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Big Provider Energy · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. Hi, guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to curse this episode because I am so
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  Speaker 1: passionate about it. WHOA, really, you're that fired up? You
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  Speaker 1: started this well, you started this podcast not sounding fired up.
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  Speaker 1: It sounded like very like hey, guys, like very like
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  Speaker 1: you're about to walk us through like a meditation. I
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  Speaker 1: like that you're fired up. I'm excited that you're fired up, Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get going here, how's the week? Catch us
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  Speaker 1: up on anything cool that happened to you this week? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're so sweet. Um. I had gone to Vegas this week.
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  Speaker 1: Um are our agent Paul. He had a little retreat there,
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  Speaker 1: so it was cool. I got to hang out with him.
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor fam arian Lauren, and we bonded over like baby
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  Speaker 1: life and where we live and stuff like that because
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  Speaker 1: we both live with like the you know, the husband's side.
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  Speaker 1: We live in the state of the husband's side. And
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  Speaker 1: then we I talked to Hannah Anne for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: I got to meet Hannah and in person, and she's
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  Speaker 1: so sweet, and we talked about her boyfriend and how
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  Speaker 1: they're planning on doing a move soon and then let's
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  Speaker 1: see who it was the Crystal. I talked to Crystal
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  Speaker 1: with her new fiance Miles, and I talked about how
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  Speaker 1: they got engaged and all that, and that's a good story.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna have to have Crystal and soon't talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: They are so cute together and who am I missing it?
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  Speaker 1: I saw the twins for the first time in a
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  Speaker 1: long time, both being married ladies. They're both in Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: But what's cool is that Emily and Haley are currently
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  Speaker 1: living together. So Haley lives with Emily and Will because
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  Speaker 1: her husband is in Sweden nine months out of the year,
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  Speaker 1: so there's certain months out of the year she lives
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  Speaker 1: with Emily, Emily and Will. Why isn't did she mention
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  Speaker 1: why she's not make in the move to Sweden? Um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't, actually, you know what, you'd think that would
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  Speaker 1: be an obvious question to be like, Haylee, wyren't you
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  Speaker 1: always with your husband over there? Maybe it has to
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  Speaker 1: do with a visa thing, but like also she's really
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  Speaker 1: you know, lonely during the season when he's away and
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  Speaker 1: she hasn't nobody there and she's like in a home
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  Speaker 1: by herself and all that, so I know she's she's
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  Speaker 1: happier when she gets me with her sister and not
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  Speaker 1: in a lonely house. That makes sense that I bet.
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  Speaker 1: Hannah Ann mentioned how we met for the first time
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  Speaker 1: at Maddie's. Oh she did. I was actually kidding. Oh no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: she definitely did. She was like I met Ben for
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  Speaker 1: the first time last week. It was a great, really
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  Speaker 1: sweet human, very very sweet human. Um and a lot
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  Speaker 1: smaller than I expect. She's like just I'm notined her
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  Speaker 1: to be tiny. Yeah, she's like Jess tall, which is
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  Speaker 1: like a very tiny, tiny person. Um. But well, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like a great week. I'm assuming it really
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  Speaker 1: went really well. Yes, it was great. It was so
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  Speaker 1: it was so lovely. Well, there's something about bachelor family.
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  Speaker 1: I say this every time. It's just like you just
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  Speaker 1: click immediately. You can go so long without seeing each
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  Speaker 1: other and there's always some common denominator. I'm glad you
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  Speaker 1: feel that way. Sometimes I just feel out of place. Really, no, Ben,
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  Speaker 1: you just are just too self conscious. Then, yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 1: you just feel like, like you know Taylor Swift song
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  Speaker 1: ants a hero. No, I don't you have to Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you have to go listen to Anti Hero. Okay, that
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  Speaker 1: your song. There is a line, can I read it
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  Speaker 1: to you? I know that like our producers are gonna
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  Speaker 1: be like, guys, there we have we have to hurry up.
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  Speaker 1: But I actually need you to read this one lyric
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  Speaker 1: to you because you're gonna relate so hard. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's your song, like she says in it, um, I
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  Speaker 1: have a fear of getting older but not wiser. And
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  Speaker 1: then this is the this is this is the verse
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  Speaker 1: that I really feel like you we'll resonnate with. And
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  Speaker 1: I hope I'm not being dramatic, but it says sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I feel like everybody is a sexy baby. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be referring to, like, you know, hot TikTokers
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  Speaker 1: that are like a lot younger than her. Um, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm a monster on the hill, too big to hang out,
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  Speaker 1: slowly lurching towards your favorite city, pierced through the heart
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  Speaker 1: but never killed. You know, Taylor, I asked Justin, and
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  Speaker 1: I said, what's I was like, is Taylor Swift? Like
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  Speaker 1: what makes her so popular? And Jessica said her lyrics
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  Speaker 1: just relate with a certain group of people. She's good. Huh, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so pumped. You had a good time. It is
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  Speaker 1: always fun seeing people from Bachelor Nation, and it's fun
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  Speaker 1: being around them and hearing what they're up to and
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  Speaker 1: hearing their stories. But you know, I haven't been around
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  Speaker 1: too many of them recently, and so it's fun to
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  Speaker 1: kind of live vicariously through you when you get to
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  Speaker 1: see them. And uh, we got to talk about a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people from Bachelor Nation right now, because Paradise
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  Speaker 1: is still going. It is still going, and it is going,
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  Speaker 1: and it is going and going and it is going,
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  Speaker 1: and it is going to the point where there are
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  Speaker 1: still new arrivals next week. This is strange. It's weird. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: that's a little weird. I think it's kind of bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, guys, stop, stop that stop. Can
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  Speaker 1: we just get it down to a select few. Well, actually,
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  Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about today, a lot
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  Speaker 1: to break down. A very emotional episode. I will say
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  Speaker 1: it was less dramatic and more emotional for many, and
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  Speaker 1: the responses on social media, Uh, we're very emotionally driven. Um,
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  Speaker 1: some very strong opinions and thoughts coming out of this
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  Speaker 1: episode for a couple of different reasons. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: share our opinions well, because that's what we get paid
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  Speaker 1: to do. And we're to talk about the episode right
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  Speaker 1: here coming up after this break, All right, Ashley, let's
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  Speaker 1: kick it off. Bachelor in Paradise is yes back. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It is a vacation of sorts because there's only one
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  Speaker 1: episode this week, which I thoroughly enjoyed that fulfilled my
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  Speaker 1: heart so deeply because I got to give my all
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  Speaker 1: to the one episode exactly. And that's a good point.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's clarify this. It's not that I don't enjoy
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  Speaker 1: watching Paradise. In fact, out of all the shows that
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor does, Paradise is enjoyable. For me. I'm seventy
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  Speaker 1: of the time really really like watching it. Uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: just when it's so much, it gets exhausting and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm not able to do my job well,
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  Speaker 1: which is to you know, analyze and reflect and think
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  Speaker 1: about certain moments because it's so long. Well, when it's
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  Speaker 1: four hours, I mean, I know that's what the commercials included.
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  Speaker 1: So for us, it's not exactly four hours, but that
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  Speaker 1: is a big time dedication. So sometimes you're doing stuff
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  Speaker 1: on the side and sometimes you're you're skipping forward a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. This I was able to zone in and
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  Speaker 1: I never looked on my phone. It was really really nice.
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  Speaker 1: But it's also because the content of this episode was strong,
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  Speaker 1: and it was basically just the love triangle between Justin,
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  Speaker 1: Rodney and Eliza, and I was enthralled in every moment.
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  Speaker 1: It was so emotional. And here's my big take away.
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  Speaker 1: Should I just start off with a big takeaway? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think so. There are other moments actually that I
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  Speaker 1: would like to speak about. Really, Okay, fine, I think
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  Speaker 1: the Eliza and Rodney moment um with Justin obviously is
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  Speaker 1: the super Bowl to this episode. It is the climax. However,
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  Speaker 1: So you wanna talk about the other parts first and
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  Speaker 1: then we'll go into Yeah, I think that's the best
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  Speaker 1: way to do this because it's gonna take up so
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  Speaker 1: much time to break down the other segment. I really
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  Speaker 1: want to start talking to you about Kate. Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: kind of love Kate, now you love Yeah. I do
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  Speaker 1: not want to be her friend. I definitely do not
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  Speaker 1: want to date her, but I love watching her. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's fair, Okay, that's a good. Yeah, I would say
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  Speaker 1: my my takeaway here that I have written down is
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  Speaker 1: I would never set her up with somebody that I
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  Speaker 1: am friends with. Yeah. Now, I think Kate is beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: I think when she first came to the beach, she
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  Speaker 1: is very inquisitive and you see her supporting people on
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  Speaker 1: the beach really well. She gives good advice, but she
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  Speaker 1: is very much in the advice kind of realm of
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  Speaker 1: go for what you want, do what you need, put
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  Speaker 1: yourself out there, put yourself first, put yourself first, and
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  Speaker 1: that where That's where it brings up my conversation with Logan.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the Logan situation Kate was was obviously
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  Speaker 1: not kind to Logan, but I was very thrown off
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  Speaker 1: with what she was upset with Logan about. It seems
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  Speaker 1: like this whole episode was focused on Kate wanting to
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  Speaker 1: marry somebody with money. Typically you don't admit that even
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  Speaker 1: if that is a thing. That's why it was hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen somebody so outwardly
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  Speaker 1: focused on I mean, and she did frame it in
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  Speaker 1: some decent ways, like I want to be supported, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be the soul breadwinner. Uh, those things
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  Speaker 1: make sense. However, I think she was saying that to
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  Speaker 1: convince herself that maybe she's not wrong, Like this is
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  Speaker 1: not a healthy thought to marry somebody based on them
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  Speaker 1: having six figures to give to their dog or owning
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  Speaker 1: their own company. Trust me, Ashley, I own my own company.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you're stupid wealthy sometimes, so I have
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  Speaker 1: never had that point of view. And you guys know
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  Speaker 1: I'm honest about everything. Like that's just never been like
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  Speaker 1: the thing. I don't understand why there are gold diggers
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  Speaker 1: who would rather marry for money than love and like
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  Speaker 1: be married to a gross eight five year old man
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  Speaker 1: when they're in their thirties. It just doesn't make any
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  Speaker 1: sense to me. But I have friends that are that
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  Speaker 1: that can roll over into that territory. And I think
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  Speaker 1: it was hilarious to see on TV. Not right, but
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  Speaker 1: hilarious because he was just brutally honest. And what I
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  Speaker 1: did like was that she used this one expression which
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  Speaker 1: I think I can get behind, provider energy. Is it
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  Speaker 1: just like provider energy? She said, I just want a
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  Speaker 1: guy who gives off provider energy. It's kind of like
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  Speaker 1: big Dick energy. You don't have to have the big Dick,
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  Speaker 1: but I want you to have the energy. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: want you to act. Yeah exactly. So it's like I
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  Speaker 1: want you to put forth the effort that like, you're
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  Speaker 1: a guy who wants to provide. Yeah, I want you
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  Speaker 1: to be a hard worker. But I don't necessarily need
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  Speaker 1: to be rolling in the dough. That's my interpretation of
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  Speaker 1: that new expression that she's created. Oh but see, I
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  Speaker 1: saw it completely different. I just feel like she wanted somebody,
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  Speaker 1: yes with provider energy, and also to take her on
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  Speaker 1: trips and take her out to dinner and buy her things.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, Ben, you are correct, but that
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  Speaker 1: she did, just like for all of us other girls
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  Speaker 1: out there, put out a nice little term called provider
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  Speaker 1: energy at the end, which I was like, we can
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  Speaker 1: all get behind provider energy. But she definitely wants more
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  Speaker 1: than just the energy. Yeah, definitely, I mean, and I
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  Speaker 1: get that because as a husband or as a partner,
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  Speaker 1: I want to I want Jessica to know I will
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  Speaker 1: provide for her. Now. Granted, that doesn't mean that she
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  Speaker 1: still can't have provider energy herself for me, or that
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  Speaker 1: the girl can't make more under the umbrella of provider energy.
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  Speaker 1: The girl can still make more. Definitely, I want Jessica
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  Speaker 1: to know she is safe. I want her to know
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  Speaker 1: she'll be taken care of. I want her to know
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  Speaker 1: that I want her every dream for a relationship and
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  Speaker 1: for life, as long as it's healthy, to come true.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to help get you know, work with
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  Speaker 1: her and sit beside her as she works towards that
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  Speaker 1: and as we do that together. However, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: want this, I mean, and tell him this might be
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  Speaker 1: the non traditional side of me is I want her
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  Speaker 1: to provide for me also in certain ways, and so
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  Speaker 1: the provider energy makes sense. However, I think Logan has
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  Speaker 1: it in his words, in his in his affirmation. Really yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel provider energy from him right now. You
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  Speaker 1: see him as a child that she's like communicating like
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  Speaker 1: she is having me a fear that he is a
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  Speaker 1: man child and that he with his roommates and that
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  Speaker 1: he's young, and that she doesn't even know what he
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  Speaker 1: does for a living. And you get that same vibe.
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  Speaker 1: M okay, I can't say I would be turned on.
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  Speaker 1: We're very close in age, she's thirty three and thirty four.
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  Speaker 1: To hear that the guy lived with two roommates would
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  Speaker 1: make me go, yeah, save money, Yeah, sure, save money,
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  Speaker 1: but also frat boy life. Still in the frat boy life.
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather you have a small ask five, I'd rather
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  Speaker 1: you have these. I'd rather live in a shoebox by yourself,
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  Speaker 1: I think, and have that privacy. And is this where
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  Speaker 1: girls are different? Because for me, if I'm single and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not married, it would be a dream to live
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  Speaker 1: with my two buddies up until the day like I
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  Speaker 1: moved out to be with my wife. It would be
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  Speaker 1: a blast, Like we would have so much fun. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but I think that one body at that age is fine,
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  Speaker 1: but two does make it feel like, Oh I want
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  Speaker 1: TIN like a college environment. Yeah, I want TIN really
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  Speaker 1: because you have like you have like a circle of bros.
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  Speaker 1: Jared lived with his best girl friend and before we
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  Speaker 1: got together, Hannah, I gotta call you in for this.
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  Speaker 1: We need a third party perspective up East didn't get
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  Speaker 1: in here for this too. I love bringing the producers on.
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  Speaker 1: I see where you're coming from, Ashley, because the person
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  Speaker 1: I was with for like four and a half years
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  Speaker 1: lives alone in San Francisco because he's like very motivated
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  Speaker 1: and has a really intensive job, just wants to be focused.
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  Speaker 1: And that is attractive to me. If he was living
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  Speaker 1: with like six people and like still living, as you say,
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  Speaker 1: the frat life, it would be a bit more of
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  Speaker 1: a turn off. Okay, So I agree, what is your opinion?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm with I'm with Anna here. I
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  Speaker 1: think if you uh to me, Um, if you live
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  Speaker 1: by yourself, that means you got your act together. Um.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of roommates. I'm sorry you don't. They're close friends.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not dealing with it now. Granted I say all
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  Speaker 1: of this, and I lived alone for eight years, and
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  Speaker 1: you were that guy. You were the guy that we're
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  Speaker 1: referring to as the hot one. Yeah, I'm the hot one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So you lived in a small house and you always
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  Speaker 1: talk about how small your houses and how the bathroom
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  Speaker 1: was right off the kitchen. But that is so much
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  Speaker 1: more attractive. Yeah, I guess. I mean, and it took
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  Speaker 1: a lot. I get what you're saying because there's a
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  Speaker 1: sense of responsibility there too. And what I learned during
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  Speaker 1: that time, and as you found on the podcast, you know,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: years ago, one of the things that happened when I
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: was in the house that got broken into twice once
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  Speaker 1: with me there, right, a dude standing in my back
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  Speaker 1: like kitchen area. And what it taught me was I
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  Speaker 1: had to step up, Like I can't just like count
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  Speaker 1: on my really buff, strong, tough roommate to like take
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  Speaker 1: him out. No, that's me with a baseball bat being
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  Speaker 1: like get out of my house please. Um. And so
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  Speaker 1: I do think you I mean, I'm gonna say this,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it can mean. I think there was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of me coming into my manhood by living alone.
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  Speaker 1: I think I matured a lot, and I think I
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  Speaker 1: had to learn a lot and I had to be
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  Speaker 1: aware of a lot, and I had to take care
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  Speaker 1: of a house, which is a big responsibility for anybody
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  Speaker 1: that does that. So I get what you're saying. I
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  Speaker 1: just personally think it would be fun to have ten
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  Speaker 1: dudes watching Monday night football with a beer in hand,
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  Speaker 1: like and then all of us going our separate ways.
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  Speaker 1: But what that means that I did live alone. So
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  Speaker 1: we're saying that Logan doesn't throw that like provider energy
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  Speaker 1: out there, that that's making more sense to me. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I think my issue with this actually kind of wrap
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  Speaker 1: up this thought too, is that I didn't like and
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  Speaker 1: I thotastic goes back to the test I think with you.
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  Speaker 1: The test threw me off, and the fact that she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really like either one of them, she doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: and and this is what's sad to me. And that
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  Speaker 1: brings me to what I was saying, is as a
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  Speaker 1: reflected on this moment and why it was bothering me
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  Speaker 1: so much. Now it doesn't bother me enough for me
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  Speaker 1: to lose sleepover really think about ten minutes after the
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  Speaker 1: show is done, but it does during the show. And
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  Speaker 1: I like to write down notes and what I'm feeling
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  Speaker 1: while I'm feeling it. And I think the thing is
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  Speaker 1: this is Kate is a beautiful person. Like physically, she's
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  Speaker 1: very inquisitive. We've seen that she obviously cares because she's
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  Speaker 1: in most of the moments when people are hurting, she's
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  Speaker 1: around to give them some support and some advice. And
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  Speaker 1: I believe that's coming from a good place. What I'm
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  Speaker 1: upset about and this, and and I could be corrected,
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  Speaker 1: and I've probably overstepped my bounds already, is that Kate
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  Speaker 1: is going to miss out on what true love is.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: And true love is a beautiful thing to have and
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  Speaker 1: to hold, and it's a gift, and it's sacred and
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  Speaker 1: it's special. And what I want to tell Kate if
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  Speaker 1: I was her friend, again I'm probably overstepping my bounds here,
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  Speaker 1: is that there is love out there for you. It
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  Speaker 1: could be somebody that you are provided by right and
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  Speaker 1: for It could be somebody that you live in the
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  Speaker 1: smallest little place, it in the like work place that
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to live at all, and you can
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  Speaker 1: only eat ramen for your meals. But there's love there
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: and that's a story to tell, and that's beautiful and
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: that's something to pursue. And I don't think if I'm
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: a friend and she's thirty three years olds, I would
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: tell her. She's like I tell my best girlfriends in
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the world right now, is I don't think you're looking
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: for love in the right place, and I don't think
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: your criteria is going to match up to your the
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: joy and happiness that love provides. And that's what frustrates me.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: But again that's me overstepping my bounds because I don't
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: have a relationship with her to tell her that, Ben,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: you're just so right in every single way. And earlier
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I said I didn't want to be friends with Kate,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: but actually I do want to be friends with Kate
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: because I think she is kind of fun with the girls.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I do think she's emotionally supportive with them when they
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: need them the most. But she's so entertaining and what
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: you're saying is right. Again, what you're saying is right.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: But I can't get enough of her saying this stuff
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: on nasital TV. She's good TV. She's good, so funny,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: she's really good TV. But the thing is she doesn't
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: like either of them. She really doesn't. She's probably like
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I think she seems more attracted to Logan, like she
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: wants to hook up with him, but she doesn't really
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: want to be with either of them in real life. Well, Ashley,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: last week, we were upset with Kate because she was
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: bad mouthing her date on her date with Hay, like
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: she was literally making fun of him, making fun of him. Well,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: at least at the time, I thought she was making
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: fun of him because she said something like he paid
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: six figures to get his dog, you know, and and
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: maybe secretly she was like, no, he paid six figures
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to get that dog. That dude's got some chain on him.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe I just read that situation completely wrong. I could have,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: but we were we were saying, Kate, it's not cool
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and you're on a date with somebody. Why don't just
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: leave this day if you don't like them? And now
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: we're saying, wait, she's thinking about this guy. Yeah, wait, bad,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: one more thing before we move on. I didn't think
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: we were going to spend this much time. But she
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: was like my sister in Christ, My sister. I mean,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I wonder, Yeah, you know, people like because I'm because
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I'm a Christian, Like that is a thing that's said, right,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: you're my brother in Christ. No, I don't say it
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: like I think if like somebody showed it to me.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going to a pastor's conference here in about two hours,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I leave for this conference. And it's a bunch of
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: pastors around the country. I tell you what, all my
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: buddies know this, and all my pastor buddies know this.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: If one of them shakes my hand today and say hello,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: brother in Christ, I'll be like, hey, dude, no we
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: we we ain't playing this game. Like it was so
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: funny because what she was doing is say like she
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: was prefacing that she was about to be extremely honest.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Is that what she was doing. Because I heard it
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and we're in this together, aren't we? Lady were in
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: this stage. Yeah, okay. So I don't know if there
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: was like a religious undertone or a face statement to
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: that more than just like hey, hey, I'm just gonna
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: tell you something that's like that's necessary here my sister
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and christ come come come sit with me now. Yeah,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit. Uh. I don't want to say
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: triggering because gorings away too bigod word. It's it's a
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: weird word for like saying for me to hear, because
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: like you hear your whole life. And sometimes it's like
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a little manipulative because like you're like, you know, brother
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: in Christ, don't you think this way also? And you're
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: like wait no, I don't like no again perfectly said,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: she was like, okay, okay, come to my side, come
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: to my side, getting honest with you, and I hope
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that you see me. Yeah, I see it because it's
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: a it's a tip. Like my experience is, it's a
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: manipulative opening statement to get somebody to be convinced or
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: feel like they need to be convinced by your opinion.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: It's like way the way people say, oh, bless your
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: heart when they're like demeaning you good old South, good
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: old This is one of my favorite scenarios. Now, I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: know the the Roddeney allies in Justin scenario took up everything,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: But that's why I wanted to start here, because actually
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I think this was one of the most intriguing and
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: interesting like dynamics of the episode. Was Kate's kind of
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: um honest opinion. And I gotta give her this again,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: the close out this thought. I gotta give her the
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the the credit for being very honest about what she
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: was looking for and what she's feeling. I cannot hate
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: or I cannot dislike somebody for saying, no, you know
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: what's really attractive to me is to have a lot
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: of money. Now I might disagree with that, I might
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: say I don't think that's healthy, but I can't even
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I can't say it's wrong because how do you quantify
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: if it's wrong or right. I can't do that. It
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: just you don't ever hear somebody saying it as honestly
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and as openly and as many times in a couple
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: different ways as she did. So so interesting to me.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I also just want to say, hey, it's gonna be
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: interesting to watch Logan because Logan obviously got a rose
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: and then was told that, hey, I just need to
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: step up a bit, and he's like, I don't know
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: what that means. I have no idea. Oh, this guy
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: is just like on the weirdest back journey ever. Okay,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: so let's talk about something else that was fun to watch.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: It was Aaron and Genevieve at the party talking about
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the love that they have for each other. But Aaron
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: is the ultimate jokester, and I knew he was going
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to do this. I thought he was gonna fake break
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: up with her, but instead he goes, so remember how
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I told you that I was falling in love with
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: you on the Jungle Walk, Come down the stairs. That's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: what it is. Well, I lied, I can't. I can't,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I can't. I shouldn't have said that because I am
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: in love with you. And I was like, oh my god,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: it's so fun to watch another thing that's like Torturius
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to somebody else, which is poor Genevieve, but great for
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: us to watch. The Yeah, it's good for us to watch.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I thought he was hammered like and he might have been,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: but that dude looked like he was like he was
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: like eight bourbons deep, couldn't get his words out. I mean,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I can't say he was now because I think he
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: was nervous and trying to get the right words that trigger.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: He was sweaty in a way that you're not Paradise sweaty.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: He looked like he was like emotionally. Yeah, so he
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: sat her out in the rain to do this, which
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: is I mean from this episode or from last episode,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I learned that people love sitting in the rain and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: make it out. Um, well this, you know that was
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: pretty hot. You know, I get it, Like when Logan
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: and Kate did. It's like pretty exciting. Yeah, romantic picked
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: me up? Yeah, um, but yeah, it was a good scene.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I I don't know, Ash, I'm not convinced this that
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the Aaron Genevieve relationship though still exists today. And I
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: don't know, Um, I'm just not convinced. You're not convinced.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: You've hung out with her a few times, but not convinced. Well,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: she never No, she was not flirtatious. I did not
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: ask them, and I think I said this. I did
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: not ask them really anything about Paradise or how it
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: played out, because it would be too hard for me
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: to do this show and no, and so we talked
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a lot about where they're they where they were out personally, um,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: you know with Rachel and genevieven Victoria, but we never
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: really spoke about like I had no clue that Victoria
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: had any dates in Paradise. Um let alone looks like
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: a pretty solid relationship with Johnny. So I don't I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: don't know. It just it feels like it's healthy. But
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: it also to me feels so different than anything um
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I've seen, because it is a little contentious that you
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: know it will it will make it to the end,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: That's a question I have. I mean, it just takes
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: one more time for her to leave. Robert Mills tweeted
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: that this coming week that there will be a breakup
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: along the lines of Carly and Kirk. So, if you
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: guys remember Carly and Kirk, it seemed like it was
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: going good and all all of a sudden. So I
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: feel like, if I have to tag a couple that
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: will be that, I think it's going to be them. Yeah. Well, Ashley,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: it's time to get to the big moment. It's the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Eliza Rodney justin love triangle. Ashley, I'll let you because
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you're fired up. I'll let you take this away, and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of chime in. I don't have maybe
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: as strong thoughts as you do, but I'll be interested
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: to hear your Okay, it's not that complicated to explain.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: She goes into a roast, you know, she goes into
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: a cocktail party. She has to make her decision finally,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: after this week of being confused between whether she's gonna
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: pick Justin or Ronnie. The entire cast is putting so
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: much pressure onto her picking Rodney, who they say is
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: ready for the relationship, that like just in love with her,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: that will do anything to be with her, that is
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: just the ultimate romantic and gentleman. And they're like, Justin, Yeah,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: he's fun, we all like him, we all want to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: be friends with them, but we don't want you to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: be with him. But then we see the two moments
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: with her and the guys, and to me from her side,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: she seems just as into into both of them. I
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: think I said this last week and I'll say it again.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I think there's more of a physical connection that she
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: has attraction whatever to Justin. There's like a different light
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: in her eyes. I really think that she looks at
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Ronnie like your stability, your husband material. But Justin is
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: like the guy that I just kind of want to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: jump his bones right now. That's just my interpretation of
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: what I see. She certainly doesn't say this or allude
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: to this, but I'm just like picking up on body language.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: But she's and I will say, Ronnie is super romantic.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: He says all the right things. Heh It's just so sweet.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: It's like, I get it. I get why the cast
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: wants her to be with him, for sure, for sure,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: but I do feel like there's maybe a little bit
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: too much pressure, and you felt just there's something about
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the editing that you felt like even though the first
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that she was going to pick him
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: at the Rose ceremony. Going into the Rose ceremony, I
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: was like, Gosh, too many people are saying gotty with Ronnie.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Got Ronnie, She's gonna pick Justin and it's gonna be
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: like poo Justin. And it's like, ah, that's what I
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: was expecting. But then it didn't go that way, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: then I was like, Oh, this isn't over. This is
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: not over. As soon as she went and walked just
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: into the car, I was like, she's going to ask
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: him back, She's gonna say I can't do that. She's
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: gonna want him to join the group again. That didn't happen,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: but it eventually happened the next day once she just
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: kind of comes clean and says, the pressure got to me.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Everybody wanted me to be with Rodney, but my heart
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: isn't there, and it was really sad. So most people
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: listening have watched this scene play out, and what I
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: want to do now is take some time to dig
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: into our opinions on this situation. Be think it's important.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: So my opinion was that she was pressure too much. Yeah,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I think, and she said it, and I think when
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: she said it it to the girls, I think it
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: made a lot more sense to me. I feel I
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: feel for Liiesa there, I feel for Rodney and and
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and ultimately, uh, he is a tremendous dude. I mean,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: that's two seasons now he's been on This is hard
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to do, trust me. I mean I was. I had
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of friends when I was on the Bachelor.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't make a lot of friends when I was
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. I hope I still say this today. I
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: hope the women that left that show, Um, you know
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: know that I tried my best and that I tried
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: to respect the whole situation well and them well, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I hope they feel like, yeah, that was a decent season.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: If anything to be on that that was worth me
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: going on. And I remember an opening night. I don't
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: think they showed it, but my very first speech to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: them was, I don't know how to do this thing.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I have no clue how this is going to play
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: out here. But my hope, my only hope, is that
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: everybody that comes that's sitting in the room in front
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of me now leaves this going You're glad you did
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: it for whatever reason you did this for. And I
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: think even with that mentality there, you still get people
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that don't like you. That happens in life. Somehow Rodney
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: has made it through two seasons with everybody absolutely adoring
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: this villa, and I think it's clear why he's the
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: great dude. Yeah, but people, people on the beach are crying.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: It was like somebody died. It was so crazy. I've
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: never seen some I've never seen a cast so upset
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: about somebody else's heartbreak. It was so sweet, it was lovely.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I love seeing it. It really is a testament of
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: what kind of human he is. And this is what
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: This was the moment that made me say, well, there's
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: actually multiple moments with Rodney that made me say I
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: have to curse on this podcast today. Why the isn't
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: he the Bachelor? That's a good question. That's a good question.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: So like, it just doesn't make any sense because the
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: producer and they knew of this moment, of this situation
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: before picking Zach. This moment happened in June. They knew
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: that the cast is gonna be this distraught over it,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: They knew that the audience is going to root for
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: him so hard, and then they chose Zack. Really nobody
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: felt anything intensely for And they also knew that this
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: moment was going to be shown in November, very close
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to the premiere of The Bachelor, and people would have
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: been so excited and felt so much better going into
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor's season or they feel so much better watching
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Paradise knowing, ah, this is why he's the Bachelor. Oh,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: this guy deserves the Bachelor. It doesn't make any sense
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to me. Actually, he is, he is the perfect choice.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: He is this this is what's confused me these days
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: with the show is he's like the golden gift, right,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like handed to them on a silver platter,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: being like, do you want somebody that people are gonna watch?
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Do you want somebody that people are gonna root for?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Do you want somebody that people are gonna be emotionally
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: invested into? Do you want somebody it's a good dude
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: that most people really gaging. He's fun to watch, he's
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: magnetic ally, we got that, but we don't want that.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: We want this dude. It's very confused to me. I
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: would have a feeling that Rodney's time on this show
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: is not done. He is still their gift to be
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. If he is not the next bachelor after this,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be very confused. He is the best candidate
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: we've had. The time passes and it doesn't make it
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't make you feel as much. We don't need the
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: time passing, And maybe that they really wanted us to
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: be invested on him through Paradise. They wanted him to
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: be the star of Paradise. Sure, but you make a
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Culton and Nick the bachelor after their seasons of Paradise
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and you're not going to go and give us the
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: gift of Rodney as the Bachelor, like you've done it before.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: You've spoiled your Paradise season in in respect of having
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the better and it worked out good ratings, right, Most
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: seasons had good ratings, a lot of engagement, a lot
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: of crossover. Actually, I'm with you. I think most people
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: are with you. Um. I to kind of put a
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: bow on this though, because obviously we we both agree
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: strongly that Rodney should have been the bachelor, should be
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor, start filming over again. I'm sure a lot
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: of people would be fine with it. Make him the
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: bachelor and just film this thing in a month. I
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: don't care, just show him on ours again. Whatever. But
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I do want to just mention because I think, um
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: and I didn't see a lot of it. I'm glad
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I did. You have to imagine the really difficult situational
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Eliza was in. She did nothing wrong. Um oh yeah,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: this is nothing against Eliza, and I love the fact
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: that the girls were so supportive of her when they
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: were on the bed. They're like, go get your man,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: go get your man, like you know, you have to
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: follow your heart like that. And I'm just so glad
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: that they weren't like, what are you thinking, Yeah, this
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: is one of those moments on Paradise. Actually that it's
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: sad and it's hard to watch and we don't want
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: anybody to be involved in it because but it's it's
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: what makes this show, and it's made this show from
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor and The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise. It's
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: what's kept it around for twenty plus years. Are these
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: moments where there's no there's no secret here that real
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: love existed and that real feelings were being you know, communicated,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: and that some one of these people believe that their
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: partner forever was in on that beach with them. We've
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: seen it on The Bachelor before. We've seen on The Bachelor,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: we've seen The Bachelor Paradise. Those moments that stick out
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: to us. This is what makes the show great. These
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: are the moments that we need to bring back because
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: they're always available because people fall hard if we allow
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: them to fall hard. Um, and we haven't seen it
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: in years. We haven't seen these dramatic scenarios where yes
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: we've seen breakups, Yes we've seen some twists and turns
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: at the end, but have we really seen something in
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: years where we have been so convinced that one of
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the people really believes, like truly believes that their partner
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: is on the show with them, that there their heart
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: is in it, that the love exists. We haven't seen it,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and I've missed it. This is hard to watch. Again.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I don't enjoy watching it. But what's It's what keeps
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: me watching the show. That was a beautiful tribute. No,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: thank you? Well, yes, it was a great diet tribe.
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Well it is and I feel
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: like that towards Brandon and Serene too. Yeah. I have
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: a feeling we're not going to see tears there, so
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna see good love love. Let's talk about
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: the teaser for next week. We see Eliza going to Baltimore,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: which is definitely forsake of drama because at the time
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: that Rodney is finding out that Eliza is going to
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: go after Justin, he's definitely still at Vendanta. Yeah, Justin,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Justin said one of the rooms, you usually don't leave
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the day after the rose ceremony. They used like one
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: buffer day. I figured Justin was still there. And even
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: if there's any hesitance you know, the producers were going
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: to be like, oh, hold him, hold him there and
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: now they but like, nope, they send them home. Their
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: flights are probably within hours apart. They might be on
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the same flight. But I love it. I love it
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: for the drama and I can't wait to see his
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: reaction because he seems more puzzled than happy. We'll have
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait. Okay, um, let's go
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: onto headlines and then we'll wrap it back up. All right, Ashley,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: it's time for Bachelor headlines. We have a couple of
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: them this week, A couple of them to break down,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: a couple of them. I need your opinion on uh
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and uh in your opinion more of what in the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: world is happening? Uh. Jesse Palmer says Gabby Windy and
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Eric are trying to quote work through things after broken engagement.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna call h And again, you guys. Fanna was
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: on our Breaking News podcast last week and we told
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  Speaker 1: you about the breakup between Gabby and Eric and Hannah
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: so that she had seen him out and about in
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Santa Monica, which is where he moved just prior to
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. He was out with buddies and blah blah blah,
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  Speaker 1: and well this weekend, right after the announcement of the breakup,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: she saw him out again. What did you see? Oh,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you didn't see him. Your friends saw him. Our other producer,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Kendall Cohen, sent me a million pictures of him out
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  Speaker 1: and about, and he was with the lady, was living life,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: living life with ladies around him. It looked like he
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: was broken up. You've got me for good. Yeah, that's
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: what I'm just gonna say. It looks like they're working
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: through things. Huh, really working through things. My goodness. All right.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Next headline is this Bachelor Nation's Emily Maynard chairs baby
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: number six was born with Down syndrome. She speaks about
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: this with e I'm so happy for Emily. She just
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: seems to be the best mom, serious say, the best.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: She's to me, like my idle bachelorette who I've never met,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: And I just think she's such a wonderful spirit and
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: soul and I love watching her and her family grow.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: So she never announced that she was having another baby,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: but then just last week she said that on August
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: thirty one, Tyler and I welcomed our sweet son, their
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: sixth child. First off, like, can we just give a
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: moment to breathe after six kids? My goodness, yeah, my goodness,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Thank goodness, Ricky, her daughter is old enough now to
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: like probably take a little bit of a I don't
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: want to say par rental role, but a big help roll. Yeah.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: So Jones West Johnson entered the world on August thirty one,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: and she said, during my surgery, which I think she's
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: referring to a C section, but I'm not sure there. Um,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: she goes, we learned that he was born with Down syndrome. Um,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: and it was certainly a surprise. I didn't do genetic testing.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: And she goes, we have so much peace in God's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: perfect plan, and now that Jones is going to be
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: a blessing to our family. She said that he was
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: in the neo natal intensive care unit for a little
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: over a month and is now home and she just
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: couldn't love him more. Um, and she's just so thankful
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: for everything that the Atrim Health Leave in Children's Hospital
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: in Charlotte did for them during that time. Um, he's
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: such a cutey, He's such a CUTEI so um, I'm
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: excited to see how he in light you know, just
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: brings joy to their family. You know it's uh, it
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: is wild to have six kids. I cannot imagine it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: But she is a tremendous mother. Uh and uh and
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: you know what, congratulations on their six child together. Actually
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: switching gears a lot here. This is one um that
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I needed your opinion on Bachelination stars Greg Grippo and
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Victoria Fuller spark dating rumors. And then the second headline
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: is this Victoria Fuller kisses Greg Grippo at dinner with
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Nick Vile and more Bachelor Nations members. Now, the only
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: reason we're even talking about this, Yes, they were spotted
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: in Rome together and so we have a good idea together.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Is that? Hut? Well that Nick posted this, He outed
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the couple on his social media twice, Ashley, Really weird,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: isn't that odd? I mean, do you think there was? Okay?
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: So there's a couple of rumors that I looked up
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: before this. Uh. You know one is just Nick was,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: you know, doing his thing and and sparking a rumor
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: on his own social right. The second is that people
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: believe that maybe the producers we're working with Nick to
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: spark this and get the reaction. I don't see why
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: that would be beneficial to the show, but it is
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: a theory. Um. Yeah, we don't want to spoil like
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: too much here on the podcast. Obviously you guys can
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: look up spoilers as to what at the reunion show,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: which taped on Friday. The first headline here is more
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: of like a like one of it's ex subtle, Okay,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: So basically Victoria posted a picture and she said, go
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: on and put on that dress that all the bad
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: boys like, and then Greg responded underneath good girl. So
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: obviously that's on their own. That's them sparking the dating
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: rumors on their own. But then them being out and
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: about and being so obvious one in public and to
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: kissing on camera, and you know that, like, Nick didn't
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: do that without approval. There's no way he didn't do
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: that without it. But he did that with approval from
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: definitely Victoria and Greg. And I can't imagine Nick going
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: and pissing off the producers like that. So I feel
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: like there has to be some sort of overall approval
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: on this romance coming out. Yeah, it's a it's surprising
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: to me. When I saw it, I was like, this
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: is uh, yeah, this is surprising, if anything, that Nick
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: would be posting about this. I don't know. I'm not
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the details of this. I
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: just know that if I was dating somebody personally and
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: one of my friends posted a video knowing that people
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: were going to speak about it and talk about it,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: and I was gonna have to be answering to it,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I would be upset because I would want. I mean,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: when when Jessica and I were dating for you know,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I think four months before we became public or three
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: months before we became public, we did it on our
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: own time and what felt healthiest to us and what
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: felt like we were ready for. So I would be
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: shocked if there wasn't approval um from by Nick uh
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: for this post. And I don't think we have any
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: comments from Victoria greg on the video being shared. But
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: also my question is this why wanted the two of
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: them just want? I mean, if this is all about
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: like getting social media attraction and getting people to like show,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: like be on your social media, one of the two
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: of them want to make this announcement or like post
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: this little video. My theory is this they want a
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: pepper in little hints and not be super obvious to
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: the math population that watches The Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I think that they want to like kind of warm
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: the audience up to being like, this is happening. She's
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: not with Johnny, So even though you're about to see
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: a few more weeks of her possibly with Johnny on
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: the show, don't get attached to that storyline. But I
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: also don't think they wanted to be a big fat
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: spoiler for people who don't necessarily look for deep cuts
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: on social media. Okay, well, um, interesting developments playing out there,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna see what's going on. Well, a couple
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: final headlines is here. Jesse Palmer teases that Zach season
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: of The Bachelor is easily the most emotional journey I've hosted.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: He says this, according to This Weekly, I think he's
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: hosted this will be this is what third season? So yeah,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: me too, me too, me too. He's a great little
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: puppet in this moment. Yeah. Um yeah, So he hosted
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Clayton season and then uh the Girl's Double season and
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: then Paradise. So okay, it's more emotional than Clayton season.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Clinton season got it pretty emotional there.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: His here of his here his quotes that we don't
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: necessarily really believe because we are a little mad at
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: the fact that Zach is the bachelor over Ronnie at
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: the moment, But here we go. The women are really
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: into Zack. Zack so emotionally mature, and he's the guy
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: that's not afraid to wear his emotion on his sleeve.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: He's very, very intentional. This is easily the most emotional
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: show that I've hosted in the franchise. It's going to
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: be emotionally charged, and it's because everybody really wants this.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: It's a totally different vibe than the other shows that
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I've hosted. I think he's doing amazing. I can't wait
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: people for people to see his journey. I don't know
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: how do you get more emotional than last night when
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the whole cast is crying. I have no idea, but
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be excited to see because we'll be
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: watching it because that's what we do here at the
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Almost Fame podcast. We we break it down, we share
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: opinions right or wrong, and what we're feeling and thinking
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: at the time. Well, Ashley, that's all we got for
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: everybody today. We'll be back next week. With another episode
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: of the Almost Famous Podcast, unless some other breaking news
• 45:12
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• 45:15
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• 45:18
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