Latest / Jeep Talk Show / Ep. 14 He Interviewed This NZ Jeep Owner One Week Before the 6.3 Quake!
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- 0:42Welcome to Jeep Cherokee XJtalk.com show.
- 0:46My name is Tony, also known
- 0:47as Mudderoy on XJtalk.com.
- 0:51This is a talk show about XJ vehicles,
- 0:55which is the two letter
- 0:56designator for the Jeep Cherokee.
- 0:58Produced for many years,
- 1:00almost 3 million units sold.
- 1:05We love them, we drive them, some of us
- 1:08take them off road. Most
- 1:09of us take them off road.
- 1:13Tonight we're going to be playing a
- 1:15pre-recorded interview with Wayne Lang,
- 1:19CanTab 27, from
- 1:22Christchurch, New Zealand.
- 1:25This interview was recorded just a week
- 1:28before the 6.3 earthquake that they had
- 1:32and devastated the Church Christ area.
- 1:36So, and we may actually have a call from
- 1:38Wayne after the interview just to catch
- 1:41up with him from last
- 1:42week's live interview.
- 1:45So we'll get started here right away.
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- 3:31Okay.
- 3:31So just looking here at the chat room,
- 3:33we've got Dalton 4x4.
- 3:35Dalton, we can always
- 3:36count on you to be here.
- 3:38I know that a couple of the guys are out
- 3:40doing a vehicle recovery tonight.
- 3:43We had a new member come up in the chat
- 3:47room on XJTalk and say,
- 3:49"Hey, need some help out
- 3:52night wheeling with a friend of mine?"
- 3:55They rolled the Jeep.
- 3:57So I'm not sure if it was an XJ or not.
- 4:01It certainly doesn't matter as far as the
- 4:03rolling of a said
- 4:04vehicle because we're all
- 4:08part of a community and we want to try to
- 4:09help out anybody that needs the help.
- 4:12Anyway, there wasn't
- 4:14anybody available last night.
- 4:15It was around 10.30, I guess, Central
- 4:16Time, when that information came in.
- 4:19And it seems everybody up in North
- 4:22Houston goes to bed early
- 4:23because they have to get
- 4:24up early to go to work.
- 4:25So I believe Renee and Matt were going to
- 4:29be going out there
- 4:30tonight or after work and
- 4:33trying to roll the vehicle back over.
- 4:35That new member is Big Jeep, Big Jeep, I
- 4:39want to say Big Jim, Big Jeep, Big Jeep.
- 4:41And he was a passenger in the vehicle.
- 4:44So hopefully we'll get some images,
- 4:48whether it be video or
- 4:49stills, up on the site.
- 4:52And of course the site is XJTalk.com in
- 4:56case you didn't know.
- 4:57So what I have here tonight is an
- 5:00interview that we were
- 5:01originally going to play last
- 5:04week, but the 6.3 devastating earthquake
- 5:10in Christchurch, New
- 5:11Zealand occurred just the
- 5:13day before the normal Wednesday show.
- 5:17So it was just by luck.
- 5:20So Wayne was actually able to call in via
- 5:23Skype from
- 5:25Christchurch and just give us a
- 5:27good idea of what was going on there and
- 5:29his thoughts and feelings
- 5:31that he was going through.
- 5:32And it was a very interesting interview
- 5:34for me anyway, being
- 5:35on the other half of it.
- 5:37Hopefully it was for you as
- 5:38well, but that was last week.
- 5:40And because of the events and because
- 5:43Wayne was able to call
- 5:44in live, we did not play
- 5:46that recorded interview.
- 5:48So that's what we're going to do tonight.
- 5:49The recorded interview was done one week
- 5:53before the 6.3 earthquake in New Zealand.
- 5:57And I believe there's even some
- 5:58discussion about the
- 6:00earthquake that happened back in
- 6:02September and also to the threat of new
- 6:08earthquakes coming up.
- 6:09And of course we had no idea what was
- 6:12going to be occurring
- 6:13just one short week away.
- 6:47So that's the end of the interview.
- 6:49Thanks for joining us Wayne.
- 6:52Thanks for joining us Wayne.
- 6:52It's a pleasure to be here Tony.
- 6:53Wayne is down in New Zealand and Wayne I
- 6:56guess you've been
- 6:57there all your life, right?
- 6:59Yep, born in Britain Christchurch, but I
- 7:01did spend 10 years living in Australia.
- 7:04How was that?
- 7:06Hot, very hot.
- 7:08So it's not as hot in New Zealand?
- 7:10No, Australia is one big desert.
- 7:12She's pretty close to what you guys get
- 7:14by reading your Texas
- 7:16weather, you're a bit of
- 7:18Interesting.
- 7:18I didn't realize that.
- 7:20So it depends what part Queensland.
- 7:22Right, certainly, well it's a long long
- 7:26ways away from us, which
- 7:27is the thing that I find
- 7:28most interesting about Jeep
- 7:30Cherokees and other countries.
- 7:31It's such a long way from
- 7:33where they were manufactured.
- 7:35Of course parts come from the market and a lot of the things that they were able to
- 7:36in other countries. It's such a long way from where they were manufactured. Of course, parts come in from all over the world, so
- 7:37it's hard to have
- 7:38anything these days that
- 7:39is built by one country, although I guess
- 7:43the Russians probably
- 7:44did it with varied results.
- 7:46So Wayne, what do you do in Christchurch?
- 7:49I'm a concrete place, though. I do
- 7:51decorative concrete,
- 7:52driveways, pettios and such.
- 7:54Oh, that'd be great to have here. I'd
- 7:56like to have some work
- 7:56done. I guess the travel
- 7:58expense would probably kill me.
- 8:01No job too big or
- 8:02small, Tony. Three quotes.
- 8:04So how long have you been doing that?
- 8:07Must have come up
- 8:08nine years again on that.
- 8:09My goodness. So something interesting
- 8:12happened, I guess last
- 8:13month or so, interesting to us
- 8:15because we don't really have a month off.
- 8:18You were off for a month, right?
- 8:20Yeah, they've just increased your
- 8:22holidays in New Zealand.
- 8:23You were entitled to three
- 8:26days of Christmas time plus your four
- 8:27stats, which is Christmas
- 8:28day, Boxing Day, New Year's
- 8:30Day, New Year's Eve or whatever it is.
- 8:32They've just increased into
- 8:33four weeks plus your stats.
- 8:35So is that just for your company or is
- 8:37that like a national thing?
- 8:38That's all over New Zealand.
- 8:41So how do you buy
- 8:41anything if everybody's off?
- 8:43No, it just works out. All the holidays,
- 8:46you can take them
- 8:47whenever. Most companies close
- 8:48down. Like the building industry, like
- 8:50Ironman, close down, but
- 8:52shops, bars and everything
- 8:53else keeps going. They just have the
- 8:54holidays different times of the year.
- 8:56I got you. That makes sense. It's simple,
- 8:59but I kind of had it in my mind. It was a
- 9:01national thing and I thought, man,
- 9:02everybody's off for a
- 9:03month. What do you do? You get to
- 9:05like stock up and eat beans.
- 9:08It's staggered. The holidays are
- 9:09staggered. Like when I
- 9:10was, before I was conquering,
- 9:11I was working in bars, running bars and
- 9:13I'd take my holidays in
- 9:15the middle of the year
- 9:15kind of thing, which is kind of cool
- 9:17because no one else is on holiday.
- 9:18Right. Well, that makes it nice to, I'm
- 9:20sure it makes it nicer
- 9:21to get out and do things
- 9:22during the day when
- 9:22everybody else is working.
- 9:24Yeah, it was good. I enjoyed that. You
- 9:26could get to do more stuff.
- 9:29This really isn't related to anything,
- 9:30but probably New
- 9:31Zealand. Do you have like fast
- 9:32food places like Jack in a
- 9:35Box and things like that?
- 9:36We got the Golden Arches, your pizzas,
- 9:39your Pizza Hut, Subway.
- 9:41What was it? We call it
- 9:43Burger Kings over in Australia. It's
- 9:45Hungry Jack's. We got
- 9:46all those ones, KFC. Then
- 9:48we got, yeah, corner fish and chip shops
- 9:50or burger bars where
- 9:51they'll make the burger
- 9:52you kind of want and grill, grill in
- 9:55front of you kind of
- 9:55thing. Just like a little size
- 9:57of average lands kind of a shop.
- 9:59See, that was the thing that disappointed
- 10:01me the most about visiting Mexico. I went
- 10:03over there with my wife. She's originally
- 10:04from Mexico and I went over there to, um,
- 10:07this was years ago too, before our second
- 10:10daughter was born and she just turned 16.
- 10:12So we were in Monterey. I was very
- 10:16disappointed because, um,
- 10:18they had a Chili's. They had
- 10:21a water burger. It was like, you know,
- 10:24going into Houston. So,
- 10:27you know, that's just the
- 10:28way things go. But you know what? I think
- 10:30that the American
- 10:31vision is, well, it's like
- 10:32people in other parts of the country.
- 10:34They speak with
- 10:34somebody in Texas. They want to
- 10:35know if you have an oil well and how many
- 10:38cows you have. So an interesting,
- 10:42I'm sorry, interestingly
- 10:43enough, I did have a cousin.
- 10:47It's funny. We also have, they're called
- 10:49dairies and it's like a,
- 10:50you call them convenience
- 10:51stores, but they're only little stores.
- 10:52They're usually old
- 10:53houses and the land just turned
- 10:54into a, into a, we shop and you got one
- 10:57of those in most
- 10:58corners. I've got two within
- 10:59five minutes where I am drive. You'll go
- 11:02into a sub herbs or town
- 11:03and there's usually one
- 11:04in every third corner and they're run by
- 11:06Indians or Chinese. It's
- 11:08quite, quite bizarre. It's
- 11:09always been like that. It's handy. It's
- 11:10just like your
- 11:10cigarettes to your ice creams.
- 11:11You just little household
- 11:13products are everywhere.
- 11:14I got you. So it's, it would be like our
- 11:17stop and go or a seven
- 11:1911 or I can't remember
- 11:20the one I never stop at them. I hate
- 11:22those little things. They're convenient.
- 11:24Yeah. I'll pay, we call them dairies
- 11:25here. I'll post a couple
- 11:26of pictures that are quite
- 11:27bizarre. Cause like I said, they're on
- 11:28the corner and just
- 11:29like old houses converted
- 11:30to little shops. Been, been
- 11:32like us as I can remember.
- 11:33That would be, yeah, that would be
- 11:35interesting cause it's not,
- 11:35that's not how we do it here.
- 11:37Of course the places that, the places
- 11:40that we have here are
- 11:41kind of like gas stations
- 11:42and convenience stores. And if you forget
- 11:45your, your can of
- 11:46green beans on Christmas
- 11:49or Thanksgiving, you can go buy a can of
- 11:52green beans at the
- 11:53convenience store for like eight
- 11:54bucks. And you know, they're normally
- 11:56like a buck or something.
- 11:57So our surveys are going like that now
- 11:59we're, cause we're, we're
- 12:00about 10, 20 years behind
- 12:02everyone. So our survey stations, you get
- 12:04your groceries in there. They're now kind
- 12:06of seeing us all beginning to change. So
- 12:09it's killed, it's killed most of the main
- 12:11town and shopping. Our CDV or whatever
- 12:13you call it, yeah. The
- 12:14central business district
- 12:15is all dying because of the big malls are
- 12:17going up. But like I
- 12:18said, we're, we're, we're
- 12:19far behind. We're slow to catch up and
- 12:21why people shop and whatnot.
- 12:23Well that's not necessarily a bad thing.
- 12:25I mean the malls are,
- 12:26are fine, but most men
- 12:28don't like going to the malls because
- 12:30it's, you know, you,
- 12:31it's an adventure. You can't
- 12:32just go get what you need and get back to
- 12:34the television or the
- 12:35computer or whatever
- 12:36it is you want to get back to. Of course,
- 12:38the women like, you know, cruising around
- 12:41and seeing everything and doing the
- 12:43window shopping. So yeah,
- 12:45you get caught for cruising
- 12:46around looking at the woman cruising
- 12:47around. Well, that's why
- 12:50they make dark sunglasses
- 12:51way. I told you we were way behind. It's,
- 12:56it's, it's like
- 12:57looking at the sun. You just
- 12:58don't look at it very long. If you look
- 13:00like it's too long, it's
- 13:01going to burn your eyes.
- 13:02Yeah, not wrong. Okay. So anyway, getting
- 13:07to the meat of it, the Jeep, you've got a
- 13:11Jeep Cherokee XJ. What year is it again?
- 13:15It's 95. And how did you
- 13:17come up, come, come across
- 13:18that? Um, actually, this would be nice
- 13:21for Jim. I had a Toyota
- 13:22Hilux double camp. That
- 13:24was slightly modern and I kept
- 13:27overheating. So the wife
- 13:29told me to get rid of it. She
- 13:30didn't like it. So I was actually looking
- 13:31at Land Rovers, their
- 13:33discoveries, the V8 ones.
- 13:35And I come across an ad for the Jeep
- 13:37Cherokee, went around and
- 13:38drove it. And I liked the
- 13:40way the window wife, you know, how it
- 13:42washes the whole screen.
- 13:44And I liked that. So I brought
- 13:45it. Yeah, it was insane. I didn't, I
- 13:47didn't know nothing
- 13:48about it. I didn't even know
- 13:49that it was a uni body that they didn't
- 13:50have chassis back
- 13:51then. So how many miles?
- 13:55Sorry, 160. I didn't want to be less. It
- 14:00was very tidy when I
- 14:01brought it and I paid just
- 14:03over three for it. I think it was three
- 14:05and a half. How long ago
- 14:06did you do it? It would
- 14:07be three and a bit years ago. So that's
- 14:10not a, that's not a bad
- 14:11price. I mean, even here,
- 14:13that would have been a really bad a
- 14:14price. If you could, when
- 14:17I first started posting,
- 14:18you can see some photos of it. It was
- 14:20actually quite a tidy one.
- 14:21It's not so tidy now, but
- 14:23okay. Well, you've used it quite a bit.
- 14:25Yes. It's, um, I brought
- 14:28it had all these clunky
- 14:29noises as they don't and whatnot, but
- 14:31cause of joining these
- 14:32forums, I just slowly weeded
- 14:34it out myself, ask questions, try things,
- 14:37fix things. It's
- 14:38great. That's what I like
- 14:39about them. Yeah. It's great knowing how
- 14:40the, how they're put
- 14:41together. And it's a big confidence
- 14:43builder when you know, uh, what to look
- 14:45for and what to expect.
- 14:47And it's, it can be very
- 14:48maddening at times because, you know,
- 14:50especially when you fix
- 14:50something and it, it fails again
- 14:52or something similar or in that area
- 14:54fails and you wonder when
- 14:56you're ever going to get
- 14:56to it or get done with it. It's like,
- 14:59well, I think I read
- 15:00Steve saying to one of the
- 15:02boys yesterday, Brian, I'm one of his
- 15:05saying to Brian about,
- 15:06don't worry about it. It's
- 15:07only a piece of metal. Go back to a kind
- 15:09of thing, which it is.
- 15:10We walk away and go back
- 15:10to it and have another go. Right. Well,
- 15:12we, I think we have a little bit
- 15:14different perspective
- 15:15because we can go down or you can go
- 15:17pretty much anywhere and
- 15:18find a one with a whole
- 15:20set of problems, uh, for $500. And of
- 15:23course that's one of
- 15:24the problems you guys have
- 15:25there. The owners of Jeep Cherokees in
- 15:28New Zealand is parts,
- 15:29getting parts. And actually,
- 15:31I guess getting the parts aren't so bad
- 15:33as the price that you
- 15:34have to pay for them.
- 15:35Yeah. Price pricing's yeah, that's the
- 15:37color. But in saying
- 15:38that not many people do the
- 15:39XJ's, that's another reason why I got
- 15:41one. Cause it's
- 15:42different. Everyone's like, they
- 15:43do the Japanese stuff over here, all the
- 15:45British stuff, the Land
- 15:46Rover's, the Nissens or the
- 15:48Toyota's, the surfs, the Hilux's whatnot.
- 15:51I wanted something different and a lot of
- 15:52people do Wranglers, but I just wanted to
- 15:54be a bit different. So I got the XJ.
- 15:56What was it? I can't remember if it was
- 15:58you that told me that
- 15:59the XJ is a, like a luxury
- 16:02vehicle.
- 16:03Yeah. When they first come out, they were
- 16:05worth a lot of money
- 16:06when mine probably retailed
- 16:09in 95 for near on $60,000.
- 16:11My God. So it's viewed as a luxury
- 16:14vehicle and anybody that
- 16:15makes modifications to it
- 16:16is viewed as being insane.
- 16:18Well, that's funny cause the Jeep Club, I
- 16:20was going to join.
- 16:22They've got a lot of older
- 16:23blokes here, even older than me beer that
- 16:25brought them brand new and I've rocked up
- 16:27and I've cut it and gutted it and dented
- 16:30it. And they kind of
- 16:31look down their noses at
- 16:32me. So I didn't really end up joining.
- 16:34Young whippersnappers.
- 16:36I reckon.
- 16:38Well, that's, that's true. That's what
- 16:40the Jeep is for. I
- 16:41mean the name Jeep, I mean
- 16:44it's a military vehicle. It's, it's, it's
- 16:46birth was military vehicle, World War II,
- 16:48and it's designed to go places. So you're
- 16:51doing exactly what it was designed to do.
- 16:54And I understand how people, if they
- 16:56don't want to do that,
- 16:57that's perfectly acceptable.
- 16:58But to me, you're having fun with it.
- 17:00You're enjoying yourself.
- 17:02That's what it's for. It's a four wheel
- 17:03drive. Mine actually
- 17:04coming from Japan too. It's
- 17:07imported from Japan. So left America,
- 17:10went to Japan. I don't
- 17:11know when they would have
- 17:12the right hand conversion, right hand
- 17:14drive conversion, but I
- 17:15was actually water blasting
- 17:16the motor the other day. One of the
- 17:17stickers, Japanese
- 17:18stickers come off and it's got the
- 17:20American writing, you know, watch your
- 17:21fingers for the belt or
- 17:23whatever it is morning.
- 17:24Right.
- 17:25So I'm not sure where they did their
- 17:26right hand drive
- 17:27conversion. I think Japan drives
- 17:29on the same side as us. So maybe over
- 17:32there or before I left
- 17:33the country, I'm not real
- 17:33sure.
- 17:34I wonder if they have a plant there. I
- 17:36was thinking they
- 17:36actually built them there.
- 17:38It might be assembled there maybe.
- 17:40I mean, I don't know. I'm just assuming I
- 17:41don't remember reading anything about it.
- 17:44I was just assuming that they maybe sort
- 17:46of licensed it to or
- 17:48Jeep licensed it to be built
- 17:50over there and they just they built it
- 17:53and then it was closer
- 17:54to ship from there to the
- 17:56very underrated vehicle over here.
- 17:58They get look down your nose as that, but
- 18:01more people have seen
- 18:02my one out and about.
- 18:03They, you know, they need to take notice
- 18:05and looking at them and
- 18:06what am I one of those?
- 18:07And there are a couple of
- 18:08nice ones being built up now.
- 18:09That's interesting. Well, there was that
- 18:11red one that the gentleman.
- 18:14I have updated photos of that. I'm just
- 18:16waiting for it to be
- 18:17emailed to me. I took a lot of
- 18:18photos the other day when we were
- 18:20flashing my transmission
- 18:21out. I'll do it. Actually,
- 18:22I'll do it right up on it as well.
- 18:24Oh, great. Yeah, that that was very
- 18:26interesting. I forget his I
- 18:27forget his name on XJ talk,
- 18:28but it was interesting. He sent me a
- 18:30message telling me he was
- 18:31going to create a Jeep look
- 18:33just like mine. I was very flattered. And
- 18:36my gosh, that was a
- 18:37beautiful Jeep. Once he
- 18:38got the lift and the
- 18:39tires and stuff on it.
- 18:40Okay. Yeah, we went out wheeling a few
- 18:43times, but I think I
- 18:44told you to sell it. You've
- 18:45started his business. And he couldn't
- 18:47sell it lifted looking
- 18:48like that. He had to break
- 18:49it down. He had to put a stock suspension
- 18:53back on and tires. He
- 18:55sold the then he sold
- 18:56the Jeep was a 2001 for 6000. He had 1300
- 19:00on the left and 1300
- 19:02for those rims and tires.
- 19:03Which was quite a good deal. Yeah. Can
- 19:06you just pause for a
- 19:07minute Tony? My landlord's
- 19:08going right ahead. So it sounds like he
- 19:10broke everything apart.
- 19:11He got more money for it.
- 19:13If he and then he would have selling it
- 19:15all together. Of course,
- 19:16the buyer made it. Maybe
- 19:18they didn't want all that crap on it.
- 19:19Yeah, it's not correct when it's lifted.
- 19:21It's rude not to lift
- 19:21the Jeep. Actually, I agree
- 19:23with you. But over in New Zealand, it may
- 19:26have been that people
- 19:27didn't want it being
- 19:28a luxury vehicle. They wanted it, you
- 19:30know, like I think I
- 19:31think the guy wanted it for
- 19:32towing. But I would have lifted it. You
- 19:33know, a guy paid sex. He
- 19:35could attend before that
- 19:36was a very good looking. J. Oh, it's
- 19:39beautiful. Like he might not want it.
- 19:41Yeah, it was beautiful.
- 19:42It really reminded me of mine. Whenever I
- 19:44first started making
- 19:44modifications to beautiful
- 19:46color that read that read photos. Yeah,
- 19:50sure did. But you guys
- 19:52like your green and that
- 19:53wouldn't mind a green Jeep. I mean, green
- 19:54is great for you
- 19:55know, off road and back in
- 19:56the woods and
- 19:58Hey, don't play this but but you will but
- 20:00I don't care what color
- 20:00they are long as they're
- 20:01like, green is just an in house joke.
- 20:04Yeah, I'm the same way. I
- 20:06mean, they're all of them
- 20:07have it's just the body lines and how
- 20:10they look, especially
- 20:11lifted. Yeah, they look cool.
- 20:14Yeah, whenever it's a stock thing, it
- 20:16looks a lot like a, you
- 20:17know, a station wagon, even
- 20:18though they're very capable of stock. But
- 20:21once you lift it, oh
- 20:22my gosh, it's just an
- 20:23amazing transformation.
- 20:25Lifted in a seat of muddies, they go
- 20:28well, because it's so
- 20:29light the powder ratio thing
- 20:30isn't it? Yes, they really they really
- 20:33get going fast. I mean,
- 20:34I routinely we go over
- 20:36well over 100 in mind. That's back in the
- 20:38stock configuration. I
- 20:40took the trip in this
- 20:41stock when my mate stock limited 94
- 20:43limits, I'd delete the
- 20:44ladda ladda ladda. And I forgot
- 20:46how nice they drive stock standard and
- 20:48the power. Beautiful.
- 20:49Yeah. Well, you never didn't
- 20:52put the gears in yours, did you? Yours
- 20:53took at the 355. Yes.
- 20:55Yes. It's on the list, but
- 20:56it's a, it's not really a daily driver.
- 21:00Right. But I just, it is
- 21:01on the list. I was just
- 21:02going to mention that when I put the 456
- 21:05gears in mind, it was
- 21:08like driving it when it was
- 21:09stock, except you're sitting high. I'm
- 21:12going to have to do it
- 21:12then. It was, it was an amazing
- 21:15thing that for the, the fun of driving
- 21:18the Jeep, that was the
- 21:20biggest thing that I've
- 21:22done to it. It was expensive, but it was
- 21:25the, it was the best
- 21:26thing because you notice it
- 21:27every time you drive it. One of us was
- 21:29pricing up some gears and
- 21:31how I put that post up with
- 21:32my friend going to Hawaii. You know,
- 21:35that's not a bad idea. The
- 21:37gears are a little heavy,
- 21:38but I don't think they'd be as heavy as
- 21:41wheel bearing
- 21:41assemblies. I got to put all your
- 21:44list on there. So hopefully people can
- 21:46price or put us links to
- 21:47some pricing and then me
- 21:49and him are going to nut out and think
- 21:50what would be a good
- 21:51stuff to bring over, just
- 21:51throwing our gear bear kind of thing. I
- 21:54have a lot of senses we
- 21:55always bring it back. And
- 21:56I'm sorry, the, the people listening that
- 21:58don't understand what
- 21:58we're talking about.
- 22:00It costs a lot of money to get parts in
- 22:02New Zealand and it's
- 22:03largely due to getting it
- 22:05shipped there and the parts, the parts
- 22:07themselves are expensive too, but the
- 22:09shipping is outrageous.
- 22:11So he's got, he's got a friend. Yeah.
- 22:13He's got a friend that's
- 22:14going to be going to Hawaii
- 22:17and in the United States we have a deal
- 22:20with the U S post office
- 22:21where they have this deal
- 22:23where if it's, if it fits in a box, it's
- 22:25a certain size box.
- 22:27It's 70 pounds or less.
- 22:29It ships for a fixed rate. So for
- 22:31something like eight bucks
- 22:32or something, we can ship
- 22:34something from Houston to Hawaii. And
- 22:38then, and then his
- 22:39friend, whenever his friend gets
- 22:40on the plane to come back home, he can
- 22:42check it as luggage. And
- 22:44now the, the, the whole
- 22:45shipping thing, the gosh, I guess gears
- 22:48would probably cost 50,
- 22:4960, a hundred bucks to,
- 22:51to get shipped to, to New Zealand. And
- 22:53now we're talking about
- 22:54eight bucks and the guys,
- 22:56you know, on the plane anyway. So, you
- 22:58know, that, that
- 22:59obviously is a cost, but it's a,
- 23:00it's not going to be a shipping cost.
- 23:03There's an example where our front hubs
- 23:06or bearings, like $250,
- 23:08$100 a side. I think it's
- 23:10a one tiny selling a hundred bucks a pair
- 23:12American. Right. And I'm
- 23:14sorry, how much was the shipping?
- 23:16There's just, our one's landed here for
- 23:18me to go to where I buy
- 23:20them from to buy new ones.
- 23:22There's two 50 to $300 a side. Okay. I
- 23:25see what you're saying. So you can
- 23:26probably figure that
- 23:28a lot of that is shipping and it just
- 23:29amazes me that, that, that
- 23:31they're gosh, you would think
- 23:34that somebody would snap up the idea of
- 23:37putting a bunch of this
- 23:37stuff on a boat. Well, again,
- 23:39there's not that many Jeep Cherokees over
- 23:41there. So I guess it's not
- 23:42worth doing it. And that would
- 23:43be another reason why the prices are
- 23:45high. That's a, someone should
- 23:46have been decent hubs for the
- 23:49ones you could read, grease and repack
- 23:50maybe. That was a little
- 23:52disappointing to me as well.
- 23:53I'm not used to that. A sealed
- 23:55non-serviceable bearing.
- 23:58Sam, cause I'm like, I'm on beyond to
- 24:01you. I know my left front one
- 24:03is playing up. That'll be my,
- 24:04you can see in three years since I've had
- 24:07it and the last set be
- 24:09like, if I've done 10,000
- 24:10K's on them, but it does play in a lot of
- 24:12rubbish. Right. Well, you,
- 24:14you, you get in the river a lot
- 24:16and that's gotta be washing out that
- 24:17grease. Exactly. So it's a
- 24:19four wheel drive. You pay
- 24:21for things. Yeah, that's true. It's a
- 24:22hobby. Same as the body
- 24:24works, but banged up. But hey,
- 24:26so, uh, what kind of things do you do
- 24:28over there? I mean, uh, I'm asking this
- 24:31because you've been on
- 24:32our site and there's a lot of, um, a lot
- 24:34of American things and
- 24:35American ideas that we,
- 24:37that we talk about there. What are the
- 24:39things that you do
- 24:40differently with your Jeep than,
- 24:42than we do over here or, or
- 24:43are there different things?
- 24:45Nothing really. It's more a learning
- 24:48curve for me personally, myself and
- 24:51getting ideas from yous,
- 24:52which can make my modifications cheaper.
- 24:56If you get what I mean, um,
- 24:58or silly or not stupid or silly
- 25:00ideas. The good example is the, uh, uh,
- 25:03pulp noodles. Yeah. And so
- 25:05I had no idea how to sort
- 25:06that out. And Renny, he said, yeah, two
- 25:09bucks. And it was, it did
- 25:10cost me two bucks and that was,
- 25:11that was brilliant. Probably one of the
- 25:13better things I've done
- 25:14cause it keeps all the
- 25:15crap and stuff out of the hinges and
- 25:17inside the cab. Right. Yeah. I was a
- 25:19little surprised by that
- 25:20too. It makes perfect sense, but, uh, he
- 25:23talked about it on the
- 25:24website and then one of our Houston
- 25:25area meeting greets, I said, show me the
- 25:28pool noodle. I was a
- 25:30little nervous at first, but he
- 25:32pointed towards the Jeep. Yeah, that's on
- 25:36his interview. Wasn't
- 25:37it? I remember that. Yes,
- 25:38it was a video interview. Yeah. And the
- 25:40thing, and the thing I
- 25:41found interesting was I believe
- 25:42he had a pool noodle on one side, but not
- 25:44on the other. So just the
- 25:47driver side. So he was pool
- 25:50noodle pacing himself. It says more,
- 25:54more, more that I get more
- 25:55ideas. A few, he's just like,
- 25:56we can't go to the junk yard as you call
- 25:58them. We call them car
- 25:59wreckers and make a so-called bus
- 26:02and pack up or get Springs or best pieces
- 26:05of Rex. We just, we just
- 26:06don't have the vehicles over here
- 26:08for that. Yeah. Yeah. I think you used
- 26:10your broncos or your F
- 26:11one fifties or your Mustang
- 26:13injectors, for example. We just don't
- 26:15have that. And if they did,
- 26:16cause that rear over here,
- 26:17that'd be so expensive. So what is the, I
- 26:21guess all the cars, there's no national,
- 26:24a local built or a New Zealand vehicle.
- 26:27We never built cars. We Australian cars,
- 26:30the Ford Falcon and the Holden, then it's
- 26:31your Japanese, your
- 26:33Toyota's, your Nissen's.
- 26:35And then you got your, your British, your
- 26:37Land Rover and whatnot.
- 26:39Or the Land Rover.
- 26:40A lot of European cars
- 26:41here now very cheap to BMWs,
- 26:42yeah. Pugeos and whatnot. They're getting
- 26:45very cheap over here now.
- 26:47Are the Land Rover's very prevalent?
- 26:49They're probably classed the same as the
- 26:51Jeep. They underrated,
- 26:53but people reckon they got
- 26:55electric problems. It's, it was got a
- 26:56personal, what you like.
- 26:58It's what you like. I've never
- 26:59owned one. So I can't back one of owned
- 27:02Toyota. I can bank that.
- 27:04Yeah. No, I mean, I was thinking maybe
- 27:05there was a lot of them there.
- 27:07I know they're usually the soccer mom
- 27:09cars, the big V8 ones. I
- 27:11think your gangsters drive
- 27:12around and then with the bling bling. Oh
- 27:14yeah. Well, they're,
- 27:15they're, they are luxury vehicles
- 27:16here because they cost so much. They're a
- 27:19nice vehicle, but I have
- 27:20seen there are a few modified
- 27:21over here, but same that coming down in
- 27:24price cause the cost of
- 27:25petrol. So the older ones were
- 27:2795, 90, even to the 10,000, you probably
- 27:30pick up for $10,000. New Zealand.
- 27:32Right. So you can really go
- 27:34four wheel drive in a luxury.
- 27:36Yeah. And I don't know, something kind of
- 27:38rubs me the wrong
- 27:38way. Of course, I've got
- 27:40power windows, heated mirrors. I've even
- 27:43got a block, a block
- 27:44heater on mine. I guess mine,
- 27:47mine is probably next to the fanciest one
- 27:49you could get. I think
- 27:50the, the one that I saw that
- 27:52had the only, the only one that I've ever
- 27:54seen that had more was a sun or moon roof
- 27:57built into it. And I didn't know that I
- 28:00didn't realize they came
- 28:01that way from the factory.
- 28:02I didn't actually realize that until I
- 28:04saw the movie castaway with Tom, Tom
- 28:07Hanks. He was driving
- 28:08a blue Jeep Cherokee, beautiful Jeep
- 28:11Cherokee. And I think it was
- 28:12about the same year as mine.
- 28:14And it had a, it had a sun or moon roof
- 28:18on it. And I thought, what
- 28:18the hell? I thought I had
- 28:20everything on mine. I was missing that.
- 28:23Get Jimbo to guest cat you want on.
- 28:26Yeah, I don't know. I don't, everybody
- 28:28says they leak. And of
- 28:30course that wouldn't be a
- 28:31problem with you, would it? It'd be a
- 28:33good way to get out and
- 28:34when it's drowned maybe.
- 28:36You take yours in the
- 28:38deep water a lot, don't you?
- 28:40Yeah. That's, that's really all we got
- 28:42here. We got rivers, we got, have got
- 28:44some trails and some
- 28:45real hard stuff on the west coast, but
- 28:47most of our runs in
- 28:48Canterbury were all level crossage.
- 28:50Involved Mardine rivers.
- 28:52Well, I personally like them.
- 28:53Oh, the freshwater rivers good too. Cause
- 28:55you just wash it on the way home.
- 28:57That's true.
- 28:57We, we, we haven't got rocks.
- 28:59Yeah. I'm not a big rock person. I don't
- 29:01like the idea of rolling my vehicle
- 29:03in the process of
- 29:04kind of climb over rocks.
- 29:06I'd be worried about busting the old
- 29:08running gear, I think.
- 29:10Maybe.
- 29:10The old, um, this is, um, yeah, this,
- 29:13this, all we got down well
- 29:14here with it. We, we got,
- 29:16we got some really hard stuff on the west
- 29:17coast, which is all Mardine,
- 29:20one chain of making your own trails and
- 29:21probably, um, push passion
- 29:23a bit to get around them.
- 29:24But we're pretty lucky to go wheeling,
- 29:25wheel out of wheel most places.
- 29:27You stay there, obviously not on private
- 29:29land and farms and stuff,
- 29:30unless you get permission and most of the
- 29:31farmers are quite good.
- 29:34We're really lucky.
- 29:35Oh, uh, actually speaking of, uh, the
- 29:37land there, you've been,
- 29:38uh, having quite a few,
- 29:39there was a, a 7.1 or so very close to
- 29:42Christ church back in, was that July?
- 29:45September, September the 4th, I know this
- 29:48one well, six minutes
- 29:49past four, I wake me up.
- 29:51Didn't want to wake me up.
- 29:53Yeah, I'm sure. And, and it was, uh, it
- 29:55was fortunately, nobody
- 29:57was, was killed in that,
- 29:58but it did a lot of damage as, as well as
- 30:00seven, uh, point anything
- 30:02should do, but the thing we've,
- 30:04I'm sorry.
- 30:06We, um, was just very lucky. It happened
- 30:08when it happened at that time of morning,
- 30:09Tony, I think looking at the damage in
- 30:11town and said, sub hoops.
- 30:13It was amazing.
- 30:13Seven.
- 30:14It was, it was really amazing, especially
- 30:16the, the, the links
- 30:17that you were sending us.
- 30:19I was very enthused that you were, you
- 30:21had internet access
- 30:22because I was afraid we weren't
- 30:23going to hear from you for some time.
- 30:25We're really lucky. They, the
- 30:27infrastructure or the bandage that up
- 30:29really, okay. There was some
- 30:30sub hoops. You lost it for weeks. The
- 30:31stuff we're only out for like three,
- 30:33five, six hours kind of
- 30:34thing. Yes. There's a sub just up the
- 30:37road where my mate, my boys
- 30:39mate lives. They've still got
- 30:40porta potties or your toilets outside.
- 30:43They've still got no sewer down there.
- 30:45And that was from the, the initial
- 30:47earthquake and not the, the aftershocks.
- 30:50We've had over 4,000 aftershocks. We've
- 30:53had, we had four years
- 30:54today. We've only had one today.
- 30:55I think that's the thing that shocked me
- 30:57the most. The, here in
- 30:58the 7.1 was a big deal,
- 31:00especially when I heard Christchurch
- 31:01because I was like, that's
- 31:02where Wayne lives. And, and,
- 31:04and then I got on the, the, the site and,
- 31:07and got ahold of a Rene
- 31:09Arginard and told him about it.
- 31:11And I don't know what he may have
- 31:12actually called you on the
- 31:13phone. I can't remember, but.
- 31:14I think he was, I think he was trying to
- 31:16email and stuff. Right.
- 31:19Because we, we, we, we, we in
- 31:20no power. And I was actually spent the
- 31:22first couple of three
- 31:23hours sitting in my work here,
- 31:25listening to my aim, the aim stationed on
- 31:28the radio, finding out
- 31:30where the earthquake was.
- 31:32First truck, we live real, real close to
- 31:34the coast and we were
- 31:35worried if it was out to sea,
- 31:36we're going to get washed out anyway. It
- 31:37was tsunami or something.
- 31:38It was our biggest fear.
- 31:40Yeah. That was, I found out it was, it
- 31:41was inland. So we were
- 31:42kind of happier after that.
- 31:44Right. So, uh, the, uh, and then the
- 31:47thing that surprised me the
- 31:48most was not, not only all of the
- 31:51aftershocks, but so I heard such little
- 31:54about the, the quake and the
- 31:57after, and almost nothing but
- 31:58aftershocks. So really the only reason
- 32:00why I knew about any of this
- 32:01stuff is because you were on
- 32:03XJ talk telling us how many quakes you
- 32:05are, how many aftershocks
- 32:06you had that day. And some of
- 32:07them were three, four, uh, did you, you
- 32:10had some, uh, uh, bigger
- 32:11than a 4.0, didn't you?
- 32:13We, we, we had some fives, good fives.
- 32:15We, the plus decent white
- 32:17rock we had was probably not
- 32:19the Friday gone. The one before was a
- 32:21four nine. That rock house pretty good.
- 32:23My goodness. And you're getting quite a
- 32:24bit of damage to your
- 32:25house as well, aren't you?
- 32:27Well, they've quoted 20,000 and that's
- 32:30just visual, but we, we
- 32:32begged to differ. We've had story,
- 32:34I think it was, um, Warren who's on XJ
- 32:36talk as well, another key
- 32:37week. He's got friends who are
- 32:38same boat. They were 16,000 visual damage
- 32:42and the quotes started coming in and, uh,
- 32:44people looking at the work today, the
- 32:46contractors and they've quoted over
- 32:4760,000. So I don't know,
- 32:50it's gone to flechers now who are doing
- 32:53all the rebuilds over
- 32:54$10,000. We'll just have to wait and
- 32:56see. And you really don't want to get
- 32:57started on rebuilding
- 32:59anything with all the aftershocks,
- 33:00I would assume. We are doing our first
- 33:03rip out replace of a
- 33:04driveway next week. He's quite
- 33:06damaged. They've given us the go ahead.
- 33:08So they think that maybe
- 33:09this is on the downside then.
- 33:12There's a guy predicting a big one next
- 33:14month, March the 19th away teens.
- 33:16But was that a reliable
- 33:18scientific kind of guy or?
- 33:20Um, my, my steps. I was just standing and
- 33:22sitting on the couch saying,
- 33:24he's just predicting the most, most of
- 33:26them so far. I
- 33:27actually put a link up, um,
- 33:29Steve 4.3. He's read that it's quite a
- 33:32good right. I read actually, if, if you
- 33:33don't know the link, um,
- 33:35MP mean, I'll MP yeah. It's a very good
- 33:37read. He's called the moon
- 33:38mean he's very good on tides and
- 33:39whatnot as well. He's, it's, it's really
- 33:41good reading as in it makes you wonder.
- 33:44Right. So, but it's a, uh, it's, it's a
- 33:47guy that has made
- 33:48predictions in the past and has,
- 33:49has probably come pretty close. We're all
- 33:51on the moon and the water
- 33:53and the pull of the gravity
- 33:54and ladle out, but I've my head actually,
- 33:55but yeah, yeah. Stretching, uh,
- 33:57stretching the crust
- 33:58and it moved. He's got everyone worried
- 34:00about the 19th, 18 to the
- 34:0219th. So next month, these people
- 34:03actually leave in Christchurch.
- 34:05Interesting. So March 19th,
- 34:0718th or 19th, it'll be, uh,
- 34:09if you don't hear it well, if you don't
- 34:11hear from it, you know, it
- 34:11was, well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
- 34:14mark that down so I can pay attention and
- 34:17make sure I think happy
- 34:19thoughts. And maybe I'll jump
- 34:20up and down over here and see if I can
- 34:22counteract it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 34:24That'd be real cool.
- 34:27Well, Wayne, we're, we're hitting about
- 34:28the 30 minute mark. So
- 34:29was there anything that you,
- 34:31that you wanted to cover that we haven't
- 34:32already? Yeah. I'd like to,
- 34:34um, no, I'd like to just say
- 34:36that one day we were planning on coming
- 34:37over there. Oh, that'd be
- 34:39great. And, um, we're just
- 34:41to pick somewhere. I know America's a
- 34:43really big place. We won't
- 34:44be able to catch up with most
- 34:45people, but we'd have to sort something
- 34:47out. And I like to go, um,
- 34:49we're dealing with hardcore beer,
- 34:50but I think he's a bit too hardcore for
- 34:52me now. And maybe do a
- 34:55bit, a few more with, um,
- 34:56big German. He's a wild man as I'm sure
- 35:01you've been able to ascertain from,
- 35:03he will. I gotta get, I gotta get some
- 35:05video of me doing some stuff. Yeah.
- 35:07That's a lot of fun. I feel love to see
- 35:10some videos. I do stuff like that.
- 35:13This is good, but they're cheap. I
- 35:16actually use the job, the
- 35:18Jeep, the winch in the garden. The
- 35:19other day pulling out stumps. It was
- 35:20great. Oh, the winch is
- 35:21a wonderful tool. I love,
- 35:23uh, I've pulled out a rose bush for the
- 35:25wife. I said, look, honey,
- 35:29it's well worth the $500.
- 35:30I spent on it just to pull up this one
- 35:32bush. Yeah. I pulled out, I
- 35:36posted pictures and stuff.
- 35:38They pulled quite a good nice stump out
- 35:39actually. I forgot what that's a,
- 35:44is that a Warren winch that
- 35:45you have or I can't remember.
- 35:46No, no. The Chinese one has the, um, team
- 35:50medical team mark or something like that.
- 35:51It's like a 12,000 pound winch. Yes. 12
- 35:54is a big one, but it's same
- 35:56kind. It was under that water
- 35:57long, long time and it still goes. So it
- 35:59must be sealed up pretty well. Yeah. Oh,
- 36:02they've approved a hell of a lot there,
- 36:03which is the Chinese
- 36:04ones. Yes. Well, the,
- 36:05the Smitty belts have really amazed me
- 36:08because I think Renee's
- 36:09been using his for well over a
- 36:10year now and, and, uh, it looks like hell
- 36:12and he puts that Jeep
- 36:13through hell and it's still going.
- 36:15And, uh, we have a vendor right now
- 36:17that's selling them for $279 shipped. I
- 36:20think actually you were
- 36:21asking about it because you were asking
- 36:22if the shipping was still
- 36:24good for, for New Zealand.
- 36:26Yeah. I knew what the answer was. I was
- 36:28going to ask hell of a price.
- 36:29You never know. Yeah.
- 36:31That's a good price. I'm sorry.
- 36:35This many American bottle. No, I believe
- 36:38it was a Chinese. I mean, the Smitty,
- 36:39the Smitty built name is, is an American
- 36:41name, but I believe that's
- 36:43a, uh, a Chinese winch with
- 36:45a Smitty built name on it. And I think,
- 36:47don't quote me on this, but
- 36:48I think that rough country,
- 36:50that the, the, the winch that they've
- 36:51recently started selling
- 36:53is the exact same winch.
- 36:54I think it's also, it also the same
- 36:57Chinese, the same Chinese winch.
- 36:59Sure. I'm asking, um, uh, I really need
- 37:01to post a decent picture of
- 37:02his winch and you probably
- 37:04find that there's not much difference in
- 37:05the shape or how they look to my one
- 37:08because being Chinese.
- 37:09Right. You know, if it works, the
- 37:11cheaper, the better. I mean,
- 37:13well, if it works once when you really
- 37:15need it, man, it's worth paying for.
- 37:17Yeah, exactly. And, and for $279, you
- 37:20know, if I had the funds,
- 37:21I would get one and put a,
- 37:24one of those little, um, those little
- 37:26trays that you can plug
- 37:27them into a two inch receiver
- 37:29and I'd keep it in the back of my Jeep.
- 37:31And I would put the wiring
- 37:32back there so that I could
- 37:33run it from the back of the Jeep because
- 37:34you don't always get stuck in the front.
- 37:37Oh, exactly right. You can do all that
- 37:38with the old blocks and tackle, but yeah,
- 37:40one on the back would be nice. Like
- 37:41Steve's got all you, he
- 37:43was modding one up and he,
- 37:44Oh, that's a beautiful, beautiful setup.
- 37:46It's a very slow course. You know,
- 37:48Steve does all that stuff that is just
- 37:51all the thinking and the
- 37:52drawing and the doing. And
- 37:53yeah, it's amazing. He does some good
- 37:56stuff. Some nice stuff.
- 37:56Especially there. Uh, mighty Mike. Yes,
- 37:59that's true. He gets to
- 38:00play with a lot of stuff.
- 38:01I just wish he wasn't in California. It'd
- 38:02be better to have him here in Texas.
- 38:04Well, I see. See, I just got to tell
- 38:06those young fellas, all this comes off
- 38:07age. They'll be like
- 38:08that one day. You know, I wish that was
- 38:10true. I think there's
- 38:11some people, some people that
- 38:13don't go to that level of detail and
- 38:15don't spend the time
- 38:16learning that much. I mean,
- 38:17you can see the level of detail that he
- 38:19goes into just looking at
- 38:20that aluminum rear bumper.
- 38:22That's nice piece of work. It really is
- 38:25very, very fancy
- 38:26functional, but very fancy.
- 38:29Well, Wayne, thank you very much. I
- 38:30really appreciate this.
- 38:31We've been trying to get you
- 38:32on here and schedule conflicts because of
- 38:35the huge time
- 38:36difference. I think there's like 19
- 38:38hour time difference between you and me.
- 38:40And we're 90 years in front.
- 38:42Yeah. And so it's great that
- 38:44we were able to get on here and actually
- 38:46get 30 minutes into a
- 38:47recorded interview. And I just
- 38:48want to tell you, thank you very much
- 38:50because you're one
- 38:51interesting fella and we really
- 38:53appreciate having you on the site. I
- 38:54mean, you're on the site
- 38:55quite a bit. And actually
- 38:57Wayne is a moderator on our site now
- 38:59recently became a moderator.
- 39:01So thank you for that as well.
- 39:02Wayne. So good. It's all good. I say you
- 39:05got a night shift man,
- 39:06but he wasn't there last
- 39:06night. I did post about that. I see. See,
- 39:09yes. Yep. Brian said he's
- 39:12actually been off on vacation
- 39:13and he's going back to life tonight. I
- 39:15told him that you were complaining.
- 39:17Well, did he put him for his vacation? I
- 39:20don't know. Well, there
- 39:22you go. I'd be docking him
- 39:23straight away. Tony. That's exactly
- 39:25right. That's all good. No, it's pleased
- 39:28to talk to you, Tony.
- 39:29Get out to all the rest of the boys out
- 39:31there. Thank you a lot,
- 39:32Wayne. Okay, Tony, I'll talk to
- 39:34you later. This segment sponsored by four
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- 39:50Well, I think that was a really good
- 39:53interview with Wayne.
- 39:54Wayne's always fun to talk to.
- 39:56He has a good outlook on life. And if you
- 40:02listened to the live
- 40:04interview that we did last week,
- 40:05it was a very apparent that he was down
- 40:08when the interview
- 40:09started. And as it progressed,
- 40:12started picking on Bear and Reaney and
- 40:14several people. So it's hard to keep
- 40:17Wayne in a bad mood.
- 40:20I'm sure it's just like any man with a
- 40:22Jeep. You can get him in
- 40:23a bad mood quickly, but
- 40:26he usually gets himself out of it. We're
- 40:31starting to get sweetness in the chat
- 40:33room. Dalton four by
- 40:34four says, "Yeah, the old part's got a
- 40:36big heart." So we did increase our
- 40:39viewership here in the
- 40:40chat room a bit. It's not big numbers,
- 40:43but we appreciate everybody
- 40:45that's taking out their time
- 40:47to join us on the show. I see Wayne, the
- 40:50cantab 27, the gentleman
- 40:52we were disinterviewing,
- 40:54is on. Dalton four by four. Lizard
- 40:57runner. Order looks
- 41:00like O R O D E R D E N E B.
- 41:04Order nib. Punisher 72. Weldman and a
- 41:08couple of guests. So I think we lost
- 41:11somebody along the way.
- 41:13Could be they just were here for the
- 41:16interview. But thank you
- 41:18guys for all showing up tonight.
- 41:20By the way, I think I misstated there was
- 41:23some chat room chatter
- 41:25about Reaney and Big Jim out
- 41:28doing the recovery, not Matt. And that
- 41:31probably makes more sense.
- 41:33Matt is helping nurses his
- 41:36wife back to health. She's been sick with
- 41:38the flu. And he probably
- 41:41needs to stay home anyway.
- 41:43So guys, did you have any questions for
- 41:46Wayne? I mean, you've been
- 41:47talking to him here in chat
- 41:48for a while. I'm not sure if Wayne if you
- 41:50wanted to call in and chat
- 41:52with us a bit. If you just
- 41:53in the chat room, that's cool, too. Just
- 41:57reading here the chat room,
- 41:58what's going on. Not much.
- 42:01Well, I was kind of thinking that maybe
- 42:03Jensen was going to
- 42:05call in tonight. And if
- 42:08Wayne wasn't available, but I don't think
- 42:11he is online. You know
- 42:13what, I think I'm going to try
- 42:14calling him. Let's see. Wayne, you
- 42:16weren't going to call in, were you? No
- 42:18telling how long it takes
- 42:19for the bit that I just said to get to
- 42:22New Zealand and then for
- 42:23Wayne to type in and answer.
- 42:25Well, I'm going to try to give Jensen a
- 42:26call. And we're calling
- 42:29now. Shows him online,
- 42:31doesn't show him active. It's ringing,
- 42:34not getting him. You know,
- 42:36it's a shame. I should have,
- 42:39I was doing some stuff with the system
- 42:40last week and Reaney Arganard sent me a
- 42:48friend's request and I think it was from
- 42:51his cell phone. And that
- 42:54would have been pretty good to
- 42:56get him on the cell phone. Well, I guess
- 42:59I don't have to get him on
- 43:00Skype. I wonder if we could,
- 43:03I wonder if it would be too bad if he
- 43:05was, if he's very busy.
- 43:07We could give him a call
- 43:09and see how the recovery went or how it's
- 43:12going. Let me try that. He
- 43:14can always tell me to go to
- 43:15hell. Let me just grab his number real
- 43:17quick and we'll give him a
- 43:18call. So I'm going to play
- 43:21some music and I'm going to see if I can
- 43:22get him on the phone.
- 44:25Hey man, what are you doing?
- 44:33Did you get the Jeep un-flipped?
- 44:38Can you talk to us on the air or do you
- 44:41need to pay attention to the driver?
- 44:46Yeah, I hear you.
- 44:53You want to do it?
- 44:56Okay, I'll put you on the line.
- 45:07Somebody's calling.
- 45:10Somebody entered the damn phone.
- 45:12It's an XJTalk Live phone call.
- 45:15Okay, well we've got Rainey on the line.
- 45:16As you can probably hear some of the
- 45:18background noise, he's actually driving
- 45:19down the road in his Jeep.
- 45:23So we're going to be very understanding
- 45:26because Rainey needs to pay attention to
- 45:28the driving more than
- 45:29he does talking to us.
- 45:30Hey Rainey, you're on.
- 45:32We just got through playing the interview
- 45:34with Wayne that we recorded
- 45:35back before the big quake.
- 45:38And I mentioned in the beginning of the
- 45:40show that you were out
- 45:41un-flipping a Jeep this evening.
- 45:45We got it over.
- 45:46He was going down a little trail that was
- 45:49right next to a real big runoff stream
- 45:53and dropped off in a little
- 45:56ravine that was like a washout.
- 45:58And it fell over and it
- 46:01went literally nose over tail.
- 46:05But yeah, we ended up coming up to it,
- 46:08looking at it, scratching our heads.
- 46:09First off, we tried to
- 46:10winch an ugly ravine on its lid.
- 46:13And that didn't work, so we just ran the
- 46:15winch cable over the bottom of the Jeep
- 46:17because the bottom was actually off where
- 46:19wheels were in the air.
- 46:20And hooked it to the back bumper and
- 46:22pulled it over, front end dug in the
- 46:24ground and it came up that way.
- 46:26So it worked.
- 46:28Wow. That sounds like
- 46:30that was very fortunate.
- 46:31It sounds like it was very
- 46:32fortunate that nobody was hurt.
- 46:34Yeah, it was really
- 46:35amazing that nobody was hurt.
- 46:37Yeah, when they said roll, I figured that
- 46:39it was an actual roll
- 46:41over, not a nose over tail.
- 46:46That would be a hell of a ride.
- 46:48Yeah, it was an end over end.
- 46:49And I was like you, I'd
- 46:50bought rolled over into a ditch.
- 46:52But no, it was a
- 46:54whole lot worse than that.
- 46:55And actually, there's a
- 46:57lot of pictures of it.
- 46:58I have none because I don't
- 46:59even have my camera with me.
- 47:01But I actually just had my phone.
- 47:02And of course, I couldn't see anything.
- 47:04And because we got out
- 47:06here just about dark.
- 47:07So there is some pictures and they will
- 47:10be up on XJTalk later on tonight.
- 47:13But yeah, we got pictures of it.
- 47:15And I actually, my winch did fine until
- 47:18the very end and I've got it hot.
- 47:20So I'm actually running down the road
- 47:22with my winch cable wrapped around my
- 47:23bumper because it got hot enough it
- 47:24actually went in thermal overload.
- 47:26Wow. So was your vehicle the only vehicle
- 47:30out there for the
- 47:31recovery or did Jim take his?
- 47:33No, actually it was me and Wes.
- 47:34The big CJ7 that's on the home page with
- 47:37the video, it was
- 47:38actually that CJ7 and me.
- 47:40But his Jeep, we never even needed it.
- 47:42I mean, we didn't even get it
- 47:43close to the flip over site.
- 47:46The only thing his Jeep got
- 47:47used for was at the very end.
- 47:48We kind of pushed it out by hand and then
- 47:50Wes tied it and actually pulled it out
- 47:53the rest of the way to the road.
- 47:54So this was, was this
- 47:55an XJ that rolled over?
- 47:57It was an XJ.
- 47:59And is it pretty bad?
- 48:00I mean, I think Big Jeep was saying that
- 48:02it looked like the hood or the roof was
- 48:05crushed and the doors were crushed down.
- 48:08Believe it or not, the only damage to it
- 48:10really, I mean besides, you know, dings
- 48:12and dents and stuff all over the Jeep,
- 48:16right about where your mirror would be is
- 48:18feed in about a foot.
- 48:20But other than that, we actually broke
- 48:23out one of the rear
- 48:23windows winching it out.
- 48:24But other than that, really not that bad.
- 48:26All four doors still open or
- 48:28actually the passenger door.
- 48:29No, they all four. All
- 48:30four doors still open.
- 48:31And it had a sunroof in it and the
- 48:33sunroof wasn't even broke.
- 48:36That's amazing.
- 48:38Oh, yeah, and the hatch is destroyed.
- 48:42You know, the big
- 48:42fiberglass hatch was just destroyed.
- 48:45Was that, was it destroyed in the
- 48:47original accident or the winching out?
- 48:50No, the original accident.
- 48:52Well, the only damage we did winching out
- 48:54was busted out one of the rear windows.
- 48:56You know, it was like,
- 48:57oh, man, what do you do?
- 48:59And the only reason it got busted out is
- 49:01it was against the, it was
- 49:02actually against the trees,
- 49:03I mean against the
- 49:04bankment of the ravine.
- 49:07And as it was coming out, it pushed into
- 49:09it and just went, pshh.
- 49:10But that's really the only damage that we
- 49:12did to the Jeep coming out.
- 49:14So which was, you know,
- 49:15pretty amazing, I guess.
- 49:17Well, boys and girls, let this be a
- 49:18lesson to you that
- 49:19whenever you go out wheeling,
- 49:21you need to be wheeling with a buddy.
- 49:22And I don't mean the buddy sitting next
- 49:24to you in the same Jeep,
- 49:25because these guys were out probably 9 or
- 49:2710 o'clock last night in the Jeep by
- 49:30themselves when this happened.
- 49:32You never know when
- 49:32this is going to occur.
- 49:34Were there recovery points
- 49:35on this, on the Cherokee?
- 49:37Yes, there were actually, the front
- 49:38bumper was a good recovery point,
- 49:40and the back had a hitch on it, so we
- 49:43actually just used the hitch with a tree
- 49:46saver, is what we actually did.
- 49:48And of course, now we did have to tie my
- 49:51Jeep to a tree because it would have
- 49:53sucked me into the ravine.
- 49:54But other than that,
- 49:56it came out pretty easy.
- 49:57Great. Well, I hope you do a write-up on
- 49:59that because there's not a lot of us that
- 50:01have done recoveries.
- 50:02I know I haven't while I've done one
- 50:04recovery, but that was just somebody
- 50:07stuck in a mud hole.
- 50:08This was a major deal, you can tell.
- 50:11Yeah, this is actually, I've been
- 50:12wheeling for a very, very long time.
- 50:15And this is the very first
- 50:16rollover I've had to go pull out.
- 50:18So this was a new one on me, too.
- 50:20So did you get to meet
- 50:21our new member, Big Jeep?
- 50:24Yeah, in fact, he's in the Jeep with us
- 50:25right now. We're actually
- 50:26bringing him back to his house.
- 50:28Was the Cherokee, the rolled Cherokee,
- 50:32what year was that, and was it drivable?
- 50:35It's a 90, it probably would have been
- 50:37drivable, but it sat overnight with all
- 50:40the oil leaking into the motor.
- 50:43So we didn't even try to start it.
- 50:46So is it sitting out there,
- 50:47or is it being trailer back?
- 50:50They're going to actually call AAA.
- 50:53Oh, okay. So did you just pull it out to
- 50:55the road, or is it just where it is?
- 50:59Yeah, it actually pulled it up to the
- 51:01main road and just left
- 51:02it on the side of the road.
- 51:04That way they can come get it with a
- 51:05wrecker without having any issues.
- 51:07Wow. Well, and that's the other thing, if
- 51:09you want help in North Houston, or Spring
- 51:11or Conroad, you need to do it before 9pm.
- 51:14Otherwise, everybody's in bed.
- 51:16Yeah, pretty much, but this is one of
- 51:18these things where generally it wouldn't
- 51:21have been a big deal like last night, but
- 51:24I didn't hear my phone.
- 51:25So what do you do?
- 51:27Well, you guys get up early. I know Matt
- 51:28gets up early to go to work. You get up
- 51:30early to go to work.
- 51:31I have no excuse for Bear. I'm sorry, I
- 51:34have no excuse for Big Jim. Sorry, Bear.
- 51:36Yeah, Big Jim gets up
- 51:38early, but he's on later.
- 51:39Yeah, he was on last night. He said that
- 51:42I think he was sitting there with the guy
- 51:43in chat, that he had two bald tires and a
- 51:45raging case of herpes.
- 51:47We're going north, but yeah, okay.
- 51:49Hold on, just a sec, guys. I'm trying to
- 51:51figure out how to get
- 51:52out of this neighborhood.
- 51:52Okay.
- 51:54Uh-huh.
- 51:56They'll bring you back out to the main.
- 51:57It's the same thing they can do.
- 51:58Live radio, folks.
- 52:01Okay, appreciate it.
- 52:02All right.
- 52:03All right. Okay, I'm back on now.
- 52:06Well, what's your opinion of the Royal
- 52:08Jeep? Is it salvageable?
- 52:10You know, I would cut the top off and put
- 52:13a cage in it and wheel it.
- 52:15It actually wasn't a bad looking Royal
- 52:16Cherokee. I would imagine
- 52:18before the flip it wasn't that bad.
- 52:20And to be real honest with you, I believe
- 52:23that somebody like Jensen could probably
- 52:26put a top on it because the back part of
- 52:28the top wasn't crushed down that bad.
- 52:31So I mean, more than likely somebody
- 52:33could actually, with a little bit of a
- 52:35body work experience, probably have this
- 52:37Jeep back up and operational.
- 52:39Well, I know they skin Jeeps pretty easy.
- 52:41And I bet you, although I don't know, I
- 52:44probably have to think
- 52:45about it for five minutes,
- 52:46but I bet you could actually cut a top
- 52:48off another Cherokee
- 52:50and do it, fix it quicker.
- 52:53I think so.
- 52:53But like you say, you know, you can, was
- 52:56it a daily driver or was it a off road,
- 52:59primarily off road vehicle?
- 53:01Was that a daily
- 53:02driver, Jim? Do you know?
- 53:04No.
- 53:04No, it was primarily off road.
- 53:06Well, time to scrap the roof and put a
- 53:09roll bar in it then.
- 53:10Oh, yeah.
- 53:12All right, man. I appreciate you taking
- 53:15the call right here in the middle of all
- 53:16the stuff that you're doing.
- 53:17It's a great story, breaking story that's
- 53:20going on. And I look
- 53:22forward to seeing those pictures.
- 53:23Yeah, so don't hide. And we actually got
- 53:26pictures of it the whole way around.
- 53:27I mean, as it was coming out, they were
- 53:29taking pictures. So we should have some
- 53:31pretty good pictures of it.
- 53:32And it was a little bit, you know, a
- 53:34little bit different. Like I said, this
- 53:35is my first real rollover recovery.
- 53:38So I'm interested to see
- 53:40how the pictures turned out.
- 53:42Also, too, did we get a new XJ talk
- 53:44member out of this rollover recovery?
- 53:48The guy knows about XJ talk. He said he
- 53:50was going to sign up and put some
- 53:51pictures on. So we'll see.
- 53:53Excellent. It's all been worth it.
- 53:57Yep.
- 53:58All right, man. Have a very good night
- 53:59and a safe trip home.
- 54:01All right. We'll talk to you all later.
- 54:02All right. Bye-bye.
- 54:03Bye-bye.
- 54:05Here we go, guys. And so that was, I
- 54:08know, I was personally curious about what
- 54:11had gone on with that rollover recovery.
- 54:14And we just happened to get rainy at the
- 54:16right time to where he
- 54:19could actually talk about it.
- 54:20They were apparently just finished, had
- 54:23just finished up and were driving back
- 54:25to, I guess that was a big jeep, big jeep
- 54:29that was being let out at his house.
- 54:32So, man, I cannot stress how
- 54:35generous that is of raining.
- 54:37Of course, he's just that way to go out
- 54:40there on a Wednesday
- 54:41night, miss the show.
- 54:43I mean, you know, that's small, right?
- 54:47But go out there on a Wednesday night and
- 54:50help out a fellow jeeper.
- 54:51And that's the big thing that really
- 54:54impresses me about you
- 54:55guys is the community.
- 54:58I know that we can fight and squabble and
- 55:00raise hell and maybe drink too much.
- 55:02And that's part of the reason all the
- 55:04rest of that happens.
- 55:05But when people need help, there's
- 55:08somebody with a jeep willing to go out of
- 55:11their way to lend you a hand.
- 55:13So pretty cool stuff. It makes me very
- 55:16proud to be a small part of bringing you
- 55:20guys together with XJTalk.com.
- 55:23So before we leave, I'd like to play our
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- 56:47Thanks. Have a good day.
- 56:48I just wanted to say XJTalk is the best
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- 56:53And if you think you know a better
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- 56:57way, this is BigDoom350. Bye.
- 57:01And guys, that's another show. In the
- 57:03can. Not Porta Potty.
- 57:07I want to thank Wayne very much for not
- 57:10only being the interviewee, but also too
- 57:13for showing up on chat tonight.
- 57:15It's always good to see that you have
- 57:20electricity and internet and, you know,
- 57:24just so we can know that
- 57:25you're there and doing okay.
- 57:27I know it's probably getting pretty old,
- 57:29all this shaking that you're having to go
- 57:30through, but stay with it, man.
- 57:33It'll get back to where it used to be.
- 57:35Stable as a rock. No pun intended.
- 57:40We do have a new contest on XJTalk.com.
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- 58:27Really easy. We'd
- 58:28like to see you on there.
- 58:30Thanks, guys, and thank
- 58:32you for another great show.
- 58:35See you on the side.
- 59:30[Music]
- 59:32Hey, sweetness.