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Before Any Live Event We Need A Tommy D From Juice Entertainment · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 2: Good morning, are you doing.
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  Speaker 1: Doing very well? Tommy? How are you today?
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  Speaker 3: Sir?
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  Speaker 2: Doing great? Doing great?
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  Speaker 4: To meet you.
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  Speaker 1: What an amazing thing that you have done throughout this
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  Speaker 1: process and then to bring it all together. You you
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  Speaker 1: are the lost art of a formation of gatherings that
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  Speaker 1: that so many different bands are starving for you today
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  Speaker 1: because they need that leadership that you forged. You were
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  Speaker 1: the one that took that step in the beginning.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been in a long splaight opsbsolutely, I did
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  Speaker 4: take that stuff. O.
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  Speaker 2: We're about sixteen years ago now.
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  Speaker 1: To get the confidence to do that, because you know
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  Speaker 1: what it's like to be in those night clubs, I
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  Speaker 1: mean those owners, I mean they change every five minutes
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  Speaker 1: or they've got a better idea, and it's like you've
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  Speaker 1: got to make sure that you you know that the
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  Speaker 1: entertainment gets on that stage and you've got to work
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  Speaker 1: your way through it. How are you able to build
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  Speaker 1: up that confidence and make sure that you stayed true
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  Speaker 1: to your process.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great question because it was always definitely
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  Speaker 4: get challenging with some of the club owners where they
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't want some of the creativity that you had to
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  Speaker 4: stay true to it. Really, I just have to tell them, Look,
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  Speaker 4: this is part how we're going to put the event.
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  Speaker 4: This is a talent I'm going to put on there.
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  Speaker 2: This is this theme we're going to do. If you
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  Speaker 2: don't want it, I'm going to move it to another
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  Speaker 2: venue and pack out. There's got good enough. We're lucky
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  Speaker 2: enough most of them. Let me keep my creativity.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you said that, because I know
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  Speaker 1: when I was with ninety five DOUBLEQ, one of the
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  Speaker 1: things that we did with the clubs is we put
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  Speaker 1: a gigantic spaceship in the center of the club. And
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  Speaker 1: he looked at us, going, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: I said, because that's exactly what we want. And and
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  Speaker 1: and you know it's like, okay, well, well, if you
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  Speaker 1: don't want us here in your building which really doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get business. And it's one of those timmy where you
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  Speaker 1: sit there and you go, I've been watching you. I
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  Speaker 1: see how many cars that don't come here anymore. We
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  Speaker 1: want to make sure that we fill up your parking lot.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever have to do a speech like that?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, absolutely. At a club I was doing a
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  Speaker 4: beach party I was doing in their place was empty,
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  Speaker 4: and I was filling the whole entire club up with
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  Speaker 4: the sand, the whole entire place said, I was covering
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  Speaker 4: the whole clean up, making this crazy beach team party.
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  Speaker 2: And the owner had said to.
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  Speaker 4: Me, He's like, yeah, I can't put that in my club.
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  Speaker 2: I was like exactly. I was like, your club's dead.
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  Speaker 2: I pack out all the clubs. Will me and my
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  Speaker 2: team do So if you want it, we're gonna We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna do it. Well, we'll pay for all the cleanup.
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  Speaker 2: We have everything you know in place, and if not,
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  Speaker 2: we leave, we walk and we'll bring it somewhere else
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  Speaker 2: and let us do it. And it was a super
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  Speaker 2: successful party.
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  Speaker 3: And see, because the average person doesn't understand what goes
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  Speaker 3: into the presentation of a performance, because they don't understand
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  Speaker 3: the weeks or the months that it takes even just
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  Speaker 3: to prep for it, and the endless meetings.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, those meetings.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, most people don't realize. They look at the industry,
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  Speaker 4: they'll look at a promoter, they'll look at the artists
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  Speaker 4: and they just see them, you know, they'll see me
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  Speaker 4: sitting there hanging out with Snoop Dogg or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, Oh, it's so easy. I want your job.
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  Speaker 2: I want this as a career. Not easy, and it's.
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  Speaker 4: Not on you put a ton of countless and endless
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  Speaker 4: time of preparation, like you said, that's put in there.
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  Speaker 2: Just every writing to be right, sound, marketing. It's just
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  Speaker 2: it's it's so much.
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  Speaker 4: That goes behind the scenes, and those meetings, like you said,
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  Speaker 4: they're NonStop around the clock.
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  Speaker 2: So it's it's definitely if people don't realize there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of work that goes behind the scene. They just
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  Speaker 2: see that stage pop up and see the show and
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  Speaker 2: stay awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Are ad, but ton of work that that's gone behind
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  Speaker 4: the scenes a lot.
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  Speaker 2: You're right on the money there.
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  Speaker 1: You brought up Snoop Dogg name, and I chuckled because
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  Speaker 1: we did an event two and a half hours late
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, and you know, I know what was
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  Speaker 1: going through our minds because you had people out there
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  Speaker 1: that you know, didn't have the two and a half
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  Speaker 1: hours to wait. How did you deal with those situations
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  Speaker 1: where other people's time was more important than your time?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. Definitely would be some bit of
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  Speaker 2: somewhat of a challenge. Luckily enough, over time.
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  Speaker 4: I built my reputation up pretty good enough through the
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  Speaker 4: industry that most all the artists were.
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  Speaker 2: Actually beyond time.
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  Speaker 4: But I did have a couple of times where there's
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  Speaker 4: crazy situations you couldn't control, and it was really hard
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  Speaker 4: to keep the fans, make sure that DJ is playing
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  Speaker 4: some really good music, give some drink specials out.
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  Speaker 2: When you're waiting for that artist to get there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's one of those.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely you're holding your breath when you got thousands of
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  Speaker 4: people inside and thousands of people out online and you're like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, this person doesn't show up, this gonna be
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  Speaker 4: a problem.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely stressful.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, because I've been with those club owners
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  Speaker 1: that have got fire in their eyes and they're saying,
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  Speaker 1: I need more people at the bar, I need more
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  Speaker 1: people at the bar. What are you gonna do. What
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  Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Change it up?
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  Speaker 4: Now?
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  Speaker 1: I need sales, dude. And it was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: keep your stuff together. We got this, we got this.
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  Speaker 1: Just have trust.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, so I figure that when I when I
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  Speaker 4: first started in industry, I got all that same.
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  Speaker 2: Pressure and I got kicked out of some venues. I
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  Speaker 2: was running literally because of that. But after I grew
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  Speaker 2: I got fortunate enough.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I wouldn't bounce that pressure because I was like, look,
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  Speaker 4: I know how to pack these parties, and me and
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  Speaker 4: my team know we're doing and we'll get people to
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  Speaker 4: your bar, but we're not going to go tell.
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  Speaker 2: The DJ to change the music. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: We make it last.
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  Speaker 4: We run long, successful parties for long times and uh,
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  Speaker 4: but definitely starting off that was a pain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's something I wouldn't think about them that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, listen to the club owner to day either.
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  Speaker 4: It's like I was like, you got your club, my
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  Speaker 4: job's to pack it. See you think it's the back
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  Speaker 4: of relax. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I got to ask you the question though about the
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  Speaker 1: MySpace Live because that proves to me how much of
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  Speaker 1: a pioneer you really are even today, because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you were doing something on MySpace that nobody else was
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  Speaker 1: doing and you worked it, you knew how to do it,
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  Speaker 1: and you stayed true to it. Where where did that
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  Speaker 1: vision come from? And was it something that hits you
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, were you driving in
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  Speaker 1: the car? What made you say take the step now
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  Speaker 1: before somebody else beats me to it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was kind of random because I had done a
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  Speaker 4: lot of events from I did a couple events out
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  Speaker 4: on the West Coast a long time ago, and stuff
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  Speaker 4: out in Cancun, and I ran into some people that
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  Speaker 4: were kind of in the startups and my Space and
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  Speaker 4: then I did some events out there.
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  Speaker 2: With Steve O MTV Jackass.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I did some Stevo events, got in
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  Speaker 4: these guys camps, we started working together and then did
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  Speaker 4: a lot of successful events with some of those guys
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  Speaker 4: and they were like, look, we want you to run
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  Speaker 4: on my Space events exclusively.
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  Speaker 2: Here and it kind of got offered to me. So
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  Speaker 2: it was really cool.
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  Speaker 4: We got to do those events throughout, you know, throughout
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  Speaker 4: the country.
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  Speaker 2: Throughout you know, proably through the East Coast exclusively.
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  Speaker 4: All the talent would come into really like at no cost,
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  Speaker 4: because they wanted to be on my space and my job.
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  Speaker 4: They trusted me with it and maybe just kept it
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  Speaker 4: going and it helped my space blow up and helped
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  Speaker 4: me a lot in return too, So it was great.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Tommy D coming
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  Speaker 1: up next. Absolutely one of the greatest pioneers of live
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  Speaker 1: entertainment and events. We are back with Tommy D. To
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  Speaker 1: create your own business, to be the CEO of Juice Entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: That in itself is a step forward that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people don't do, but you did, and you changed
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people's lives because I always think of
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  Speaker 1: what happens is that when you bring in your event,
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  Speaker 1: guess who's driving a beautiful car? The owner? Guess who's
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean. I mean, so otherwords,
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  Speaker 1: you help make a lot of money for other people.
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  Speaker 1: How do you handle that in your heart knowing, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, they're making the money. I'm the one that's
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  Speaker 1: busting tail here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I was always cool with that, you know, as long
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  Speaker 4: as everybody makes their money.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, some of the clubs, some of the clubs obviously.
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  Speaker 4: Started off making them a lot of money, you know,
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  Speaker 4: But you know, as long as me and my team
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  Speaker 4: were able to eat fairly, the club owners made more
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  Speaker 4: when they put the money into it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's fine with me, you know, something that
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  Speaker 2: didn't really bother me.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see this as a David and Goliath story?
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  Speaker 1: Because the more and more I read about you and
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  Speaker 1: have experienced you over the years, it's like, my god,
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  Speaker 1: this guy has taken on the world and he has
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  Speaker 1: said we can all do this, but it's going to
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  Speaker 1: require some focus and some loyalty as well as a
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  Speaker 1: real solid team to make this thing happen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, people, people, people use that word David versus Goliad.
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  Speaker 2: I've been uh. I got in the industry at a
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  Speaker 2: super young age sixteen.
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  Speaker 4: I think I saw my first beach party at like
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  Speaker 4: thirteen years old on the beach in a while with
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  Speaker 4: New Jersey. So I think I've been playing the uphill
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  Speaker 4: battle most of my life. So but yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 4: it's a big fight versus the largest company in the
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  Speaker 4: you know, in the entertainment industry.
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  Speaker 2: That's for sure, thirty six billion dollars. But it's really
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  Speaker 2: about the fans.
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  Speaker 4: I'm one person the fans of the army, So you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's that's what it'll take to geb real change.
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  Speaker 1: So then when you travel around the country, each region
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  Speaker 1: has their own idea and plans. How do you deal
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  Speaker 1: with with those regional areas because being up there in
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  Speaker 1: Jersey versus Carolina, versus Seattle, Washington, everybody has their own vision.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think one huge part is you. You are,
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  Speaker 2: like you know myself and other promoters, You're the visionary. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you you create it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, people tell me you do an event uh
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  Speaker 4: down in Miami and it's something I did up in
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  Speaker 4: New Jersey and New York and it's not gonna work.
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  Speaker 2: I said, well, I think it's gonna work. We just
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  Speaker 2: have to put the time, put the effort, put a
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  Speaker 2: theming behind it.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, obviously you have to drift a little
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  Speaker 4: bit to like different sets of music in different areas,
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  Speaker 4: that's for sure. If you have your vision and you
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  Speaker 4: you put it all into it and make it really creative.
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  Speaker 2: I think I've been able.
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  Speaker 4: To copy and paste stuff pretty much almost every single market.
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  Speaker 1: You bring up Miami, and right away, I'm starting to
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  Speaker 1: think of South Beach and I've always wanted to have
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  Speaker 1: that big festival out there by Versace's old House and
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  Speaker 1: just a just a big event outside, because that's the
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  Speaker 1: one thing about South Beach is that you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to go into the clubs, hang out outside and just
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  Speaker 1: attend everybody's party.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I d Miami used to be a great time
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  Speaker 4: Winter Music conference every year, the events down there.
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  Speaker 2: I did an event actually at back in the day.
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  Speaker 4: It was Madonna's old club Liquid Place was dead, and
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  Speaker 4: it kind of shows you of a theme and I
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  Speaker 4: ran back in the day when you can get away
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  Speaker 4: with two more crazy parties, I at a theme party
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  Speaker 4: called literally Keep It Simple Sex Party. Yeah, made a
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  Speaker 4: crazy theme that I've had like five people in it.
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  Speaker 4: We put that theme party down in Miami. We had
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know how many people fitting it, but
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  Speaker 4: we had five thousand people on one that didn't get in.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why, if you got your vision, I think
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  Speaker 4: you can work in every market.
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  Speaker 1: Tommy, How did you deal with situations though? When real
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  Speaker 1: life events mess up your party? And then, and only
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  Speaker 1: because I remember doing this, we had this big, big
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  Speaker 1: event here in Carolina and all of a sudden, a
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  Speaker 1: White Bronco appears on TV and everybody who was there
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  Speaker 1: for that celebration we had to watch what OJ was doing,
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  Speaker 1: and the whole party didn't matter how much money we
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  Speaker 1: invested in it. It was done. There was no way
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  Speaker 1: we could save that party. You had to have gone
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  Speaker 1: through situations like that as well.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely so being out of New York and New Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you one thing, the New York Yankees, they
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  Speaker 4: crossed so much business whenever they I became such I
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  Speaker 4: became a Red Sox dad just because of.
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  Speaker 2: The area.
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  Speaker 4: People were like hey, because that was something I could
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  Speaker 4: not overcome. When they did into the playoffs, I would
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  Speaker 4: put people on to go to bars and run clubs.
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  Speaker 2: So I had like the law. I put a screen.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was probably the largest screen at the time.
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  Speaker 2: I think anybody ever tried to put in.
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  Speaker 4: A nightclub advertise that everything it's still weighted.
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  Speaker 2: So that game was over, the place was dead.
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  Speaker 4: So I would try to really look around and follow
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  Speaker 4: the schedules, and when it was in the playoff season,
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  Speaker 4: I'd be like, really keeping my talent budgets down, not
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  Speaker 4: spending too much money because it wouldn't matter if the
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  Speaker 4: Yankees were in a deep in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: People weren't coming to the events would be lower. And
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  Speaker 2: then in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: We got the World Cup going on right now. Back
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  Speaker 4: in the day in New Jersey. Everybody's Italian if you're not.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 4: It was the World Cup and it was Italian. I
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  Speaker 4: think it was friends and I had a party at
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  Speaker 4: the Silp Club, a beach club, indoor, an outdoor, huge event.
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  Speaker 4: We were looking at doing about like ten fifteen thous people.
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  Speaker 4: I never in America, people at this time didn't like soccer,
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  Speaker 4: so I never expected soccer to affect that event. That
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  Speaker 4: one I.
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  Speaker 2: Walked pretty bad.
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  Speaker 4: We had that when it's like super extra innings of
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  Speaker 4: or whatever it's called in soccer, and we we ended
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  Speaker 4: up doing I think like maybe six hundred people.
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  Speaker 2: It was after the game because it was sill late.
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  Speaker 4: But that one, yeah, so most sports it was the Yankees,
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  Speaker 4: but you really have to keep an eye on I,
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  Speaker 4: like you said, OJ Simpson something like that, but he
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  Speaker 4: mostly Yankees one time World Cup. But I would always
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  Speaker 4: keep an eye on it and look at all sports.
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  Speaker 4: So I was, you know, really purcous, I'm looking at things.
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  Speaker 2: Like that that would be an effect in the market share.
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  Speaker 1: Here's something that the listeners will never understand. But because
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  Speaker 1: we have lived the lifestyle for as long as we
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  Speaker 1: have the moment the lights come on at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the night. I don't know why I love that moment,
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  Speaker 1: but it's almost like the big surprise, the oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: we really tore up this joint kind of a feeling.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely, definitely a good time, and it's
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  Speaker 4: also and it's also like an old ship moment. It
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  Speaker 4: is because when you have everything in control and all
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  Speaker 4: those lights come on and you've got thousands of thousands
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  Speaker 4: of people, you got to really watch the crowd control
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  Speaker 4: because then people have fists because they're having a great
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  Speaker 4: time and they don't want to leave.
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  Speaker 1: That is so true. That is so true.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a it's awesome, but it's also a little
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  Speaker 4: always in nerve racking moment of like we got to
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  Speaker 4: be on point now.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you see that? With today's industry, with all the
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  Speaker 1: DJs that are, you know, creating their own paths as
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  Speaker 1: well as the bands that are doing their own thing
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  Speaker 1: on the road, do you find yourself being called to
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  Speaker 1: that stage again and those performances because it seems like
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  Speaker 1: it's all grown back into we've got the artist, we've
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  Speaker 1: got the promoter, let's make the event.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know that. I don't the industry. To me,
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  Speaker 2: everything recycles itself. People always look at it say like,
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  Speaker 2: this won't change. This is the process is all. This
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  Speaker 2: won't happen again.
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  Speaker 4: It can reach it rechanges, you know, history repeats itself.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: You know, people say this, this seems dead.
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  Speaker 2: Someone can recreate it, you know. So that's that's how
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  Speaker 2: I really see it.
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  Speaker 4: There.
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  Speaker 1: God, what leadership you've got. Where can people go to
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  Speaker 1: find out more about what you're doing? And are you
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  Speaker 1: on a speaking engagement to talk to these club owners
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  Speaker 1: that just want to bring life back to the towns
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  Speaker 1: that they're in.
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  Speaker 4: I'm more than happy to speak to any club owner
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  Speaker 2: That's where you can find me reach out.
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  Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show anytime in
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: the future. You've got so many stories tucked inside those caverns,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: inside your heart and it's like it's like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to hear everything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, it would be a pleasure. There's definitely a
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  Speaker 4: lot of stories, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. Will you be brilliant today? Okay, mister
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  Speaker 4: All Right, Yeah, thanks, thanks a lot for having me
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  Speaker 4: on and thanks for anybody listening.