Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / There's a data breach at Canadian schools. What do we know_
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Multiple Canadian universities are dealing with a data breach. Hackers
- 0:04Speaker 1: targeted the Canvas program. It's used to manage grades and
- 0:08Speaker 1: assignments for thousands of schools in North America. Now Post
- 0:12Speaker 1: earlier this month indicated that some identifying information of Canvas users,
- 0:16Speaker 1: such as names, email addresses, student ideas and messages, may
- 0:19Speaker 1: have been impacted. The hackers are threatening to leak the
- 0:23Speaker 1: data unless the schools pay a ransom. So how significant
- 0:28Speaker 1: is this and what needs to be done to prevent
- 0:30Speaker 1: these attacks from happening in the future. For more on that,
- 0:33Speaker 1: we've now reached Luke Connolly in Ottawa. He is a
- 0:36Speaker 1: threat intelligence analyst at mcsoft to cybersecurity Company. Thanks so
- 0:40Speaker 1: much for making time for us today.
- 0:43Speaker 2: My pleasure.
- 0:44Speaker 1: When we talk about the types of information that could
- 0:46Speaker 1: be impacted here, names, emails, student numbers, messages. How concerning
- 0:51Speaker 1: is that?
- 0:54Speaker 2: Well, very concerning, because the information can be used by
- 0:58Speaker 2: criminals to extort individuals. They can take the information and
- 1:01Speaker 2: make it available on the web for other criminals to
- 1:05Speaker 2: take advantage of, and it can be used for, for example,
- 1:09Speaker 2: fraudulent creation of credit accounts of individuals. So there's all
- 1:12Speaker 2: sorts of ways that the information can be put to
- 1:15Speaker 2: bad use.
- 1:17Speaker 1: When we talk about the security systems that are in
- 1:19Speaker 1: place at multiple schools that we're talking about here, including
- 1:23Speaker 1: some in Canada, I mean, where's the weak link here?
- 1:27Speaker 1: Was the security simply not tight enough?
- 1:31Speaker 2: Yeah? In this case, it appears that there is a
- 1:33Speaker 2: weakness with the software which is being used by multiple schools.
- 1:38Speaker 2: So the software is Canvas, It's from a company called Instructure,
- 1:42Speaker 2: and it's used by thousands of schools globally, and there
- 1:46Speaker 2: appears to have been a weakness in that software as
- 1:51Speaker 2: a service offering and the thread actors, the criminals, were
- 1:54Speaker 2: able to gain access to the software provider and in
- 1:58Speaker 2: doing so, gained access to all of their school customers,
- 2:01Speaker 2: including schools across Canada and the US and worldwide, as
- 2:05Speaker 2: well as universities.
- 2:07Speaker 1: What do we know so far about who's behind this attack?
- 2:11Speaker 2: So a claim was made by a group called Shiny Hunters.
- 2:16Speaker 2: They're generally acknowledged to be a group of teenagers and
- 2:19Speaker 2: young adults based in the United Kingdom and the United States,
- 2:23Speaker 2: and they have a site on the Dark Web where
- 2:26Speaker 2: they post which victims they claim to have breached in
- 2:32Speaker 2: order to try to pressure the victims to pay a
- 2:35Speaker 2: ransom to promise not to release the data which was stolen.
- 2:39Speaker 2: So Shiny Hunters, on their dark website as recently as
- 2:43Speaker 2: yesterday had two statements regarding the Canva breach and they
- 2:48Speaker 2: were threatening to release the data originally on May the seventh,
- 2:54Speaker 2: and they revised that to May the twelfth, and that
- 2:57Speaker 2: those revisions took place yesterday, and as of this morning,
- 3:01Speaker 2: the post is no longer on their dark website, so
- 3:04Speaker 2: they've removed it.
- 3:06Speaker 1: When we talk about these ransoms, of course, their demands
- 3:09Speaker 1: to pay in order to not have that sensitive information
- 3:12Speaker 1: leaked out, I mean, how frequently are ransoms paid in
- 3:16Speaker 1: order to keep the information private? Just how lucrative is
- 3:20Speaker 1: this sort of a crime for the people who might
- 3:21Speaker 1: be behind it.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Well, I think I hope that they're being paid. The
- 3:27Speaker 2: ransoms are being paid increasingly infrequently, the reason being, and
- 3:33Speaker 2: the demands can be anywhere from tens of thousands of
- 3:35Speaker 2: dollars to millions of dollars, depending on the organization and
- 3:39Speaker 2: the size of the organization. The reason that I say
- 3:42Speaker 2: I hope that they're not paid is that number one,
- 3:45Speaker 2: it encourages the criminals to continue to look for new victims,
- 3:49Speaker 2: and number two, the payments actually fund their development of
- 3:53Speaker 2: new techniques which are used to exploit new victims. So
- 3:57Speaker 2: it's a sort of a a cascading set of events
- 4:02Speaker 2: that increasingly puts new individuals and companies at risk.
- 4:08Speaker 1: When we talk about just how sophisticated these criminals are,
- 4:11Speaker 1: I mean, how challenging is that then for law enforcement
- 4:14Speaker 1: to stay on top of this for there to actually
- 4:17Speaker 1: be arrests or charges or prosecution when we're talking about
- 4:20Speaker 1: this sort of thing.
- 4:22Speaker 2: So there's two different aspects there. The sophistication is one question,
- 4:27Speaker 2: and the sophistication of their attack is often this group
- 4:32Speaker 2: in particular, their attacks are based on largely social engineering.
- 4:37Speaker 2: So what that means is they pretend that they's someone
- 4:41Speaker 2: they're not. They'll call up a company or the help
- 4:44Speaker 2: desk of a company, and they will try to convince
- 4:47Speaker 2: the person on the other end of the phone that
- 4:49Speaker 2: they're an employee who's lost access to their account, and
- 4:52Speaker 2: thereby they'll try to convince the help center, the call
- 4:56Speaker 2: center to grant them access, and then once they're inside,
- 4:59Speaker 2: they'll start to do their undertake their criminal activity and
- 5:02Speaker 2: steal data. The other aspect to the sophistication is how
- 5:06Speaker 2: do they stop law enforcement from identifying them? And that's
- 5:09Speaker 2: really a question of how effective is their operational security.
- 5:13Speaker 2: How do they make sure that they don't leave a
- 5:17Speaker 2: very obvious set of breadcrumbs which lead back to them
- 5:22Speaker 2: and Shiny Hunters being a loose affiliation of individuals. There
- 5:27Speaker 2: have been some individuals have been identified and taken to justice,
- 5:34Speaker 2: but they're obviously still more out there and they to
- 5:36Speaker 2: this point, they've been fairly effective at maintaining their anonymity.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Very Finally, I wanted to ask you, Luke, I mean,
- 5:42Speaker 1: what can individuals do to protect themselves from becoming a
- 5:47Speaker 1: victim to this sort of a crime.
- 5:50Speaker 2: Well, from a social engineering perspective, if you're being asked
- 5:56Speaker 2: to provide something some personal information, count information, anything like
- 6:01Speaker 2: that over the phone, you have to be really suspicious
- 6:04Speaker 2: that whoever you're speaking with is who they say they are.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Number one, number two in terms of account protection, there
- 6:14Speaker 2: are many, many, many instances of account credentials being stolen
- 6:19Speaker 2: and made available on the dark web, and to protect
- 6:22Speaker 2: against that, it's really necessary to make sure that all
- 6:26Speaker 2: accounts have multi factor authentication as well as a strong password.
- 6:30Speaker 2: So multi factor authentication is that technology that requires you
- 6:34Speaker 2: when you're trying to sign into an account, whether it's
- 6:38Speaker 2: Facebook or Google or Canvas, it requires you to not
- 6:42Speaker 2: only enter your user name and password, but also you'll
- 6:46Speaker 2: get a notification on your phone or you'll have to
- 6:48Speaker 2: use your phone to enter a specific sequence of digits
- 6:53Speaker 2: in order to confirm your login. So multi factor authentication
- 6:58Speaker 2: is a really key way that you and ensure that
- 7:02Speaker 2: unauthorized access is not gained to your account.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Some good information there for folks. Thanks so much for
- 7:08Speaker 1: this conversation, Luke. We appreciate your time.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Luke Connelly is a threat intelligence analyst for mcsoft. He
- 7:15Speaker 1: joined us from Ottawa. Thanks again,