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11-11-26 Hour 2 - Jared Bednar/Nuggets @ Grizzlies preview/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: Colorado's hockey team. Here's Coach Bednar with Mark, Vic, and
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  Speaker 5: That's right.
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  Speaker 6: It's time to hear from the head coach of your
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  Speaker 6: Colorado Avalanche after... Jared Bednar and the Avs got a
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  Speaker 6: win last night in Toronto over the Maple Leafs, a
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  Speaker 6: 6-3 victory. Coach, welcome to the program. Thanks for giving
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  Speaker 6: us a little bit of your time, and how are
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  Speaker 6: you doing on this Wednesday today?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, good.
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  Speaker 3: We stayed over in Toronto last night before we head
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  Speaker 3: out to Ottawa this morning, so got a good night's
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  Speaker 3: rest and started the road trip off right with a
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  Speaker 3: big win, so all good here.
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  Speaker 8: Coach, does it make you feel when you see the
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  Speaker 8: stats and your best player does not register a point
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  Speaker 8: and yet you still score six goals? Nothing against Nate.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, he's in the game. But does that make
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  Speaker 8: you feel better about the buy-in by everybody else to
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  Speaker 8: win a game with that many goals and your best
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  Speaker 8: player doesn't even have to do anything?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And I love Nate's game. He probably had the...
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  Speaker 3: you know, half of our chances early in the game,
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  Speaker 3: or was involved in half of our chances early in
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  Speaker 3: the game. And, you know, I felt like Toronto was
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  Speaker 3: a desperate team yesterday. They had, you know, come off
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  Speaker 3: a handful of losses in a row. They're at home
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of this homestand. And they, like, we've
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  Speaker 3: been pushing our team to defend really hard, fast, aggressively.
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  Speaker 3: really sort of dig in on that side of it
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  Speaker 3: and see where that takes us because we're a little
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  Speaker 3: lack with that or sometimes a lot lack with that
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  Speaker 3: in the start of the season and we did that
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  Speaker 3: and they came out and put a ton of pressure
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  Speaker 3: on us early in the game. There was not a
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  Speaker 3: lot of room to move. The game had really good
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  Speaker 3: pace but it was happening fast with defenders closing quick
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  Speaker 3: on both sides of the puck or on both sides
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  Speaker 3: of the ice and both teams so It was pretty
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  Speaker 3: stingy early on, and then eventually, kind of in the
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  Speaker 3: second period, we started finding a little bit more space
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  Speaker 3: to try and bake some plays, and guys executed real
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  Speaker 3: well with the puck. I thought it was a great
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  Speaker 3: overall team effort from us, and to be able to
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  Speaker 3: get six, it's nice to be able to do that,
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  Speaker 3: especially when you have the defensive effort that you really like.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's sort of like our recipe to have success.
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  Speaker 3: And I've always kind of felt that it's good for
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  Speaker 3: the guys to see it in a game like that.
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  Speaker 5: Coach, you talk about team identity.
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  Speaker 7: And I think over the years we've learned that your team,
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  Speaker 7: when they show their resolve, that means they're really buying.
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  Speaker 7: And you're right, Toronto had that push last night. They
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  Speaker 7: get one at the end of the second. They get
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  Speaker 7: one early in the third. But then your guys come
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  Speaker 7: back right away. And that line with Kadri and Juan
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  Speaker 7: in latest scog was terrific. But to me, that just
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  Speaker 7: showed that resolve that sort of typifies your team when
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  Speaker 7: they're playing well. Did you feel that buy-in happening all
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  Speaker 7: throughout that game?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. And you're exactly right, Moe. It's like that's...
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  Speaker 3: They did get the face-off goal, right? Great shot. They
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  Speaker 3: win it clean. Goes over. We're coming out doing everything right.
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  Speaker 3: He's trying to get a block on it. He shoots
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  Speaker 3: it by our shin pads by a couple inches, top shelf.
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  Speaker 3: Then they get the... Puck that they sliced to the
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  Speaker 3: net from a bad angle right at the very end
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  Speaker 3: of the penalty kill. I think it was probably registered
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  Speaker 3: a 5-on-5 goal, and it slips through Blackie. Then, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they get that rush break where the guy goes wide
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  Speaker 3: on Kulak and takes it to the net. It's like three, like,
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  Speaker 3: individual plays. Not that we didn't make any other mistakes,
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  Speaker 3: because I thought Blackwood was really good, especially early in
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  Speaker 3: the game, but... But to answer back, and I love
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  Speaker 3: that it was from that line, too, because they're sort
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  Speaker 3: of a newly formed line. I see potential there for Landy, Naz,
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  Speaker 3: and Waugh to be this heavy offensive down-low line that's
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  Speaker 3: just a handful. and sort of building an identity that way,
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  Speaker 3: like being really responsible on the defensive side and then
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  Speaker 3: just grinding teams down in the offensive zone. They all
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  Speaker 3: have enough skill to be able to hang on to
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  Speaker 3: pucks and pack pucks around the offensive zone. They all
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  Speaker 3: will go to the net. they're all strong heavy sticks
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  Speaker 3: in the offensive zone but can see plays and make
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  Speaker 3: plays and it's kind of what happened on on that
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  Speaker 3: shift or both shifts that they scored on the one
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  Speaker 3: was he takes to the net he he counter flows
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  Speaker 3: down low and brings it and then they all converge
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  Speaker 3: on the net and score and then they basically do
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  Speaker 3: it again and that the timing of that goal was
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  Speaker 3: huge because it you know They had scored the last
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  Speaker 3: two goals, and then we come right back and answer
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  Speaker 3: to get the lead again. And then you knew, like,
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  Speaker 3: running out of time in the third period, that they'd
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  Speaker 3: have to push and make some mistakes. And if we
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  Speaker 3: were patient and still defended hard, that we'd get a
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  Speaker 3: couple breaks on the offensive side.
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  Speaker 8: We did.
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  Speaker 6: Were you surprised, or have you been surprised, that Devontae
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  Speaker 6: has embraced his prime Ovechkin and he's just scoring goals
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  Speaker 6: left and right?
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  Speaker 9: Where does that come from?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I think Taser has always had the potential to be, like,
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  Speaker 3: an elite offensive guy. And this year, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: seems like last year he just, like, stayed home, took
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  Speaker 3: care of business on the defensive side of it. And
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  Speaker 3: Cale would get up, and at times before that, too.
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  Speaker 3: And this year he's come back. He's come out of
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  Speaker 3: the gate jumping into plays, just being a difference maker.
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  Speaker 3: And last night was no different. I just think we
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  Speaker 3: have them split up right now, Cale and Taser. And
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  Speaker 3: sometimes I like it for certain reasons, and sometimes I
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  Speaker 3: don't like it. But they both have the freedom to
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  Speaker 3: get up and go. And I don't think, like, Taser's
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  Speaker 3: deferring to Cale now because, you know, Cale's up in
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  Speaker 3: the play or whatever. And so, like, last night, Taser
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  Speaker 3: ended up, like, he defended tremendously well. And then he's
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  Speaker 3: plus five on the night, you know? And then Cale,
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  Speaker 3: he had another great night, like, back-to-back, really good games.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought, like, the play he makes at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the game, like, it's just like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he cuts off the pass and he jumps up, drives
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  Speaker 3: it by the D and then finds luck in it,
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  Speaker 3: like to get another go-ahead goal. I mean, those are
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  Speaker 3: huge goals, especially when you take the timing and the
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  Speaker 3: score of the game.
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  Speaker 8: How do you determine when to split them up and
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  Speaker 8: when to play them together?
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  Speaker 3: Well, a lot of it has to do with, say,
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  Speaker 3: like last night. Sometimes it's just like, you need to change.
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  Speaker 3: Like you feel like there's something better, but there's gotta
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  Speaker 3: be more to it than that for me. Like they
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  Speaker 3: have Matthews on line one with Ross of it. Right. And, um,
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  Speaker 3: then they got Nylander on line two, two, like super
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  Speaker 3: dynamic guys that can, like they can change the game
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  Speaker 3: on their own. Right. And, um, so, um, I like
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  Speaker 3: one of those guys on the ice all the time
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  Speaker 3: that needs those two. If you're looking at trying to
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  Speaker 3: check them and then still be able to counterpunch and
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  Speaker 3: create offense from transition or keep them in the D
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  Speaker 3: zone a little bit more, those two guys, the way
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  Speaker 3: they skate and can gap up and kill plays, coming
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  Speaker 3: out of Toronto's offense, their defensive zone and neutral zone
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  Speaker 3: and even arriving in D zone coverage is elite. So
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  Speaker 3: prefer them to play against those guys and they haven't
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  Speaker 3: split up right now. And so, you know, that's a
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  Speaker 3: good time to split up taser and kale and you can,
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  Speaker 3: you can run almost a whole game with one, them
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  Speaker 3: on the ice if, if you need to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so that's kind of what goes into it for me.
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  Speaker 5: As a, let's get to a, Oh, hold on. Hang up.
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  Speaker 5: I got, I got to get to someone's hung heroes
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  Speaker 5: just real quick. I apologize.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, coach, if you ever need a shift to sort
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  Speaker 7: of change momentum, or to reestablish something. That Kelly and
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  Speaker 7: Svechkov and LOC line, those guys, I mean, I know
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  Speaker 7: they're terrific defenders and I know their motors are always going,
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  Speaker 7: but they seem to be grinding in the offensive zone
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  Speaker 7: like I ain't seen in a while. Those guys just
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  Speaker 7: put the puck low, and they just go dig for it.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, as a coach, to have that kind of
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  Speaker 7: fire-and-forget missile line to throw them out there and to
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  Speaker 7: just spend 38 seconds in the offensive zone grinding and
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  Speaker 7: wearing the team down, the opposition, how good is that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's imperative for our team's success. Kelly and O.C.
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  Speaker 3: now are starting to hit their stride, right? You can
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  Speaker 3: kind of see it. They're back together. They play incredibly
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  Speaker 3: fast out of the D zone and neutrals slashing on
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  Speaker 3: the pucks, getting the chip game going, coming up with
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  Speaker 3: pucks on the forward check. They're relentless workers. um and
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  Speaker 3: and sketches like we're we're trying to get him there
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  Speaker 3: and he he's showing promise like one game it'll be
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  Speaker 3: like the last home game he they were outstanding right
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  Speaker 3: and then so like they're they can become the line
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  Speaker 3: you know the helm cogliano o'connor line and the kelly
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  Speaker 3: line from last year like it's like this line that
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  Speaker 3: is so trusted that can play against anyone and just
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  Speaker 3: sort of wear you down in the offensive zone and
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  Speaker 3: sort of start building momentum. And at home, we use
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  Speaker 3: them a lot during the second period. they're out there,
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  Speaker 3: they create this tiring D-zone coverage shift for the opponent,
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  Speaker 3: then they slip off the ice and we get McKinnon's
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  Speaker 3: line out there against a tired group in a favorable matchup,
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  Speaker 3: or they take an icing and we put them out there.
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  Speaker 3: We use them like that to create offense a lot.
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  Speaker 3: So it's an important line for us. There's room for
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  Speaker 3: improvement on all these lines still, but I just feel
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  Speaker 3: like we're just embracing... the way we need to play
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  Speaker 3: to have success, you know, consistently in longterm, like we're,
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  Speaker 3: we're just scratching the surface now for me, like you
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  Speaker 3: play the third year, you're winning and you're losing and
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  Speaker 3: you're playing really good and you're not playing good at all. And,
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  Speaker 3: but like this sort of like our last meeting, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like the buy-in has been strong. And like, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like that's three, highly committed games in a row.
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  Speaker 3: And now we got to go do it again. And
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  Speaker 3: we'll have to do it many times after that. But
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  Speaker 3: I do feel like we're just scratching the surface on
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  Speaker 3: all those lines and like in our team game.
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  Speaker 6: When, when Moj is asking you about team identity, how
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  Speaker 6: much has that changed during a season? Like when, like
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  Speaker 6: what was the team identity of your squad at the
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  Speaker 6: beginning of last year compared to the identity of your
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  Speaker 6: team going into.
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  Speaker 9: The playoffs last year? And how much of a change
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  Speaker 9: was it if at all?
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  Speaker 3: I would say there's a slight change. Things build over
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  Speaker 3: the course of the year. I don't believe in going
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  Speaker 3: in as a coach and being like, this is our identity.
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  Speaker 3: Because that might not align. We have players that I
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  Speaker 3: don't know real well. We have lines that haven't meshed
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  Speaker 3: real well. How is Nelson, Schwartz, and Hughes? How do
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  Speaker 3: they have to play in order to have success? They
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  Speaker 3: got to go play their best and have success. And
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  Speaker 3: then I'll tell you what it is. I'll identify it.
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  Speaker 3: They'll identify it. We'll talk about it. you start seeing
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  Speaker 3: strengths and weaknesses of individual players and how they mesh
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  Speaker 3: together and what that identity looks like, right? So I
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  Speaker 3: think it's different for every line, the way they need
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  Speaker 3: to play to have success, depending on who I'm playing
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  Speaker 3: them with. And I like to try and keep it
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  Speaker 3: the same for long periods of time, right? So a
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  Speaker 3: team like this, we're just figuring that out. You know,
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  Speaker 3: what does it look like? What is our identity? How
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  Speaker 3: does it all move and work? Like, how do I
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  Speaker 3: deploy the guys? What does winning look like? And then
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  Speaker 3: it just becomes like this repeatable thing if we continue
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  Speaker 3: to play the same way or better, right? To walk
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  Speaker 3: in at the start of the year and go, this
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  Speaker 3: is our team's identity. Like, we have an identity that
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  Speaker 3: we want to play fast and we want to play
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  Speaker 3: a skill game, but we also, there has to be
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  Speaker 3: a heaviness and a relentlessness to it um seeing us
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  Speaker 3: kind of get the basics down um but and what
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  Speaker 3: the responsibilities and sort of like non-negotiables for new players
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  Speaker 3: are like this is what we expect everyone to do
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  Speaker 3: and then you can contribute on top of that you
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  Speaker 3: know and but like when it comes to you're talking
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  Speaker 3: lines and stuff yeah i think that's built over time.
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  Speaker 8: All right coach uh you're headed to ottawa I know
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  Speaker 8: you saw the highlight we all have, and I don't
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  Speaker 8: think Nick Cousins is going to play in this game,
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  Speaker 8: and I hope he's going to be okay. I really do.
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  Speaker 8: But have you ever seen a devastating hit like that
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  Speaker 8: in your career?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Not often. But back in the day, it
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  Speaker 3: happened a lot more. There was different rules. Guys cut
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  Speaker 3: and tossed in the middle. Like, I go back to, like,
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  Speaker 3: the Scott Stevens days, and, like, there was– there was
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  Speaker 3: a lot, like I would say over the course of
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  Speaker 3: the year, there was always like a half dozen, a
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  Speaker 3: dozen of those, you know, it was crazy. The stuff
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  Speaker 3: that the guys were just like, it was just a
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  Speaker 3: really mean sort of heavy game. You don't see it
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  Speaker 3: as much anymore. I do look at that and, he just,
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  Speaker 3: you could just tell cousin just lost it. The puck
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  Speaker 3: last second and looked down and got caught turning. And again,
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  Speaker 3: I even thought, you know, chicken, like he didn't just
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  Speaker 3: run down there. Like he, he was on his way,
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  Speaker 3: took a stride. Then he kind of planted himself and
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  Speaker 3: turned and you'd see him spraying snow. Um, it was,
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  Speaker 3: it was a, I mean, it was a great, it
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  Speaker 3: was unfortunate, um, that he got hurt and, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we're wishing the best. You never like to see players
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  Speaker 3: get injured. Even do you like to see big hits
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  Speaker 3: and stuff? We like to see the guys bounce back up.
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  Speaker 3: That was a little unfortunate, but this is, this is a,
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  Speaker 3: this is a tough road trip. You know, Winnipeg, I mean, um, Toronto,
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  Speaker 3: you know, coming off the losses at home, digging in
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  Speaker 3: good team, beat us up at home. Um, a little
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  Speaker 3: opportunistic with their scoring. Like they can hurt you with
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  Speaker 3: not many chances, even as we saw last night, like
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  Speaker 3: as the game went on. And then like, but statistically now,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Ottawa's at another level and then, and then
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  Speaker 3: Toronto's even like right now, Montreal is even above that.
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  Speaker 3: So going on the road, this is a good chance
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  Speaker 3: for us to sort of establish the way we want
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  Speaker 3: to play on the road and, and go find some
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  Speaker 3: success and get the confidence back on the road.
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  Speaker 9: Well, coach, thanks for giving us a little bit of
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  Speaker 9: a time.
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  Speaker 6: Congratulations on the win last night and good luck tomorrow
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  Speaker 6: in Ottawa.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Appreciate it guys. Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: That was head coach Jared Bednar, brought to you by Mr.
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  Speaker 9: Rooter Plumbing, proudly rooting for Colorado's hockey team. We will
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  Speaker 9: roll on after this.
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  Speaker 6: After a tough night in Houston, Nicole Yoka, Jamal Murray,
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  Speaker 6: and the Nuggets look to bounce back tonight in Memphis
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  Speaker 6: against the Grizzlies. Pre-game coverage powered by Ramos Law starts
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  Speaker 6: at 5.30 with tip-off at 6.10.
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  Speaker 9: Hear it all with Kaz on Altitude Sports Radio, 92.5.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Bertang, let's talk about this a little bit. Vic,
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  Speaker 5: I need your involvement in this big time. Okay, so
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  Speaker 5: the Avalanche....
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  Speaker 7: Playing some pretty decent I mean they're starting you can
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  Speaker 7: see they're starting to put things together right there's seven
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  Speaker 7: one and two at home but on the road they're
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  Speaker 7: four five and oh so they need to start stringing
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  Speaker 7: together some road wins last year they won 29 games
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  Speaker 7: on the road a franchise record so I guess what
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  Speaker 7: I'm looking at and I know it's going to be
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  Speaker 7: tough Memphis is a pretty damn good basketball team Vic
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  Speaker 7: I'm looking at I'm looking at the Nuggets starting to
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  Speaker 7: put some things together as well what is that going
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  Speaker 7: to take brother.
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  Speaker 8: Well, it's going to take more than just Joker and Jamal.
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  Speaker 8: I'm looking right now. It's funny you say that because
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  Speaker 8: I was sort of previewing tonight's game. And Memphis is 7-3.
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  Speaker 8: They just snapped a three-game losing streak. They are one
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  Speaker 8: of the surprise teams in the NBA this year simply
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  Speaker 8: because nobody expected them to be here. They're getting great
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  Speaker 8: production from Ty Jerome, who's their leading scorer. who's playing
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: like vintage Kobe Bryant right now. I don't know what
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: the hell's going on with Ty Jerome. The rookie boozer
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: has been phenomenal. He is up there for rookie of
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: the year at this point, him and Lux in Lindenburg.
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: But I could tell you it all starts and ends
• 18:12
  Speaker 8: with what the Nuggets do. Forget Memphis for a second.
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: If the Nuggets don't get any balance tonight, then they're
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: going to lose. They need balance. And when I say balance,
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: You can't have Joker and Jamal scoring in the 20s
• 18:26
  Speaker 8: and 30s and everybody else single digits. You can't do that.
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: Cam Johnson, would you say, all right, after Joker and Jamal,
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: who is the most talented scorer on this team, starter-wise?
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: I think it's probably Cam Johnson. Yeah.
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: He's their fifth-leading scorer. He's barely averaging 10 points a game.
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: He's barely averaging 10 points a game.
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: So you want Cam to take more shots? You want
• 18:47
  Speaker 9: more shots from Cam?
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I want Cam Johnson to take 10 threes a game.
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: 10 threes a game.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. And I guarantee you this.
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: David Adelman does too.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: Well, then why isn't it? Why won't he? I don't know.
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: Well, shooting has been a problem for the Nuggets early
• 19:07
  Speaker 9: in this season, right? Outside of Jamal. I mean, even Joker, right?
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: Like, Jamal's going supernova at the start of this season.
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: Jamal is a big reason that you're sitting on. you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: five wins instead of three or something ridiculous right now.
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: Let me give it to you right now. The Nuggets'
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: third leading scorer, third, is Christian Brown, averaging 12 points
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: a game.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: Aaron Gordon after that at 11, Cam Johnson, then DeMar DeRozan.
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: If I give you those guys, Christian, A.G., Cam, DeMar,
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: in that order, the only other guys that, those are
• 19:40
  Speaker 8: the guys that are in double figures. Who do you
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: want shooting more out of that group?
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: I want, Cam Johnson shooting more.
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: Exactly.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: I want him to shoot the ball more.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: By the way, the Nuggets are, Vic, you're talking about
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: the Grizz snapping that skin and whatnot, 7-3 team. The
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: Nuggets are a favorite going into tonight, too. I just
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: want to see them start to really just find some
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: flow and some groove, man.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: You know, Bednar talked about it last night, and.
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: I thought this was pretty good. Actually, I think it
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: was yesterday. He said, look, we got to get out
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: of these, you know, five, four, and one in 10 games.
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: We need to start winning seven or eight games out
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: of 10. We need to start getting into that kind
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: of groove because we're capable of it, and that's who
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: we are as a team. I'm not sure the Nuggets
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: are that, but can we get six and fours in
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: our 10-game stretches and seven and threes?
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Is that possible?
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: Tonight on our pregame show, Jason Richardson is going to
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: break it down because we noticed it in the last game.
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: He noticed it, and David Adelman said it. David Adelman said,
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: after the loss to Houston, too many of the others,
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: and I say others, I see guys not named Joker
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: and Jamal, they're overpassing the basketball. They're just not taking
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: the shot when it's there. So I asked Jason, I said,
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: Can you show some examples of that? And we're going
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: to break it down tonight. A lot of that is Cam.
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: So when Christian Brown gets the ball and he's averaging
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: a bunch of shots, three point wise, because he's wide open,
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: they're giving him a lot of those shots. You have
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: to shoot.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: Those, right?
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: But Cam's got that quick release. He's got to shoot
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: it as well. He's got to shoot it. And I
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: think they fall in love with that two man game
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: to the point where it hurts the other players. You've
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: got to be stingy sometimes. You've got to be selfish.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: I get it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: When we need the two-man game, it's going to work.
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: But what happens, watch the Nuggets offense tonight. And this
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: is what drives me crazy sometimes because, listen, if Joker
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: wants to score, he can score. Give him the ball
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: and let him do his thing. But a lot of times,
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: Jamal ends up with the ball at the end of
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: a shot clock because somebody turns down a shot. That's
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: a bad possession. It's a bad possession. You can't turn
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: down the shot. You just can't. I'll ask you this
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: watching the Houston game. Did the Nuggets' defense look good
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: in that game? They looked great. I'll answer it for you.
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: Their defense looked great.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't get a chance to answer that. Yeah,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: I know you can't answer.
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: They looked great. Hell, when they tied it at 60 apiece,
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: they had like six straight possessions defensively. It's their offense
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: right now that is not where it used to be.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: What do you think the problem is with the rebounding?
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: Why are they getting– why can't they– like the Rockets
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: out-rebounded by like 11-12. They got out-rebounded by double digits
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: multiple times this season. Why can't the Nuggets battle on
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: the boards?
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: What that's outside of Joker– Could it be better at
• 22:39
  Speaker 9: limiting their offensive rebounds?
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: Come on.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Come on, please.
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: I mean, Joker did have 16 rebounds against Houston.
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: Why did he answer it that way, do you think?
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Because he's not going to throw his teammates out of
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: the bus.
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: Right, he doesn't want to throw anybody else out of
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: the bus.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: He's not going to say, look, I'm doing it all.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: But, you know, listen, last year, Cam Johnson, after the deal,
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: after the trade, we know his early season woes, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: he was in his own head, Vic, was he not?
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: Was he not in his own head for the first
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: half of the season last year or most of the
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: first half? Okay, I guess my question then is, how
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: do you get him out of his own head and
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: put the ball in the air with confidence?
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: How do you do that?
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: You want to do something crazy? Yeah, please.
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: You asked me about rebounds. Who is, on the Nuggets,
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: the second leading defensive rebounder on the team? So shots
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: taken up, you're playing defense, you rebound it. Joker clearly
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: leads the team in that category. Who has the second
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: most per game defensive rebounds on the team?
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Jamal? Who do you think that is?
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: Jamal?
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: Jamal Murray.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: See, that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: But, okay, Jamal Murray's been having an amazing start to
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: the season.
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: He's had a great season. But what does that tell you?
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: What does that tell you.
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: About the state of rebounding for the others when Jamal Murray,
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: your point guard, is the second leading defensive rebounder on
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: the team? And why do you think Joker answered the
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: question that way?
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Because he can't keep doing it all, man. Other guys
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: need to do it. Other guys need to be involved.
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: In that capacity.
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: Well, who?
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: I mean, you need more from Aaron? Or just, I mean,
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: we're calling out everybody?
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: All of them.
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, just everybody.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: All of them. All of them.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I guess you can just crash the boards.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: If you're Adam and you're like, we're not running out anymore. Everybody,
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: all five guys crash the boards.
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: Let's do it. Let's see what happens.
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: Well, I think, again, they fall into this practice, and
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: this is from years of success, where what happens when
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: a ball goes up and a rebound, Joker comes down
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: with a rebound? Everybody is so used to running the
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: court because they're going to get an easy gift layup
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: from Joker, right? The post patterns, you know, push it,
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: push it. Well, I think they're so into pushing it
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: right now that they're forgetting the hard part, getting it
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: before they push it. Get it first. No, those are
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: numbers that speak volumes. So if you're asking me how
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: you beat Memphis, someone, you know, how they beat Phoenix.
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: They beat Phoenix because Christian Brown went crazy that night
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: and he helped Jamal. They can't continue this way.
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: You can't win games with two players.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: Just be like, hey, somebody has to step up and
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: have an amazing game tonight. Somebody has to go to
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: 440 tonight. Yeah, that's not sustainable. So listen, tonight is
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: game number 10 of the regular season for the Nuggets.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: Tomorrow is game number 20 of the regular season for
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: the Avalanche. So the Avalanche are a fourth of the
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: way through the season already.
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: It just happens. So where are we?
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: 10 games into the Nuggets schedule. The Lakers lead the West.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: They're five games ahead of Denver. Nuggets are in the
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: number 10 spot in the West. You can't freak out
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: because we still got a whole chunk of the season
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: to go.
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: But I can start being a little nervous, can't I?
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: You have every right to be nervous. You can't be panicking.
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: I subscribe to the Hastings theory. I heard Scott the
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: other day on the show. 20 games is the number.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: 20 games is a very good barometer. 20 games gives
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: you a feel.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Of where they're at.
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: So they're halfway there, right? They're halfway to that number.
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: And talk to me after the end of November here,
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: early December, when you have a better sense of where
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: they stand. But this is just, listen, if guys aren't
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: going to do their jobs, if they're not going to
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: fill their roles, then play the younger guys. Play them.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: We're in a point. I agree.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: I want to see what the two second-rounders can do
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: with maybe extended minutes. But let me explain.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: We're to the point. We're not there yet.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: I'm going to say we're going to get to the
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: point where, this is who the Nuggets are, and I
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: hope that that point is probably right before Christmas, this
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: is who they are as a team, and this is
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: what they're going to be this year.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: Because if you believe that.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: The Denver Nuggets are still a contender in some capacity,
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: if you believe that they're one of the ten top
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: contenders in the league or whatever number you want to
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: put on it, then what they cannot afford to do
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: is lose touch with the pack. Now, again, we're talking
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: about nine games in right now. Tonight's game 10. Some
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: teams have played 11. Some teams, the Lakers have played
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: 12 games so far. But, Bertag, what you can't do
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: is lose the Peloton, okay? And it's even more the
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: case in the National Hockey League because if you get
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: behind trying to make up points because of the three-point games,
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: it's a different system in the NHL.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: I dig that.
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: But trying to make up those games, like trying to
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: make up 12 points in the National Hockey League is
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: a pain.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: In the butt and the NBA, either winner you lose.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: But what happens in the tour de France is if
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: you lose touch with the Peloton, bro, you're peddling by
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: yourself out there with a couple of other dudes and
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: you're in the wind.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Okay. You're not in the Peloton.
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: The Peloton right now is Minnesota at eight and three
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: and Houston at eight and three and golden state at
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: eight and three and Oklahoma city at eight and three.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: That's, that's where your Peloton is. I'm not talking about
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: the Lakers or the Spurs. You, you've got, you've got to,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: you've got to maintain with those guys. You have to, Otherwise,
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: if you fall behind.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: Dude, the amount of energy and exertion you have to
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: expend just to get back in it is, it's hard.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: It's really hard.
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: You need to add another team. And this is what
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: I've noticed about the Nuggets. And this is what the
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: Nuggets have been for. Nothing's ever easy. Like, they never
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: really coast anywhere. No. A win is, Bert, you've previewed
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: a lot of these games. I mean, you're the pregame host.
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: You know what I'm talking about, right? Even, like, games
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: where you're like, okay, this should be an easy.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: Nothing's ever easy for them. No, no.
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: It's always, like, hard.
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: It's always pulling teeth.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: It's always, ugh.
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: And, like, I'm watching Portland. Portland is hosting OKC last night.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: OKC's been there.
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: They won that game. Portland beat them by 20. Won
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: that game.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: By 20.
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: Going away.
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: Dude, Portland is good. They're good, man.
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: That makes me nervous. It makes me nervous these teams
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: getting good.
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: They're deep. And I'm telling you right now, I'm not
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: asking for easy.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you right now.
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: I'm not asking for easy because you're not going to
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: get that. But unless they get contributions from everybody, a
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: two-man team is not going to win anymore in this league.
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: You can't do it anymore. Those days are gone.
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: They do make it hard.
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: Like, the first win of this season, Vic, was the
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: third largest comeback in Nuggets.
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: History, right?
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: The first win of the season for the Nuggets was
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: that crazy 24-point comeback or 23-point comeback against the Pelicans.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: That's how you start the season with a win.
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: I mean, take a look at all their wins this year.
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: The win in Phoenix, they had that under control and they.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Almost gave it away.
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: Yes, they did.
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: The win in New Orleans, they had it under control
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: and almost gave it away.
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: So, Nothing is ever easy. Yeah, but why? Why?
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Why? Why? Why?
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't know It's in their makeup.
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: We were talking about identity.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: Like, we were talking about identity with Coach Bednar just
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: 30 minutes ago. What are the nuggets I did? I mean,
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: the continuity. We talked about continuity with the Broncos. Broncos
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: brought everybody back.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: Nuggets, because of their financial situation, you know, they're running
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: it back and doing it again. But you would imagine
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: with the core of these guys being together for a
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: decade now?
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: It's been 10 years that the core's been together?
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: It drives me crazy, though. I'm almost more, you know,
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: like when the Nuggets were down 19 to Houston the
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: other night, I turned to Jay Rich and I said,
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: got them right where they want them. Honestly, I'm almost
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: more secure in the Nuggets when they're down 19 than
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: when they're up 19. Because when they're up by big,
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, jeez.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: And that shouldn't be the case. You tell me, Nuggets fans,
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: do you feel the same way or is it just me?
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: Maybe I'm completely warped because I've seen so many damn games.
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: You've witnessed as many as I have. You tell me,
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: am I warped?
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: No.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: No, I will tell you right now that watching Bronco
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: football games and Nugget basketball games can be almost as
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: frustrating as it's fun.
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: It's hard.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: You're laboring. You're never just relaxed. You're never like, all right,
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: let's just. You're never relaxed, ever.
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: No, you're always tense.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: You know what we are. You know what we are. Bert,
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: you got a dog, right?
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 9: Shout out to Manala. What's up?
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Okay. Yeah, I'm sure she's listening to the radio right now.
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: You don't know, man.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: Here's how stupid I was. I thought my dog was
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: speaking English the other day.
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: God, you were lit up.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: You were just really high.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: But what happened was I had said, like, Siri was
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: talking downstairs for some reason, and I thought, like, I
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: was barely hearing an English voice. And for a moment there,
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: I was like, did my dog learn how to speak English?
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you were lit.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: That's when the gummies kicked in. I got you, Bert. No,
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: it's all good. No, the point is this. We've been trained.
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: Don't blame yourself, Vic. Bert, don't blame yourself. We have
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: been trained by the Denver Nuggets to believe this stuff.
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: We've been trained by them to say, I'm almost comfortable
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: when they're down by 15 entering the fourth quarter than I.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Would be if they're up by 50.
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: They've trained us for that.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: If the Broncos are down two touchdowns going into the
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: fourth quarter, you're like, all right, I'm feeling pretty good
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: about this.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: The Broncos have trained us to be that way. And
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: in the Broncos' case... That's good because they come back
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: and win. In the Nuggets case, it creates chaos at
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: the end of basketball games.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: Get a head start on your holiday shopping with Nate
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  Speaker 9: and Andy today at Rally House in Westminster. They've got
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: an outrageous selection.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not doing this today.
• 32:24
  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 6: Perfect for every sports fan on your list. Stop by,
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: say hi, and knock out some holiday shopping with Nate
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  Speaker 6: and Andy at Rally House in Westminster.
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  Speaker 5: There's no I in there, bro. You've been in Colorado
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: for 35 years.
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: There's two I's in there, brother.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: Two I's.
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: Vic, help him out, man. Nelly, go to break. I
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: can't do this.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: Oh, stories out there that are weird and dumb.
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  Speaker 5: Bye.
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: I'm sick of this alien crap.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: The.
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  Speaker 8: Is this for your information? What's the name of this segment?
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  Speaker 3: Wait.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, by the way.
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: Oh, by the way. Brett Cain. Out getting hair plugs today.
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: Now that he's a full-on TV star, after the grief
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: he got on Saturday for like the half a head
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: of hair, he's like, I'm going.
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: All in on the hair. So that's what he is.
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: He's going all in.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: He flew to Turkey, right? He's doing the whole Turkey thing?
• 33:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he's going to come back looking like Bon Jovi, bro.
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: It'll be flowing.
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: Let me start by, oh, by the way, these are
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: stories from around the world of sports that maybe you've
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: not heard about. Now that the trade deadline is over
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: in the NFL, you get these stories, oh, this team
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: tried to get this guy, this team tried to get
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: that guy. Did you see who the New York Giants
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: actually had the cojones to try and get?
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: Did you see that?
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  Speaker 3: No, who?
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: The report is that the New York Giants made a
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: hardcore press for B.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: John Robinson from Atlanta. No!
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  Speaker 9: Are you kidding me, man?
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: Which one's more cocky, the Broncos calling about Trey or
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: them calling about B.
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: John?
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: That's pretty cocky. Listen, Bijan leads the National Football League.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: He's got almost 900 yards rushing so far. I guess
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: we're halfway through the dang season, and they're like, yeah,
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: what's up? Yeah, can we get some Bijan?
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: And they're like, no.
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: Right, that's an immediate no, right?
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: No, you can't have any Bijan. No, you get no Bijan.
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: But I guess, why wouldn't you?
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: I imagine that teams have called Cincinnati about Joe Burrow.
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: Do you think anybody's called Kansas City about Patrick Mahomes?
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: Hey, Andy, what's up? Yeah, it's Jim. Hey, listen, I
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: want to talk to you about Patrick. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: What you want from Patrick?
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Like, what? Who is this? Can you imagine that cut?
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: The cojones on those guys. Unbelievable. Go ahead.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: Oh, by the way. CFP rankings last night.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: Come on, man.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: Listen.
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  Speaker 8: Listen.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: It's fine. It's made for this.
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: It's made for debate.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: It's made for talk radio. That's why they do it.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: This ain't debate. This is dumbness. No, this is stupid.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: There's no way Alabama should be three.
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: When the redneck goes out and tries to explain it
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: all afterwards, it's my favorite part of the whole thing.
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: But anyway, and with all due respect, I don't mean
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: that in a negative way. A lot of smart rednecks
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: out there. Very smart. Smarter than I am. But the
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: funniest thing about this, this is not– when I take
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: a shot at Alabama at number three, it's not a
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: shot at Alabama itself because I respect the tradition and
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: lore and pageantry of Alabama Crimson Tide football.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: I really do.
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: But what it is, it's a knock on the system
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: and it's a knock on the people in that room.
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: Because I admire Alabama when they deserve to be admired.
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: Right now, Alabama does not deserve to be number three
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: in the country.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: It's a joke.
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: It's a shame.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: It's a farce.
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: The fact that Alabama, with the same record as Tennessee, right?
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: Check my work. Do they not have the same record?
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: Am I off there?
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: No.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: No.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: No.
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: Okay, so what is Tennessee's record?
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: Tennessee just beat Kentucky, right? They're 7-2 and they blew
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: out Kentucky.
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: Okay, so Tennessee's 7-2. Where are they ranked?
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: Tennessee's at 8.
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: Okay, where is Alabama ranked?
• 36:37
  Speaker 9: Alabama's at 3.
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: What was the score when Alabama played Tennessee?
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Why are you.
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: Notre Dame moved up five spots. What are you so
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: upset about? The Irish jumped way up. Because I'm trying
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: to figure out why Alabama gets... If I'm a Tennessee fan,
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: I would be livid. Tennessee beat Miami.
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: I'm sorry. Tennessee demolished Alabama 26-10. Conversation was over. Alabama
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: left that stadium, Neyland Stadium. Conversation was over. We just
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: abused you. You mean to tell me a few weeks
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: later they have the same record and Alabama is way
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: higher than Tennessee? hell is going on?
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: Alabama is trying to make the argument that they have
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: the toughest strength of schedule in college football.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: I don't care what.
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: Your argument is. The argument ends when you get on
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: the field and play each other.
• 37:30
  Speaker 9: I don't care about.
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: What you consider strength of schedule. The argument ends when
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: you spot the ball, you line up, you play the
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: other team, and you get your ass handed to you.
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: Argument over.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: That's where it ends.
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: I'm here with you on that. I'm here with you.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: I agree with you, Vic. I think it's an absolute farce.
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: It's a sham. Let me stay here in college football
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: a little bit. Okay, where's UCLA in the rankings, Bertag?
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Four.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: They're up to four. They're four. How many losses does
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: UCLA have this year?
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: UCLA doesn't have any losses.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: No, they don't have any losses. They're an 8-0 football team.
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: Right now, they'd have a first-round bye in the playoffs.
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: Has anybody ever been to the Rose Bowl? Because I've
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: been to the Rose Bowl multiple times.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 38:13
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: It holds over 100,000. You know what UCLA had for
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: their last home game?
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah. Less than that.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Like 22,000 people for a home game.
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: You know what's crazy? You know what's crazy right now?
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: Right now, if the playoffs started tomorrow, Boise State would
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: have to go to Notre Dame and take on the Irish.
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: And when the Irish won that game, you know who
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: they'd face in the next round?
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: UCLA.
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: UCLA. They'd travel to UCLA.
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: I knew the text would come in because it's the
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: glory of doing the CFP debate stuff up. 5-4-1-3 writes in, Vic,
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: look at the schedules. If one more person tries to
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: argue with me about schedules when I just told you
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: Alabama played a football game against Tennessee, was that a
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: real football game motion?
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: It was. I remember it. Yes. Berto, did that count?
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that counted. Did Tennessee narrowly win that game
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: or did they win going away?
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: No, they won that game.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: What did they win by? What was the final score?
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Was it 16 to 10?
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: They went by 16. They went by two scores and more, right?
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: So you mean to tell me they did what the
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: sport is intended to do. They played each other on
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: the field, and one team disemboweled the other team. But
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: you want me to look at the schedules. You want
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: me to look at the, so are we going to
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: do that at the end of the season? So let's say,
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: let's say that Utah goes on to win the national title.
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: You want me to look at the schedules? Is that
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: what we're going to do now, just look at the schedules?
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: Is the game now just looking at the schedules now?
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: No, that was the BCS era. Screw you and your schedules! Well, see,
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: the SEC is.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: Trying to pack the new playoff next year with the
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: 24 teams or whatever it is by saying 11 of
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: the 13th toughest schedule in college football are SEC teams.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: And all those teams deserve to be in the extended playoff.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: That's the argument the SEC is trying to make. I
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: don't know if I'm buying that.
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: My schedule today is jam-packed. It's rough, man. I got
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: a dentist appointment at 3, going to eat at mom's.
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to make it to work tonight. And
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: when my boss calls me, hey, look at the schedule.
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: Look at the damn schedule. That's why I'm not working tonight.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: But this is why we're here at the playoffs. This
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: is why we're doing it. So it's not just like
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: worrying about the piece. Who's number one and number two
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: and the number three. Now we're sweating who the number
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: 12 team is.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: I don't care.
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's fine with me.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's right.
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: In Tennessee is only beaten Bama in Kentucky, but they
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: lost to South Carolina.
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: Say, here we go again.
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: You only beat them only right. Beaten Bama by 16 points.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: Sounds like a debate from the 90s. Co-national champions.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Who was it?
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: Georgia Tech and CU in 1990. Yeah, we don't have
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: that anymore, people. We play to win the games.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: Oh, wait. Oh, by the way. I got one. I
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: got one.
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: College football last night, brother. You see what happened in Miami,
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: Ohio in the Ohio game?
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: They got busted.
• 41:12
  Speaker 9: Nelson's got the audio of it?
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: All right, Nelson.
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: I like it. This was going to be my, oh,
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: by the way.
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: Oh, unsportsmanlike conduct, people. Unsportsmanlike conduct.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: So.
• 41:21
  Speaker 9: All right, Nelson, matter of fact, Nelson, you set it up.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: So it's at halftime.
• 41:24
  Speaker 9: It's right before halftime, right?
• 41:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, there's a couple seconds on the clock in the
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: second quarter. This is Ohio at Miami of Ohio. And
• 41:32
  Speaker 10: Ohio lines up for a field goal, and the kicker
• 41:36
  Speaker 10: doinks it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: It's a miss.
• 41:37
  Speaker 9: But Miami of Ohio.
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: There's a flag on the play.
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 41:40
  Speaker 10: And here's the audio of that ref.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: The previous play, there were depictions of the field goal
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: uprights on the scoreboard. That is a foul for unsportsmanlike conduct.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Against Miami.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: Half a distance to the goal.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Look what they did on the scoreboard.
• 41:57
  Speaker 9: They had pictures of, like, four field goals.
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 42:02
  Speaker 10: Which one is the right one? Yeah, so if you
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: look on Twitch, if you look on the video board,
• 42:05
  Speaker 10: there's what? There's one, two, three, four.
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: There's four uprights, basically.
• 42:09
  Speaker 10: There's six or seven total goal posts on the Jumbotron,
• 42:13
  Speaker 10: and so the kicker got distracted. And so they said...
• 42:15
  Speaker 10: that that was a penalty and it was a first down.
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but even better, what happened on the very next play?
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: On the next play, Ohio decided to fake the field
• 42:24
  Speaker 10: goal and they tried to go for a touchdown pass.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: Incomplete. That's halftime.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: Unsportsmanlike conduct because the Jumbotron threw fake field goals up
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: on uprights.
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: On the jumbotron. Yeah, never seen that before.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Weren't the Patriots just doing that? Yes, yes.
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: They mentioned it during the broadcast, too. They were like,
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: this is what New England used to do in the NFL.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: Yes, and now it's illegal in both places.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: There are depictions of the field goal uprights on the scoreboard.
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: That is a foul for unsportsmanlike conduct.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: You know what?
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: I like game and ship. I like game and ship.
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: You know what, man?
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: You should be able to tell the difference between the
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: Jumbotron and the actual uprights.
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: Just kick that thing, man.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 43:06
  Speaker 9: I don't feel like that's unsportsmanlike.
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: What would be the equivalent? Like, in the NBA, like,
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: you have, like, three buckets on one end.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know. That's a good question. Or you have
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: buckets behind the buckets. What would be the equivalent in
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: another sport? I don't know.
• 43:21
  Speaker 9: That is a good question.
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: Because that's, like, how do you, like, with a free throw,
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: you know, they often have those, they give the fans
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: behind the backboard, like, towels or flags or whatever to
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: wave when you're doing the, or like at Duke, didn't they?
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: You know, like students used to get naked or whatever
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: right there in front and sort of try to.
• 43:40
  Speaker 10: They do that at Arizona State. You remember one time
• 43:42
  Speaker 10: they brought out Michael Phelps in a Speedo?
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you're
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: kidding me. I did not know that.
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: No, but in baseball, as you know, behind the pitcher, right,
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: from the batter's perspective, it's all darked out, right, so
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: that the batters can pick up the ball. It'd be
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: like allowing people to fill in that part of the
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: stands when the opposition's at the plate and they can't
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: pick up the baseball coming out of the pitcher's hand.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Weird.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: I can't argue with people. I can't argue with dumb
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: people anymore.
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: The text line is sending you into an emotional spiral.
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: I just can't handle dumb people. Because rule number one
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: in any sport is head-to-head if the records are the same.
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: Rule number two would be strength of schedule. But when
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: you take strength of schedule and move it ahead of
• 44:28
  Speaker 8: rule number one, why play? Why compete? Why line up?
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: Just lay out the strength of schedule at the beginning
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: of the season and determine a champion. Why play the game?
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: Why even have the fascination of un-upset? Why even do this?
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: Why go through it?
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Why live?
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: Why should we even live? It's not worth living.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: I'm so mad now.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: The text line is just sending you on an adventure.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: I get it.
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: It's people out there that live in this fantasy land of, Well,
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: what if? It's all speculative.
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: College football has been teaching people for 25 years to
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: think this way, right? Like, that's what the BSL did.
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: Sports is about the field of play.
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: You play. What happens on the field of play?
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: To win the game.
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: If the field of play determines one thing, it's over.
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: There's nothing else to determine. I don't care what their
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: rankings tell me.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: You can't make that.
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: Well, the Nuggets would have won the first round of
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: the playoffs if they would. And then the second round,
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: they definitely would have got by OKC.
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: It's the same argument for the Nuggets. When the Nuggets
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: won an NBA title, what is the critical fallback for
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: some of these idiots?
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: It was an easy path.
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was an easy path. You know, Miami. You
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: only play what's in front of you.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: You don't make excuses for that.
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: When the Broncos won Super Bowl 50, they did so
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: because they stole home field advantage. At the end of
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: the regular season, New England lost. Are they supposed to
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: give it back because of that?
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: Are they supposed to give it back?
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: People are morons who play that game.
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: Love it, love it, love it.
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: But we will get absolute fact and truth from our
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: next guest, Jeff Legwald, on the program coming up after this.
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: Hello.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: You play to win the game.