Latest / HEAVY Music Interviews / Controlling Your Own Destiny With MONIQUE PYM From RELIQA
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- 0:00Stick to the center of the Dane light climate. Making tree fighters to your
- 0:05puri can pretty picture. Just to stir them up and close your mind.
- 0:10You always to sit and hate when you got them on your side. So
- 0:23my name is Monique Pim. I'm the front woman of a band called Relica.
- 0:28Yeah. So we have an album coming out on May thirty first.
- 0:31It's called Secrets of the Future. Depending on if you're in the future or
- 0:35not when you're listening to this interview, it may already be out, it
- 0:40may not, but May thirty first is when it will be in your ears
- 0:43courtesy of Grayscale Records and Nuclear Blast. You well, that was a fantastic
- 0:49intro. Thanks for that. So May the thirty first is only about four
- 0:54three weeks away. They say, happy you on me beco'me terrified? Are
- 0:58you excited and nervous? Yeah, Cus, you couldn't give a shit,
- 1:02Like what sort of bulain's it going on? Oh man, it's all of
- 1:06the above. Really, I'm terrified, Like this is our for the longest
- 1:10record that we've ever released in and because given the landscape, like a lot
- 1:12of people listen to shorter form material these days, and we've tried to honor
- 1:19that through our singles, but it'll be really interesting to see who latches on
- 1:23to this full fifty two minute experience and experience is one of the words for
- 1:29it, because it is quite a diverse album. But I am I'm so
- 1:33excited, Like I think that this album, it feels like we're sitting on
- 1:36a precipice right now, and once we release this album, I think it's
- 1:38going to open up a whole lot of doors. So yeah, like,
- 1:42let's just see what happens. We're taking it one day at a time.
- 1:48Well, I've got to tell you how to listen to it before I did
- 1:49the questions after this interview, and I'll let it run through twice at fifty
- 1:53two minutes for one hundred and four minutes in my household because it was that
- 1:56bloody good. Oh cool, it's really very impressive. Glad you like it?
- 2:01In the modern age, mate, Like, how do you actually measure
- 2:05the barometer of success in an album? Like? Is it Spotify numbers?
- 2:08Is it comments? Is it likes? Like back in the old days,
- 2:12know someone ring and say that was fucking great? But nowadays, how do
- 2:15you measure it? These days? It's a really good question, and I
- 2:19don't think it's one that has a correct sixcinct answer. Everyone measures success in
- 2:23their own sort of unique way. I mean, there's there's even charting to
- 2:29consider these days, like when you when you have a record, and I'm
- 2:31very curious to see what happens and where we land in that sense, Uh,
- 2:38I think we can all like get so caught up in, like in
- 2:40the numbers of it. And of course those are so important, especially when
- 2:44you're a label band. We will definitely be considering that with a lot of
- 2:47We'll be taking a lot of stock of that, of course, But at
- 2:52the same time, like success of an album can also just mean that it's
- 2:58like to us, I think our album will be successful if we have opened
- 3:04our audience a lot, if it opens those doors like I'm talking about.
- 3:07So if we look back a year from May thirty first and notice that we
- 3:13have been playing amazing shows, We've been reaching the right people. We've had
- 3:17tons of people, you know, wanting to learn more about us and engage
- 3:23with our not only our content but our live shows and things like that.
- 3:25And we you can see a tangible difference between the release of an album and
- 3:30say the release of the next album. If we see growth in many different
- 3:36ways through our live shows, through our numbers, through you know, the
- 3:40kind of interactions that we have on a day to day basis, then we'll
- 3:44know that it was successful. I think it's I think you've got to measure
- 3:46that success in a couple of different ways to really know. I think you're
- 3:51actually being a little bit too modest there, mate, because all those things
- 3:53you've been talking about, you've already got it. Like you guys are the
- 3:55darlings of Australian music in the moment, Like it's it's going to be.
- 3:59It's to be hard to go further from there, but like say, from
- 4:01what I've heard, I think you can, Like it's it's it's gonna it's
- 4:04gonna knock a few people to fuck out. You're so right, I mean
- 4:09I and I really I really appreciate that, Like, yeah, you're absolutely
- 4:12right. Like these shows that we've been playing in the in the past twelve
- 4:15months have been nothing short of surreal, and I'm hoping that yeah, they
- 4:20I mean, it's not only it's not only bigger on the scale of how
- 4:24many people you're playing to, but yeah, like we really want to get
- 4:27out and even see a couple of new cities. Like I mean, for
- 4:30example, like the next thing that we want this album to take us global.
- 4:33So hopefully if we see the site, if we see the Northern Hemisphere
- 4:40next year, like we'll be on to a winner, you know. And
- 4:42and at like not cross like crossing my fingers, you know, like hoping
- 4:46that this happens, but like it looks like we've got all the systems in
- 4:50place to make it happen, which is really exciting right now. Matter of
- 4:56what we've been dancing around is from the start of the interview made but let's
- 5:00get into the meat and bones of it, like tell us about the album
- 5:01from a musical point of view and what you were going forward it. Well,
- 5:04it's it's something that honors how diverse and open minded we we are as
- 5:11people. I think the four of us we have so such different life experiences
- 5:15and different influences musical tastes, and that's something that we've always tried to hammer
- 5:20onto through our music and tried to sort of keep making records that we want
- 5:27to hear, ones that we want to listen to, and things that feel
- 5:31representative of us as people, not just as artists. But as people as
- 5:35well. So that's something that we've really remained true to on this album.
- 5:40And I mean, I'm only speaking from myself here, but I think that
- 5:46we've sort of captured the right formula for it now because we've we're not only
- 5:49like on our I don't know what I am ep, we sort of threw
- 5:55everything at the wall and we just went pretty crazy with it. But this
- 5:58album exercises a lot of straint and I think that that's really cool because it
- 6:01shows that I think it shows that we've matured, you know, as people
- 6:08and as artists, and it's also shown that, like, you know,
- 6:13we we know how to right now in a way that services the song and
- 6:16services the wider product, rather than zooming in on parts and kind of making
- 6:20each part perfect and things like that. And I yeah, Ultimately, I
- 6:26think the one word that captures this album is diversity or open mindedness. There
- 6:30are so many different sounds on there. Ultimately we call it progressive metalcore,
- 6:34but that progressive is the is the kicker. The progressive means that we've taken
- 6:39metalcore and we've sort of drawn in a whole lot of different influences, sounds
- 6:45and styles and things from other places, and so hopefully there should be something
- 6:49for everyone on there, you know, something for the pop van, something
- 6:53for the rap fan, hip hop fan like and then also of course staying
- 6:57true to our progressive metal core roots. Hopefully people still love us for that.
- 7:04Now you've released the singles Kill Star, Terminal, and Dying Light.
- 7:09So are they a good overall sonic representation of what you expect? I think
- 7:13so. I think there's a There was definitely a logical move behind those three
- 7:20being the singles, because yeah, they do hit three very different corners of
- 7:25the album. I saw, I think a YouTube comment this morning when I
- 7:28was taking a look at the like feedback to Dying Light, because it's only
- 7:31at the point of this this chat, it's only been out for like twenty
- 7:34four hours, so I was having a look and someone said something along the
- 7:40lines of like each three every like, all of these three singles have been
- 7:46like so different. Like yeah, it was talking about how each of them
- 7:49like hits different territory, And I think that's absolutely true. And I think
- 7:53that every song on the album from this point on, because there are twelve
- 7:57songs, is there's a lot of territory that we've covered has something in common
- 8:01with one of those three singles, you know, whether it's got that sort
- 8:05of high shine, modern like sort of like almost a stadium rock vibe that
- 8:11Terminal has, whether it's got that techy, sludgy heaviness that Killstar has,
- 8:18or whether it's got the attitude and the almost more like like dark and dirty,
- 8:24like sort of like unpolished vibe of dying lights. So all those three
- 8:28hit some different territory that I think each song on the album covers to some
- 8:33extent. Yeah. Now, the press release refers to Secrets to the Future
- 8:39as the band taking a daring and dexterous step into a brand new chapter.
- 8:43Would you agree with that statement? I think that that's Janine doing her working.
- 8:50Yeah, she's brilliant. She really is, isn't she? And I
- 8:54would agree, I think without sounding cocky, you know, I think she
- 8:58said it. You're just reading what was the question? Sorry, So did
- 9:05you agree with the statement that you are a daring step? I think so,
- 9:09Yeah, definitely, it's it like, I mean, we're all about
- 9:15taking risks here at Camp Relica. I think, uh, that's something we
- 9:20during the writing of the process of this album, we needed to build not
- 9:24only a lot of trust within ourselves, but like that trust is going to
- 9:28extend with our audience as well, particularly sort of releasing a song like Terminal
- 9:33as the debut from this campaign. No one had heard anything from Relica since
- 9:37I Don't Know What I Am, which was twenty twenty two, and then
- 9:39we sort of went I mean not underground. We played some amazing shows in
- 9:43that time, but we when it comes to releasing music, we went underground
- 9:46and we sort of tucked away for a little while. So coming out with
- 9:50Terminal was such an interesting thing because people had to sort of trust the process
- 9:56a little bit, like we placed a lot of faith in our audience to
- 10:01be like, yes, this is quite different, but like, don't worry,
- 10:05there's more where that came from, you know. Like that's how we
- 10:07dropped kill Star after that, as is almost a safety blanket to sort of
- 10:11be like, don't worry, We're still gonna happen, We're still taking We're
- 10:16still us, but it's the leap between Terminal and kill Star was sort of
- 10:22like a trust fall, I think between us and our audience. It's like
- 10:26that one. By the time we caught them and we realized that like they
- 10:31were at the end of that trust ball, they hopefully could sort of understand
- 10:35that we are now taking risks with this album, and we are going to
- 10:39take some going to like explore some new territory. Stay with us, you
- 10:45know, bear with us, and see what you think. Because once we
- 10:50release this album, it's no longer ours, it's theirs, it's yours.
- 10:52So that trust and that like that trust and that risk taking is a very
- 10:58important part of who we are and the album as a whole. I actually
- 11:03think, if anything, did shine increase confidence and maturity with the band,
- 11:07Like considering your last ep stated I don't know what I am, and on
- 11:11this album, The Secrets of the Future, like you've come a long way
- 11:13in twelve months. You're absolutely right, Like, and I'm so glad that
- 11:18you that you see that, because that, yeah, that was a huge
- 11:20part of our identity as well. And even like visually, you know,
- 11:24like through through like the esthetics of the album, like we've come a long
- 11:28way and we want to show people who we are and that we've matured a
- 11:31lot and that we do know what we are now. Like while they're while
- 11:35it's still without a label, because it's very difficult. I mean, the
- 11:39label we call it is progressive metalcore, but even even still, it doesn't
- 11:43completely capture who we are genre wise. So while we are still not knowing
- 11:48what we are in terms of label, we know what we are now in
- 11:54that that that diversity and that identity like that, that's sort of that that.
- 11:58Yeah, the diversity and the not being able to label is the label
- 12:03in a way. I know that it's a little bit better in that sense,
- 12:05but we really embraced that as a part of who we are. Yeah.
- 12:09Cool, Now, we're going to have to wind this up because somebody
- 12:13was late to this today. But I've got one question that I'm really really
- 12:16interested in the answery that I've got to ask you. Like, I read
- 12:18an interesting quote from the band where you said that your songwriting style shifted in
- 12:22twenty twenty three when you started writing this album, right, But was that
- 12:26a noticeable shift at the time. Did you sort of sit back and go,
- 12:28Wow, this is different or did it take into the end of the
- 12:31cycle be looking back on it and sort of sort of when the music's come
- 12:35out and that's when you realized it was different. It actually was a very
- 12:37tangible thing at the time because we were I was terrified by what we were
- 12:43doing because we used to write in kind of a very isolated way. You
- 12:46know, each one of us would have our own contribution and we'd kind of
- 12:50do it sort of away from each other and like just sort of eventually we'd
- 12:54have a song and it would be packaged up and that's cool. It does
- 12:56have our own, like our own little bits of identity along the way.
- 13:00It was written in a very remote sense. But this time with the captain
- 13:07by our dear friend and producer Chris Blancardo, we sort of took intentional strides
- 13:13into experimental territory for songwriting because it was really helpful to have him as an
- 13:18outsider perspective to be able to sort of say, here, here's what I
- 13:22think is working, here's what I think is not working. Can we try
- 13:24this? And we'd be like, okay, great, so yeah, Like
- 13:28I mean, we we wrote in a way that was way more for feel
- 13:35than for parts for this album, like more for like the emotional territory that
- 13:39you that you traverse when you're writing an album. And I mean, for
- 13:43example, like I had never written on pen and paper, but this time
- 13:48I did. I I sort of like set a challenge for myself to kind
- 13:52of scrawl away and to get something out that felt authentic for the moment,
- 13:58not perfect, you know, like because I I'm a bit of a perfectionist
- 14:01when it comes to my lyric writing. But so instead I really tried to
- 14:05exercise this this strategy of like imperfection. And funnily enough, some of those
- 14:11vocals that are in that little notebook are they ended up pretty much word for
- 14:16word on the album, which is I did not expect that. But it's
- 14:20kind of magical looking back on that and having the gift of hindsight and saying,
- 14:24yeah, that really did work out, this this experimental style. So
- 14:26we'll definitely be trying that again in the future. Awesome. Well, we're
- 14:31gonna have to wrap it up now, I Moneau. But it's been a
- 14:33pleasure talk with you. At least. I got some questions left over next
- 14:35time talking of it, of course, always a pleasure, Chris. Thank
- 14:37you. Secrets to the Future is out May thirty first, and like I
- 14:41say, I'm not pissing anyone's pocket here. It blew me away this morning.
- 14:45It was very very quality piece of work made. So congratulations, Thank
- 14:48you. So much. I really appreciate it. The center of the dialogue
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