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I Think I'll Spring for a New One · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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  Speaker 1: Hey, go ahead and spring for a new one. It's
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  Speaker 1: one more thing. Armstrong and Getty.
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  Speaker 2: One more thing.
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  Speaker 1: Because part of this conversation will include the secondhand sex
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  Speaker 1: doll market.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking of what intros we could do, and
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  Speaker 3: I came up with this one. Not tonight, dear. I
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  Speaker 3: have a software update.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty funny. The fact that these are going to
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  Speaker 1: be so expensive, we're going to talk about sex dolls here,
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  Speaker 1: that there will be a secondhand market for it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I've been known to wear, I buy used shoes, I
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  Speaker 1: get used coats, I got used lots of things. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going new if I ever decide to, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I will, buy a sex doll.
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  Speaker 3: Here's a point to be made, though, as I am
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  Speaker 3: the thrifty sort, as you are. I'll give you, for instance,
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  Speaker 3: I own a golf cart. I... Use it to play
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  Speaker 3: golf and transport myself about the neighborhood. They're so good
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  Speaker 3: because they're so modular. If something breaks, you unscrew it,
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  Speaker 3: you screw on the new one. You can swap out
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  Speaker 3: like anything on the frame on a good golf cart.
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  Speaker 1: So you're thinking if the Vajayjay is on the fritz?
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  Speaker 3: Or if you'd prefer not to go where others have been,
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  Speaker 3: you just swap it out, get a new one. It's
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  Speaker 3: like getting a rear view mirror on a golf cart. Gotcha. Yeah. Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Used car, but new engine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I find myself advocating for something I find important.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, back to you.
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  Speaker 1: So the sex doll market is exploding. They got the
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  Speaker 1: numbers here just in terms of billions of dollars spent
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  Speaker 1: two years ago, last year, and what they project for
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  Speaker 1: five years from now. A couple of things are converging
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  Speaker 1: at the same time. The technology around making a sex doll,
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  Speaker 1: the fake skin, the fake hair, the Bendable joints.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 1: And then the AI happening at the same time to
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  Speaker 1: where it can react to you, talk to you.
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  Speaker 3: But can it cook? That was for all the guys
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  Speaker 3: who've heard those terrible sexist jokes through the years.
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  Speaker 1: Or me. I will pay this much if you do
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  Speaker 1: my paperwork. Can you go through this mail and get
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  Speaker 1: everything to the DMV on time? I'll leave you alone.
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  Speaker 1: I won't touch it.
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  Speaker 3: How about instead of sex, you do paperwork?
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  Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. A little house cleaning. Anyway, back to
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  Speaker 1: the sex dolls. I'm reading from The Guardian. A quick
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  Speaker 1: scroll on the doll forum website finds members regularly pit
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  Speaker 1: real-life women against their silicone knockoffs. One writing that girlfriends
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  Speaker 1: are for guys who haven't found the right doll yet.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you're so not living your life right, etc.
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  Speaker 1: etc.
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  Speaker 3: Pity you. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm skipping over the disturbing part that they open
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  Speaker 1: with on this article, which is kind of a separate
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  Speaker 1: topic from where they are now with the technology on
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  Speaker 1: the sex dolls and, you know, a secondhand market and
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  Speaker 1: all that different sort of stuff. Are they going to
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  Speaker 1: have to put rules around how you can treat your
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  Speaker 1: sex doll or should we be? for obvious reasons. I'll
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  Speaker 1: just read this because it's pretty interesting. Two weeks ago,
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  Speaker 1: two citizens stumbled across what they assumed was the mangled
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  Speaker 1: corpse of a woman stuffed into a suitcase in a
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  Speaker 1: small town. They called the local police, who in turn
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  Speaker 1: issued a statement that a body in a suitcase had
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  Speaker 1: been found. The wider public waited somberly for tally of
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  Speaker 1: a dead woman to tick up by one in the area.
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  Speaker 1: But instead, a day later, after forensic analysis, I'm surprised
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  Speaker 1: it took a day, it was determined that the woman
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  Speaker 1: in question wasn't a woman at all. The body was
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  Speaker 1: that of a sex doll marked with fake bruises for
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  Speaker 1: some reason. Left to rot on a lonely dirt road.
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  Speaker 1: As in everywhere in the world, it's not illegal to
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  Speaker 1: own a sex doll. And it's not illegal to do
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  Speaker 1: anything you want with the sex doll. Just like I
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  Speaker 1: can do anything I want with a.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, a vacuum cleaner or anything else.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have so many lists, but this person
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  Speaker 2: who did this needs to be on a list somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I want him preemptively jailed. Yeah. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 3: how that squares with the Constitution, but we'll work with it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the sex doll had bruises that were like makeup
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  Speaker 1: or painted on and rain matted hair.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a sick F.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very sick. Well, there aren't any laws around this yet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But everybody seems to be in agreement with the way
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  Speaker 1: you're reacting, that this is something. It's an indication of something.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody fantasizes about battering and killing a woman.
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  Speaker 2: It's like one of the first signs of a serial killer.
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  Speaker 2: They hurt animals. This is a weird intro to something else,
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  Speaker 2: I feel.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, but this is a four-alarm fire of this
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  Speaker 3: guy is about to. It's not a hint.
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  Speaker 1: What kind of law would you craft around this, though?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think there is one. You know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of defending things I find abhorrent or even talking
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  Speaker 3: about them, think of the products, and when you're incorporating AI—
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  Speaker 3: if the thing can simulate a human being's thoughts and
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  Speaker 3: reactions and voice, if you are designing a program for
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  Speaker 3: guys who just want to abuse the hell out of
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  Speaker 3: a woman.
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  Speaker 1: Who get turned on by crying, and so you want
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  Speaker 1: it to cry.
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  Speaker 3: Or begging for mercy. Yeah, this is incredibly troubling.
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  Speaker 1: The research is so new on this, quoting one person,
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  Speaker 1: an expert in this, whatever that would be. We currently lack...
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  Speaker 1: What do you get?
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  Speaker 3: You got to get a graduate degree to be an
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  Speaker 3: expert in sex dolls or... Like an undergrad.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is the law. We currently lacked data
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  Speaker 1: to definitively prove whether such doll use or abuse.
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  Speaker 3: Is it abuse?
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  Speaker 1: If I smash my vacuum cleaner, if I abused my
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  Speaker 1: vacuum cleaner, whether such doll use is protective or conversely
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  Speaker 1: is a behavioral stepping stone, because we don't actually know that,
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  Speaker 1: that increases real world offending risk. We urgently need to
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  Speaker 1: research on this question as more and more technologies enter
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  Speaker 1: the market to simulate human sexuality. You know, if they
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  Speaker 1: can come up with studies or I suppose if you
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  Speaker 1: end up with a couple of cases where a guy
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  Speaker 1: started with the sex doll and went on to the
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  Speaker 1: real thing. Boy, that's the classic thing with all sexual stuff, though,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it? Is that you have some sort of kink
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  Speaker 1: and you got to take it further to continue to
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  Speaker 1: be interested. That is like all sexual stuff. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I've kind of found the good old way
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  Speaker 3: has kept me interested now for several decades.
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  Speaker 1: True.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever happened, though, to shame and embarrassment? I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: would be so embarrassed to say I had a sex doll.
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  Speaker 3: Well, because you're, well, never mind having one, abusing one,
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  Speaker 3: but you're a non-psychopath.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this particular researcher wonders about the whole sex doll thing, period,
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  Speaker 1: whether you're abusing them or not. For instance, to put
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  Speaker 1: it provocatively, it seems to boil down to total availability,
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  Speaker 1: a youthful and attractive body, and zero emotional demand or dialogue.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So even without the abuse, the fact that those are
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  Speaker 1: the things that attract you to it, which I assume
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  Speaker 1: they are, that's troubling on its own.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, to Michael's point, it definitely is a hell of
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  Speaker 3: an indication that we have a severely psychologically retarded individual.
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  Speaker 1: While the market for sex dolls may be heterogeneous....
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  Speaker 3: Widely varied.
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  Speaker 1: What does it mean to engage in any kind of
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  Speaker 1: relationship with a woman shaped thing? From my conversations with
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  Speaker 1: professionals and police, there are definitely men with adult like
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  Speaker 1: companion dolls who see that doll as a person. They
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  Speaker 1: might see that doll as a woman. But do they
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  Speaker 1: see women as humans? This is going to sound really dark,
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  Speaker 1: but in a global context where I believe gender equality
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  Speaker 1: has gone backwards, sex dolls are actually just the extreme
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  Speaker 1: end of that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's one wannabe researcher's thoughts. Now to get into the
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  Speaker 1: less troubling part of this. Because of the technology around
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  Speaker 1: this and everything like that, you can go to mentions
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  Speaker 1: one of these companies here. You can tell the company.
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  Speaker 1: what kind of woman you're attracted to, and then they'll
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  Speaker 1: put it on a screen, and they'll mock you up
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  Speaker 1: some stuff with AI. You know, just like you can
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  Speaker 1: create stuff with AI so easily. Hey, give me a
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  Speaker 1: picture of, you know, Joe standing on his head in
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  Speaker 1: an elf costume, and I can have it in a
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  Speaker 1: half a second.
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  Speaker 3: Happy to do that live for you if you like.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: They can do a mock-up on it there at the company.
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  Speaker 1: You say, no, I want her to be a little
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  Speaker 1: more this, that, put her in that, blah, blah, bigger eyes,
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  Speaker 1: smaller eyes, blah, blah, whatever it is you want. And
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  Speaker 1: they say, how does that, that's what I want right there.
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  Speaker 1: And then they can make it for you with lifelike
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  Speaker 1: skin and hair and very bendable, which seems to be
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  Speaker 1: a quality people like. And there you go. And so
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  Speaker 1: then you can get into the AI part of it.
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  Speaker 1: The website for this particular company says will be available
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  Speaker 1: this year. There is a wait list for personality traits,
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  Speaker 1: attributes like I want someone who's spiritual or insecure. You
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  Speaker 1: want a sex doll who's insecure.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, you gotta keep a secret list of
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  Speaker 3: these people and i know it doesn't score with the
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  Speaker 3: law but come on i mean i'm not saying do
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  Speaker 3: anything to them but you know if anything horrendous happens
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  Speaker 3: you got a list right let's.
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  Speaker 1: Start with you i'm pro-list The new Harmony doll also
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  Speaker 1: has an AI vagina, described on the Real Doll site
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  Speaker 1: as an electronic insert that pairs via Bluetooth to the
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  Speaker 1: X-Mode app.
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  Speaker 3: It makes me insane when my car won't pair with
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  Speaker 3: my phone on the Bluetooth. I can't imagine if my lover,
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  Speaker 3: it's like... What the hell? I've rebooted it twice.
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  Speaker 2: You're like in the mood, and it's like, sorry, system update.
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  Speaker 1: Reset my password, and now I've got to go to
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  Speaker 1: my email, and I'm no longer aroused.
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  Speaker 3: There's already an account with this email address.
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  Speaker 2: Aw, crap!
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  Speaker 1: I want to have sex!
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's when the thing ends up on the roadside.
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  Speaker 3: I get it now.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't an I abuse women thing, it's an I
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  Speaker 1: hate technology thing.
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  Speaker 3: Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: I was angry because it was a computer. To finish
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  Speaker 1: that paragraph, the AI vagina that pairs via Bluetooth to
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  Speaker 1: an app detects touch, movement, and speed, transitioning naturally from
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  Speaker 1: a mild arousal to climax with synchronized vocal responses that
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  Speaker 1: make every moment feel real.
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  Speaker 3: It's American ingenuity at work, folks. Henry Ford, if you're
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  Speaker 3: alive in the 21st century, here it is.
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  Speaker 1: You're reacting this way, Katie, because your type is being replaced. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How do I compete with that?
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  Speaker 3: Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Or, on the other hand, you can say, look, I've
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  Speaker 1: been busy to get all day long. Go see Gwendolyn
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  Speaker 1: or whatever you named her.
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  Speaker 3: Gwendolyn.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. Honey, not tonight. Go grab Gwendolyn. And her
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  Speaker 1: AI vagina.
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  Speaker 3: All right, you know what? I've got to copyright this.
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  Speaker 3: I believe just the statement that this is mine, I
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  Speaker 3: have come up with this. It's the year of our Lord, 2026,
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  Speaker 3: September the 9th. My sex doll company, the private parts
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  Speaker 3: will be spelled V-A-G-A-I. in capitals, and A.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Trademark. That's pretty good. Thank you, Michael.
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  Speaker 1: A couple more things on this, and then we'll call
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  Speaker 1: it good.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 1: This Singapore-based sex tech company, Love Ents, introduced Emily, an
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  Speaker 1: AI-powered companion doll to participants. She's customizable, offering personality switching
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  Speaker 1: from modes including co-worker, gym crush, or trad wife.
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  Speaker 3: What about hormonal?
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  Speaker 1: Once a month, it just goes to apes.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, wait, mood changes. I already
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  Speaker 3: got that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want that, doll. Oh, I accidentally put it
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  Speaker 1: on hectoring. That's not what I wanted.
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  Speaker 3: Tired of my shit. Wait, how do I switch that off?
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  Speaker 1: I want a gym crush, and I got this. But so, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're not stuck with whatever you order.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't mow the lawn last week. Why is this even.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up now?
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  Speaker 1: You know what you did. You know what you did.
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  Speaker 1: That's what she says over and over. I clearly didn't
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  Speaker 1: set this thing right.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Here's a question for you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we'll elicit a moan when touched this way. Different
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  Speaker 1: kind of moan when touched that way. Oh, wow, listen
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  Speaker 1: to this. Can offer routine companionship, not sex, which will
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  Speaker 1: help build confidence through judgment-free connection and allow for a
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  Speaker 1: safe expression of your wildest fantasy. So it's like trying
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  Speaker 1: out your pickup lines, I guess, or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking about the weather for a while before you
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  Speaker 3: get on to the whatever?
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  Speaker 1: You had a comment before I get to one last
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  Speaker 1: disturbing thing and call it good.
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  Speaker 3: Here's your question. What's the frigging 22nd century going to
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  Speaker 3: look like? Yikes, Planet of the Beavers.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking.
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  Speaker 4: If these things get real enough, will they become socially acceptable?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, just like just mainstream. No big deal whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: Like we'll go to the Denny's and there'll be a
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  Speaker 2: guy sitting there with one.
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  Speaker 1: Is that like? Well, 15 years ago, I would have
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  Speaker 1: thought there's no chance that someone with a penis could
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  Speaker 1: play in girls sports and be given a medal. And
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  Speaker 1: I was wrong.
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  Speaker 3: And Michael, it's socially acceptable to behead people who don't
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  Speaker 3: believe in your religion in some parts of the world.
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  Speaker 3: So yes, F dolls. Yes, is the answer.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the final point I'll put on this. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot to this article, and I think it's all
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  Speaker 1: it's all happening and going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 1: Uh chorus chorus c-o-e-r-o-s i don't know how to pronounce
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  Speaker 1: it an online sex doll brand based in la offers
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  Speaker 1: customized sex doll heads according to their website they're able
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  Speaker 1: to model each head on photos of a real person
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  Speaker 1: you bring in customers are able to upload reference photographs
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  Speaker 1: to a sub to a form on their site and
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  Speaker 1: the website claims they're able to achieve 90 resemblance to
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  Speaker 1: women and photographs provided whether it's a Yeah, see, that's weird.
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  Speaker 1: Former girlfriend or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, what?
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  Speaker 1: You're telling me, Katie, you're bothered by the fact that
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  Speaker 1: some guy might take pictures of you off of our
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  Speaker 1: website and craft a sex doll around it and have
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  Speaker 1: it doing all kinds of crazy stuff while it thinks
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  Speaker 1: that bothers you? Imagine that.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine that.
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  Speaker 3: Ugh.
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  Speaker 2: This is a weird world.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: No kidding, Katie.
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  Speaker 3: No kidding.
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  Speaker 1: This is inevitable.
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  Speaker 3: This is an A.
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  Speaker 1: Could happen. Do they have male sex dolls? Are we
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  Speaker 1: seeing if any women are doing this? I was wondering
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  Speaker 1: about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they do, as a matter of fact. I've been
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  Speaker 3: asked to model for several.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to have a room full of Jack dolls
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  Speaker 1: that are not flying off the shelf. We just keep
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  Speaker 1: marking these down.
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  Speaker 2: Hanson, get them on the website.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do a test. Well, I guess that's it.