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me tonight, and right to left we got George Iichord. Welcome back,
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George, thank you very much. Good to be here, guys, and
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thank you for calling me a leader. Oh there you go, hey,
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listen. It all plends in with the program, all right, Jacob Chrisler.
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We've got a lot of work to do the next two days, and
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it starts tonight. Welcome back, jac thank you, thank you. And
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if everybody's the leader, nobody's the leader of Winsom. All right. The
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newest edition to the Sports Exchange is Big Mike. Mike wearing a Bear's jersey
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and obviously one that he takes a lot of pride in that Jacob Christner can
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only relate to. Am I be the only one? Absolutely I had?
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Not only am I joining at the right time and getting on a great podcast.
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I got to go back at Jacob for the comments a couple of weeks
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ago that infuriated all of us actual Bears fans out there. We don't want
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pretty, we want w's. We don't know you're good, Then go get
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the ws and quit worrying about being highlights. Oh, it's not the highlights
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we're worried about. It's worried about consistency and coaching. You get a running
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quarterback and the last thing you have him do is run or you have all
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right there you go, all right. But anyways, I knew we had
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to get a little trubisky. Five and last but not leaves JB Ellis,
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Welcome back to the Big Show. What's going on? Long time? No
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see guys? How's everybody doing? Welcome back? Hey, listen, even
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though you're out there having a good time across a big fond or doing everything
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we can and continue to improve what we're doing. So when you came back,
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it's even in better shape than it was when you laughed at and JB.
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I don't know if you heard it, but Scott did a terrific JB
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last week. So oh lit ye oh yeah yeah, JB. You know
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I never forget about my brother from another mother. Let me tell you,
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you know. So when you have an opportunity to listen to that show,
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you have the right to go out there and tell me and grave me if
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I did a good JB Ellis impersonation. Well, it's better than sister from
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another mister. You always come up with some good one liners. Okay,
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you long ways to go take them, but it's good stuff, all right.
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Let me go with the topics roll. We only have three of them,
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and one of those topics that we have actually occurred during the FAU Men's
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basketball media day. We'll insert that clip in a little while, but we're
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going to talk about first. Roy Firestone mentioning Pat McAfee gets paid eighty five
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million dollars off a five year deal, is paying Aaron Rodgers millions to come
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on his show. And so when Roy had up closed, he gave guests
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a pair of custom dress shirts and they had a chance to stay in a
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fancy night hotel course in LA. They're pretty good and promotional considerations. Meanwhile,
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Paton McAfee made one hundred and twenty million during his last deal at fan
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Duel. So what are your thoughts of this, George, What the thoughts
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of actually paying for guests and bear in mind He also pointed out that ESPN
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fires some pretty good reporters, anchors and producers paying for guests, let alone
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millions for him, George, I don't think that. I don't think so,
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Scott, you and I have been in this business a long time and
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we never saw that kind of money flow. Obviously we're not at that level.
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But hey, listen, Roy Floyerstone, seven time Emmy Award winner,
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seven time Ace Award winner. I'm going to learn a lot more from Roy
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and I have all these years. McAfee. Okay, he's loud, he's
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obnoxious, he's opinionated. But still, no, I don't agree with paying
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guests to come on those shows of his. And I know that he makes
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a lot of money. But listen, that's a network, as we all
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know. We've talked about it, but that's you know, firing people left
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and right, getting rid of hard working anchors and reporters and influential people that
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we all looked up to and admired and all across their spectrum of all major
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sports. But no, I don't agree with paying those people to come on
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the air, especially Aaron Rodgers. Please. Yeah, not like the guy's
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not well off in the first play, so I'd added a little bit more
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to it exactly he was paying them. On his last act, he traded
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FanDuel for ESPN on probably because he felt the exposure was a great deal more
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on ESPN. I don't care. Reality has paid millions of dollars. But
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I always thought that being able to retain guests was about relationship building. And
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now we're talking about this. This to me, and I'll tell you what
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right now, and I'll mention I'll have the final word on it. But
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I'm gonna turn over to Jacob. I have my feelings about Roy Firestone,
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who I do mention prominently in my book. Well, one of the things
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about Roy Firestone that he was doing he was getting nice dress shirts and everything
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because he wanted everybody on there. You wanted everybody own there to look good.
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That was his main thing. But as you know what this does,
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I'm just saying this about Pat McAfee, what he did. This hurts us.
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In the media, in this new media hurts us because we're gonna want
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people. We're gonna want the best. We're gonna want Tyson Pagen, We're
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gonna want Yeah, We're gonna want uh, We're gonna want DJ Moore,
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We're gonna want all them. It's gonna take one just to say we want
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to get paid for it. It's gonna hurt us, especially when we don't
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have the money to do something like that to be able to get these But
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really, the thing about the thing about him doing something like this by himself
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is he also owns, basically owns his own production company. So he does
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what he wants. He owns it is throughout his own things. He kind
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of gets it, he to use it. But you wanna know what I
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believe this is in a certain way. I believe it's his own. He's
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paying for his own political deal. And I'll tell you why. Aaron Rodgers
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brings up and makes fun of the Travis Kelce and the VAX thing all the
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time. He's against the vacks. I get the feeling. Pat McAfee can't
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say it, but he can pay somebody to get on there to do it.
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I get the feeling that's exactly what that's about. So he's paying somebody
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whatsoever to talk every week about you know, their politics, their everything.
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Pat says that he's probably gone from ESPN, but you can do the brilliant
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thing and go get somebody that can't kick off. So I get the feeling
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that's what he's doing. But it hurts us. Nonetheless, let me bring
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up an interesting point about ESPN, and that's this here's an organization many many
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years going off. You remember this, Okay, that brought Rush Limbaugh on
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and he didn't even make it to the end of the year because they knew
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what they were buying. But when it came down to crunch time, they
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let him go. So now you're now if what you're saying, Jacob has
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a lot of teeth throat, which I have a feeling it is to me
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this is a bad act. All right, Mike, go ahead. Well,
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I mean, let's be honest. Pat McAfee is part of the TMZ
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generation. That's how this, this is what this smells like. I'm gonna
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pay guys for scoops. So the problem is now not only like you said,
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Jacob, okay, is it a political Is it a political move?
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He can say things I can't, But what's to stop guys now coming up?
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Hey, I've got a scoop for you, but I'm not coming on
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your show unless you pay me X Y and Z amount. And like Jacob
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stated, it also hurts everybody else. It takes one person to say,
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you know what set the precedent. I'm not going on your show unless I
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get something out of it. So it's this I need it now. I
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want it now. And on top of it, I'm gott to say it.
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I started off a bit of a Pat McAfee fan when he was kind
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of under the radar, But the Shenanigans, the antics, it's getting too
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much. I mean, the fact that he was in pro wrestling is kind
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of perfect because to me, right now, he's the pro wrestler of media.
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It's fake. He's not a true he's not a true media personality.
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If you look at the ratings, and if you look at the ratings right
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now on the big ESPN college football show, it's actually going down. And
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if you look at the reason why a lot of people are saying they can't
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stand him, and this supports what they've been saying, is that it's fake.
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The guy's not. He was hey, he was real as it gets
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as a punter, and he went out and did things punters normally don't do
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by trying to light people up and such. But as far as a far
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as a broadcaster, as far as somebody who i'd look to actually get sports
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news from, it's the TMZ generation. He's gonna pay for whatever he wants.
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And I do believe Jacob is correct and the fact that he's got people
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that, Yeah, he's gonna have people on his show that are gonna they're
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gonna echo him. They're gonna he can puppet them into saying what he wants
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to say without getting in trouble. But I will tell you the amount of
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times that they've slipped up and dropped an F bomb live on ESPN or words
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that they just can't handle or should just not be on live television. I
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got to get I gotta imagine ESPN's getting kind of sick of it, and
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at some point the rubber is gonna hit the road and he's gonna be back
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to having to pay for his own stuff out of his own pocket. Well,
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you're true, here's the truth. Here's one real quick thing too,
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when he keeps using that gimmick of the wife beaters or is that showed the
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Kevin Porters. But it's like when when you have those type things whatsoever.
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I'm telling you this straight. You have Steven a that looks like the Nines.
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You'll look. You have Shannon's Shark that looks like the Nines. You
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have Kendrick Perkins looks like the Nines. I mean, whether we like their
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personality, that they look like the nines. And you get this guy who
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puts on the wife beater and does all that. It's like they're gonna get
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annoyed with the thing because the other ones are trying their tail off to look
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the very best and be able to get to this thing. This guy comes
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and it's like, this guy needs to look a lot better. He doesn't
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need that gimmick. Can I say one more thing? It's hacky, That's
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really what it is. It's coming off as hackey, Like you said,
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the wife beaters. Some of the words he uses. He's trying so hard
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to be in this woke generation of linguistically wise, like talking everything he does,
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he talks in abbreviations all the time. I get what he's trying to
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do. He wants to get to the younger generation. But the problem is
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the younger generation is not who ESPN's main demographic is. It's not those people.
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And I just got to imagine at some point it's going to run its
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course. And I think the Rogers thing is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Oh, no question about it. And amazingly enough, I'll turn over
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JB. In a moment when I saw this come out yesterday from Roy because
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I told you he's a guy that I've learned a lot in terms of one
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on one interviews. I had already decided I'm not watching anything with Pat McAfee
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anymore because I just think he's fake. At that point, I don't want
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nothing to do with him. And then you also bring up a good point,
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Big Mike. I'm not even gonna watch College Game Day. As much
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as I like Lee Corso, I can't have this guy out there making a
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jerk out of himself. Ratings will ultimately wipe out that bad But now,
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Jacob, you also bring up a point which I like. Stephen A.
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Smith is obviously in LA covering the Chargers and the Dallas Cowboys, but don't
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you think that Disney's probably tell them. You know, Stephen, you're loud,
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We get it. You bring a lot of people here, but you
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need to pipe it down a little bit, is what you need to do,
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and bring in more things. So we're paying a lot of money for
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these other shows. I actually like the addition of Shannon Sharp, I really
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do, because he's a who's an athlete that's prepared and does his research.
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And Hendrick Perkins is a laugher. That's all. No, no, here,
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laugher, don't get that wrong. I'm just what I was talking about.
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I don't like what you think of what I'm telling you. I can't.
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Oh no, no, I'm not a fan of Kendrick either. I'm
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just used him as an example. Everybody that dresses to the nines to look
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that good, and then all of a sudden you get wife beater boy coming
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in and then he wants put a coat on. The looks snazzy. It's
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like, no, it's like when everybody's trying their hard and they're going to
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get mad at him because he's not. Yeah, I'm sorry to me,
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I'm not the right attire. All right, jab even patiently waiting what's your
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take on this? I mean, there's really not a take. He's he
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I guess, was an NFL player, was a punter. I mean,
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I don't know. Besides for that, what he does, all he does
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is talk nonsense. His show is unlistenable for a sports fan. You know,
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I don't get why I invest my time at his show. If I
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want to watch an entertainment show or listen to an entertainment show, I'm all
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for him. But if I'm listening to sports radio. I want something similar
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to what we do. You know, I've lived in New York most of
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my life. W fa N has phenomenal hosts. You know. ESPN Radio
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started to do it. Michael Ka, who a lot of people don't like,
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has a phenomenal show with Donald Greca, who is the long time guy
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who did the scores of w f AN, the updates. You know,
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knowledgeable about sports. Yeah, they yell subtimes and they're they're o pigionated,
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but they know what they're talking about. It's not just to get to like
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clickbait. Pat McAfee is the the epitome of clickbait. He's horrible. You
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know, if that's what you want in your in your sports coverage for all,
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by all means go ahead. You know, anybody that would want to
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sign him and bring him to their network, that's what you're looking to do.
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You know, That's why ESPN's gone got to wait from people watching them,
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because that's all they're about now. Steven a you know, back in
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the day he used to nobody was talking about valuable opinions. Today it's how
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loud can he yell at? What stupid things can he say? Right,
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you know, so it's just the whole demographic of what's important in covering sports
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has changed. And I certainly don't listen to a show. I can't stand
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it. You know, like Mike said, go back to wrestling. You
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know he'd be great. There be great, a great heel. You know
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that. Jacob could talk about it on his Monday Night show with Denzel Yep.
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Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. You want
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to know what that Pat mcavig reminds me of. You remember the movie Grand
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Sarino, the guy, the kid, he the kid. He he was
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trying to act like the black kid. They're like, shut up, you
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know. I mean it's like they don't want to be your bro. And
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I don't blame him and get out of here. That's what That's what Pat
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McAtee reminds me of. He's trying to he's trying to act the cool and
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they don't think he is. Yeah. I agree, And I just don't
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even I think it's who he is. I think he's just he's fake.
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Like you know a guy who that does that but is actually himself. Pharrell.
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Yeah, Pharrell is phenomenal. He knows sports, and that's his personality.
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He's not fake. That's who he is. So I'm okay with the
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guy that that's themselves, that's like that, because it's different. McAfee just
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seems like he's a front. You know, he's photing and I'm not going
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to invest my time with someone who's photy. You know what he comes off
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like. And I just thought of it because you said the exact JBU nailed
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it. He is the clickbait king of ESPN right now. That's all he's
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doing, is trying to get clicks by everybody says. You know what he
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is though, and I just thought about it. He is the growing up
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He is your buddy's dad that tries so hard to be hip. He wants
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to, he wants to be in the know, and he's trying to act
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like he's the cool guy. Hey, man, come to me. I'm
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your buddy. Hey, I'm all about the new generation. I'm all about
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the hip happening thing, and he's not. In the end, it comes
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off his fake. He comes off as hacky, and it comes off you
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looking like a jerk. That's the purfec. You got it. JB right
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on the head with that one. Well here, let me add a couple
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of thanks to number one. Michael Kay to me is a dynamite announcer.
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He really is. Anyways, I've met the guy a couple of times.
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I know what he's all about. We've had some pretty good conversations. But
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there's a guy, JB. You said you've grown up in New York.
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You're probably familiar with a that guy by the name of Bob Page, right,
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Yes, Bob Page actually is a good friend of mine, as well
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as George Eikorn. And Bob Page is a straight shooter and tells you the
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way it is. And I actually talked to Bob a few weeks ago about
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wanting to come on, but he's happily retired. I don't blame him,
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but these are the kinds of guys that are hard hitting, that have facts
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that tell it the way it is. Bob Page is great, but you
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guys are nieling it all over the ball park here that there's no question that
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tank tops. If I ever see a person wear a tank top on this
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show, I will get rid of him that fast. I will never tolerate
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that kind of stuff because you know, and I rarely ever tell jerseys unless
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there's a rare exception to it. I have no problem with doing it,
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but the reality is, you guys are right everyone here. Okay. That
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to me, Pat McAfee is like you say, the clickbait king, I
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don't need that. But but I think the one thing here that comes down
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to one word that describes this whole scenario, ESPN is desperate period. They're
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losing their market because they've let a lot of great people go veterans that help
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bring that network to where it is. And now if you have to resort
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to this, I don't like any shows that have expletives on them. I
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don't even care that to me, you know, I don't read the Bible
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much, but I can tell you right now the Bible probably doesn't have them
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in there. And I'm not trying to be two religions here, but I
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don't believe in expletives on a show. This is a key family show where
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we could be There's enough words in Webster's dictionary that we can use without having
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to go out there and resort to that type of language. Man, you're
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right on that. And let me say this part. You want to know
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what those they're doing, all those dirty language, you know what that is
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that's arrogance of thinking that the coasts, both west and east, are the
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only voting block. If you get my point, that's the arrogance of that.
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Now you go, when you think about it, and you know you
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want your watchers and you're out there. You get the Midwest, which I'm
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from Illinois, You get the Illinois, Missouri, Iowa. You get the
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South which I'm in Alama, Georgia, and you get all those. You
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get all these areas, the church areas, the all that kind of stuff.
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When you get all of these, these are other viewers. They don't
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want to hear that. But when you have the arrogance of thinking the East
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coast and West coast of the only one, then you get that problem.
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Yeah right, I agree, And don't forget Michigan is in the Midwest too
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well. And I also think I actually think it's an interesting look because with
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Disney, I'm kind of surprised and that just tells you how far that whole
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media empire has fallen that these Disney would even remotely consider having them on a
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network tied to their to their brand, to their organization. Yeah, but
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you know, Michael espn is, they've just got so far away from what
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they need to do cover sports. It's really all it is. You know,
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it's the simplest concept talk about sports. Sports is controversial enough. You
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don't need to as the host, the guy who talks about it be controversial.
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You could find things of the game, you know, Bob Lee outside
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the lines. That show is all about controversy. Did any would say Bob
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Lee was controversial now because all we did was cover things and that's what ESPN
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went away from, right, you know, it's just horrible. But yeah,
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but you know what, Bob Lee, JB you bring up a great
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point. I spent time talking to Bob Lee in North Carolina, an event
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you're going to go to later on next year with me as well as we
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can to to build our company, Sideline Sports and Self Work Tribune and take
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them to levels that they've never been. But the reality of the situation,
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bobly is everything that's right about journalism he is. It's a nuts and bold
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thing. And you know what, here's the thing, Mike that we all
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have to understand. And I know you're new to our program format, but
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the reality of the situation is this The whole objective behind what we do is
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educate, entertain, and inform, and I think that that's the one thing
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that a lot of people tend to get away from. And if you have,
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as I told you earlier in this particular show that you know Disney right
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now, I can see ESPN declining even more if they continue the trajectory that
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they're on that they are And this isn't a show about hammering ESPN, but
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there are facts that warn't us to be able to address these subjects. And
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to me, the title of the show is called paying for a guest.
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Okay, I will never pay for a guest. Somebody don't want to come
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on, you know, the NFL mentality JB next man up? Okay,
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And that's just how it is, you know, I mean, I don't.
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I mean really, I had a guy actually that mal Farr Junior referred
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to me wanted me to pay him. I said, uh no, okay,
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move on. And as long as you have LinkedIn, you have all
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kinds of different ways that you only have a credible platform, then we'll be
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able to do that. So yeah, I guess roy fires summarize the whole
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thing and we'll move on to our next topic. It's ridiculous, period it
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really really is. And you know, I'll say one thing about ESPN and
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I mentioned it so and show out. Okay, with all these researchers they
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have, I still can't believe they did not know that Chuck Hughes was the
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first only man to ever die on a football field. And we'll leave that
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for another day. All right, on the Major League baseball Kyle Schober,
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there's a new mister October is eighteen home runs in the postseason, and he
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actually is tied with Reggie Jackson and Mickey Mantle, but he actually ties Jackson
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for a left handed hitter. So what do you think of the new mister
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October? George Kyle Schwarber. This guy can hammer and JB was a beneficcher
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is some good things at the Cubs. So yeah, but look at his
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batting average. Oh my god, it's faced or famine with this guy.
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But hey, it's working. It's working. They got they got him,
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they got Bryce Harper, and they got Nick Castianos. I mean, they
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got so much pighate power in that Phillies lineup. And yeah, it's interesting,
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but you know, here in Detroit we got it not as bad a
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situation. But Spencer Torkosen hitting only around two thirty two forty, but boy,
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he really came into his own this year thirty home runs and ninety plus
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RBIs. But getting back to Horber, yeah, I mean the Phillies,
22:45
they they got quite quite a vorocious line up there, and I'll tell you
22:51
what, right now, I see them sights on that World Series and again
22:56
they're only up to nothing. But still I like him. He's a good
23:00
ball player. I mean, obviously it's Harper, uh, that's the superstar
23:04
over there. I mean more so, but you know, hey, you
23:07
got to have more than one. And they got a lot of lineup,
23:11
a lot of power in that lineup to Philly, so they really do.
23:14
I like him. I think he's a good guy. But again I wish
23:15
he was batting a little bit better than well, hovering around two hundred.
23:19
Yeah, but do you actually think anyone's gonna care about his banning average if
23:22
they want to New Baseball? All right, Jacob? Well yeah, it's
23:29
like and if there's anybody in this air that would be mister Baseball or mister
23:33
October, it would be Schwarber. Considering that was a two sixty two career
23:36
average with twenty five and ninety seven strikeouts. So you so, if you're
23:41
gonna have anybody, who's going to be Schwarber. But the thing about it
23:45
by itself is I'm getting close to saying Bryce Harper's miss October just because he
23:49
he does more with the bat. He does more than that. Isn't just
23:52
home runs and strikeouts. He does more with the bat. He can hit
23:56
all of the bill. So but the thing about Shwarver, though, it
24:00
is the new World, and we think about this, we're the Cubs fans,
24:03
So you got to realize, he hit it into the he hit it
24:07
on that sign, he hit all the signs. He Schwarber is fun.
24:11
He's Here's what it is. Bryce Harper is for the wins. There's no
24:18
there's a turn for golf. You drive for the show, and I know
24:22
you drive for the show and putt for the go. It's the same with
24:25
Schwarberg. You drive with Harper, you drive for the show and you putt
24:30
for the go. You know what I'm saying. It's like with all the
24:33
money, you know what I'm saying. With all that, that's what you're
24:36
getting. It's like you get Schwarber to get the casuals. You get Harper
24:41
to win. Yeah, but I'll tell you, when you get those World
24:44
Series rings and you're popping them out and you're and you're breaking a major historic
24:48
drought like the Coupys had one hundred plus years of not winning. He's on
24:52
that team. Your legacy carries a whole lot further when you're whacking them out
24:55
from the left handed side. Well, and to even him in the same
25:00
sentence as Reggie Jackson as a mister October. We all know what Bryce Harper
25:03
is. He's a phenomenal player. But I'll tell you Schwarber wins this.
25:07
He's got two World Series in his pocket. Ryce Harper would only have one.
25:11
But we're talking about mister October from the left handed side of the plate.
25:15
A yell mentioned left handed side, and I don't think that there aren't
25:19
lineups out there looking for good left handed hitters that can hit it. Yeah.
25:25
To think about is Schwarber also blew his knee out and came back for
25:27
the World Series. So for that's the type of thing. And I don't
25:30
think he a helme run for the World Series, but he but the biggest
25:33
thing with that one. But boy, he sure is now and he's really
25:37
hit it hard. And don't get that wrong. It's just when you get
25:42
and when I'm saying, when you get a Bryce Harper, that's the winner.
25:45
Even though he's gonna get the he's gonna get his two rings and he's
25:48
a help. But Bryce Harper is the guy you get for the winner.
25:52
You get. The show is the show, the casuals, the everything is
25:56
is Kyle Schwarber. That's the guy you because he has big, powerful homers
26:02
and they look good, don't they. Yeah, all right, we'll turn
26:07
over big Mike. Well, I think you got it right. And Jacob,
26:10
just to correct you, it's drive for the show and putt for the
26:12
dough, Putt for the dough, put for the money, the money.
26:17
But you're exactly right with Swarbur two. Hey, let's not forget. And
26:19
Jacob touched on it. This guy was an injury way away from being out
26:23
of the game, and they didn't think he was coming back for the Cubs
26:26
that year. He pushed himself. They even they had doctors saying he shouldn't
26:30
have come back that year. But he was a sparklog. Yeah he didn't
26:32
hit the bombs he did that year, but he hit he was hitting the
26:34
ball well during the playoffs for the Cubs. This isn't a surprise, but
26:37
let's not forget and Jacob touched on it. But truthfully, the whole reason
26:41
Schwarbur's doing what he's doing is because of Harper. Harper is the lightning rod
26:45
of this whole thing. When you've got Harper around pitching and Stabs are so
26:49
scared to make mistakes around him that they kind of overlook people, and Schwarber
26:53
gets that is the recipient of that. Swarber comes under the radar. His
26:56
batting average is terrible, but when you don't pay attention and you leave one
27:00
out over the plate, he's gonna eat it up, and he's gonna make
27:03
it a show. Like you said, it becomes an absolute show because when
27:07
he hits one, he's not hitting one that just barely clears the fence.
27:10
He's hitting one that he's standing at second base by the time at lands.
27:14
So Schwarber's are great, And I guess for me, Sharper comes off as
27:17
your best buddy. He comes off as the guy you knew growing up next
27:21
door that just kind of stuck around and stuck around and made a long,
27:23
a long career out of it. He's the he comes off as that guy.
27:26
Anytime they do an interview, he's always gracious. So yeah, yeah,
27:30
he's he's hitting great, and he may come up as one of the
27:32
best left handed hitters. But I do think it all revolves around. It
27:36
goes back to Harper. Harper's the spark plug. Harper gets everybody going and
27:40
everybody feeds on it. And this is just another example of that. He's
27:44
Pully from Rocky who, by the way, just passed away, just passed
27:47
away a couple of minutes ago. Yeah from Rocky, Yeah, bert YNGK,
27:52
he just passed away. Oh well that sucks. Thanks, fortunate update.
27:57
Okay, no, anyway, I want to see. Oh no,
28:02
that's okay. There you go, all right, JB. So let's just
28:04
compare them. I brought up the stats as everyone was talking. Warber hitting
28:08
a whopping two thirty nine with forty seven hits, eighteen home runs, thirty
28:14
one RBIs and thirty six runs scored a sixty postseason games. So his home
28:19
runs are useless, not even averaging two RBIs per home run. Then you
28:25
got Reggie Jackson two seventy eight, seventy eight hits, eighteen home runs,
28:29
forty eight RBIs, forty one runs in seventy seven games. And then Mickey
28:34
Mentle, the other guy with eighteen home runs, two fifty seven, fifty
28:37
nine hits, eighteen homers, forty RBIs and forty two runs scored. It's
28:41
sixty five games. You know what eighteen home runs and thirty one RBIs first
28:47
of all, is disgusting. Yeah, two thirty nine batting average is abysmal.
28:52
Never liked the guy, Never understood why they said the Cubs would be
28:53
better when he came back. He's not a good hitter. He's not mister
29:00
October. If you want to give that title to anyone plague right now that's
29:04
still in the postseason, it'd be Bryce Harper. But what he did to
29:07
Atlanta, you know, Schwarbert, like Mike said, is the beneficiary of
29:12
having Bryce Harper there. And when you only have thirteen additional RBIs on your
29:18
eighteen home runs, they're pretty useless RBIs. You know, you're not doing
29:22
much to help the team, you know, So there's not really much more
29:26
to say. He's the problem with what's wrong with major League baseball right now.
29:32
If you useless home runs, well then we'll leave it on that No,
29:37
you really feel about it, Joe feel like bands. I'll tell you
29:42
how he really feels like a man who's very rested from a great trip with
29:47
Bride in Dubai. He's had a lot of time to absorb all the sight
29:52
thing that he has. We can come on here and be the jb Ella's
29:56
that we know that we know is a brother that you know you were technically
30:00
on funded funded you know, and you're going to be one of your homework
30:04
assignments, mister ellis Is. You're going to go ahead and you're gonna have
30:07
to grade me about my JB. Ellis impersonation last Thursday on funded funded and
30:14
you can free detect me. You know how to get old of me.
30:15
So if you ever go out there and take a long trip and I'll just
30:18
see if I can improve them with my JB Ellis impersonation. So you know,
30:23
you know, all right, all right? Well you know what today
30:27
opportunity to go and visit with Dusty. Ay if you don't know by now,
30:33
this man took the Florida Atlantic University Owls to the final four, and
30:38
he was so close to taking him to the final two. So let me
30:41
preface this and then we're going to play a clip and then I want each
30:45
and every one of you guys to go out there and comment on it.
30:48
I asked him about what it's like to be respected. You know now that
30:52
nobody is You're not sneaking up on anybody. So let's just play this clip
30:56
and then we can all talk about it. Well, I know FAU is
31:02
ranked tent nationally. What's your quote on that. I know you have a
31:03
lot of schools out there where they hand out big nil money, but yet
31:07
they're ranked tenth there. People are you know, people know about you.
31:11
You're not sneaking up on anybody this year. No, And we felt like
31:15
once we became ranked anywhere, we weren't able to sneak up on people.
31:18
Last year there were. It's going to be a different levels of this upcoming
31:21
season, but we're proud of the ranking. We want to go higher.
31:22
That means more winning, and also it helps you defer, It helps you
31:26
in the sponsorship, It helps you selling tickets, it helps with everything that
31:30
our players want to do with life after basketball. So we welcome the all
31:33
of the attention as long as it doesn't attract us from what we need to
31:37
do on a data basis and bulk. All right, Well, first of
31:41
all, let me tell you right now. And I had an opportunity to
31:45
talk to Brian White, the athletic director, and then I had a one
31:48
on one with Dusty himself, and I want to just send a couple of
31:52
things about the FAU program. I had asked them, are they going to
31:56
get a bigger stadium so they could put more people in? And I'm going
31:59
to have Ryan White on a future edition of the Sports Exchange, So I'm
32:02
glad with some of the things that jb Ellis is working out that that interview
32:06
will be what it's set up, will be in its entirety via the Sports
32:09
Exchange. But what Brian White told me is they don't plan to increase the
32:15
capacity of that stadium. That if they needed a plan B to bring in
32:19
a blue blood, they would play with the Panthers Arena number one. So
32:22
with that said, you know, hey, this is an athletic program that's
32:27
come a long way. So George, what's your take on the fact that
32:30
FAUS men's basketball program is no secret anymore. I'll tell you what, Scott,
32:37
I am impressed. I'm impressed with that young man that coach, and
32:42
I am impressed with that team and what they were able to do last year.
32:45
I mean, you know, you look at situations of upstarts. It
32:50
happens all the time. We've seen it all the time. But this was
32:52
an incredible story. And the thing is is he has to preach and that's
32:59
consistency. You don't want to just go there one time. Oh yeah,
33:02
we tasted it, man, No, you got to be hungry for it
33:07
year after year and into the next season obviously. So yeah, you want
33:10
to preach consistency, and you don't want those kids to get too big ahead.
33:15
I mean, obviously, and it's tough. It's a lot of mind
33:19
games, as we know with college athletes. But no, I think they
33:22
have a bright future and I think that you know, if they wanted to
33:25
schedule a couple of games in a big city, that's cool. I mean,
33:30
we had a team here in Detroit that Dick Bytel wants coach called the
33:34
Detroit Titans the uu G University of Detroit, and what they did is they
33:38
played some of their games at Kobo Arena downtown, which some of you may
33:43
recall the former home of the Detroit Pistons. Well, Anyways, it was
33:47
a good thing. You know, they got the team off campus, but
33:50
they only took the fans back downtown and it got more exposure for by Tel
33:55
and the Titans, And maybe FAU would want to consider or something like that.
34:00
But it's to get a new stadium and to get a new arena.
34:04
I mean, that's a whole long range plan, obviously, and I hope
34:07
that the program would need that at some time. Obviously it can't happen right
34:10
now, but no, I think that was good. I'm glad you talked
34:14
to him at Media Day today. Scott. Yeah, let me tell you
34:17
they have no plans whatsoever to change the basketball facility at all. They're not
34:22
even looking to expand it. They know they have a backup plan if they
34:24
need it. Where the Panthers playing Sunrise, they don't have to do that.
34:28
In fact, the only of all the major sports there, to me,
34:32
the only place that needs a new stadium happens to be the baseball stadium.
34:37
And that'll be one of the topics gave me that I'll bring on the
34:39
Sports Exchange when I have an opportunity to talk to him. And as far
34:44
as baseball, if they have a backup plan. It's a very good one.
34:46
The spring training home of the Washington Nationals and the Astros are ball part
34:52
of the Poem Beaches, So those are suitable options. But you know,
34:57
Brian White was telling me that, you know what, Duke is in a
35:00
much better situation than North Carolina because they built an NBA salary and they only
35:05
fill it out once. I don't want to give it all the way.
35:06
Well, we're talking about Brian later, but the reality is here's a guy
35:09
here, Dusty May, who took a job and then he reconsidered it.
35:14
Now look what he's done. Yeah, So you know, now this fool
35:16
interview is in its entirety on the South Florida Tribute YouTube channel. So if
35:22
you haven't subscribed, it is on there now, please do so. All
35:25
right, So, Jacob, what are your thoughts about Dusty May? Knowing
35:30
that they're definitely not They're not anybody, They're not a basketball school. Now
35:38
people are gonna pay attention to them because I know they're going to be on
35:40
national television a lot more. Hey, big Mike, I have one question
35:45
for you. Did did you remember you remember Entourage? Oh? Yes,
35:47
absolutely? Did you? Then that looked like he got got divorced from Sloan
35:52
left Hollywood. No, but the no, but the thing is, you
36:00
talk about blue bloods, Scott, you talk about blue bloods. Correct,
36:04
it isn't This isn't that air anymore. This really isn't that ended in twenty
36:08
fifteen, truthfully with Butler, with Butler and Young basically going two in a
36:14
row. It doesn't a final four from an FAU. Used to be oh
36:20
my dear God. Used to get amazing with Cleveland State beating Indiana back in
36:23
the eighties eighty six, used to have oh my God's great and then we
36:28
had you got to remember then we no longer have the sixteen and one deal
36:31
where sixteen never won. Now you have two of them, I believe.
36:37
I think we've had two of them now, and it's like, yeah,
36:38
and you had that UNBC beating Virginia for the first one. There's no blue
36:43
blood anymore. It's like, this isn't the era of the oh, this
36:47
is the basketball school, this is anything. This isn't that air anymore.
36:51
I'm from Quincy, Illinois. We were the basketball school and the football school
36:55
won one game of year. Maybe Now they are probably number seven in the
37:00
state and they score fifty one points a game, and while their basketball team
37:06
is awesome and winning twenty eight games. So there's no such thing. Everybody's
37:09
playing their money. Everybody's putting their money out there now for everything. So
37:16
dust he may. Yeah, they're not sneaking up on anybody, but they
37:20
don't have to. No one sneaks up of anyone anymore. No one is
37:22
a blue blood. Kentucky's had a couple of two bad years in there.
37:28
It's like you're getting Anaia schools beating these big time quote unquote blue bloods on
37:31
the road. They're beating them in their own home stadium. That happened a
37:36
couple of years ago with Syracuse. We've got to get an understanding that this
37:40
is such a different sports world now, and these athletes are everywhere. They're
37:45
You used to have it where, oh you had some decent athletes and AIA
37:49
blah blah blah. Then there was levels. There's not just levels anymore.
37:52
Everybody's got the highest level. Well, let me tell you this about Florida
37:55
Atlantic. Okay, number one, they don't mind investing in a good code.
38:00
The three they had there now. John McCormack, to me's a best
38:02
kept secret on the planet comes to baseball, and prior to that you had
38:06
Kevin Cooney. Tom Herman's great. He just really is. I mean,
38:10
in fact, I know he's in my book for Crannell. I only know
38:14
this guy a few months. He's that good. And Dusty May what can
38:16
you say? I mean a good one liner by the way, Dusty May,
38:20
what can you say? But you know, here's a guy to me
38:23
that you know he knows what he's talking about. But bear in mind he
38:27
came from the University of Florida before he took on this job, so you
38:30
know he knows what it's like to I think Gator fans are probably wondering why
38:35
is he not the coach instead of who we have now. I won't get
38:37
into that, but boy, you talk about I'll find at FAE Dusty May?
38:40
Is that all right? Pig Mike? Well, let's be honest.
38:45
The college landscape, not just basketball. What is what changed the college landscape
38:49
other than the nil it's the transfer port. You never saw guys from blue
38:53
blood schools, as you call it, transferring out. You've got two guys
38:57
that were starting on North Carolina last year that are not going to come back
39:00
to Carolina this year and that entered the transfer portal. The transfer portal has
39:04
changed college basketball a lot more than a lot of people think. These guys
39:07
that were sitting on the bench were number one kids through high school, number
39:10
one kids at the McDonald's All American Game, but can't crack the starting eight
39:15
or the top eighth this school. They go to another program. It takes
39:17
that program from being a mid level program to a high level program themselves.
39:22
Right, and what Florida? What fau striving for? Let's be honest.
39:25
The gold standard right now in college basketball. Aren't the blue bloods. It's
39:30
one team for consistency. Can anybody guess who that one team the last twenty
39:35
years consistently is. It's Gonzaga. Gonzaga is the exact blueprint what everybody wants.
39:40
Gonzaga is there every year. They're consistent every year. Yeah, they
39:45
haven't won one. They haven't been able to get over that hump. But
39:47
I'll tell you what a fan base, a college basketball fanatic like myself,
39:52
I'll take somebody who's in the Big Dance every year, getting to the Elite
39:57
eight, the Final four and having a chance at it. Azag has been
40:00
able to do that, and I think that's the blueprint that May's looking for.
40:02
May's smart enough. You know what I'll tell you. I love the
40:06
fact that he's not gonna They're not gonna add more seats. You know why.
40:08
I want that building. I want that building like Cameron. I want
40:13
that building small. I want that building packed wall to wall with my fans.
40:16
I don't want a bunch of people being able to buy tickets from out
40:20
of state, out of city to come in and infiltrate. I want people
40:22
to walk into my building and feel it rumbling from my fans. So I
40:27
applaud him for that. Now, will the program get big enough that they
40:30
have to do something? Maybe get a big deal and go go play in
40:34
a neutral site once twice a year a get some bigger teams. Great,
40:37
But until that happens, build the program, be consistent, get to that
40:40
level that they everybody knows you're coming every year. Yeah, they had their
40:45
coming out party average last year. Hey, great, you're in the top
40:47
ten. You're coming into tenth. The expectations are there, but they're not.
40:51
You know, you're not in the top four, top five right now,
40:53
which sets yourself up for a drop. I think it's amazing. I
40:57
think what their building's great, and I think the college landscape in general,
41:00
and like Jacob said, the blue bloods, they don't exist anymore their names.
41:06
I'll be honest, I'm a big Carolina honk myself. I love UNC,
41:08
but Caroline is not what they once were. They didn't make it last
41:12
year, and then they turned down an invite to NIT, Like, who
41:15
do you think you are? You're not good enough that you turned down an
41:19
invitation to a national tournament. I mean, I can't even imagine twenty years
41:22
ago if you'd heard a school like Michigan or UNLV not making not only not
41:27
making the tournament, but then turning down a bid to the NIT on top
41:30
of it. It was a disgrace. So the college basketball landscape, just
41:34
like the rest of college sports, has changed, and it's great. As
41:37
a fan. You gotta love this era college sports because the parody's coming with
41:42
the transfer portal, the NIL is gonna shift around, and yeah, you're
41:45
gonna have some schools they're gonna have an advantage because they have more money.
41:46
That's boosters more than anything else. But in a general sense, top to
41:51
bottom college sports is gonna be better because of the transfer portal for the next
41:55
twenty thirty years. Hey, big Mike, let me ask you a quick
41:58
question before I tore it on. JB. You're located in Sacramento, Is
42:00
that right? Yes? I could have sworn you were in Booker a time
42:05
with me because I got news for you. Brian White and Dustie May were
42:07
saying the same things that you just echoed there. And by the way,
42:12
a little footnote on Gonzaga. I read today that there's a chance that they
42:15
can end up in the Big twelve playing basketball as well. So we're not
42:20
going to get into that, but that just bullshs what you're saying and makes
42:22
it even more valid. Okay, JB, you've got a lot. Last
42:24
word. I know we have to get you out of here in a few
42:27
minutes, so go ahead. The floor's yours. Yeah, I mean,
42:30
you know, it's it's impressive when you see these smaller schools that are in
42:36
the big conferences put together a team that goes in a run the first year,
42:42
but what they do in a second time, that's when you start to
42:45
say that they have the right people in place, and it wasn't a fluke
42:50
that they know how to recruit the guys and build build a team at a
42:53
system and put everything together. Now, I mean, what's been done a
42:58
good Zaga that's special in itself. Yeah, they have it win a championship.
43:04
But you know, I'm a Saint John's fan. If we can if
43:07
we could do that. The first of all, the fact that Gonzaga could
43:10
do that a small Catholic university. Meanwhile, Saint John's, who plays home
43:15
games at Madison Square Garden, the mecca basketball in the biggest city of the
43:20
world, can't put together, you know, consistently going to the NCAA Tournament,
43:24
let alone the Sweet sixteen, the Big eighth, to Final four.
43:29
You know. But you have a team out in the middle of nowhere at
43:31
a smaller university that's done this for how long. That's impressive. So,
43:37
I mean what's being doug right now is phenomenal with Dustin May now to continue
43:43
it, that's the hard part. It's not an easy process because recruiting with
43:47
nil and everything else, and the transfer portal, it's it's insane. The
43:52
work that's put into it by the college coaches and ads and you know,
43:59
try to get all these pieces together. It's it's impressive. When you have
44:02
a smaller school that could do this. The key is finding the right guys
44:07
as freshmen and sophomores that aren't on the radar, and so you could keep
44:12
them and hopefully they don't transfer out, and if they do, you find
44:15
a couple other more freshmen than sophomores that you can keep because you're not going
44:21
to get the transfers because they're going to go to the schools that can get
44:24
the nil or where they're going to get more playing time. I mean,
44:28
for example, again using Saint John's, Rick Petito with Tyota because I guess
44:32
he needed someplace to coach. He didn't want to just relax, and then
44:36
he came to Saint John's. He took all his best players from my ownA
44:39
and iona, you know, what are they going to do now? They
44:43
had to go out and recruit it and build a whole new process. So
44:46
it's it's just the way that the system is set up with parody right now.
44:52
If you could get the right the right young guys and recruit properly,
44:55
you could be good. But it just takes a lot of work and there's
45:00
a lot of cohesion that has to go into it, and you have to
45:04
understand if you get a guy that's a top player and you're one of these
45:07
smaller schools, they're probably not going to be there four years. You know,
45:12
the best players that the best schools are at stay in four years.
45:15
You know, it's just they're going to the pros and at the lower level,
45:19
the lower schools, they're going to go to a bigger school where they
45:22
can get an al buddy and you know, b C more on ESPN or
45:27
wherever. You know, games are a CBS. You want to know if
45:30
I was to do I, if I was to do let's at cuaa Division
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one coaching, you don't know what nowhere? I'd want to go Campbell Campbell
45:39
University. And as I mean, I want to do that, there's gym's
45:43
about that small. Gym's about that small. It's one of the smallest Division
45:46
one schools. But at least I know darn done well. My thought process
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and when they're going to the portal is based off of their just trying to
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go to the bigger school and not trying to get the nil money. At
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least them would have a chance to coach, try to just recruit and try
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to get the next guy I'd want other than that. I would just want
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to go to a junior college or something, or just say that's the I
46:08
have a chance of coaching and teaching these kids. That's what I want.
46:13
It'd be so hard now you're not getting anywhere now when there's when basically they
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are the boss. All right, me let me add this, And I
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know, Mike cast somebody want to say, give me a second. All
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right, Mike, coaching, continuity and cohesion of the three season this case.
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Okay, we know that Dusty May is a good coach. Continuity,
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being able to keep a lot of these guys buying into the fact they can
46:31
play two or three years and not worry about losing their scholarship. And then
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cohesion. Those are the key things. And I've spoken to them a couple
46:37
of times. I'm getting the vibe from him that's what he's looking to do.
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So good point, JB. I just want to add those other two
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words. All right, Mike, you have last word on this. We
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want to get JB over to his next show, but I want to make
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sure everybody has an opportunity to identify themselves, to get say what they want
46:52
to say on this final topic. Go ahead, Mike, And just to
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add an add something, the JD's exactly correct. If they are building the
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program they are, this is the big year for them because it does what
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JB said. If they are consistent, If they do make the tournament and
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they at least win a round or two in the tournament, that legitimizes what
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they did this year. You're right. If they don't and they have a
47:13
massive dip, yeah that's gonna that's gonna hurt them. But if they can
47:15
show, hey, we are building this program, we're gonna be a consistent
47:20
winner, then that's exactly a JB. The portal will open up bigger for
47:22
them. They will get some of these guys that, hey, you know
47:25
what, I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna make my name on a team
47:28
where I know I'm gonna get some extra playing time. So yeah, year
47:30
two, this for mister May and the follow up year to what they did
47:34
last This year is gonna be fun to watch and I really hope they can
47:39
continue the success and we get to see FAU on the map for a long
47:43
time to come. Yeah. The one thing they won't have to worry about
47:45
in this year's tournament, should they get there is eliminating first number one.
47:49
They got their first win, and then they got to their first Final Four.
47:52
So now at this point they're just padding what they're already doing. I'll
47:57
be getting to some games this year at some point during the season. I
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don't know when, depending on our schedule here, but I'm looking forward to
48:02
seeing what they're doing there. And again, I've had an opportunity to get
48:06
to know Dustin May since the Final Four and then picking up on it today,
48:09
and I'm amazed at some of the things I'm saying. But I'm going
48:13
to see it on the basketball court, and then in future opportunities I'll be
48:16
able to speak to them more and more. We'll insert more and more eclips
48:20
as we have along. So great show tonight, JB. We're glad you're
48:22
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48:27
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48:30
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48:32
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50:53
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51:00
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