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The Pacers Report with Mike Rich & Will Retherford (Aug. 11, 2025; Podcast 350.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_02]: What you are listening to now is the central Indian.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A sports report podcast number three hundred and fifty point one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Pacers report with Mike Whitrich and Will Rutherford.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This week talking about Caitlyn Cooper's conversation with Rick Carlio and the importance of Ben Madheron and Jaris Walker coming up next season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Plus tons of disagreements.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to believe with well-being here that we have from disagreements and tons of laughs and lots of other stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Enjoy!
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're listening to the central Indiana Sports Report with your host, Greg Mangal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome, Pacers fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host, Greg Mangal out here at the Elwood Golf Course on Tuesdays, talking some Indiana Pacers with our Pacers guy, Mike Rich, and Will Rutherford of the Will Rutherford Show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not a lot of news going on, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: our favorite podcast or Caitlin Cooper had coach Rick Carlisle on her podcast and he had a lot of interesting things to say so we wanted to have a paces report this week despite really no paces news.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well I mean there was news like I mean it he was kind of rather candid about I mean basically question she actually he did not really deflect at all he answered everything I mean pretty much straight up so
2:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that there's a lot to dissect as far as what next year looks like from what he talked about.
2:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm super excited about next year and see how things turn out.
2:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he called it was random play and he really focused on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really the best way to play basketball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I mean, we're definitely going to be random next year who don't know who's really going to be playing.
2:27
[SPEAKER_03]: We think Madden will probably hit the starting line up from what it sounded like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently we know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's his delus.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think what Carlisle said is he's calling him and told him it's your position to lose that number two spot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But last year in the year before we're kind of his position to lose to and he lost it.
2:47
[SPEAKER_02]: This year seems to be different.
2:49
[SPEAKER_02]: He was spectacular in game seven of the finals almost by himself tried to bring the team back.
2:55
[SPEAKER_02]: He and TJ McConnell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: guy who can really score and without Haliburton probably becomes the focus of your offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think Mike?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they do have to have a focus on matter because he can create his own shot and he him with Siakum and TJ McConnell and Nim Hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're going to need him to step up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But matter is probably the only potential.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me say that potential elite score of the bunch, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: On a consistent basis.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he could be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess it's what you define as a lead score.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would say as far as just ethical getting buckets, see, I'll come as up there with some of the best bucket getters in the league from all three levels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, madden can be that without question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has to be that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would like to push back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's
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[SPEAKER_01]: been a little less of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Madder and losing the job and like nim hard just kind of taking the job and neesmith just kind of taking a job like it's like they played so well that it just was and I think with the way the rotation was last year made since have been off the bench.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it made since I mean it's not to say that he's it was a little odd though in the finals that he was some games playing nine minutes, fourteen minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a defensive liability.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they needed defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They needed to have niece Smith and not McConnell necessarily as much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They needed Nim hard and niece Smith to be on the floor as much as possible defensively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, he just kind of solves way out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a good defensive player really for any capacity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not really a good off-ball on-ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: What he is is a score.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just a pure bucket getter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of what he is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're gonna need somebody to get twenty five points plus a game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I put the over under twenty one and a half, what would you guys say?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Under.
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[SPEAKER_02]: slightly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His average for the season I'll say over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'll be right around twenty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you could go twenty four.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that he's going to be the focus of scoring the basketball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nim hard is going to be the focus of the offense, but as far as being an elite score, I think it's going to be a lot of matter and a lot of Siocca.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It depends on how, you know, niece myth and Nim hard
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[SPEAKER_01]: This significant time both last year and the regular season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think of their healthy that number could drop just a little bit his average just because by simple nature they're going to get theirs as well like you know you chalk up nim hard and neismeth for probably twenty four game between the two of them averaging and if you know if they're on maybe matter and doesn't just doesn't get as many shots maybe two less shots a game where you see that average take a little bit but
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, the center is going to play a huge role as far as the scoring, I think, make up, because depending on who it is, I mean, you might have to depend on Siocam and Madarin both for a twenty-two to twenty-two.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I think the Overs, because I don't, I think I say a Jackson's a whole different player than Miles Turner.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's not going to be shooting three points.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you're taking somebody a scoring, eighteen points a game from Miles Turner to probably somebody's going to score ten, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so those shots are gonna go somewhere else.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm hoping that they're going to Madden and I'm hoping Jackson's rebounding and you know, pushing them all back out to Madden for a second shot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think God, he will not be standing out at the three point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, I mean, I still, I'm not convinced Jay Huff won't start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still, I think early in the early going, I think there's a solid chance Jay Huff starts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the first twelve games just getting Jackson's feet back underneath him after the Achilles injury, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: You may not like to hear it, but I definitely think it's a possibility.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And have my ticket tickets chance at that starting roll if he comes out those first ten to twelve games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, it'll be different next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That might be what the offense calls for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not what it called for last year.
6:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want to continue to slight my miles turner, but you weren't here for the last one.
7:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Your thoughts right now about miles turner.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's the enemy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At bottom line, I hope he becomes a friend in the future and I hope he retires, you know, and comes back to the Pacers and some capacity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he spent ten, ten solid years here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Love him personally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope he never wins a game in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was also not on the last one either.
7:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't that one never fault him for going and getting his money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's that's his generational wealth.
7:39
[SPEAKER_01]: He just acquired again for his family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the last contract he's probably going to be able to cash in a hundred plus million.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He went and got it with that being said it's a horrible signing by Milwaukee is he's going to be the anchor that seeks them down the same way that he was the anchor that sunk them the Pacers into not winning the NBA finals.
7:58
[SPEAKER_01]: If there's an upgrade at center,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the paces are flat out just a better team than the thunder are and I've just turned or was a complete liability essentially that entire series he couldn't have hit water if he fell of a boat.
8:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I have I wasn't a huge mile sooner than a family was with the paces.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care they're in bucks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I make a great guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We all love that he represented Indian Indianapolis and Indian well blah blah blah getting out of town.
8:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it like his jersey's not going to get retired.
8:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He was he was good.
8:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He was good.
8:34
[SPEAKER_01]: He was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he might be better.
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[SPEAKER_03]: being in Milwaukee.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he hurt Milwaukee bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm happy he went there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he cripples Milwaukee.
8:49
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that helps the Pacers and a down year with I mean, I think we'll easily compete against Milwaukee.
8:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's I just he was
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[SPEAKER_01]: just not somebody that I thought was like oh my god look at my last turn I mean how lucky are the Indiana Pacers to get to be his home I mean Turner was here for ten years they were okay
9:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was just okay.
9:20
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he's always been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I hate that he's like taking on this heel persona and stuff.
9:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was just something like, you know, triple H drawn something up in the WWE, you know, where we have this heel turn for mild turns.
9:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not a heel dude.
9:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not anizer guy in the NBA.
9:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, seriously, you're a baby face, stay one.
9:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't need to be like, oh, I'm the Pacers enemy now.
9:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Like acknowledge the time that you have the Pacers enemy now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I acknowledge the time that you had with them and say, hey, I had to do what's best for my family.
9:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the Pacers were that interested in signing them back anyway.
9:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Pricerd did a wonderful gamesmanship in saying that, you know, Milwaukee told Turner, this is a raw for take it or it's off the table.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great games and ship as far as getting the final bite.
10:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know any interest in him.
10:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know either and that's why it's just it's business at the end of the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just business and he went to what he was the best fit and he made a rival worse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing that explains the way things went down with him not even contacting them to try to outbid Milwaukee is because they made it clear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had no interest in him coming back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would have been a bad move.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bring him back.
10:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the last eight years, they've been on the trading block.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's always, you know, rumored to be the one player that was going to be traded or packaged to be traded.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If it was the Lakers or somewhere, you know, because he's a good piece if you're the right team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is not Milwaukee.
10:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He only does this get in the way if you're on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was right that
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[SPEAKER_01]: that the Pacers chose to bonus overturned because I don't think they get halibut and return for miles turn.
10:58
[SPEAKER_01]: They got it for Domoss and that was awesome.
11:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just, it's just the way the business is run.
11:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm never going to fault Kevin Pritchard.
11:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty much on his side.
11:11
[SPEAKER_01]: No matter what he does, I think he's a brilliant executive.
11:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And any sport, I think he transcends just being a great GM and basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he, he's just a really good GM everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This team is still going to compete for the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're sealing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Eastern Conference Finals, if everything goes right.
11:32
[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably not gonna, at second rounds realistic, I think they can win around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna be a top-four team in the East, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If things went perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, and I've listened to some of the other, you know, with John on and stuff and just other conversations and it's like, you know, we assume when we talk about the pace, there's being like the seventh, they've best team.
11:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, we're also assuming everything goes right with the match.
11:54
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
11:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We're everything goes right with these other franchises.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not gonna go well for Atlanta or Atlanta or Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not all of them.
12:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not
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[SPEAKER_01]: ever going to go perfect for anyone.
12:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're we're another, um, you know, Paolo injury away from the magic being not existing again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just that simple.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when you're talking about the magic that don't make sense.
12:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
12:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just the Pacers.
12:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm sure I don't know how Mike feels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that this is still a playoff team.
12:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I think, yeah, I think this was a playoff team.
12:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we picked how many games they were going to win and I think, you know, forty-four.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's forty-two to forty-eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thirty-eight and a half was the line, which was too outrageously low.
12:37
[SPEAKER_01]: That feels like just easy money, but then again, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Siakum goes down and then all of a sudden.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden, we're looking at like, okay, thirty-eight's probably where we want to be.
12:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's going to be the number one pick?
12:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's too much, but still, they are a bad injury away from just not being able to compete, which is why not signing Turner and leaving yourself that flexibility made sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It makes total sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they wanted Turner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they preferred the flexibility over Turner.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think they want to control the locker room, and I think Carlisle got the right personalities in there to keep the core of this team together.
13:22
[SPEAKER_03]: This whole year, they played for each other, they had each other's back, they rooted for each other.
13:29
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that Halberton's injured, but he's not out.
13:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he will be in that locker room, he will be at every game, he will be inspirational to that team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's a leader of those men and you know, it's shown and what he's done.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He does in the community where he shows up.
13:52
[SPEAKER_03]: He shows up to all types of different events in Indianapolis.
13:57
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's at Colts of Vance.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's at the fever events and he's fun and real.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The G league.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like anything I've ever seen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you can tell it's genuine that they like each other, that they want to hang outside of their professional jobs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, LeBron James couldn't even go to look at Donchett's signing like everybody else on the team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The two people that don't show up is LeBron and his son.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, what's that say to your team?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Haliburton is that type of leader where he is going to be there for his team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think chemistry and chemistry control that Carlisle has is just phenomenal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're lucky to have Haliburton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're already talking about maybe the greatest pace of our all time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And especially if he recovers from this and we know that twenty seven twenty eight twenty nine the paces are going to win all those championships.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We understand that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This coming season though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How much of it hinges on Jared Walker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If we're betting on Jaros Walker being the reason this team's good then boy, we're in for what a view than maybe they win forty five games that a forty four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I mean, I just I've been you're seeing the potential there was way higher on I've been steadfast that I thought that he was a bad draft pick and I I just don't think he's gonna end up being that good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's gonna end up being telling why he's wrong my
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like Harris Walker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Harris Walker could potentially
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[SPEAKER_03]: He could be somebody that puts us over that forty-five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He could be the second best player on this team two years from now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a lot of potential.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, there's not a snowball chance in hell.
15:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, is he still about to be a senior in college, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.
15:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's also a lot of problems.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of instincts, a lot of basketball IQ.
15:54
[SPEAKER_02]: He passes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's incredible passer.
15:57
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... and he somebody also can bring the ball he play for the fan he plays me animals the ball there's a lot of all he re-bounds potential elite defender i hope he turns into like raw test we'll see i hope i hope that's what he is i thought when when they did the siakum trade it made jaris a slightly redundant because i kind of filled jaris's role with siakum which
16:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I think right now I'm still taking Pascal the next four years over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking over Walker for the next four years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I still don't feel like in retrospect, he'll be a good trade piece.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pulling this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pulling this for when he's in the all-star game two years from now.
16:42
[SPEAKER_03]: He said walkers in the all-star game and I'm not predicting it, but I hope he's in the all-star game next year if he's going to be a piece that's going to be coming off the bench next year.
16:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He is yet to prove me right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So until that happens, I have to still go with what I've said the whole time, which is that he is a role player at best and you hope that he gets better than that.
17:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Of our prospectors sitting on the bench, he's got to be the best.
17:08
[SPEAKER_02]: What about Johnny Furfie?
17:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you off on a joke?
17:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I love Johnny Furfie.
17:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I love Johnny Furfie.
17:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I want Johnny Furfie.
17:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's my guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here would be my slight rebuttal to the Walker love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
17:22
[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, you already saw way more from matter in a nim hard as far as what their future was than you see from Jared's Walker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mother and also spent three years in college.
17:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Nim hard spent four years in college.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Walker's not even that age that they were drafted yet.
17:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still, he's wrong.
17:42
[SPEAKER_01]: He's, he's, he's Anthony Richardson.
17:45
[SPEAKER_01]: There's wait, there's two ways it goes.
17:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's either going to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
17:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I just tend to think that that's going to be the other way.
17:51
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got the instincts, man.
17:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's got that it.
17:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And he tears up the G league.
17:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I mean, that's, that's great.
17:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Brawney tears up the G league.
17:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he does.
17:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he does.
18:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he does.
18:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he has a twenty game that last half this season.
18:06
[SPEAKER_02]: If you only listen to one Pacer's podcast, make sure that it's the Pacer's report with Mike Rich.
18:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, no.
18:13
[SPEAKER_02]: If you only listen to one Pacer's podcast, listen to Caitlin Cooper's.
18:17
[SPEAKER_02]: She is that good.
18:18
[SPEAKER_02]: If you listen to two, then listen to the Pacer's report with Mike Rich.
18:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you want just basketball nerd out, sure, but if you want entertainment and like listening and being like, you know, not have to like get your calculus.
18:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm a basketball nerd though, so her podcast just does it for me.
18:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I've, it's a niche that people in Indiana love because this is a basketball during state that love to break down the, the ends and outsiex and those of the game.
18:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think it's, but with that being said, there's also,
18:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the most entertaining.
18:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not one of those things that you have in the background and you're You're going to turn it on and you're it's going to be like having like swan lake on behind or it's like, you know, this is nice, but it could be better.
19:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I could have pitball on behind me and we are pitball and that's what we want to be we want to be entertaining
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[SPEAKER_02]: Could we be outcasts for the people?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you want to talk about one of the greatest and most influential rap groups of all time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to hear the outcast of podcasting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Andre, three thousand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My baby don't mess a big boy's better than Andre.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, now you're just once again just Greg Mingle talking completely out of his ass.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So fresh and so clean clean.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so much to Mike Rich and Will Rutherford for joining me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And to you for listening, we have a Pacer Report every week during the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll probably be a while for we have another one now because there's not a lot of Pacer's news until October.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But anytime anything happens, you can count on Mike and Will and I talking about it and probably some others as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got a big knowledgeable crew.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, please share this podcast with a pacer's fan in your life and help spread the word that the Central Indiana Sports Report is here talking about Central Indiana Sports every single day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In forty-nine states is just basketball, but this is in the end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The central Indiana Sports Report is a product of ITG media.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I love Susie.