3: keep them down a little bit. You know, don't just,
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Speaker 3: you just don't throw the job to the rookie. Sean
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Speaker 3: Payton is not about just throwing jobs to rookies. You
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Speaker 3: got to play the game. There was never a doubt
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Speaker 3: that Bo Nix was going to be the guy.
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Speaker 5: Every single person who understands football knows going into that
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Speaker 5: training camp, Bo Nix's rookie year, No matter where he
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Speaker 5: was on the depth chart, no matter how many reps
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Speaker 5: he took, everybody watching, understanding the game, knew he would
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Speaker 5: be the starting quarterback of the Denver Browns.
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Speaker 3: The end. I pined for it. Okay. If you want
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Speaker 3: to go back in time, get in your Doc Brown DeLorean.
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Speaker 3: Go back in time. I want to rewrite history. Go ahead.
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Speaker 3: You know what? I wish you could go back a couple,
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Speaker 3: three years ago and just listen to your own face
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Speaker 3: talk and listen to what we said because he was
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Speaker 3: going to be the starting quarterback.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 3: I would encourage it. Okay. If anybody's got any sort
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Speaker 3: of philosophy on time travel, take care of our boy here, please.
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Speaker 2: We have another keyword coming your way, a chance to
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Speaker 2: get you qualified for that Rock, Paper, Scissors contest to
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Speaker 2: get in the building in Kansas City for the opener.
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Speaker 3: Okay. Brad from Canada. Brad's in Ontario. Right now. Brad
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Speaker 3: is in Ontario right now. Is this America? His phone number. Brad.
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Speaker 3: We've got a text in here. Brad's from Canada. From Ontario.
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Speaker 3: He says, geez, take it easy on Brett. No, that's not.
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Speaker 3: That's fine. Sorry, I thought this was America. Brad, I
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Speaker 3: don't know where you're from in Ontario. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: But no, we don't take it easy on Brett when
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Speaker 3: he's that dumb. No, we don't. We point out the dumbness,
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Speaker 3: we jump on the dumbness, and we encourage him. Encourage
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Speaker 3: him to not be as dumb in the next segment.
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Speaker 3: That's how we roll. That's how we do it here.
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Speaker 3: Don't be dumb. That's how we teach.
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Speaker 5: Like Mosher, don't be dumb. And yet, every segment with
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Speaker 5: that hat, you continue to be dumb.
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Speaker 3: It's okay. Eventually, you won't be dumb. Yeah, but I
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Speaker 3: look good. 303-504-0925. Back after this. All right, got another
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Speaker 3: keyword coming in the next 20 minutes, so stay tuned
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Speaker 3: for that. Can I say one thing? It's Friday today,
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Speaker 3: so today we're a little bit loose. I don't like
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Speaker 3: the tone of the show already. Broncos preseason finale is
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Speaker 3: tonight against the Minnesota Vikings. We'll see. I mean, do
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Speaker 3: I talk to you guys tomorrow? No. All right. He
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Speaker 3: probably won't play in this. Okay.
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Speaker 6: He's not.
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Speaker 3: All right. Let's not go through everyone else. So Bo
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Speaker 3: is probably not going to play. He's not going to play.
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Speaker 3: I don't even know who Minnesota is going to play.
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Speaker 3: Who are they going to play? I don't know. Because
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Speaker 3: the guy who's playing the most in the preseason is
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Speaker 3: this kid named Max Brosmer. I don't even know who
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Speaker 3: that is. He played at Minnesota. He was a Golden Gopher,
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Speaker 3: but I don't even really know who this kid is.
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Speaker 3: Is he the kid that came to see you and
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Speaker 3: beat up the Buffs a couple years ago with those
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Speaker 3: gold helmets? I don't think so because Coach Sanford, Mike Sanford,
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Speaker 3: was the offensive.
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Speaker 5: Coordinator of that team many years ago when they came
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Speaker 5: up and put that number on him.
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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think he can go that far back.
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Speaker 3: Who knows? Okay. Ask him. So I don't know. I
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Speaker 3: just want to get through this game healthy, Brett. I
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Speaker 3: want the Broncos to be healthy through this game. Yes.
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Speaker 3: And let's go. Yeah, I'm watching hard knocks. Tuck Riley
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Speaker 3: Moss into a corner, bubble wrap him. Totally agree. Knock
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Speaker 3: on wood. I'm watching hard knocks.
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Speaker 5: And through last week's taping, they had two key players
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Speaker 5: go down with injury.
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Speaker 3: The Bobo one.
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Speaker 5: The Bobo ACL in a practice.
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Speaker 3: And then Bud Clark there.
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Speaker 5: Second round pick, he went down with a fractured ankle
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Speaker 5: in the preseason game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: And you're watching the pain on these kids' faces and
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Speaker 5: understand how much time and how much of an opportunity
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Speaker 5: is lost.
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Speaker 2: Well, that episode started with Bobo talking to his coach,
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Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, I need you to gear it up.
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Speaker 3: Cooper Cup's not at practice. I need you to turn
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Speaker 3: it on. Exactly.
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Speaker 4: And he goes, oh, I got you, coach.
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Speaker 3: I got you. And then goes down with the knee injury. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it sucks. And you know what?
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Speaker 5: When we watch those injuries from afar, as we watch
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Speaker 5: on television, and you see a person go down, You're like, oh,
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Speaker 5: it can't be that bad. But then when they're mic'd up,
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Speaker 5: and they go, did you hear what he was saying?
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Speaker 5: It felt like he was going to die.
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Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 2: I mean, what's... I'm sure it's that combined with the,
16:21
Speaker 2: my season's lost, you know it right away, how does
16:24
Speaker 2: this affect my career?
16:25
Speaker 3: The pain. Oh, I know.
16:26
Speaker 5: When Clark broke his ankle on hard knocks in the
16:30
Speaker 5: middle of the game, and he got caught, he got
16:33
Speaker 5: stepped on or something.
16:34
Speaker 3: Yeah. And... The second it happened, he goes, oh, it's broke.
16:38
Speaker 3: My blank is broke. It's broke. And everybody's turning. He
16:41
Speaker 3: knew right away. Yeah. It's broke. You ever broken something?
16:45
Speaker 3: A toe and a finger. You know right away. Yes.
16:49
Speaker 5: I remember both angles.
16:50
Speaker 3: You know right away. Yeah. It's broke. It's got to be.
16:52
Speaker 3: What year was it? 20. When the Avs lost to
16:56
Speaker 3: Minnesota in the first round, that sucked. And Barley gave
16:59
Speaker 3: up four one-goal leads in that game seven. Need a
17:03
Speaker 3: writer's score. Ah, just that killed me. But in that
17:05
Speaker 3: series in Game 3 in Minnesota, the Fs had a
17:07
Speaker 3: 2-0 lead. And that's when Matt Cook blew up Tyson Berry.
17:13
Speaker 3: So it's 1-1,000, 2-1,000, Cook blows up Berry. But he
17:16
Speaker 3: gets up and he goes to the bench. And as
17:18
Speaker 3: he goes to the door, he's like, it's blown up.
17:20
Speaker 3: I'm done. I mean, guys know, right? And so I
17:24
Speaker 3: just want to get through... I mean, there was no, Hey,
17:28
Speaker 3: we got to get it looked at. Hey, we need
17:30
Speaker 3: an MRI. It was, I know my leg is broken.
17:34
Speaker 3: I know my knee is blown. I, I, I know. Right.
17:38
Speaker 3: And so I just want to get through this thing. Healthy, calm,
17:42
Speaker 3: you know, get your work in. That's all good. And
17:43
Speaker 3: I'm sure that Peyton wants me to play better than
17:45
Speaker 3: they did last week against the Packers. Not a whole
17:48
Speaker 3: lot of jam and fight in that game. I get
17:50
Speaker 3: all of that, but health is the number one thing.
17:54
Speaker 2: Did you guys, um, Do you guys see what Shannon
17:56
Speaker 2: Sharp said about the Pro Bowl being X'd out?
18:00
Speaker 4: He was like, he's mad about it.
18:02
Speaker 3: Why?
18:04
Speaker 2: So he compared it to the NBA All-Star Game, and
18:07
Speaker 2: he goes, the NFL players, and you NFL players, that's
18:11
Speaker 2: responsible for this. That played the last decade, you ought
18:14
Speaker 2: to be embarrassed because that's something that's been going on
18:16
Speaker 2: before your parents were born, and you all ruined it,
18:18
Speaker 2: you ended it, so be proud of yourself because that's
18:21
Speaker 2: what you've done.
18:22
Speaker 3: He He really likes the Pro Bowl. He hates it.
18:25
Speaker 4: They didn't show effort.
18:26
Speaker 2: And can I defend the guys playing now? Am I
18:34
Speaker 2: allowed to do that in the face of Shannon Sharp,
18:36
Speaker 2: who is a Hall of Famer?
18:38
Speaker 3: Which is, I.
18:40
Speaker 2: Don't think anybody wants to risk getting hurt for a
18:42
Speaker 2: game that doesn't matter. It's the same thing you were
18:45
Speaker 2: just talking about with.
18:46
Speaker 4: The game tonight. It's the third preseason game.
18:48
Speaker 2: It is good prep for the season. But your big
18:51
Speaker 2: thing is like, nobody get hurt because this game doesn't matter.
18:54
Speaker 3: I don't disagree.
18:55
Speaker 5: Then why did Shannon and his ilk risk getting hurt?
18:59
Speaker 3: I just think it was different. I think it was different.
19:01
Speaker 3: I don't know. What was different?
19:03
Speaker 4: Money for one.
19:04
Speaker 3: What, what, what, what do you mean money?
19:07
Speaker 5: Relatively speaking there, you know, they were making the same
19:10
Speaker 5: money 20 years ago as they are today, relatively speaking.
19:13
Speaker 5: So what's different?
19:14
Speaker 3: Um, I don't know. I think relative to.
19:18
Speaker 2: Maybe as a society, we have been a lot different about, quote,
19:23
Speaker 2: unnecessary risks or something like that.
19:25
Speaker 5: I think you're spot on. Yeah, I think you're spot on.
19:28
Speaker 5: I think and this is where we're going to be
19:29
Speaker 5: called boomers. Here we go.
19:31
Speaker 3: Bring it on. All you boomers.
19:33
Speaker 5: But that's exactly what it is.
19:35
Speaker 3: Hey, man. Unnecessary risks. Okay, boom.
19:37
Speaker 2: I was the guy that was saying, as much as
19:39
Speaker 2: I love the Four Nations and the Olympics, that I
19:41
Speaker 2: hold my breath every time they go out there and play,
19:43
Speaker 2: because I'm like, if McKinnon gets blown up and his
19:47
Speaker 2: knee snaps in half.
19:48
Speaker 3: But those guys want to play. those... I understand. They're
19:51
Speaker 3: desperate to play those games.
19:52
Speaker 5: Why was the NBA All-Star game much more intense in
19:55
Speaker 5: the 80s and 90s than it is today?
19:58
Speaker 3: You know, Vic, those guys wanted to win. I don't know.
20:01
Speaker 3: What's the difference? They were competitors. They... I mean, they
20:04
Speaker 3: wanted to beat the other guys.
20:05
Speaker 5: I don't know. You can't say it was money because
20:07
Speaker 5: money's relative. They were making a lot of money then.
20:09
Speaker 3: It's not money. So it's the same argument. Yeah, guys today, though,
20:14
Speaker 3: guys today have been programmed to protect themselves. Guys today
20:19
Speaker 3: have been programmed to, you know, you've got to take,
20:23
Speaker 3: I mean, Peyton Watson is a perfect example of that.
20:28
Speaker 3: That's number one. Protect yourself so you can get the
20:30
Speaker 3: bag or whatever. That's what guys today have been programmed
20:34
Speaker 3: to do. I agree.
20:35
Speaker 5: That Peyton episode, that whole thing about the agent advising
20:38
Speaker 5: him and all that, I will contend to you that
20:40
Speaker 5: would not have happened 20, 30 years ago.
20:42
Speaker 3: No way.
20:43
Speaker 2: Well, can I just give you guys something from a
20:44
Speaker 2: load management standpoint? And I know I've mentioned this on
20:47
Speaker 2: the air before, but for those who have missed it,
20:49
Speaker 2: it's remarkable. Karl Malone played in the league for 19 years.
20:55
Speaker 2: Here's Karl Malone's games played Throughout those 19 years. 81, 82, 82, 80, 82, 82, 81, 82, 82, 82, 82, 82, 81, 49, 82, 81, 80, 81.
21:07
Speaker 2: He didn't miss a game. Like didn't miss a game.
21:17
Speaker 2: There's no load management. Even when they're playing at the
21:19
Speaker 2: end of the year, they're locked into seating. He still
21:21
Speaker 2: played like it was just different.
21:23
Speaker 3: I don't know.
21:23
Speaker 5: It's like anything else in life. Once one person and
21:26
Speaker 5: usually a star player starts a trend.
21:29
Speaker 3: Right? Once you start a trend, other people follow. And
21:32
Speaker 3: the trend has been, well, I got to take it easy.
21:34
Speaker 3: You know who started this trend? Do you know who
21:37
Speaker 3: started the load management trend, the take it easy trend?
21:40
Speaker 3: Who do you think it was? I'll give you guys
21:42
Speaker 3: a couple. LeBron. No?
21:44
Speaker 5: It was Greg Popovich and the Spurs.
21:45
Speaker 3: Exactly right. Nelly, come over here. You should be hosting
21:49
Speaker 3: the show. He's exactly right. Nelly, come get a kiss
21:52
Speaker 3: from Zach. Was it the Adler? Was it Duncan? Who
21:56
Speaker 3: was it? It was the coach. But who did he?
21:59
Speaker 3: I mean, all the guys. He sued his players. Manu, everybody.
22:02
Speaker 3: The coach. So everybody wants to blame the players. Don't
22:06
Speaker 3: blame the players. Usually it's somebody.
22:08
Speaker 5: Else that does this. Greg Popovich is the guy who
22:12
Speaker 5: started the sit-down trend. He would go to cities and
22:15
Speaker 5: not even play his guys.
22:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, now that you bring it up, I
22:18
Speaker 3: do remember that. He would go to cities on the
22:20
Speaker 3: second game of a back-to-back. All five starters sit. Yeah,
22:23
Speaker 3: I do. You know what, Vic? I do recall that.
22:26
Speaker 3: Now that you mention it, you're right. And so everybody
22:27
Speaker 3: blames the player now. Well, the players take notes and say, okay, well,
22:30
Speaker 3: it worked for the Spurs. They won a bunch of championships.
22:33
Speaker 3: Holy crap. We should be doing that. Don't blame the player.
22:37
Speaker 3: Blame the coach.
22:38
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, at the end of the day, it's
22:39
Speaker 6: just really an issue of Safety and keeping the players safe.
22:43
Speaker 3: Here we go.
22:44
Speaker 1: It's time for another Rock Paper Tickets keyword.
22:47
Speaker 3: Safety. He's doing good. I read somewhere where we moved
22:50
Speaker 3: him to safety, and I don't know who wrote the
22:52
Speaker 3: article or not. He's playing nickel. He's playing corner. Safety.
22:56
Speaker 1: Text it in now to 303-504-0925.
22:57
Speaker 2: There's been a tell, by the way, and I hate
23:02
Speaker 2: that I just found it. Now, with only one keyword
23:05
Speaker 2: left after this, by the way, the keyword is safety.
23:07
Speaker 2: So text that in your first and last.
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Speaker 5: Name to 303-504-0925.
23:11
Speaker 3: You're blowing it. When Nelly jumps in and.
23:14
Speaker 2: He does a, well, you know, he starts with a well,
23:18
Speaker 2: you know a keyword's coming. So safety in your first
23:21
Speaker 2: and last name to 303-504-0925. By the way, that's a song.
23:24
Speaker 2: Gets you a chance to get qualified for the Rock, Paper,
23:27
Speaker 2: Scissors tournament at Rooftop Social on Tuesday. And then if
23:29
Speaker 2: you win that tournament, You're heading out to KC with flights, hotel,
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Speaker 2: and tickets to see Denver take on KC on Monday
23:35
Speaker 2: night to open the year.
23:36
Speaker 3: Nelly, I just texted you something. Please bring that up.
23:39
Speaker 3: I don't know how to feel about this. This is
23:41
Speaker 3: how my brain is working on this Friday. You got it, Steven? Wait, Steven.
23:47
Speaker 3: Don't forget to make a wish. You got it?
23:49
Speaker 5: You can dance if you want to. You can leave
23:51
Speaker 5: your friends behind.
23:52
Speaker 3: Bring it up. I don't know how to feel about this.
23:58
Speaker 3: Because I like it and I hate it at the
23:59
Speaker 3: same time. I don't know what to do. I'm in
24:03
Speaker 3: a real frigging pickle here, Brett. What are you talking about? Yeah,
24:08
Speaker 3: come on. Let's go. Can you just spit it out? Well,
24:10
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for Steve to bring it up. And if
24:12
Speaker 3: he does, then you'll understand what I'm talking about. God,
24:15
Speaker 3: you're slow, Nelly.
24:16
Speaker 6: Moj, let's see. Maybe I'll come back in the next
24:19
Speaker 6: segment with your song. He wants me to play a
24:20
Speaker 6: song here.
24:21
Speaker 5: I'll play it later, man. Let's move on with the show.
24:23
Speaker 5: So just behind the curtain. Moj tried to get Nelly
24:27
Speaker 5: to play a song. Probably can't find the song. The
24:30
Speaker 5: entire show came to a stop. Yes, grinding halt. It
24:34
Speaker 5: didn't work, and now Mosher.
24:36
Speaker 3: I screwed it up. I screwed it up. Yeah, it's, well,
24:39
Speaker 3: Steve is slow. If Steve was faster, it would have worked.
24:41
Speaker 3: Don't you blame this on Steve.
24:42
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
24:43
Speaker 3: Steve, well, here's what you got to do next time
24:44
Speaker 3: he does that. No, just go suck on your flute.
24:46
Speaker 3: I mean, you're blowing it, man. Next time he does that,
24:48
Speaker 3: you just ignore him.
24:48
Speaker 5: That's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to blow
24:50
Speaker 5: a flute.
24:51
Speaker 3: Ignore him.
24:52
Speaker 5: Just ignore the song references.
24:54
Speaker 3: Steve kind of did. He did.
24:55
Speaker 5: We've had meetings about this.
24:56
Speaker 3: He did.
24:57
Speaker 5: No, I did, Vic. I followed instructions.
25:01
Speaker 3: He gave him the stiff arm. He gave him the
25:02
Speaker 3: old Heisman.
25:03
Speaker 5: It's a good song, though, Moe. Just save it for later.
25:06
Speaker 2: Going back to the, I mean, I guess more careful
25:10
Speaker 2: approach towards things. I remember when the pitch count stuff
25:13
Speaker 2: started in baseball. It was basically, I'm not even kidding.
25:16
Speaker 2: I think this is where it stemmed from. When I was,
25:20
Speaker 2: I don't know. eight, nine years old. It was mid
25:22
Speaker 2: to late nineties. They started doing that with kids in
25:26
Speaker 2: little league pitchers.
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Speaker 3: You're kidding.
25:28
Speaker 4: You pitched on this day. You can't pitch again until
25:30
Speaker 4: this day. And you can only throw this many pitches.
25:32
Speaker 3: What did that stem from?
25:34
Speaker 4: Because kids at like 10, 11 years old are having
25:36
Speaker 4: elbow surgeries.
25:38
Speaker 2: And they're snapping off curveballs. And coaches are like, you
25:40
Speaker 2: aren't throwing curveballs until you're 12.
25:41
Speaker 3: Years old or something. When I pitched as a kid.
25:44
Speaker 3: And then that just kept going.
25:46
Speaker 2: And they'd be like, if you did have an elbow injury, well,
25:47
Speaker 2: now you're at 100 pitch count in the MLB.
25:51
Speaker 3: When I pitched as a kid, they encouraged us not,
25:55
Speaker 3: please do not try to throw any breaking stuff. Please
25:57
Speaker 3: do not. So you pitched the same miles per hour
26:00
Speaker 3: as an 8-year-old as you do today? What are you
26:08
Speaker 3: smiling about? I've just about had it. I just want
26:10
Speaker 3: to see. No, no, no. I've just about had it.
26:13
Speaker 3: I'm at my wits. I am on the verge right
26:16
Speaker 3: this second. I'm just letting you know. I'm being completely
26:19
Speaker 3: honest and transparent. I'm on the verge. I'm on the edge.
26:24
Speaker 3: They encouraged us not to throw breaking stuff as a
26:27
Speaker 3: kid because your elbow would get jacked. And now that's.
26:30
Speaker 3: It's true. It's true. And that's obviously a long time
26:34
Speaker 3: ago before your time. But it's kind of always been
26:36
Speaker 3: that way. So, yeah, now, guys, look, the guys who
26:43
Speaker 3: are going to play tonight for the Broncos, they want
26:44
Speaker 3: to make the team. I mean, Red Murdoch is going
26:46
Speaker 3: to be out there busting his hump. I mean, this
26:49
Speaker 3: guy's playing good football, but he needs that last bit on.
26:53
Speaker 3: And everybody, even if you get cut on Sunday, you
26:56
Speaker 3: want some tape that shows, you know what, I can
26:58
Speaker 3: play in this league. Maybe not for this team right
27:01
Speaker 3: now because they're stacked, but I can play. And so
27:03
Speaker 3: that's what these guys are going to be playing for.
27:04
Speaker 5: Remember what we said also about this final preseason game.
27:08
Speaker 5: Beware of the veterans who play deep into these games.
27:11
Speaker 3: Yeah.
27:11
Speaker 5: They are borderline hot.
27:14
Speaker 3: Hey, Drew Sanders better be on the field.
27:16
Speaker 5: Hang on.
27:17
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, this guy's in trouble.
27:20
Speaker 4: Cortland's not going to play.
27:21
Speaker 3: No.
27:22
Speaker 4: And Waddle's not going to play.
27:23
Speaker 2: At least late into the game. I don't know if
27:24
Speaker 2: they're going to play early. Late in the game, they're playing.
27:27
Speaker 2: And Pat Bryant's not going to play late in the game.
27:30
Speaker 4: Is Troy Franklin?
27:31
Speaker 3: Yes. Is Marvin Mims? If he's going to play, yes.
27:36
Speaker 3: I wouldn't play Marvin Mims. Yeah, it's hurt. Troy Franklin's
27:38
Speaker 3: going to play football. But is Troy Franklin going to
27:41
Speaker 3: play late? Yes. Not necessarily. I'm just curious if you
27:44
Speaker 3: think he will or not. We'll see. I bet he
27:45
Speaker 3: wants to. His training camp and his preseason has been
27:50
Speaker 3: sort of meh.
27:51
Speaker 4: Lakey told us yesterday, if there's one guy who's losing
27:53
Speaker 4: reps because of Jalen Waddell.
27:55
Speaker 3: Troy Franklin. That's the guy.
27:58
Speaker 4: Just quickly here.
27:58
Speaker 2: Remember we were talking about number one quarterbacks and if
28:01
Speaker 2: you play them right away or not or blah, blah, blah.
28:03
Speaker 4: Does it ruin their confidence? Does it do this and that?
28:05
Speaker 4: Let me just go through a few. You tell me
28:07
Speaker 4: if it did this or not.
28:09
Speaker 3: Just recently. Caleb Williams. Doesn't seem so.
28:11
Speaker 5: No, he had to play.
28:12
Speaker 3: Bryce Young.
28:14
Speaker 5: You know, he made the playoffs last year. There was
28:17
Speaker 5: a time where Bryce Young looked like he couldn't play.
28:20
Speaker 5: Couldn't play day.
28:20
Speaker 3: They benched him. He was done. Yeah.
28:22
Speaker 5: He rallied last year.
28:24
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence. That's a success story. Joe Burrow? Yeah.
28:31
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray?
28:32
Speaker 3: I don't think he could play.
28:35
Speaker 4: That's the thing.
28:35
Speaker 3: I just don't think he's good. Baker.
28:39
Speaker 5: Really interesting he was subject to the whole cleveland thing
28:43
Speaker 5: but he made he made the playoffs yeah i know
28:45
Speaker 5: but sometimes you fall into a franchise where nothing seems.
28:49
Speaker 3: To work yeah here's some other ones just real quick
28:53
Speaker 3: but he i recall you remember how bad the browns
28:57
Speaker 3: were and it was bud what it was a great
28:59
Speaker 3: promotion Budweiser or Bud Light at the time, remember, they
29:05
Speaker 3: had all of those coolers around Cleveland, right? And they
29:09
Speaker 3: were locked. You recall that? Stocked with booze or beers.
29:14
Speaker 4: He unlocked it by winning.
29:15
Speaker 3: He won a game. All of a sudden, they set
29:18
Speaker 3: the magic code and all the coolers unlocked for free beer.
29:21
Speaker 3: That was a brilliant thing, but he did that.
29:24
Speaker 4: I'll just go back to 2000 real quick.
29:26
Speaker 3: Golf. What's the question again?
29:29
Speaker 2: Just guys who are number one overall picks that started
29:31
Speaker 2: right away that worked or didn't work.
29:33
Speaker 3: Goff has had a good career, yes. Jameis. Jameis played
29:37
Speaker 3: a lot of football. Yeah, yeah. And by the way,
29:39
Speaker 3: I like Jameis as a dude. He didn't become what
29:41
Speaker 3: I think he and others hoped he'd become. I don't
29:44
Speaker 3: think that was from like starting him right away, though.
29:47
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
29:47
Speaker 5: Are you saying did it ruin his career by starting
29:49
Speaker 5: him right away?
29:49
Speaker 3: I don't think it did.
29:50
Speaker 2: I just think Jameis was a guy who was going
29:52
Speaker 2: to throw 30 picks no matter what. Then it's Andrew Luck.
29:55
Speaker 3: Stud. Cam Newton. Stud. Sam Bradford. Not stud. Not good. Stafford. Stud.
30:02
Speaker 3: Then Jamarcus Russell. Yuck. Not stud. Alex Smith. Pretty good player. Eli. Yep.
30:09
Speaker 3: Carson Palmer. David Carr. Michael Vick. David Carr's an interesting one.
30:14
Speaker 2: That one might be the best case. And for him,
30:18
Speaker 2: he almost got ruined because they couldn't protect him. And
30:20
Speaker 2: that's a different thing.
30:21
Speaker 3: You're talking about just number one overall. Yes, those are
30:24
Speaker 3: all number ones. Because those guys typically start. David Carr
30:26
Speaker 3: had some very good games. Did he?
30:32
Speaker 2: All I remember David Carr was he just got blown
30:34
Speaker 2: up every time he dropped back to bat.
30:36
Speaker 3: Was he not an MVP candidate before his leg exploded
30:38
Speaker 3: with the Raiders?
30:39
Speaker 4: Derek Carr is what you're thinking.
30:40
Speaker 3: Oh, Derek Carr. Yeah. David was the Houston. Oh, David
30:42
Speaker 3: was the Houston. He got dead. Yes. I blew it. Sorry.
30:44
Speaker 3: Damn it. Guy Liner. Guy Liner was an MVP candidate. Oh,
30:48
Speaker 3: Derek Carr was good. Good player. David really was. No,
30:51
Speaker 3: David in Houston, dude, he got destroyed every single week.
30:54
Speaker 3: He was like Cutler in Chicago. They couldn't protect him,
30:57
Speaker 3: and he got blowed up.
30:59
Speaker 2: Listen to this for a second. David Carr was sacked
31:04
Speaker 2: 76 times his rookie year.
31:05
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
31:05
Speaker 2: 68 times his fourth year in the league.
31:08
Speaker 3: Ghosts. Goodness gracious.
31:10
Speaker 5: I mean, again, I think the best example of not
31:13
Speaker 5: forcing a quarterback through a bad team in a bad
31:16
Speaker 5: season is the kid who won the Super Bowl last year.
31:22
Speaker 3: Yeah. That argument is like, is that because... He was
31:25
Speaker 3: seeing ghosts as a member of the Jets. Team you're
31:30
Speaker 3: drafted to matters too, man. God, that matters.
31:32
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31:39
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31:41
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31:50
Speaker 3: 35 years old. The United States Attorney's Office in the
31:55
Speaker 3: District of Oregon announced this week that two men were
31:57
Speaker 3: arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud... One
32:01
Speaker 3: of the men posed as a player for the San
32:03
Speaker 3: Francisco 49ers and ran a scheme that defrauded at least
32:06
Speaker 3: 26 women out of more than $ 1. 3 million.
32:11
Speaker 5: So this is a catfish scheme, essentially.
32:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, he met most of his women on dating apps,
32:20
Speaker 3: used several names, John Love, Dajon Love, Avrilito Love. And
32:25
Speaker 3: then got them to do what? How does he make $ 1. 6
32:28
Speaker 3: or $ 1. 3 million? He's got pictures of himself in 49ers
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Speaker 3: gear standing next to Ferraris and stuff. The schemer line
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Speaker 3: loves creation of fictitious personas and display of lavish lifestyle,
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Speaker 3: which Love presented to his victims both in person and
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Speaker 3: on social media website. He convinced many of them they
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Speaker 3: were in sincere romantic relationships with Love.
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Speaker 5: So how did he make the $ 1.
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Speaker 3: 3 million? Give me some money. I'll invest it for you.
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Speaker 5: So he asked these women via catfishing methods, give me money.
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Speaker 3: I'm a player in the NFL. I will invest that money. Listen,
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Speaker 3: are these people stupid? If they didn't have money, he
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Speaker 3: would urge them to take out loans. How do you?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, man. How does so many people get
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Speaker 3: got with this stuff? I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Like that whole TV show Catfish about the 65-year-old woman
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Speaker 2: who lives at the house by herself that pretends to
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Speaker 2: be some young lady. How many stories do you have
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Speaker 2: to hear of this before you're like, I'm not communicating
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Speaker 2: with people online unless I see your face.
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Speaker 4: I need to see your face, please.
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Speaker 3: When I read the article, I'm like, no way. What
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Speaker 3: thing to communicate? But the guy wanted to send money.
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Speaker 3: Most of those episodes had them sending money.
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Speaker 4: To the person.
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Speaker 3: You want some money? The guy was pretty convincing. He
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Speaker 3: had like his 49ers gear on, a real 49ers helmet.
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Speaker 3: Why would I give you money? I don't care. I
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Speaker 3: don't know. Hey, I love you. Send me money. Hey, oh,
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Speaker 3: by the way, did you guys see?
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Speaker 2: So Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Jordan Hudson, Kansas City Chiefs
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Speaker 2: linebacker Wesley Byzant, Chiefs wide receiver Omari Evans are among
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Speaker 2: 41 players listed on this restraining order out of Dallas.
34:10
Speaker 2: And a Dallas judge has signed an order yesterday that
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Speaker 2: prohibits the NCAA, the SEC, and Greg Sankey from stopping
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Speaker 2: athletes from coming back to college.
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Speaker 3: Now, I don't know what this means. Oh, boy. Can
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Speaker 3: I ask.
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Speaker 4: Can I ask a real question here?
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Speaker 2: Does the law and a judge have the final say
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Speaker 2: over what the SEC wants out of its conference?
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Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that question.
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Speaker 2: So the judge says as long as they would have
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Speaker 2: been eligible to continue playing college sports in the following semester,
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Speaker 2: if they had a fifth year of eligibility, they are
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Speaker 2: eligible today.
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Speaker 3: That's what his ruling said. But.
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Speaker 2: If you're a conference, can't you just say, I don't
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Speaker 2: have to take this guy in?
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Speaker 3: How about this?
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Speaker 2: If I wanted to play for Texas baseball right now
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Speaker 2: or whatever, and I just found a judge that said,
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Speaker 2: you have to make him play for Texas baseball, couldn't
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Speaker 2: Texas be like, but it's our choice. It's our choice
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Speaker 2: whether we want him here or not. There's no judge
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Speaker 2: that says you have to be.
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Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin wants the player. And the judge says he
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Speaker 3: can have the player. He's going to get the player.
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Speaker 2: Well, the SEC is now talking about if they can,
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Speaker 2: and I don't know if this is directly towards Lane Kiffin,
35:28
Speaker 2: but they said if you bring those guys on your roster,
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Speaker 2: you will be banned from postseason play. So no SEC championship.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. This is so weird.
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Speaker 5: Until another judge chimes in and says.
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Speaker 3: Well, no, you got a lot of them. Now you're
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Speaker 3: a good kid. Good kid.
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Speaker 5: No, I don't know the answer. Hey, Michael Lorenzen, by
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Speaker 5: the way. Michael Lorenzen, who was previously with the Rockies.
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Speaker 3: He was let go.
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Speaker 5: Man, that season didn't work for him. Signed by the
35:53
Speaker 5: Toronto Blue Jays to help shore up their bullpen.
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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking to myself, why?
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Speaker 5: Blue Jays are in last place in their division.
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Speaker 4: So find a guy, maybe you can stick around on
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Speaker 4: the cheap. I don't know.
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Speaker 5: Baseball's so crazy with that. Well, dude, we've seen.
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Speaker 2: But we've seen guys, especially here, guys who have worked
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Speaker 2: elsewhere that don't work here or don't work here and
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Speaker 2: work elsewhere. I mean, Wade Davis was a prime example, right?
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Speaker 2: He was shut like lockdown in Casey comes over here.
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Speaker 3: Not so much.
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Speaker 2: Um, You guys want to hear some of the wildest
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Speaker 2: stats heading into this NFL season? Did you know the Bears,
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Speaker 2: in 106 seasons in the NFL, have never had anybody
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Speaker 2: throw for over 4,000 yards in a season?
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Speaker 3: You're kidding.
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Speaker 5: McMahon wasn't a– he didn't have a productive– A couple seasons.
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Speaker 5: He was good.
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Speaker 3: He won games, but the production wasn't there. That was
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Speaker 3: all Walter Payton. It was Payton. It was Willie Galt.
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Speaker 3: It was all those guys.
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Speaker 5: So who was the most productive Bears quarterback of all time?
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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams last year. Caleb Williams season? Last year, and
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Speaker 3: he still didn't get to 4,000 yards. Vince Evans.
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Speaker 5: I don't know how productive he was.
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Speaker 3: No, he wasn't. Do you think that gets broken this year?
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Speaker 3: Does Caleb throw for four grand?
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Speaker 5: If anybody's going to do it, it's Ben Johnson.
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Speaker 3: You would think. God, when I lived in Chicago, it's
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Speaker 3: when Jim Harbaugh was young. You know who their quarterback
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Speaker 3: was as well? Mike Tomczak. Remember Mike Tomczak?
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Speaker 5: Remember when Jim Harbaugh and Tomczak would wear the black
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Speaker 5: cleats to go with the dark unis?
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Speaker 2: Let me just give you a couple more real quick.
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Speaker 2: It's not heading into the season, but just a couple.
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Speaker 2: The Panthers have never recorded back-to-back winning seasons in franchise history.
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Speaker 2: And they won't this year either because they went 8-9
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Speaker 2: last year. So they've never done that. Tom Brady never
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Speaker 2: played in a game his entire career where he was
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Speaker 2: mathematically eliminated from the playoffs going into the game.
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Speaker 3: Are you serious? That is crazy. That is stunning. That's amazing.
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Speaker 2: Last one. There's more on here, but I'll just stop here.
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Speaker 2: During the entire 2014 regular season, the Kansas City Chiefs
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Speaker 2: did not throw a single touchdown to a wide receiver.
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Speaker 3: Wait, the entire preseason?
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Speaker 2: No, the entire regular season in 2014, the Chiefs did
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Speaker 2: not throw a touchdown to a wide receiver.
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Speaker 3: That's impossible. Well, the running backs must have... Tight ends
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Speaker 3: and running backs?
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Speaker 2: Here's where the touchdowns came from. Alex Smith was the quarterback.
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Speaker 2: He had 18 touchdowns that year. Five went to Jamal Charles.
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Speaker 2: Five to Travis Kelsey. Four to Anthony Fasano.
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Speaker 3: Tight end.
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Speaker 2: Two to Joe McKnight. One to Anthony Sherman, their fullback,
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Speaker 2: and one to Niall Davis, another running back.
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Speaker 3: So Alex Smith did not hit a wide out for
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Speaker 3: a touch all year. The entire season. That seems impossible.
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Speaker 2: By the way, the receivers on that team were Dwayne Bowe,
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Speaker 2: DeAnthony Thomas.
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Speaker 4: Remember him out of Oregon? He was a player at Oregon.
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Speaker 3: Albert Wilson, Donny Avery, Jason Avant. Yeah, not a single touchdown.
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Speaker 5: Here's an easy trivia question for you guys.
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Speaker 3: Name the only two quarterbacks....
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Speaker 5: To play their final games ever as Super Bowl champions.
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Speaker 3: Well, one is Peyton Manning. And John Elway. And they
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Speaker 3: both played for the Denver Broncos.
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Speaker 5: Think about that. Hall of Fame quarterbacks to win their
39:26
Speaker 5: final games in the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 3: Right off in the sunset.
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Speaker 5: Right off into the Hall of Fame. And they both
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Speaker 5: played for the Denver Broncos.
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Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, how do you guys feel about
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Speaker 3: bowl games? Too many bowl games? Not enough bowl games?
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Speaker 3: I'm unbothered by bowl games.
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Speaker 5: The Pop-Tart Bowl and all that drama that came with it,
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Speaker 5: But it.
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Speaker 3: Doesn't bother me. I don't have to watch it. Jumping
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Speaker 3: in the toaster and then coming out through the thing?
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Speaker 3: I think it's kind of cool.
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Speaker 5: I think if they aligned these bowl games with sort
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Speaker 5: of the road to the championship, if these bowl games
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Speaker 5: became those games, then they'd have some semblance of order.
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Speaker 3: Now there's too many bowl games.
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Speaker 5: Why don't they make those bowl games, the non-traditional bowl games,
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Speaker 5: the first round of the playoff run?
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Speaker 4: Well, they've been doing. Well, they're getting towards doing that.
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Speaker 3: Are you ready? After a nearly decade-long hiatus, the SDCCU
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Speaker 3: Poinsettia Bowl is back. Poinsettia Bowl. I remember that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah!
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Speaker 3: So it'll feature a revamped Pac-12 team. Or should we
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Speaker 3: call it just Pac-State? Pac-State, yeah. Because they're all state colleges, right?
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Speaker 3: Or whatever they are. Against a team from either the ACC,
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Speaker 3: Big 12, or Big 10. It's going to be played
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Speaker 3: at San Diego's Snapdragon Stadium on December 23rd. One more
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Speaker 3: on the way out, Nellie. You got one?
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Speaker 6: Oh, by the way, yesterday, the Braves beat the Dodgers,
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Speaker 6: and final score was 1-0.
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Speaker 5: Check this out.
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Speaker 6: Their only run was a leadoff homer, and they won 1-0.
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Speaker 6: That hasn't happened for the Braves. Since September 2nd, 1889.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Back then, they were the Boston Bean Eaters. Or Bean Eaters,
41:14
Speaker 6: excuse me. Beets, Beans, Battlestar Galactica. And they beat the
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Speaker 6: Indiana Hoosiers.
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Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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Speaker 5: And then also.
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Speaker 3: Wait, was Jack Glasscock in that game? He may have been.
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Speaker 6: I'll have to look into that for you. But also,
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Speaker 6: Chris Sale, he had himself a heck of a night.
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Speaker 6: He struck out 11, pitched a complete game shutout. Here's
41:31
Speaker 6: a little snippet.
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Speaker 3: He hit 100, too. Exactly.
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Speaker 5: He hit 100, and here's him being asked about that
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Speaker 5: in the postgame.
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Speaker 3: You threw a pitch over 100 miles per hour for
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Speaker 3: the first time in eight years.
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Speaker 5: How?
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Speaker 4: With my arm.
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Speaker 3: I love that. Factual.
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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, every day at 845, the qualifier
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Speaker 2: for this hour was Luke Schmidt.
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Speaker 3: Congratulations, Luke. We have one more qualifier in the 9
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Speaker 3: o'clock hour.
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Speaker 4: Stick around.