Latest / CALL ME MISTRESS / PET PLAY! PUP TIME ANYTIME? RUBY RED AND DOBERMAN
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- 0:00Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Mistress Mia's
- 0:02Dungeon. I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia,
- 0:05and I have today with me Ruby Red and her Doberman, and we're
- 0:11going to discuss pet play and the dynamic they share together.
- 0:15So welcome guys. How are you today?
- 0:18Fantastic, I'm. Doing pretty good.
- 0:21You know, Doberman, you have such a nice voice.
- 0:23Thank you. You do.
- 0:25You do. I love your voice.
- 0:26That's sweet. Tell us, how did you all meet?
- 0:30So we met through Discord. There was, it was a apparently a
- 0:35prime primary primarily like Fendom, which is financial
- 0:39domination for those of you who don't know like base.
- 0:43And I was labeled because I've tried with other domes and
- 0:48trying other dynamics and they just didn't work out with some
- 0:52personal shit and all that. And it just didn't work out.
- 0:54And throughout the server, I was labeled, quote, a danger to
- 0:58domes and Miss Ruby, I took a break from it, came back, and
- 1:04she was there answering any questions, just being completely
- 1:08friendly, you know, kind of making sure that I just don't
- 1:11leave the kink scene forever. And I kind of asked her like,
- 1:15hey, like, would you be OK to take me in as you're submissive
- 1:19or under consideration? Literally the night that she
- 1:22said that to me, I told her I'm like, I was wondering when you
- 1:25were going to fucking ask me that.
- 1:27How nice? Yeah, how nice is that?
- 1:30It's fucking awesome. I I definitely can't go back to
- 1:34vanilla. Fuck vanilla.
- 1:37Right. It's I mean if y'all, if those
- 1:40of you who are listening, if you like vanilla, that's you.
- 1:43But for me it's not it anymore. People who listen to this show
- 1:47are not into vanilla. We have we have about 80% that
- 1:54are men and then we have 5 that are non binary and then the rest
- 1:59are maybe 8 to 10% women of that.
- 2:02So you know, and there's a lot of older listeners that go from,
- 2:06you know, 35 to 60, which is, you know, pretty interesting,
- 2:10honestly really cool. But you know, after the age of
- 2:1240 and you're young, how old are?
- 2:14You I'm 21 years old. Oh, you're such a baby.
- 2:17See. But, you know, it's interesting
- 2:19because after you reach 40, you're kind of like, I don't
- 2:21give a fuck anymore. So a lot of people, you know, a
- 2:24lot of our, our people that come to the dungeon, they're like, I
- 2:27don't give a fuck. We're going to do this, right?
- 2:29So what made you think, hey, I'm going to be a puppy, you know,
- 2:32call me fucking Doberman? So it originally was just an
- 2:39extreme total power exchange dynamic.
- 2:42And I had I had a limit for a little bit being called puppy
- 2:47because of a previous dummy that caused some trauma.
- 2:51And then I started feeling more and more comfortable with Miss
- 2:55Ruby. And at that point I told her,
- 2:58I'm like, you know, can you try it just to see how it feels?
- 3:02And she said, you know, you're my puppy.
- 3:05And instantly all that trauma that was there just instantly
- 3:09resolved. And I'm like, OK, I'm definitely
- 3:12a puppy. And that's kind of how I did it.
- 3:14I'd started researching more researching this like the reason
- 3:19why puppy play is so like liked upon people and yeah.
- 3:25So what do you get from it? I get the satisfaction that one
- 3:31mess can show me off however the fuck she pleases, whether it be
- 3:35shirtless, you know, clothes. I dress more tactical, so that's
- 3:39actually partial why I got my name and I just enjoy the
- 3:46feeling that it gives her of just complete power.
- 3:49Having ownership over me, it's fulfilling, gives me a purpose.
- 3:55That's a great answer. I love that.
- 3:57So Ruby, what do you get from this?
- 4:00I love this. So, you know, when I first came
- 4:04into the scene, I, I had known about pets, you know, like I
- 4:11understood it. I got the dynamic like I get it,
- 4:14but I told myself, you know, like it's, it's not my thing.
- 4:17Like I don't, I don't want to deal with pets.
- 4:19I don't, I don't want to do anything with pets.
- 4:22It's it just seems like too, too soft for me.
- 4:26And, you know, everyone that I seem to attract turns out to be
- 4:34a puppy. Or in Aaron's case, as you know,
- 4:38he's my little Garfield. But all of the submissives that
- 4:42tend to stick around with me are fucking puppies.
- 4:47So he's a Kitty? Cat.
- 4:48Yes, Aaron's a cat. Oh my God, that's so appropriate
- 4:51for him. I know this, she says.
- 4:55He's he's my orange cat. How much that makes?
- 4:59So much sense. It does make so much sense.
- 5:01He's like big and just cuddly with that long hair.
- 5:06And then we'll have this random strands of just batshit crazy.
- 5:09I'm like, yes, yes, Oh my goodness, thank God he doesn't
- 5:13have claws. But, you know, for me, it just
- 5:19kind of became like, OK, well, you know, I keep attracting this
- 5:23certain type of submissive. Like, it doesn't matter what I
- 5:26do, what I change, I keep bringing it in like a magnet.
- 5:31So I'm like, OK, there's got to be something going on here.
- 5:34So I finally just was like, all right, let's just do this.
- 5:39So I interacted with my first puppy, submissive, which was at
- 5:43Fedcon in 2023. I had a lot of fun with him.
- 5:48He was super sweet. We're friends, but we don't have
- 5:50like a standing dynamic. He still messages me sometimes.
- 5:53Super sweet guy. And, you know, while I can still
- 5:59be, you know, twisted, sadistic, mentally torturing Ruby, I can
- 6:07still do that with a puppy who is sitting there whimpering and
- 6:13shaking and shivering under my touch.
- 6:16And it's this, it's this like combination of two things
- 6:20together. And it gives me, like Doberman
- 6:24said, this feeling of satisfaction, like, Oh my God,
- 6:28this is this is awesome. And the fact that they're non
- 6:31verbal when they're in that pub space where they can only make
- 6:34noise because they can't think enough to talk.
- 6:38Yes, please give me more like, I don't want you to talk.
- 6:43I want you to whine and whimper. And that's what she does.
- 6:49And any puppy that I interact with does.
- 6:51And Aaron just sits there and goes.
- 6:56Like a cat. Thank God we don't have to call
- 6:59PETA on you, you know. She treats her pets well.
- 7:06OK. Well, that, that's good to know.
- 7:08Maybe not to PETA standard, but we all know about them.
- 7:13Tick tock sounds like Don't worry about him.
- 7:16He gets fed once a week and outside once a day.
- 7:20Don't worry about him. Wow, that is awesome.
- 7:26That's awesome. So in this dynamic, do you find
- 7:30yourself you you've been in the harness like last?
- 7:33Night. Yes, and it, it stimulates this
- 7:36level of comfort for you security.
- 7:39That's good. Have you always found yourself
- 7:41to be submissive? No, actually for shit roughly a
- 7:49little bit under 10 years, I've I was a dominant.
- 7:52I was yeah, yeah, drama. But yeah, I was, I was a
- 8:00dominant for a long fucking time and dealing with shit loads of
- 8:05different people. You know, I was a professional
- 8:09fuck, I should have been. I would have made money.
- 8:14But I thought like, I just started feeling like an
- 8:18emptiness that I'd never felt. And then I was like, oh, maybe
- 8:23I'm just not, you know, this enough or that and just kept on
- 8:26searching until I found out, oh, I'm a switch.
- 8:29I want to submit. And then I found Discord and fat
- 8:34life and everything and rest is history.
- 8:38Yeah, I haven't really explored much on Discord, but you've had
- 8:41other interactions with other people.
- 8:43Yeah. Discord.
- 8:45Discord is primarily, it seemed that it's mostly financial
- 8:49stuff, financial domination and everything there is femdom.
- 8:54That's the part that I'm pretty associated with.
- 8:58And some of them, a good majority of them know what
- 9:02they're doing. But there are some of those that
- 9:04you really have to make sure that you are vetting, You're
- 9:08asking questions about, you know, the dominant or the
- 9:11submissive because people can claim to be one thing whenever
- 9:14they know nothing about it. And that can just cause issues,
- 9:17pain and just trauma. Discord is basically a vet life
- 9:22or only online? Yes, OK, so we need.
- 9:27The vetting process. When you get in that mindset of,
- 9:31of being a dog, you know, do you feel like it's, it's just
- 9:37becomes you? Is it just you know, is it
- 9:40naturally like that submissive feeling automatically?
- 9:43Or so I don't whenever I get into puppy like pups face, it's
- 9:48not entirely that I just like instantly drop down to all
- 9:51fours. I'm still, you know, bipedal.
- 9:54Which big word by the way? Absolutely.
- 9:59And it's more of this fuzz that just fills my head similar to a
- 10:06buzz. But it's really hard to explain
- 10:10unless you've been in it and being a dollar man, I am a
- 10:16little bit traumatic. A little bit so.
- 10:20I've known you for like 24 hours, yeah.
- 10:26Sure question. I'm a submissive, but I've
- 10:29switched before, but I understand submission.
- 10:32I'm submissive to me and so I get The Wanted to give somebody
- 10:34power, right, which is what you're describing.
- 10:37I understand exactly what you're describing.
- 10:39Well I'm trying to figure out is where the dog mask comes into
- 10:43it. Does it is it adds something to
- 10:45it so. The pup mask, the pup hood, it,
- 10:50it adds an element of cuteness as well as it really helps me
- 10:55get much, much, much deeper into subspace and pet space.
- 11:01It would be similar to somebody, you know, going into subspace a
- 11:05little bit just from, you know, degradation or praise and then
- 11:09the added bondage that really just catapults them straight
- 11:14into past the stratosphere into just super deep subspace.
- 11:18So. Charles, you remember that first
- 11:21blogging session you ever had with me?
- 11:24Probably that we've had a few so.
- 11:25It was the first one you ever had and I had you up on the box.
- 11:31OK, You remember OK when. I went to subspace for almost.
- 11:34Yeah, so you remember how you when as I was flogging you, I
- 11:38started hitting you harder and harder and harder, and then I
- 11:42kept you toeing that line between subspace and not.
- 11:45So the pup head to Doberman is basically the equivalent of
- 11:50toeing that line. I can put her into pub space
- 11:55mentally where she kind of like shakes herself and like waddles
- 11:59around and follows me like that. But she's still very much in her
- 12:06human mindset. She can still talk, she can
- 12:08still do things, you know, like a human would.
- 12:11But when she puts on that hood, if she's toeing that line, it's
- 12:16essentially the thing that pushes her over.
- 12:18Like if I were to dig my nails into your into your skin, OK.
- 12:22It's like that one little extra thing.
- 12:24It's the. One thing that's like final.
- 12:26Push, yeah. And I get that to a point.
- 12:31I just don't understand the actual I get part of this like
- 12:35like when someone owns a pup they're like caring for.
- 12:39It Yeah. You love the Master, you take
- 12:43out wags when they come in and you're happy.
- 12:45I get this because I kind of have similar feelings to a lady
- 12:48over here. Well, I get that part.
- 12:51I just can't quite figure out that the Kitty cats.
- 12:55So it's OK. So basically the the best way I
- 12:59have come to describe it is just like your submission toward Mia.
- 13:04You get happy, you're happy to see her, you're happy to do
- 13:07things for her. You know, whatever she tells you
- 13:09to do, you're going to do it. But you're still human and
- 13:12you're still, you know, you're still in this like human
- 13:15mindset. Pet play is essentially the same
- 13:19thing, except you're more likely to go non verbal.
- 13:22You're more likely to rely more on your ID, your body.
- 13:29Language you can let go. You can let go.
- 13:31You don't have to keep that like human aspect to yourself.
- 13:36Like you can still walk around on your hand, like on your feet.
- 13:39You don't have to crawl on the ground or anything.
- 13:40Some people do go to that extent.
- 13:42I've seen some of that. Some people do go that far.
- 13:45And you know, that's, that's OK if that's how far you go.
- 13:48But for me, I kind of like the more humanoid pets.
- 13:53I don't go that far. I'm not saying I wouldn't, but I
- 13:59haven't. I haven't had someone who would.
- 14:02OK, OK, it's making more sense. This is also like just regular
- 14:06slavery because some people sleep in chains and aren't
- 14:09allowed to talk so. It's just different.
- 14:11Dynamics. It's a different dynamic, same
- 14:14same bass, different name, OK. And let the puppy play where
- 14:17they like they have like the fake feet and they can't speak
- 14:20at all because but that that kind of forces you in that area.
- 14:23Like if I was forced to sleep in a box with plugs in both ends,
- 14:28is the same shit that's going on the same?
- 14:31Shit, different name different. Little tweaks, yeah, OK.
- 14:33Those. Are future plans.
- 14:35I mean, he should throw that out there.
- 14:37Future plans? I mean, I I wouldn't mind a cage
- 14:40see but I. Get the change.
- 14:43I understand the change, I really do, yeah.
- 14:46And it just, I mean, it really just depends on the submissive.
- 14:50Like, you know, I've talked about in my past where I was
- 14:55submissive, I was, I was a cat, but I wasn't a full on like pet
- 15:01cat. I was what's considered an echo,
- 15:04which is a humanoid cat. So I just had the ears and maybe
- 15:08like finger gloves. OK.
- 15:11Yeah, that's that's actually. Kind.
- 15:13Of hit on the head. That's exactly what I am.
- 15:15Except the puppy. Yeah.
- 15:17So dog girl, yeah. Pretty much it's the.
- 15:20Same thing, just different levels, yeah.
- 15:22Exactly love. Girl or bitch, I'm just teasing.
- 15:29You know what I think? I think too.
- 15:30I think you could be any animal you want it to be.
- 15:33But I think when everyone thinks of a dog, they think of loyalty.
- 15:37Oh. Absolutely.
- 15:39If you like, I can tell you how I got the name.
- 15:41Please please. Because to me, I, I think that
- 15:44you as a dog just kind of resonates and screams loyalty,
- 15:48you know? So a Doberman, the breed itself
- 15:53is one scary as fuck. I mean, in my in like my dress
- 15:59style, I'm very alternative. I'm very, you know, black on
- 16:02black tactical gear. Bless you, miss.
- 16:08And I'm also extremely loyal, but more more so.
- 16:13I am so unbelievably protective to the point where I will go
- 16:19links that we're not going to discuss on the podcast.
- 16:22OK. And.
- 16:25Mobster style I understand. I mean, if for those long time
- 16:29listeners, you all remember Miss Ruby labeling me as a dark
- 16:34romance, girly and character and that pretty much hits the nail
- 16:39on the head. And so I consider Miss Miss Ruby
- 16:45a bit of a black cat personality wise where she kind of just
- 16:48watches and doesn't really interact until she's
- 16:51comfortable. So I did a little like online
- 16:55test, like what type of dog breed I would be and a Doberman
- 17:00came up and I did more research. I'm like, holy shit, that
- 17:03resonates exactly with me. And it's kind of just stuck
- 17:06well. Not to mention, you know my
- 17:08favorite photo of you is you wearing that mask with.
- 17:11Oh yeah. Ears.
- 17:12Yeah. And I just kind of before you
- 17:14ever told me that, I kind of just playfully started calling
- 17:17you my Doberman and. And it stuck.
- 17:19Yeah. You.
- 17:20Took an online test like it was a BDSM test or.
- 17:24No, it's kind of it's kind of like, you know, those, those
- 17:27buzz like the buzzword just random test plus feed.
- 17:30Thank you. Yeah, BuzzFeed.
- 17:32Play test, Yeah. It was just one of those.
- 17:34And that kind of was like, oh, it's like.
- 17:36What your favorite color says about you.
- 17:38You know those those bullshit tests?
- 17:42There's some of them apparently. Apparently some of them really
- 17:45do work. Well, Charles is part Chihuahua.
- 17:51Well, Charles is part. Big.
- 17:53I was about to say that. So girly Chihuahua.
- 17:59Always purple. Things.
- 18:00No no, I love my my 5 chihuahuas they are.
- 18:04Adorable, yeah. One day we were coming in from
- 18:06the back door. Exactly 1 day we were coming
- 18:09from the back door. And I always have to count them.
- 18:12I never want to leave them outside.
- 18:14So I'm like 1230. And then finally Charles comes
- 18:17in. He's like 6.
- 18:18I'm here. Yeah, well, they they have the
- 18:22same reaction. Their tails wag when they hear
- 18:24you come, and they'll get happy to see you.
- 18:27You know, they get the lick of your face.
- 18:28I can't or I'll get slapped. Yeah.
- 18:30She does too. But yeah, I mean that plane
- 18:37itself is just like any other dynamic.
- 18:39It's just it's your simple at the core.
- 18:42It is a master slave dynamic with an aspect a more like
- 18:47sensitive aspect. Yes, because while Doberman will
- 18:51let me beat the absolute fuck out of her, she doesn't
- 18:54necessarily enjoy it. She enjoys it because I enjoy
- 18:57it. Same like you enjoy it when I
- 18:58electrocute you just because I enjoy it.
- 19:00I I. Get that?
- 19:01Yeah. But she prefers my more sensual
- 19:05sadism, is what she calls it, yes.
- 19:07Sensual sadism. That one too, yes.
- 19:10Rubbing, you know, rubbing back and then instantly feeling nails
- 19:14digging into your into my back or, you know, a a central
- 19:19massage and then a cold blade like it's.
- 19:23My favorite is when I make you count your ribs when I dig my
- 19:27fingernail under your ribs. Yeah, it it hurts in the best
- 19:32way possible. I completely understand what
- 19:35that is. But so basically, you know, like
- 19:38I was saying, probably play in itself, pet play in itself.
- 19:43It's just a version of master slave.
- 19:45And just like you know any other dynamic really at the core, if
- 19:52it's if you're submissive at the at your core and your dominant
- 19:57is dominant at their core and you have a strong dynamic at the
- 20:02end of the day, if you really sat down and looked at it,
- 20:04whether you like the terms or not.
- 20:07Your dynamic is master slave because you will do anything for
- 20:10them, they will do anything for you, and it's.
- 20:12Just a different uniform you're wearing for the day.
- 20:14Exactly. Absolutely.
- 20:16It's like wearing a French maid outfit.
- 20:18I honestly don't give a shit but I'm still cleaning her house.
- 20:23But that just adding a little bit of a little spice a little
- 20:27bit. Yeah.
- 20:29Can I ask a question? Of course I can.
- 20:31Maybe a little personal if not. So yeah, go ahead.
- 20:34Do you ever feel like I know some people get more like an
- 20:38animalistic side? Forgot the word for.
- 20:41Primal. Primal.
- 20:43Very primal, Yeah. Are you like that or because.
- 20:47Oh. So I'm, I'm, I'm a primal, both
- 20:51Dom and sub. I, you know with my build
- 20:57physical, my physical build being a primal sub, I have to
- 21:02slow down because I am damn near double misses speed.
- 21:08So. But yes, the Doberman part does
- 21:12come out, especially whenever we do primal play.
- 21:18We like to chase and things like that to make it fair for us
- 21:26because she is so much faster than me and I'm a lot more agile
- 21:29than her. We kind of mix it up to where
- 21:33I'm having to duck and weave and, you know, move through and
- 21:36she can't keep up with me that way.
- 21:39But there's plenty of straightaways where she can
- 21:41catch up or I can try to catch her while she's ducking and
- 21:45weaving because she's so tall. You know, we, we play around, we
- 21:50have fun biting. A pink for you all.
- 21:55She she likes it when I bite her, yes.
- 21:59I've lost count how many bite marks I have on my body.
- 22:03But she bite. Her so hard too.
- 22:07I, you know, I thought you said ride there for a second.
- 22:10I said, I bet she rides you so hard, but it kind of fits you
- 22:13the whole she does. And then early we were talking
- 22:19about oral sex and you're like, God, that's the way to die, you
- 22:22know, be suffocated by. Yeah.
- 22:25Absolutely fucking awesome I have.
- 22:28A complete agreement with that. That's awesome.
- 22:30Well. For the most part, there's some
- 22:33horror stories that could happen.
- 22:36There's always worse there. There could be no I I be careful
- 22:39what you wish for because some of the ladies gonna be you might
- 22:42murder me. I don't.
- 22:44Want to go out like that? I do, as long as it's my hurt,
- 22:48not anybody else. Oh, there.
- 22:50You go. What's?
- 22:51Different but. Yeah, that's awesome.
- 22:53That's pretty much the, you know, assumptions of it.
- 22:57I guess there's obviously with any dynamic, there's so much
- 23:00more underneath it. But at the end of the day,
- 23:05that's the basic understanding and the best way we can describe
- 23:08it. And, you know, everybody has
- 23:11different viewpoints and everybody does things
- 23:13differently. There is no right or wrong way.
- 23:16That's just the way we have interpreted, Yeah.
- 23:20Doing what you enjoy? Exactly.
- 23:23And that's, that's what kink is doing what you enjoy and.
- 23:26Try to explain it, but in the end you can't.
- 23:29Yeah, yeah. I mean it, yeah.
- 23:32The thing is, like with most subspace Dom space switch space,
- 23:36either you, it's one of the hardest things to explain
- 23:40verbally unless the other person that you're speaking to or
- 23:44audience that you're speaking to has experienced it.
- 23:47It's so it's the English word like the English language cannot
- 23:53explain it. Trying to explain what
- 23:55cheesecake tastes like to somebody who's only eaten
- 23:58bananas their whole life. Exactly to.
- 24:00Taste it perfect. Analogy.
- 24:03Wow. All right.
- 24:04Well, that sounds extremely interesting and I think we'll
- 24:09just leave it at that. But I will ask one last
- 24:11question, and that is you're so young and this is such a cool
- 24:15dynamic. Where do you see yourself in
- 24:17five years with it? Hopefully with more education,
- 24:21obviously that's going to come, hopefully by her side and being
- 24:26her living puppy. Oh, that's so sweet.
- 24:29Yeah, thank you. That is sweet, isn't it?
- 24:33You even got the Hortico ride. Just like I just see how happier
- 24:38she is and like, it's like a noticeable difference.
- 24:41Yeah, that's. Awesome.
- 24:42And I didn't. Know this part of her life
- 24:44existed and I'm so happy to see it like.
- 24:46I said I can be sensual too. I'm not always.
- 24:49What do you do this? Morning just.
- 24:52Back to Texas. Well, before we end this
- 24:56podcast, I think my little Doberman should make her cute
- 25:00little noise. Oh, her cute little bark.
- 25:03Why don't? You make me.
- 25:04Do it make? Me, you're being.
- 25:05A dad do it. Hold on.
- 25:09Do it. Not that one.
- 25:12What the The yawn, Yeah. Do you think a little yawn?
- 25:15Oh yeah. Whenever I yawn, it's quite like
- 25:18a puppy yawn and stuff. Perfect.
- 25:21That's cute. Perfect.
- 25:24I'm going to take my noise out there, but that was great
- 25:29getting hold of my laughter. OK, well, again, thank you both.
- 25:33It's been a pleasure. And until then, may all your
- 25:36fantasies become realities.