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What Was It Like? | BIRD & BYRON On America's Got Talent · LOYAL TO THE CRAFT

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  SPEAKER_00: What is up, Adobe Radio?
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  SPEAKER_00: Mike Traprari and loyal to the craft here.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I was 15 years old, I started building drums in my grandmother's basement and I built a brand in the music industry that lasted over two decades.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want you to know that you too can chase your dreams.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today I'm joined by Burton Byron, who have been writing music now for close to a decade and have had some incredible things going on in their music career so far.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm so stoked to hear from you guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thanks so much for being on the show, guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a it's an honor and pleasure to meet you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Appreciate it, Mike.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for having us on.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, very happy to be on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, heck yeah.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: You guys are home now.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh tell me about this year so far.
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  SPEAKER_00: And did you ever imagine that you'd be talking about the things that you're talking about right now?
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  SPEAKER_00: Was that a was that ever part of the part of the journey and the goal?
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, looking back uh seven or eight years that we've been doing this, um, I don't think we imagined that we'd ever kind of got this far, get this far.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, this year has been a lot.
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  SPEAKER_03: We've been doing a lot of touring, recording, but um we're on America's Got Talent this year, which has been like a whole new experience for us.
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  SPEAKER_03: And uh it's been very exciting and positive and uh just really cool.
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  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's incredible.
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  SPEAKER_00: How how would you guys describe your sound?
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I've known about the band for a while.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think pretty pretty much since you guys started started writing and and putting music out.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, you you gotta have supportive parents and and uh your your mom was uh was telling me Steph Florenz, man, that the the champion music mom.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I I've been I've been listening to you guys for a bit, but like how would you describe your sound to those that haven't heard of you before?
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because it it is quite different, enough to get on America's Good Talent and and really I think have a pretty resounding uh experience so far from that.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'll I'll just second that, that she is definitely the champion of music and networking, and just I mean, that's how we started this project was uh she walked into the coffee shop in our hometown that Blake was working at and you know, linked us up, and uh we've been writing music ever since.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, shout out, shout out to my mom.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh but I would say when we first started the project, it was very blues heavy, uh, very stripped down, very raw.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and there's still some essence of that in the way we write, but it's sort of morphed into soul focused, uh 1960s, 70s, Motown uh kind of focused, but with some rock elements.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but we listen to everything, you know, like folk, hip-hop, reggae, and we try to incorporate everything that we can that makes sense in these songs.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you you guys met through your mom, or you were already friends and she had the idea for you guys to start writing together.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so we Nick and I have known each other for about 20 years.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, we used to play T-ball together, both of our dad's coach team, um, and then rec football.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_03: We played on uh uh like a Philadelphia Eagles rec football team.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, that was that was fun.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh but then uh we went off to college and kind of did our own separate thing, um, both doing music at the time.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and then I left school um and started pursuing a career while you finished up your uh degree in music.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um so I was just working at uh a coffee shop in Columbus, Ohio, and Steph came in and uh made the connection.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, it was like what, yeah, eight years ago.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, 2019, I think.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_03: That was like 22 or 23 ago.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: And when that happened, was it let's just write music together for fun?
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: We've got whether it be different emotions, different ideas, different creative outlets that we want to express.
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  SPEAKER_00: Was it really just a jam, or did you guys have your sights set on, hey, let's tour, let's make records, and let's try to do the thing?
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think um for me in college and probably for you in college, we just both kind of started producing records.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, like very lightly, I was in a band in school, put out a couple EPs and some singles and stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I had a really good time in the recording studio.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and just uh I took that and started making music at home.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and then, you know, once Nick and I started uh doing stuff, the ball was already rolling for both of us.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it was just like we wanted to continue to kind of create and push limits and stuff like that.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and our musical tastes really overlapped with one another, and it kind of just propelled us to want to make stuff that we liked, and uh, we just haven't stopped since that first night that we hung out and just started sharing music and uh yeah.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: How did America's Got Talent happen?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm sure a lot of a lot of musicians see it and dream about opportunities like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tell me all about how that came to came to light.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so um I was uh actually in Gatlinburg, Tennessee.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and a representative from the show uh kind of hit our line and said they wanted to talk to us.
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  SPEAKER_03: So we took a Zoom call and it was like an interview, like a first interview kind of thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and then we had a second interview, uh, and then we had an audition in Nashville um at a spot called um analog.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yep, at the Huddon Hotel downtown.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and as far as I know, there was a couple um uh like producers there.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um one of our producers now in the show was present among others.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and we did the song that we auditioned with, I'll always be there, and it did really well.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like brought down the house, it was cool.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_03: And then we did another one.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh and yeah, and like I think like a month later, they're just like, Yeah, we'd love to have you.
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  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, it was I there's a lot that goes into the process, you know, like the interviews are definitely the hardest thing.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but the performance was fun, and I'm glad it like translated.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's amazing.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_00: And and tell me more about the experience.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously, you guys had to get up and go.
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  SPEAKER_00: You had to go to Nashville, you had to go, and I'm sure there were a lot of these things you had to do pre-production meetings that part of my being in the music industry for a couple decades now, like I'm always I've always been infatuated with what it takes to put on a show, what it takes to put out a record.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people, I think, in the in the in the world see an album come out or see a music video or see you guys on AGT.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like that just happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: But there's months of work, and there's also months of possible disappointment and things not going the right way, or how you thought they were going to go, and also money and time and all the resources that you have to put up to be able to get to that point.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me about that whole journey of like the nerves and the you know, potential excitement, and was there anxiety around it?
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what was it like leading up to that to you finally walking out on stage?
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, uh the they flew us out, which was sick.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_03: So that like kind of cut the money part out, which was fine.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but we were um immediately placed in front of like five big cameras, and there was like you know, 75 people in a room um that was adjacent to the hall that we would have additionally well eventually be performing at.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um and we filmed for 12 hours, uh kind of just waiting for them to give us a call and stuff.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and then it was a pretty long day because we traveled in that morning.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_03: So we left Nashville at four o'clock in the morning, got into LA and immediately started onset at like 9 a.m.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_03: at PST.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um so we did that nine to nine, and then we didn't audition the first day, and then the second day, um, we came back, did another 10 hours of shooting, and we're like, oh my gosh, they're gonna push our audition.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we might have to stay here like a couple more days.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_03: And then um, yeah, and then they're like, time to audition, like in the 10th or 11th hour of that day.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_03: And then once we auditioned, it was like we were done.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_03: Like we didn't really have anything else to do, which is weird because like other people have other people had it experiences where they audition earlier in the day and they have to stick around.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, they kept us to the last second.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_03: I think we were like second to last that day.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um it was just exhausting, and it was like we were ready to perform by the time that we like got to that point.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and it's like we kicked all the nerves out of us like in the first day, and then like the second day, we were still pretty nervous, but it was just like, man, like let's just do this, like you know, you know, and uh it was cool, you know.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it's like not to dive too deep into the processes, but it's like you know, they'll want to get as much footage and b-roll as they can, so they'll you know, like act like they're gonna bring you on stage, and you're like, all right, let's let's go.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: And then they're like, All right, that was just for filming.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: And we're like, oh come on.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: So so by the time we were actually going on, we're like, are we really?
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: But then yeah, it came around and we're like we were side stage and ready to go, and and we killed it.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, yeah.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me about nerves and building the confidence to walk out on that stage.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: Do you think it's part repetition and just playing as many shows as you can, whether it's to one person or just the two of you, whoever's in your band?
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: And also, do you guys have any rituals that will pump each other up to just be like, yo, shake off the nerves, we're gonna go crush it, whether it's on TV or just a gig again, whether there's one person or a thousand people there?
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think um, like for us before shows and just like on the road, it's just like looking out for one another.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_03: You know, if you just like know people are just like looking out for you in your touring party, like that's really important.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and that like keeps me going on the road and it gives me confidence in shows because I know people have a back and whatever.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, I think you know, we've repetition is the biggest thing for us.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like we've um been playing music live in some sense for the past seven, eight years, so it's like uh you know, it we feel confident that we can walk on stage and just like crush.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like it but it's taken a lot of time to get to that point.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_03: So um it it this is working in our favor, you know, the AGT experience because we just have that repetition and experience.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um so it's been really fun.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um but traditions before a show, I don't know.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_03: Uh get there safely, you know, just like driving cross-country.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like we showed up in we showed up to a show in Syracuse.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, our alternator went out like three hours outside of Syracuse, and we had to stop at a dealership um to fix the alternator.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_03: And it took like two hours to fix the alternator.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_03: So we showed up two hours late to our show with like a minute to start, and then we had a great show.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just because like we were so you know not thinking about playing.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_03: It was just like keeping ourselves distracted.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_03: And then once we got there, we're just like, oh yeah, like let's play, you know.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: And we just kind of let loose, and it was like one of our better shows, oddly.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like the tradition of being a Tory musician is just sitting and waiting, you know.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's actually pretty fast to fix an alternator.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: You're lucky, I feel like, that you made the show because typically that would be something where you're like, I'm stranded, gotta gotta get a hotel room, don't want to have to pay for a hotel room here, don't want to miss the show, but glad to hear you guys made it.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: What what what's been some of the funnest and challeng most challenging and maybe even surprising parts of touring?
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's I'm sure you guys have a lot of stories like that, things potentially going wrong, but what what's been some of the stuff that you've just been like, yo, that's gonna be something I tell my grandkids one day?
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um the first day that we sent, uh, we were supporting an act called Ocean Alley last year.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_03: Shout out those guys, they're awesome.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but our first show was in St.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_03: Pete in uh Florida, and we drove in and like an hour outside of our hotel, our tire went flat in like you know, the sticks.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_03: We had no idea where we were.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_03: And um, we were pulling a trailer.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_03: I drive a Honda Odyssey, so pulling a trailer behind an Honda Odyssey, and when you have a flat and a trailer, um, it's like just crazy because you put the spare on and everything's off balance.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_03: So um we didn't know what to do, and it was like almost midnight.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so our drummer, Mike, Mike McLaughlin, um got on the shoulder of the highway and just like coasted to the hotel, which was like we we picked one that was closer, it was like 25 minutes away.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, it's just like you know, you like taking care of yourselves, you know.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_03: We're like all trying to get the goal finished and do the right thing.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's just some things just like come up.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no matter how much you prepare, you know, anything can happen on the road.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, just not trying to overreact in the moment and just taking it as it comes.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's like that's what helped us kind of get through that.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'll offer you a funny story though.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_03: When we were in Iowa, um at uh we were in Davenport playing um a show called The Raccoon Motel, or at the a venue called the Raccoon Motel, and there was like 15 people there.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we'd never played in Iowa before.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_03: And they had a guy introduce us that night, and he was like the town crier.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_03: And he like, he just like got up there.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_03: He's just like, I'm like, are you gonna use a mic?
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_03: He's just like, he's like, nah, I'm really loud.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, okay.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm just like, okay, all right.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_03: And then he got up there with like 10 people in the audience and just started screaming.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like he was just like, from natural DS.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_03: And then, you know, gave us all our names, and he would he'd pause really long.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_03: He'd be like, Bird.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: It was just such a funny way to start the show.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm I was like partially upset that we were only playing to 10 people, and I'm just like, how can I be mad right now, man?
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_03: That was so funny.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_03: You guys have footage of that?
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: Uh no.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: There might be one of our one of our bandmates might have it.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we gotta trick we gotta track that down so we can clip that with with that.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: That'd be amazing.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_03: He does it apparently, like he's hired at that venue, and he does it before every act, so it's just like, you know.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you're entering like a stadium about to fight or something.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, UFC, UFC, uh, but in Iowa.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was wild.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, uh just weird stuff like that happens all the time.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_03: Like we always talk to talk to our bandmates.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just like, if we're going out for a weekend, I'm just like, just wait for the weird thing to happen.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_03: And then it's always like one thing that is just like the strangest thing ever.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: But it's like hilarious, usually.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: So it makes the tours though, man.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: Those are the stories that like in the moment, sometimes they're definitely nerve-wracking.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: I was on the road once, and some guy at a gas station thought he could come in our van and started packing up all of his things that he was, you know, whether he was homeless or whatever it was, he was packing up his bags and started to try to come in our van.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: We shut the door and took off.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: Barely finished putting the gas, you know, uh cap back on, and the dude slashed our tires on our trailer.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so we're huffing it down the highway, and there's sparks flying out back, and we're like, we just got to get as far away from that guy as we can.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: But those are the stories.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: But like you said, staying safe and getting from point A to point B safely and as on time as possible, that's a win in uh in this phase of your band's career for sure.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: And props to you guys for going out and doing it.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like there's a lot of musicians, especially nowadays, where social media makes things look so polished and perfect.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, like I was saying earlier, you you see the thing and you think it just happened, but there was a lot of work, a lot of hurdles that were overcome to get to that point.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: And the fact that you guys are touring in your Odyssey, you know, I feel like that's one thing that some bands in their early days may be like, well, we can't tour because we don't have a vehicle, we don't have a van and trailer, we don't have a bus, we don't have a driver.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: Just go out and do it.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: Go out and do the thing.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: Put a trailer behind your Odyssey.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you don't get a trailer, maybe you don't have a hitch.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: Stack it in and rent gear or borrow gear.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: One more thing you may have to do to advance in each city, but props to you guys for doing that, man.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, appreciate it.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's been it's it's really hard, but it's rewarding in the end.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_03: Like the San Francisco, we just got up the road in the West Coast, and uh that's the first time touring the West Coast, and it's just like logistically is a whole different beast.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_03: And um like I'd never rented a van before like that.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um and like uh, you know, yeah, it's just different.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_03: Driving into San Francisco, crazy, like yeah, but it's rewarding, you know, like safety, made it home safe.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_03: Just like ah, that was that was a really cool time, you know.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_03: We survived.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: And you're and you're doing it and you're doing the thing.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: And and and I think that that's obviously the first step, but it is almost the same step you have to take throughout.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: Whether you are on a major record label and you have a team of X amount of people, you still have to be involved at a level to keep that passion and to keep that creativity that you guys had from day one within that.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: And talk to me about the patience with that, because I mean, at what point do you guys, and for the young musicians listening to this, like the realities of it, at what point do you stop working the other job?
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: You know, at what point does your job not let you even have that job anymore?
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: Because, like you were saying about America's got talent, had you guys been having to stay there for another couple days to film, would that have messed up your regular nine to five job back at home?
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, talk to me a little bit about the patience and things that you have to give up and the communication you have to have with the people that are kind of on this journey with you.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, it's just uh we feel like, you know, within the next six months is like a time when we're probably gonna be able to kind of move away from our jobs and be able to do that.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um we have some just like financial pushes coming from uh like an upcoming label deal and hopefully a publishing deal uh combined with that.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: So yes, we were like really close to getting to that point.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_03: But uh prior to that, I mean, I've ran through the gauntlet of jobs.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I've worked at Bob Evans, got fired, worked at Jenny's, got fired, um, I worked at Whole Foods, got fired, I worked at drugstore coffee in Nashville, got fired.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um and then I work at a burger shop right now in uh Nashville um uh that has treated me really well.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_03: And they understand me as a musician and they have like allowed me to go on tour and stuff like that.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_03: But uh yeah, like people like I have balanced service industry work uh the whole time I've been doing my career in music.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_03: Um and like you know, it was really upsetting when I would get fired from jobs just because I was going out and doing those things.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: But, you know, to the young listeners, like those were risks that I took for my career um to benefit and get to the point of where I am now.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_03: It they weren't always educated risks, but taking educated risks um is a good thing to do uh if you really think you want to do it.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um and you know, I was just rolling with punches like that, but it it eventually got me to a point um where I did find somewhere where I fit and I could balance these things.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like trial and error until you can figure out your pocket where like you can work on the art and still support yourself.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_03: Because like in this day and age, it's like you know, it's really hard.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like the um just like money and stuff, like uh, you know, paying bills while also going out on the road and stuff like that.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: But if you want to do it, you just have to understand that um the risk that you'll have to take in terms of like financial hits and like ego hits, you know, because you just gotta fail a bunch.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um and we haven't really like really won yet, you know.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's like we're we're doing well uh right now, but it's like um if you're gonna get into it, there's like no end.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like it's a continuous effort.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_03: So 100%.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just roll over, you know.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: What were some of the conversations that you had, or or let me rephrase that?
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: You were fired from multiple places.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure that some of them knew you were touring and potentially needing to leave from every now and then.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: What did you learn from that?
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like, tell me, walk me through the communication of getting this new job at the spot that's taking care of you now.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Was it kind of a precedent up front of like, hey, I may need to leave for weeks at a time?
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Or how how and what I'm trying to get at is how can these young musicians and creatives find a job like that where they're out there, you know, they're definitely out there, but you have to find them, but you also have to put yourself out there to attract that opportunity, but also communicate clearly and well so that they understand you're not just gonna leave and never come back.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: But if we can find this arrangement where I can go on tour for a couple weeks, I'm gonna come back and give it give it my all.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: What were those conversations like for you?
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_03: The two times that I left jobs or got fired in Nashville, I jumped the gun.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I thought uh, you know, falsely that uh, you know, we were gonna be able to float for a little while.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, like for example, we got a tour with Duran Jones and uh like out of the blue, and I couldn't really tell my management that I was just gonna leave for two weeks.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: So I just left.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um so yeah.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_03: So that you know, that was you know, educated risk.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_03: I had to go do that tour.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_03: That's Duran Jones.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you need to take that opportunity.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but and then Whole Foods, I I thought again that um, you know, I something happened where I was like, oh, we're gonna be all right for a little bit, and then I needed to get a job like right after.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so it's just like I wish I had more foresight.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um but then the foresight would have wouldn't have led me here.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_03: So it's it's like you don't really you don't really know.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_03: But in terms of getting like jobs, if you're trying to be in the music industry and be in the service industry at the same time, um being very humble about your art uh is really important, being a very good communicator to your coworkers uh and treating your boss well, whether you like them or not, because uh they will eventually pay your bills on top of this.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_03: So it's just like you know, uh just like being generally nice to people and being prompt uh is really important because the service industry is like you know, full of people like us.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_03: And for as many people who have like quit jobs like me, it's like it's all over the place, you know.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_03: So it's just like how it is.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: And since we started the project, I worked for a film and TV company out in Los Angeles, and we actually lived in LA for a while while I was working at that job in the office, and then COVID happened and went remote, and I still kept that job, but I was lucky enough to have a team that was, you know, music focused in the TV sphere that, you know, they saw what I was doing with the band and supported it.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: And having that team at work that, you know, would push me and support me while also working at that job really, you know, kept this project being able to keep going while also I could work, you know, trying to figure out that balance.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: And then um after a while there, then it kind of just naturally happened that we started picking up more and more, and uh it just made sense to focus on the band and uh leave that.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: But finding a you know job in the same industry was uh kind of complementary to what we were doing and gave us opportunities in TV and film, and um so if you could, you know, kind of bridge that to kind of benefit yourself, it it it really helped us too.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a hundred percent.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: And like you were saying about communication with your coworkers at the at the regular call it job that you're working, how important it is it for the communication internally with the band?
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, talking about edge taking educated risks, you guys seem to be on the same page there.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: But for musicians that are maybe just joining a band, forming a band together, I see more often than not, a lot of drama happens when people aren't on the same page.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: And one person's view of success and their vision and strategy to get there can be very different than somebody else's.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: So if Nick, you were like, hey, we're gonna go take this tour, but you can't get off work, what do you do in a situation like that?
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, have you guys found yourself and having to have those conversations internally?
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: And if so, how have you how have you worked through them?
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we we had to do that a couple times.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_03: What but that but it was just like really like one-off shows uh where Nick's job like got in the way at the time.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: And then stuff with mine too.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_03: And that was like early on in our career, like probably four or five years ago.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um and you know, we would get on each other.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like we're both fighting for um like this ability to do this as a career, and it's just like, yeah, we definitely had arguments about that.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: And it's just like that is the reality of it.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: But we're friends and you know, we've grown together.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so it's just like you have to kind of be, you know, the end goal is like to make music for the rest of your life, and shit's gonna come excuse me, stuff's gonna come up, and uh, you know, you just have to make you just have to like work it out, you know.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's like it's like like in somewhat, you know, it's a business partnership.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_03: And what is a business partnership?
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_03: Marriage, you know.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like it's it's kind of like that.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_03: You just have to roll with the punches and kind of do things together, even though it sucks sometimes, you know.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the the the marriage part of it is so true.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that people forming new relationships, you're never gonna know unless you try.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: And then when you're trying and you're going and doing the things, communication is is paramount because not only are you chasing this dream that seems almost impossible at times when you're you know, tires flat or you're almost gonna miss it, miss a show and you're having to pay for a you know new alternator or whatever that may be, you're constantly tested and you're in close quarters.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I will say, even when you're in a bus, the dream for me as a kid was like, gotta get touring in a bus.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's the ultimate dream.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: And then I got to that point a couple of times and I was just like, oh, this is cool, but like it also has its share of like really not so fun components of it.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: You're in a very small space with 12 other or 11 other people, breathing recycled air, sleeping in a really small area.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: You can't have a private phone call anywhere, and you're in it for most of the time.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: How have you guys kind of like fared that?
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: Because obviously it's the two of you that were on AGT, but you tour with a band, you've got a drummer, you've got other musicians and people now that are starting to be become part of your team.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: How important do you think that kind of level set in communication is?
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think for me personally, I'm getting better at it.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like, even on this run, like I would tell Nick, I'm just like, I need some time myself, like after we get off the road.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: And Nick would just be like, Cool, check, do whatever.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_03: It's like for me, it's like I need like a good two or three hours after we do like a tough drive, whether to just like go on a walk, get something to eat, like reset, or like you know, take a phone call.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_03: And that's like a private time where I can do that.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_03: And then you know, we begin the work again once the show starts.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, that like sliver of private time wherever you can get it on the road is like important for the continuity of just like the the a good positive run.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: Because you don't, you know, if if I don't get that private time, sometimes I get like a little caddy, and you know, I don't it's not like it's just how I am, and I just need to like step away for a second, you know.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's the truth.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: But understand just oh sorry.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: No, you go ahead, Nick.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I was just gonna say, and just the dynamic of the group is so important too.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's like I it probably goes with anything you're doing in life, but like finding the right people that can gel with you and gel with each other and not cause like a you know, like a rift in the whole like we're lucky to find great guys, great musicians in Nashville that we love to hang out with, you know, outside of just doing the music thing.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: So it makes these long trips more enjoyable and not, you know, not as stressful as it probably could be if you, you know, but work with someone a little tougher.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, totally.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: Going back to supportive parents.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, tell me about your upbringing.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, Nick, I I've known your family for a while, working with your brother Joel, uh building them drums back in the day, and just really getting to know him and and and being in that drum community, super tight-knit, meeting your parents and going to Columbus, Ohio, doing shows like that.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me about your upbringing and some of the some of the things that really set you on the path of even thinking that this is remotely possible, because there's sadly a lot of parents and guardians and teachers that think that these crazy ideas of starting your own business as a teenager or starting a band, you know, when you're working like a quote unquote real job and things like that is just unattainable.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: And it really does take the parent guardian community mindset of going, like, no, you should do that.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you'd be crazy not to.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me about how that has fared for you guys and in really building that foundation of getting to this point of like, okay, cool, we're like kind of close to to doing this thing full time.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_03: I think I'd I there's a specific moment when my parents' minds kind of changed in terms of my voice.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: I was in college and I was in an a cappella choir.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I had like a big solo and a song, and it like went off really well.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_03: And like people are like turning to them, like in the audience, they're just like, is that your son?
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_03: Like all this stuff, and they're just like, they're like, wait, what is happening?
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_03: And then that gave them confidence for me to like go and chase like a solo career for like a year before I met Nick.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_03: And then that gave them more confidence with the support of Stephanie to go and continue that.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_03: And then things just started rolling, and it's taken a long time for them, I think, to like really uh like true belief, like we're gonna like, you know, we could actually like play like a theater one day and like you know, play amphitheaters and stuff like that.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_03: But it takes time, and you like my parents have always been supportive, no matter what.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_03: But the convincing part of like being like, Oh yeah, this is like this might be an actual career for uh my son, uh that takes a while, you know.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, and like you said, Mike, uh you know, my mom and dad personally, and like you can, I mean, my mom has the dream big mentality attitude, and she's always had that.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: So anything I was like interested in, she would be like, all right, what can we do to make it happen?
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, so it's I was very fortunate uh for both my parents to have that kind of attitude.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: And when I was in high school, I previously wanted to go to school to study medicine, and like I didn't really have a big interest in music, but then something switched in high school, and I'm like, all right, I actually want to go to music school, and I could tell that they were like, We're not sure about, but they ultimately came around like all right, let's let's do it if you want to do it.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so then yeah, now we're in this place that we're you know playing to people around the country, and it's like I wouldn't change it for you know anything.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, well probably remember go ahead, Mike.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_03: No, you no, you dude, keep going um my sophomore year of college that same year, like probably five months before that, I literally called my parents crying because I was just like, I don't think I'm supposed to be here, like I should be doing music.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_03: And they're just like stick it out for the rest of the year.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um but yeah, that's just crazy to think back on that.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's it's it's a testament to, you know, obviously you guys will pay it forward and and as you grow in in scale and succeed, hopefully you have these words of wisdom for fans, and especially, you know, loyal to the craft is advocating for the youth to, you know, give them the motivation and inspiration and tools and resources to chase their dreams in music and make it happen as as tough as it is.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: And like I said, there's a lot of especially in schools, you know, music education is one of the first things cut, the arts are cut, and it's probably I would dare say one of the more most important things.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: Certainly, sports and physical activity, super important health and mental mental wellness, but music is a huge, huge uh opportunity for mental wellness and understanding chasing dreams and things like that.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: And having supportive parents from the get, you know.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Nick, your mom and dad flew Joel out to Massachusetts to the drum factory to like design the kit where like 99.9% of everybody else is like, I'm gonna email you guys and put my order in.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: And like my dad did the same for me when I was a teenager.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: He'd fly me places, he would get me, he got me a van when I was in a band.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_00: So he was like, I want I want to make sure that you're traveling as safely as you can.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna be out there on the road, like don't want you breaking down, you know, crashing and things like that.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: And it really instilled in me that that pay it forward, give back purpose.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, to even when loyal to the craft was starting, your mom was reaching out saying, Hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna connect you with so-and-so on LinkedIn.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: And it actually ended up leading to a couple incredible brand partnerships.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: We worked with Fender uh because your mom linked us with a couple people she found on LinkedIn and was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sync you with these guys.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, and it went so fast.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: And then a couple weeks later, I was like, Hey, thanks again for that.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how do you know these guys?
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, I don't know.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: I just saw them on LinkedIn, sent them a message, and connected you guys.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, dang.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, like for first of all, like props uh to to Mrs.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: Lorenz for for doing that.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh incredible, but also that is what it takes.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like that is what it takes.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: Put yourself in the room, find things, Nick, like you said, where you can bridge the two things together, you know, whether whether it's music or creating a brand, like find ways to have your side hustle facilitate the thing you want to ultimately do.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and yeah, it sounds like you guys have had great, great families that support.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure they're going crazy seeing you guys on TV.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, Nick, your mom was there.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, was any other friends and family there?
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: It was just was it just your mom?
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh for the initial audition, yeah, it was just just my mom there.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_01: But she was able to FaceTime uh Blake's mom on the phone while while we were going and that was really cool.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_03: And there's a we have a new episode coming up.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_03: I guess if this airs in September, the callback episode, um, you'll be able to see um my family members and my fiance as well.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: Cool, cool.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: So when when will that air?
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: Do you guys know?
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: Uh August 11th.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, cool.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, but uh gosh, that's a week away from when we're filming this, but by the time this is out, you can go back and watch both episodes with these guys on there.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: And uh how how are you mentally uh preparing?
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: If you have a fiance, congratulations.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, how how how are you preparing yourself mentally to the band's gonna explode after this second airing?
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: And it sounds like you guys have some incredible deals on the horizon.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um is that changing things or how how are you starting to feel about that?
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um we're both feeling like really creative right now, which is good, like because we don't always feel super creative.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um so we're writing an album right now.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um we have like four in the bag and we'll try to get to 12.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but that's like the preparation for all of this.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like, you know, we want we want AGT to do as well as it can and to be able to connect back to the city of Columbus and um be able to bring our families up with us.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_03: But on the back end, like we want to make a badass record, and like that'll seal the deal for us in terms of like if we can if we can get these fans from NBC, like great, you know, that'd be awesome.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_03: But like to have a a really cool, well-produced record behind it, you know, that's the main goal.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like preparing for that is like on top of everything, it's like we want a sweet record.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_03: So it's just like getting there, and that takes time.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: So walk me through that creative process.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think it is right now about this moment in time that it has you both feeling super creative?
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: Is it is it preparation?
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: Is it the things that you're inspired by just coming at you?
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like a little bit of both.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_00: How do you guys kind of get to that creative spot?
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it's just we were spending so much time on the road.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh and you know, in LA shooting the show, and we we're not in the studio as much as we usually were like the previous year.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: So it's just like we're getting all these ideas and we're, you know, kind of storing them and you know, keeping them ready.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: So when we are able to go in the studio, we're like, oh, like now we can release what we've been kind of holding in, and like having all these opportunities on stage, it's like we're just kind of thinking bigger and like how can we step these records up?
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_01: How can we step the sound up?
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just really inspiring to us.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, we'll just see how this record what direction it goes in.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_00: But so far it's really positive.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: I know you guys go by Bird and Byron on stage.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's how you introduce yourself.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: Where did the name come from?
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: How did you come up with that?
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um uh bird.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_03: My mom said when I was born I was a little undersized, I was like four pounds, seven ounces.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and my mom said I looked like a newborn baby Robin.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_03: So that's that's what that's what the bird comes from.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and uh when we met back up in 2019 when we were starting just starting the duo, uh, we were trying to figure out the name, and the duo aspect felt really important.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: So the alliteration of the bees was kind of a cool idea.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, what could it be like bird and what?
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_01: Bobby.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, bird and bobby.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but uh when I was in LA for a semester in college, I had studied James Dean a lot, and he was really influential in my life and just his filmography and just how he lived life, and his middle name was Byron, and I'm like, oh, that's kind of cool.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: So like we just stuck with Byron Byron.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's sick.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: I can see it on the marquees, I can see it, I can see it on the headlines.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's just it's a sick name, and introducing yourself in that way, that that duo, as you said, that aspect is really awesome.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_00: Well, cool, guys.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for your time.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_00: I know you're super busy.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of exciting things going on.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate you taking the time to share your journey and the knowledge and lessons that you've learned so far.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, can't wait to see you guys on America's Get Talent again for round two.
• 40:29
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• 40:32
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• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and yeah, where can we find you guys?
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_00: And are you open for DMs?
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: Are you open for kids reaching out to you asking you for more advice if they're listening to this episode?
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:46
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• 40:49
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• 41:00
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, happy to answer any questions that any of y'all got.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_03: So sick.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you guys again so much.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: Best of luck with everything.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_00: Can't wait to follow up with you in six months and hear about all the new things that are happening and wish you guys nothing but the best and uh much love and keep chasing the dream.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, please, Mike.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for having us.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, bro.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, guys.