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Vikings Tailgate: Cy Amundson and Chad Daniels Can’t Contain Their Hitman Hype - GB - Ep 71 · The Vikings Tailgate

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  Speaker 1: of The Tailgate, brought to you by Ticketmaster, the official
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  Speaker 1: ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings. Chad Daniels is going
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun guests some legends, perhaps some entertainers.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a really fun year. This week,
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  Speaker 1: to kick it off, it's just Chad and I talking
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  Speaker 1: Packer memories and the opening games, a little 98, a
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  Speaker 1: little 09, a little Harrison Smith, and a little what
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  Speaker 1: we think is going to happen in Border Battle week
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  Speaker 1: opener versus the Packer style game. Thank you guys for
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  Speaker 1: listening and enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hot today.
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  Speaker 3: Wreck it. Wreck it. That's a bad man. Come on, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Turn me up. Yeah. Touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another season of the Vikings Tailgate brought to
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  Speaker 1: you by Ticketmaster, the official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings.
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  Speaker 3: I'm your host, Cy Amundsen.
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  Speaker 1: And for another season, ladies and gentlemen, I am joined
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  Speaker 1: by the great Chad Daniels.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, everyone.
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  Speaker 3: Hope springs eternal. No kidding.
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  Speaker 2: No kidding.
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  Speaker 1: This is the one time a year that you can
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  Speaker 1: count on me to not be rollercoastering from a sports
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  Speaker 1: emotional standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: It is nice summer. So a lot of people think
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  Speaker 2: summer's nice because it's warm. It's actually nice because when
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  Speaker 2: you're friends with you, it's the only tolerable time.
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  Speaker 1: It's a really tolerable time and we're about to ruin it.
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  Speaker 1: We got opening week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, hey, by the way, it's Packer week. And oh, hey,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, the hit man's back.
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  Speaker 2: Can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: Lot going on.
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  Speaker 1: Lot going on rolling into today's episode because we're opening week.
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  Speaker 3: We're getting a jump on it. We're recording a little early.
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  Speaker 3: He's back.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get to the hit, man, I got to
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  Speaker 1: ask you this.
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  Speaker 3: Where are you on the.
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  Speaker 1: Opening week against hated rivals thing. It's big risk, big reward.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. Let's get it out of the way.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get everybody super pumped up for football. Let's do that.
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  Speaker 2: I saw Smith's new contract, and I hope the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: are ready to pay that extra $ 4 million for playoff incentives.
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  Speaker 1: It was such a good reminder that you can find
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  Speaker 1: negativity on the internet anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Like, he all season. A good reminder?
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean? Are you not on the internet?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not on the internet anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I'm off social media.
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  Speaker 3: You know that.
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  Speaker 2: A good reminder, if you need a reminder about the internet,
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  Speaker 2: just walk down the street and look at people's dead eyes.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that there was an ounce of debate about
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  Speaker 1: Harrison Smith's return in value is the silliest thing to
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  Speaker 1: have his... I mean, he's literally the brain of the defense.
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  Speaker 1: To have him back there in this confusing defense, lining people...
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  Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about football, but I know
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  Speaker 1: they talk to you in your helmet until I believe
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  Speaker 1: 15 seconds and then they don't talk to you anymore.
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  Speaker 1: And I think when that happens and everybody's still shifting
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  Speaker 1: and moving, it's good to have a future Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Famer back there going like.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, man, go do that because that's what you're supposed
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  Speaker 3: to do. All in on his return.
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  Speaker 2: Me too.
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  Speaker 3: Give him whatever he wants.
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  Speaker 2: Love him. I think the people that don't want him
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  Speaker 2: back are the same people that go to the fourth Aerosmith.
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  Speaker 2: This is our last tour tour, which is so ironic, right?
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  Speaker 2: That's like complaining about the Canadian wildfires and burning wet
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  Speaker 2: leaves right next to my cabin this weekend. But I
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  Speaker 2: got to tell you, I'm stoked. I was there when
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  Speaker 2: he got the big ovation and it was supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be his last game and it still wasn't enough. I
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  Speaker 2: want to see him back and he's going to be great.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm looking forward to watching him this season.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting when a guy who is super quiet becomes
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  Speaker 1: a fan favorite. Like, I mean, obviously, he's just an alt.
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  Speaker 1: He's a Hall of, in my opinion, a future Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Famer. So that makes sense. But you, Jared Allen,
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  Speaker 1: the mullet, the insanity, the sound bites, it makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Just like, it's him and Kevin Williams where you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you guys just are quiet and excellent. But you go
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  Speaker 1: to the stadium, still to this day, I bet, The
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  Speaker 1: Jared Allen jersey's got to be top five, but the
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  Speaker 1: Hitman jersey, it's got to be in the top three
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  Speaker 1: or four that you see underneath Jefferson.
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  Speaker 2: I would think so. Right? And I have nothing against
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  Speaker 2: Jared Allen, but I'd say a lot of those jersey
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  Speaker 2: sales are coming from 16, 17-year-old males that just don't
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  Speaker 2: even know whose jersey it is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're just going to wear this number for
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  Speaker 1: all of eternity.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in on the opening week. You know me, I'm
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  Speaker 3: a worrier. So I don't like the downside. I like
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  Speaker 3: the upside.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure the Vikings have opened against the Packers a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of times. I only remember twice. I could only
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  Speaker 1: think of two. One of them, opening week, they were
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be mid-O'Connell's first year. That's what everybody thought.
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  Speaker 1: I think their over-under was eight and a half wins
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  Speaker 1: or something that year. And they come out and throttled
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay. Jefferson had nine catches, 184 yards and two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: It was the first time he was in that Cooper
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  Speaker 1: Cup role and everybody's like.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, maybe we were wrong. They might win a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Those are always fun when you're thinking like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes Minnesota fandom is very like, well, there goes the
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  Speaker 2: season before the kickoff of the first game. And it's
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  Speaker 2: fun to watch everybody turn around, almost like those two
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  Speaker 2: guys at the bar in Major League. And they're like,
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  Speaker 2: these guys aren't so bad.
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  Speaker 1: We had, I can't remember what year it was. I
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  Speaker 1: was with our good friend David Hunsberger in L.A. watching
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  Speaker 1: at one of these NFL bars in Los Feliz with
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  Speaker 1: fans from every team. And we'd watch the Niners early
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  Speaker 1: because that was his team. And then the Vikings were
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  Speaker 1: on late. And I think it was one of the
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  Speaker 1: first or second plays of the year. They handed it
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  Speaker 1: off to A.P., And he housed it from like 70.
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  Speaker 1: I was strutting around the bar like they just introduced
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  Speaker 1: me at WrestleMania. And then we just went on to
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  Speaker 1: have a horrific year.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: So like I do, I, you know, me, I, that
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  Speaker 1: after that, you were with me week two, you were
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  Speaker 1: down here at my house. Week two was that Eagles
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  Speaker 1: game where we were both very jacked and we got,
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  Speaker 1: that was a great year, but we got brought real
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  Speaker 1: back down to earth real quick. You got very mad
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  Speaker 1: at me for my, uh, upward and downward spiral.
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  Speaker 2: You're a rollercoaster guy. I have to tell you, I booked, uh,
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  Speaker 2: shows in where you live. The weekend before the opening
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  Speaker 2: game of the season, and that was the dumbest thing
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  Speaker 2: I've ever could have done because it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: just pure negativity, pure anxiety is what I should say.
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  Speaker 3: There's some positivity in there.
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  Speaker 2: There is positivity. That's why I took back negativity and
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  Speaker 2: threw it in anxiety. But I think, listen, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as I get older, I'm 51 now and I start
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  Speaker 2: thinking about like just really, really good. I look at
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  Speaker 2: it like life, right? You're not, you know, you might
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  Speaker 2: not have a bunch of Super Bowl rings, but you
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  Speaker 2: got to celebrate when you can, my friend. So if
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  Speaker 2: you're going to celebrate Adrian Peterson going to the house
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  Speaker 2: from 70, and a bad season, yeah, moonwalk around the bar.
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  Speaker 2: Do a backflip off the bar.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite opening week thing, and it's funny because I
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  Speaker 1: don't think Viking fans talk about it very much.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what year it was.
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  Speaker 1: It must have been 04, something like this. This is
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  Speaker 1: Mike Tice, Randy Moss time period. Tice took the boys
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  Speaker 1: into Green Bay for opening week. It was the reopening
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  Speaker 1: of of Lambeau.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh.
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  Speaker 1: And they put it, now the final score was like
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  Speaker 1: 30 to 25, which seems close. Culpepper threw three of TDs.
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  Speaker 1: They throttled them. Favre threw three interceptions. I think they
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  Speaker 1: were up 27-3 in the third quarter. To do that
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  Speaker 1: to the reopening of their house feels real good.
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  Speaker 3: It just feels real good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like going in your yard and scooping some
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  Speaker 2: stuff up, putting it in a paper bag, bringing it
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  Speaker 2: to your neighbors and lighting it on fire.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: It's real good.
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  Speaker 1: You know, amongst the many tragedies of 09, losing in
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  Speaker 1: the championship game.
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  Speaker 2: The housing market. Oh, sorry. Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's live in the universe where the ball doesn't get
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  Speaker 1: picked off. Ryan Longwell kicks the field goal. We go
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  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Can you understand what that would
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  Speaker 1: do to the dynamics like that exists between those fan bases,
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  Speaker 1: because they still would have the Aaron Rodgers championship and
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  Speaker 1: they would still not feel bad about moving on from Favre.
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  Speaker 1: But I just think in addition to us finally having
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  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, it would really give us this super
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  Speaker 1: unique stake in this negative back and forth between our
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  Speaker 1: fan bases that would be unlike. And I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: only Roger Clemens going to the Yankees and winning a
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  Speaker 1: World Series. And even he's not Brett Favre.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's also a little bit like George McFly at
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  Speaker 2: the end of Back to the Future with Biff, where
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  Speaker 2: Biff has to go clean his car.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do a little This Day in History.
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  Speaker 3: We'll take a break. We'll come back. We'll do game preview.
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  Speaker 3: How's that sound?
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I like a little This Day in History, especially the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the season. I got a couple that are
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  Speaker 1: very fun. September 13th, speaking of Favre, 0-9. The game
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  Speaker 1: is on the 13th. That's why we're doing September 13th,
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  Speaker 1: even though today is not the 13th. Vikings open the
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  Speaker 1: season against the Browns, 34-20. It's Favre's first game. He
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  Speaker 1: goes for only 110 yards, but AP, he had that,
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  Speaker 1: I think that was the game where he went up
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  Speaker 1: the sideline and had to stop and push a guy
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  Speaker 1: out of the way, and then he took back off,
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  Speaker 1: even though other people were running full speed, he still
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  Speaker 1: got away from him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Percy Harvin's first game, just a really fun game.
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  Speaker 1: I look back on that season, that fun first few
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  Speaker 1: games when I do think there are some people who
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  Speaker 1: are like, I don't know, is, is he as far good?
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  Speaker 3: Is this going to work?
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  Speaker 1: And then the Niner game happened and everybody went, what the,
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  Speaker 1: and we went off to the races, but that's the
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  Speaker 1: first one. And then the second one, and I think
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  Speaker 1: you're going to like this one better. This is like,
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  Speaker 1: The core entry point of your diehardness.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: September 13th, 1998. Vikings beat the Rams 38-31 in St. Louis.
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  Speaker 2: Greatest show on turf?
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  Speaker 3: Not yet, baby. Not even close. No, we were the
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  Speaker 3: best show on turf that year.
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  Speaker 1: But it is in that game that Randall Cunningham takes
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  Speaker 1: over for Brad Johnson late, and the rest is history.
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  Speaker 1: Chatty D... is diehard on another level. And we have
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  Speaker 1: the most fun season of our collective fan life. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember that?
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  Speaker 2: Do you? Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because you were a long.
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  Speaker 1: Time Cunningham fan when, when it actually happened and he
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  Speaker 1: came in, did your brain click in that moment?
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  Speaker 3: Like, Oh, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: I never, Oh, big time. I never ever wore my
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  Speaker 2: Eagles Jersey when I was watching the Vikes, except for
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  Speaker 2: that game. I remember I went and put it on
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  Speaker 2: and really, you talk about traipsing around like they just
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  Speaker 2: introduced you at wrestlemania i was not sitting down i
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  Speaker 2: was telling everyone how this was gonna go everyone was
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  Speaker 2: like why are you just just relax he's a quarterback
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  Speaker 2: i go you don't know him like i know him
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  Speaker 2: this is gonna be insane and uh it surely was.
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  Speaker 1: Also here's a fun piece of information the origin of
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  Speaker 1: the number 13 is uh of it being superstitious It's
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  Speaker 1: on our side, homeboy. That comes from Norse mythology.
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  Speaker 2: Vikings.
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  Speaker 1: There was a banquet being held in Valhalla for 12
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  Speaker 1: gods and Loki crashed the party as the 13th guest
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  Speaker 1: and caused havoc. I don't know what sort of mythology
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  Speaker 1: people in Green Bay believe in, but it can't be
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  Speaker 1: as good as Norse mythology.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: We're coming on the 13th. I think we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be in really good shape. I didn't want to be
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  Speaker 1: dramatic and put up these great September 13th moments and
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  Speaker 1: talk about O'Connell's first wife.
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  Speaker 3: But I got a little bit of that.
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  Speaker 1: I have a little bit of the like, everybody's asking
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  Speaker 1: if this is going to work. What if it does
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  Speaker 1: and it works better than anyone saw coming? The two
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  Speaker 1: times we've had good seasons in the last few years,
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  Speaker 1: no one thought the first Kirk year was going to
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  Speaker 1: be super good. For sure no one was in on
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  Speaker 1: the Darnold year. And by week five, they were all
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  Speaker 1: eating crow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm just going to let you know
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  Speaker 2: right now, I'm in. So when this goes how I
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  Speaker 2: think it's going to go, if anyone wants to call
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  Speaker 2: me or Venmo me, just as a thank you, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the deal, right? We have a new quarterback
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  Speaker 2: and not a huge fan favorite in his last spot.
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  Speaker 2: But have you ever gotten chubby and then broken up,
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  Speaker 2: gotten out of a relationship where you weren't happy And
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  Speaker 2: everything just felt ho-hum. And it just felt like this.
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  Speaker 2: You're drudging through day after day. And then all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, you break up, right? And you go to
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  Speaker 2: the gym. And all of a sudden, you're like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 2: life is good again. And I think that's the Kyler
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  Speaker 2: Murray we're going to get.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's going to be really, really, really good.
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  Speaker 1: You have been on that since March, right? Since he signed.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you guys something, and this
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  Speaker 2: is going to sound very, I believe in crystals, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I have a Vikings birdhouse right outside
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  Speaker 2: of my window in the sunroom. And as I was
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  Speaker 2: watching SportsCenter, all this Kyler Murray news, and a Cardinal
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  Speaker 2: landed on the Vikings birdhouse. Deal with it, everyone. Deal
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  Speaker 2: with it. We're going.
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  Speaker 1: I know everybody wants to talk about the quarterback, but.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like my favorite talker is this Justin Jefferson
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  Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder story.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw it.
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  Speaker 1: A national writer for the athletic did this really great
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  Speaker 1: piece on Justin. The whole thing's really good, but he
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  Speaker 1: had this little bit in there where he talked about
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  Speaker 1: how he feels like his.
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  Speaker 3: Clout is under attack.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: And he's ready to remind everyone that he's the best
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  Speaker 1: in the league. And I was at joint practices and I,
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  Speaker 1: I know this sounds insane because of how good he is,
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  Speaker 1: but he like up close, he looks a little bigger
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  Speaker 1: and he looked a little faster and he looked a
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  Speaker 1: little crisper and a little smoother. He's at the peak
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  Speaker 1: of his peak, probably like you're talking 27, 28, 29.
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  Speaker 1: This is the best years, but I, dude, I love that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the Jordan meme, like they had, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have any idea what's coming.
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  Speaker 3: They shouldn't have done that.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I love that he's motivated this way, and it
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  Speaker 1: seems like he and Kyler's vibe is really good. So
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  Speaker 1: no matter what your fantasy leagues are telling you, I'm
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  Speaker 1: bullish on a Justin Jefferson monster this year.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to throw that in there, and I'm also
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  Speaker 2: going to say that you want to put... If you
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  Speaker 2: slept on Jordan Addison during the draft, that's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a big mistake. We're going to be able to run.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to be able to throw. Oh, this is
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  Speaker 2: going to be a very, very fun year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know anything about football, fantasy football. Well, both.
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  Speaker 3: Let's be honest. Both.
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  Speaker 1: But the guillotine leagues that I was in with the
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  Speaker 1: church and these other things, all of Jordan Addison's like
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  Speaker 1: the hundredth average draft. I'm sitting there going like, am I,
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  Speaker 1: have I been watching the wrong practices? Have I been like,
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  Speaker 1: you remember we were at that Niners game together the
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  Speaker 1: year Kurt got hurt.
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  Speaker 2: I do remember.
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  Speaker 1: And- We were down on the field, and then we
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  Speaker 1: watched that game. And that's the moment when Jordan Addison,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: that was the play where he, right at halftime, right
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: before halftime, he rips the ball out of the Niner
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: defender's hands, takes it for a touchdown.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: And I remember us going, like, I think he's going
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: to be, like, one of the top 20 guys in
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: the league.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole crowd, because Kirk threw a pick, basically,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: and then the whole crowd was like, ah. And then
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: you could hear the depth of the disappointment all of
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: a sudden start rising to the rafters. And you look
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: back on the field and Addison is just peacing out.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, sprinting. It was so great.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: And it just feels like since then, whether it's been
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the quarterback carousel, whether it's been other stuff, you know, injuries,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, it just hasn't been that yet.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: And this is one of my big theories on the team.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Let me pitch you this. Let me see. Since I'm
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: in hope mode, let me see if I can get
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: you on board with this.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I love you in hope mode, but just please, please, please.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: be kind to yourself while you're in hope mode because
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: you crash so, so hard.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: In hope mode, I look at this team and I go,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of prove it situations.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Now there are everywhere in the NFL. It's you, right?
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Like every it's, what have you done for me lately
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: as a league? But like Jefferson, who's put a prove
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: it situation on himself. He wasn't even one of the
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: guys I was thinking about Tyler all time opportunity to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: prove it. Right. The coach, who we both think is
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: a fantastic coach, he has an opportunity with the quarterback
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: to go out and have a good year and really
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: claim a stake back to the division. You look on defense,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: you have Dallas Turner moving into one of the most
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: important spots in the defense. He's an approve-it year. Cashman
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and Van Ginkle have been dinged up there. The rookie
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: on the interior, Caleb Banks. There's just a lot of guys.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Will Freeze-Fries, interior offensive lineman, two years off a terrible injury.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I think he's finally healthy. I think there's a chip there.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Hockinson coming back from injury right like right and and
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: addison is another one of those guys i think it's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: a pretty unusually large collection of dudes who are like
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: i'm gonna show you i'm gonna show you and if
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of them show you i think the whole
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: team will show you so that's one of the interesting
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: underlying storylines that i'm excited about yeah i think.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be i hope they're quiet about it and
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: i hope they just keep winning and keep rolling and
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden Everyone's going to start talking
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: about them and they stay quiet and then they do
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: what I think they're going to do.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: By the way, man, talk about our childhood and joint practices.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Randy Moss was at joint practices. I was like, I
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: can't believe I was as close to him as I was.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I can't believe anybody allowed that. I can't believe no
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: one in the building was like, hey, Randy Moss is
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: here today. Let's keep Cy indoors. Yeah.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: In case he gets close enough to try to talk
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: to him.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: But you know how some athletes, you see them on
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: TV and they look huge, and then you see them
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: in person, you're like, you're just like a little guy.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Randy Moss. I mean, he's skinny, but he's so big
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: and rangy.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I would think. I mean, you have to be.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: He's the freak. You look at him, you're like, oh,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: you're the freak.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: When he used to catch the ball standing still on
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the sideline, turn around, and then three steps, there was
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: already separation. It was like, I mean... I can't imagine.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I couldn't long jump one of his strides.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: It was pretty cool, man. Let's talk a little defense.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know anything.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: If you and I were to pretend we knew about
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: actual football, I think we'd be good at faking it.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: But I think somebody who actually, like if Pete Bursich
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: or Lieber heard this, I think we could we'd get
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a mean text and then knock it off.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think they'd love my idea
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: of playing the dime nickel.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I tried to, I was talking to Lieber and you know, we, uh,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: we have Ryan Vandermark as our extra tackle this year.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: And I was trying to pitch him on the concept
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: of calling that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Nickel tackle because you always need an extra tackle rotating
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: in and out. And I was like, nickel tackle. Like
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: he goes, no, I get it. It doesn't make any sense,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and it's not good.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Stop.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: It's like Mean Girls. Stop pushing nickel tackle.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I will be curious, like, what new wrinkles Flores has
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: in this chaotic defense, right? I mean, preseason, he dropped
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Dominique Orange into coverage hilariously. Like, we know he's going
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: to confuse and bring the house, but I'm curious if
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: there's a couple moments where we're watching going.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: What the hell is that?
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I know. I hope so. Because I've actually said three
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: times in the first quarter last year, I was like,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you can do that?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: It's unreal. I love the inventive nature of the defense.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: He's been here long enough that I think you can
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: have this conversation. And he's had such a high success
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: rate because I think the only, my understanding is, I
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: heard this somewhere, the only other teams to have If
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: he gets a top five defense this year, it might
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: even have been top 10, but a top five defense,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I believe, this year.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Jay, look it up. Jay, look it up. I think
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: it's top 10.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is, the only other Vikings teams to do
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that were a run with Mike Zimmer for three years
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: in a row and the Purple People Eaters who were
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: on that list for like a decade. By the way,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: by the way, Have you ever read anything? Like, I
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: know we all know who Jim Marshall is. We all
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: know the Iron Man streak. Some of this stuff behind him,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: you know, like he shot himself in the side while
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: cleaning a gun and played that week.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I did not know that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Checked himself out of the hospital a bunch of times.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Like, his Iron Man streak isn't like a today's guy
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Iron Man streak. They're like, and then he hurt himself
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: after disappearing on.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: A canoe accident. You know, you're like, what are you
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: talking about?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, NBA's like, I'm not sure if I can play
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: 82 games with people buying tickets to watch me.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Lay off my NBA, man. The point is, if Flores.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: does it again, and the team ranks high, and he
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: does it for three consecutive years. If we're doing the
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore of Vikings assistant coaches, is he landing on
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: it for you?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he has to.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I was trying to do it. I think Jerry Burns,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: for all you olds out there.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Jerry Burns.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: He assisted for old Bud.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: For old bud.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And then he became the coach, but assistant for old bud.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: But he, I think in part because of how successful
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: he was with that offense, once Fran got there, but
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: also listening to people tell stories about Jerry Burns.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: You're like, Oh, this guy sounds hilarious.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: He sounds great. Um, so he's gotta be on there.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm missing a ton, but then my brain
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: just goes right to Tony Dungy in the nineties and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Billick as the OC, just because I think if you
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: ran the best offense in the history of football at
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the time. You got to be on that list, but
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: once you get past there, it's gotta be, I mean.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: There, there was an assistant coach who was offensive line.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: And then maybe he moved one year when he was
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: for less steckle. Uh, but it was like 27 years
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: offensive line coach through, through three or four head coaches.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I can't believe I can't remember his name, but he
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: should probably be on there. Um, you know, uh, a
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: cool story about an assistant head coach, Andrew Janoko.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Went to Spain running of the bulls. Okay. I guess, uh,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: just like watching the football team run out from the tunnel.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: He was like, I could do that. Um, so he
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: went to the running of the bull, which is wild
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: to me. Anyone who's like, yeah, I could beat a bull.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: And if they catch me, I'll just take a horn
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: in my spine.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: No big deal.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: That's that kind of stuff is crazy. So I think
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: honorable mention to him, but, um, Yeah, man. Flores has
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: to be on there. Absolutely has to be.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: That's all I can think about is how non-equipped I would,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: even in my healthiest of days, I would have been
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: to run with the Bulls.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: That's a hard, hard pass for me.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I would have flown all the way there, and then
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of people would have witnessed me going, oh,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: they already let him out? Oh, well, shoot, I was
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: going to run with him. Dang it, I missed it.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: No, that sucks.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: So close. That sucks.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I came here for it.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: So close.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Bummer.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Bummer. I think this is weird.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: One year, but you got to put Mike Tomlin on there.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I think you got to put Mike Tomlin on there.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing, the 98D coordinator, just for namesake.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Foge Fazio. Yeah, you're making the list, Foge. Where's Foge?
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: What's the origin of a Foge?
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I use Foge Fazio to get
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the dead skin off my face.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Can I tell you something? It's not working.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: You're welcome. Well, we did it. We're jacked.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: First hangout of the year. First tailgate of the year.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: We made it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: We started with you making me feel bad. We ended
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: with me making a comment about your skin, which crazy
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: thing is you got great skin, but I had to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: take a heave.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: At the end. I do have great skin. And I
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: also want to tell you, I want everyone to remember
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: these words.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Don't do it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Rolling out of the pocket. I want you to remember that.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you were going to not let me
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: have the last say. I waited in the weeds for
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: a moment all episode after taking it pretty hard early
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and often.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Let's do predictions. We do this every year. Here's the thing.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Vikings are one and a half point favorites. Okay, can
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I tell you one more thing?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I know you're going to. Why do you ask permission?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Because I like consent.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: It's conversational assault with you always.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I'm pumped about our new punter. You know this.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like a guy who cares about punters more than
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I should. I'm pumped about our new punter. I'm nervous
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: to see him hold. I'm nervous about how much we're
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: pumping up Will, our kicker.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I think he's the best kicker in the league.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying, let's all just be chill and let
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: him be the best kicker. Why do we have to
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: make a big deal out of it?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Because we need something. There are people way up in Hibbing,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: old men, 95 years old, going, well, holy cripes, I
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen that Will Reichert, but he
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: can kick.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, if this team and or when
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: this team finally wins a Super Bowl, it will have
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: to be on a kick. There's no other way to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: do it. That is how poetry works. That's how it's
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: going to happen. I think it's going to be Will
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the Thrill. I think he's that good of a kicker.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: But I just don't think we need to just let
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the man cook. Quit putting all this gas on the fire.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to win it by 17. Not
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: even have to worry about a kick.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about week one.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Neither am I, smarty pants.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, Jay just told us in the– our
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: producer just told us in the chat that one time
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Will Riker got stopped on the sideline by security for
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: a game because they did not believe he was a player.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then there was a headless security guard.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Give us player prediction, game prediction, personal prediction for yourself watching.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Because you're going to be there, right?
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I believe that's the rumor.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I am going to be there. So game prediction, we
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: always overinflate it, right? Yeah. So I'm going to tell you.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Crank it. So I was telling my friend who's a
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: big Packer fan. And he said, oh, you guys are
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: going to win by 30. And I was like, hey,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: let's keep it realistic here. So I'm going to say
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: 2,000 to zero.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: You got a player prediction and something for yourself?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I do. I'm going to say Hitman picks one.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Picks one in his.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Welcome back, fella. Nah, but it is a welcome back.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Because we didn't know. He picks one in his welcome back.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: And then I'm also going to, for me, I'm going
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: to probably eat 15 wings and 32 meatballs. And I'm
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: going to have trouble getting back to my car when
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I have to go up and down and up and
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: down and up and down the stairs.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I think we are going to win 49 to 3.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Wanted to go with a more realistic blowout.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. since I don't think we will make a real
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: prediction all year. We should just dump this part of
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it and just do player and personal.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Hey, listen, actually, let's do this. Let's do a real prediction,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: what we actually think. Okay. 27 13 that's what i
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: really think.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: 27 13 yep i'm gonna get on that i'm gonna
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: say 27 14 that's right where i'm at maybe.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: 29 14 price is right people much.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Uh i think jefferson's gonna have a a monster monster
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: by the way if harrison smith gets an interception, he
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: joins the 40-20 club for.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Sacks and interceptions, I believe, right?
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: And I think he becomes one of only three guys
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: in the history of professional football to be in that club.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: My personal prediction is I'm going to do everything I
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: can to maintain a positive back and forth between the
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: two of us that makes you want to still talk
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: to me later in the day Sunday as much as
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you want to early in the day Sunday.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: And I also predict.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: That I can keep that up through halftime, regardless of
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: how the game's going.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to check my phone
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: because I'll be eating wings and meatballs.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Thanks again to Chad for joining the show this week.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: And thank you for listening to our podcast feed. While
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you're here, make sure you give us a good review.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: It sure would help us out a lot. Finally, a
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: huge shout out to Ticketmaster, the official ticket marketplace of
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, for helping make this show happen.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Enjoy the game, everybody.