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Unlocking Bone Health: The Power of Vitamin K2 for Osteoporosis... · Revealing Wholeness with Dr.Troy

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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome. I'm doctor Troy. This is an interesting
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Speaker 3: article that I just received across my desk on seven
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Speaker 3: warning signs of osteoporosis. Now, I'm going to tell you
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Speaker 3: that a lot of it was pretty obvious, but I
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Speaker 3: found one that was quite fascinating, and so I want
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Speaker 3: to share that today. Of course, the obvious things are,
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Speaker 3: you know, early warning signs they gave were low bone density.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, that's kind of isn't that like the
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Speaker 3: definition of osteoporosis? Do you really have to tell us
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Speaker 3: that low bone density and a DEXA scan. I think
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Speaker 3: maybe they're trying to sell DEXI scans. I'm just not sure.
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Speaker 3: But for most of you out there, if you're wondering
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Speaker 3: what a DEXIS scan is, you really don't want to
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Speaker 3: know the name though. It is dual energy X ray
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Speaker 3: absorp geometry, and so what it's talking about is how
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Speaker 3: well your bones absorb the X ray and how little
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Speaker 3: they get through or the X rays get through. The
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Speaker 3: more densure bones are, the less X ray gets through.
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Speaker 3: And so they have this DEXA scan. And for most
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Speaker 3: women of average build, that's what the DEXA scan is for.
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Speaker 3: If you're of slight build or a thin woman, you
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Speaker 3: could even be tall but be thin, and your DEXA
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Speaker 3: scan is going to come up almost always low, and
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Speaker 3: they're going to tell you, hey, you'r osteopenic, meaning you
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Speaker 3: have low bone density, or your full on osteoporosis, you
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Speaker 3: have some serious issues. So with slight women, you actually
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Speaker 3: have to read your dexis scan a little bit different
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Speaker 3: those of you out there that are like, hey, I
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Speaker 3: really want to increase my bone density. This is for you.
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Speaker 3: So let's just talk about some of these warning signs.
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Speaker 3: They talked about decreased grip strength, and I'm thinking, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I think some women would say, hey, I've experienced some
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Speaker 3: decreased grip strength, But I think you talk to men too,
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Speaker 3: and they'd say, hey, my grip strength has been waning
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Speaker 3: too as I get older. Maybe I'm just getting weaker,
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Speaker 3: and we might consider that, but also maybe how our
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Speaker 3: body uses our muscles and how we use calcium, and
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Speaker 3: if thinning bones and calcium go together, I would say
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Speaker 3: it's something that even as guys, we should be looking
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Speaker 3: at how good is our grip strength? Later warning signals,
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Speaker 3: of course low back pain. But this was a fascinating one.
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Speaker 3: Besides the stew posture loss of height, they pulled this
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Speaker 3: one in which is something I'd never heard of. It's
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Speaker 3: called pelvic crush. And for those of you that have
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Speaker 3: heard of it, well kudos to you, But for myself,
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Speaker 3: I had not heard the term. And so what they
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Speaker 3: say is that you should be able to stick three
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Speaker 3: fingers in on top of your hips on the side
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Speaker 3: of your on your sides, you can feel your hip bones.
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Speaker 3: You should be able to stick three fingers or almost
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Speaker 3: three fingers in there and not be able to hit
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Speaker 3: the lower ribs. If you cannot, then now you have
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Speaker 3: this decreased height of vertebra and disks that are collapsing,
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Speaker 3: and thus you cannot stick roughly three fingers in between
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Speaker 3: your hip bones and your ribs on the sides of
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Speaker 3: your body. And so you might try that just to
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Speaker 3: see how you feel like you're doing osteoporosis wise. Of course,
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Speaker 3: some of the more silly things that are just obvious
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Speaker 3: is a fracture. You're walking down the road and you
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Speaker 3: have a fracture, or you break something, you have some
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Speaker 3: serious osteoporosis. Now, what I found comical was how they
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Speaker 3: told to I guess, stop it or prevent it. Don't smoke.
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Speaker 3: So I got it. So let's say you're already in
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Speaker 3: your latter years and you're thinking, gosh, I guess I
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Speaker 3: should have stopped smoking some time ago. And of course
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Speaker 3: feed your bones. I'm thinking, really, you're just gonna mention
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Speaker 3: get enough calcium, but not kind of what kind, or
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Speaker 3: if it's good or whatever. And then the course says
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Speaker 3: vitamin D, and of course if you take too much
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Speaker 3: vitamin D that's not okay. You have to have a
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Speaker 3: lot of other things that go into how your body
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Speaker 3: puts calcium back into your bones and repairs your bones.
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Speaker 3: So I mean they, of course the recommended a balanced diet. Hey,
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Speaker 3: please do these things. I think it's kind of funny.
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Speaker 3: Fruit and vegetables and whole grains where the top three poultry, fish, nuts, legumes,
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Speaker 3: and dairy would be your best source for bone health,
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Speaker 3: and then of course exercise, which they would also push,
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Speaker 3: and staying a healthy weight BMI below nineteen consider HRT
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Speaker 3: ladies hormone replacement therapy. I just thought, really have we
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Speaker 3: not beat that one up and said, that's probably not
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Speaker 3: a great idea. But for those of you out there
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Speaker 3: that have not heard, we don't like to do unopposed
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Speaker 3: any kind of hormones. We want them in a good
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Speaker 3: ratio in your body. And who better to determine what
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Speaker 3: your body needs than your own organ systems. So the
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Speaker 3: question then begins, well, how do I know if I'm
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Speaker 3: producing the right hormones in my body? Well, that is
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Speaker 3: going to go or at least be responsible by or responsive.
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Speaker 3: Buy is your glands and your hormones. And they need
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Speaker 3: lots of trace minerals. So we can take a calcium supplement,
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Speaker 3: we could do a multi vitamin, but they're not going
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Speaker 3: to have a lot of great available trace minerals. So
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Speaker 3: where do we get trace minerals? Where do we get
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Speaker 3: these phytonutrients that are so important to us? We look
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Speaker 3: for foods that appear to be whole, and when I
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Speaker 3: say it, peer, let's look at eggs for a moment.
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Speaker 3: I've beat up eggs time and time again. Eggs. You
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Speaker 3: have an egg that sits under a chicken and it
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Speaker 3: turns into a baby chicken. Does a baby chicken have bones? Yes?
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Speaker 3: Does a baby chicken have liver? Yes? Heart, check brain,
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Speaker 3: it's small, but check blood vessels check? Does it have
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Speaker 3: hormone glands? Check, it's got a pancreas, it's got a hypothalamus,
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Speaker 3: a pituitary, adrenals. It has everything you and I have too.
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Speaker 3: So where do we think all of that tissue got
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Speaker 3: made from. It didn't just miraculously appear inside the egg.
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Speaker 3: It took it from the yolk. And if the chicken
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Speaker 3: is well fed and eats a very eclectic diet, meaning
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Speaker 3: it can peck around and eat insects and vegetables and
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Speaker 3: lettuce and leaves and whatever it finds, and grass, then
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Speaker 3: we have an animal that is very nutrient dense, and
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Speaker 3: thus the eggs are nutrient dense. That would be something
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Speaker 3: to put in your body. If we look inside the
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Speaker 3: body and say, is there a place where the most
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Speaker 3: nutrients are stored in any animal? Look no further than
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Speaker 3: the liver. So liver and eggs would be an amazing
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Speaker 3: thing to be eating that would get you through quite
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Speaker 3: well most of your life, way better than McDonald's or
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Speaker 3: anything else that you could be eating. So for a
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Speaker 3: good diet, those are things we look at. And now
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Speaker 3: the last thing that they mentioned was drink alcohol and moderation.
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Speaker 3: That's how you prevent osteoporosis. So now let's go back
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Speaker 3: to the real world and let's talk about what can
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Speaker 3: we really do if we're now postman apostle, or we're
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Speaker 3: a man that is after the age of fifty, and
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Speaker 3: we find that our bones are actually beginning to thin. Hey,
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Speaker 3: I'm having some of those symptoms that you talked about,
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Speaker 3: and I'm wondering if I might be osteoporota product, And
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Speaker 3: what do I do? How did I get there in
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Speaker 3: the first place. Well, the major thing with osteoporosis is
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Speaker 3: that you likely have been overdoing sugar your entire life,
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Speaker 3: way too much carbs, way too much bread, eating the
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Speaker 3: americanized food pyramid that is completely bent on causing diabetes
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Speaker 3: and osteoporosis and heart disease and cancer, to name a few.
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Speaker 3: So if we reject all those things that they tried
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Speaker 3: to tell us to do, because the big food industries
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Speaker 3: would like to sell all of their refined food products
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Speaker 3: and make you believe that Hamburger Helper is going to
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Speaker 3: do very well for you. Yeah, I think we can
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Speaker 3: actually say I think that's a bad idea. So as
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Speaker 3: we begin to now look at this side of the
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Speaker 3: coin where we're actually already osteopenic or osteoporotic, and we're
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Speaker 3: wondering what can I do. So listen up, because this
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Speaker 3: is an excellent article. I just came across and I
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Speaker 3: was talking with a couple in my office and I said,
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Speaker 3: let's just punch it in Vitamin K two and postmenopausal osteoporosis.
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Speaker 3: So this is in the journal Nutrients Into twenty fourteen
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Speaker 3: May sixteen. You can look this up on PubMed and
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Speaker 3: all you have to do is type in Vitamin K
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Speaker 3: two therapy for postmenopausal osteoporosis. It's by jun Iowama or Eomoto,
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Speaker 3: sorry Eomoto or Eamoto Ewamoto Ewamoto. That's probably pretty close.
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Speaker 3: And as we go down it does a great job
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Speaker 3: of explaining the article and how much K two that
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Speaker 3: they did. If you have been around my podcast, you
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Speaker 3: know that I just did a five part series on
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Speaker 3: K two. If you want, you can go check it out.
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Speaker 3: It digs into the nitty gritty of it, but just
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Speaker 3: for the sake of argument, believing that you at least
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Speaker 3: have some idea of what K two is. It is
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Speaker 3: menequin one, and there's menequinone four and menquinone seven. Those
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Speaker 3: are the two majors that you'll find out there on
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Speaker 3: the market. There is menequinone four through mediquinone fifteen if
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Speaker 3: you just want to know. And so philiquinone is K one.
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Speaker 3: So those of you out there thinking, hey, isn't that
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Speaker 3: bad for I'm on a blood thinner, I don't think
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Speaker 3: I can do K two. K one is what you
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Speaker 3: want to avoid on a blood thinner, and that is filiquinone.
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Speaker 3: Animals eat grass, which is filiquinone or K one in
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Speaker 3: the grass and they turn that filiquinone into meniquinone, which
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Speaker 3: then helps put calcium into bones, but also help with
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Speaker 3: with tissues that are calcifying. Those people that get cataracts
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Speaker 3: or wrinkles or heart disease or plaquing in your arteries,
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Speaker 3: or kidney stones or sore muscles or stiff joints or arthritis,
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Speaker 3: these are all part of calcium being deposited into tissues
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Speaker 3: when it should not be. And so if we start
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Speaker 3: taking MK four Mk seven, we begin to shift that
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Speaker 3: calcium being deposited in our joints, in our eyes, in
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Speaker 3: our kidneys, in our blood vessels, everywhere we don't want it.
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Speaker 3: And now we begin to direct it back to the
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Speaker 3: bone and begin to correct osteops. So they talk about
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Speaker 3: how much. Now this was pretty cool because I'll do
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Speaker 3: doses of forty five thousand micrograms of MK four and
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Speaker 3: that's a decent sized dose. But they were doing forty
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Speaker 3: five thousand. They were doing ninety thousand and one hundred
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Speaker 3: and thirty five thousand micrograms of MK four. I thought, wow,
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Speaker 3: those are some serious dosages. And so most of us,
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Speaker 3: if we have really good bacteria in our gut and
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Speaker 3: we haven't had any antibiotics, and we eat fermented foods,
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Speaker 3: you're producing MK seven in your gut. So you're getting
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Speaker 3: a little bit of K two in your gut. Is
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Speaker 3: it a lot? No? Could you do more? Yes? You could,
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Speaker 3: and if you're osteoporotic, you definitely want to do more.
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Speaker 3: But this particular article, so they were doing some pretty
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Speaker 3: substantial things. And what they found is that the first
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Speaker 3: threshold was getting at least forty five thousand micrograms of
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Speaker 3: MK four in So MK four comes from the leaves
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Speaker 3: of tobacco, so they can harvest it from that and
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Speaker 3: it's good. It's not like it's bad. The research is out.
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Speaker 3: You can use that. If you have butter from a
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Speaker 3: truly grass fed cow, and you're eating the cows and
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Speaker 3: their grass fed and they don't have a lot of
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Speaker 3: dry food, they're mostly wet food they call it, then
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Speaker 3: you're going to have an animal it has a lot
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Speaker 3: of MK four in it naturally. So if you're eating
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Speaker 3: that fat of that animal, or drinking the milk, or
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Speaker 3: you know, whatever you're doing eating the meat that would
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Speaker 3: have fat in it, you're getting that MK four. But
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Speaker 3: you need to do that fairly regularly because MK four
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Speaker 3: doesn't last long in the body. MK seven lasts a
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Speaker 3: long time. I know this may be more than you
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Speaker 3: want to know about vitamin K two, and I'll get
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Speaker 3: to this article in a moment. But as you hear
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Speaker 3: these things, you'll hear people talking about this. You'll say, hey,
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Speaker 3: I remember hearing something about that. I'm not sure when
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Speaker 3: I want to use MK four MK seven, but I
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Speaker 3: think they're okay to do to get and they are
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Speaker 3: so most of the time with most of my clients,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to do an MK seven product. With those
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Speaker 3: that have certain conditions, I'm going to choose an MK
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Speaker 3: four and I'm going to do high doses. And so
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Speaker 3: with this particular article, it actually changed a little bit
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Speaker 3: how I'm going to administer those particular supplements, because instead
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Speaker 3: of doing it once a day, which I've read on
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Speaker 3: many articles is great, this one seemed to say that, hey,
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Speaker 3: at least the minimum of forty five thousand was great,
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Speaker 3: but ninety was way better, and splitting that dose morning
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Speaker 3: and night is excellent. So there you go. So if
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Speaker 3: you're thinking, man, I got a lot of osteoporosis. My
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Speaker 3: doctor diagnosed me and he gave me some crappy calcium
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Speaker 3: that makes my gut really hurt and screws up my digestion,
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Speaker 3: then you'll want to actually have a conversation with me,
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Speaker 3: and I'd recommend that you call my office and let's
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Speaker 3: put a program together for you that makes more sense
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Speaker 3: and actually can rebuild the body. But for those of
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Speaker 3: you out there that like cany I think I can
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Speaker 3: do this on my own, great MK four forty five thousand.
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Speaker 3: You know, MicroG is what you're looking for, and there's
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Speaker 3: some products out there. Now, this is what they did.
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Speaker 3: So they did measurements. They did measurements on arms, on femurs,
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Speaker 3: on hips, on all kinds of things. So here's some
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Speaker 3: of the fascinating oh before and afters now. I will
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Speaker 3: tell you that this article they pulled from other articles
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Speaker 3: that did one to three years on vitamin K two.
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Speaker 3: Why so long? It takes time for the bone to
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Speaker 3: remodel and heal. Bones don't heal as fast as we think.
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Speaker 3: They're one of the slowest systems in the body. So
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Speaker 3: that we'll have an entirely new skeletal system at least
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Speaker 3: that's what I've been told by scientific research in about
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Speaker 3: seven years. So in this one to three years, what
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Speaker 3: they noticed is that the lumbar spine bone density loss
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Speaker 3: was mitigated or mitigated, decreased, or slowed to a loss
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Speaker 3: of zero point five percent in that two year period,
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Speaker 3: compared to non tree who lost three point three percent.
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Speaker 3: So the control groups that didn't take any vitamin K
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Speaker 3: two they lost three point three percent. Those that just
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Speaker 3: took the mk MK four at forty five thousand micrograms,
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Speaker 3: they slowed it to point five percent in that two years,
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Speaker 3: which you're thinking, hey, they slowed it down, that's substantial.
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Speaker 3: Now another group they did forty five thousand micrograms, and
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Speaker 3: what they did is they actually maintained but they actually
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Speaker 3: increased zero point nine percent, almost one percent bone density.
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Speaker 3: They compared it to a group that just did calcium.
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Speaker 3: Calcium still lost, but didn't lose like the other group
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Speaker 3: at three point three percent lost point eight percent over
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Speaker 3: that two year period, so calcium alone didn't do it.
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Speaker 3: Then they did the distal radius. So the distal radius
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Speaker 3: is an arm bone that is the one right by
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Speaker 3: your wrist, So we have two bones by your wrist,
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Speaker 3: just above your wrist towards your elbow. So this particular bone,
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Speaker 3: when they did two years at forty five micrograms, they
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Speaker 3: only lost point one percent, so it basically maintained bone density.
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Speaker 3: Calcium group that just took calcium still lost one point
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Speaker 3: seven So it'd be nice if they said, hey, we
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Speaker 3: have a third group here that didn't do calcium or anything.
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Speaker 3: But since we have the first one, we're just going
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Speaker 3: to assume that it's much like this first group. So
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Speaker 3: let's say the first group that lost three point three percent,
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Speaker 3: the calcium group only lost one point seven percent, So
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Speaker 3: it was somewhat of a better outcome than doing nothing,
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Speaker 3: So at least we can take that. Now, this was interesting. Now,
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Speaker 3: the lumbar spine in this particular group or or or
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Speaker 3: article that they reviewed, they checked the lumbar spine and
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Speaker 3: it increased bone density by one point three seven percent.
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Speaker 3: The non treatment group lost four percent over two years.
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Speaker 3: So that's anchel. I'm thinking, wow, go K two, because
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Speaker 3: here we have you know, if our bone peaks at
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Speaker 3: between age twenty five and thirty and after that, we're
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Speaker 3: pretty much not doing real good in our bones after that.
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Speaker 3: But here they're showing that even menopausal women able to
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Speaker 3: do forty five micrograms it's probably a single dose of
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Speaker 3: MK set or MK four, they're able to increase bone
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Speaker 3: density by one point three seven percent over two years.
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Speaker 3: That's that's significant, my friends. I mean, if that alone
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Speaker 3: would be like, I'm sold. And so they did another
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Speaker 3: group here where they check the distal radius again and
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Speaker 3: loss mitigated, but they only noted a one point nine
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Speaker 3: percent loss and a non treatment group was again at
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Speaker 3: three point three percent, So they showed that, hey, it
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Speaker 3: didn't actually improve the bone density in the distal radius,
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Speaker 3: but it did almost half the loss that the non group,
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Speaker 3: you know, the group that didn't take MK four at all.
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Speaker 3: And so these are kind of the things that I
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Speaker 3: was reading. So here's another one where it was one
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Speaker 3: point seven percent increase. The placebo group that did nothing
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Speaker 3: lost point two percent. So I mean that's not bad,
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Speaker 3: but again to actually increase was it was impressive. So
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Speaker 3: if you're looking to do something for your osteoporosis, I
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Speaker 3: would say, look, no further, what I would consider doing
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Speaker 3: with most folks is I would consider doing that forty
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Speaker 3: five thousand, morning and night. What the reason they use
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Speaker 3: an MK four? Just so you know, so you have
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Speaker 3: at least some understanding. There are half LIFs in certain vitamins, minerals,
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Speaker 3: not minerals so much, but hormones especially, And we consider
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Speaker 3: vitamin K two as a pre hormone because it is
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Speaker 3: very closely related related to hormones. It activates two really
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Speaker 3: important hormones that make the bones increase their calcium absorption.
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Speaker 3: And so those two hormones that they activate are what
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Speaker 3: really push it. So it's kind of like a hormone
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Speaker 3: activating a hormone, so we call vitamin K to a
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Speaker 3: pre hormone. Well, hormones in the blood have a half life.
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Speaker 3: They don't want to sit there and just continually stimulate
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Speaker 3: the body. That's not their design. So the moment that
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Speaker 3: most of our hormones are active in our body, the
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Speaker 3: half life is like an hour and a half to
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Speaker 3: two and a half hours. That means that whatever was
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Speaker 3: activated in two two and a half hours, half of
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Speaker 3: all that hormone is out of your blood, and in
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Speaker 3: two more hours half of the rest is out of
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Speaker 3: your blood, and in two more hours half of what
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Speaker 3: it was left is out of your blood. So our
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Speaker 3: body is continually pulling these hormones out of the system.
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Speaker 3: So MK four is half life is two hours. MK
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Speaker 3: seven is fifty hours. So you might think, well MK
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Speaker 3: seven sounds better. They're not better or worse, they're just different.
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Speaker 3: So we do small doses of MK seven, like right
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Speaker 3: around the two fifty to five hundred microgram dose of
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Speaker 3: MK seven MK four, because it's half life is two hours,
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Speaker 3: we do big doses of that. But it seems to
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Speaker 3: be more targeted towards tissue, which even help in things
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Speaker 3: like heart disease or plaquing in the arteries. So there's
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Speaker 3: different things that will use the MK seven and the
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Speaker 3: MK four four. So at least you have a little
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Speaker 3: understanding about our targeting of why we use one over
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Speaker 3: the other, because there's just a little bit different there.
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Speaker 3: So these particular articles they use, these short half life
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Speaker 3: MK four and I would recommend doing a single dose
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Speaker 3: morning and night. And they're very tiny pills because if
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Speaker 3: you think about forty five milligrams, which is forty five
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Speaker 3: thousand microgram, that's a pretty tiny amount and it doesn't
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Speaker 3: take much. And so if you're going to add something
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Speaker 3: like a good calcium with your program, expect to see results.
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Speaker 3: I would say between the four and six month mark.
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Speaker 3: It's going to take some time to get that going
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Speaker 3: in the right direction. But I think as you do
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Speaker 3: something like a decent calcium, much like a calcium lactate
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Speaker 3: or something that is a whole bone food that comes
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Speaker 3: directly from processing a cow, great. We have chewables in
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Speaker 3: the office that are like that, and so I use those,
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Speaker 3: and I use both even at the same time, depending
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Speaker 3: on who I'm working with. If we're targeting bone resorption specifically,
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Speaker 3: so there are good products out there. If you're looking
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Speaker 3: to do some work that way. I'd love to hear
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Speaker 3: from you. Shoot me an email, shoot me a text,
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Speaker 3: call the office, make an appointment to have a phone
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Speaker 3: conference with me. Whatever you would like is easy to do.
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Speaker 3: I have clients all over the US. So until next time,
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Speaker 3: I hope this was helpful and kind of shed some
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Speaker 3: light on that possibility and kind of alleviated some fears
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Speaker 3: and some anxiety around bone loss and osteoporosis for both
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Speaker 3: men and women. It's not just women that have this,
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Speaker 3: but men too. So until next time, I'm doctor Troy,
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Speaker 3: and remember there is way more right with you than
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Speaker 3: there is wrong with you.
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