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Kolten Wong on retiring, World Series blunder, Cardinals clubhouse · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously walking in Saint Louis has a or
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Speaker 1: of like baseball, you know, so I do my whole thing.
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Speaker 2: I signed with the cards there like you're going to
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Speaker 2: Quad Cities Iowa, and I'm like.
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Speaker 3: Justin after retirement about a month ago, after eleven seasons.
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Speaker 3: First off, congratsmant we haven't had it own since?
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Speaker 2: No, I appreciate it, man.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was one of those things where I was
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Speaker 1: having more fun with my kids than I was, you know,
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Speaker 1: enjoying the game.
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Speaker 2: So I just knew that it was time. You know.
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Speaker 2: I was always kind of the guy that just wanted
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Speaker 2: to be at the field all day every day.
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Speaker 1: So once once I had the kids and realized that
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to be with them all day every day.
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Speaker 2: It was just it was an easy decision.
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Speaker 3: Okay, And how does it feel since? Right, so it's
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Speaker 3: been about a month. Do you miss playing? Do you
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Speaker 3: watch much ball? Are you trying to like kind of
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Speaker 3: take a break, cleanse and just total family time hanging out.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, are the kids watching baseball, because that
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Speaker 3: usually obviously leads to you're watching more games.
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Speaker 1: If that's the case, Yeah, trying to keep it, keep
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Speaker 1: it kind of you know, as a part of the
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Speaker 1: that's just been our lives forever. You know, that's kind
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Speaker 1: of what gave us the life that we have right now.
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Speaker 1: So try to make sure that my kids, you know,
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Speaker 1: understand what dad did and you know, regardless of I mean,
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Speaker 1: they're only two and three years old, so you know,
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Speaker 1: they don't really remember anything. But yeah, just you know,
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Speaker 1: keeping them around the game. But for me, I just
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Speaker 1: I miss mostly just being around the guys. You know,
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Speaker 1: the game is cool, like, but I feel like I've
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Speaker 1: been in pretty much every situation you can be in
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Speaker 1: the in a baseball game, you know, So it's just
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Speaker 1: like for me, it's just that camaraderie with the guys
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Speaker 1: being able to to you know, talk to smack here
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Speaker 1: and there and the little, you know, chatter is what
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Speaker 1: I missed the most.
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Speaker 3: Remember, So last night we went to dinner and you
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Speaker 3: had like this group Cheff Field Dexter Fowler who joined
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Speaker 3: us later. Is it those moments where you know, Chef's
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Speaker 3: setting up shop and you're getting all the stories.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, when Chef talks, I just mute, you know, I
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Speaker 1: sit back and I just let him talk.
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Speaker 2: I Mean, it's just crazy when you hear him.
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Speaker 1: You hear you know, Drew, you know how they're talking
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Speaker 1: in the game, and the confidence that just kind of
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Speaker 1: just oozes out of them.
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Speaker 2: It's like, man, you understand why these guys are great.
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Speaker 2: It's just they just have that aura with them.
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Speaker 4: Would you even better if you if you were that confident?
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Speaker 4: I think so he was. I played with them. He was.
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Speaker 4: He was confident, cocky little fellow.
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Speaker 5: Everybody has a certain level confidence, but the game will
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Speaker 5: beat you down. It didn't seem like Chef. The game
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Speaker 5: didn't beat him down. It seemed like he beat the
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Speaker 5: game down.
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Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 1: Hearing him talk about his stats just like a triple
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Speaker 1: crown winter eighteen years old for spring training and that's
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Speaker 1: just unheard of, you know, hearing that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just how great these guys were. It's
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Speaker 2: just funny to hear them talk about, you know, how
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Speaker 2: they hate compared.
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Speaker 1: To you know that the hitting mechanics nowadays on these
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Speaker 1: you know, hating coaches all, you know, talk about It's
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Speaker 1: just it's it's totally different.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, that's why these guys are great.
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Speaker 3: Have you conceptualized what you did for your career, because
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Speaker 3: sometimes guys are hesitant to talk too much about individually
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Speaker 3: how things went, and even from a team perspective, just
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Speaker 3: to reflect too much until it's done. Now you can
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Speaker 3: officially look back and be like, this is the moment
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Speaker 3: I'm most proud of. These are my top memories, any regrets, stories,
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Speaker 3: et cetera. So have you gotten to process some of that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm mostly just proud of the way
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Speaker 2: it kind of wents. You know, obviously I saw it off.
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Speaker 2: Everybody knows I got picked off in the World Series,
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Speaker 2: you know, so.
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Speaker 1: It kind of starting from that, you know, your first
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Speaker 1: taste of big league ball.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's like going lost season, knowing that, man,
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Speaker 2: how was that guy? You know, and to look ten
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Speaker 2: years later be like, man, I had a ten year career.
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Speaker 2: After that, I thought I was done.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking at I remember being twenty two
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Speaker 1: years old, just sitting in my room just like looking
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Speaker 1: at the wall and be like, man, I'm done playing
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Speaker 1: ball before you get started.
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Speaker 2: This is crazy. You know. It's just just proud of
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Speaker 2: the fact.
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Speaker 1: That I was able to kind of continue to progress
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Speaker 1: and not let that affect me as much.
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Speaker 5: What what helped you get through that the most? Because
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Speaker 5: kids go through ups and downs. Normally, the kids that
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Speaker 5: make the big leagues are just the best everywhere. You're
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Speaker 5: the best in high school, you're the best in college
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Speaker 5: and minor leagues. That's how you get to the big leagues.
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Speaker 5: Who helped you or what helped you get through that,
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Speaker 5: because if people look back, that is an iconic moment
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Speaker 5: that is could have been, like you said, you round
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Speaker 5: your career.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, I think it was just honestly, without
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Speaker 1: bringing that I had, you know, it was nothing was
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Speaker 1: given to me my whole life.
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Speaker 2: So for me, it was always about prove people wrong.
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Speaker 1: And that was another, I guess, a big stepping zone
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Speaker 1: for me to prove people wrong. It's like, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow this to you know, basically
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Speaker 1: describe who I am as a player.
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Speaker 2: You know, I've never it's.
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Speaker 1: It's funny to say what I've never struggled in baseball,
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Speaker 1: you know, until this point. And you know, so for me,
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Speaker 1: it was, you know, it was a tough pill to
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Speaker 1: swallow at the time. I was still young, so trying
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Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, how to go about it.
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Speaker 1: But you know it, honestly, people ask me to today,
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Speaker 1: they're like, you know, do you do regret that. I'm like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't change it. You know, I appreciate that
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Speaker 1: it happened because it made the man that I am
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Speaker 1: and maybe have that hunger in that grind to continue
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Speaker 1: to push every single day and knowing that I wanted to.
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Speaker 2: Prove people wrong.
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Speaker 6: Magneteen, he helped you through. Let's be honest. Yeah, they
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Speaker 6: you and I know that it was him that got
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Speaker 6: you through.
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Speaker 3: All that Stuff's favorite manager.
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Speaker 6: It was either that or you know, you grew You
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Speaker 6: grew up in Hawaii. You played at the University of Hawaii.
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Speaker 6: When you were a little kid, you watched me in
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Speaker 6: the Hawaii Winterly you were like two years old at
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Speaker 6: the time. And then you strive to be a play
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Speaker 6: on the same field as me, and.
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Speaker 4: Then we became teammates. So I mean, they know it
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Speaker 4: could have been one or the other.
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Speaker 2: I tell you what, that was the best time by
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Speaker 2: life when you came over.
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Speaker 1: It was so funny, you know, just just like the
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Speaker 1: things that you did in the clubhouse too. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I won't tell some of the jokes that you pulled
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Speaker 1: on some of the guys, specifically Chicago.
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Speaker 4: We talked about it.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you had. Everybody shook in that club. Boss.
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Speaker 1: When that thing went out, We're like, there's cops had
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Speaker 1: everything here.
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Speaker 2: You know, It's just it's crazy.
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Speaker 6: But yeah, I've I've said this Moore, but I thank y'all,
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Speaker 6: like you, John Daniel, like even Patton or Niche sorry
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Speaker 6: John Jay Daniel descalso Colton, Matt Adams, Lackey came over,
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Speaker 6: Lancelin was there, you know, even Wayno and.
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Speaker 4: Carp In Holiday.
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Speaker 6: But y'all made baseball fun because I came from the
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Speaker 6: Red Sox and it was just it wasn't fun there. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: and I came over to y'all and it was like, oh, man,
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Speaker 6: I could kind of be a little looser. Not that
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Speaker 6: they looked at that and we're like, man, this guy.
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Speaker 6: It was kind of like it looked at me, like
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Speaker 6: what's wrong with this guy? Right? But it was fun
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Speaker 6: because they had some young guys that wanted to have
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Speaker 6: fun and you guys weren't really allowed to do.
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Speaker 4: It that much. So I was like, yeah, you guys
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Speaker 4: follow me, we'll have a hun and we still played.
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Speaker 6: Well, we lost in the NLCS, but y'all made and
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Speaker 6: I played two more years after that because you guys
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Speaker 6: kind of made me.
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Speaker 4: Man, I kind of like baseball, so like I like
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Speaker 4: being around the guys and this and that.
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Speaker 6: So I I think, like, like I said, you, John
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Speaker 6: descalso Lance, you guys were the young guys on that team.
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Speaker 6: But you guys to me, I was like, Oh, this
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Speaker 6: is fun because these guys, these guys can still do
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Speaker 6: things as youngsters. They don't know it yet, right, So
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Speaker 6: I think y'all it was appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, man, just you coming over to and bringing
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Speaker 1: that knowledge and just like it was more like that
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Speaker 1: little edge that we needed.
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Speaker 2: You know. I feel like we didn't have that at
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Speaker 2: a time, and when you came over, I was like,
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Speaker 2: all right, man, that's that's the guy we need right there.
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Speaker 2: He just kind of just kept he kept everybody of
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Speaker 2: their hoes, you know. And it was fun because you know,
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Speaker 2: as a young guy, you're just trying to have fun,
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Speaker 2: but you're also trying to be serious.
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Speaker 1: Especially in the Cardinals, you know, we were expected to
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Speaker 1: go to the playoffs every year. We just that was
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Speaker 1: something that it was just kind of ingrained in you
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Speaker 1: from the minor leagues, you know, like and you know,
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Speaker 1: an agent came over. It was fun to kind of
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Speaker 1: have somebody there to to break them knotony of just
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Speaker 1: you know, being so focused on playing while playing ball,
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Speaker 1: like the little things like that.
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Speaker 5: Being stuffy make you lose games, like a stuffy clubhouse
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Speaker 5: where you're like, oh man, I'm just I can't I
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Speaker 5: can't do anything, like I don't want to do anything wrong.
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Speaker 5: Is this person and then this person's not fun? Like
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Speaker 5: does that make you lose games?
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Speaker 2: For sure?
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Speaker 1: I feel like that makes you lose who you are
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Speaker 1: as a player too. I mean I was always kind
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Speaker 1: of that kid when I first got up. There's like
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to do anything wrong. I was scared
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Speaker 1: to do them anyone. And obviously I screwed up on
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Speaker 1: the biggest stage you can possibly do it. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't until I finally told myself, like, man, I
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Speaker 1: hit rock bottom doing that.
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Speaker 2: It's like it wasn't that bad.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm still here, you know, And that's what
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Speaker 1: really turned my career and allowed me to really be
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Speaker 1: I'm the player that I wanted to be. Was I
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Speaker 1: think going through all that fire and realizing like, man,
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Speaker 1: it's not that bad, you know, like, if I can
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Speaker 1: go through this and let's say this, there's nothing I
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Speaker 1: can be afraid of.
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Speaker 4: Now, agreed.
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Speaker 6: You grew up in Hawaii, Like I mentioned, what's the
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Speaker 6: journey like from because I played in Hawaii and I
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Speaker 6: was there for like three months and I was like, man,
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Speaker 6: I got the island fever. I gotta get the heck
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Speaker 6: off this island. But you grew up there, you still
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Speaker 6: you still are there. What's it like going from Hawaii
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Speaker 6: to the mainland. I mean, that's gotta be maybe the
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Speaker 6: opposite culture shock of even you know, you're you're stuck
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Speaker 6: on an island. You're out there in the middle of
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Speaker 6: the Pacific, and then all of a sudden you go
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Speaker 6: to the mainland and you're living there full time.
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Speaker 4: That's got to be a little bit of a shock.
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Speaker 2: I was crazy.
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Speaker 1: I remember when I first got drafted. I was like, man,
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Speaker 1: I got drafted with Saint Louis Carlos. I'm like, where
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Speaker 1: is that.
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Speaker 2: Phone looking. I'm like, wow, I've never been to this
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Speaker 2: last before, you know.
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Speaker 1: So I remember going to Saint Louis and you know,
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Speaker 1: obviously walking in you see that you see the stadium
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Speaker 1: and Saint Louis has that aura of like baseball, you know,
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Speaker 1: just and you walk in, you got the arches, you
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Speaker 1: got everything kind of you know there.
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Speaker 2: And then you know, so I do my whole thing.
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Speaker 2: I signed with the.
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Speaker 1: Cardinals and that, and then they're like, You're going to
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Speaker 1: Quad Cities, Iowa, And I'm like, Where's.
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Speaker 2: Iowa and Quad Cities?
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Speaker 1: You know, so you look that up and then, man,
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Speaker 1: it is cool because all the stories that I made
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Speaker 1: throughout that time, for being a kid from heal, Hawaii
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Speaker 1: to be able to be doing that and playing in
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Speaker 1: these crazy small towns, you know, it's cool because they
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Speaker 1: just made the man that I have to understand. And
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Speaker 1: then the island is not as big as we thought
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Speaker 1: it was, you know, and growing up that was kind
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Speaker 1: of everything for us.
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Speaker 2: That was our world, you know.
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Speaker 1: So it just made me realize, like, man, if I
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Speaker 1: want to make it, I gotta work, bro, because I'm
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Speaker 1: playing these guys from Dominican.
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Speaker 2: I'm playing the guys for Venezuela.
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Speaker 1: I mean, all these kids up here are just so
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Speaker 1: much more advanced than I am, you know, just because
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Speaker 1: I mean in Hawaii, like we don't really have the
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Speaker 1: means to create the kind of facilities like they have
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Speaker 1: in Arizona and California, Texas. So for me, I was like, man,
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Speaker 1: I've just seen all these kids and how I advanced
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Speaker 1: they were. It's like, okay, I gotta work. So it
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Speaker 1: was it was cool to see that.
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Speaker 5: Was that the farthest east you had been when you
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Speaker 5: landed in Saint Louis or did you guys play to Hawaii?
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Speaker 2: Go so there when you were in school? I think
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Speaker 2: we went further.
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Speaker 1: But when I was younger, we played in the Calgorm
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Speaker 1: World Series in Aberdeen, Maryland.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've gone.
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Speaker 1: I've gone past the Middle st a couple of times,
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Speaker 1: but never smack Dad right there in good old USA.
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Speaker 4: I was like Middle America. Middle America.
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Speaker 6: Actually, go to qlat City's Island's definitely Middle America.
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Speaker 1: Remember my first time going to Quad City to I'm
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Speaker 1: walking to the stadium and it's flooded.
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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that?
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Speaker 1: And they had to like build like literally like a
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Speaker 1: walking path through the water to the stadium And I'm like,
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Speaker 1: what is this.
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Speaker 4: River right there in the right fieldes right behind it?
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Speaker 2: I never I never played.
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Speaker 4: Did you try and throw a ball over the bridge.
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Speaker 4: Did they tell you that story?
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Speaker 2: They tried. I tried, but I mean I don't eve
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Speaker 2: think I touched the bridge.
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Speaker 4: You know, it's so far based.
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Speaker 6: So there's this giant bridge pictures, right, Yeah, but when
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Speaker 6: you get there, when we went there as a visitor,
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Speaker 6: that did they have to tell you don't try and
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Speaker 6: throw the ball over the bridge.
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Speaker 4: You cannot do it.
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Speaker 6: It looks like it's it's like five ft away, it's forever,
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Speaker 6: and every picture.
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Speaker 4: Is like I can do it, and someone's but they
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Speaker 4: literally tell you, do not try and throw the ball.
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Speaker 4: You can't do it. Don't even waste your time. But
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Speaker 4: of course everyone's stupid. You're eighteen years old. Well let's
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Speaker 4: try it another one. Yeah, so what do you do now?
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Speaker 4: You have a hobby? Your bored yet?
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Speaker 2: So, I mean, I honestly just gotten a snowboarding that's
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Speaker 2: been always got.
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Speaker 4: Snowboard in Hawaii. He moved back to Hawaii too, he
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Speaker 4: told me.
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Speaker 2: So we were in Arizona.
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Speaker 1: I was living in Arizona the past four years because
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Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I just started my family.
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Speaker 2: We had two boys.
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Speaker 1: We we just kind of wanted to be centralcause my
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Speaker 1: wife from Ohio and from Hawaii.
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Speaker 2: So we called an Arizona home and right when I retired, there's.
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Speaker 1: A flag staff two hours away, and I was like,
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Speaker 1: you know what, like, let's go snowboard. My wife loves skiing,
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Speaker 1: so I was like, let's go try. Took a lesson. Man,
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Speaker 1: I had to take the prize of it.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: First I tried twice before I couldn't even get down
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Speaker 2: the bunny hill.
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Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. I took a lesson, three hour lesson.
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Speaker 1: After that, I was locked. Man, I just learned all
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Speaker 1: the little details. I mean, I have skateboarded my whole life.
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Speaker 1: I've done a little bit of surfing, but once I
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Speaker 1: got like the basics, man, it's so fun.
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Speaker 2: It's so beautiful in the mountains. Just like being able
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Speaker 2: to do that.
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Speaker 1: So me and wife took I think probably four to
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Speaker 1: five trips when I retired.
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Speaker 2: We went to Utah, we went to.
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Speaker 4: Uh First in Canada, man Whistler.
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Speaker 1: Whistler did flags a couple of times, so I really
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Speaker 1: got into that. And I'm like, man, I love Hawaii,
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Speaker 1: you know, and I just I'm a little scared of sharks,
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Speaker 1: so you surfing gets a little out for me. But
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Speaker 1: you know, Japan seems pretty cool time. I'm thinking about
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Speaker 1: trying to hit Japan snowboarding this offseason.
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Speaker 6: You know what called snowboarders what trouble because you always
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Speaker 6: wreck of skiers like ski snowboards.
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Speaker 4: You guys got no got no regard for life.
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Speaker 2: It's like guys like Hay coming down the Dama Hill
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Speaker 2: going straight.
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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: You didn't try sk like did you feel too manly
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Speaker 5: to try skin or once your wife is scanned, did
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Speaker 5: that feel.
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Speaker 1: Too kind of You know? I grew up on a board.
13:55
Speaker 1: That's why I was groove longboarding and messing with that.
13:58
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, if I can loanboard,
14:00
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick to Like that's just cooler, man. It's
14:03
Speaker 1: cooler to carve and stuff. And you watch everybody on
14:05
Speaker 1: the skis, they're just going straight down. I'm like, just
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Speaker 1: it's not for me.
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Speaker 2: I like to be with a car, hit a little
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Speaker 2: jump and I learned how to do it. So I
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Speaker 2: found being pretty good.
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Speaker 5: And you should be afraid of sharks.
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Speaker 2: I've seen too much.
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Speaker 7: You should be afraid, Like it's like an alligators stop,
14:23
Speaker 7: but you should if you're afraid of sharks. You don't
14:26
Speaker 7: just like had a shark encounter. No sharks win. You're
14:31
Speaker 7: in their habitat.
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Speaker 2: They swim circles around you. Literally literally there's nothing you
14:36
Speaker 2: can do when they're when they're around you.
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Speaker 3: Last one for me, So we talked a lot of Cardinals. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: what was the biggest difference you saw once you left
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Speaker 3: the org? Like, so you did what a little Seattle,
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Speaker 3: Milwaukee and l A.
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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing that I tell everybody when
14:52
Speaker 1: they asked that question, it's like Saint Louis taught me
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Speaker 1: how to create a routine, you know, and that was
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Speaker 1: the biggest thing that for a young guys, Like we
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Speaker 1: had so many like older events that would come in
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Speaker 1: and kind of share their knowledge. We had Ozzie Smith,
15:05
Speaker 1: you know, Ozio Kendall, you had Willie McGee coming in,
15:08
Speaker 1: like all these guys. So we'd always pick their rings,
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Speaker 1: but they would always be trying to help us, you know,
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Speaker 1: and like, as a young guy, you're just trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out a routine that works. So I feel like
15:16
Speaker 1: that was a big thing for me is the Cardinals
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Speaker 1: really helped me establish our routine, learn that you know,
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Speaker 1: that is a routine that's going to help me be
15:22
Speaker 1: ready for every game.
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Speaker 2: And then when I went.
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Speaker 1: To Milwaukee, it was a little more relaxed, you know,
15:26
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, but I already knew who I was as
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Speaker 1: a player. I knew, you know, my routines, I knew
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Speaker 1: all that, So it was nice to go there and
15:32
Speaker 1: be free and just kind of do my thing and
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Speaker 1: prepare the I want to prepare.
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Speaker 2: And then Seattle was really cool. They were very analytical.
15:39
Speaker 1: They were still kind of a little shaky with how
15:41
Speaker 1: they were doing things, but you can see now they're
15:44
Speaker 1: they're starting.
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Speaker 2: To really take off. But LA by far was one
15:48
Speaker 2: of my favorite places to play.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think just top down from the front
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Speaker 1: office all the way down to managers to even the
15:55
Speaker 1: guys in the clubhouse. It was just first class all
15:58
Speaker 1: the way and I was I tried to call Doc
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Speaker 1: the next year and like doct all sign league began
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Speaker 1: to come back and play for y'all man, because I
16:04
Speaker 1: really enjoyed my time there.
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Speaker 5: You played, you played in Saint Louis and then you
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Speaker 5: went to Milwaukee. What was the biggest misconception because you played,
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's a rivalry all that stuff that when
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Speaker 5: you went over to Milwaukee, you were like, Wow, they're
16:21
Speaker 5: different than what I thought when I looked across there
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Speaker 5: all the time.
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Speaker 2: This person wasn't as annoying as I thought.
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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing was I feel like Milwaukee
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Speaker 1: and Tampa were the first ones to kind of start
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Speaker 1: the shifts. You know, you guys started putting Travis Shawl
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Speaker 1: in short right. You know, you guys would kind of
16:38
Speaker 1: do all those crazy movements. So for me, I was like,
16:40
Speaker 1: you know, Milwaukee seems like they're starting to get really
16:43
Speaker 1: into analytics, you know, like because everything they were doing,
16:45
Speaker 1: I mean, Travis at the third base r now you
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Speaker 1: guys going to the second base and you're putting him in
16:49
Speaker 1: deep right fields so he has more range.
16:51
Speaker 2: And we were all saying like what you.
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Speaker 1: Know, and Tampa was doing that, and then all of
16:55
Speaker 1: a sudden, boom, everybody started doing I was out in
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Speaker 1: deep right or short.
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Speaker 2: Right, you know. So I think that was the biggest
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Speaker 2: misconception was, you know, they.
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Speaker 1: Weren't really that analytical in Milwaukee, as you know, I think,
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Speaker 1: just having counts and I mean David Stearns, you know,
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Speaker 1: these young guys who were just trying to push the
17:13
Speaker 1: game and make it better I think.
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Speaker 2: That's what, you know, really kind of gave you guys
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Speaker 2: a little bit of an edge.
17:18
Speaker 1: When you guys at playoffs, it was like we didn't
17:20
Speaker 1: know what we were going up against, you know, we
17:21
Speaker 1: didn't know what you guys were going to bring out
17:23
Speaker 1: that day, and that was always fun. I think obviously,
17:26
Speaker 1: we Saint Louis were old school, you know, hard in
17:29
Speaker 1: those baseball and then you got pirates coming in. They
17:31
Speaker 1: were kind of the same way, and then you guys
17:34
Speaker 1: were just like in the wild Card and the Cups,
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Speaker 1: you know, so it was like, okay, you know, it's
17:38
Speaker 1: a little different. But when I got there, man.
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Speaker 2: It was awesome. I loved my time in Milwaukee. That
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Speaker 2: was two of my favorite years playing this relaxed.
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Speaker 1: We had a good group of guys, you know, went to.
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Speaker 2: The playoffs every year, so you can can't play. They
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Speaker 2: do that, they do I mean, they don't miss much. Colt.
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Speaker 3: I'm good to see you, man, grats again on retirement.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, good luck later we're all entering