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Chulin 12 · Daf Yomi with Aaron Cohen

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, Khulendaf Yudbez, and we're gonna start where we left off yesterday by the two dots, four lines from the top of Yudbez Amin Aleph.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: Amr Nachman, we start off with a halocha in Hukhashkita Umr Nachman Amarav in the name of Rah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ruh Echat Shachat.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: If someone sees a guy shafting, so can you trust the shrita?
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  SPEAKER_00: Can you eat from Mishkita or not?
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: If you saw him from the beginning to the end, you saw the Ganshkita and you saw it was good.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_00: Then you're allowed to eat from the Shita.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: However, Vim Lab also Mishitasa, but if you did not see it from beginning to end, you're not gonna be able to eat from the Shita.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gamaro Ken.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's a clear cut then.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: You have to see it every time you eat meat, you have to see the guy shafting.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: So the gummy, what exactly is the case?
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: Who are we dealing with over here?
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: Who is the shreikit?
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: Edi Gummir.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: If you know this guy that shafted, knows how choshita, he knows what he's doing, then Mamali Ra, why do you need to see him?
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need to see the Shoikit, it's a Hanaman Mesaur.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know that he knows what he's doing, he knows the lachas, he knows how to do shritah, so you're good to go.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need to see him, be the odd the light gummer.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: If you know that he doesn't know what he's doing, you know that he doesn't know the choshita, then uh read the odds of the legamer phishita, then it's pash it.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_00: You're only gonna be able to rely on it if you saw everything was me'ach.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning if you know that he doesn't know the allachas, of course you can't rely on it, and it's only gonna be good if you saw from beginning meet he lost the outside.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_00: So what exactly is the case?
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: So rather, we must be talking about a case where you don't know, you posha don't know if he knows the shita or not, and therefore if you saw that it was good, yeah.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: If you didn't see that it was good, then no.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't we apply uh well we know that Roy Mitsuin It's a Shita Mumchin, that most people that are Mitsuinish it's most people that are being masastic that are isik in shita usually know what they're doing.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: There's a right to say that most people that you would find shachting, not everyone's taking a knife and starting to shak, right?
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: So the guy that is, most people like that know already Hokhashitov.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: They're they're mumchhin, and therefore, based on that rive, we should be able to say that he was probably a mumchhid.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know if he is or not.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: He's probably a mumchhai.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: Satan, mean like I have a price to support that.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hurish Matatani Gashut of a Shok.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_00: Someone who found a chicken that was shachtid in the shuk.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't see where it came from, it doesn't have a haksh on it.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: And he stam found that it was shachad in the shok.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: Or he told his shliach, go and shacht for me a chicken.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um mata shachut.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: Then he found it shachhted.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: He saw this chicken, he told his shliyach to shacht, he saw it later shachtid.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: But he didn't see the shliak shachtid, or the shiach never told him that he actually was Makhaim the Shlich, and went and shafted it.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: He stam saw that same chicken I saw, I told him earlier to shach, uh, is now shachtid, but you don't know for sure that it was in.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: So Kheskanshach, the Allah is that you could rely on this to Shechtid properly and you're gonna be able to eat it.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: What do we see over here?
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: Amrinan, we must say, it must be because we say Roy Mitsuin it's because even if someone else schechted it, or you found the random tarnigalas shuta bash, someone sheched it, right?
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, but who shachted it?
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: You have no idea, you just found the schechtid.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: It must be because we say what that's most people that are gonna shecht know what they're doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Most people that are mitsuin by shit are mumchhin and they know what they're doing, and therefore, you should be able to rely on it.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: So, why over here are we telling you you're gonna you're only gonna be this guy schechting it.
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  SPEAKER_00: You see him shachting it, and you don't know if he knows what he's doing or not.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know if he's a mum'ch, you don't know a mekla.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's only gonna be good if you see him in Khilas of Atsai.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why?
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  SPEAKER_00: You should be able to apply this to where we said that Rahim Mitsuin's Shita Mumchnain.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_00: We just brought you uh the Mikar where we see that.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemarilla Ullam the Yadullah Gamir.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_00: Really, this guy that we said you have to see from the beginning to the end of the shtita.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: We know 100% the Lai Gamir.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: We know that he doesn't know what he's doing.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: He does not know that how to shake properly, he doesn't know ill khita.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: Vik guy, what's the case?
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: The shachatkamon khadsimin shapir.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_00: He shachted again, you have to check two simon, right?
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: So he shafted the first one very good.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: And you didn't see the second one.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: You only saw while he was cutting through the first one, then I don't know, you looked away, you saw something else, you didn't see him cut through the second one.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: So my own details with the high shop here, hachnami shop.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I would think since you saw the first one, then the first one is good.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: So he probably continued the same way and did the second one also good.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean the high shop here, hachnami shopper.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: From the fact the first one was good, the second one was also good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Kamash Malan, what's the khiddish?
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: Ha hai isramuiye isramile.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: We could tell you khidish that really this one, the first sim insamit came out.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was random that it happened like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: He happened to have gotten a good.
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  SPEAKER_00: But Shem Oshah, but the other one, Idoh, the other one, Shem Oshah, Shemadaras, you have all these fekas and maybe he didn't do it the proper way, and therefore, this is gonna be the Allah that you're gonna have to see him.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_00: This guy that you don't know 100%, you're gonna have to see him mitchilasai the atzaifa.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or rather, not that you don't know if he's good.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: You actually don't know.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: You you you know that he doesn't know.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know 100% that he does not know.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: He's Loy Gamir, he does not know the khushkita, so you're gonna have to see him mithilas of a saifai.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: The khadish is in a case, again, it's pshitah, yeah, it's posh it, but it's not so posh it in a case where you saw one of them because you have an umdunata.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe saying the high shapir, a nami shapir, kamashmalanda.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: No, the first one happened to be good.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe he's gonna mess up on the second simon, and that's why you have to see the entire time.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_00: But remnach, if asked for him the following.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_00: Someone who tells his shliyak, go and shach me something, right?
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: The halachumat's a shachat.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: And then he finds that animal that he told his shliach to shaft, he found it shachhted.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mao, what's gonna be the alocha?
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  SPEAKER_00: Meaning, do we assume that the shliach he told the shachtid was the one that shachhted it, and therefore it's gonna be good?
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm a lay is cussing shachut.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: The chazakah is that it's shachut, it's good to go.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: Go and separate trumah from uh the produce over there.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: And then the Mishalach again went, umatsu tarim, and he found that stuff that he told the shriek to separate, and he found that Suma was separated, very good.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: But he didn't know that the Shia did it.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't get a report back from the Shiach saying that I did the Shlichus.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: So in this case, my what's gonna be the Allah omerlay, in chaskas tarm.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's different than Shrikita.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: But we hear about Shuma, it's chazak is not that it's taram.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: You can't rely on what you see in front of you, even though it was taken off.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara, what's the difference between these two cases?
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  SPEAKER_00: Man of Shach.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning either to be the same or not.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: If we have a chazakah to say that a shliach generally does his shlýchus, then you have a chazakah.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: Again, we know this concept that a shliach is gonna do his shlicha.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you found, you told him to go shak, you find it schechted.
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  SPEAKER_00: So chazaka shiach is a shllichusa, it's a good shita.
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  SPEAKER_00: Same thing with trumah, therefore afidut trim and says the Gemara.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna tell me this chazaka, then Afidu Trumanami, you should say by Truma also.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you found it separated, Chazakha Shliach is a shlýchusa, you told him to do it, so he's the one that did it, your guns find good to go.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: And if we don't have this chazaka that the shriek does his shlýchas, then just because you found it schechted and you told him to, so what?
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have a chazakah that the shrik is gonna do his shlýchas.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: So who said it was him?
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: Who said he shachhted?
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  SPEAKER_00: And maybe something happen, maybe something else happened, and therefore, afilushkutan, shita and amila, even by shahitah also, it shouldn't be okay.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: So what's the difference?
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  SPEAKER_00: Why by shahitah yeah, but by churmanat, says the Gemora Amelei, he answered him.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: So again, this is Rivdimi Bar Yaisiv and ask asking from Rimnachman.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: So he answered him back, Lakhitehla kura de milchum.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'll give you an answer to this when you measure for me a core of uh of salt.
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  SPEAKER_00: Basically, goes do go do some chore for me, and uh then I'll tell you the answer.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna be for free.
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  SPEAKER_00: Rash he says it's bidihusa.
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  SPEAKER_00: Meaning if you do something for me, I'll tell you the answer.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I guess he did it, but because he goes on to tell him the answer, what's the answer?
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: Or if it's then maybe he didn't.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: But the point is, the ailam in chazak is shikhusa.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: What did he answer him?
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: Really, there's no hazakh that a shaykh is gonna go ahead and do the shriekas.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what's the difference by shahitah?
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
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  SPEAKER_00: If you told the shiach to go and shachten, and then you saw that it was shachti, but you didn't know specifically that the shiach shafted, if there's no chazakh that a shaykh is gonna do the shlýchas, then why do you why can you rely that it's a good shahita?
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean maybe something else happened.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: Says Gemar.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: Shit is different.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because I na me in a shachrin is Shama Vaz al-Shachat, because even if a different guy ended up shafting it, even if we say again that that a Shriach doesn't necessarily do a shlikash, so he wasn't necessarily the one that shafted it, maybe it was someone else.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: But even tell us, Gomar, it's not a problem.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because Rahim Matween it's a shrita mumchina.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: And the other day, someone shafted it, you see it shachted, so I don't care if it was a shriach or not.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: Rai mituin it's al-shrida mumchinain, most people that are nasasic with shrī uh in shita are mumchhin, and therefore you could trust it.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's a good shit, you're good to go.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas Truma, as it relates to Truma, Dilma in is Shahina Shama Bahaz.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: So again, if you're gonna tell me that ain't Shriyah Shikhusa, there's no chazaker to say that, then you saw it separated, you saw Truma separated, who said that it was that guy?
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, it doesn't have to be that guy, says the Gemari.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: Because if a different person, Dilma in a Shaqina Shamabazul Tar, maybe a different guy heard that you wanted this done, and he separated it, and how shalomidas, and that would be considered someone who's tahrim shalomidas without the permission of the Balathua.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Tahirim Shlai Das and Trumash Truma.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: And we know someone who separates Truma not with the das of the Balathua, not with his permission, it's not considered anything.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: Only the Shalia you appointed had the right to do that, because you appointed the Shia, but a different guy did it.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas Shita, as long as it was shafted properly, I don't care who did it.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: Remitsu name to Sheta Mukhana, and that's gonna be the difference.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's why that the case of the Sheita, if you found it shafted, you can rely on that when it's dying.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: In the case of the Truma, specifically if you're Shia, yeah.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: If someone else did it, no, and you don't know that's like separated.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know that necessarily that it was usually not going to be able to do that one.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe this concept of right between eight of shita is really almost like a ton of anyway, but of eternal guidance of someone who lost his goats and his chickens.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: The Hada Humatana, then he found them, but he found them shahuti, and he found them shafted.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: So he didn't find them in the best way possible.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: But the question is, right now he found them shafted, these are his goats and his chickens.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: Can he at least eat them now?
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: So Rabu the Ais R Bahanina Banisha Rabiasaglini, Mathiya Rebuh says yeah.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Rabiuda says no, and Rebu Ais R Bahanina Banisha Riaseglili is Mathi.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: He says, Yes, you can eat it, says the Gemara.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: Continuing along.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my Rebi.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: Rebbi's Mahri over here.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: And he says, You want to know what the Allah is?
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: Nirim Devri Nirin Devarim Shah Rabbihudash and Bashbah.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_00: It makes sense to say like Rabbi Huda that it's gonna be Asir based on where you found it.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: If you found it in the garbage, in the ashpa, and the garbage dump, then it makes sense to say like Rabyuda that you're not gonna be able to eat it.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because why?
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because the garbage is a place where people throw an avela, so maybe this was an avela and something like that, and that's why the guy threw it there.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: So it makes sense to say like a to Asir it when you found the Bahashbah, Rabchanina, but I should be like Lady Shamatan Bais.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: And if you found it in the house, then it makes sense to say that it's mutter like Rabchanina.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: So it says the Kimar, what's a machlikus?
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: My love isn't a machelikus the following.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe there's a machikas.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: Whether you say it's mutter or asser when you find it.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: Again, without Rebbe for a second being mahir between the two.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: The basic machaicus, if you go and find it as a mutter rasur.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: So the one that says it's mutter is gonna tell you because Rabbi Natashita Mumchin.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: You found a chahta, very good.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: Based on the Rabu was a good guy that did it, you're good to go.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: And the one that says no, it's Asir, Ribuda, he's gonna tell you because we don't say that Rabitrin Sushita Mumchanin.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: So is this Machlikastan?
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: Naim, Am Riv Nachman by Yitzhak Loy.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: Not necessarily.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: I could really tell you the Kuliama Rhitsunat Toshita Mumchinin.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_00: I could really tell you that everyone holds, even Rabbi Huda holds, that Rahmitsuinatushita Mumchin.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: Aye, so why does Rabiuda asir it?
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh babai is to Kuleamay Plagidashari.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: Because everyone would agree.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: Bain Rabihuda, Bain Ribchanina, they're both gonna agree in a house.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: If you found it in a house, then it's okay.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: Because again, there's only enough to say that it's kosher meat.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: It was shahted.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: Remetun ethoshita mumchin.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: So it was done by a mumchha, you're good to go.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's in a normal place, nothing, no reason to assume it's a naval, it's not an ashbah.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: No problem.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone's gonna agree.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: Ba'ashbah, shabashuk, if you have the public garbage dump in the middle of the shuk, that's already the public place, it's much more of a reason.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: So the Kulima Pligid Asir, everyone's gonna agree, even Rab Khanina's gonna agree it's gonna be Asir.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Because if someone put it in a place like that, for sure it's a naval.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: He plagiaris, where is the machlegis Baashba Shabais?
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: If it's in your private garbage in your driveway.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: So in that type of case, this is the machlagis.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: Marsavar Adam Asil Lahatil Nivlas Bashba Sha Babais.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: Rabi Yudah says it's asar because he holds that a person would put his naval in his own uh uh Ashbah Shabbai's in the garbage in his house.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: A person would do that, and therefore you have to be hush that it's a naval, and it's gonna be assured.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Mar Savar B Khanina holds, in Adam Aysa Asui Lahatil Nivela Sabah Ashma Shabais.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_00: A person wouldn't put if he had a naval, he would not put it Ba'ashpah Shabbai's in Ashpa in his own house.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: And the reason is Rashid says because it smells.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why a person would have put it there.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's Machlaika specifically, the Ashbah Shabbai's.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: But really, everyone holds Rebitsu in it's the Gamar.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: Amar, let's try to figure this out.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Amar Rebbe, what did Reb Rebbe came along and was Machriya based off where he found it?
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: So Rebbi said, Rebbi said that it makes sense to say like Rebuh that it's gonna be Asser if he found it in an Ashbah.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: So what Ashbah was Rebbe talking about?
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: That the Allah's gonna be like Rebuh, it's gonna be Asir if you found it in an Ashbah.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: What kind of Ashba was Rebbe talking about?
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: E Laymah, my Ashba, E Laima, Ashbashabashuk.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: If he was talking about the Ashpa Shabashuk, Ha Amrtikulay plight the Asir.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: We just said, based on Urv Nahmad Baryith, he just said that by Ashpa Shabash, everyone agrees that it's going to be Asar if you put it if you found it in the Ashbashibash.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: So what do you mean Rebbe is saying it makes sense like Urbi Yehuda but Ashbashabashuk?
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, everyone agrees in that case.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: Even Ibn Khanina agrees in that case that it's gonna be Asar.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: So Allah Pshitah, so it's posh, it says the Gemara.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: Bashbash.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: What he meant was in the Ashbah in your house, that's the Machlekis.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and that's very nice.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's what we just said according to Ramnachman Rayyat Shaq, that the whole machelikes isn't Bashbashabais.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: But says the Gemara, okay, that's one way to do it, but I still have a deal with the other way from the sepa.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: Hey Ma Sepah, and Rebbe continued.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: And it makes sense to say that the Allah has a bhakhanina, but Nisha Besa Glili that it's gonna be mutter if you found it in a house.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: It says the Gemara, what are we talking about?
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_00: My bayas, what kind of house?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: That everyone's going to agree if you found it in an actual house, even Rabbi Huda is gonna agree that it's gonna be mutter.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: So elabshito it's pash, that be ashpa shabba bayas.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: What did he mean when he said bias?
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: It makes sense like him, like Rab Khanina to say it's mutter if you found it in a bayas.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, he meant what?
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Ba'ashpa Shebaba Bayas, which means what?
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_00: Two opposite diukim.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: Kashid Rabbi Ad Rabbi, stirro within the mashmas of what Rabbi said.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: On one hand he said Ashpa Shababaes is muttar like Rbchanina, and on the other hand, he said Ashpa Shababais is usr like Rabbiudas, Tirin Rabbi.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: So obviously we read the Braissa the wrong way.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: And how do you have to read it?
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: We have to reconstruct a little bit and read the Braissa the following.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: This is how we have to read the Braissa.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: Nirin, it's a little wordy, so keep track.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: Nirin divi Rabbihud Rebi Khanina Binash Rabisa Gili Baashbushabashuk.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: Rebuhuda's Pshat makes sense more than Armchanina Banash Rabysa Glili Pshat Baashbashabashuk.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's where we're gonna go like Rebuda.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Sha'ap for B chanina Banashabya Glith in the Khalkalabala Bashbashabah.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: Because even Rabchanina's gonna agree, even Armchanina's gonna agree to him in Ashbashabashuk.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: He only argued by the Ashbashabias.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: Abu Bashbashabashuk mightily.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: But by the Ashbashabashuk, he agrees, as we said before, the Kulayama.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: As it relates to a bias.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna go like him that it's mutter if he found it in the house.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: Because by the bias itself, it's going to be fine, even according to Rabbiud, even Rabbiuda's gonna be my dad, and therefore the way you set this up, the way you read it into the Brice, it's not a cash of the Rebbe and the Rebbe, and you just have to reconstruct a little bit.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: And then what Rebbe was saying is that they're both in agreement as it relates to the extreme cases, like we said.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: Where's the whole Machlaikis?
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: Be ashba Sheba Bais.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: As it relates to the Ashba Shaba Bais, Mar Saba, like we saw in Amaralf, Mar Sober, that uh Adam Asui Lahap to Univlasai, be ashba shabba bays.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: And Rebi Huda's gonna say that a person does not put his own Nivela in his own garbage bag, garbage dump in the side of his house.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: And the reason is because it smells, says the Gemara.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: Chutmi Hershah Tavakatan.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: Going back to that base.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: If you're not holding, brand new suit.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: Going back to that base on the Mishnah where we learned that Hakul Shait Shaktin, Ushita Sing Shera.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone can do Shita.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: By the way, Shita Singshera, the Yeva, the Khathila, we hacked all of that, right?
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: But then the Mishnah went on to say, Chutmi Hershah to Vakatan.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Except for Harshot of Vakatan, they're not gonna be able to do Shita, right?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: And then the Mishnah continued and said, if all these people that aren't supposed to schecht, if they ended up Shechting, and other people saw then that it was good, then it's gonna be good with the evidence.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemar like this.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: What was the reason we said?
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: We said in the Mishnah that you're not allowed to have a Kershad of Vagatan, Shema yikalkulushitasim, because maybe they will.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's the main point over here.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: Shemeye kalkulushitasim because maybe they're gonna mess up.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemarat.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: Shemokilkulu likeani.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't say Shema Kilkulu because maybe they messed up.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning you can't rely on the Shita, but Hershad of Vikatan because maybe they messed up on it.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: What would that sound like?
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: What would you try to say if you were saying Alashana Bidiavid?
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: You would say Shemakilkulu because maybe they messed up.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Again, if it's only biddiyavid is then, if it's possible even midyaven, then yeah, you can't use it, l'hatchilah for sure not.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: But even bidyavid, when they after after they did it, what's biddievid?
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: Bidiyavad after it was done.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Bidyavid means after.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: So even so when we say shemakilkulu like it's not, it doesn't say shema kilkulu because maybe they messed up.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about even midyavan.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: Eloshema yikalkulu.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: It says because maybe they will mess up.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: Rashi explains what's the what's the point over here?
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because again, we said in the beginning of the Mishnah, Hakul Shekhtin.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone's able to shaikh, mashma lichathila, Ushkitasan Kshaira, eh the Shkitah's gonna be Kashra.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: What does that sound like?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's Mashmah with the Evan.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: We went through these sukya's, right?
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: Shitasun Kshera is Mashmah with the Evid.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: If it's done already, then it's gonna be um then it's gonna be Kshairah.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then we said Chutzmi Kherashad of Vakatan.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: Rashi says, Kedik Tani, Ushkitasan Ksha, Chutzmi Kherashad of Katan, except for Hher Shah to Vakatin, they're not gonna be able to do it even uh even Bidi Evid.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: What does that teach me?
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: So from the fact that the Mishnah says, I mean the proper grammar you would think if we're talking about a case of Bidi Evid is Shema Kilkhlu, because maybe they messed it up because they already did it, Biddi Evid.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: So we don't say that, we said Shema Yukalkalu, and Amarav Rabbat says, Zoisimers teaches me Ain Moisrunan Hulin the Khathila.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: That even the way that the Mishnah told you it's gonna be okay, a chirin royna son, the kul and sheshaktu, because again we went on to say, Vikulan sheshaktu, and if you remember, we went through these suyas.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Who is going there?
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: Ahay, who is Vikulan Sheshaktu going on?
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: If it's going on the Hershat of Katan, by the way, the Gamari over here is clearly assuming that it's going on the Hershat of Khatan.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: But you're gonna ask me a question, and Rashi asked it over here that uh what do you mean?
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: We learnt all these suyas, right?
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: Vikulan Sheshahtu is ahay.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: E the Mah Khershat of Vakatan.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna tell me it's going on back on the Hershath of Vakatan, what would be the proper grammar?
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: We're just talking about them.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: The Im Shachtu me by the way you should have to say the imshahtu.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: So that's Vikulin Sheshachtu, so it must be going on this case, that case.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's why Rashi speaks out of a ear.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: Claw, Tysis over there, and when we learnt the suyas reference this Rashi, that it the whole time the Kulan, I think we said this then, it's it the kulun was always also going on the Hershad of Khatan.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: The whole question was, was it also talking about someone else?
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's what Rashid says right here.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, the Kulan Sheshaktu that the Mishnah tells you, anyone that shachted that wasn't supposed to shacht, as long as you saw them, it's okay.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: That is also going on the Khershad of Khatan, we said.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: If we're going on that, then V'im Shaqtu mi baile.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: Again, Allah Koi, we're coming right off that.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: So the proper grammar would be'im shaftu.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: Rashi just says, Haqhipachin, the the po what we meant to ask over there is if you're telling me that it's only going on Khershad of Khatan, right?
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: Khershah divakatan lichuday, then it should have said veim shaqtu.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: So obviously from the fact that it says vikulan, it's more inclusive, it's talking about someone else also.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the Sugi's movement.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: They're trying to figure out who else is the Mishnah, including when it says Vikulan Shesh Shaktu.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: But over here, now we say Vikulin Sheshaktu.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: And it's obviously as we just spoke out, also referring to the Hershad of Khatan.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Hershad of Katan are not allowed to do ishkita.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: But if they did, Vikulan Sheshaktu, including the Hershad of Khatan, and others saw them chasting, then it's gonna be uh Kasher Shkita, Bidiavit.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: Zucht the Mishnah and Zakht Gemarin, Zakht Rava, Zoytse Maris, from the fact that it said Shemma Yikalkalu future tense, and not Shemakilkalu, even though we're talking about Bidi Ever as the Mishnah just said Ushkita Sinkira.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: Zhaysa Maris in Myson and Hulin Akhathila.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: Even though I told you that there's a way that it's gonna be Kasher, which is Akhirin Rayna San, the Kulan Shashahtu, but Akirin Rainasan, referring also back to the Khershad of Khatan, as long as someone else sees it's gonna be okay.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's uh then the khathila.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're allowed to do that lachhilah to give it to a Khershad of Khatan as long as someone else sees it.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: So from the fact that the Mishnah said, no, this is only Shema Yitkalkaloo, maybe they will make a mistake.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: So even that way I gave, sorry being worried, but even that way I gave you out to have other people watching them, that's only the event.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: That in my sun khulkilah we're not gonna give them the khathila even if you have others watching them, like the Mishnah told you you're able to do.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because again, Shema Yi Kalkalu S Shitas and Sensakemara, the Kulin Sheshah to Bachimra, and a son shitas and shaira.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: The Mishna continued, and all these people, which we just explained, includes the Khair Shait of Bakata, any apostle that wasn't supposed to do the Shita, and you saw, but other people saw that it was done properly, it's going to be Kshaira.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: Sens the Gemara Man Tana do Lebanon Kavana Lishma.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: The Tana the Mishnah clearly is of the opinion that you don't need a kavana uh lishhitah.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need uh to have uh the reg.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need to have any kavana when you're doing shita.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have to be lishmal, it doesn't have to be biklala kavana.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Because you have a chair shait of katan.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: The definition of her shait of katan is they don't have das.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: And therefore there's no kavana.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: There's nishkay and kavana over there, and still we see the shit is gonna be good as long as you saw it was good.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: So who is this tana?
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: Amarava Rimnasan, it must be Rim Nasi.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: Rimnasan, where do we find Rimnasan?
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: The Tani Oishya Zaira the Min Khraya.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: If someone threw a knife, he's throwing knives and he did it in Mamish to get it into a wall.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: He his cavara was not for Shita, he tried to throw the knife into the Into the wall, he went axe throwing whatever it was.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: The Halch of the Shachta Kedarka, and on its way, boom, it shafted an animal kidarka properly, the most beautiful Shita.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: So Rim Nasan Max Shiva Kham and place him.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: So obviously he did not have any kavana for that.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: That wasn't his point.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: It happened to have sliced the animal in the proper way on its way to the wall.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: But uh is that okay?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: Rimnasan says, Yeah.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: Because clearly we see Rim Nasan holds you don't need kavana.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Khacham say no, because you need a kavana for this.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara Hutani Leva Uwamila.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: Rubba brought this down.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: Ravel was the one that found this Brayso.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: And he also said over the aloha that Allah Grimnas.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Now Allah is like Rim Nasan, you don't need a kavana for Shita.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemarachumavi, technical problem.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: You need Mailikumavi.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: You need the back and forth motion.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Over here, you only have one way.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: Boom, it went forward into the wall and uh and did one way through the animal.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have the back and forth motion.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara Stamamitzias.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you Shehochou Bokidar Kiddarka.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: No, this guy was actually very skilled.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: It did some type of boomerang.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: It went back, it went forth.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: Rashi says it bounced off the wall.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: And therefore, it wasn't a problem.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: And you got everything you needed out of the shita according to Ramnasan that says you don't need kavana, that's gonna be guns fine, and it's gonna be a good shita.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: So who is the tana?
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: It says our Gemara Mantana.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: Who is the Tana of our Mishnah that says that a shita of a khair shaitavikatan is okay as long as you saw it was okay, it must be Ramnasan, because even though they don't have das, it's not a problem, Ramnasan.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you don't need Kavana for Shita.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: And if we start the next sugiya, then it's gonna go like all the way to the Mishnah.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: We can either do that now or tomorrow.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: What's the vote?