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Shop Beers Live: 8/11: KSP, Cotton Bowl, Delaware Double File Restarts and Harmon's Sprint to Glory · Pushin' the Cushion

• Slim Pushins: What's up everybody? Welcome to a delayed live pushing the cushion shop beers. We got a big show tonight. Got a lot to cover. A lot of public interest tonight. As always, my co-host and absolute washed up has been, Corby Scherb Corby Scherb: Think it's close. Closer to it never was. Closer to it never was, for sure. Slim Pushins: And the guy behind the the dials. Jim Gardner: Yeah, late to staging, sorry. Docked me two rows. Corby Scherb: At least you didn't get left there. Chad Jenkins Kerbo. Slim Pushins: It's not Jenkins. Corby Scherb: sorry. Slim Pushins: You know Jimmy somebody asked Jimmy one time, they were looking for my Facebook page and asked Jim what my first name was and he had to Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: go search because nobody ever calls me my first name. He didn't know it. Corby Scherb: It was probably one of us. Jim Gardner: Somebody calls him Chad if somebody calls him Chad in front of me, I'm like, stop. That's not his name. Slim Pushins: Somebody's in trouble. Corby Scherb: Mm. Jim Gardner: Don't tell you that he's not no. All right, sorry we're late. That was my fault. Slim Pushins: Somebody's in trouble. Jim Gardner: Technical issues. Trying to get it live. Slim Pushins: We went for the record we went live on time. One hundred percent on time. Even Corby was on time. It was just just talking to ourselves. Jim Gardner: We just just us three just us three talking for three minutes. Slim Pushins: I had to start it all over. Jordan Roop's already Jim Gardner: man. Yeah. Slim Pushins: done lying. My favorite people. Lies. Jim Gardner: Yep. All right. Slim Pushins: I gotta bring up I gotta bring up the chat. big weekend this weekend. Corby Scherb: Let's just I I wanna start here and I wanna be the one to say it, you know. I didn't know that this dude was a wing car guy, but apparently Nathan Moore knows how to drive a wing car as well. Went down south, went head hunting, and put it on them boys. Good job, Nathan. Jim Gardner: ha put put put the wing in the trunk and just just warm out hammering the bottom. So Corby Scherb: I don't know. He usually gives me a hug. I don't think he'll give me a hug anymore. Now he's big time. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I did I did pull up a victory lane photo of Nathan. I know we promised everybody we'd start with KSP, but but then we'd all check the results and saw saw Nathan Moore with the wing on. Prop Corby Scherb: I couldn't help it. Yeah. What's up, dude? Jim Gardner: probably hit his head on the wing getting out of the car. Slim Pushins: I don't know how he got into it. Jim Gardner: In victory Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: lane. Good win, man. We like giving you a hard time, but that's Corby Scherb: Yeah, congrats. Jim Gardner: that's awesome. down there with the down south boys. So Slim Pushins: hey, can we just f can we step away from racing for a second and give some props to the cotton bowl gals down there in the picture? Can you bring can you bring that up one more time? Jim Gardner: Kurt. Corby Scherb: for sure. SUS man, SUS always has it going on. Slim Pushins: Like look there it is. Look why Jim Gardner: Yeah, some cotton gals. Slim Pushins: I don't why does he just won a race and he doesn't look happy at all? Like he looks like he just got Corby Scherb: He looks the exact same. Slim Pushins: he looks like he just crawled out from underneath like a seventy eight Buick that was replacing like a starter on. Jim Gardner: man. Slim Pushins: How about a little excitement, Nate? Jim Gardner: Yeah. He's probably as shocked as the rest of us. Slim Pushins: I was just on I was just on the podcast. Yeah, yeah, he was I was just on the podcast Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: page. Nate's officially a a follower now. I don't know what we did to deserve that. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I couldn't tag him earlier in all the messages. So anyway. Slim Pushins: You did? Jim Gardner: no, I couldn't because he's not following the page. So but yeah. So anyway. Good win, Nate. It was nice to see. I got one more little tidbit. you know, let's just go ahead and fire off results from from Cotton Bowl. Nathan Moore with a big win. Kaden Trotter led most of it and ends up run second. And Kent Lewis Jr., Rod Craddock, and Ricky Holden were the top five there. And I have one piece of media from that race that I want to take note of just for conversation later. And that would be this photo of a restart with fifteen to go. And it looks like everybody's single file, and they probably didn't all crash into each other. So good for them. Glad to see they could all load them up in the trailer in one piece. So Slim Pushins: Well, all right. You just teed it up. Let's get into Kennedale. That's why everybody's that's why everybody's here. I wanna apologize for Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. Corby Scherb: We're g we're we're probably we're gonna piss some people off tonight and we're probably gonna make some friends and yeah, I'm sure there's a Slim Pushins: anything that Corby says this evening. His opinions do not reflect that that of the show. They do not. Corby Scherb: I I'm sure there's there's a lot of people that are waiting. Yeah, well, remember how we started the show, you know. I I never was, has been, whatever, you Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: know, I I'm one of those guys that doesn't race anymore, but We can blame it on drivers, we can blame it on the racetrack, we can blame it on whatever you guys want. It is so tough to do a Delaware double file because you are anticipating, you are predicting, and you are just trying to give it a good guess. And with Kennedale and the restart roll on the back straightaway, every person who starts a race does ne never ever waits till the last tire. Never. You don't do it. You start on the back straightaway and so then it's a free for all back there. And I will I'm just gonna say it and I'm sorry if for whoever I piss off respect is gone around here. I y dn you know, it's Slim Pushins: Well, I don't know that it's necessarily specifically around here. I don't disagree with your comment at all, but I don't think it's a D F W thing. Jim Gardner: Yeah. watched w Corby Scherb: Yeah, I I agree. Well, you know yeah, for sure, you know. Yeah Jim Gardner: watch r Larson run over Timms last night and think it's probably not a respect there either. So I keep going, Corby. Corby Scherb: It it it's a give and take. I I'll always agree with this and I mean we man, I'm just gonna call black black here. You know what, man, Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Marcus Thomas is an absolute wheel man and he ripped Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Corby Scherb: with no nose wing for a long time and him and John were fighting over the exact same piece of real estate because it was a double file restart and Marcus knew that the race was gonna get started early, so Marcus isn't gonna give John the opportunity and sadly Marcus lost that fight and it took out Carson Bolton. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it was Corby Scherb: Okay. Jim Gardner: that was the s second it's all blurred into one big beating, but that was the second incident, Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: correct? Okay. The first one was with Jeb and Charlie and we'll get to that. Corby Scherb: Mm. Jim Gardner: I so w l let let's let's first preface this by saying look we did not start the podcast to sit on here and bash racetracks and poo-poo drivers. That's not that's not a or air dirty, air our grievances or anything like that. Like we just want to talk about what happened, explain our particular situations, and explain some things with context and air them out. I see a lot of different sides. I understand a lot of different sides, but like, you know, whose fault it was and this guy's non-driving POS and that guy, like, that's not what we're trying to do here. Like, this is all supposed to be kind of fun. there's a lot of circumstances that went into what went down Saturday night. you know, it ain't the tracks fault a hundred percent, it ain't the restarts a hundred percent, you know. I'll say right away the drivers steer the cars and stomp on the pedals. It ultimately the buck stops with us as drivers. the aggression is turned up to a hundred, especially on restarts, especially when the tracks kind of, you know, it's super slick, and then there's grip, and it's not much in between. you either get one or the other. It's not a track specific issue. you know, it Slim Pushins: We're gonna get to that in a second too. Jim Gardner: wasn't it's not a Kennedale problem. The the racetrack was great. was fine Saturday night. Some it's slick. It's got a curb. It's a little rough some nights. It's got a big cushion some nights. Like if you want to race on the same surface every Saturday night, build a pavement car and haul your ass down to Houston. Right. On a dirt track, it's going to change and and be a little Slim Pushins: There are variables. Jim Gardner: bit different. Right. There's variables. We know that going in. We have different shocks. We have different springs, different tires to be able to run in the heavy and run in the slick and everything in between. So it's not a track Specific issue. It ultimately is a driver issue. I think that circumstances put the drivers in a tough position. And that's probably what I don't like. Right. and so I yeah, double file restarts Slim Pushins: You're talking about the circumstances. The the double foul restart. That's what you're talking about. Jim Gardner: on a particular racetrack in a particular scenario with a particular number of laps to go, makes everything change. All right. I was a beneficiary on Saturday night. Because I didn't pass a car all night, I was so terrible, except for if I got to restart on the top. And even then it was because cars crashed in front of me. It's like it's not like I went anywhere. So yeah, Slim Pushins: He just gave it right back to him. Jim Gardner: exactly. It I mean, give them three laps and it'll be gone. So, you know, I want to make sure we start that reset. Like we ain't gonna sit here and and talk badly about Charlie, Jeb, John, Marcus. Slim Pushins: Marcus. Jim Gardner: And whoever else you want to talk bad about me and say I'm a non-driving sound, but go f go for it, you know. But you know, like I I don't want to sit here and like poo-poo on guys, because that's not beneficial to to what's going on. We can talk kind of what you know, we can talk in general about what we'd like to see that's better or worse or or or anything. But at the end of Slim Pushins: So Jim Gardner: the day, it's it's about the drivers and giving each other probably a little bit more room, but it's also hard to tell seventeen or eighteen guys, hey, everybody give each other more room 'cause inevitably one guy's not gonna listen and then take everything that everybody else is giving and that's kinda where I have a position of of not liking the double file restarts either. So anyway. Slim Pushins: So for for the record, I Kinnerdale made a comment on somebody's post that this is what we voted on. I don't remember voting and and I that very likely could have happened. I'm not calling that out. But the comment led me to believe that the track is open to to change if we can get, you know, some sort of a collective together. that they're open to the idea. RPM, Kevin made a comment Jim Gardner: Dialogue, yeah. It's it's evolved. Slim Pushins: that RPM, he it's not a choose cone by definition, but he made multiple comments that they use a choose scenario. And you guys can correct me. Y'all I'm assuming y'all read the same thing. He acted like if everybody chooses the same line then it's a single file restart. It's completely up to the drivers. So I'm assuming if the first ten cars choose the outside line then The eleventh place car, if he wants to start on the front row on the inside, he can do so. Is is that the way that I understand his comments? Jim Gardner: In theory, yeah. if that you know, if that's how we're lining them up there, I I thought that the choice was for a second to decide whether the high or low, and that that dictated Slim Pushins: That's what I thought. Jim Gardner: the rest of the lines. And it's also different. We don't have a unified series anymore, so it's also different everywhere we go. We're gonna go to Ardmore this weekend, probably, and or if we go to RPM, they're gonna run it differently than what Kennedale did. does last week because it's not uniform and that's that's just the way it is. It's it's not a big deal. just kind of speaking more in general. Slim Pushins: So when he made that when he when he made that comment, I thought the exact same thing. I everybody knows I've never driven a race car, but when he made the comment about, hey, Corby Scherb: Thankfully. Slim Pushins: we allow people to to choose, I thought my first thought was exactly that. And then I think Carson Bolden asked him to kind of redefine cla yeah, Jim Gardner: Clarify. Yeah. Slim Pushins: what what it was that he said and and that's what he said. If everybody chooses the same line, then it is what it is. But I'm with you. I there are many races that for years I I would have a receiver in. I don't have it in much anymore, not for any real reason. and if I heard that, I would think exactly what you just said, Jim. that y you when you ask second to choose, you assume third's gonna choose the opposite, and then so on and so forth. Jim Gardner: Yeah, yeah. So it's it's not explicit. And John Ricketts just made a good post and I want to read it here. there's a few options. One, we start bit stop bitching and get over it. I agree. Two, we do away with the double file restarts altogether in single file all the time. That I really agree with. Three, choose cone, which I have mixed a mixed bags about. Corby Scherb: You're not gonna put up Jason's comment now? Jim Gardner: We don't want to talk about flat tracks again. You what did I call you guys last week? You Neanderthals with a death wish. Anyway I agree, John. here's the thing I don't like about the double file restarts. One is anytime there's like contingencies, like we're gonna do double file restarts unless we're inside five to go, or unless we haven't got a lap in since the last one, or unless we've already done two, or unless the tracks one lane. I think if you have four contingencies that say we're gonna do it this way, except for these four reasons, that maybe it's just a bad policy. Like, and I don't want to leave that to a an official's discretion. It you know, because it's impossible to be consistent with it. Because the officials, somebody's gonna be mad. Corby Scherb: You're always going to make someone mad, no matter what. Jim Gardner: The guy, the guy who restarted third with with 11 to go at Kennedale was probably pissed we went to single file. Or set you know what I Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: mean? Because they didn't get to restart. Somebody's gonna be mad. And so Slim Pushins: Well Jim Gardner: if we have all these contingencies for our restart procedures, then s it's not gonna be consistent. And that's all we can really ask these officials to be is consistent. And we're not putting them in a good position when they have to take account of all these variables. So we either do it one if Slim Pushins: I agree. I don't want I don't Corby Scherb: I I Slim Pushins: like the judgment call. Corby Scherb: I will say this because when it is a top dominant track or a bottom dominant track, I have been in double file restarts, especially at Kinnadale, when it is on the wall and you are doing everything in your power to push that guy up. You're you want him to have to let off because he is too high and he cannot turn down. Or you can Jim Gardner: Correct. Corby Scherb: push this guy all the way up, you turn down the hill and he's stuck up there. It's still the same Jim Gardner: Correct, yeah. Corby Scherb: concept of That will fall into, you know, the Charlie Harman thing is if you turn down the hill, all I gotta do is beat you to the wall, then that is a you problem, not a me problem anymore. And it's it's so Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: hard to decipher what Jim Gardner: There's just Corby Scherb: you're saying of when is correct to say no more double file. Jim Gardner: Correct. And and and and it who's the race director? Is the is the official in the infield? Is he up in the press box? And it's different track to track week to week. And like I said, I just don't like that there's five different criteria for making the decision. I think that a procedure should be good enough with two to go to make it the same as five to go, ten to go, eighteen to go. I don't you know, I I don't understand why we're changing it all the time. If if you think Slim Pushins: So Patrick Stassa Corby Scherb: And and I I I'm gonna say this right now and Harman, buddy, I'm a huge fan of you. I am not gonna knock you in any way. You gave Jeb that line. You started four and the fluff, Bubba. Okay? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: You you ha you cannot give someone like Jeb or Marcus or John or Chad Wilson or Carson Bolden or Ryder LePlant or Logan or any of those guys that option to restart there. Because if you watch back the video, Colby Stubblefield was given the same line and Colby Stubblefield ran the exact same line as Jeb did. So it's it's Slim Pushins: We've got that video. Corby Scherb: it's such it's so hard to know 'cause you were four and the fluff and you were gonna get a good drive, but Jeb still beats you to that point. It's it's man, I I d like Jimmy said, I'm not trying to bash anyone, I'm not trying to harp on anyone, Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: but like Keith Martin, Jim Gardner: I think Corby Scherb: Raven Culp, all said on Robert Byron's post, you you still gotta call a spade a spade. And it's so hard to give the same. You can't give Keith Martin or Raven Culp. They're they're absolute rippers. They could get into a car tomorrow and go out there and win. You know? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Hold on. Jordan Jordan's group just made a comment. We don't really have any on the initial start. Jim, can we show that the Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: video from Knoxville with the push and the cushion? Jim Gardner: yeah. Corby Scherb: Yeah, 'cause people are talking about high limits and world of outlaws don't have these problems. Let's see the C Jim Gardner: Yeah, they do. Corby Scherb: Mane from Knoxville. Jim Gardner: Yeah, so here's Slim Pushins: Pushing the cushion zone, Christopher Townsend got absolutely demolished on the start. He's on the outside red card. Didn't even make it to the start finish line. They had been green about Jim Gardner: Yeah, we'll show it again. Slim Pushins: a tenth of a second. We haven't had that issue here, Jordan. You're not wrong. the there's nothing you're gonna change about that. That's Jim Gardner: Yeah, it Slim Pushins: And I don't know, did he let that did he he was way out there. Did he come back in? Jim Gardner: I ca and then it looks like maybe the car on the bottom hits the berm and shoots right or something. Slim Pushins: Slam and Sammy's in there somewhere. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it it was ugly. Anyway, that's that's kind of beside the point. But the the point is is it happens more often than it should. And I think the initial start, everybody's kind of on their P's and Q's and it knows it's kind of a mess, right? the track's usually not as one lane dominant if it's slick or if it's taken rubber or something. It hasn't done it yet, and it's a little bit more even with both lanes. And I think everybody's just started the race. I think what happens is. on these restarts is a we kinda understand our cars. We know if our car is really good or if it sucks. We know where the track has got moisture or where it doesn't. And we're trying to get everything we can because you know on in the case of Saturday, the race is halfway over and everybody's trying to get what they can. There's reason that people spend their hard earned money to go sit in the stands at Kennedale is to watch sprint cars flip over and crash into each other. Like it's it's entertainment and drama. Yeah. And yeah. Slim Pushins: Yeah, at at the end of the day, we are entertainers. We are entertainers. Now, individually we are not. There there are race teams involved. There's big money that it cost to put these cars together. You're a race car driver. You're there to race. As a whole, we're there for entertainment. And that's what it's Jim Gardner: Yeah, right. And and and Slim Pushins: the same reason people people in the South go to hockey games. It's not to watch hockey. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it's it's you know, sprint cars Corby Scherb: There might be some big hockey fans down here, bro. Jim Gardner: sprint cars Slim Pushins: Few and far between. Jim Gardner: racing, there are people there to that are there to watch crashes and the double file restarts are for the fans to encourage more chaos and action. And I don't think that's necessarily I think all the cons outweigh any of those pros. And I think it should be a conversation that we have over the end of the season, into the off season, to tell these racetracks, hey, we just want to race single file. Or or do something else or beast and kiss it. So yeah. Slim Pushins: Do you wanna show that we have we have the slow mo, Charlie. Jim Gardner: So Corby Scherb: No, he's th he's talking about if you watch from the race on replay, whenever they went to turn three, Charlie was four in the fluff. And Jim Gardner: Yeah, so I actually pulled this from Charlie's Facebook page because he had it slowed down. Thank you, Charlie. So and and look, could could Jeb Slim Pushins: think anybody's questioning that Jeb came up. Jim Gardner: yeah, could could Jeb have given Charlie more room? Probably. Absolutely. Would Corby Scherb: For sure. For sure. Jim Gardner: hit would it have negatively cost Jeb a chance to win the race? Absolutely. Could Corby Scherb: For sure, for sure. Jim Gardner: Charlie also have lifted and gotten out of there and gotten a bad restart? Probably. And that would have negatively impact his ability to win the race too. These two guys going for the best spot on the racetrack to try to get traction to get a restart. And I don't Corby Scherb: Uh-huh. Jim Gardner: think, you know Slim Pushins: So watch watch Stubblefield Stubblefield runs the exact same line. There's a couple of points I wanna w I wanna I wanna show here. Stubblefield Corby Scherb: Because it Slim Pushins: Stubblefield and Stubblefield might have gotten into the car next to him. I don't know who was next to him. Weston Gorham. Jim Gardner: Maybe. I don't know. The the the point is that the the the desired groove Corby Scherb: Jeb is on the preferred line right there. Jim Gardner: yeah, the the desired groove is right in the middle of the track. So both guys had Corby Scherb: Yes. Jim Gardner: the option to get out of it and give each other more room and they didn't and and and something bad Corby Scherb: Correct. Correct. Jim Gardner: happened and Charlie got the wrong end of the stick and I understand Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: why he was upset. I understand why he's upset at Jeb. If I was working on the three car, I'd have been upset and You know, if I was working on the O one J, which I wasn't this weekend, I would have said, Hey, sorry about you. That, you know, that that's how it goes. And it's unfortunate for Charlie to to to crash and tear stuff up. Again, I get it. you know, I think it's just kind of a racing deal. I don't think Jeb meant to do it on purpose. I mean, I've been around here for ten years. I can think on one occasion when somebody's been upset with Jeb. you know, I don't think Charlie even thinks he got in, you know, Jeb got into him on purpose. I think they were just both kind of trying to to get going to the front and I don't blame him. And I don't I don't want Charlie to change. Charlie's a hard charging stand on the gas. All gas, no brakes. Kid, he is really good for Slim Pushins: Entertainer. Like it's it's great. It's fun to watch. Jim Gardner: our sport. I don't want you to change Charlie. I'm a fan. you got the raw end of it there. And I don't want, you know, I don't think Jeb did anything wrong. I think it's a a product of really tough bull ring sprint car racing on a tough racetrack. And like I said Fans are there to to watch the action. You know, you can build a Mazda Miata and go race around at the parking lot of Texas Motor Speedway every Saturday morning around some cones. And you know who gets up early to go watch that shit? Nobody. Nobody. No, Slim Pushins: Your mom and dad. Your parents. That's it. Jim Gardner: they don't even go. They know that's boring, watching a car in second gear go 32 miles an hour around the parking lot, right? Sprint car racing is inherently dangerous. It's close wheel-to-wheel action and That stuff happens and it it and it sucks that it happened to Charlie there. and it sucks that it happened to Bolden and Marcus and and John. It's just it is what it is. And I don't think it needs to be that way. but that's that was the circumstance that happened, you know. So you know, I I would much rather, you know, that race, my mom was Facebook Liven for my forefront fans that are in Ohio. That race took forty four minutes. to to complete. Now a lap at Kennedale and the feature is like fifteen seconds long. It's four laps a minute for twenty laps should only be five minutes action. It took forty four minutes because it was kind of a clown show that I was a part of. And I don't think people sign up to go s watch that in August. you know, so there's gotta be a little bit more give and take. I think it's easier to adjust how we're going to start and restart than try to, you know, get eighteen people to calm down. and give each other more room. Like I think I I think Slim Pushins: So Patrick Jim Gardner: I give plenty of room, but I'm also in thirteenth. Like it ain't high stakes racing back where I am. No offense to anybody I'm racing out of time, but Slim Pushins: Patrick Stassa brought up the same point that I brought up to Jim earlier. On smaller tracks, when you've got 20, 24, 25 cars in a feature, when you start single file, you're three-quarters of the way around the track. You're gonna start you're gonna start lapping people within a lap. Jim Gardner: You know what? Tough shit. I'm sorry. Don't be I d don't be seventeenth. And and you know, I I I get it, but are we really gonna risk the guys up front crashing into each other because the guy in seventeenth is at a disadvantage? Like I could argue that that's gonna make the racing better because in three or four laps the leaders are gonna be in lap traffic, which is r really where feature races get get good, right? you know, but I d I Slim Pushins: So let me throw something out there then. Jim Gardner: Let me let me finish this. If I'm running where I was all all Saturday night, thirteenth and twelfth, right, would I be more upset if when Bolden and Marcus's crash happened that I piled in and knocked out a thousand dollar front end, or would I be more frustrated that I'm restarting in turn two as Jeb's restarting the race in turn four and I'm three quarters of a lap down? And and and everybody races clean and I get all my laps in and I try to get a little bit better. You get what I'm saying? Like there there's what's really the con? It's my point. So I'm sorry I'm sorry to cut you off, but go ahead. Slim Pushins: One of the best no no one of the one of the best shows of the night was Landon Thompson after being sent to the rear battling up to the front. And I'm only throwing this out there. I don't necessarily have a problem with single file restarts. But my point is a guy anybody, Landon Thompson in this scenario, starts from the rear, would he have been able to have that same charge with a an above average car on the night? And finish in the top four or five. Corby Scherb: Yes, d to to answer your question, what Jim Gardner: Yeah, he was fine. Corby Scherb: Chase Bru what Chase Brewer is saying that line up single file in a heat race, I mean y if you're that good, then you should be able to. It shouldn't change any of it. You still had the exact same amount of laps. The difference is is I I understand what you're saying, Chase Brewer, and you guys have always been one of the biggest supporters of the double file restart. I get it. But there is it it is becoming too common. I mean At Ardmore, the last time they raced, I Gary Owens was collected in just a horrendous crash on a double file restart because people didn't give him room. Jim Gardner: I think I think the thing that I w would make me most frustrated is the double file restart calamity usually has a lot more collateral damage. You know, luckily, Corby Scherb: Right. Jim Gardner: you know, luckily and I say this luckily, it's not luckily for for Charlie, but he was the only one in that accident. But, you know, the the second accident between Ricketts, Marcus and and Bolton, you know, Bolton had nothing to do with that, knocked out the front end. You know, Corby Scherb: Right. Jim Gardner: and and and the the the collateral damage is there and I think that's where where people get frustrated is you feel like it's taken from you, maybe, right? Like like that that wreck with Townsend. Slim Pushins: So I I threw Mike's comment up there. Jim Gardner: I wanted Mike to answer your question, I wear big yellow gloves and I wanted to go single file in the worst way because you know, I'm back there hanging on for dear life back in the dog pound and Just trying to dodge stuff and make it to the end and load up my stuff and live to race another day. We weren't very good. I mean, here's sorry for the noise. Here is that crash. And I started right behind Devin Diebreck. And, you know, we got cars broke, bouncing around like it's just real sketchy back there. And we're gonna tear up thousands of dollars worth of equipment for for nothing. Yeah, like Slim Pushins: Play that play that back now that everybody's ready for it. Jim Gardner: yeah, sorry. So This is Devin Dieberic's on board. John and Marcus get together. I don't think it's anybody's fault. I think it's two guys racing hard. And, you know, there's just a bunch of calamity there. And the guy's not giving each other any room. That's all. And I don't know how I don't know how to fix it, because I don't think we can get 20 of us in a room to agree that we're all gonna tone it down. I I I don't see it. No offense. I think everybody's stubborn and hard headed like myself. So. Slim Pushins: No, I'm that's the great thing about this. Everybody's got an opinion. Nobody's gonna I mean that's that's why we've Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. Slim Pushins: got sixty people online right now listening to three guys that shouldn't have opinions but have somehow made their own platform to have our have opinions. Jim Gardner: Yeah. And I see it both ways. Like I I I understand I understand the double fire resource. I understand why they're there. I think the stock car guys can do it. And I, you know, I understand that sprint car guys probably just give each other more room and and and it'd be fine. it's just kind of systematic. It's a it's a question it question and a conversation worth having. Like, is this really benefit the racing experience? Is anybody gonna walk out of Kennedale's main grandstand be pissed that we didn't restart with Delaware double file restarts because it wasn't entertaining enough. I don't think so. Personally. You know, I just wonder if the Slim Pushins: I'm I'm a bigger fan of the cheese cone. Jim Gardner: I just wonder if the juice is worth the squeeze. Well, the juice cone is fine. And then everybody can just line up on the bottom or the top, or you know, you can make a a a multi row advancement. it has some operational issues, especially on these small tracks, just when you put the cone out, then you got to send somebody out to go get it. You guys don't want guys out on the racetrack and it takes extra laps. And there's there's some operational stuff. I like the choose cone better than blind Delaware double file restarts. because at least you feel like your restart is in your control. You actually get to make a decision. Slim Pushins: Right. Jim Gardner: you know, so i if if that's what we need to do, but it's also chaos because you you know, you have to have a cone out there, who goes where. you know, everybody's gotta be kind of paying attention on the top of their game. So anyway, that that. Slim Pushins: Who are you laughing at, Corby? Corby Scherb: Jason Tyre. We'll go back up in in in the comments too and I mean like Raven, like I I get what you're saying, man. It's just that's just my opinion. I don't like the Delaware. it just like is Jason is saying, no one's ever gonna agree on it. Everyone's gonna have their own opinions. We're just three idiots who get on here and openly say them. Slim Pushins: Yeah, but you two have driven a car. People assume that I don't know what I'm talking about. I've never driven a car. They expect y'all to Jim Gardner: I'm just glad Slim Pushins: have some sort of educated opinions. Nobody expects Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: anything out of this guy. Corby Scherb: You know, that's Jim Gardner: Yeah. I don't Corby Scherb: it's the the Slim Pushins: Save that, Jim. Corby Scherb: the the choose cone thing, Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Corby Scherb: like I I I know that Danny Merrill had commented on I think it was actually in Roberts, saying a black flag and stuff like that, but hack how how do you decipher who's being the aggressor on a start? It's start. It's still your job to beat that person to turn one. Jim Gardner: I'd r I'd I'd rather not have a problem than have to sort the problem out personally. Corby Scherb: Right. Jim Gardner: I I I don't know. It it's not if it was an easy discussion and decision, it would already have been made long before we got Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: on here or started racing or anything. There's pros and cons to everything. That's why we talk about it and not just like blast Facebook comments everywhere. you know. Slim Pushins: Jordan Roop's on Jordan Roop agrees with me. Choose cone. All right, we've solved it. Choose cone. Jim Gardner: Yeah. You know, I Corby Scherb: It's just more work for the officials to do and Kennadell on a time crunch and they gotta get it in, that this is what they have to do, and then we have four more red flags inside of the Tuse Cone. Well the choose cone was stupid idea. Jim Gardner: Yeah, well, you know, like the race you know, b Slim Pushins: I mean that's gonna happen. Jim Gardner: before race sievers, you know, there was always a guy standing on the racetrack with a dry race board with a marker that never worked, you know, when I was a kid. And, you know, the idea of the race receiver was to get the lineups better and remove officials from the infield. Like I remember all those TSS officials were always in the infield and it was just kind of chaos. You know, we don't want more people in the infield that don't need to be there. You know, so like that's kind of a step in the wrong direction. But if we could figure out how a choose cone would work, but like that midget race I ran in March had a choose cone. And they like cho chose on the back stretch and then gave them the one to go on the front stretch. And so they actually had like a lap and a half to get lined up and not just a single lap. Because you know, if you kind of go through there Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: single file, like right, the the argument against single file is that the the train is so long it's three quarters of a track. Right. Well, by the time everybody chooses, you you gotta make another lap under yellow to get lined up. And you know, they're trying to limit laps and everybody's on time crunch. Right. So like that there's pros and cons. If we all of a sudden went to a choose cone next week, there would be another set of problems operationally. So y you know, it is what it is. But there there's probably a solution out there. We're probably not gonna figure it out today. I just I hated to see stuff get tore up unnecessarily. I don't think it adds to the show. I don't think it adds the entertainment value. I think it makes it makes us look like clowns when we can't get it a restart figured out. Slim Pushins: Well, I mean, I think clearly it added to the show. We've got fifty people currently watching us ramble, so Jim Gardner: I'm talking I'm talking about the show Saturday night of people sitting up in the stands going these tumble Corby Scherb: Th we don't care about this curve, we're talking about jump race cars. Jim Gardner: These these tumble buggies out here can't get it figured out, these bunch of non driving SOBs, right? The pushing flips are are are doing their thing and when they can't even get going fifteen miles an hour, you know? Slim Pushins: Can can we can we see the video of Harmon's sprint across the infield? Jim Gardner: I'm ashamed to say I don't have that. You're gonna have to give me a couple minutes. I mean, of all things, I think everybody saw that, which was it was it was pretty hilarious. I I Slim Pushins: We have people asking for it. Jim Gardner: don't I don't I don't have that video. Corby Scherb: You know it's 'cause it's it's like y'all are Jim Gardner: I'm sorry. Go find it. It's on race on. let me I'll try to figure it out here real quick. Go ahead and ramble, Kerbo. Slim Pushins: We'll just s sit in silence. Jim Gardner: No, God no. Please don't do that. I did see like Slim Pushins: Harmon, you knew it was coming. It mate, listen, let's talk about the sprint. Jim Gardner: I I Slim Pushins: I, in the moment, I completely understand his frustration. He's had a lot of adversity this season. He's gotten into a lot of different stuff. So I get it. That was just the last straw. And again, I'll go back to the we are entertainers. And nothing brought the front stretch crowd to life more than Harmon Burns. bolting across the infield. No matter what his intentions were, he Jeb knew he was pissed. That's I at the at the end of the day, all he probably really wanted was to get his point across. But Jim Gardner: I was wondering Slim Pushins: the front stretch went absolutely ballistic. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I guess it Slim Pushins: Corby was asleep by then. Corby didn't see it. Corby Scherb: No, actually I text Kerbo. I didn't think that it was Jet but I was wrong. And that's my fault, Charlie. I apologize. Slim Pushins: Yeah, you made me look stupid. I went to Charlie in the infield. Corby Scherb: You look stupid anyways. Slim Pushins: I went to Char that's a different kind of stupid. I went to Charlie and I was like, hey, I just got a text from Corby and he was watching it live and I'm sure he hadn't seen a replay. He doesn't think that that that was Jeb. Well clearly, after seeing a thousand replays, it was it was nobody other than Jeb. Jim Gardner: man. I got it loading. It's coming. Corby Scherb: It's like it's like Thomas Johnson said, you know, you can do a single file, like one five does with no cone on the front straight away you just go whenever you want to and we've had that conversation Jim Gardner: Free for all. Yeah. Corby Scherb: on one o about one five and I was throwing a fit and you know Slim Pushins: Did that start from Jim Gardner: He didn't Slim Pushins: the beginning or is that just how you edited it? Because Jim Gardner: No, that that's the entire race on clip. I just got the whole thing. Sorry, race on for pirating your content. Slim Pushins: Charlie, did he Charlie, did the did the officials say anything to you? What like did you just turn around? I also wanna know if that was a wave or a bird. Those are the two questions that I wanna know. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I I'm kinda hoping it's not a bird. I've been known to fling the bird around the racetrack, but I'm I'm hoping that's not the bird. I don't think it was. It is good form. You got good body lean. Slim Pushins: Well I mean in a in a fire suit. Jim Gardner: It it does does look like a full dude, if I if I made that sprint after five laps crashing a sprint car and having a belly full of corndogs, I would have probably puked all over Jeb's car. Slim Pushins: Look at look at Mr. Fire Guy. For for about a quarter of a second he was gonna make a go at him and saw his that light the mullet and the lightning speed and he was like, Yeah, I'm out. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I saw somebody somebody reposted the video and it was like, you know, when the pit lizards are at your trailer and they want your autograph on some t shirts, which is which is hil which which it Corby knows all about. Yeah, Slim Pushins: That's pretty I mean like the meme the memes and stuff that came out of it were was awesome. Corby Scherb: Here we go. Jim Gardner: so anyway. No, that Slim Pushins: He didn't lose any steam either. Jim Gardner: was that was good pace. Slim Pushins: I I would have been hoping that somebody was behind me about to sta about to tackle me. Jim Gardner: Yeah, a hold me back guy. So you could so you could be you could be faked off. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Please don't make me finish this. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Anyway, Slim Pushins: Corby, did you ever run across the track at anybody? Corby Scherb: No. Man, I've had some knee issues in my life and some shoulder issues and you know, Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Corby Scherb: puncture and collapse long before I'm like if if you see me or Jason Tyre running, everyone just better start running too. Jim Gardner: yeah, the the the crowd did go nuts. I was down in turn one wondering what happened, then I saw the pink flash roll by me and I was like, well one wasn't my fault. so Slim Pushins: If Harmon doesn't make that full stride Heisman pose into some sort of a t shirt, I feel like he's leaving something on the table. Jim Gardner: I will get on chat GPT and make your mullet even bigger if you need me to. Slim Pushins: Like a like a wedding train, like a wedding dress train Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: just flowing in the breeze. Jim Gardner: Yeah. So anyway, I think the Corby Scherb: To answer everyone's questions on on what I'm trying to say, and I'm not trying to bash one particular person, I'm saying we have to remember this is Texas three five racing, this is a hobby. We're not doing this for a career. Even the people that are trying to do this as a career are trying to make those steps to go there. Like we have to remember that Jimmy Gardner, you work very hard to have your car out there. you know Jim Gardner: I saw a lot of lights. A lot of lights paying for it. Corby Scherb: the d John Ricketts works really hard, Marcus, Michael Day with Roger Oaks, you know, and the people say that, well they don't pay for it, so it doesn't matter. Chase Brewer works really hard for his car. All these people, you know, you you got Carson Bolden and Charlie Harman around here that are young enough to maybe make it to the ASCS level. Jim Gardner: Mm. Corby Scherb: Y you know, it's it's just we have to remember that this is for fun. Yes, I want to win as bad as anyone else wants to win. But is it worth it to piss off half the field? Slim Pushins: For anybody. That goes for everybody. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Yes. Jim Gardner: It's just, you know, I again, that that whole deal. I I was sitting there watching and I was like, I wonder who he's mad at. And you know, he he yeah, he Corby Scherb: It was Jeb. It was Jeb. Jim Gardner: goes he goes he goes into Jeb's trailer and I'm sitting there thinking, like, Jeb's like the cleanest fast guy around, right? Like I try to race people clean, but like I said earlier, I'm in the dog pound in thirteenth. I'm giving room to everybody, just trying to survive and make it before I inevitably step on it, you know, but Jeb's always, I mean, he's up front every week. And and like I said, I've we've raced around him, you know, with Corby and never had an issue. Like we never had to worry about Jeb being around and then you know working for Jeb stuff. Like I was never like having to defend him, you know, with with really anybody. And so that really kind of caught my eyebrow. Corby Scherb: Other than when me and him got together. Jim Gardner: Yeah, when you two idiots crashed into each other and I was like fine, fight it out. I don't care. and you know I don't You know, and I I was just really taken aback by that. I was like, I mean, even you know, and and watching the video like just it it that's a racing deal. And and I you know, one guy got that the very, very short end of the stick and his stuff's destroyed and I hate that form, but that's that's a racing deal. So I like the passion. I don't want you to change Charlie. keep keep standing on the gas and being a showman, but you know it That that's that's just kind of a racing deal. So yeah. I'm glad Charlie, you know, I I I I'm glad Charlie and and and Jeb kind of cleared it up that doesn't pay for race car parts and it doesn't pay for the time to fix it to get back going again. I think we've got kind of a pretty good driver's, you know, ball busting group thing going on. Like we all kind of give each other a hard time and we'll race the shit out of each other, but everybody's gotten a lot of respect for everybody else. Yeah. Corby Scherb: 'Cause it's supposed to be fun. This is this is supposed to be enjoyable. Jim Gardner: I mean there's there's not many people that like we are wishing failure upon around and around town. And so, you know, we want to race the shit out of each other and and run each other hard, but nobody's you know, I don't think anybody's trying to really be disrespectful and dirty and and and wad people up. That's that's not what we're doing here, around around our our scene. So that's good. Corby Scherb: I cause it's like you're saying and and I'll just like step a little bit out of the realm. I mean, you can go to Eagle Nebraska and if you're from Texas, everyone from Texas will be there helping you. And you know what I mean? I Slim Pushins: like you're saying and just like step little bit out of the realm and if you can go to Eagle Naval Everyone from Texas will be there helping you. Absolutely. The guy that wrecked you last week is gonna be there helping you put your car back together. We've done it. People Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. So Slim Pushins: have done it for us. Jim Gardner: Yeah. yeah. I g Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: borrowing parts. Jim Gardner: yeah. So I get it. I I hope we can talk about the restart thing. I think it's an easier solution to just change the repo restart procedure to limit some of this stuff. but in in general everybody's gotta be taking care of each other a little bit better. So Slim Pushins: Ryder. Shouldn't Ryder be getting ready for a Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: A heat race? What Ryder, Jim Gardner: Ryder, what are you doing, man? Corby Scherb: With the Nessie comment. Slim Pushins: we appreciate the you being on live, but like shouldn't you be like making race car noises and shit? Jim Gardner: He better he better be locked in on the redraw or something. Now I gotta look it up, see where he's running. Corby Scherb: No, the four X never did help us, Wesley. I will agree with you with that. Yeah, that that dude, man, he had Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: a target on me for ph God. it was it was pretty much anyone. Slim Pushins: It wasn't just you. It was the last name. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: It was pretty much anyone. Well, it wasn't Man. Took some big licks because of him. Some big licks. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Ryder said gotta support the boys. Actually he said gotta support duh boys. Jim Gardner: Course. anyway, so Slim Pushins: Forty five minutes of double Delaware restart talk. Jim Gardner: I I I actually banked on it being even longer, so I'm like searching for content now that we can talk about it. Corby Scherb: See, now Andy Brewer, I I completely agree with you. Like you cannot leave that that's what Jimmy was saying, you cannot leave that up to the track. Slim Pushins: I agree. Corby Scherb: Either it's double file or it's not. Slim Pushins: It does not need to be a judgment call at all. Corby Scherb: Really, really Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: simple. And it because Jim Gardner: Yeah. A and Corby Scherb: because it if like John is saying and then Andy is saying, if that official rules it to be a one lane racetrack and it costs Carson a couple spots, well then Carson's gonna be upset. Or vice versa. Whenever it costs Chase a couple spots, then Chase is gonna be like it I wish it would have been single file. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it just I you want I look, the officials have a tough job to do. I don't want to be an official. Slim Pushins: Ryder said his heat race is firing off. Good luck, kid. Jim Gardner: I don't want to be an official. I don't want to be a promoter. I don't want to be any of those guys. I want to sh share my perspective and hopefully make this thing go a little bit better. I I I I swear to God. the officials need to be put in a position to be successful just like the drivers do. And making somebody have to make that decision every week on something, I don't think is is putting them in a good spot. So That's all. I I I w I want officials Corby Scherb: Well I'll say this again and this is go ahead. Jim Gardner: to to officiate black and white ruling. The crankshaft is this weight. If it's under, it's Corby Scherb: Correct. Jim Gardner: illegal. The car is this weight. If it's under, it's illegal. The nose wing has to be here. If it's further out, your ass is disqualified and you're banned from the podcast for a week. You know, it's Slim Pushins: We can't talk about you. Jim Gardner: correct. So, you know, it's it's not a full time job for anybody. Everybody's working hard and then going to the racetrack to enjoy themselves and then to put pressure on them and say they're wrong, they're doing it wrong, they're screwing me. Like that's that was the whole conversation. Corby Scherb: James Lopez got on there and commented and he said, This is what you guys wanted. So Jim Gardner: Okay, well then let's let's have a discussion and talk about it. I think this discussion's worth a while. Slim Pushins: But that let's want somet yeah, let's want something else. Jim Gardner: Yeah, exactly. So Tony, I'm glad you're on. I talked with Tony after the races for about half an hour. He came down and came down. We had like forty people in the pit, so it was awesome. Bunch of kids got in the race car. people are ask asking me where the transmission was. Yeah, Slim Pushins: Wait, mister Unapproachable said that forty people in the pits was awesome? Jim Gardner: yeah. I was I was fine, man. I had my backdoor eighth place finish. Didn't pass a car all night, put it in the top ten. That's a special type of talent right there, you know. So you know, take a Slim Pushins: And we we celebrated. Corby Scherb: Cause Slim Pushins: We celebrated with some well, you had happy d happy dads. Jim Gardner: I had a happy dad with with Jeb to celebrate a win. It was his first win of the year. Kerbo scared me to death. Yeah, Kurt. You didn't sign cups. Slim Pushins: Sign some cups. I did not. We were down there I was down there with Jeb. First of all, before you get into this, Corby doesn't know a ton about this. So before you get into this, we were celebrating Jim's top ten finish and Jeb's win. Somehow Jim Gardner: My my top f ten finish specifically. Slim Pushins: Somehow Jim Gardner: I don't even know why Jeb was there. Slim Pushins: somehow I ended up with some fireball and some other things and Jim I felt like I loaded the four wheeler just fine. Go ahead. Jim Gardner: So Kerbo takes Kerbo takes his four wheeler to the racetrack in the back of his truck, parks back in the corner where he's not supposed to be, and he's got these ramps, and Slim Pushins: Why do you have to call me out like that? Jim Gardner: you even you know, you're pretty good about loading it. We we Corby and I have helped you load it, and it it's fine. But Kerbo was it was dark. First of all, we were the last trailer to pull out, and they had shut the lights off on us, and all of a sudden Corby Scherb: Who would have guessed that? Who would have guessed that with Kerbo? Who would've guessed that? Slim Pushins: We were celebrating. Jim Gardner: Yeah. You don't you don't wins are not Corby Scherb: I gotta go home. Slim Pushins: You just you just piped down. Jim Gardner: we we put too much time effort and into this stuff to not celebrate the c our buddy winning like all right good job let's go home you know text you tomorrow so yeah Slim Pushins: Mr F Mr Fun Sponge, he just wants to leave. Jim Gardner: and of course the video is not queued up because of all this stuff Corby Scherb: I'm not a fun sponge. I got stuff to do on Sunday. Jim Gardner: you don't have diddly Slim Pushins: Fun sponge. Jim Gardner: poo to do Corby Scherb: Lots of things. Jim Gardner: and so Kerbo goes to load up his four wheeler And it wasn't this bad, but it was almost this bad. And I'm telling you what, Kerbo. curbo. I'm telling Slim Pushins: It was it was not anywhere close to that. Play that again. Jim Gardner: I'm telling you what, Kerbo. I saw boy, now I'm full screen. Shit. I saw the front tires up off the ground. Let me see if can pull it up. That, you guys got that freeze frame? Slim Pushins: Yes. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: That that was Saturday night at at Kennedale, back on the fence. I swear to God, Slim Pushins: That is absolutely not. That is not what it looked like. Jim Gardner: you remember those races at Boyd four years ago when all the Sherbs had to also take their dirt bikes all the time, too, like a bunch of punks, and we're just riding wheelies around the back, getting dirt all over everything while me and Wesley were slaving away on their cars. That's what Kerbo looked like loading that thing in the back of his truck. And I I'm here to tell you, Kerbo, if you'd have rolled that thing back over on you and were no longer here, I would not talk about you in in a good way. I would come on here and call Corby Scherb: Is it like peanut butter pretzels? Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: you a moron. And I would say, sorry, Slim Pushins: So Jim Gardner: Kerbo can't join us. He's in the ER because he's an idiot. And back to you, Corby. I'm telling you what, it scared the ever living out of me. Slim Pushins: Jim Jim Kim Corby Scherb: Chase Chase my god Chase Stop So so to to add to this Slim Pushins: It is what it is, Brewer. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: story listen to me to add to this story so so so Kerbo buys this four wheeler from a shop here in Decatur and we go there and w whatever the the Slim Pushins: Was given a set of ramps that were like six foot. Corby Scherb: The dude the dude knows me. No so hold on. Slim Pushins: And for those of you who don't know, I drive an F 350. Corby Scherb: Hold on. Okay, so the dude knows me and so like we go through the whole deal. Lucas came up there and like we thought about buying motorcycles and I'm like whatever man, like we're just done. We load this thing up in Curvo's truck and we take it over to my house. Well, it's the same as Jason Tyre at his parents' house, he has a dino right there next to his parents' house. You know, you can just rip up and down the road, like no one's gonna say anything. So we unload this thing at my house and no one's gonna say anything. Like we're riding up and down the road. Slim Pushins: I think you unloaded it, didn't you? Corby Scherb: Yeah, and so Kerbo goes to load this thing, and so like I'm not I'm not a small guy, I'm not a big guy either, right? And so Kerbo hits this thing at like Mach 19, right? I mean just boom, right into the ramps. And he starts going up it and I I kid you not, like I'm standing behind him like, my god. my god, like like Jim Gardner: No. Corby Scherb: I'm gonna catch him and the four wheeler, right? He gets up on there, the ramps bit in half, just bowed straight up. I mean perfect ramp. So, feel free, Jimmy. I I was there once too. Jim Gardner: Dude. This thing, this Slim Pushins: So on that one, on that one hold Jim Gardner: thing, I I was standing behind it. I will not hold on. Slim Pushins: on Jim, hold on, hold on. On that one, on that one, I saw my life flash before my eyes. And I turned around, Corby knew Corby Scherb: And what did I say to you? Slim Pushins: I was scared shitless. This four wheeler is like thirty five minutes old. And dude, I turned around and Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: Corby goes, it wasn't as bad as it felt. A week later, Corby goes, Bro, I thought you were dead. Corby Scherb: Nah. Don't worry about Jim Gardner: I thought he you you went up this ramp, Corby Scherb: It was so bad. Jim Gardner: it popped the wheelie, and then it rolled back and it teetered once or twice, and then you set Slim Pushins: It Jim Gardner: it down gingerly like boom. And I I Slim Pushins: It did not I sorry. Jim Gardner: thought I was gonna puke happy dads all over the back of your truck. Slim Pushins: Bro, Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: that's not Jim Gardner: So Slim Pushins: exactly how it happened. So Corby Scherb: I'm sure it is 'cause I've been there, Jimmy. I I was like, my god. my god. Slim Pushins: No. Corby that was a compl those ramps Jim Gardner: I have searched. Slim Pushins: were straight up. Those were six foot ramps on the back of an F three fifty four. Corby Scherb: Do you have like rolled ramps now? Slim Pushins: Yeah, they're two feet longer. Big difference. Corby Scherb: You could have just backed up to the curb and it just shortens Jim Gardner: So Corby Scherb: the throw. Jim Gardner: for the last sixty hours since my life flashed between my like I was sitting there thinking, like, I gotta call his parents and tell them. Like I gotta f I gotta call Jeb. Jeb's pulling Slim Pushins: It's not, Jason. Jim Gardner: out. Hey, Jeb, turn around and you have to save somebody else's life at the racetrack. There's nobody else here. The lights are out. And so Slim Pushins: So I think there were a couple of things at play, Jim. I there was there was fireball involved and a good handful of Bud Light, for one. And for two, you know, I was trying to I I think I was trying to be a hard ass and I probably hit it I probably hit it a little I probably hit it Jim Gardner: Well, we don't need to there's a statue of limitations, bro. I wouldn't Yeah, no, I think that was probably actually it. Gassed it up. Slim Pushins: a little faster than I should have. And I think when I got right there, you know, to like the do or die spot, I whiskey throttled it a little bit. And I think what you saw was when I whiskey throttled it. I'm not gonna say the front it felt a little different than how it n I normally load it. But I d it was not like the dude in the picture. Jim Gardner: The the balance you showed, I Corby Scherb: Is well like like Jim Gardner: I Corby Scherb: Brewer said, a little too much rear weight percentage. Jim Gardner: I'll tell you what though, he wrote out that that that wheelie, I mean it teetered up there and then he c he Corby Scherb: Jason would've been proud of him. Jim Gardner: Yeah, like I was like, man, Kerbo's an athlete here. And anyway, so since I was scared to death for the last sixty hours, I've been looking at winch engineering for Kerbo's trucks. So we have an off season project to prolong his life. Slim Pushins: Bruce said I would choose single file restarts if I were lining up four wheelers next to Slim. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I mean yeah, it Corby Scherb: Ha ha ha Jim Gardner: was Slim Pushins: It it felt a little bit different than how I normally but I I thought that a ramp had slipped a little bit. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I'll bet it did. I'll bet it did, man. It was not cool. Slim Pushins: Corby, Jim audibly gasp behind me. Corby Scherb: Mm. Jim Gardner: I was like, my God. This is this is not good. So anyway, as the best fabricator on the podcast, I will make sure I weld you up something good to to to just winch it up. Patrick's Corby Scherb: You're saying that with Patrick Sausa on here? Easy. Easy. Jim Gardner: not on the podcast. He's a viewer. He won't even be he won't even Corby Scherb: Okay, okay, okay, I'm following. I'm following. I'm my bad. Slim Pushins: He pr he pretty much is. Jim Gardner: It was a backhanded comp backhanded slam at you that you can't Corby Scherb: My bad. My bad. I no. Jim Gardner: weld one straight line bead. Corby Scherb: I can't I can weld up anything but the crack of dawn to a broken heart. Even the big jet coder rods. Slim Pushins: So yeah, so Jim So Jim under the guise Jim under the guise of being a loving friend all week has been sending me thousands of dollars worth of ideas. Jim Gardner: I I can make something better. I just need some time to figure it out. But anyway. Slim Pushins: Longer ramps. Jim Gardner: No, it's not gonna be longer ramps. Longer ramps are just gonna Corby Scherb: Logger ramp isn't fine to heel. Jim Gardner: God Slim Pushins: Yeah, that's Corby's Yeah, that's Corby's fix. Find a damn hill. Okay. Okay. I'm just gonna ask people Jim Gardner: anyway. Slim Pushins: random people to track. Is there a hill anywhere? Corby Scherb: Hey, put Andy Andy Brewer's comment up there. 'Cause I agree with that more than anything. Just go race. Just go have fun. That's what we're that's what we're doing this for. That's what we're Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha Corby Scherb: doing this podcast for. Kerbo, this is the biggest joy of Kerbo's life, and I can't wait to quit. Slim Pushins: What? The podcast? Corby Scherb: Yes. Jim Gardner: You're not quitting. You can't afford not to quit. races this weekend. We got RPM and Ardmore. I think I'm gonna go to Ardmore. I think we're gonna take baits and my car. So spares will be at a a premium. hopefully we don't crash into each Corby Scherb: Those wings. Jim Gardner: other. We won't have enough parts to load both in the trailer, but that'll be all right. And Canada. Slim Pushins: And your anxiety level is gonna be through the roof. Jim Gardner: Yeah, Canadale next weekend, RPM the weekend after that, and then race saver nationals the end of the month. We do have one five running. so run one five is running Corby Scherb: I agree with Patrick Saucer right now. Slim Pushins: Stasa said he knows what cars he's done fix done fixing now, Jim. Jim Gardner: over nationals weekend Slim Pushins: Price just went up. Jim Gardner: it and September twelfth, Grayson County Speedway. Slim Pushins: Did we miss the kids' heat? What is this? Well there are only four cars here. Jim Gardner: He'll t I'm sure he'll get back on the comments and tell us how he did. I can't stream it. I don't have the bandwidth. But anyway, that's what we got coming up this week. Power rankings. Jeb moved up some. Ricketts moved up some with a good run. Corby Scherb: At a cost of another car. Sorry Jeb. Sorry Jeb. Slim Pushins: Rick. Rick yeah. Jim Gardner: Jeb hammered his way up Slim Pushins: Ricket's moved up too. Jim Gardner: four spots in the power rankings. Kaden Trotter was up some with his second place run. Slim Pushins: Look at Weston Gorm up seven spots. Jim Gardner: Yeah, and then most of the guys who lost spots just lost them from Corby Scherb: Gorum's a dark horse, man. Don't don't don't ever doubt West and Gorum. He's a dark horse. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Claude had a a good run from the tail. They DQ'd Claude. He didn't have his transponder in or it fell off after the heat race. I can't I don't remember what it was. So he he went and won my heat race pretty handily. And then like I said, they either lost their transponder or or it wasn't on there to begin with. But he came from the tail to finish sixth or seventh on on Saturday. was a good run for him. And I think that's a Slim Pushins: I'm just curious, Stasa, do you fix four wheeler frames? I'm just asking for a friend. Jim Gardner: man. Slim Pushins: this is only heat number two. I guess they had some non-starters. Because there's only four in it. Jim Gardner: Charlie, to answer your question, I Ardmore usually runs double file. Everybody runs double file. I'm not on a crusade to to change it this week. I I just hope it's something that we can get unified with and present to these tracks like, hey, let's do this. but I'm sure it'll be Delaware double file this weekend too at Ardmore. Slim Pushins: LT wants to know where you are on the rankings. Corby Scherb: Right right above me landed. And I've been riding a pine pony all year. Jim Gardner: I just I just moved I moved up a couple spots with my second top ten of the year. Let's see. Scroll down, down, down. I still gotta go to page like four. Slim Pushins: I have real problem with all you guys that ended up crashing out that led Jim to an eighth place finish. Jim Gardner: When I deserve to run fourteenth. Yeah. at least I'm better than Bates. Slim Pushins: All right, Patrick Stassa said he he fixed side by sides and four wheelers. Corby Scherb: He's also Jim Gardner: Land Corby Scherb: you know, welded some radiators together for me and Slim Pushins: And Jeb's a and Jeb's a nurse. Jim Gardner: Mm. Slim Pushins: I've I'm covered, Jim. I ain't spending no more we're loading it in the back of the truck. Jim Gardner: Landon to answer your question, I will I am in a very solid and comfortable sixty fourth place in the power rankings. Slim Pushins: Good job, buddy. Jim Gardner: It's going on a T shirt. If I can break the top fifty, what? Keep going. Slim Pushins: And how many races how many races do you have to win? I mean do you have to race to to get credit for the season? Or does it change every week? Jim Gardner: you get credit. Corby Scherb: Yeah, I would like to know this because what if Jason Tyre lets me drive his micro probably wouldn't let me drive his, maybe like Jim Gardner: You well that doesn't count. Corby Scherb: Trenton's at Grayson in the three five class? Jim Gardner: That doesn't count in a three five race. I'm only getting fifty-six percent credit on participation because I've only run five races. fifty-six. Slim Pushins: How many? Sixty six? Fifty six? Corby Scherb: Fifty six. Jim Gardner: basically everybody in the top five in the power rankings is earning a hundred percent of their points. Jeb is only earning seventy five percent. He's only run eight races. Bolden gets eighty seven and a half percent. Well, he's gotta make a Slim Pushins: I mean the guy's out there saving lives, Jim. Does he get any credit for that? Jim Gardner: choice. of what's important to him. Saving li Corby Scherb: And like you said, Bolden, I mean Bolden's what, playing varsity basketball right now? Jim Gardner: Yeah, and he's also running OCRS, which I mean we talked Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: about the first year. I'm just I don't have that kind of time to track all that stuff. So anyway, to to earn full like points, you have to run sixty percent of the races. We have had how many races this year? We've had twenty race dates, so you have to basically run twelve races or so to to get full credit. other otherwise it kinda Slim Pushins: Lance Christie's run every single race date? Jim Gardner: Yep. Yep. The man's committed. And he's run races that I haven't even checked. He was in North Carolina running last week. He I think he got DQ'd on a nosewing deal. from running second or something. didn't Kerbo, didn't you send me that? He posted about it. They like DQ'd him Sunday for Slim Pushins: What they like each Jim Gardner: a race that was Friday. And I think it was over a nosewing position deal. I talked with I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but I talked with Rick Burdick a little bit Saturday. he they they have a big officials meeting up in Eagle, and he said he is going to try to propose a different a different mechanism to to measure that nose Corby Scherb: I like it, Jason. Jim Gardner: wing. So where it's got kind of that big jig where it can only be six inches in front of the front tires. They're going to try to run a plumb bob off of the nose wing, and basically it has to hit the front torsion rack so that it's a little bit easier to check in the shop. You don't need a bunch of special tools, and you can kind of measure it a little bit clearer more clearly. And it's going to put the wing in about the exact same s position. So again, trying to put the officials in a good spot where you don't need a special tool and drag it around. And some tracks have it, some tracks don't, and and all this stuff. So Slim Pushins: Yeah, I g f judging I Jim Gardner: But yeah, that's a little that's a little aside. Slim Pushins: haven't talked to Lance about it, but judging by his post, I guess he got DQ'd like a day or two later. Jim Gardner: Yeah, they were gonna deliberate or something, which yeah, I'm not a a fan of. Like you gotta leave the racetrack knowing where you finish it. But yeah, Lance's run, run a bunch of races. The guy wants it bad. Yeah, give him credit for that. He is he is out hauling all and he was running well down in Cotton Bowl. they had a crash. I wanna say P the fifty seven car got into a laper and Corby Scherb: Peter Peter Slim Pushins: It's probably it was probably Nathan. Probably Nathan Moore. Corby Scherb: Peter Walker. Peter Walker. Jim Gardner: Yeah. No No, no, Peter Walker like was lapping a guy who was really off the pace and like slammed the door on him to try to wow it down to get to the bottom and the lapper just stood on the gas and went faster than he had all night and plugged him in the fence. And then when they when they went back green, Lance was in the infield. So I didn't see him in the crash or in the aftermath of the crash, but maybe he broke or or or had a motor issue. I I don't know, but he was running up front before that too. He probably had a shot to win. So Nathan. Yeah. Corby Scherb: But no, sir, Nathan Moore, the non wing guy Jim Gardner: So that was that was awesome. We were giving him a hard time the other day. But anyway, that's that. Where are we at with this three sixty race? We're gonna be able to turn it on, watch the main event so I can get this thing edited and out tomorrow. Slim Pushins: they're on the third heat race and the name the kid's not in this one. Corby Scherb: I don't know. I dinner's calling my name though. It's eight o'clock. Eight fifteen. Slim Pushins: What else is on your what else is on your show notes, Corby? Corby Scherb: I think we got it. Slim Pushins: Hey, are you guys prepared for tomorrow? The big conspiracy theory about tomorrow? Corby Scherb: Hm? Here we go. Here we go. Jim Gardner: yeah, you you you you told me about this. Like all our entire Slim Pushins: Big conspiracy. Jim Gardner: conversation where we just changed the racing landscape in D FW is apparently all for naught because tomorrow the world's gonna end, according to Kerbo. Slim Pushins: Tomorrow, yeah. Th people are saying for s Corby Scherb: It's twenty fifty six. Slim Pushins: for set for seven seconds tomorrow sometime the earth is not gonna have any gravity. Jim Gardner: I'm sure. Yeah. Slim Pushins: gonna they say it's gonna kill forty million people. Are you gonna be one of the forty million, Jim? Jim Gardner: I don't know. I I would hope so, just with my Corby Scherb: Like rapture? Jim Gardner: my build and you know Slim Pushins: I don't know. I mean but you can't tell me that that wouldn't be a b badass story to tell your kids. Back in twenty twenty six the Earth didn't have any gravity for seven seconds. I know I'm gonna be holding on to something. I don't know. Jim Gardner: Where did you find this? That you you and Corby Scherb: In twenty twenty four the Earth didn't have Jim Gardner: Jeb weren't talking about this over Corby Scherb: gravity? Slim Pushins: Twenty tw Who said that? You know, this podcast is bullshit. Jim Gardner: That was that's that's that's a little rough, but true. Slim Pushins: It's well played. It's well played. Jim Gardner: It's too funny not to put up. Yeah, I don't know. Were you and Jeb talking about this having happy dads and at twelve thirty in the morning or what? Slim Pushins: I mentioned it to him. He had heard about it. Something called something called Project Anchor. Google it. Google it real quick, Jim. Jim Gardner: No. I don't want to get weird I don't want to get weird targeted ads and emails and stuff. Like I already got on the Slim Pushins: Just Google it and see what it says. Weird. Jim Gardner: racehorse Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: website. We'll talk about that here in a couple weeks. we're gonna buy a racehorse. Slim Pushins: Pushing the cushions gonna invest in a Jeb Sesame's racehorse. Corby, we didn't tell you about that, did we? Jim Gardner: but yeah, I'm not I'm not googling any of that weird stuff because I don't wanna get weird ads on all my devices. Slim Pushins: Corby, you can Google Corby Scherb: We didn't Slim Pushins: it. Corby Scherb: land on the moon, Jim, and you know that. Jim Gardner: I I like my feeds to just be racing in Cincinnati Bengals discussion only. Slim Pushins: Hold on. I'm gonna Google it. Talk amongst yourselves. Jim Gardner: I don't even like Corby. Corby Scherb: Back to you, Salon. Jim Gardner: I don't wanna talk talk to him. Corby, you gonna bring me some steel Slim Pushins: Back to you, Slim. Jim Gardner: this weekend or what? Yeah, right. You've been telling me that for two months. Corby Scherb: I can. I can. I'm working on it. Slim Pushins: Project Anchor is a viral internet conspiracy theory falsely claiming the that Earth will experience a seven second gravity blackout on august twelfth, twenty twenty six. NASA and independent scientists has confirmed this claim is completely fake. I guess we're all gonna find out tomorrow, aren't we? Corby Scherb: NASA claims it's fake, the same group that says Slim Pushins: See? Corby Scherb: we landed on the moon? Slim Pushins: See? Look at Jeb. Hold on. Hold on. Hold your horse racehorses. Gravity doesn't exist in flat Earth. He just he just has it said has it s Corby Scherb: Come on, Jeb. Come on. Jim Gardner: Jeb Jeb's just lurking in the shadows for one hour and eight minutes, listening to what we have to say about his controversial win. Corby Scherb: Come on, Jebby. Jim Gardner: And all of a sudden, he was woken up. We woke up the beast. Slim Pushins: Hey Jeb. Corby Scherb: What about Jeb hey, let's let's let's let's let's talk about this. Jeb, how Slim Pushins: Look what we got, Jeff. Corby Scherb: did Jeb, you're in the comments right now, how did you find that line on the bottom of the Exodus 2? Me and Chad Wilson talked about it, and I'm pretty sure if I watched the replay right, it was by fluke that you caught it and absolutely blew the doors off of Slim Pushins: Jason Tyre said, Hope that seven seconds doesn't happen during a Delaware restart. It's already Jim Gardner: That would be chaos. Slim Pushins: it's already a shit show. Jim Gardner: man. Slim Pushins: Tony Nichols hold on. Hold on. Tony, I see it on my phone, but I can't put it up here yet because there's a seven second gravity list d delay. Jeb said almost spun out in the middle of one and two. I asked Jeb after the race. I was like, How's it possible that you skip an entire turn? He just skipped over turn two for half the race. Jim Gardner: Hit us with that question, Tony. we are here for racing actual racing talk. Slim Pushins: What do got, Tony? Can I ask a track surface question from Saturday night? Look how polite he is. The rest of y'all should Jim Gardner: Of course. Yeah. Corby Scherb: Hit us with it. Slim Pushins: take notes. Jim Gardner: Well, I I talked to Tony for he came down to our pit for twenty, thirty minutes. It was good. He's he's from the northeast. He's he had a lot of technical questions, which I'm always about. and he's he's been Slim Pushins: Of course. Jim Gardner: a big f fan of the area and goes around a bunch of tracks. And so Tony Tony is one of the reasons we have the podcast to to show some personality and and help these guys Slim Pushins: Well, you know why Corby and I are on the podcast. Jim Gardner: Yes, we do. What's it for, Kerbo? Slim Pushins: Corbin Corbin and I are on the podcast for the chicks. It's working out well for both of us. Jim Gardner: To Tony did not bring chicks down down to the pit, so you you didn't miss anything. Slim Pushins: Corby, how did you s Corby Scherb: And Jason'll Slim Pushins: how do you Corby Scherb: tell you at Boyd. He will. I was ripping that night too. I was like, dude, I'm gonna pass Willie, I'm gonna win in front of everyone. Hometown racetrack. You know let Jason show up. He'll ruin that party. Jim Gardner: Where is we got the Knoxville Nationals coming up this week? Who's your picks to win? We're not gonna do that picks thing. I don't have enough time to actually calculate the scores, and you guys are worthless. I Slim Pushins: Did you look at our picks? I just wanna know whether or not I kicked the shit out of Corby or not. Jim Gardner: you you all have the picks, and you can do the math. I got too much other stuff going on in my life. Yeah, you can. Slim Pushins: I I can't do the math. You know that. Jim Gardner: It's easy. who's your picks to win? Slim Pushins: I lack math. Jim Gardner: Give me three guys to watch this week. Slim, go. Four ten nationals. Slim Pushins: Larson, Rico. Jim Gardner: Well, he's not Larson's not running Saturday. Slim Pushins: I'll still pick him. Rico Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Sunshine. And I you have to I guess you have to go with Reitzel the way that he's been running this year. Corby? Jim Gardner: Okay. Corby? Corby Scherb: It man, Jim Gardner: man. That was awesome. Corby Scherb: Let's just stir the pot. Brian Brown. Slim Pushins: Okay, back to you, Slim. Corby Scherb: Man, Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: All right, nobody cares nobody cares anymore, Corby. Would it be better if Corby Scherb: I mean yeah, Rights' been really fast. Okay. Slim Pushins: Bo would take a few passes with the tractor at the bottom and a few less at the top to ensure two grooves are racing? Corby Scherb: Absolutely. Absolutely. No. Stop wheel packing the top. Stop wheel packing the top. Jim Gardner: I don't so I don't Corby Scherb: Jason Yes. Yes, absolutely the Slim Pushins: The rocket. Corby Scherb: rocket. The rocket. Capital. Jim Gardner: As far as the track at Kennedale, the the track surface all year has been really, really good. I don't think anybody could come I don't think there's been a night where it hasn't been bracy or taken rubber. It took a rubber late like three races ago, with like three to go. It didn't really matter. I think they've done a really good job with the actual surface. It for whatever reason, Saturday, it kind of curbed it. Corby Scherb: More than seven, Chase. Jim Gardner: curved up and chunked up it right in the middle and it just made it really narrow. And that's why the middle was so fast is because because it it kind of got rough and and the moisture Slim Pushins: Yes. Corby's always on a delay. Jim Gardner: stayed right in right in the middle, then the bottom when it's real slick is so much slower than the middle. When it widens out and gets on the fence, the bottom kind of comes back into play because It's such a long way around the top and a short way around the bottom, like the race at RPM two weeks ago. where it Slim Pushins: We gotta get Jim a tech talk segment. Jim Gardner: where it gets where where it gets real wide. The problem that the the problem, and it wasn't a problem with Kennadale Saturday, is that the groove just ended up being narrow and it was hard to pass because everybody was kind of going the same speed. Well, all the fast guys were going the same speed, and then me was going a different speed. But we're all in the same groove. And it was kind of hard to throw sliders. There's just not a lot of room to do a lot of moving around. But overall, the track at Kendadale's been great all year. I haven't left there thinking, that kind of sucked. I've I've been to every race this year. So you know, I don't know. you know, they they some tracks do some different stuff, like they'll leave the tires out until main event time and then push them in like 10 or 15 feet so that the bottom hasn't been run on. and has some grip and you can kind of roll the bottom and you know try to build a second groove in that way. but, you know, I'm glad they rolled in the top Saturday. It made the track a little easier up on the top to run. Slim Pushins: Dude, this is a tough Jim Gardner: Okay. Slim Pushins: crowd today. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I mean Corby Scherb: Is this like a Kenny Tilbert comet there, Jason? Jim Gardner: yeah, so y they can I I don't know how to work I'm not I don't know how to work a racetrack. I'm not I I I I I got no position saying they should do this or they should do that. Like sometimes it gets dry and moves up to the walls, sometimes it ends up in the middle of the racetrack and that's just the way it is. Like it like I was saying earlier. We build the cars to be able to handle different types of scenarios. It just happens to to to to get right in the middle on Saturday. So a real issue there. Slim Pushins: Alright, the kids out on the track. Heat number two he starts outside pole. Corby Scherb: Front row outside. Just say front row outside. Jim Gardner: Wait, what race is on? Was it the main event? Slim Pushins: I'm not going to No, it's Rider's Corby Scherb: You can't. Jason's Slim Pushins: Heat it's Rider's Heat Race. Corby Scherb: on here right now and they used they used to start like I remember there was one night at North Forty they started like twelve of us on the front row. Logan got the bad end of that deal. Mike Hines absolutely punted him going to run one. Slim Pushins: Corby talking about motorcycle racing is more painful than listening to Jim Tech talk. Bates said outside poll isn't a thing. Well, I just made it a thing because I have a plat I have a platform and now it's a thing. Corby Scherb: Thank you Jason. Front row outside. Front row outside. Slim Pushins: Outside pole, we're going outside pole. There's not one person on earth, well, maybe on earth, that's ever watched any sort of racing that doesn't know exactly where he's starting when I say that. Corby Scherb: We know you're wrong. Slim Pushins: You say that I'm wrong. Corby Scherb: We know you're wrong. Jim Gardner: I was Slim Pushins: Jim was making me work Saturday. Jim Gardner: yeah, I was bobbing and weaving trying to hold off Landon Thompson and finally gave up. Yeah. I was so my car was so tight. Slim Pushins: In the heat race? I'd a dumped you. I would have dumped the shit out of you. Jim Gardner: It was so awful in that heat race. And I was I was Slim Pushins: How mad were you when you came off the track after that heat race? Jim Gardner: I was pretty fired up. Mm Slim Pushins: I should have sent I sh I should have loaded that picture that I took of you just moping sitting on the tire just contemplating every life decision you made that led you up to Saturday night. Jim Gardner: I was yeah, so the look a car was terrible. It was burying the right front. Like I had bottomed out the right front shock. The right rear was bottomed out. The left front felt like it was a foot and a half off the ground. And no matter what I did, it was just it was awful. And I didn't get a good start. Michael Day not enough. Corby Scherb: How much air do you have the right rear? Do you know better do you know better than that? Slim Pushins: Too much. Jim Gardner: I thought I had it covered and I didn't. But Michael Day kind of Crowded me on the start and broke all my momentum and it let somebody else buy me. And then I kind of had Landon pinned down on the bottom. You know, I was just kind of fast enough to be in the way. And then I saw him show the nose and I let him go because I'm not really racing Landon. And you know. Slim Pushins: Corby Jordan Roop wants to know if you changed hair product. It looks extra flippy today. Corby Scherb: It's the same stuff. Jim Gardner: man. Well, I was hoping to get Jeb on. I texted him the link. to to get in here, but he said he said he's got he's on baby duty, which I understand. Slim Pushins: I got Jeb's cup. Jim Gardner: So well, I hope everybody survives seven seconds Slim Pushins: We're s we're still celebrating the big win. Jim Gardner: and no gravity tomorrow. Slim Pushins: Hold on, the kid we're not getting off right now. The kid's about to go green. It's not our fault you don't have enough bandwidth. Jim Gardner: Are you gonna My internet can't handle it? It it it can't handle me on here, my Corby Scherb: Jason. That was a great start Slim Pushins: we just we just started three wide. Corby Scherb: right there. Slim Pushins: There's no way they're gonna let that go. Corby Scherb: Get him kid. There you go. Jim Gardner: This is great radio right here, guys. Talk. Slim Pushins: That was a hell of a recovery though. They Corby Scherb: See in in these moments too, like we're we're do we're just we're gonna well Slim Pushins: literally started three wide. Corby Scherb: hold on, like we're gonna keep stirring the pot here. Like Ryder knows he's the fastest starting at the front. He just drove by the person who jumped Slim Pushins: Two spots. Corby Scherb: Jason, I don't need your lip right now. Jim Gardner: What do we Yeah. Slim Pushins: All right, we're gonna try to go green again. You're just in the dark over there, aren't you, Jim? Jim Gardner: I w well keep Corby Scherb: I love it that now they're all bagging on me, not just you, Kirby. Slim Pushins: That they're bagging on Jim too? Jim Gardner: Keep Corby Scherb: No, they're bagging on me Jim Gardner: keep Corby Scherb: now. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: told you this is a rough crowd. What I think's messed up is we had sixty people on a while ago rider bails and then we lose fifteen people just right off the bat. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Good start, kid. Jim Gardner: I'd love for you guys to talk while this is going on, you know, 'cause this is an audio platform for the rest of the week. Slim Pushins: The kid just passed everybody Corby Scherb: Yeah, you know, Slim Pushins: on the outside. The seventy one car's smoking. Corby Scherb: he just he's pulling away from Baker, the kid's got it in Slim Pushins: Still smoking. Corby Scherb: a bag, he's just got to hit his Ps and Q's and relax, take a deep breath, soft hands. You don't Slim Pushins: kids in the lead by probably three cars car links. Corby Scherb: know what you're talking about, I'm telling you what he's doing inside of his head right now. He's gotta relax, soft hands, make it happen. Like I said on that first start, he knew that he was the fastest car towards the front. And Slim Pushins: How did he know that? Corby Scherb: because he drove right by him. And Slim Pushins: 'Cause he was the fastest car. Corby Scherb: No, the dude jumped the start and he still drove by him. He's up there rolling. It's no worries. Slim Pushins: How many car links is that now? Six? Corby Scherb: It's no r it's no worries right now. It's look super soft hands. He turns to the left. He trusted the car's gonna turn to the left, Jim. Like I've said a hundred times. Slim Pushins: What kind of air pressure do you think he's working Jim Gardner: I know. Slim Pushins: with right now, Jim? Jim Gardner: More mo more than I had. Corby Scherb: I bet you he's got nine and a half in the right rear, four and a half in the left rear. Yeah. I I believe that. Slim Pushins: More than you had? Jim Gardner: I was being aggressive with it, man. I do. Corby Scherb: And you know better than that at Kennedale? Slim Pushins: Kensington said 'cause I told him. What'd you tell him? Corby Scherb: And it's got the left rear tied down, right rear freed up. Jim Gardner: Well, that would make it tight. Corby Scherb: Can't keep it winged over. Jim Gardner: so I do have two My Race Pass accounts. Whoops. Slim Pushins: What? Jim Gardner: Yeah. I had two flow racing accounts for a while and Got that turned off. Slim Pushins: How does that even happen? Jim Gardner: I don't know. Slim Pushins: So at some point I guess I signed up for the yearly My Race or flow account and that hit me about three weeks ago. Corby Scherb: man. Jim Gardner: Corby, we can't see what's happening. You have to say what happened. Corby Scherb: It's a lapper that checked up big time in front of Baker. Ryder has no idea what's going on. Slim Pushins: Find him. Corby Scherb: As I as I said, he's just cruising. Look at that. The car's winged over with Slim Pushins: Look at those long arms. Corby Scherb: that shock the left rear shock. Not I mean I'm not saying tie it all the way down, I'm saying pull down. Just absolutely blows the doors off Then he goes to the bottom just to try it out, look better right there through one and two on the bottom. Slim Pushins: Good job, kid. Jim Gardner: Well here my my one my race pass account's a premium, so I'll get live timing on here on that. My other one was not Slim Pushins: Well the it's over now, so Corby Scherb: Koy, Coi, I am so with you. We're getting him in there. Put it up there. Put it up there. Chad Jenkins. Slim Pushins: It's not gonna happen. I'm not driving Jim Gardner: Tuners. Slim Pushins: I'm not racing a beater. Corby Scherb: You're you're racing Jim Gardner: Yeah, he Corby Scherb: a tuner. Jim Gardner: He's too talented no. He's gonna Slim Pushins: It's not gonna h I don't even know what the hell a tuner is. Jim Gardner: run a Crown Vic, the the super troopers. Slim Pushins: There you go, Kens. Kins is Jim Gardner: There's there's good margins in selling the the highest quality lights the Chinese can produce at the cheapest prices. Slim Pushins: There you go. Two flow account. How how's that even happen, Jim? Don't you wouldn't when you logged into this that wouldn't it wouldn't it go, Hey, you've already this email address is already being used? Jim Gardner: No, it was on different emails and accounts, that's why. That's why I had two. But then like I also I think pay for my dad's. So I might have three. I don't know. Slim Pushins: Three. Wait, you pay for your dads? Jim Gardner: Yeah, because you know, my mom's a big Kyle Arson fan and accosted him at the Tulsa shootout. my mom did a corndog review and she gave it a ten out of ten. We'll probably post that this week. It's a little long winded. But Slim Pushins: thought you were gonna edit it. So you said I didn't watch it because I was doing a corndog review with Jeb and Carson Bolden. But when Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: I got back to Jim's trailer he was like that was that was that was way long winded. Jim Gardner: Ha Slim Pushins: I was like how does a how does a corndog review go long winded? He said she started talking about White Castle. Jim Gardner: man, there's only eleven three fives up in Marshalltown. I could have got another top ten. Slim Pushins: Wow. Jim Gardner: Hmm. Slim Pushins: One top ten finish and all of a sudden we're world class. Jim Gardner: I've had two. Slim Pushins: Where was the other one? Jim Gardner: Greenville. Corby Scherb: Way past brewer. I'm waiting. I'm being patient right now. Jim Gardner: Alright, let's wrap this up. Wrap it up, Kerbo. I've had I've had enough fun. Slim Pushins: So corn dog reviews this week, two of Jim Gardner: Yep. Slim Pushins: I haven't seen your mothers, but I can tell did I send you Jeb and Carson's? Jim Gardner: You did? Slim Pushins: Okay. So Jim will probably post them right on top of each other so it takes views from each other. Look at Jim's face. Absolutely over it. Listen, thanks everybody for Jim Gardner: Can we leave? I wanna go hang out with my wife. Corby Scherb: Alright boys, gotta wrap it up. Slim Pushins: joining us. I don't know I don't know what our opinions matter to anybody, but we really appreciate everybody Corby Scherb: Just stir in the pot. Slim Pushins: logging in and watching. we appreciate all the support. we've we've gotten a whole lot more followers this week, last week, and we truly appreciate it. We're we're just out here doing this for fun. We make Jim pay for everything, so he's got the money apparently. Corby Scherb: He's got the money, apparently. Slim Pushins: Yeah. So Jim Gardner: Yeah, wanna. Slim Pushins: anyway, we really appreciate it. Thanks for following us on TikTok. we've got we've got pushing the cushion swag on stompin' steer dot com. I think Jim gave us our own little caveat, didn't you Jim? Jim Gardner: Yep. Back to you, Slim. Slim Pushins: So we got hats, t shirts. Trying to talk Jim into some Corby Scherb: No. Slim Pushins: different stuff. We've got some stuff in the works. Corby came up with a pretty good idea that we might put on a t shirt. that we're not ready to tell anybody just yet. but it's typical it's typical pushing the cushion BS. So we really appreciate everybody. As always. Corby? You got closing comments? Back to you, Slim. Corby Scherb: No, we're good, man. I think I said everything I needed to. Slim Pushins: All right. Thanks everybody. Jim Gardner: See you guys.