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GATE Kids and Psychic Abilities | Wayne Steiger & Ryder Lee · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: Well, welcome everybody. It is Wednesday, and hey, they say
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  Speaker 1: it's the middle of the week. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I believe that, but hey, listen, got to pick one day,
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  Speaker 1: so welcome. I appreciate you being here. I think you're
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  Speaker 1: I know we're in for an hour of a conversation
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  Speaker 1: that I've already gotten a prelim, so I know I
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  Speaker 1: kind of give you in the inside scoop. But we
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  Speaker 1: have returning back with us, and it's been a while.
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  Speaker 1: Writer Lee from Raised by Giants. Writer, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: And good to see you, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you Wayne, Thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome everyone in the child. Good to see the soul Triube.
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  Speaker 2: Can't see your comments because we're on zoom, but I
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  Speaker 2: trust that everybody's there and everybody has been well and
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  Speaker 2: that everything else great in your life.
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  Speaker 1: They're loving you. I can see the comments and I'll
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  Speaker 1: I'll just do the AI summiration. They love it. Man. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I let me just speak favor over everybody. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I do, and it counts. Words count, they really do.
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  Speaker 1: And we like peace. It's that nothing missing, nothing broken,
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  Speaker 1: in good mental health. Be kind to your mind. You
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  Speaker 1: only got one or so they tell us. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: and do the same for your soul in a'll appreciate it. Writer,
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  Speaker 1: I am excited. I know that we were supposed to
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  Speaker 1: have gotten better back together during the spring, that was
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  Speaker 1: when Lynn was going through the whole surgery thing. But
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  Speaker 1: in that innerim period you have gone out and you
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  Speaker 1: produced another phenomenal documentary that by the way, it is
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  Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime. Left the link down there below. Whether
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  Speaker 1: it works or not, I don't know. To post this, Shi, writer,
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  Speaker 1: I had to do it over a half a dozen
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  Speaker 1: times each time YouTube would in the studio say oops,
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  Speaker 1: something went wrong, you know, and they don't say anything
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  Speaker 1: about what you typed in there. So anyway, we're here
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  Speaker 1: and so tell us what's been going on, how is
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  Speaker 1: the world with writer, and bring us up to date.
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  Speaker 2: Things we're doing really well. It took me a while
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  Speaker 2: to make this movie. I've actually been really working on
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  Speaker 2: it since I've been collecting information and documentation for a
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  Speaker 2: really long time, since around twenty twenty one, clips and
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  Speaker 2: everything to put into the movie. It's been something that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of been running in the background for a really
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  Speaker 2: long time with me, and it is finally out there.
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  Speaker 2: Psychic Agent. The key program is available on Amazon Prime.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, some of the some of the algorithm doesn't
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  Speaker 2: really like this. It took a long time to get
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  Speaker 2: this thing up. It's been submitted for almost four months,
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  Speaker 2: which is completely different than the other two films.
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  Speaker 1: That you have to go through a colonoscopy to get
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  Speaker 1: the permission.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, wow, pretty much, it took a long time.
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  Speaker 2: The first two only took around two weeks, so I
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  Speaker 2: was expecting that to be how long that it was
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  Speaker 2: going to take. So I had dropped the teaser trailer,
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  Speaker 2: the first trailer, thinking that it was going to be
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  Speaker 2: out really soon. But it took close to around four
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  Speaker 2: months from the time that it was submitted for it
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  Speaker 2: to go live on Amazon Prime. But I'm really happy
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  Speaker 2: that it's up there. You can rent it on there.
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  Speaker 2: It's only two ninety nine to rent, nine to ninety
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  Speaker 2: nine to buy, and also have DVD copies. If anybody
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  Speaker 2: is interested in the DVD version of the movie, you
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  Speaker 2: can email me at raised by Jarians at outlook dot com.
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  Speaker 2: You can grab a DVD copy of the movie. I
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  Speaker 2: just did this for people that I not like Amazon,
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  Speaker 2: or don't have Amazon Prime, or don't want to use Amazon,
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  Speaker 2: they can purchase a physical copy. And I think physical
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  Speaker 2: media is really coming back into the forefront of the
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  Speaker 2: media landscape. You know, it's kind of been laying dormant
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  Speaker 2: for a really long time. But they got records now
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  Speaker 2: inside of Walmart. They're bringing back CDs again, they're been
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  Speaker 2: cassettes back together and everything. So I think that it's
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  Speaker 2: also important to grab a physical copy of things when
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  Speaker 2: you really can. And I only have fifty of them made.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very limited run of the movie, so I
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  Speaker 2: just sent out a shipment the other day. So I
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  Speaker 2: have a few others to ship out, so if you
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  Speaker 2: want one, I can get it out to you within
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  Speaker 2: a couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: So excellent, excellent. Yeah, I think we're all tired of
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  Speaker 1: the Mandela effect. And if you got a physical copy
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  Speaker 1: of the media, hard to change, that, isn't it, unless
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  Speaker 1: the way we actually are changing timelines, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's what they're doing. They're trying to upload a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of books into AI and they're destroying the books
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  Speaker 2: and the processes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well there'll be no record, ID only be a
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  Speaker 1: digital record. So what motivated you? Because I think what
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people don't realize that, you know, filmmakers
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  Speaker 1: are rare breed. They really are. It's it's a medium
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  Speaker 1: that is one that typically has much more lasting aspect
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  Speaker 1: to it. So the topic what what's behind it? What
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  Speaker 1: what got you motivated? And to produce the documentary and
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  Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about the journey.
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  Speaker 2: Well, how it initially started in my research into it
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  Speaker 2: was I started looking at the mk Ultra programs back
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  Speaker 2: around three or four years ago, reading through all of them,
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  Speaker 2: the you know, the declassified one hundred and forty nine
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  Speaker 2: subprojects that we know about. There's claimed to have been
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  Speaker 2: several more mk Ultra programs that were destroyed. But as
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  Speaker 2: I was reading through all of those to do research
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  Speaker 2: for my show to bring people on to really talk
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  Speaker 2: about it, I saw that there were several mk Ultra
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  Speaker 2: subprojects that were tailored toward discovering unlocking and the study
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  Speaker 2: of ESP and psychic abilities. MK Ultra Subproject eighty three,
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  Speaker 2: Subproject one thirty six literally talks about psychic and ESP testing.
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  Speaker 2: UH one six in particular talks about psychic and ESP
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  Speaker 2: testing on children. Mk Ultra Subproject one O two is
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  Speaker 2: a giant summer camp where the CIA was collecting data
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  Speaker 2: on four hundred and sixty two children, and I thought
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  Speaker 2: that that was really interesting how mk Ultra projects were
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  Speaker 2: into esp and in psychic ability, and I thought why
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  Speaker 2: And I knew that the government had a remote viewing
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  Speaker 2: psychic spy unit, and I was like, oh, well, is
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  Speaker 2: there any connections between those two? And then that's whenever
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  Speaker 2: I dug into the CIA's declassified documents on the Stargate
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  Speaker 2: Remote Viewing Unit, and I realized that it was a
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  Speaker 2: whirlwind of a rabbit hole and not a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: even the people that were actually in the Stargate Remote
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  Speaker 2: Viewing Unit, really didn't agree on everything that happened within,
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  Speaker 2: like the history of it, you know. And I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I think that it's really important to nail down the
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  Speaker 2: history of the government's interest in psychic abilities and how
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  Speaker 2: they initially developed and started this unit. And that's when
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  Speaker 2: I started bringing on people from the Stargate like Lim Buchanan,
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  Speaker 2: Dell Graph, Angela Ford, which are also in the documentary,
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  Speaker 2: and I had others on my show as well, and
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  Speaker 2: I just started really digging deep into that and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, this really needs to be a documentary because
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  Speaker 2: it's so confusing, and there's so many name changes, and
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  Speaker 2: it goes from the DiiA to Army Intelligence and back
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  Speaker 2: and forth. And then the CIA gets it in ninety
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  Speaker 2: five and says that there wasn't anything to the program
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  Speaker 2: and that it never worked. And I'm like, well, I'm
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  Speaker 2: reading through all these documents and I know that it works.
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's literally, you know, sketches of the remote
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  Speaker 2: viewers and showing that the thing that they're remote viewing
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  Speaker 2: is legit, and they use that data to go out
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  Speaker 2: and find missing airplanes. I mean, Angela Ford literally found
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  Speaker 2: missing hostages in Lebanon using just their mind. She found
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  Speaker 2: a runaway t SAA in Wyoming with just their mind,
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  Speaker 2: and she was actually given an award for finding him.
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  Speaker 2: Charles Jordan. So I knew that there was something really
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  Speaker 2: important here. And then as that developed, then a lot
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  Speaker 2: of this stuff about the Gate program. Now there's a
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  Speaker 2: difference here. Stargate and the Gate Program are not connected.
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  Speaker 2: The only connecting tissue there is that we believe that
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  Speaker 2: the Gate program in public school, which is gifted and
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  Speaker 2: talented education, where children were pulled out of the classroom,
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  Speaker 2: taken to a separate classroom and giving really strange tests
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of them don't really remember the full
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  Speaker 2: scope of what was going on, but really weird tests.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's the Stargate program, and then there's the
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  Speaker 2: Monroe Institute Gateway process. So there's a lot of gates
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  Speaker 2: that's in there. Nikking get really confusing, but we do
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  Speaker 2: a really good research within the documentary to really distinguish
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  Speaker 2: between all of those. And the Stargate Remote Viewing Unit
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  Speaker 2: wasn't always called the Stargate project or Project Stargate. It
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  Speaker 2: went under many different names, gone to the Wish Center, Lane, Grill, Flame, Sunstreak,
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  Speaker 2: and it had just changed over time as it bounced
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  Speaker 2: back and forth between the DIA and Army Intelligence. Every
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  Speaker 2: time that it would go back and forth, it would
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  Speaker 2: then change the code word and the code name of
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  Speaker 2: the program. And then in the early nineties, when Dell
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  Speaker 2: Graf became the operations manager at Fort Meade, Maryland, he
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  Speaker 2: then changed the name to Stargate.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that it's probably in honor of the series.
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  Speaker 2: Well it was before the series.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, maybe the series was made because of the program.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I think was going on.
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  Speaker 1: Can I inject one thing and the aspect of the
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  Speaker 1: story itself was that this was a period right after
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  Speaker 1: it was the beginning of the Cold War and our
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  Speaker 1: public enemy number one, which was communism socialism, which was
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  Speaker 1: the USSR, they were actively involved in this same type
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  Speaker 1: of research. Is that what? That is my understanding And
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  Speaker 1: I've seen some of that. So did you find that
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  Speaker 1: as well as you were doing the research into the project.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So basically how we're a lot of the starts
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  Speaker 2: is in nineteen fifty eight when the United States launched
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  Speaker 2: its first satellite in the space called Explorer one on
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  Speaker 2: January of nineteen fifty eight, just a little while after
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  Speaker 2: Russia had launched their satellite Sputnik in the space. You know,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things were happening in nineteen fifty eight.
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  Speaker 2: DARPA was established in nineteen fifty eight, NASA was established
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  Speaker 2: in nineteen fifty eight, and the government officially became involved
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  Speaker 2: with the public school system in nineteen fifty eight, which
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  Speaker 2: was sponsored by the Rockefellers. That's where we get a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the textbooks and the standardized testing the Rothchilds
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  Speaker 2: and the Rockefellers, right, and we also have the Rockefellers
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  Speaker 2: was literally funding psychic and esp research into major universities
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  Speaker 2: across the United States in the early thirties at Duke
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  Speaker 2: University by psychologists Carl Zinder and Jane.
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  Speaker 1: Who was leading to do on this. Was it academia
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  Speaker 1: that basically brought it to the military industrial machine is
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  Speaker 1: what I'll call it. Did they borrow from that or
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  Speaker 1: did they work in tandem.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing with a lot of funding is
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  Speaker 2: it seems to be like funneled between private individuals, and
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  Speaker 2: then private individuals seem to then fund it through fed
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  Speaker 2: back to money. So it's very difficult to really nail
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  Speaker 2: down a lot of the funding when it comes to it,
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  Speaker 2: because the government or the CIA or the intelligence community
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  Speaker 2: or even the military can just give the money to a.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they can launder it in a way you'll never
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  Speaker 1: figure out where it came from exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Very difficult to track down a lot of the funding
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  Speaker 2: from this because they own corporations. Corporations own other corporations.
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  Speaker 2: They then also own the donation places for that, and
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  Speaker 2: then they launder through the donations and then they get
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  Speaker 2: to the it's some and some weird roundabout way coming
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  Speaker 2: from the government. Basically, what I'm trying to say.
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  Speaker 1: I got so many questions in my head. You haven't
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  Speaker 1: even finished yet, but I keep on thinking, So what's
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  Speaker 1: the endgame? I mean, what is the prize for developing
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  Speaker 1: this and harnessing it? And is this being pushed by
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  Speaker 1: potentially a non human intelligence? Because if we do have
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  Speaker 1: psychic abilities, which I believe we are, that would make
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  Speaker 1: us kind of unique.
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  Speaker 2: Right, that's a really good question. And I think that
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  Speaker 2: it's a really long explanation because I don't believe that
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  Speaker 2: it's just one thing. It's multiple things it's and that
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  Speaker 2: probably frustrates a lot of people because you know, they
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  Speaker 2: want that singular thing, right, they want the one thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they want it wrapped up in a nice with a
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  Speaker 2: bow and a like, like, this is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: This is all that it was, you know, just like
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  Speaker 2: we want there'd always be a singular person to blame
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  Speaker 2: or a singular group of people to blame, when that's
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  Speaker 2: never the case. There's many moving parts, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: really frustrates a lot of people, and it gets them
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  Speaker 2: to kind of not pay attention because it takes a
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  Speaker 2: lot of work and a lot of study and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of research to really get to the bottom of
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  Speaker 2: a lot of it. And then when you think you're
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  Speaker 2: at the bottom, there's a basement to the bottom, there's.
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  Speaker 1: A point a trap door.
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  Speaker 2: Damn, there's always a trap door. Just whenever I thought
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  Speaker 2: that I had it all figured out like it was,
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  Speaker 2: it just kept going wayne and at a point, at
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  Speaker 2: a point when I was like I got to stop,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I was just getting so
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  Speaker 2: deep into the research to where I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to get anything done if I just
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  Speaker 2: keep going into the research. So I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: think that I got everything I need, Let's just stop here,
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  Speaker 2: put everything together. And it's like putting together a giant
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  Speaker 2: puzzle piece is really what it is. But it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: physical puzzle piece. It was a puzzle piece in my mind,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. If I would have had
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  Speaker 2: it out on like a board like you know, one
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  Speaker 2: of those investigators the FBI police boards with the strings
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  Speaker 2: and everything, it probably probably would have been better for me.
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  Speaker 2: But it wasn't that. It was all inside of my head.
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  Speaker 2: So it was a very difficult thing to navigate and
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  Speaker 2: switching put everything together and haven't make sense. That's the
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  Speaker 2: most important thing is to.
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  Speaker 1: So why children. It's interesting that the study it it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we had the movie that mensteric goats, and
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  Speaker 1: this is you know, kind of I think the government
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  Speaker 1: propaganda saying, yeah, this is a funny story, but actually
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  Speaker 1: it isn't. But from what I saw of the preview
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  Speaker 1: of the of the documentary is that children early age too. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where it gets because the first hour
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  Speaker 2: of the movie is really focused on the Stargate remote
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  Speaker 2: viewing and the government's interest in their remote viewing unit,
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  Speaker 2: which was used to spy on on foreign targets to
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  Speaker 2: figure out what other countries.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard they're using that on Trump.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the thing when we get into Russia. You
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  Speaker 2: mentioned Russia earlier, was that Russia actually got more scientists
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  Speaker 2: and engineers, German scientists and engineers, more more than the
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  Speaker 2: United States. That they got roughly around six thousand German
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  Speaker 2: scientists and engineers out of Germany after World War Two,
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  Speaker 2: which is triple the amount that the United States got
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  Speaker 2: through Project paper Clip. Now people will say that, well,
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  Speaker 2: we got way more than two thousand German scientists and
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  Speaker 2: engineers entering into the United which we probably did. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm seeing, like the official verified statistic is is that
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  Speaker 2: the United States got around two thousand to twenty five
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  Speaker 2: hundred German engineers.
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  Speaker 1: And there had to be counter to Oppenheimer. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I look at that kind of corporation. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he gave us all the things that we needed, right,
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  Speaker 1: but he had he had equals when he was in
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  Speaker 1: the Nazi regime. I mean, that's how the Nazis worked, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was compartner li I mean yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: so here they were. Yeah, this is all making sense
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  Speaker 1: much more as you're talking, because as I have heard
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  Speaker 1: that the Russians used this as a weapon of war.
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  Speaker 1: It's part of their arsenal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's always kind of been this fight between
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  Speaker 2: Russia and the United States since the Cold War. The
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  Speaker 2: United States has always looked at Russia as our enemy.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure that that.
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  Speaker 1: Has something that gets reciprocated.
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  Speaker 2: Has something to do with the amount of German engineers
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  Speaker 2: and aerospace text that they got and the group that
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  Speaker 2: we got. There's been this war between the two factions
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  Speaker 2: of people. So when Russia beat us in the space
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  Speaker 2: with the launching of the spot make this really freaked
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  Speaker 2: out the government and freaked out the Eisenhower administration, and
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  Speaker 2: they instituted these They started looking for gifted and talented
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  Speaker 2: children that they can recruit into the military intelligence agencies
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  Speaker 2: positions of power, put them in our communities, you know,
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  Speaker 2: including inventors and out of the box thinkers, entertainers. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we actually talked about this within the last movie that
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  Speaker 2: I did, a clockwork shining to Kubric's Odyssey three where
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  Speaker 2: Lookout Mountain, the military base on top of Laurel Canyon
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  Speaker 2: right outside of la and how all these musicians are
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  Speaker 2: have high ranking military family members. You know, these two
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  Speaker 2: things kind of you know, really meld together. So if
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  Speaker 2: they can get people from a really young age, because
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  Speaker 2: it's about control, right, It's about taking the best young
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  Speaker 2: and brightest minds and molding them into what you want
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  Speaker 2: them to be. Right, And the best people to do
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  Speaker 2: this too is children. They are the future. So if
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  Speaker 2: you can control the children, then they can control the future.
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  Speaker 2: And if anyone ever goes too far, it won't really
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  Speaker 2: matter because they'll essentially be working for the government. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So you get all of these young kids at a
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  Speaker 2: very young age, you identify them based upon a list
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  Speaker 2: of things, and we show it in the movie in
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  Speaker 2: the documentary, and it's not just you know, intelligence, it's
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  Speaker 2: not just BookSmart. It's an array of things. It's many things.
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  Speaker 2: It's are you entertaining, are you funny? You know? Do
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  Speaker 2: you have critical thinking skills? Can you identify certain things?
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  Speaker 2: Are you good at pattern recognition? You know?
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  Speaker 1: And remember those tests.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Because anybody that can actually make a difference in our
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: in our realities, such as inventors or inventing a new
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: thing that may revolutionize the way that we operate as
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: a society. Because I know that I've talked to you
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: about this several times when it's like it seems like
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: nothing really changes in our reality, Like the only thing
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: that really changes is like our computers and our technology.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Our way of life has not really changed. It's been
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the exact same We've been using the exact same things,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: the same planes, the same trains, the same types of cars.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I mean cars have changed a little bit with the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: electric cars, but it's still nothing like what we believe
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that it would be. Uh, And you know it's it's
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: we don't have like you know, the high powered rail
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: systems that the Japana Like, why don't we I told
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: we built it, Yeah, why don't we have these things
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: that will that could and would really change and better
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: the quality of life in the United States.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I grew up with the Jetsons. I mean,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you know, I was in first grade in nineteen sixty
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and we had the Flintstones and then we had the Jetsons.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Everyone loved the Jetsons. You know, I want my flying car.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: You know, my robot is about to become reality. Tesla's
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: going to see to that. But yeah, and it's so true.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: So my contention is that the reason that nothing changes
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: is because all the people that could make a really
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: big difference in the way that we operate is working
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: for the government, working for the military, working for the
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: three let organizations, right, and they're not able to do it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: And the ones that slip through the cracks that may
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: invent something that would revolutionize the way we operate as
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: a society. Their patents are buried under the National Security Act.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Find out exactly no one will ever find out about it,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: and a lot of times they'll they're killed, assassinated and murdered.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I mean. The Invention Secrecy Act of nineteen fifty one
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: says that the government can literally classify any patent that
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: threatens national security.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: And national discoveries because excuse me, security is ambiguously defined.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: No, well, it means whatever they say that it means exactly.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: One of the things is we've been talking here because
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I think everyone who would agree in the audience and
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: everyone in the chat room, we love you, thank you
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you just many of you are at the same age.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I'm a baby boomer, right, So I was born in
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: nineteen fifty five, which was the beginning of the Eisenhower error,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and it was a time that I would say that
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: if you looked at the elementary age group, was far
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: different than what you would look at an elementary age
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: group here. The schools were much more regimented. There were
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I grew up in Santa Clair and that's where I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: went to elementary school. In fact, Steve Jobs when we
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: went to the same school that I did. So as
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: you were talking, I can remember them pulling us out
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: of class and one of one of the things that
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: we had that I remember, they had head sets of
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: not just a hearing test, but it was to see
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: different octaves. And then there was the screen in which
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you know, I wonder how much of that was cognition
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: testing or finding something else.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, so other than recruiting people, because
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I believe that that is a major part of it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: But there are many branches to this tree, and I
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: believe that there's another part of it because there are
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: things that people remember that are, you know, way stranger
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: that don't make any sense, like like what you were
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: mentioning the hearing test, being forced to take some sort
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: of strange substance like a pink drink, you know, playing
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: with blocks strings. Some people even recall reading hieroglyphic material
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: for people deciphering Egyptian hieroglyphic, you know. People remember describing
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: wearing three D glasses, you know. And there's there's several
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: projects and things that people remember going through that are
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: very identifiable, like the Ames leaf Room, which was created
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: by doctor Ames, which was this room that was funded
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: and contracted to the Office of Naval Research where he
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: would take college students into this room that had leafs
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: all around it. It's a very real thing you can
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: look at on Google Ames Leaf Room a m E
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: s and he would dose them with LSD. He would
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: put these goggles over their eyes and then have them
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: trip balls in this this small room that has all
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: these these weird, strange leaves around it, and a lot
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: of these people would end up in some sort of
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: psychosis and they would end up in the er, so,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: you know. And then there's also the Gansfeld experiment g
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: A n Z F E l D and it's uh,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: it's called the that's you know, the gans Felt experiment.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: It's to induce hallucinations and activate psychic abilities. I've been
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: talking about that a lot here recently.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Even the chills man, that's that's you know.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: So essentially, what you would do is you would cut
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: a ping pong ball in half, right, kind of ping
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: pong ball in half. You would play tape them over
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: your eyelids, and then you would take a bright red light,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: led light or fluorescent light and shine it on your
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: face and then open your eyes and look through the
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: ping pong balls. And this would then start to make
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: you you know, will say acid, right, they can be
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: tripping on acid or not be tripping on acid. If
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: you do it for long enough, you don't have to
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: be taking any substances. Some people that lay there for
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: over thirty minutes, A lot of people can't make it
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: past thirty minutes.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I can see that no pun intended, but I mean, seriously,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I get that.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: So we have all these weird, strange and some people
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: trying to say that, you know, the pink drink or
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: whatever substance that they were taking was just fluoride, that
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: it was given to them by the health department, And
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, well, if it was just a fluoride
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: mouth rins, then why do many people remember it being
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: something completely different? Why were they told that it was
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: something different than fluoride. Some people were told that it
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: was a vitamin, liquid vitamins. Other people were told that
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: it was a liquid vaccination. Some people were told it
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: was for ADHD, that it was for their asthma. Walter
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Bosley within the movie Psychoagen the Gay Program, said that
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: he was told that it was for his asthmatic condition.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: So if it was just for a singular thing, then
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: why weren't everybody told that it was for that singular thing.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: If it was just the mouth rens and in fluoride,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: then it should be a mouth rens on fluoride for everybody,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't, you know.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: So this is bizarre because didn't they do in the
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: fifties And I think Saint Louis was one of the
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: cities where I don't know, but it was the CIA
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: or military intelligence or whoever was running the thing that
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: they actually exposed many people that were in trolley cars,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: subways and what have you to hallucinogenics and they would
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: observe to see what was happening on a mass scale
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: and using us as guinea pigs.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, unknowingly dosing people with LSD. Yeah, that's been
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: it's been going on for a really long time. And
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: also with aerosols, yes, the aerosols.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: They would just spray aerosol on LSD, aerosol on suspecting people.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: And I don't know about you, Wayne, by being unknowingly
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: dosed with a hallucinogenic substance is never a fun time.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: You can literally lose your mind.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I yeah, I've told this story for years and years
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: that what happened to me when I was living on
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the streets. They're in Houston, Texas, and the chick that
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: invited me to this place. It was where we have
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: been tob hospital in many of you if you live
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: there in Houston, you know where I'm talking about. And
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: it was very ambiguous office. You know, you walked in
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: and you know, they what they gave us was literally
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: an eye dropper. They put it right underneath our tongue,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: and you know, or half a dozen us of for more.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: And it's weird because I hadn't ever really thought of it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: As I said, my motivation was to get laid. That's
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: why I would win. And yeah, so I'm often wondering if,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: because I constantly hear the use of elestine this period
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of time, there was something else that obviously the governments
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: and the higher ups were exploring with because and I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: agree with you, not all minds can handle it, and
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: there's others that that do. But yeah, was this part
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: of the program. Was this part of the psychic program?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's suspected that that some type of drug
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: was involved in the gifted and talented education in public school,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: but there's it's hard to find proof and evidence of that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: But if you look through the MK Ultra programs, you
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: will see that doctor Hwan Cameron in Canada, out of
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Ravens Craig would do something very similar to what people
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: remember happening to them in these gifted and talented programs
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: in public school. Right he would drug the patient through
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: some form of substance. He would then traumatized them, which
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: ended in deep patterning, which was getting rid of all
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: of their cognitive thought, and then he would put in
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: a looped audio message with headphones. So I don't think
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: that it's just a coincidence that this was a real program,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: verifiable that was happening in Canada after the CIA shipped
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of the MK Ultra subprojects in the Canada,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: that you and Cameron was legitimately doing the exact same
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: thing that people remember happening to them in public school,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: taking a strange substance, going into a room, having headphones on,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: weird and strange frequencies, sometimes having to put glasses on,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: you know, three D glasses or goggles, playing with blocks,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: strange vision test, rorshack test, you know, all these different things.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think that it's a that it's a coincidence.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: So we don't have any solid proof that they were
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: drugging children, but we can kind of put two and
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: two together and come to a reasonable conclusion that that
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: was probably the case at least with some children. And
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: then you also have like the LSD eye drops as well.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: You had the liquid LSD that they would put under
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: your tongue. But there was also another deliverable LSD, which
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: is the eye drop. So how easy would it be to,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: you know, have a kid, go see the school nurse
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: and be like time for your daily eye drops? Can
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: you know, let's put these eye drops in your eyes
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: and they're they're not really eye drops, they're liquid LSD.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Then go into this room, go into this dark room.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Put these headphones on that are people remember to be
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: at the Monroe Institute gateway tape setters to induce an
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: out of body experience. Go and get outside of your
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: body there, Jimmy, I.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Don't think the program ever stopped.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Did it communicate with the transcendental beings, get the information
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: from the beings out in the universe and bring us
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: back all that information to me.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: That you're saying that because I've been there, I mean,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: it's no high privilege and those beings do exist. Yes,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I was under the influence of the lysurgic DSLAMI, but yeah,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and you know they they the peer of the mics.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: You know, the more intensity, that's how it's measured. It
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: sends you in very different places, very different places. I
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: don't think that was a program ever stopped. Go ahead, brother.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm sorry. I didn't mean interrupted, but that
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: was the goal of the Monolial Institute Gateway projects and
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the Gateway tapes. We show the document in the documentary
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: about how you know that the goal is to get
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: people outside of their body to communicate with non human intelligences.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I'm getting the farious vibes on that, because what would
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: you be wanting to talk to him about the future
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: technology control?
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: There?
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: You yeah, I mean those are just what would you
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: talk to, you know, a non human and terrestrial being.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, what would you say to it? It'd be
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: like talking to God, right.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And you know, Alex Jones was talking about on
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Joe Rogan in two thousand and seventeen, around twenty and
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: seventeen that these high up government officials were doing DMT
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: and went into extraterrestrial freaking mothership and communicating with extraterrestrial
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: beings in San Francisco and getting information, getting information from
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: these extraterrestrial breeds and beans and making intergalactic deals. Which
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: you can say whatever you want to say about Alex Jones,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, whether he's right or wrong or wrong around I.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Think I met him in Austin, Texas, when I live
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: down there.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Or that he's cointelpro or whatever you want to believe
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: about him. But I always found that really interesting that
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: he was saying that, and he's been he has been
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: right about quite a few things. So it's like, what
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: is really going on here? I mean, is this like
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: what is that what they're actually doing? And I believe that.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: And again people try and you know, chalk this up
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: to you know, some sort of standard quarterly testing from
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the Health Department or the President's of Physical Fitness test.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: something that is happening to certain children every single day
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: that they're encountering a gentleman or a man that comes
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: into the classroom and a suit someone that they had
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: never met before in pulling them out of class and
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: subjecting them to these tests. And yes, it's still going
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: on today. I've been contacted by people that have told
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: me that their kid is currently in a gifted and
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Talented education program in public school. One of the most
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: interesting ones was told to me by somebody that I
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: know that I know personally, and he told me that
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: when his daughter came home one day, and that's the
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: thing is that the parents don't really know what's going on, right,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: That the parents really have no idea because they're at home.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: The school is supposed to take care of their child.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: They might know, you know, that they're involved in some
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: sort of gifted and talented program, right, but they don't
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: know what's going on at the school. They're not there, right,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: And their parents are normally really busy, they're working a job,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: they're trying to provide for the family. That so it's
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: not really the parent's fault, you know, it's the public
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: school and the education system's fault. But this gentleman told
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: me that his daughter came home from school and was like, hey,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: every day at school and a black suv pulls up
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: in front of the school and me and a few
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: handful of kids get inside of the black suv and
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: we go on a field trip that he didn't sign
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: to go for his daughter to go in a field
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: trip every day, okay. And then she also tells him
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: that whenever she whenever she gets home after school and
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: lays down and go to sleep, that she's woken up
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the night around three am to
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: a bunch of kids in her house and they get
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: her and they all go outside and do like a
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: night's school, like they all go outside and meet. And
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: so as soon as he heard that, he was like out,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: pulling you out of public school, You're done, and he did.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: But there's also Whitley Streeber's book called The Secret School
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: came out and I believe nineteen ninety seven. It's called
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: The Secret School Preparation for Contact, which is very similar
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: to the story that I just mentioned. This gentleman telling
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: me that their kid was woken up in the middle
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: of the night. This is what Willy Streeper wrote about
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety sive where he was woken up in
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: the middle of the night and taking around all over
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: the place and taught secrets and told secrets of the
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: universe or whatever.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Writer, is it a stretch, because this is what my
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: mind is as I'm hearing this. This seems to me
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: like this is our government searching for hybrids, certain unique
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: hybrid humans, which kind of goes back, you know, the
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: whole thing to Chris Carter and the X Files is
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: that that's what the X Files was about, was the
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: hybrirization of humanity from extraterrestrials. And I can't help but
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: not think that the research, the documentary that you have
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: produced here is again it has tendrils that it seems
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to me that they're certain they're seeking this out because
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think all hybrids have been registered with governments
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: or private corporations. I think they are rogue elements that
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: have infiltrated I guess us it would seem that if
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: you're of a hybrid type, certain psychic abilities would become
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: almost a natural aspect of your DNA, your physiology, of
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: your brain, et cetera.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Well, they also want to use and propagandize people, right
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: They for the future, and anybody can be used in
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: this way, right the people, even the people that you
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: don't think could be used, can be used. I mean,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: they're looking for anybody to fulfill an agenda. They could
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: be looking for the next Greta Thumberg. They'd be looking
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: for the next thing old star NBA player, you're looking
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: for the next basketball player. They can be looking for
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: the next biggest musician on the planet. Or are they
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: gonna be looking for the mailman? Or are they gonna
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: be looking for the DMV worker.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: What would be the what would be was what they
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: would be looking for. Is it is there a uniqueness
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: to the personality the individual, or is it it's a
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: complex program. I'm trying to get my head around as
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: to what is the end game here.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a really good question, because it seems as
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: if the people that did not make it through the
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: program don't really have the best type of life, you
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like they're not doing the best
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: that they should be doing in life, like the people
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: that really remember, because the high up people don't care
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: about what they went through because they're successful, right. They
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: don't care about the trauma that they endure. They don't
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: care about the hearing tests. They don't care about potentially
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: being dosed with some form of drug and being outside
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: of their body and disassociating and then being programmed with
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: a bunch of things for their future. They don't care
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: because they're successful in their life. Most people, you know
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: what I mean, that are in that position don't really care.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: And that's the whole thing that I believe really happened
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: with Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was in the gay program.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: He was in a literal school that was dedicated just
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: for gifted and talented children. And Palatine, Illinois called the
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Creative Children's Academy. It's now been renamed QUEST Academy. It
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: was renamed in nineteen ninety nine. It's important to know
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: that this wasn't just a he wasn't just in like
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: a gate class right where he would be taken out
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: of the classroom and put into a different class. This
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: was an entire school, a private school just for gifted
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: in town. All the kids in the school were deemed
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: to be gifted and talented children. And you can get
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: on their website right now called QUEST Academy in Illinois, Palenting, Illinois,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: and you can read all about it and what they
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: do and what they offer. And it's really interesting the
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: wording that they use, because they use wording that makes
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: it seem like that that if you make it through
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: this school, it's like kindergarten through the eighth grade. If
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: you make it through this school, then you're going to
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: be set up for life, you know what I mean,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Like you're going to be taken care of, You're going
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: to be successful. We are going to create the opportunities
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: for you to thrive inside of the classroom and outside
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: of the classroom. So we're going to install all of
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: these people around you when you get out of school.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: That is going to a handlers essentially that's going to
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: push you in a certain direction, the direction that we
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: want you to get opportunities like what like running a
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: multi million dollar nonprofit organization. So also with with your
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: idea about these hybrids, it it could could be something
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: like that. And it also could be something like with bloodlines,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: like with our age negative blood, you know the.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Bloodline, you know, the golden blood. I just did a
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: video on that.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: So it could be something to do with a you know,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: certain types of bloodlines, certain types of genetics that they
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: may or may not be looking for. I mean, the
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: hearing tests are actually really important because it's been said
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: that kids were tagged, which is really interesting concept because
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: that was another name of a program called talented and
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: gifted see whenever in the early seventies, when you know,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: parents found out about these gifted and talented you know programs,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: that their kids were being pulled out of the classroom
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: and all these experiments essentially were being ran on in
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: them all the time, and they tried to go to
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: the school and get access to their child school records. Well,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: the school wouldn't give it to them, So the parents
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: then they tried to act this law called It's like
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Parents write some Privacy Act Family Rights and Privacy Act,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: which would give the parents of children inside of public
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: schools would give them back their child's school records. But
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: they had found out that the reason that they couldn't
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: get their child's school records is because the CIA had them. All.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: The CIA was literally literally had a record file on
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: every single child in public school. So whenever they enacted PURPA,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: which was to get the CIA out of having child's
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: school records, which included test scores, behavioral, anything they ever
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: got in trouble for what they were doing, good, anything
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: that was ever written down about the child, the CIA
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: slipped an amendment into FURPA, which still gave the CIA
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: access to the child's educational records out of public school.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: And then when the Patriot Act happened, that just completely
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: destroyed anything that any guardrails that had because then they
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: could get access to child's school records under the threat
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: of national security and terrorism and domestic terrorism. So now
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: the government can get whatever they want. We believe that
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: he's a terrorist, we need the files. That's all that
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: they have to do right. So when the CIA put
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: the amendment in, they then started to try and change
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: some of the names of the program. So they changed
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: some of the acronyms depending on where you lived, several
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: of them in Georgia. People have been talking about Georgia
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: and the comments of my videos a lot, and how
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: they were in these programs and really weird and strange
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: things happened to them in the Gate programs in Georgia.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: But TAG program, which was talented and gifted, is the
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: acronym for that. Some people have been claiming Focus, which
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: the acronym for that is fostering originality, creativity, and understanding
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: and self awareness. So it's very much real, it's very
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: much going on to this very day. There are entire
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: schools set up just for gifted and talented children all
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: across the United States. And then that's not even getting
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: into the whole teen behavioral modification schools that really started
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: in Utah, which were summer camps and Utah where they
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: would send unruly teenagers out hiking for an entire summer,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: and then that turned into entire team behavioral modification schools
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: which were essentially prison for teenagers, which were k Ultra
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Facilities Centrally.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Texas sent me out to outward Bound. That was a
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: weird experience. That was the order of the state, you know. So, yeah, that's.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Exactly right, that's what they were doing a lot of times.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: How long were you in.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: It for outward Bound? It was two weeks. It was
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: out in the Rio Grande National Park out there. Yeah,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: it was. It was interesting. I remember in the middle
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: and hospital that you know, mother put me in that
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: they'd always we're sticking to your head. So it's yeah,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: and I often wonder again, what's the end goal here?
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, what is the purpose? Yeah, I mean is
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: this human or is this non human? Because it's not
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: stopped and now you AI and then on top of that,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: you have, you know, under Trump, you know, you have
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: disclosure being taken place, whether it's full disclosure partial. It
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: seems like there's no other non terrestrials involved. It sounds
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: to me, and I don't want to take away from
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: the documentary, but it seems like this is a well
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: thought out program, a well purposed agenda. I just don't
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: know what the end is.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think that it is that it involves recruitment.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: I believe that it involves psychic abilities. I believe that
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: it just encompasses so much. It's not like I was mentioning,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: It's not just one thing. It's a multitude of things.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: And I think that the original well stated within the
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: document the Gifted and Talented Initiative documents that were started
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty eight by the Eisenhower administration. The original
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: goal was to find scientists and engineers and smart and
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: identify intellectually smart people that could be put into that
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: can essentially work for the government to keep up with Russia.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: That was the original goal. And then I think that
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: then morphed into not only working for the government, but
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: also in the private sector of companies and in corporations. Right, Like,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: if you can get to somebody at a really young age,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: you can then mold them and shape them and then
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: put them out there as a propaganda piece. You've seen
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: these people that just kind of pop up out of nowhere, right,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: you know, you've never seen them before, They just kind of.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Come up out of nowhere.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: You know that, Well, that can't be like being in
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: any uh work, you have to start from the essential,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: you know, Like you have to really grind hard to
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: get what you want if you're a normal individual, unless
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: you're propped up by the intelligence agencies and the government
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: and you're basically installed into that position, you know what
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I mean. Like, there are several bands and musicians that
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: have no beginnings. They didn't go around and play the
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: bars and go around to the places, you know, to
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: get that grassroots foundation. They just are. They're just there.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: They just somehow created the best freaking album that anybody
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: has ever heard their very first try.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: What are the odds? Right? Listen? We talked about nineteen
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: fifty eight with Eisenhower. So the story goes, and I
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: think this has been validated by his great his granddaughter Laura.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: So Eisenhower supposedly met the delegation, the galactic delegation out
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: there at White Sands and or wherever the hell it was,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, these programs start and
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of, you know, talking around the water cooler.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a connection. Did he see something
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: what he learned when there were God had more than
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: just humans created, They were actually variety, And now he's
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: we were implementing this project. And I believe this project
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: would have fallen under the military Industrial complex more than
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: a government program. They were needing the type of minds
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: for whatever future war, whatever future potential defense that we
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: may have needed against these It's just a thought. I mean,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: it's you know, there's a lot of different rabbit holes go,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: but I can't help but not think the timing is
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: very interesting.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can also install sleeper agents. Yeah,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: you know, because when you traumatize somebody like that and
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: you disassociate them, you can then program whatever it is
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: that you want into their mind and they won't remember.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's like the basis of what MK ultra
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: really was. So if you can do that, then you
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: can basically put in a bunch of sleeper agents. And
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: that really hurts the trail of any type of really
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: large conspiracy going on because you essentially don't.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Know, and problem becomes conspiracy because then everyone says, well,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: you guys are just but no, the problem is is
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: what six years of research that impersonal experiences comes in
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: and you're saying, no, no, no, no, it's it's you're
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: only paranoid if they're really out to kill you. In
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: other words, this ain't no conspiracy.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Well, the goal would be for the individual that you're
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: trying to groom mm hm, to not know that they're
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: being groomed. Yeah. Yeah, So they go out and live
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: their life and they do everything according to the agenda
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: and then they just don't know it. They think that
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: every thing happened to them organically. That's the real goal,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: because if you start to wake up to that, like
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I believe Charlie Kirk was starting to wake up to
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: that that his entire life was it a giant fraud. Well,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: not a fraud, but handed to him. It's a Truman
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: show for him. It was created for him. The opportunities
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: were given to him. Essentially.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: That's strange with him, very strange with him.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that he wasn't talented. He was obviously talented.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: No, but there were doors being opened that normally they
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: That wasn't normal. That's not typically how the political machine works.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: You're right in what your assumptions there were. It was
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: almost like it was prophesied, so when.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: You get through the quest Academy, opportunities will be given
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he was a tremendous orator. I mean, you
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: know very Reagan was an orator, you know.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: So I didn't I didn't mean, the same fraud that
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: just kind of slipped out. I don't believe that he
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: was a fraud, but that his life was orchestrated and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: handled by a small group of people. Oh yeah, is
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: I think they call them handlers, right, I think they do,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: because that's what it is. Uh, And yeah, you know,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: and boy, we could go on and for hours on
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: this because you know, it's it's it's all tied. So
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: the whole thing is, folks, get it. There's only limited DVDs.
• 1:00:44
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• 1:00:48
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• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: value to ninety nine to rent it, and what is
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: it five ninety nine to buy it? N nine? Which today?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: This is good and this is what third fourth documentary
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: now third third congratulations, congratulations. I like that because this
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: has got my mind. We're gonna have to get you
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: back on because this has We're in a time, in
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: an age where these truths are coming out and people
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: are you know, they're they're pretty smart. They can start
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: connecting the dots and what seems to be completely unassociated
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: over year actually has a direct line. You know. I
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: like how you use the metaphor, using kind of like
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: a colombo. You know, I'm putting it on the corkboard,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: and you know you're saying, well, that looks like a mess,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: and you're going you, no, you don't understand. It's actually
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: telling us exactly ill. And that's what I get a
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: sense of what we're actually here.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. That's how I felt when I was
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: putting it together. Somebody else that would have been looking
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: at it would have been like you got.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: A crazy man that makes sense, Like.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: This is a mess. What are you doing? This isn't
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: going to work. But I knew that it was because
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: I already had it all laid out. I like a
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: lot of times, like I I have dreams about it.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Like are you not maybe a product of this very
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: thing that you have documented? You ever thought about that?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I didn't go to public school.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I went to private school, private Christian school.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Can you tell me they wouldn't feel try a religious
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: organization that I mean just saying.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: They could have it. There were some really strange things
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: that happened to me when I was younger, Like I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: would see things when I was younger, and uh, my
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: parents ended up taking me to the doctor because they
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: thought something was wrong with my eyes. Uh, And the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: doctor gave me this flash card and it was it
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: had bulls eyes. There was like I had bulls eyes
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: in them, and there was three of them and the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: first one was like really clear, and then the second
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: one got kind of more blurry, and then the third
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: one got even more blurry. And the doctor told me,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: he said, uh, whenever you can make the bulls eyes
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: pop up off of the card, like become three D
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: off of the card, don't have three D goggles on.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: You got to turn this two D object into a
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: three D object with your mind, and you see it
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: pomp off off of the bulls eyes come on off
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: of the card and come back and see me. I
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: worked on it for a really long time and I
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: was finally able to do it, and then I told
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: my parents and then they just never took me back
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: to the doctor, which I don't know if if that
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: was a but I could probably recreate the card now
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: I remember exactly what it looked like. But yeah, that
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: was kind of my strange And of course I was
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: I knew things when I was a child, Like I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: felt like that I could tell you you know what
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: was going on. I could say what the next song
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: on the radio was going to be before it came on.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I'm no expert, for brother, it kind of thinks that
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: you think I could fit in the profile.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't remember any any other strange type
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: of things really going on other than that.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: So but at least that that you do remember, Yeah,
• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:21
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• 1:05:29
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• 1:05:35
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• 1:05:37
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow with Mike and Cindy and my mind is re
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: links there, so peace out, everybody. Much love to you.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: We will talk to you tomorrow. Thank you again. Rder
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: appreciate your brother.