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DJT Audio Archive: Presidential Debate vs Hillary Clinton - Round 2 - St. Louis, Missouri (October 9, 2016) · Real Donald Trump Wisdom

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  Thank you very much for being here. We're going
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  to begin with a question from one of the members
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  in our town hall. Each of you will have two minutes
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  to respond to this question. Secretary Clinton,
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  you won the coin toss, so you'll go first. Our
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  first question comes from Patrice Brock. Patrice.
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  Thank you and good evening. The last presidential
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  debate could have been. Rated as ma mature audiences
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  per TV parental guidelines knowing the educators
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  assigned viewing the presidential debates of
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  students homework Do you feel you're modeling
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  appropriate and positive behavior for today's
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  youth? Well, thank you. Are you a teacher? Yes,
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  I think that that's a very good question because
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  I've heard from lots of teachers and parents
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  about some of their concerns about Some of the
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  things that are being said and done in this campaign.
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  And I think it is very important for us to make
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  clear to our children that our country really
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  is great because we're good. And we are going
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  to respect one another, lift each other up. We
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  are going to be looking for ways to celebrate
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  our diversity. And we are going to try to reach
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  out to every boy and girl as well as every adult.
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  to bring them in to working on behalf of our
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  country. I have a very positive and optimistic
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  view about what we can do together. That's why
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  the slogan of my campaign is Stronger Together.
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  Because I think if we work together... If we
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  overcome the divisiveness that sometimes sets
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  Americans against one another, and instead we
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  make some big goals, and I've set forth some
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  big goals, getting the economy to work for everyone,
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  not just those at the top, making sure that we
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  have the best education system from preschool
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  through college, and making it affordable, and
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  so much else. If we set those goals and we go
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  together to try to achieve them, there's nothing,
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  in my opinion. that America can't do. So that's
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  why I hope that we will come together in this
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  campaign. Obviously, I'm hoping to earn your
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  vote. I'm hoping to be elected in November. And
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  I can promise you, I will work with every American.
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  I want to be the president for all Americans,
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  regardless of your political beliefs, where you
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  come from, what you look like, your religion.
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  I want us to heal our country and bring it together.
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  because that's i think the best way for us to
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  get the future that our children and our grandchildren
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  deserve secretary clinton thank you mr trump
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  you have two minutes well i actually agree with
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  that i agree with everything she said i began
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  this campaign because i was so tired of seeing
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  such foolish things happen to our country this
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  is a great country this is a great land i've
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  gotten to know the people of the country over
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  the last year and a half that i've been doing
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  this as a politician i cannot believe i'm saying
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  that about myself but i guess i have been a politician
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  and my whole concept was to make america great
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  again when i watch the deals being made when
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  i watch what's happening with some horrible things
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  like obamacare where your health insurance and
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  health care is going up by numbers that are astronomical
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  68 59 71 When I look at the Iran deal and how
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  bad a deal it is for us, it's a one -sided transaction
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  where we're giving back $150 billion to a terrorist
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  state, really the number one terrorist state.
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  We've made them a strong country from really
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  a very weak country just three years ago. When
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  I look at all of the things that I see and all
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  of the potential that our country has, we have
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  such tremendous potential, whether it's in business
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  and trade where we're doing so badly. Last year,
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  we had an almost $800 billion trade deficit.
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  In other words, trading with other countries,
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  we had an $800 billion deficit. It's hard to
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  believe. Inconceivable. You say, who's making
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  these deals? We're going to make great trade
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  deals. We're going to have a strong border. We're
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  going to bring back law and order. Just today,
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  policemen were shot, two killed. And this is
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  happening on a weekly basis. We have to bring
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  back. respect to law enforcement. At the same
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  time, we have to take care of people on all sides.
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  We need justice. But I want to do things that
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  haven't been done, including fixing and making
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  our inner cities better for the African -American
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  citizens that are so great and for the Latinos,
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  Hispanics. And I look forward to doing it. It's
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  called Make America Great Again. Thank you, Mr.
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  Trump. The question from Patrice was about, are
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  you both modeling positive and appropriate behaviors
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  for today's youth? We received a lot of questions
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  online, Mr. Trump, about the tape that was released
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  on Friday, as you can imagine. You called what
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  you said locker room banter. You described kissing
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  women without consent, grabbing their genitals.
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  That is sexual assault. You bragged that you
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  have sexually assaulted women. Do you understand
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  that? No, I didn't say that at all. I don't think
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  you understood what was said. This was locker
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  room talk. I'm not proud of it. I apologize to
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  my family. I apologize to the American people.
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  Certainly, I'm not proud of it. But this is locker
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  room talk. You know, when we have a world where
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  you have ISIS chopping off heads, where you have,
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  and frankly, drowning people in steel cages,
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  where you have wars and horrible, horrible sights
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  all over, where you have so many bad things happening.
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  This is like medieval times. We haven't seen
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  anything like this, the carnage all over the
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  world. And they look and they see. Can you imagine
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  the people? that are, frankly, doing so well
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  against us with ISIS. And they look at our country
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  and they see what's going on. Yes, I'm very embarrassed
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  by it. I hate it. But it's locker room talk.
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  And it's one of those things. I will knock the
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  hell out of ISIS. We're going to defeat ISIS.
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  ISIS happened a number of years ago in a vacuum
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  that was left because of bad judgment. And I
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  will tell you, I will take care of ISIS. And
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  we should get on to much more. important things
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  and much bigger things. Just for the record,
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  though, are you saying that what you said on
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  that bus 11 years ago, that you did not actually
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  kiss women without consent or grope women without
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  consent? I have great respect for women. Nobody
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  has more respect for women than I do. So for
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  the record, you're saying you never did that?
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  I said things that, frankly, you hear these things
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  are said. And I was embarrassed by it, but I
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  have tremendous respect for women. Have you ever
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  done those things? And women have respect for
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  me. And I will tell you, no, I have not. And
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  I will tell you that I'm going to make our country
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  safe. We're going to have borders on our country,
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  which we don't have now. People are pouring into
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  our country and they're coming in from the Middle
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  East and other places. We're going to make America
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  safe again. We're going to make America great
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  again, but we're going to make America safe again.
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  And we're going to make America wealthy again,
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  because if you don't do that. It just sounds
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  harsh to say, but we have to build up the wealth
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  of our nation. Thank you, Mr. Trump. Right now,
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  other nations are taking our jobs and they're
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  taking our wealth. Thank you, Mr. Trump. And
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  that's what I want to talk about. Secretary Clinton,
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  do you want to respond? Well, like everyone else,
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  I've spent a lot of time thinking over the last
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  48 hours about what we heard and saw. You know,
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  with prior Republican nominees for president,
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  I disagreed with them. politics policies principles
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  but i never questioned their fitness to serve
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  donald trump is different i said starting back
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  in june that he was not fit to be president and
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  commander -in -chief and many republicans and
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  independents have said the same thing what we
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  all saw and heard on friday was donald talking
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  about women what he thinks about women what he
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  does to women. And he has said that the video
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  doesn't represent who he is. But I think it's
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  clear to anyone who heard it that it represents
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  exactly who he is. Because we've seen this throughout
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  the campaign. We have seen him insult women.
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  We've seen him rate women on their appearance,
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  ranking them from 1 to 10. We've seen him embarrass
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  women on TV and on Twitter. We saw him, after
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  the first debate, spend nearly a week denigrating
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  a former Miss Universe in the harshest, most
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  personal terms. So, yes, this is who Donald Trump
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  is. But it's not only women, and it's not only
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  this video that raises questions about his fitness
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  to be our president, immigrants, African Americans,
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  Latinos, people with disabilities, POWs, Muslims,
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  and so many others. So this is who Donald Trump
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  is. And the question for us, the question our
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  country must answer, is that this is not who
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  we are. That's why, to go back to your question,
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  I want to send a message, we all should, to every
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  boy and girl, and indeed to the entire world.
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  That America already is great, but we are great
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  because we are good. And we will respect one
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  another. And we will work with one another. And
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  we will celebrate our diversity. These are very
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  important values to me because this is the America
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  that I know and love. And I can pledge to you
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  tonight that this is the America that I will
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  serve if I'm so fortunate enough to become your
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  president. And we want to get to some questions
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  from online. Well, am I allowed to respond to
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  that? I assume I am. Yes, you can respond to
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  that. It's just words, folks. It's just words.
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  Those words, I've been hearing them for many
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  years. I heard them when they were running for
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  the Senate in New York, where Hillary was going
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  to bring back jobs to upstate New York, and she
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  failed. I've heard them where Hillary is constantly
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  talking about the inner cities of our country,
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  which are a disaster. education -wise, job -wise,
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  safety -wise, in every way possible. I'm going
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  to help the African -Americans. I'm going to
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  help the Latinos, Hispanics. I am going to help
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  the inner cities. She's done a terrible job for
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  the African -Americans. She wants their vote,
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  and she does nothing. And then she comes back
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  four years later. We saw that firsthand when
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  she was a United States senator. She campaigned.
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  Mr. Trump, I want to get to audience questions
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  and online questions. So she's allowed to do
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  that, but I'm not allowed to respond. You're
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  going to get to respond right now. That sounds
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  fair. This tape is generating intense interest.
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  In just 48 hours, it's become the single most
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  talked about story of the entire 2016 election
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  on Facebook, with millions and millions of people
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  discussing it on the social network. As we said
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  a moment ago, we do want to bring in questions
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  from voters around the country via social media.
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  And our first stays on this topic. Jeff from
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  Ohio asks on Facebook, Trump says the campaign
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  has changed him. When did that happen? So, Mr.
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  Trump, let me add to that. When you walked off
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  that bus at age 59, were you a different man
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  or did that behavior continue until just recently?
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  And you have two minutes for this. As I told
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  you, that was locker room talk. I'm not proud
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  of it. I am a person who has great respect for
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  people, for my family, for the people of this
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  country. And certainly I'm not proud of it. But
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  that was something that happened. If you look
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  at Bill Clinton, far worse, minor words, and
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  his was action. His was what he's done to women.
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  There's never been anybody in the history of
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  politics in this nation that's been so abusive
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  to women so you can say any way you want to say
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  it but bill clinton was abusive to women hillary
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  clinton attacked those same women and attacked
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  them viciously four of them here tonight one
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  of the women who is a wonderful woman at 12 years
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  old was raped at 12. her client she represented
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  got him off And she's seen laughing on two separate
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  occasions, laughing at the girl who was raped.
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  Kathy Shelton, that young woman, is here with
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  us tonight. So don't tell me about words. I am
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  absolutely, I apologize for those words. But
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  it is things that people say. But what President
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  Clinton did, he was impeached. He lost his license
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  to practice law. He had to pay an $850 ,000.
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  dollar fine to one of the women paula jones who's
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  also here tonight and i will tell you that when
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  hillary brings up a point like that and she talks
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  about words that i said 11 years ago i think
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  it's disgraceful and i think she should be ashamed
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  of herself if you want to know the truth can
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  we please hold the applause secretary clinton
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  you have two minutes well first let me start
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  by saying That's so much of what he's just said
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  is not right. But he gets to run his campaign
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  any way he chooses. He gets to decide what he
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  wants to talk about. Instead of answering people's
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  questions, talking about our agenda, laying out
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  the plans that we have that we think can make
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  a better life and a better country, that's his
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  choice. When I hear something like that, I am
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  reminded of what my friend Michelle Obama advised
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  us all. When they go low, you go high look if
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  this were just about one video maybe what he's
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  saying tonight would be understandable but everyone
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  can draw their own conclusions at this point
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  about whether or not the man in the video or
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  the man on the stage respects women but he never
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  apologizes for anything to anyone he never apologized
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  to mr and mrs khan the gold star family whose
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  son, Captain Khan, died in the line of duty in
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  Iraq. And Donald insulted and attacked them for
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  weeks over their religion. He never apologized
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  to the distinguished federal judge who was born
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  in Indiana. But Donald said he couldn't be trusted
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  to be a judge because his parents were, quote,
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  Mexican. He never apologized to the reporter.
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  that he mimicked and mocked on national television
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  and our children were watching. And he never
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  apologized for the racist lie that President
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  Obama was not born in the United States of America.
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  He owes the president an apology. He owes our
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  country an apology. And he needs to take responsibility
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  for his actions and his words. Well, you owe
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  the president an apology because, as you know
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  very well, uh your campaign sydney blumenthal
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  he's another real winner that you have and he's
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  the one that got this started along with your
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  campaign manager and they were on television
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  just two weeks ago she was saying exactly that
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  so you really owe him an apology you're the one
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  that sent the pictures around your campaign sent
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  the pictures around with president obama in a
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  certain garb that was long before i was ever
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  involved so you actually owe an apology number
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  two michelle obama i've gotten to see the commercials
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  that they did on you and i've gotten to see some
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  of the most vicious commercials i've ever seen
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  of michelle obama talking about you hillary so
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  you talk about friend go back and take a look
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  at those commercials a race where you lost fair
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  and square unlike the bernie sanders race where
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  you won but not fair and square in my opinion
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  And all you have to do is take a look at WikiLeaks
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  and just see what they said about Bernie Sanders
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  and see what Deborah Wasserman Schultz had in
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  mind. Because Bernie Sanders, between superdelegates
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  and Deborah Wasserman Schultz, he never had a
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  chance. And I was so surprised to see him sign
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  on with the devil. But when you talk about apology,
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  I think the one that you should really be apologizing
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  for and the thing that you should be apologizing
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  for are the 33 ,000 emails that you deleted.
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  and that you acid washed and then the two boxes
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  of emails and other things last week that were
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  taken from an office and are now missing and
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  i'll tell you what i didn't think i'd say this
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  but i'm going to say it and i hate to say it
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  but if i win i am going to instruct my attorney
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  general to get a special prosecutor to look into
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  your situation because there has never been so
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  many lies so much deception there has never been
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  anything like it and we're going to have a special
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  prosecutor when i speak i go out and speak the
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  people of this country are furious in my opinion
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  the people that have been long -term workers
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  at the fbi are furious there has never been anything
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  like this where emails and you get a subpoena
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  you get a subpoena and after getting the subpoena
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  you delete 33 000 emails and then you acid wash
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  them or bleach them as you would say a very expensive
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  process So we're going to get a special prosecutor,
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  and we're going to look into it. Because you
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  know what? People have been, their lives have
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  been destroyed for doing one -fifth of what you've
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  done. And it's a disgrace. And honestly, you
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  ought to be ashamed of yourself. Secretary Clinton,
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  I want to follow up on that. I'm going to let
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  you talk about it now. Because everything he
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  just said is absolutely false, but I'm not surprised.
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  In the first debate... In the first debate, I
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  told people that it would be impossible to be
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  fact -checking Donald all the time. I'd never
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  get to talk about anything I want to do and how
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  we're going to really make lives better for people.
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  So, once again, go to HillaryClinton .com. We
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  have literally Trump. You can fact -check him
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  in real time. Last time, at the first debate,
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  we had millions of people. fact -checking so
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  I expect we'll have millions more fact -checking
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  because you know it is it's just awfully good
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  that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump
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  is not in charge of the law in our country because
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  you'd be in jail secretary Clinton we want to
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  remind the audience to please not talk out loud
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  please do not applaud you're just wasting time
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  And Secretary Clinton, I do want to follow up
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  on emails. You've said your handling of your
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  emails was a mistake. You disagreed with FBI
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  Director James Comey calling your handling of
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  classified information, quote, extremely careless.
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  The FBI said that there were 110 classified emails
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  that were exchanged, eight of which were top
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  secret, and that it was possible hostile actors
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  did gain access to those emails. You don't call
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  that extremely careless? Well, Martha, first
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  let me say, and I've said it before, but I'll
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  repeat it because I want everyone to hear it.
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  That was a mistake, and I take responsibility
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  for using a personal email account. Obviously,
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  if I were to do it over again, I would not. I'm
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  not making any excuses. It was a mistake, and
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  I am very sorry about that. But I think it's
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  also important to point out where... there are
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  some misleading accusations from critics and
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  others. After a year -long investigation, there
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  is no evidence that anyone hacked the server
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  I was using, and there is no evidence that anyone
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  can point to at all, anyone who says otherwise
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  has no basis, that any classified material ended
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  up in the wrong hands. I take classified materials
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  very seriously. and always have when i was on
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  the senate armed services committee i was privy
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  to a lot of classified material obviously as
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  secretary of state i had some of the most important
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  secrets that we possess such as going after bin
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  laden so i am very committed to taking classified
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  information seriously and as i said there is
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  no evidence uh that any classified information
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  ended up in the wrong hands okay we're going
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  to move on and yet She didn't know the word the
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  letter C on a document Right. She didn't even
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  know what that word what that letter meant, you
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  know, it's amazing I'm watching Hillary go over
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  facts and she's going after fact after fact and
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  she's lying again because she said she You know
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  what she did with the emails was fine. You think
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  it was fine to delete 33 ,000 emails. I don't
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  think so She said the 33 ,000 emails had to do
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  with her daughter's wedding number one and a
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  yoga class well maybe we'll give three or three
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  or four or five or something 33 000 emails deleted
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  and now she's saying there wasn't anything wrong
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  and more importantly that was after getting a
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  subpoena that wasn't before that was after she
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  got it from the united states congress and i'll
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  be honest i am so disappointed in congressmen
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  including republicans for allowing this to happen
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  our Justice Department where her husband goes
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  on to the back of an airplane for 39 minutes
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  talks to the Attorney General days before a ruling
• 22:44
  is going to be made on her case but for you to
• 22:47
  say that there was nothing wrong with you deleting
• 22:52
  39 ,000 emails again you should be ashamed of
• 22:56
  yourself what you did and this is after getting
• 22:58
  a subpoena from the United States Congress. We
• 23:01
  have to move on. Secretary Clinton, you can respond,
• 23:03
  and then we've got to move on. We want to give
• 23:04
  the audience a chance here. Let alone after getting
• 23:08
  a subpoena from the United States Congress. Secretary
• 23:10
  Clinton, you can respond, and then we have to
• 23:11
  move on to an audience question. Look, it's just
• 23:14
  not true, and so please go to... Oh, you didn't
• 23:17
  delete them? Allow her to respond, please. Personal
• 23:19
  e -mails, not official. 33 ,000? Well, we turned
• 23:22
  over 35 ,000, so it was... What about the other
• 23:25
  15 ,000? Please allow her to respond. She didn't
• 23:27
  talk while you talked. Yes, that's true. I didn't.
• 23:30
  Because you have nothing to say. I didn't in
• 23:32
  the first debate and I'm going to try not to
• 23:34
  in this debate because I'd like to get to the
• 23:37
  questions that the people have brought here tonight
• 23:39
  to talk to us about. And get off this question.
• 23:44
  Okay, Donald, I know you're into big diversion
• 23:47
  tonight, anything to avoid talking about your
• 23:49
  campaign and the way it's exploding and the way
• 23:51
  Republicans are leaving you, but let's at least
• 23:54
  focus on some of the issues that people care
• 23:58
  about tonight. Let's get to their question. We
• 24:00
  have a question here from Ken Karpowitz. He has
• 24:02
  a question about health care. Ken? I'd like to
• 24:04
  know, Anderson, why aren't you bringing up the
• 24:06
  e -mails? I'd like to know. We brought up the
• 24:08
  e -mails. No, it hasn't. It hasn't. And it hasn't
• 24:10
  been finished at all. Ken Carpowitz has a question.
• 24:14
  It's nice to one -on -three. Thank you. Affordable
• 24:17
  Care Act, known as Obamacare, it is not affordable.
• 24:23
  Premiums have gone up. Deductibles have gone
• 24:25
  up. Co -pays have gone up. Prescriptions have
• 24:29
  gone up. And the coverage has gone down. What
• 24:32
  will you do to bring the costs down and make
• 24:36
  coverage better? That first one goes to Secretary
• 24:39
  Clinton because you started out the last one
• 24:41
  to the audience. If he wants to start, he can
• 24:43
  start. No, go ahead, Donald. No, I'm a gentleman,
• 24:46
  Hillary. Go ahead. Secretary Clinton? Well, I
• 24:51
  think Donald was about to say he's going to solve
• 24:53
  it by repealing it and getting rid of the Affordable
• 24:57
  Care Act. And I'm going to fix it, because I
• 25:00
  agree with you. Premiums have gotten too high,
• 25:02
  co -pays, deductibles, prescription drug costs.
• 25:05
  And I've laid out a series of actions that we
• 25:08
  can take to try to get those costs down. But
• 25:11
  here's what I don't want people to forget when
• 25:13
  we're talking about reining in the cost, which
• 25:16
  has to be the highest priority of the next president.
• 25:20
  When the Affordable Care Act passed, it wasn't
• 25:22
  just that 20 million people got insurance who
• 25:25
  didn't have it before, but that in and of itself
• 25:27
  was a good thing. I meet these people all the
• 25:29
  time, and they tell me what a difference having
• 25:32
  that insurance meant to them and their families.
• 25:35
  But everybody else, the 170 million of us, who
• 25:40
  get health insurance through our employers got
• 25:44
  big benefits. Number one, insurance companies
• 25:46
  can't deny you coverage because of a pre -existing
• 25:49
  condition. Number two, no lifetime limits, which
• 25:54
  is a big deal if you have serious health problems.
• 25:57
  Number three, women can't be charged more than
• 26:00
  men for our health insurance, which is the way
• 26:02
  it used to be before the Affordable Care Act.
• 26:05
  Number four, If you're under 26 and your parents
• 26:08
  have a policy, you can be on that policy until
• 26:12
  the age of 26, something that didn't happen before.
• 26:15
  So I want very much to save what works and is
• 26:19
  good about the Affordable Care Act. But we've
• 26:22
  got to get costs down. We've got to provide some
• 26:24
  additional help to small businesses so that they
• 26:27
  can afford to provide health insurance. But if
• 26:31
  we repeal it, as Donald has proposed, and start
• 26:34
  over again, All of those benefits I just mentioned
• 26:38
  are lost to everybody, not just people who get
• 26:42
  their health insurance on the exchange. And then
• 26:44
  we would have to start all over again. Right
• 26:47
  now, we are at 90 percent health insurance coverage.
• 26:50
  That's the highest we've ever been in our country.
• 26:53
  So I want us to get to 100 percent, but get costs
• 26:56
  down and keep quality up. Mr. Trump, you have
• 26:59
  two minutes. It is such a great question, and
• 27:02
  it's maybe the question I get almost more than
• 27:05
  anything else outside of defense. Obamacare is
• 27:09
  a disaster. You know it. We all know it. It's
• 27:13
  going up at numbers that nobody's ever seen worldwide.
• 27:17
  Nobody's ever seen numbers like this for health
• 27:19
  care. It's only getting worse. In 17, it implodes
• 27:23
  by itself. Their method of fixing it is to go
• 27:26
  back and ask Congress for more money, more and
• 27:28
  more money. We have right now almost $20 trillion
• 27:31
  in debt. Obamacare will never work. It's very
• 27:35
  bad, very bad health insurance, far too expensive,
• 27:40
  and not only expensive for the person that has
• 27:42
  it, unbelievably expensive for our country. It's
• 27:45
  going to be one of the biggest line items very
• 27:48
  shortly. We have to repeal it and replace it
• 27:52
  with something absolutely much less expensive
• 27:56
  and something that works where your plan can
• 27:59
  actually be tailored we have to get rid of the
• 28:02
  lines around the state artificial lines where
• 28:04
  we stop insurance companies from coming in and
• 28:07
  competing because they wanted President Obama
• 28:10
  and whoever was working on it they want to leave
• 28:13
  those lines because that gives the insurance
• 28:14
  companies essentially monopolies we want competition
• 28:18
  you will have the finest health care plan there
• 28:22
  is. She wants to go to a single -payer plan,
• 28:24
  which would be a disaster, somewhat similar to
• 28:27
  Canada. And if you ever notice, the Canadians,
• 28:29
  when they need a big operation, when something
• 28:31
  happens, they come into the United States in
• 28:33
  many cases because their system is so slow. It's
• 28:38
  catastrophic in certain ways. But she wants to
• 28:41
  go to single -payer, which means the government
• 28:43
  basically rules everything. Hillary Clinton has
• 28:47
  been after this for years. Obamacare was the
• 28:50
  first step. Obamacare is a total disaster. And
• 28:54
  not only are your rates going up by numbers that
• 28:57
  nobody's ever believed, but your deductibles
• 29:00
  are going up. So that unless you get hit by a
• 29:03
  truck, you're never going to be able to use it.
• 29:05
  It is a disastrous plan and it has to be repealed.
• 29:09
  and replaced secretary clinton let me follow
• 29:11
  up with you your husband called obamacare quote
• 29:13
  the craziest thing in the world saying that small
• 29:15
  business owners are getting killed as premiums
• 29:17
  double coverage is cut in half was he mistaken
• 29:20
  or was his mistake simply telling the truth no
• 29:22
  i mean he clarified what he meant and it's very
• 29:25
  clear look we are in a situation in our country
• 29:28
  where if we were to start all over again we might
• 29:32
  come up with a different But we have an employer
• 29:35
  -based system. That's where the vast majority
• 29:37
  of people get their health care. And the Affordable
• 29:40
  Care Act was meant to try to fill the gap between
• 29:44
  people who were too poor and couldn't put together
• 29:48
  any resources to afford health care, namely people
• 29:51
  on Medicaid, obviously Medicare, which is a single
• 29:54
  -payer system, which takes care of our elderly
• 29:57
  and does a great job doing it, by the way, and
• 30:00
  then all the people who were employed. but people
• 30:03
  who were working but didn't have the money to
• 30:05
  afford insurance and didn't have anybody, an
• 30:08
  employer or anybody else, to help them. That
• 30:11
  was the slot that the Obamacare approach was
• 30:15
  to take. And like I say, 20 million people now
• 30:18
  have health insurance. So if we just rip it up
• 30:21
  and throw it away, what Donald's not telling
• 30:23
  you is we just turn it back to the insurance
• 30:25
  companies the way it used to be. And that means
• 30:28
  the insurance companies get to do pretty much
• 30:30
  whatever they want, including... saying, look,
• 30:32
  I'm sorry, you've got diabetes, you had cancer,
• 30:35
  your child has asthma. Your time is up. You may
• 30:37
  not be able to have insurance because you can't
• 30:40
  afford it. So let's fix what's broken about it,
• 30:43
  but let's not throw it away and give it all back
• 30:46
  to the insurance companies and the drug companies.
• 30:47
  Let me follow up with you, Mr. Trump. That's
• 30:49
  not going to work. Mr. Trump, let me follow up
• 30:50
  on this. I just wanted just one thing. First
• 30:52
  of all, Hillary, everything's broken about it,
• 30:54
  everything. Number two. Bernie Sanders said that
• 30:57
  Hillary Clinton has very bad judgment. This is
• 30:59
  a perfect example of it, trying to save Obamacare,
• 31:02
  which is... You've said you want to end Obamacare.
• 31:05
  You've also said you want to make coverage accessible
• 31:08
  for people with pre -existing conditions. How
• 31:10
  do you force insurance companies to do that?
• 31:13
  if you're no longer mandating that every American
• 31:14
  get insurance? We're going to be able to. You're
• 31:15
  going to have plans. What does that mean? Well,
• 31:17
  I'll tell you what it means. You're going to
• 31:19
  have plans that are so good because we're going
• 31:21
  to have so much competition in the insurance
• 31:23
  industry once we break out the lines and allow
• 31:27
  the competition to come. Are you going to have
• 31:30
  a mandate that Americans have to have health
• 31:32
  insurance? President Obama, by keeping those
• 31:35
  lines, the boundary lines around each state,
• 31:37
  and it was almost gone. until just very toward
• 31:40
  the end of the passage of Obamacare, which, by
• 31:44
  the way, was a fraud. You know that because Jonathan
• 31:47
  Gruber, the architect of Obamacare, was said
• 31:50
  he said it was a great lie. It was a big lie.
• 31:52
  President Obama said you keep your doctor, you
• 31:54
  keep your plan. The whole thing was a fraud and
• 31:56
  it doesn't work. But when we get rid of those
• 31:58
  lines, you have competition and we will be able
• 32:01
  to keep preexisting. We'll also be able to help
• 32:04
  people that can't get. don't have money, because
• 32:07
  we are going to have people protected. And Republicans
• 32:10
  feel this way, believe it or not, and strongly
• 32:12
  this way. We're going to block grant into the
• 32:15
  states. We're going to block grant into Medicaid
• 32:18
  into the states so that we will be able to take
• 32:21
  care of people without the necessary funds to
• 32:23
  take care of themselves. Thank you, Mr. Trump.
• 32:25
  We now go to Gorba Hamid with a question for
• 32:28
  both candidates. Hi. There are 3 .3 million Muslims
• 32:33
  in the United States, and I'm one of them. You've
• 32:36
  mentioned working with Muslim nations, but with
• 32:39
  Islamophobia on the rise, how will you help people
• 32:42
  like me deal with the consequences of being labeled
• 32:45
  as a threat to the country after the election
• 32:47
  is over? Mr. Trump, you're first. Well, you're
• 32:51
  right about Islamophobia, and that's a shame.
• 32:54
  But one thing we have to do is we have to make
• 32:58
  sure that, because there is a problem. I mean,
• 33:01
  whether we like it or not, and we can be very
• 33:03
  politically correct. But whether we like it or
• 33:05
  not, there is a problem. And we have to be sure
• 33:08
  that Muslims come in and report when they see
• 33:12
  something going on. When they see hatred going
• 33:14
  on, they have to report it. As an example, in
• 33:16
  San Bernardino, many people saw the bombs all
• 33:19
  over the apartment of the two people that killed
• 33:21
  14 and wounded many, many people. Horribly wounded.
• 33:24
  They'll never be the same. Muslims have to report
• 33:28
  the problems when they see them. You know, there's
• 33:34
  always a reason for everything. If they don't
• 33:37
  do that, it's a very difficult situation for
• 33:40
  our country. Because you look at Orlando, and
• 33:43
  you look at San Bernardino, and you look at the
• 33:45
  World Trade Center, go outside, you look at Paris,
• 33:47
  look at that horrible... These are radical Islamic
• 33:50
  terrorists. And Xi won't even mention the word,
• 33:54
  and nor will President Obama. He won't use the
• 33:57
  term radical Islamic terrorism. Now, to solve
• 34:01
  a problem... You have to be able to state what
• 34:04
  the problem is, or at least say the name. She
• 34:07
  won't say the name, and President Obama won't
• 34:09
  say the name. But the name is there. It's radical
• 34:12
  Islamic terror. And before you solve it, you
• 34:16
  have to say the name. Secretary Clinton. Well,
• 34:20
  thank you for asking your question. And I've
• 34:22
  heard this question from a lot of Muslim Americans
• 34:25
  across our country. Because, unfortunately, there's
• 34:30
  been a lot of very divisive, dark things said
• 34:36
  about Muslims. And even someone like Captain
• 34:39
  Khan, the young man who sacrificed himself defending
• 34:42
  our country in the United States Army, has been
• 34:46
  subject to attack by Donald. I want to say just
• 34:49
  a couple of things. First, we've had Muslims
• 34:51
  in America since George Washington. And we've
• 34:55
  had many successful Muslims. We just lost a particularly
• 35:00
  well -known one with Muhammad Ali. My vision
• 35:05
  of America is an America where everyone has a
• 35:09
  place. If you're willing to work hard, you do
• 35:12
  your part, you contribute to the community. That's
• 35:16
  what America is. That's what we want America
• 35:18
  to be for our children and our grandchildren.
• 35:21
  It's also very short -sighted and even dangerous
• 35:24
  to be engaging in the kind of demagogic rhetoric
• 35:27
  that Donald has about Muslims. We need American
• 35:30
  Muslims to be part of our eyes and ears, on our
• 35:34
  front lines. I've worked with a lot of different
• 35:37
  Muslim groups around America. I've met with a
• 35:40
  lot of them, and I've heard how important it
• 35:43
  is for them to feel that they are wanted and
• 35:45
  included and part of our country, part of our
• 35:49
  homeland security, and that's what I want to
• 35:52
  see. It's also important I intend to defeat ISIS.
• 35:56
  to do so in a coalition with majority muslim
• 35:59
  nations right now a lot of those nations are
• 36:03
  hearing what donald says and wondering why should
• 36:06
  we cooperate with the americans and this is a
• 36:09
  gift to isis and the terrorists violent jihadist
• 36:13
  terrorists we are not at war with islam and it
• 36:18
  is a mistake and it plays into the hands of the
• 36:20
  terrorists to act as though we are so i want
• 36:24
  a country where citizens like you and your family
• 36:28
  are just as welcome as anyone else. Thank you,
• 36:31
  Secretary Clinton. Mr. Trump, in December, you
• 36:33
  said this. Donald J. Trump is calling for a total
• 36:37
  and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the
• 36:39
  United States until our country's representatives
• 36:42
  can figure out what the hell is going on. We
• 36:45
  have no choice. We have no choice. Your running
• 36:49
  mate said this week that the Muslim ban is no
• 36:51
  longer your position. Is that correct? and if
• 36:55
  it is was it a mistake to have a religious test
• 36:58
  first of all captain khan is an american hero
• 37:01
  and if i were president at that time he would
• 37:05
  be alive today because unlike her who voted for
• 37:09
  the war without knowing what she was doing i
• 37:12
  would not have had our people in iraq iraq was
• 37:15
  a disaster so he would have been alive today
• 37:18
  the muslim ban is something that in some form
• 37:24
  has morphed into a extreme vetting from certain
• 37:28
  areas of the world. Hillary Clinton wants to
• 37:31
  allow... And why did it morph into that? No,
• 37:34
  answer the question. Do you still believe...
• 37:37
  Why do you interrupt her? You interrupt me all
• 37:38
  the time. Why don't you interrupt her? Would
• 37:40
  you please explain whether or not the Muslim
• 37:42
  ban still stands? It's called extreme vetting.
• 37:47
  We are going to areas like Syria where they're
• 37:50
  coming in by the... tens of thousands because
• 37:54
  of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton wants to
• 37:57
  allow a 550 % increase over Obama. People are
• 38:03
  coming into our country like we have no idea
• 38:06
  who they are, where they're from, what their
• 38:10
  feelings about our country is, and she wants
• 38:12
  550 % more. This is going to be the great Trojan
• 38:16
  horse of all time. We have enough problems in
• 38:19
  this country. I believe in building safe zones.
• 38:21
  I believe in having other people pay for them.
• 38:24
  As an example, the Gulf states, who are not carrying
• 38:26
  their weight, but they have nothing but money,
• 38:28
  and take care of people. But I don't want to
• 38:31
  have, with all the problems this country has
• 38:33
  and all of the problems that you see going on,
• 38:35
  hundreds of thousands of people coming in from
• 38:38
  Syria when we know nothing about them. We know
• 38:41
  nothing about their values, and we know nothing
• 38:43
  about their love for our country. And Secretary
• 38:46
  Clinton, let me ask you about that, because you
• 38:49
  have asked for an increase from 10 to 65 ,000
• 38:53
  Syrian refugees. We know you want tougher vetting.
• 38:57
  That's not a perfect system. So why take the
• 39:01
  risk of having those refugees come into the country?
• 39:04
  Well, first of all, I will not let anyone into
• 39:06
  our country that I think poses a risk to us.
• 39:10
  But there are a lot of refugees. women and children.
• 39:14
  Think of that picture we all saw of that four
• 39:16
  -year -old boy with the blood on his forehead
• 39:19
  because he'd been bombed by the Russian and Syrian
• 39:22
  air forces. There are children suffering in this
• 39:27
  catastrophic war, largely, I believe, because
• 39:31
  of Russian aggression. And we need to do our
• 39:36
  part. We by no means are carrying anywhere near
• 39:40
  the load that Europe and others are. But we will
• 39:43
  have vetting that is as tough as it needs to
• 39:47
  be from our professionals, our intelligence experts,
• 39:51
  and others. But it is important for us as a policy
• 39:57
  not to say, as Donald has said, we're going to
• 40:01
  ban people based on a religion. How do you do
• 40:05
  that? We are a country founded on religious freedom
• 40:08
  and liberty. How do we... do what he has advocated
• 40:13
  without causing great distress within our own
• 40:17
  country. Are we going to have religious tests
• 40:20
  when people fly into our country? And how do
• 40:24
  we expect to be able to implement those? So I
• 40:29
  thought that what he said was extremely unwise
• 40:33
  and even dangerous. And indeed, you can look
• 40:37
  at the propaganda on a lot of the terrorist sites.
• 40:40
  And what Donald Trump says about Muslims is used
• 40:45
  to recruit fighters because they want to create
• 40:51
  a war between us. And the final thing I would
• 40:54
  say, this is the 10th or 12th time that he's
• 40:56
  denied being for the war in Iraq. We have it
• 41:00
  on tape. The entire press corps has looked at
• 41:03
  it. It's been debunked, but it never stops him
• 41:05
  from saying whatever he wants to say. Has not
• 41:07
  been debunked. So, please. Has not been debunked.
• 41:10
  Go to HillaryClinton .com and you can see it.
• 41:12
  I was against the war in Iraq. Has not been debunked.
• 41:15
  And you voted for it and you shouldn't have.
• 41:18
  There's been lots of fact -checking on that.
• 41:20
  I'd like to move on to an online question. She
• 41:22
  just went about 25 seconds over her time. Could
• 41:25
  I just respond to this, please? Very quickly,
• 41:27
  please. Hillary Clinton. In terms of having people
• 41:31
  come into our country, we have many criminal
• 41:33
  illegal aliens. When we want to send them back
• 41:36
  to their country, their country says, we don't
• 41:38
  want them. In some cases, they're murderers,
• 41:40
  drug lords, drug problems. And they don't want
• 41:43
  them. And Hillary Clinton, when she was Secretary
• 41:45
  of State, said, that's OK. We can't force it
• 41:47
  into their country. Let me tell you, I'm going
• 41:49
  to force them right back into their country.
• 41:51
  They're murderers and some very bad people. And
• 41:54
  I will tell you very strongly. When Bernie Sanders
• 41:57
  said she had bad judgment, she has really bad
• 41:59
  judgment because we are letting people into this
• 42:02
  country that are going to cause problems and
• 42:04
  crime like you've never seen. We're also letting
• 42:06
  drugs pour through our southern border at a record
• 42:09
  clip, at a record clip, and it shouldn't be allowed
• 42:14
  to happen. ICE just endorsed me. They've never
• 42:17
  endorsed a presidential candidate. The Border
• 42:19
  Patrol agents, 16 ,500, just recently endorsed
• 42:23
  me. They endorse me because I understand the
• 42:27
  border. She doesn't. She wants amnesty for everybody.
• 42:30
  Come right in. Come right over. It's a horrible
• 42:33
  thing she's doing. She's got bad judgment and,
• 42:36
  honestly, so bad that she should never be president
• 42:39
  of the United States. That I can tell you. Thank
• 42:42
  you, Mr. Trump. I want to move on. This next
• 42:44
  question comes from the public. through the bipartisan
• 42:46
  open debate coalition's online forum where americans
• 42:50
  submitted questions that generated millions of
• 42:53
  votes this question involves wikileaks release
• 42:56
  of purported excerpts of secretary clinton's
• 42:59
  paid speeches which she has refused to release
• 43:02
  and one line in particular in which you secretary
• 43:05
  clinton purportedly say you need both a public
• 43:08
  and private position on certain issues so two
• 43:14
  from Virginia asks, is it okay for politicians
• 43:17
  to be two -faced? Is it acceptable for a politician
• 43:21
  to have a private stance on issues? Secretary
• 43:25
  Clinton, your two minutes. Right. As I recall,
• 43:28
  that was something I said about Abraham Lincoln
• 43:33
  after having seen the wonderful Steven Spielberg
• 43:38
  movie called Lincoln. It was a master class watching
• 43:43
  President Lincoln get the Congress to approve
• 43:47
  the 13th Amendment. It was principled and it
• 43:51
  was strategic. And I was making the point that
• 43:55
  it is hard sometimes to get the Congress to do
• 43:58
  what you want to do. And you have to keep working
• 44:01
  at it. And yes, President Lincoln was trying
• 44:05
  to... convinced some people, he used some arguments.
• 44:08
  Convincing other people, he used other arguments.
• 44:11
  That was a great, I thought, a great display
• 44:15
  of presidential leadership. But, you know, let's
• 44:18
  talk about what's really going on here, Martha,
• 44:20
  because our intelligence community just came
• 44:24
  out and said in the last few days that the Kremlin,
• 44:29
  meaning Putin and the Russian government, are
• 44:32
  directing the attacks the hacking on American
• 44:37
  accounts to influence our election and WikiLeaks
• 44:41
  as part of that as our other sites where the
• 44:45
  Russians hack information We don't even know
• 44:48
  if it's accurate information and then they put
• 44:51
  it out We have never in the history of our country
• 44:54
  been in a situation where an adversary a foreign
• 44:59
  power is working so hard to influence the outcome
• 45:03
  of the election. And believe me, they're not
• 45:06
  doing it to get me elected. They're doing it
• 45:08
  to try to influence the election for Donald Trump.
• 45:11
  Now, maybe because he has praised Putin, maybe
• 45:14
  because he says he agrees with a lot of what
• 45:17
  Putin wants to do, maybe because he wants to
• 45:19
  do business in Moscow. I don't know the reasons,
• 45:21
  but we deserve answers. And we should demand
• 45:25
  that Donald release all of his tax returns so
• 45:28
  that people can see what are the entanglements
• 45:32
  and the financial relationships that he has with
• 45:35
  Russians and other foreign powers. Well, I think
• 45:38
  I should respond because it's so ridiculous.
• 45:41
  Look, now she's blaming, she got caught in a
• 45:44
  total lie. Her papers went out to all her friends
• 45:47
  at the banks, Goldman Sachs, and everybody else.
• 45:49
  And she said things, WikiLeaks, that just came
• 45:52
  out. And she lied. Now she's blaming the lie
• 45:57
  on the late, great Abraham Lincoln. That's one
• 46:00
  that I have. OK, honest Abe. Honest Abe never
• 46:04
  lied. That's the good thing. That's the big difference
• 46:06
  between Abraham Lincoln and you. That's a big,
• 46:09
  big difference. We're talking about some difference.
• 46:12
  But as far as other elements of what she was
• 46:16
  saying, I don't know, Putin. I think it would
• 46:19
  be great if we got along with Russia, because
• 46:22
  we could fight ISIS together as an example. But
• 46:24
  I don't know, Putin. But I notice any time anything
• 46:26
  wrong happens, they like to say, the Russians,
• 46:29
  the Russians. He doesn't know if it's the Russians
• 46:31
  doing the hacking. Maybe there is no hacking.
• 46:34
  But they always blame Russia. And the reason
• 46:35
  they blame Russia is because they think they're
• 46:37
  trying to tarnish me with Russia. I know nothing
• 46:39
  about Russia. I know I know about Russia, but
• 46:42
  I know nothing about the inner workings of Russia.
• 46:44
  I don't deal there. I have no businesses that
• 46:46
  have no loans from Russia. I have a very, very
• 46:49
  great balance sheet. So great that when I did
• 46:51
  the old post office on Pennsylvania Avenue, the
• 46:54
  United States government, because of my balance
• 46:56
  sheet, which they actually know very well, chose
• 46:59
  me to do the old post office between the White
• 47:02
  House and Congress, chose me to do. the old post
• 47:06
  office one of the primary things in fact perhaps
• 47:08
  the primary thing was balance sheet but i have
• 47:11
  no loans with russia you could go to the united
• 47:14
  states government and they would probably tell
• 47:17
  you that because they know my sheet very well
• 47:19
  in order to get that development i had to have
• 47:21
  now the taxes are a very simple thing as soon
• 47:24
  as i have first of all i pay hundreds of millions
• 47:26
  of dollars in taxes many of our friends took
• 47:30
  bigger deductions. Warren Buffett took a massive
• 47:33
  deduction. Soros, who's a friend of hers, took
• 47:36
  a massive deduction. Many of the people that
• 47:38
  are giving her all this money, that she can do
• 47:40
  many more commercials than me, took massive deductions.
• 47:44
  I pay hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes,
• 47:47
  but as soon as my routine audit's finished, I'll
• 47:50
  release my returns. I'll be very proud to. Thank
• 47:53
  you, Mr. Trump. We're on a turn, actually, on
• 47:55
  the topic of taxes. We have a question from Spencer
• 47:57
  Moss. Spencer? good evening my question is what
• 48:06
  specific tax provisions will you change to ensure
• 48:08
  the wealthiest americans pay their fair share
• 48:11
  in taxes mr trump you have two minutes well one
• 48:13
  thing i do is get rid of carried interest the
• 48:15
  one of the greatest provisions for people like
• 48:18
  me to be honest with you i give up a lot when
• 48:21
  i run because i knock out the tax code and she
• 48:24
  could have done this years ago by the way she's
• 48:26
  a united states she was a united states senator
• 48:28
  she complains that donald trump took advantage
• 48:31
  of the tax code well Why didn't she change it?
• 48:33
  Why didn't you change it when you were a senator?
• 48:35
  The reason you didn't is that all your friends
• 48:37
  take the same advantage that I do. And I do.
• 48:39
  You have provisions in the tax code that, frankly,
• 48:42
  we could change. But you wouldn't change it because
• 48:44
  all of these people give you the money so you
• 48:47
  can take negative ads on Donald Trump. But...
• 48:51
  And I say that about a lot of things. You know,
• 48:52
  I've heard Hillary complaining about so many
• 48:55
  different things over the years. I wish you had
• 48:56
  done this. But she's been there for 30 years.
• 48:58
  She's been doing this stuff. She never changed
• 49:00
  and she never will change. She never will change.
• 49:04
  We're getting rid of carried interest provisions.
• 49:06
  I'm lowering taxes, actually, because I think
• 49:08
  it's so important for corporations because we
• 49:10
  have corporations leaving massive corporations
• 49:12
  and little ones. Little ones can't form. We're
• 49:15
  getting rid of regulations, which goes hand in
• 49:17
  hand with the lowering of the taxes. But we're
• 49:19
  bringing the tax rate down from 35 % to 15%.
• 49:23
  We're cutting taxes for the middle class. And
• 49:25
  I will tell you, we are cutting them big league
• 49:28
  for the middle class. And I will tell you, Hillary
• 49:30
  Clinton is raising your taxes, folks. You can
• 49:32
  look at me. She's raising your taxes really high.
• 49:37
  What that's going to do is a disaster for the
• 49:40
  country. But she is raising your taxes and I'm
• 49:42
  lowering your taxes. That in itself is a big
• 49:45
  difference. We are going to be thriving again.
• 49:47
  We have no growth in this country. There's no
• 49:50
  growth. If China has a GDP of 7%, it's like a
• 49:54
  national catastrophe. We're down at 1%. And that's
• 49:59
  like no growth. And we're going lower. in my
• 50:02
  opinion and a lot of it has to do with the fact
• 50:04
  that our taxes are so high just about the highest
• 50:07
  in the world and i'm bring bringing them down
• 50:09
  to one of the lower in the world and i think
• 50:12
  it's so important one of the most important things
• 50:14
  we can do but she is raising everybody's taxes
• 50:17
  massively secretary clinton you have two minutes
• 50:19
  the question was uh what specific tax provisions
• 50:22
  will be changed to ensure the wealthiest americans
• 50:23
  pay their fair share of taxes well everything
• 50:26
  you've heard just now from donald is not true
• 50:29
  i'm I'm sorry I have to keep saying this, but
• 50:32
  he lives in an alternative reality. And it is
• 50:36
  sort of amusing to hear somebody who hasn't paid
• 50:39
  federal income taxes in maybe 20 years talking
• 50:41
  about what he's going to do. But I'll tell you
• 50:43
  what he's going to do. His plan will give the
• 50:46
  wealthy and corporations the biggest tax cuts
• 50:50
  they've ever had, more than the Bush tax cuts
• 50:53
  by at least a factor of two. Donald always takes
• 50:56
  care of Donald and people like Donald. And this
• 50:59
  would be a massive gift. And indeed, the way
• 51:03
  that he talks about his tax cuts would end up
• 51:06
  raising taxes on middle class families, millions
• 51:09
  of middle class families. Now, here's what I
• 51:12
  want to do. I have said nobody who makes less
• 51:15
  than $250 ,000 a year, and that's the vast majority
• 51:18
  of Americans, as you know, will have their taxes
• 51:21
  raised because I think we've got to go where
• 51:23
  the money is. And the money is with people who've
• 51:26
  taken advantage. of every single break in the
• 51:29
  tax code and yes when i was a senator i did vote
• 51:31
  to close corporate loopholes i voted to close
• 51:34
  i think one of the loopholes he took advantage
• 51:37
  of when he claimed a billion dollar uh loss that
• 51:40
  enabled him to avoid paying taxes i want to have
• 51:44
  a tax on people who are making a million dollars
• 51:48
  it's called the buffett rule yes warren buffett
• 51:51
  is the one who's gone out and said somebody like
• 51:53
  him should not be paying a lower tax rate than
• 51:56
  his secretary i want to have a surcharge on incomes
• 51:59
  above 5 million we have to make up for lost times
• 52:02
  because i want to invest in you i want to invest
• 52:04
  in hard -working families and i think it's been
• 52:08
  unfortunate but it's happened that since the
• 52:12
  great recession the gains have all gone to the
• 52:14
  top and we need to reverse that people like donald
• 52:18
  who paid zero in taxes zero for our vets zero
• 52:22
  for our military zero for health and education
• 52:25
  That is wrong. And we're going to make sure that
• 52:28
  nobody, no corporation and no individual, can
• 52:32
  get away without paying his fair share to support
• 52:35
  our country. Mr. Trump, I want to give the chance
• 52:37
  to respond. I just want to tell our viewers what
• 52:39
  she's referring to. In the last month, taxes
• 52:41
  were the number one issue on Facebook for the
• 52:43
  first time in the campaign. The New York Times
• 52:45
  published three pages of your 1995 tax returns.
• 52:48
  They show you claimed a $960 million loss, which
• 52:51
  means you could have avoided paying personal
• 52:53
  federal income taxes for years. You've said you
• 52:55
  pay state taxes, employee taxes, real estate
• 52:57
  taxes, property taxes. You have not answered,
• 53:00
  though, a simple question. Did you use that $916
• 53:03
  million loss to avoid paying personal federal
• 53:05
  income taxes? Of course I do. Of course I do.
• 53:08
  And so do all of her donors, or most of her donors.
• 53:11
  I know many of her donors. her donors took massive
• 53:14
  tax write -offs a lot of my personal federal
• 53:16
  income tax a lot of my write -off was depreciation
• 53:19
  and other things that hillary as a senator allowed
• 53:21
  and she'll always allow because the people that
• 53:23
  give her all this money they want it that's why
• 53:26
  see i understand the tax code better than anybody
• 53:28
  that's ever run for president hillary clinton
• 53:31
  and it's extremely complex Hillary Clinton has
• 53:34
  friends that want all of these provisions, including
• 53:37
  they want the carried interest provision, which
• 53:39
  is very important to Wall Street people, but
• 53:41
  they really want the carried interest provision,
• 53:43
  which I believe Hillary's leaving. It's very
• 53:46
  interesting why she's leaving carried interest,
• 53:48
  but I will tell you that, number one, I pay tremendous
• 53:51
  numbers of taxes. I absolutely used it, and so
• 53:55
  did Warren Buffett, and so did George Soros,
• 53:57
  and so did many of the other people that... Hillary
• 54:01
  is getting money from now. I won't mention their
• 54:04
  names because they're rich, but they're not famous.
• 54:07
  So we won't make them famous Can you say how
• 54:09
  many years you have avoided paying personal federal
• 54:12
  income taxes? No, but I pay tax and I pay federal
• 54:14
  tax, too But I have a write -off a lot of its
• 54:17
  depreciation, which is a wonderful charge. I
• 54:19
  love depreciation You know, she's given it to
• 54:22
  us. Hey if she had a problem For 30 years she's
• 54:25
  been doing this, Anderson. I say it all the time.
• 54:27
  She talks about health care. Why didn't she do
• 54:29
  something about it? She talks about taxes. Why
• 54:31
  didn't she do something about it? She doesn't
• 54:34
  do anything about anything other than talk. With
• 54:37
  her, it's all talk and no action. And again...
• 54:41
  Bernie Sanders, it's really bad judgment. She
• 54:44
  has made bad judgment not only on taxes, she's
• 54:48
  made bad judgments on Libya, on Syria, on Iraq.
• 54:52
  I mean, her and Obama, whether you like it or
• 54:55
  not, the way they got out of Iraq, the vacuum
• 54:58
  they've left, that's why ISIS formed in the first
• 55:01
  place. They started from that little area, and
• 55:03
  now they're in 32 different nations, Hillary.
• 55:07
  Congratulations. Great job. Won't you be able
• 55:09
  to respond, Secretary Clinton? Well, here we
• 55:14
  go again. I've been in favor of getting rid of
• 55:16
  carried interest for years Starting when I was
• 55:19
  a senator from New York, but that's not the point
• 55:22
  here. Why didn't you do it? Why didn't you do
• 55:24
  it? Because I was a senator with a Republican
• 55:26
  president. Oh, really? I will be the president.
• 55:28
  You could have done it. If you were an effective
• 55:30
  senator, you could have done it. If you were
• 55:33
  an effective senator, you could have done it.
• 55:36
  But you were not an effective senator. Please
• 55:37
  allow her to respond. She didn't interrupt you.
• 55:39
  You know, under our Constitution, Presidents
• 55:41
  have something called veto power. Look, he has
• 55:46
  now said repeatedly, 30 years this and 30 years
• 55:49
  that. So let me talk about my 30 years in public
• 55:53
  service. I'm very glad to do so. Eight million
• 55:57
  kids every year have health insurance because
• 56:00
  when I was first lady, I worked with Democrats
• 56:02
  and Republicans to create the Children's Health
• 56:04
  Insurance Program. Hundreds of thousands of kids
• 56:07
  now have a chance to be adopted. because I worked
• 56:11
  to change our adoption and foster care system.
• 56:13
  After 9 -11, I went to work with Republican mayor,
• 56:17
  governor, and president to rebuild New York and
• 56:20
  to get health care for our first responders who
• 56:23
  were suffering because they had run toward danger
• 56:25
  and gotten sickened by it. Hundreds of thousands
• 56:28
  of National Guard and Reserve members have health
• 56:30
  care because of work that I did, and children
• 56:34
  have safer medicines because I was able to pass
• 56:37
  a law that required... the dosing to be more
• 56:40
  carefully done. When I was Secretary of State,
• 56:44
  I went around the world advocating for our country,
• 56:47
  but also advocating for women's rights, to make
• 56:50
  sure that women had a decent chance to have a
• 56:55
  better life, and negotiated a treaty with Russia
• 56:58
  to lower nuclear weapons. 400 pieces of legislation
• 57:03
  have my name on it as a sponsor or co -sponsor
• 57:07
  when I was a senator for eight years. I worked
• 57:10
  very hard and was very proud to be reelected
• 57:13
  in New York by an even bigger margin than I had
• 57:16
  been elected the first time. And as president,
• 57:19
  I will take that work, that bipartisan work,
• 57:22
  that finding common ground, because you have
• 57:24
  to be able to get along with people to get things
• 57:26
  done in Washington. Thank you, Secretary. And
• 57:28
  I've proven that I can. And for 30 years, I've
• 57:31
  produced results for people. Thank you, Secretary.
• 57:33
  We're going to move on to Syria. Both of you
• 57:35
  have mentioned that. She said a lot of things.
• 57:37
  I mean, I think we should be allowed to maybe
• 57:39
  dispute it. No, Mr. Trump, we're going to go
• 57:41
  on. This is about the audience. Because she has
• 57:42
  been a disaster as a senator. Mr. Trump, we're
• 57:44
  going to move on. The heartbreaking video of
• 57:47
  a five -year -old Syrian boy named Amran sitting
• 57:50
  in an ambulance after being pulled from the rubble
• 57:53
  after an airstrike in Aleppo focused the world's
• 57:57
  attention on the horrors of the war in Syria.
• 58:00
  with 136 million views on Facebook alone. But
• 58:04
  there are much worse images coming out of Aleppo
• 58:06
  every day now, where in the past few weeks alone,
• 58:09
  400 people have been killed, at least 100 of
• 58:13
  them children. Just days ago, the State Department
• 58:16
  called for a war crimes investigation of the
• 58:18
  Syrian regime of Bashar al -Assad and its ally,
• 58:22
  Russia, for their bombardment of Aleppo. So this
• 58:26
  next question comes from social media through
• 58:28
  Facebook. diane from pennsylvania asks if you
• 58:31
  were president what would you do about syria
• 58:34
  and the humanitarian crisis in aleppo isn't it
• 58:38
  a lot like the holocaust when the u .s waited
• 58:41
  too long before we helped secretary clinton we
• 58:44
  will begin with your two minutes well the situation
• 58:47
  in syria is catastrophic and every day that goes
• 58:52
  by we see the results of the regime by assad
• 58:57
  in partnership with the iranians on the ground
• 59:00
  the russians in the air bombarding places in
• 59:04
  particular aleppo where there are hundreds of
• 59:07
  thousands of people probably about 250 000 still
• 59:10
  left and there is a determined effort by the
• 59:14
  russian air force to destroy aleppo in order
• 59:18
  to eliminate the last of the Syrian rebels who
• 59:24
  were really holding out against the Assad regime.
• 59:27
  Russia hasn't paid any attention to ISIS. They're
• 59:30
  interested in keeping Assad in power. So I, when
• 59:34
  I was Secretary of State, advocated, and I advocate
• 59:37
  today, a no -fly zone and safe zones. We need
• 59:41
  some leverage with the Russians because they're
• 59:44
  not going to come to the negotiating table for
• 59:49
  a diplomatic... resolution, unless there is some
• 59:52
  leverage over them. And we have to work more
• 59:56
  closely with our partners and allies on the ground.
• 1:00:00
  But I want to emphasize that what is at stake
• 1:00:04
  here is the ambitions and the aggressiveness
• 1:00:07
  of Russia. Russia has decided that it's all in
• 1:00:12
  in Syria. And they've also decided who they want
• 1:00:16
  to see become president of the United States,
• 1:00:18
  too. And it's not me. I've stood up to Russia.
• 1:00:21
  I've taken on Putin and others. And I would do
• 1:00:24
  that as president. I think wherever we can cooperate
• 1:00:28
  with Russia, that's fine. And I did as secretary
• 1:00:31
  of state. That's how we got a treaty reducing
• 1:00:33
  nuclear weapons. It's how we got the sanctions
• 1:00:35
  on Iran that put a lid on the Iranian nuclear
• 1:00:38
  program without firing a single shot. So I would
• 1:00:41
  go to the negotiating table with more leverage
• 1:00:44
  than we have now. But I do support the effort
• 1:00:47
  to investigate. for crimes, war crimes, committed
• 1:00:51
  by the Assyrians and the Russians and try to
• 1:00:54
  hold them accountable. Thank you, Secretary Clinton.
• 1:00:55
  First of all, she was there as Secretary of State
• 1:00:57
  with the so -called line in the sand, which...
• 1:01:01
  No, I wasn't. I was gone. I hate to interrupt
• 1:01:02
  you, but... But you were in contact, excuse me,
• 1:01:05
  you were in total contact with the White House.
• 1:01:08
  And perhaps, sadly, Obama probably still listened
• 1:01:12
  to you. I don't think he'd be listening very
• 1:01:13
  much anymore. Obama draws the line in the sand.
• 1:01:16
  It was... left at all over the world what happened.
• 1:01:21
  Now, with that being said, she talks tough against
• 1:01:24
  Russia. But our nuclear program has fallen way
• 1:01:28
  behind, and they've gone wild with their nuclear
• 1:01:31
  program. Not good. Our government shouldn't have
• 1:01:33
  allowed that to happen. Russia is new in terms
• 1:01:37
  of nuclear. We are old. We're tired. We're exhausted
• 1:01:40
  in terms of nuclear. A very bad thing. Now she
• 1:01:44
  talks tough. She talks really tough against Putin
• 1:01:47
  and against Assad. She talks in favor of the
• 1:01:52
  rebels. She doesn't even know who the rebels
• 1:01:53
  are. You know, every time we take rebels, whether
• 1:01:57
  it's in Iraq or anywhere else, we're arming people.
• 1:02:01
  And you know what happens? They end up being
• 1:02:03
  worse than the people. Look at what she did in
• 1:02:05
  Libya with Gaddafi. Gaddafi is out. It's a mess.
• 1:02:09
  And by the way, ISIS has a good chunk of their
• 1:02:11
  oil. I'm sure you probably have heard that. It
• 1:02:14
  was a disaster because the fact is almost everything
• 1:02:16
  she's done in foreign policy has been a mistake
• 1:02:19
  and it's been a disaster. But if you look at
• 1:02:22
  Russia, just take a look at Russia and look at
• 1:02:25
  what they did this week, where I agree she wasn't
• 1:02:27
  there, but possibly she's consulted. We sign
• 1:02:30
  a peace treaty. Everyone's all excited. Well,
• 1:02:33
  what Russia did with Assad, and by the way, with
• 1:02:36
  Iran, who you made very powerful with the dumbest
• 1:02:38
  deal perhaps I've ever seen in the history of
• 1:02:40
  dealmaking, the Iran deal with $150 billion,
• 1:02:43
  with the $1 .7 billion in cash, which is enough
• 1:02:46
  cash to fill up this room. But look at that deal.
• 1:02:50
  Iran now and Russia. are now against us. So she
• 1:02:54
  wants to fight. She wants to fight for rebels.
• 1:02:57
  There's only one problem. You don't even know
• 1:02:59
  who the rebels are. So what's the purpose? And
• 1:03:02
  one thing I have to say, I don't like Assad at
• 1:03:05
  all. But Assad is killing ISIS. Russia is killing
• 1:03:09
  ISIS. And Iran is killing ISIS. And those three
• 1:03:13
  have now lined up because of our weak foreign
• 1:03:16
  policy. Mr. Trump, let me repeat the question.
• 1:03:20
  If you were president, What would you do about
• 1:03:24
  Syria and the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo?
• 1:03:28
  And I want to remind you what your running mate
• 1:03:30
  said. He said, Okay. He and I haven't spoken,
• 1:03:51
  and I disagree. I disagree. I think we have to
• 1:03:54
  knock out ISIS. Right now, Syria is fighting
• 1:03:58
  ISIS. We have people that want to fight both
• 1:04:00
  at the same time. But Syria is no longer Syria.
• 1:04:03
  Syria is Russia, and it's Iran, who she made
• 1:04:05
  strong, and Kerry and Obama, made into a very
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  powerful nation and a very rich nation very,
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  very quickly. Very, very quickly. I believe we
• 1:04:15
  have to get ISIS. We have to worry about ISIS
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  before we can get too much more involved. She
• 1:04:22
  had a chance to do something with Syria. They
• 1:04:24
  had a chance. And that was the line. What do
• 1:04:26
  you think will happen if Aleppo falls? I think
• 1:04:28
  Aleppo is a disaster, humanitarian -wise. What
• 1:04:31
  do you think will happen if it falls? I think
• 1:04:33
  that it basically has fallen, okay? It basically
• 1:04:36
  has fallen. Let me tell you something. You take
• 1:04:38
  a look at Mosul. The biggest problem I have with...
• 1:04:41
  the stupidity of our foreign policy. We have
• 1:04:44
  Mosul. They think a lot of the ISIS leaders are
• 1:04:46
  in Mosul. So we have announcements coming out
• 1:04:48
  of Washington and coming out of Iraq. We will
• 1:04:50
  be attacking Mosul in three weeks or four weeks.
• 1:04:53
  Well, all of these bad leaders from ISIS are
• 1:04:56
  leaving Mosul. Why can't they do it quietly?
• 1:04:59
  Why can't they do the attack, make it a sneak
• 1:05:02
  attack, and after the attack is made, inform
• 1:05:06
  the American public that we've knocked out the
• 1:05:08
  leaders, we've had a tremendous success. People
• 1:05:11
  leave. Why do they have to say we're going to
• 1:05:13
  be attacking Mosul within the next four to six
• 1:05:16
  weeks, which is what they're saying? How stupid
• 1:05:18
  is our country? There are sometimes reasons the
• 1:05:21
  military does that. Psychological warfare. I
• 1:05:24
  can't think of any. I can't think of any. It
• 1:05:26
  might be to help get civilians out. Look, I have
• 1:05:29
  200 generals and admirals who endorse me. I have
• 1:05:32
  21 Congressional Medal of Honor recipients who
• 1:05:36
  endorse me. We talk about it all the time. They
• 1:05:40
  understand. Why can't they do something secretively
• 1:05:43
  where they go in and they knock out the leadership?
• 1:05:47
  Why would these people stay there? I've been
• 1:05:50
  reading now for weeks about Mosul, that it's
• 1:05:54
  the harbor of where, you know, between Raqqa
• 1:05:57
  and Mosul. This is where they think the ISIS
• 1:05:59
  leaders are. Why would they be saying they're
• 1:06:02
  not staying there anymore? They're gone because
• 1:06:04
  everybody's talking about how Iraq. which is
• 1:06:07
  us with our leadership, goes in to fight Mosul.
• 1:06:11
  Now, with these 200 admirals and generals, they
• 1:06:15
  can't believe it. All I say is this. General
• 1:06:17
  George Patton, General Douglas MacArthur. are
• 1:06:20
  spinning in their grave at the stupidity of what
• 1:06:24
  we're doing in the Middle East. I'm going to
• 1:06:25
  go to Secretary Clinton. Secretary Clinton, you
• 1:06:27
  want Assad to go. You advocated arming rebels,
• 1:06:30
  but it looks like that may be too late for Aleppo.
• 1:06:33
  You talk about diplomatic efforts. Those have
• 1:06:36
  failed. Ceasefires have failed. Would you introduce
• 1:06:39
  the threat of U .S. military force beyond a no
• 1:06:43
  -fly zone against the Assad regime to back up
• 1:06:46
  diplomacy? I would not. use American ground forces
• 1:06:51
  in Syria. I think that would be a very serious
• 1:06:54
  mistake. I don't think American troops should
• 1:06:58
  be holding territory, which is what they would
• 1:07:01
  have to do as an occupying force. I don't think
• 1:07:04
  that is a smart strategy. I do think the use
• 1:07:08
  of special forces, which we're using, The use
• 1:07:11
  of enablers and trainers in Iraq, which has had
• 1:07:15
  some positive effects, are very much in our interests.
• 1:07:19
  And so I do support what is happening. So what
• 1:07:21
  would you do differently than President Obama
• 1:07:23
  is doing? Martha, I hope that by the time I am
• 1:07:27
  president that we will have pushed ISIS out of
• 1:07:34
  Iraq. I do think that there is a good chance
• 1:07:37
  that we can take Mosul. And, you know, Donald
• 1:07:41
  says he knows more about ISIS than the generals.
• 1:07:43
  No, he doesn't. There are a lot of very important
• 1:07:47
  planning going on. And some of it is to signal
• 1:07:51
  to the Sunnis in the area, as well as Kurdish
• 1:07:55
  Peshmerga fighters, that we all need to be in
• 1:07:58
  this. And that takes a lot of planning and preparation.
• 1:08:01
  I would go after Baghdadi. I would specifically
• 1:08:04
  target Baghdadi. al -Qaeda leaders, and I was
• 1:08:10
  involved in a lot of those operations, highly
• 1:08:12
  classified ones, made a difference. So I think
• 1:08:16
  that could help. I would also consider arming
• 1:08:19
  the Kurds. The Kurds have been our best partners
• 1:08:22
  in Syria, as well as Iraq. And I know there's
• 1:08:27
  a lot of concern about that in some circles,
• 1:08:30
  but I think they should have the equipment they
• 1:08:32
  need so that Kurdish and Arab fighters on the
• 1:08:35
  ground are the principal way that we take Raqqa
• 1:08:39
  after pushing ISIS out of Iraq? Thank you very
• 1:08:42
  much. We're going to move on. She went over a
• 1:08:43
  minute over and you don't stop her. When I go
• 1:08:47
  one second over, it's like you had many answers.
• 1:08:49
  It's really very interesting. Got a question
• 1:08:51
  over here from James Carter. Mr. Carter. My question
• 1:09:00
  is, do you believe you can be a devoted president
• 1:09:10
  to all the people? in the United States? That
• 1:09:14
  question begins for Mr. Trump. Absolutely. I
• 1:09:17
  mean, she calls our people deplorable, a large
• 1:09:22
  group, and irredeemable. I will be a president
• 1:09:27
  for all of our people, and I'll be a president
• 1:09:29
  that will turn our inner cities around and will
• 1:09:32
  give strength to people and will give economics
• 1:09:36
  to people and will bring jobs back because NAFTA,
• 1:09:39
  signed by her husband, is perhaps the greatest
• 1:09:41
  disaster. trade deal in the history of the world.
• 1:09:44
  Not in this country. It stripped us of manufacturing
• 1:09:47
  jobs. We lost our jobs. We lost our money. We
• 1:09:52
  lost our plants. It is a disaster. And now she
• 1:09:54
  wants to sign TPP, even though she says now she's
• 1:09:57
  for it. She called it the gold standard. And
• 1:09:58
  by the way, at the last debate, she lied because
• 1:10:00
  it turned out that she did say the gold standard.
• 1:10:03
  And she said she didn't say it. They actually
• 1:10:05
  said that she lied. OK, and she lied. But she's
• 1:10:09
  lied about a lot of things. I would be. a president
• 1:10:12
  for all of the people, African Americans, the
• 1:10:15
  inner cities, devastating what's happening to
• 1:10:18
  our inner cities. She's been talking about it
• 1:10:20
  for years. As usual, she talks about it, nothing
• 1:10:23
  happens. She doesn't get it done. Same with the
• 1:10:26
  Latino Americans, the Hispanic Americans, the
• 1:10:31
  same exact thing. They talk. They don't get it
• 1:10:33
  done. You go into the inner cities and you see
• 1:10:36
  it's 45 % poverty. African Americans now 45 %
• 1:10:40
  poverty in the inner cities. The education is
• 1:10:43
  a disaster. Jobs are essentially non -existent.
• 1:10:48
  I mean, it's, you know, and I've been saying
• 1:10:51
  at big speeches where I have 20 and 30 ,000 people,
• 1:10:55
  what do you have to lose? It can't get any worse.
• 1:10:58
  And she's been talking about the inner cities
• 1:11:00
  for 25 years. Nothing's going to ever happen.
• 1:11:04
  Let me tell you, if she's president of the United
• 1:11:06
  States, nothing's going to happen. It's just
• 1:11:07
  going to be talk. And all her friends, the taxes
• 1:11:09
  we were talking about, and I would just get it
• 1:11:12
  by osmosis. She's not doing any favors. But by
• 1:11:16
  doing all the others favors, she's doing me favors.
• 1:11:18
  Mr. Trump, thank you. But I will tell you, she's
• 1:11:21
  all talk. It doesn't get done. All you have to
• 1:11:23
  do is take a look at her Senate run. Take a look
• 1:11:25
  at upstate New York. Your two minutes is up.
• 1:11:27
  Secretary Clinton, two minutes. It turned out
• 1:11:28
  to be a disaster. You have two minutes, Secretary
• 1:11:30
  Clinton. Well. 67 % of the people voted to reelect
• 1:11:34
  me when I ran for my second term. And I was very
• 1:11:38
  proud and very humbled by that. Mr. Carter, I
• 1:11:43
  have tried my entire life to do what I can to
• 1:11:47
  support children and families. You know, right
• 1:11:51
  out of law school, I went to work for the Children's
• 1:11:53
  Defense Fund. And Donald talks a lot about, you
• 1:11:56
  know, the 30 years I've been in public service.
• 1:12:00
  I'm proud of that. You know, I started off as
• 1:12:03
  a young lawyer working against discrimination
• 1:12:05
  against African American children in schools
• 1:12:08
  and in the criminal justice system. I worked
• 1:12:11
  to make sure that kids with disabilities could
• 1:12:13
  get a public education, something that I care
• 1:12:16
  very much about. I have worked with Latinos.
• 1:12:20
  One of my first jobs in politics was down in
• 1:12:23
  South Texas registering Latino citizens to be
• 1:12:26
  able to vote. So I have a deep devotion to use
• 1:12:31
  your absolutely correct word, to making sure
• 1:12:34
  that every American feels like he or she has
• 1:12:37
  a place in our country. And I think when you
• 1:12:42
  look at the letters that I get, a lot of people
• 1:12:45
  are worried that maybe they wouldn't have a place
• 1:12:47
  in Donald Trump's America. They write me and...
• 1:12:52
  One woman wrote me about her son, Felix. She
• 1:12:55
  adopted him from Ethiopia when he was a toddler.
• 1:12:57
  He's 10 years old now. This is the only country
• 1:12:59
  he's ever known. And he listens to Donald on
• 1:13:02
  TV, and he said to his mother one day, will he
• 1:13:05
  send me back to Ethiopia if he gets elected?
• 1:13:09
  You know, children listen to what is being said,
• 1:13:13
  to go back to the very, very first question.
• 1:13:16
  And there's a lot of fear. In fact, teachers
• 1:13:18
  and parents are calling it the Trump effect.
• 1:13:22
  A lot of people are feeling, you know, uneasy.
• 1:13:25
  A lot of kids are expressing their concerns.
• 1:13:27
  So first and foremost, I will do everything I
• 1:13:31
  can to reach out to everybody. Democrats, Republicans,
• 1:13:34
  independents, people across our country. If you
• 1:13:37
  don't vote for me, I still want to be your president.
• 1:13:39
  I want to be the best president I can be for
• 1:13:41
  every American. Secretary Clinton, your two minutes
• 1:13:43
  is up. I want to follow up on something that
• 1:13:44
  Donald Trump actually said to you, a comment
• 1:13:47
  you made last month. You said that half of Donald
• 1:13:48
  Trump's supporters are, quote, deplorables, racist.
• 1:13:52
  sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic.
• 1:13:54
  You later said you regretted saying half. You
• 1:13:57
  didn't express regret for using the term deplorables.
• 1:14:00
  To Mr. Carter's question, how can you unite a
• 1:14:02
  country if you've ridden off tens of millions
• 1:14:04
  of Americans? Well, within hours. I said that
• 1:14:07
  I was sorry about the way I talked about that
• 1:14:09
  because my argument is not with his supporters.
• 1:14:13
  It's with him and with the hateful and divisive
• 1:14:15
  campaign that he has run. and the inciting of
• 1:14:19
  violence at his rallies, and the very brutal
• 1:14:23
  kinds of comments about not just women, but all
• 1:14:27
  Americans, all kinds of Americans. And what he
• 1:14:31
  has said about African Americans and Latinos,
• 1:14:35
  about Muslims, about POWs, about immigrants,
• 1:14:40
  about people with disabilities, he's never apologized
• 1:14:43
  for. And so I do think that A lot of the tone
• 1:14:47
  and tenor that he has said. I'm proud of the
• 1:14:50
  campaign that Bernie Sanders and I ran. We ran
• 1:14:52
  a campaign based on issues, not insults. And
• 1:14:54
  he is supporting me 100 percent because we talked
• 1:14:58
  about what we wanted to do. We might have had
• 1:15:00
  some differences and we had a lot of debates,
• 1:15:03
  but we believed that we could make the country
• 1:15:06
  better. And I was proud of that. We have a divided
• 1:15:09
  nation. We have a very divided nation. You look
• 1:15:13
  at Charlotte, you look at Baltimore. You look
• 1:15:16
  at the violence that's taking place in the inner
• 1:15:18
  cities, Chicago. You take a look at Washington,
• 1:15:22
  D .C. We have an increase in murder within our
• 1:15:27
  cities, the biggest in 45 years. We have a divided
• 1:15:31
  nation because people like her, and believe me,
• 1:15:33
  she has tremendous hate in her heart. And when
• 1:15:37
  she said deplorables, she meant it. And when
• 1:15:40
  she said irredeemable, they're irredeemable.
• 1:15:43
  You didn't mention that. But when she said they're
• 1:15:46
  irredeemable, to me, that might have been even
• 1:15:48
  worse. She's got tremendous hatred. And this
• 1:15:53
  country cannot take another four years of Barack
• 1:15:56
  Obama. And that's what you're getting with her.
• 1:15:59
  Mr. Trump, let me follow up with you. In 2008,
• 1:16:01
  you wrote in one of your books that the most
• 1:16:03
  important characteristic of a good leader is
• 1:16:05
  discipline. You said if a leader doesn't have
• 1:16:07
  it, quote, he or she won't be one for very long.
• 1:16:10
  In the days after the first debate, you sent
• 1:16:12
  out a series of tweets from 3 a .m. to 5 a .m.,
• 1:16:14
  including one that told people to check out a
• 1:16:16
  sex tape. Is that the discipline of a good leader?
• 1:16:18
  No, it wasn't check out a sex tape. It was just
• 1:16:20
  take a look at the person that she built up to
• 1:16:22
  be this wonderful Girl Scout who was no Girl
• 1:16:25
  Scout. By the way, just so you understand, when
• 1:16:28
  she said 3 o 'clock in the morning, take a look
• 1:16:30
  at Benghazi. She said, who's going to answer
• 1:16:33
  the call at 3 o 'clock in the morning? Guess
• 1:16:34
  what? She didn't answer because when Ambassador
• 1:16:37
  Stevens... The question is, is that the discipline
• 1:16:39
  of a good leader? 600 times. Well, she said she
• 1:16:42
  was awake at 3 o 'clock in the morning. And she
• 1:16:44
  also sent a tweet out at 3 o 'clock in the morning,
• 1:16:45
  but I won't even mention that. But she said she'll
• 1:16:48
  be awake. The famous thing, we're going to answer
• 1:16:50
  our call at 3 o 'clock in the morning. Guess
• 1:16:51
  what happened? Ambassador Stevens sent 600 requests
• 1:16:57
  for help. And the only one she talked to was
• 1:17:00
  Sidney. Blumenthal, who's her friend and not
• 1:17:04
  a good guy, by the way. So, you know, she shouldn't
• 1:17:07
  be talking about that. Now, tweeting happens
• 1:17:10
  to be a modern -day form of communication. I
• 1:17:13
  mean, you can like it or not like it. I have,
• 1:17:14
  between Facebook and Twitter, I have almost 25
• 1:17:17
  million people. It's a very effective way of
• 1:17:20
  communication. So you can put it down, but it
• 1:17:23
  is a very effective form of communication. I'm
• 1:17:25
  not unproud of it, to be honest with you. Secretary
• 1:17:28
  Clinton, does Mr. Trump have the discipline to
• 1:17:30
  be a good leader? No. I'm shocked to hear that.
• 1:17:34
  Well, it's not only my opinion, it's the opinion
• 1:17:39
  of many others, national security experts, Republicans,
• 1:17:44
  former Republican members of Congress. But it's
• 1:17:48
  in part because those of us who have had the
• 1:17:52
  great privilege of seeing this job up close and
• 1:17:56
  know how difficult it is, and it's not just because...
• 1:18:00
  i watched my husband take a 300 billion dollar
• 1:18:02
  deficit and turn it into a 200 billion dollar
• 1:18:05
  surplus and 23 million new jobs were created
• 1:18:08
  and incomes went up for everybody everybody african
• 1:18:12
  -american incomes went up 33 percent and it's
• 1:18:15
  not just because i worked with george w bush
• 1:18:17
  after 9 11 and i was very proud that when i told
• 1:18:22
  him what the city needed what we needed to recover
• 1:18:24
  he said you've got it and he never wavered he
• 1:18:27
  stuck with me And I have worked and I admire
• 1:18:30
  President Obama. He inherited the worst financial
• 1:18:33
  crisis since the Great Depression. That was a
• 1:18:37
  terrible time for our country. We have to move
• 1:18:39
  along. Nine million people lost their jobs. Five
• 1:18:42
  million homes were lost. And $13 trillion in
• 1:18:45
  family wealth was wiped out. We are back on the
• 1:18:48
  right track. He would send us back into recession
• 1:18:51
  with his tax plans. Secretary Clinton, we are
• 1:18:54
  moving to an audience question. We're almost
• 1:18:56
  out of time. We have another. We have the slowest
• 1:18:58
  growth since 1929. Mr. Trump, Secretary Clinton,
• 1:19:04
  we want to get to the audience. Thank you very
• 1:19:07
  much, both of you. We have another audience question.
• 1:19:13
  Beth Miller has a question for both candidates.
• 1:19:17
  Good evening. Perhaps the most important aspect
• 1:19:20
  of this election is a Supreme Court justice.
• 1:19:23
  What would you prioritize as the most important
• 1:19:26
  aspect of selecting a Supreme Court justice?
• 1:19:30
  We begin with your two minutes, Secretary Clinton.
• 1:19:32
  Thank you. Well, you're right. This is one of
• 1:19:34
  the most important issues in this election. I
• 1:19:38
  want to appoint Supreme Court justices who understand
• 1:19:42
  the way the world really works, who have real
• 1:19:45
  life experience. who have not just been in a
• 1:19:48
  big law firm and maybe clerked for a judge and
• 1:19:51
  then gotten on the bench, but maybe they tried
• 1:19:53
  some more cases. They actually understand what
• 1:19:57
  people are up against because I think the current
• 1:19:59
  court has gone in the wrong direction. And so
• 1:20:02
  I would want to see the Supreme Court reverse
• 1:20:06
  Citizens United and get dark, unaccountable money
• 1:20:10
  out of our politics. Donald doesn't agree with
• 1:20:12
  that. I would like the Supreme Court to understand
• 1:20:15
  that voting rights are still a big problem in
• 1:20:17
  many parts of our country, that we don't always
• 1:20:20
  do everything we can to make it possible for
• 1:20:23
  people of color and older people and young people
• 1:20:27
  to be able to exercise their franchise. I want
• 1:20:30
  a Supreme Court that will stick with Roe v. Wade
• 1:20:34
  and a woman's right to choose, and I want a Supreme
• 1:20:36
  Court that will stick with marriage equality.
• 1:20:39
  Now, Donald has put forth the names of some people
• 1:20:41
  that he would consider. And among the ones that
• 1:20:44
  he has suggested are people who would reverse
• 1:20:47
  Roe v. Wade and reverse marriage equality. I
• 1:20:50
  think that would be a terrible mistake and would
• 1:20:53
  take us backwards. I want a Supreme Court that
• 1:20:56
  doesn't always side with corporate interests.
• 1:20:58
  I want a Supreme Court that understands because
• 1:21:01
  you're wealthy and you can give more money to
• 1:21:03
  something doesn't mean you have any more rights
• 1:21:05
  or should have any more rights than anybody else.
• 1:21:07
  So I have very clear views about what I want
• 1:21:11
  to see. trying to change the balance on the Supreme
• 1:21:14
  Court. And I regret deeply that the Senate has
• 1:21:17
  not done its job, and they have not permitted
• 1:21:20
  a vote on the person that President Obama, a
• 1:21:23
  highly qualified person, they've not given him
• 1:21:26
  a vote to be able to have the full complement
• 1:21:29
  of nine Supreme Court justices. I think that
• 1:21:32
  was a dereliction of duty. I hope that they will
• 1:21:35
  see their way to doing it, but if I am... So
• 1:21:39
  fortunate enough as to be president, I will immediately
• 1:21:41
  move to make sure that we fill that. We have
• 1:21:44
  nine justices. Thank you, Secretary Clinton.
• 1:21:46
  On behalf of our people. Thank you. You're out
• 1:21:48
  of time. Mr. Trump. Justice Scalia, great judge,
• 1:21:53
  died recently and we have a vacancy. I am looking
• 1:22:00
  to appoint judges very much in the mold of Justice
• 1:22:04
  Scalia. I'm looking for judges, and I've actually
• 1:22:08
  picked 20 of them so that people would see. Highly
• 1:22:12
  respected, highly thought of, and actually very
• 1:22:16
  beautifully reviewed by just about everybody.
• 1:22:19
  But people that will respect the Constitution
• 1:22:23
  of the United States. And I think that this is
• 1:22:28
  so important. Also, the Second Amendment, which
• 1:22:30
  is totally under siege by people like Hillary
• 1:22:33
  Clinton. They'll respect the Second Amendment
• 1:22:36
  and what it stands for, what it represents. So
• 1:22:39
  important to me. Now, Hillary mentioned something
• 1:22:41
  about contributions, just so you understand.
• 1:22:44
  So I will have in my race more than $100 million
• 1:22:48
  put in of my money, meaning I'm not taking all
• 1:22:51
  of this big money from all of these different
• 1:22:54
  corporations like she's doing. What I ask is
• 1:22:55
  this. So I'm putting in more than by the time
• 1:22:58
  it's finished, I'll have more than $100 million
• 1:22:59
  invested. Pretty much self -funding mind. We're
• 1:23:03
  raising money for the Republican Party and we're
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  doing tremendously on the small donation $61
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  average or so I asked Hillary. Why doesn't she
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  made 250 million dollars by being an office?
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  She used the power of her office to make a lot
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  of money Why isn't she funding, not for $100
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  million, but why don't you put $10 or $20 or
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  $25 or $30 million into your own campaign? It's
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  $30 million less for special interests that will
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  tell you exactly what to do. And it would really,
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  I think, be a nice sign to the American public.
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  Why aren't you putting some money in? You have
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  a lot of it. You've made a lot of it. because
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  of the fact that you've been in office you made
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  a lot of it while you were secretary of state
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  actually so why aren't you putting money into
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  your own campaign i'm just curious well thank
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  you very much thank you we're going to get on
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  to one more question the question was about the
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  supreme court and i just want to quickly say
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  very quickly i respect the second amendment But
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  I believe there should be comprehensive background
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  checks, and we should close the gun show loophole
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  and close the online loophole. We have one more
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  question, Mrs. Clinton. We have one more question
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  from Ken Bone about energy policy. Ken? What
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  steps will your energy policy take to meet our
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  energy needs while at the same time remaining
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  environmentally friendly and minimizing job loss
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  for fossil power plant workers? Mr. Trump, two
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  minutes. Absolutely. I think it's such a great
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  question because... Energy is under siege by
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  the Obama administration, under absolute siege.
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  The EPA, Environmental Protection Agency, is
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  killing these energy companies. And foreign companies
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  are now coming in, buying so many of our different
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  plants, and then rejiggering the plant so that
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  they can take care of their oil. We are killing,
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  absolutely killing, our energy business in this
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  country. Now, I'm all for... alternative forms
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  of energy, including wind, including solar, etc.
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  But we need much more than wind and solar. And
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  you look at our miners. Hillary Clinton wants
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  to put all the miners out of business. There
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  is a thing called clean coal. Coal will last
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  for a thousand years in this country. Now we
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  have natural gas and so many other things because
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  of technology. We have unbelievable, we have
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  found over the last seven years, we have found
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  tremendous wealth right under our feet. So good,
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  especially when you have $20 trillion in debt.
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  I will bring our energy companies back. They'll
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  be able to compete. They'll make money. They'll
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  pay off our national debt. They'll pay off our
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  tremendous budget deficits, which are... are
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  tremendous. But we are putting our energy companies
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  out of business. We have to bring back our workers.
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  You take a look at what's happening to steel
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  and the cost of steel and China dumping vast
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  amounts of steel all over the United States,
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  which essentially is killing our steel workers
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  and our steel companies. We have to guard. our
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  energy companies. We have to make it possible.
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  The EPA is so restrictive that they are putting
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  our energy companies out of business. And all
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  you have to do is go to a great place like West
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  Virginia or places like Ohio, which is phenomenal,
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  or places like Pennsylvania, and you see what
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  they're doing to the people, miners and others,
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  in the energy business. It's a disgrace. Your
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  time is up. Thank you, sir. It's an absolute
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  disgrace. Secretary Clinton, two minutes. Well,
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  that was very interesting. First of all, China
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  is illegally dumping steel in the United States
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  and Donald Trump is buying it to build his buildings,
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  putting steel workers and American steel plants
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  out of business. That's something that I fought
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  against as a senator and that I would have a
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  trade prosecutor to make sure that we don't get
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  taken advantage of by China on steel or anything
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  else. You know, because it sounds like you're
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  in the business or you're aware of people in
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  the business, you know that we are now for the
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  first time ever energy independent. We are not
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  dependent upon the Middle East, but the Middle
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  East still controls a lot of the prices. So the
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  price of oil has been way down, and that has
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  had a damaging effect on a lot of the oil companies,
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  right? We are, however, producing a lot of natural
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  gas, which serves as a bridge to more... renewable
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  fuels and I think that's an important transition.
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  We've got to remain energy independent. It gives
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  us much more power and freedom than to be worried
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  about what goes on in the Middle East. We have
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  enough worries over there without having to worry
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  about that. So I have a comprehensive energy
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  policy but it really does include fighting climate
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  change because I think that is a serious problem
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  and I support moving toward more clean, renewable
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  energy as quickly as we can, because I think
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  we can be the 21st century clean energy superpower
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  and create millions of new jobs and businesses.
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  But I also want to be sure that we don't leave
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  people behind. That's why I'm the only candidate
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  from the very beginning of this campaign who
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  had a plan to help us revitalize coal country,
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  because those coal miners and their fathers and
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  their grandfathers They dug that coal out. A
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  lot of them lost their lives. They were injured.
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  But they turned the lights on, and they powered
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  our factories. I don't want to walk away from
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  them. So we've got to do something for them.
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  But the price of coal is down worldwide. So we
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  have to look at this comprehensively. And that's
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  exactly what I have proposed. I hope you will
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  go to HillaryClinton .com. And we have skipped
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  my entire policy. One more audience question.
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  We've sneaked in one more question, and it comes
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  from Carl Becker. My question to both of you
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  is, regardless of the current rhetoric, would
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  either of you name one positive thing that you
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  respect in one another? Mr. Trump, would you
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  like to go first? Well, I certainly will, because
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  I think that's a very fair and important question.
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  Look, I respect his children. His children are
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  incredibly able. and devoted. And I think that
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  says a lot about Donald. I don't agree with nearly
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  anything else he says or does, but I do respect
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  that. And I think that is something that as a
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  mother and a grandmother is very important to
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  me. So I believe that this election has become
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  in part so So conflict -oriented, so intense,
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  because there's a lot at stake. This is not an
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  ordinary time and this is not an ordinary election.
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  We are going to be choosing a president who will
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  set policy for not just four or eight years,
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  but because of some of the important decisions
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  we have to make here at home and around the world,
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  from the Supreme Court to energy and so much
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  else. And so there is... lot at stake it's one
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  of the most consequential elections that we've
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  had and that's why I've tried to put forth specific
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  policies and plans trying to get it off of the
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  personal and put it on to what it is I want to
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  do as president and that's why I hope people
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  will check on that for themselves so that they
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  can see that yes I've spent 30 years actually
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  maybe a little more working to help kids and
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  families and i want to take all that experience
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  to the white house and do that every single day
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  mr trump well i consider her statement about
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  my children to be a very nice compliment i don't
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  know if it was meant to be a compliment but it
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  is a great i'm very proud of my children and
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  they've done a wonderful job and they've been
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  wonderful wonderful kids so i consider that a
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  compliment i will say this about hillary she
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  doesn't quit She doesn't give up. I respect that.
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  I tell it like it is. She's a fighter. I disagree
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  with much of what she's fighting for. I do disagree
• 1:31:35
  with her judgment in many cases. But she does
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  fight hard, and she doesn't quit, and she doesn't
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  give up. And I consider that to be a very good
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  trait. Thanks to both of you. I want to thank
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  both the candidates. I want to thank the university
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  here. This concludes the town hall meeting. Our
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  thanks to the candidates, the commission, Washington
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  University, and to everybody who watched. Please
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  tune in on October 19th for the final presidential
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  debate that will take place at the University
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  of Nevada, Las Vegas. Good night, everyone.