Latest / Yankees Pod / Yankees Pod With Frank The Tank & Joba Chamberlain

Transcript

Yankees Pod With Frank The Tank & Joba Chamberlain · Yankees Pod

0:35
SPEAKER_01: Okay, we are live.
0:36
SPEAKER_01: This is Yes Hive.
0:39
SPEAKER_01: As always, we are joined by 2009 World Series champion, Java Chamberlain, and we have a very, very, very special guest today.
0:51
SPEAKER_01: You know him if you live on the internet.
0:54
SPEAKER_01: From Arsenal Sports, Frank the Tank Lemmy.
0:57
SPEAKER_01: Frank, how you doing today?
0:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm doing alright.
1:00
SPEAKER_01: Just alright today?
1:02
SPEAKER_01: Alright, well, we'll get into it.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: Jabba, why don't you lead us off?
1:05
SPEAKER_00: Frank, what's up, man?
1:06
SPEAKER_00: I haven't seen you in a while.
1:07
SPEAKER_00: How you been?
1:08
SPEAKER_00: I've been doing well, doing well, been very busy.
1:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
1:12
SPEAKER_00: Do you ever get time just to relax at home?
1:15
SPEAKER_02: Uh not really.
1:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm always doing something.
1:19
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
1:21
SPEAKER_02: All my sport uh top baseball sets in the binders right now.
1:25
SPEAKER_02: So uh if I'm relaxing, I'm doing that.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's well, that's a project in itself, Frank.
1:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, you know, uh, they're both a mess right now.
1:35
SPEAKER_00: And with uh obviously the press conference that Hal and Cash did today, and the way the season ended, and the way the season ended.
1:44
SPEAKER_02: Four years.
1:45
SPEAKER_02: Four more years.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: You ain't lying, man.
1:48
SPEAKER_00: Run it back with the same thing.
1:49
SPEAKER_02: Like at a certain point, you just gotta question what's going on with it with the Yankees.
1:55
SPEAKER_02: You know, uh it to me, they got the talent.
1:59
SPEAKER_02: It just every year it just seems like they just lose focus, and you you have a manager that doesn't have any the he doesn't motivate them, he doesn't uh get them to the next level, and you and you you get you gotta change something at a certain point.
2:13
SPEAKER_02: They got the players to do it, they they just cannot put it all together, and then you watch games like game two in the division series where they have four hours in the first inning.
2:25
SPEAKER_00: In like the first five pitches.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: Uh I I mean uh it's bad.
2:32
SPEAKER_01: It's bad right now.
2:32
SPEAKER_01: Frank, I have a question for you.
2:35
SPEAKER_01: Who's a bigger mess right now?
2:37
SPEAKER_01: The Yankees or the Mets?
2:39
SPEAKER_01: Oh, the Mets.
2:42
SPEAKER_02: Uh I mean, uh uh I'm I'm personally afraid of what David Stearns is gonna do next.
2:48
SPEAKER_01: How do you how do you feel about the new manager?
2:51
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, he didn't even he didn't even want to manage anymore.
2:54
SPEAKER_02: How did he go from not wanting to manage to now being the manager for the next three years?
2:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
3:00
SPEAKER_00: How much of Cohen do you think has a say in that or like is Stearns the end all that meet out with that?
3:07
SPEAKER_02: Uh it seems like Stearns has too much uh say, and it he's got and all he does is do and all he does is rely on analytics.
3:15
SPEAKER_02: They don't rely on real stats.
3:17
SPEAKER_02: They don't rely on uh uh the philosophy of the Mets is don't rely on batting average, it's overrated.
3:25
SPEAKER_02: Don't rely on RBIs, it's overrated.
3:27
SPEAKER_02: Don't rely on home runs, it's overrated.
3:29
SPEAKER_02: But if you look but if someone's batting 220 and has a good ex-woba, he's probably a better player.
3:36
SPEAKER_00: Right.
3:37
SPEAKER_00: You talked about the manager from the Mets, obviously, going from not wanting to manage to managing.
3:42
SPEAKER_00: Well, like you said, four more years.
3:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, the the Yeah, well he was uh Boone's protege, so yeah, yeah.
3:47
SPEAKER_02: I knew as soon as they hired him, it was a bad choice.
3:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's it's interesting too with with the managers coming back.
3:54
SPEAKER_00: What do you think like the potential lockout has to do with any of this and like decisions that are gonna be made in the offseason?
4:02
SPEAKER_02: Uh I think the lockout's gonna have a lot to do with it.
4:05
SPEAKER_02: Uh I I I've noticed that no managers are being moved around anymore.
4:09
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the mariners uh are looking for a new manager, but that's about it.
4:13
SPEAKER_02: There's not many jobs opening.
4:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it seems like the lockout really has affected the manager.
4:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh like, and again, Frank, this is what happens.
4:23
SPEAKER_01: Aaron, Aaron Boone is back another year.
4:26
SPEAKER_02: Just because oh, they're gonna use the lockout as an excuse.
4:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what's gonna happen in November.
4:31
SPEAKER_02: I I I I don't know how the owners are gonna play it for November.
4:36
SPEAKER_02: Are they gonna try to make moves to prepare?
4:40
SPEAKER_02: Are any of these is Scuble gonna sign before December 2nd?
4:45
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's it we are we're heading into an area of uh no man's land.
4:53
SPEAKER_02: And um because I think this lockout is going to greatly affect the season next year.
5:01
SPEAKER_02: I think we're not gonna have baseball to June 1st.
5:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that seems uh uh Jab and I talked about it last week.
5:09
SPEAKER_01: We were saying like July at least, maybe, but um, yeah, June, June is pretty great call, and I fully expect that.
5:16
SPEAKER_01: And you'll hear me ranting about uh uh getting replacement players in there so we don't have to deal with these divas, but um, yeah, I don't know.
5:26
SPEAKER_01: Who whose side are you on?
5:27
SPEAKER_01: The players or the owners right now?
5:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, basically, they they they don't enforce the tax.
5:34
SPEAKER_02: If they let the Dodgers get away with what they get away with with the uh the circumventing it with the uh deferred contracts, then the tax isn't working.
5:42
SPEAKER_02: The tax should be able to work enough.
5:45
SPEAKER_02: But the the salary floor is just gonna be a salary floor.
5:49
SPEAKER_02: So now you're gonna if you if you put the salary floor at a hundred million, say the teams that don't spend are gonna spend at 100 million.
5:57
SPEAKER_02: They're never gonna go above the salary floor.
5:59
SPEAKER_02: Those are the problems.
6:01
SPEAKER_02: Those are the yeah, you're telling me and I and I and he's the guy I just like to take the most shots at because they have the best situation outside of how bad they are.
6:13
SPEAKER_02: And that's the Pirates.
6:15
SPEAKER_02: They play in a beautiful ballpark.
6:18
SPEAKER_02: They have a fan base that's hungry for a winner, that has done nothing for the last 30 years since they lost that heartbreaking game on uh the the Francisco Cambreras hits.
6:30
SPEAKER_02: And they don't re-sign anybody, they don't sign anybody, don't uh I mean they don't keep anybody, everyone's gone.
6:40
SPEAKER_02: Garrett Cole, as soon as he became free agent, gone.
6:43
SPEAKER_02: McCutcheon, as soon as he became a free agent, gone.
6:46
SPEAKER_02: They don't re-sign anybody, they don't keep anybody, they they sign the the lowest level contracts, they play, but they play in a jewel of a ballpark.
6:55
SPEAKER_02: You know, if if there was justice in sports, the uh pirates would have the Tampa Bay Rays success and the and the pirates would be playing in the in that glorified Costco called Tropicana Field.
7:11
SPEAKER_00: Frank, do you think this, like talking about the lockout and all that, do you think this World Series having not huge markets and low payrolls is gonna help or hurt talks going into the potential lockout?
7:28
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it it gives the uh gives the owner, it gives the players some more uh uh arsenal gives them more uh talking points and and uh makes the uh owners look stupid trying to say uh hey, you know, we uh we can't compete.
7:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, then how come the uh Milwaukee Brewers and Tampa Bay Rays are in the World Series?
7:50
SPEAKER_02: The World Series matchup plays into the players' hands.
7:54
SPEAKER_02: It couldn't be better.
7:56
SPEAKER_02: And and you can see the groans from Fox.
7:58
SPEAKER_02: Fox, you can Fox is almost like, do we have to show this World Series?
8:02
SPEAKER_02: Uh it's not like Joe Davis wanted to cry when the Dodgers were l lost and uh got swept by the Brewers.
8:08
SPEAKER_02: And there are two fan bases that deserve a winner.
8:11
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Milwaukee's been suffering a lot longer.
8:14
SPEAKER_02: Um uh I mean Tampa, you know, Tampa's got a lot of hate because they play in a dump of a stadium that's in a bad location for fans getting to games.
8:26
SPEAKER_02: But you they've uh they've been loud.
8:28
SPEAKER_02: I mean, uh they they certainly silenced the Yankees.
8:32
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I thought the Yankees would go into Tampa and quiet that crowd.
8:36
SPEAKER_02: You hear a lot more Yankee fans, but the Tampa's been loud the whole series.
8:39
SPEAKER_02: Uh Junior Camonero with his uh six-minute uh you know.
8:46
SPEAKER_00: I did you Frank, did you see they went uh with Chandler Simpson?
8:51
SPEAKER_00: How many Simpsons could you fit in Camanero's own run trying?
8:56
SPEAKER_02: I I I wish we still had some old school baseball.
9:00
SPEAKER_02: Because next time when Junior Camanero comes up next year, somebody he ha he has to.
9:08
SPEAKER_02: You had to put it in his ribs.
9:10
SPEAKER_02: You had to put it right in his rib cage.
9:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I mean okay, okay.
9:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm happy for you.
9:15
SPEAKER_02: You celebrate it, but you bring back the old school like baseball, like baseball justice.
9:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can celebrate like that, but you're gonna get baseball justice.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: And I I missed that.
9:25
SPEAKER_02: That old baseball justice.
9:28
SPEAKER_01: Fair.
9:29
SPEAKER_01: Um, Frank, the Yankees had a press conference today, and it was via Zoom.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts on that?
9:45
SPEAKER_00: I Frank, did you see it?
9:46
SPEAKER_00: Like, I want to know what was on Cashman's iPad.
9:51
SPEAKER_02: I I don't know, but I saw somebody put make a prediction for their Yankee press conference of all the talking points.
9:59
SPEAKER_02: And it was kind of like you could play Yankee bingo.
10:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, he said that.
10:02
SPEAKER_02: He said that.
10:04
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they could have just uh they could have just put bots out there.
10:07
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it could, for all we know, it could just be AI videos because the Yankees don't say anything else different.
10:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it really is it really is crazy when it it's and you know I saw you tweet out the meme of Frank Costanza saying that Aaron Boone is gonna be next uh to to get extended.
10:27
SPEAKER_01: Do you really believe that?
10:29
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah.
10:30
SPEAKER_02: I I I firmly believe that Aaron Boone's gonna get an extension within the next week.
10:35
SPEAKER_02: He's not gonna go into next year with a one-year contract.
10:38
SPEAKER_02: He's probably gonna get a two or three year extension.
10:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if that happens, that's gonna be tough.
10:43
SPEAKER_01: Jabba, go ahead.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: Wow, Frank.
10:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean, really, okay, so I wondered this too.
10:49
SPEAKER_00: You may know this better than I do.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's just say we don't get baseball until June or July.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: And say, let's just say it goes to the end.
10:59
SPEAKER_00: Does that contract still like is that the end of it, even though they didn't play, or does he get another year, or is that why you're saying he gets the extension?
11:09
SPEAKER_02: That's a good question.
11:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh I know in hockey, uh that that's gonna be that's actually probably gonna be collectively bargained.
11:19
SPEAKER_02: That may not that may that that may not that might be something that's open and collectively bargained whether or not those contracts are still are good.
11:29
SPEAKER_02: I know when the NHL had their loss season in uh 2004-2005, a lot of players did not come out come back.
11:39
SPEAKER_02: Like I think Marc Messier retired, but then again he's old.
11:43
SPEAKER_02: Uh for the Devils, uh Scott Stevens, who had a concussion in two in 2003, got a concussion missed like the last couple of months of the season.
11:53
SPEAKER_02: Uh he probably was gonna retire anyway, but he didn't come back after the lockout.
11:58
SPEAKER_02: He was plus forty.
12:01
SPEAKER_02: Um I think some contract I think the contracts basically they they collectively bargained it because the players try to get like um do they does that year count towards the the length of the contract or not?
12:14
SPEAKER_02: And I believe it was negotiated, and but a lot of players ended up retiring.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, Frank, where do you stand right now?
12:23
SPEAKER_01: Because I I I I watch you, I love your videos.
12:26
SPEAKER_01: You're a hero to me, an inspiration.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm on day 99 of walking.
12:30
SPEAKER_01: I've lost 10 pounds, so really I attribute uh success in the grind to you.
12:35
SPEAKER_01: But I and I see these videos of you and Steve.
12:38
SPEAKER_01: Where are where do you and Steve Cohen stand right now?
12:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, Steve Cohen blocks me on Twitter.
12:45
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
12:47
SPEAKER_01: He did?
12:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
12:49
SPEAKER_02: What happened there?
12:51
SPEAKER_02: He doesn't think I'm nice to his players.
12:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what and you know what?
12:58
SPEAKER_01: And it it's a problem, like, because Frank is the truest, like a visionary for Metch fans.
13:04
SPEAKER_01: And for Yankees fans, we have a lot of happy look go-lucky podcasts out there who who cheer on the manager.
13:12
SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
13:13
SPEAKER_01: Frank says it real.
13:14
SPEAKER_01: We really appreciate that.
13:16
SPEAKER_01: We only have a five about five minutes left with Frank.
13:19
SPEAKER_01: We really truly appreciate coming on.
13:22
SPEAKER_01: Shout out to Jenks as well, uh, a legend in his own right as well.
13:26
SPEAKER_01: Job, do you have anything else?
13:28
SPEAKER_00: No, Frank, I think it's just uh with the way baseball is, I think it's in in a good spot, you know, going in the lockout.
13:35
SPEAKER_00: How if we do, how long do you think it takes to build the fan base back up to what it is right now?
13:42
SPEAKER_02: Depending on how long it lasts.
13:45
SPEAKER_02: If you lose half a season, I think it's just uh I think it's something you limp through for a year or two.
13:52
SPEAKER_02: If you do what the NHL did and trash an entire season, so if there is no 2027 season, it will take decades to recover.
14:04
SPEAKER_02: Decades.
14:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking, I'm talking 10 to 20 years.
14:08
SPEAKER_02: And uh and uh and my prediction is this there will be some sort of soft cap.
14:17
SPEAKER_02: It won't be a hard cap, but it will be a more like more strict adherence to the tax.
14:26
SPEAKER_02: There will be a little bit of a salary floor, but we'll get them the deal done.
14:33
SPEAKER_02: It will not be done at the negotiating table.
14:38
SPEAKER_02: Sometime around May, the loss of baseball, the loss of uh revenue, the law the town's suffering, there will be political involvement, and I and I think Donald Trump will be the one that even though he says he doesn't care, he'll care.
14:54
SPEAKER_02: He'll care in May.
14:56
SPEAKER_02: He'll step in, or the government's gonna step in, force a deal, and they're gonna force the deal by doing this one one way.
15:04
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna mention that take away that precious antitrust exemption, which Major League Baseball holds dearer and near near and dear.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: The thing that scares them the most is that being taken away.
15:19
SPEAKER_02: And that will get it done.
15:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what we call bada bing, bada boom.
15:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh, Frank, one final question again.
15:26
SPEAKER_01: Appreciate you coming on.
15:28
SPEAKER_01: Um the Mets.
15:30
SPEAKER_01: Like, it what is going on with their roster construction right now?
15:35
SPEAKER_01: Like, what do you do to fix the Mets?
15:38
SPEAKER_01: Like, what do you what are the first three moves you do, and then we'll get you out of here.
15:42
SPEAKER_01: But what do you do to fix the Mets?
15:45
SPEAKER_02: Well, first off, I think you need to bring in a reliable starting pitcher, an innings eater.
15:52
SPEAKER_02: I I like what the rookies looked like last year, McLean.
15:57
SPEAKER_02: Dorton, I think, is gonna be one of these back and back at the end rotation guys.
16:01
SPEAKER_02: He's he doesn't throw hard, but you know, he could do enough.
16:06
SPEAKER_02: Jonah Tong, they just gotta get him thrown the right way again.
16:10
SPEAKER_02: Um and uh Chris Christian Scott looked decent, but they need a veteran.
16:15
SPEAKER_02: A veteran and eater.
16:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, they need a true ace, right?
16:20
SPEAKER_01: That's what I always talk.
16:21
SPEAKER_01: I always talk to Mets fans.
16:22
SPEAKER_01: You guys don't have a true ace.
16:23
SPEAKER_01: The Yankees, at least they pay for four aces, but it is a little crazy that they don't have that main guy that they can throw money at.
16:30
SPEAKER_02: The Mets should be pursuing school ball.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: They should be, but I don't think they will.
16:36
SPEAKER_02: Damn.
16:37
SPEAKER_02: That that hurts because David Stearns actually believes that starting pitching is overrated and that you could just rotate in pitchers in and out.
16:55
SPEAKER_02: What they don't understand is you need that one guy that could be the 10 pole.
17:00
SPEAKER_02: So these pitchers that can that only go five, six innings, you don't wear out your bullpen.
17:05
SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, you wear out the bullpen, then all of a sudden you're blowing games.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: That's that's what happened in the second half of 2025.
17:13
SPEAKER_00: So, Frank, would if if you were in the position, would you sign Scrubble immediately?
17:17
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
17:20
unknown: Yeah.
17:21
SPEAKER_01: I think I think that makes the most sense.
17:23
SPEAKER_01: I I agree with you.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: Every Met fan I talk to, they say we need a number one.
17:27
SPEAKER_01: We need a number one, we need a number one.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you another player who I'd add, who gets no appreciation.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: And if he played 40 years ago, he'd be a star.
17:40
SPEAKER_02: And he no one likes him, no one appreciates him.
17:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about Luis Arries.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: That's I as soon as you said 40 years ago, that's the first person that popped in my head.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: 40 years ago, he would have been a star.
17:54
SPEAKER_02: And the fact that people don't like Louis, and I'm not gonna say he's I'm not gonna say he's Tony Gwynn.
18:00
SPEAKER_02: But winning batting titles almost every year, and it tells me that if Tony Gwynn was coming up today, they'd force him to become one of these pull launch angle guys.
18:15
SPEAKER_02: And if he continued to just hit the ball down the other way, he would never get a chance to be this great hair he was.
18:21
SPEAKER_02: And that's why I just hate this new analytic movement.
18:26
SPEAKER_02: I hate it.
18:28
SPEAKER_02: I hate these Harvard nerds who come in with three true outcomes.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, it doesn't matter if you strike out.
18:38
SPEAKER_02: Yes, it does matter if you strike out.
18:40
SPEAKER_02: I mean I think if Nolan Ryan pitched today, well, first off, they wouldn't let him pitch the innings that he did.
18:47
SPEAKER_02: But Nolan Ryan would probably strike out 20 batteries a game if he if if he was allowed to pitch a full complete game.
18:55
SPEAKER_02: He would get everyone.
18:57
SPEAKER_02: Nobody fouls the ball off.
18:58
SPEAKER_02: They just try to, no matter what pitch is coming, they're trying to hit the ball to Mars.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: Fair, fair.
19:05
SPEAKER_02: And that's why that's the problem with baseball.
19:07
SPEAKER_02: You have this, this you have the nerds running the game, and then you had they want every player to be hitting like a meathead, not even put any thought in the damn game.
19:16
SPEAKER_01: Preach.
19:17
SPEAKER_01: Preach.
19:18
SPEAKER_01: Well, listen, we we had an absolute blast with you.
19:21
SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, sometime we can do it again.
19:26
SPEAKER_01: Jabba, final words to Frank before we get him out of here.
19:29
SPEAKER_00: Always good to see if Frank will have to come and uh do another lift when I get to New York.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: Yep, yep.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: I just did a lift about uh just finished doing a lift about 20 minutes ago.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: At a boy.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: How many days in a row is that?
19:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, I do uh three times a week.
19:41
SPEAKER_00: At a boy.
19:42
SPEAKER_01: Love it.
19:43
SPEAKER_01: Frank the Tank, the legend himself.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: We really appreciate it, Frank.
19:49
SPEAKER_01: Have a great day.
19:50
SPEAKER_01: All right, see you later.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: See you Frank.
19:55
SPEAKER_01: All right, Java.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: We have to talk about this press conference um immediately.
20:00
SPEAKER_01: And and Lukash, if you want to join and come on, uh you're more than welcome to.
20:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh, that was fun.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: That was fun with Frank.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: Um, really appreciate uh Frank the Tank as always, um, as as Lukash, or just do the two screen right now, which whatever's easier, Lukash.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, I mean, Frank, he hit everything on the head.
20:23
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we went through things pretty quickly, but we gotta talk about the press conference.
20:29
SPEAKER_01: We gotta talk about Hal's comments.
20:33
SPEAKER_01: Um, and let's just throw it up, throw up that uh that graphic that we have, Lukash.
20:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this was the one that was pretty frustrating today, Jabba.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: He said that winning 93 games and making the ALDS is not considered a failure.
20:49
SPEAKER_01: I mean, what are your thoughts on all that?
20:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I think there was obviously a lot of that went into that as far as what was scripted, what was kind of like talked about before, knowing knowing that and how they do things.
21:06
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I mean, yeah, it's technically not a failure.
21:09
SPEAKER_00: It's as as cash even said and when he was talking, he goes, Well, you got to punch your ticket, then get there, and then you reset everything, right?
21:17
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, we thanks, Captain Obvious.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: We know that, like that's what the postseason is, and talking about how the different roster from the DS to championship and and how the balance, like, we we literally could have scripted exactly what was gonna be said, honestly.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: Like, and with with some people that I talked to, we legitimately said the same thing.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: It's like we know exactly what's gonna be said, and then saying, you know, get there, and then how obviously saying that everybody did a good job and that the the players didn't hold their end of the deal.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: Well, obviously, like there wasn't anything that you said that we don't understand, don't recognize, but also saying they did the job and and what that means for.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Further than just the surface level to me, it's like, okay, yes, we know the players didn't hold up their end of the deal.
22:07
SPEAKER_00: We get that, right?
22:08
SPEAKER_00: Got swept.
22:09
SPEAKER_00: But also, the personnel was based upon what you guys brought in.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: And then they they use Luis Garcia.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: They're like, Well, that wasn't even on our radar, but we brought him, and you know it's gonna continue to go.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: It's like you're gonna pat yourself on the back for for the one that you did do well, and and so I just think it was it was very to the book of what I thought it was gonna be.
22:31
SPEAKER_00: There was nothing that really kind of stood out other than I could have probably said 90% of what they were gonna say.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: Because there was nothing that really stood out where you're like, damn, okay, that that kind of hit, and I kind of get it, or okay, this is just kind of what you guys had talked about before, and and what the the Zoom conference press conference was gonna be.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: And like I said, I I I wonder what was on.
22:58
SPEAKER_00: Was it was it talking points on Cash's iPad in front of him?
23:02
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, and you know, like we said, it's and a bunch of people have said that hey, yeah, you look at the Mets, right?
23:11
SPEAKER_00: They have all this money, but they didn't even make the playoffs.
23:14
SPEAKER_00: Well, at least we get in to make the playoffs, and you know, I had I got a bunch of great responses from fans, and you know, it's it sucks because you you like the seriousness in some of these people's voices, and and I think Frank brought up a great point of if it does go the whole year, you're gonna lose these people because you already have people, especially Yankees fans, and I'm just speaking Yankees fans, I'm not talking baseball as a whole.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: Is there like I'm done?
23:40
SPEAKER_00: Like, this is the same thing we've seen over and over again, and there's 93 wins, okay, yeah, but there's nothing that's happened in 17 years that makes me like feel great.
23:49
SPEAKER_00: Like, yes, did have we signed some guys?
23:51
SPEAKER_00: Yes, but you know, and obviously we understand the market and winning and and all the other stuff, but I think it's getting getting to a point where you know cash touched on talking to other players.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: He obviously wouldn't give specifics, but he has a good relationship with them, and you know, obviously he's gonna say what have you.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, it's your fan base too that is such an important and integral part of this team and the support.
24:19
SPEAKER_00: When you know a lot of them are like, hey, you haven't done anything, and you know, they make it feel like a slap in the face to go as far as like, I don't want to buy a ticket, I don't want to buy a jersey, and it's not because what they see, because yeah, we're getting but there's no changes, or there's there's nothing that's being done that's different to to make them feel you know warm and fuzzy inside.
24:41
SPEAKER_00: I'm not you're not gonna make everybody happy.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: I understand that.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: But when you have so many people just we've heard it again and again and again, it's like any relationship.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: If you see it all the same time and it's not getting fixed, you're you're taking a hike, you're going somewhere else.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: So it really there was there was a lot to it, but not really a lot to it.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it and it just seems like you're right, like, and again, your rant, like you like from three weeks ago was like nothing's gonna nothing's changed, like and and you're right, it just it is kind of and you know, and I used to scream about it till my blood pressure boiled over, and now I'm 36 years old and in the headspace of like, hey, listen, if they're not gonna change anything, why are you gonna, you know, uh rupture something because you're screaming too loud?
25:37
SPEAKER_00: Like, so like it comes to a point where you're just kind of like the complacency and you know, again, and and if if they do exp extend boon, if they do extend that'll be why if Frank's right about that, that'll be wild.
25:55
SPEAKER_01: If they extend Boone, I might have to chain myself to Yankee Stadium.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: Like, I am not joking.
26:02
SPEAKER_01: You want to talk about us going mega.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: There might be riots.
26:06
SPEAKER_01: No, because and and I might have to lead that.
26:08
SPEAKER_01: And unfortunately, like I might have to be the guy that leads that and gets taken out of Yankee Stadium.
26:14
SPEAKER_01: I might have to chain myself to the stadium if that happens, because that's what the that's what the fans need.
26:20
SPEAKER_01: They need somebody like me, like, to go do that and to go like and and I'm close.
26:26
SPEAKER_01: I am really close at this point.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: I am really close.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: And listen, I understand that Brian Cashman and the Steinbrenners go lock and key.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: And if you want to give me that, fine.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: But also fix your roster.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: In 2024, I spent all offseason, every single day, talking about Ju Soto.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: And they went and traded for Juan Soto.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: And what happened?
26:47
SPEAKER_01: They got us to the World Series.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: Now this team needs to step up.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: You know you have a huge problem at third base.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: You have a humongous problem at third base.
26:56
SPEAKER_01: Go get the kid from Japan, Tarowaki, Sado, take 208 RBIs in the last two seasons.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: You go and get that guy immediately because, oh, wait, we have to put a band-aid on the$16 million that Brian Cashman spent on third base because he was desperate at the trade deadline a previous season.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: Oh, wait, also Aaron Hicks money.
27:21
SPEAKER_01: Oh, wait, also Jan Carlos Stanton money.
27:23
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, you can point fingers at the players.
27:26
SPEAKER_01: You can absolutely point fingers in the players.
27:28
SPEAKER_01: They got swept, they only have one hit first Rasmussen, but you kind of have to point the fingers at yourself.
27:33
SPEAKER_01: Like you say, listen, we're the guys in charge.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: We, as fans, almost have to tell them in 2021, I went on the rant.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: We need Garrett Cole.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: They want to go.
27:43
SPEAKER_01: So maybe Choppa, maybe we have to be the podcast that is telling the Yankees, hey, go get this guy.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: And for this, it's Terwaki Soto uh Sado.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: We need that guy in pinstripes immediately.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if there's any other thoughts on this team construction-wise, like we need this guy now.
28:04
SPEAKER_01: What are you thinking?
28:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I think obviously from the pitching side, I think it's it's you're in a good situation, obviously, with the money that you have wrapped up in those guys and obviously what they've done.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: Cam obviously being under control.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: Um back end, obviously, your closers being well taken care of.
28:24
SPEAKER_00: We'll kind of see how the ships fall in between and and what happens.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: I think what what's the last player international player we got that really made him?
28:33
SPEAKER_00: It was Tanaka, right?
28:35
SPEAKER_00: Um and he was fantastic.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, I just it's it's interesting to see if they'll make that move, or you know, obviously we've seen rumblings, and it's it's the four or five names that always come into play when when one of those players post, and you know, it's obviously the talent is there, we've seen it.
28:56
SPEAKER_00: The the guys are tremendous, and you know, I just it are they gonna make a move?
29:02
SPEAKER_00: It's the same thing.
29:02
SPEAKER_00: I feel like we're beating a dead horse here, and because we say the same thing around the trade deadline, we say the same thing in the offseason because there's always something that comes up, and I feel like they make one big one and then kind of don't, and and I've talked about this before, you make one splash, or do you have four people create a tidal wave?
29:26
SPEAKER_00: So I I don't know the right answer with what you have.
29:29
SPEAKER_00: I think it you become you kind of become handcuffed with having guys on the roster because they can only do one dynamic of of a team, so you're kind of holding up a spot, but there obviously are holes that need to be filled, third base being one of them, and obviously the the tenure that he's had in the history and the numbers, obviously they'll find something wrong with him analytically.
29:54
SPEAKER_00: Um he maybe doesn't matter if he strikes out, but his hits aren't hard enough.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, they'll make something up, but I think you need to have something.
30:05
SPEAKER_00: I just it it's scary to talk about because are guys gonna sign early just to make sure that they get their money, or that or are they gonna wait to see, like, okay, what's gonna happen?
30:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I hope obviously they don't push it to the year, but I mean it's it's kind of scary for these guys coming into it, and for the Yankees, it's like, what do you what are you gonna do?
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Are you gonna try and go early, or are you gonna be like, hey, well, this is coming up, we're gonna have this, um, so we're not gonna, you know, Boone did fine, you know, cash was great, as Hal said.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: Like the players let us down.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: So if the okay, so let's let's use that, right?
30:47
SPEAKER_00: The players didn't do their part.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: Well, then as owners, wouldn't you get them the hell out of there and get some dudes that can?
30:55
SPEAKER_00: I you're the one that said it, we didn't.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: So if they let you down and you and you feel like cash and booney are fine, fine, I'm okay with that.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: But then get these dudes out that didn't live up to what they lived up to.
31:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, peace out, sauerkraut.
31:10
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get somebody else because 93 is good, but you let us down last year, but we're gonna run it back with the same shit.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: No.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: Fair.
31:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:21
SPEAKER_00: He said it.
31:22
SPEAKER_00: We didn't say it, he did.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: No, I agree with you.
31:25
SPEAKER_01: Like, listen, like, the best thing that ever happened to the New York Yankees is that I am not one of those beat reporters because I swear to God, I I would there would be more.
31:35
SPEAKER_01: It's just, it's crazy.
31:37
SPEAKER_01: And like, it just, and like, again, I get it.
31:40
SPEAKER_01: So they said it, the players are bad, so fix the players.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm with you.
31:46
SPEAKER_01: Because at this point, you're right.
31:48
SPEAKER_01: The guys in charge, this this one, um, this grocery store has the three owners, they're not gonna change, but you know what?
31:56
SPEAKER_01: Maybe they can get better employees.
31:58
SPEAKER_01: Maybe maybe the guy who's always late, maybe he needs to go out there.
32:01
SPEAKER_01: Maybe the guy who's hitting 110 with like a 500 OPS.
32:07
SPEAKER_01: And then there's a couple guys on that team with a hundred OP, uh, 100 batting average, which is insane, which also I think is a very underrated stat in baseball.
32:16
SPEAKER_01: People want to talk about the OPS, and I love an OPS, don't get me wrong.
32:20
SPEAKER_01: But that batting average kind of matters sometimes too, and at least shows to like, hey, this guy's making contact with the ball.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: So I think it's crazy, but you're absolutely right, Java.
32:31
SPEAKER_01: You are dead on, spot on, right.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: They told us this was on the players.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: Okay, it's on the players, so get new players because you're worth, and I looked at it and I don't think it's right.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: They said it's worth the Forbes said the Yankees are worth$8.5 billion.
32:49
SPEAKER_01: And let me tell you more than that.
32:52
SPEAKER_01: It's gotta be 12.
32:53
SPEAKER_01: It's gotta be 12, 13, 14, 15.
32:56
SPEAKER_01: So, how?
32:57
SPEAKER_01: Honestly, if you don't want to be the owner, and honestly, no problem.
33:02
SPEAKER_01: Listen, people sometimes uh don't live up to their dad's hype or or want to be more relaxed, whatever, then just sell the team if you're not willing to, because I swear to God, there's a bunch of rich billionaires that would love to buy the Yankees, double its value, and win some championships as well.
33:21
SPEAKER_01: And if if if you only want to give us a Zoom press conference once a year where you're not really holding anybody accountable, like what are you even doing it for?
33:30
SPEAKER_01: Like, I really want to see like what is his emotions?
33:34
SPEAKER_01: Like, what are his emotions when we get swept?
33:37
SPEAKER_01: Like, I really like does like I understand they're running a business and they operate a great business because there are dozens of Yankees podcasts out there that talk and and you know, and we go and I and again, I'll I'll say it like I buy the ice cream and the hot dogs, and I want to.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: It's fun.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: I love the Yankees.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: I love the Yankees.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: So make me fall in love with the Yankees again.
34:03
SPEAKER_01: Because right now I'm not I'm not in love with you, Yankees.
34:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm really, I'm just not in love with you.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: And and then that's the God's honest truth.
34:10
SPEAKER_01: So make us fall in love again.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: Do not one splash, not two splash, not three splash, four splashes.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: Give it to us because we're gonna have your back.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: We're the one that's in your corner.
34:21
SPEAKER_01: Believe it or not, Jabba and I want this team to win more than anyone.
34:26
SPEAKER_01: Truly, more just as much as the players.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: I'll even tell you that much.
34:30
SPEAKER_01: Because, you know, some of those guys have a large contract, and I'm sure they want to win.
34:36
SPEAKER_01: But I don't even know if these guys want to win as much as I want to win and as much as you want to win, because I saw your emotion this October, and we're frustrated.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: And all we want to do is come on here and be happy.
34:48
SPEAKER_01: Like, all we want to do is promote the Yankees.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: That's what we do best, right?
34:52
SPEAKER_01: And it just gets a little infuriating.
34:54
SPEAKER_01: And I'm I'm sorry to ramble about it, but like we're just a little bit upset right now, and I don't think upset's the right word.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: It's just maybe a little crazy, but uh there's nothing more than we want to for Aaron Boone to win a World Series with the Yankee and Brian Castman to be right about a Ryan McMahon or an Aaron Hicks or a Joey Gallo.
35:15
SPEAKER_01: But sometimes you miss big, but you gotta keep on swinging because in order for that$12 billion evaluation that we did to go up to$14,$15 billion, you gotta win.
35:26
SPEAKER_01: You gotta win eventually, or you're kind of a joke.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I it's just you're and you I don't you're not the only one that feels that way based upon the people that I interacted with.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: And you know, like I said earlier, it's just you know, people are they're they're just gonna stop because it's it, I don't it's not fun.
35:48
SPEAKER_00: It it it's the same thing.
35:50
SPEAKER_00: Like if if something ain't working in in your own life, what do you do?
35:54
SPEAKER_00: You get rid of it and you switch it up and and try something new.
35:57
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I just I think it's it's the same thing over and over again, and I think it's really leaving a bad taste in people's mouths because yeah, you do win, and and you know, like they both said, 93 wins, yeah, it's great, but you also set a precedent that 93 isn't enough.
36:14
SPEAKER_00: Winning, and we we all know it's winning is hard, like yeah, but I don't think it's necessarily the 17 years of not winning, I think it's the way that they continue to win in the same way.
36:28
SPEAKER_00: If it was different, I think if there was different, like, oh, we brought in this, but you know, we just couldn't pitch, or you know, there was just different anomalies of of how the games were, but it's the same thing over and over again, and I think that is what is the most frustrating part, more so than just getting there and having the 93 wins and having all that.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: I think it's just in the way that it it has happened where it continually is the same thing over and over again.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and and I feel and I really do.
36:58
SPEAKER_01: I feel bad for um I feel bad for the people trying to do their jobs at this press conference.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: Am I crazy for thinking that like is it crazy to show up to a press conference and do a live press conference after?
37:11
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know.
37:12
SPEAKER_01: I I I would like to see a little bit more accountability.
37:15
SPEAKER_01: Maybe they're fleeing the scene, like maybe they know how angry we are, but I don't know.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: I think it's a little crazy not to just do the press conference, come back, be professional about it, answer the media's questions.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because as much as as much as we can predict what they're gonna say, they're they predict it, they know what questions are coming.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, Cash was like being, you know, we were one of the first ones to have the mental side of whatever, and yeah, I get it.
37:43
SPEAKER_00: Chad Bowling, their mental strength coordinate, he's from Nebraska.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: Like, I literally know his whole family.
37:48
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, we get that you're part of that and answering the media and whatever.
37:54
SPEAKER_00: So don't think that you're saying that we you guys do this when you know exactly the same thing that's gonna be presented, and and what because unless they just completely live under a rock, which obviously they can't, they know exactly what questions are gonna be presented and and how they're gonna ask it without asking it, and then if they don't answer it, they're gonna ask it a different way.
38:16
SPEAKER_00: Like you're not telling us something that we don't know.
38:19
SPEAKER_00: So when we know that you're gonna say a certain thing, you know what's gonna be asked for you to say the certain thing.
38:27
SPEAKER_00: So, and there's just uh it's there's really no give and take, and and whatever we kind of we've seen exactly what it was.
38:34
SPEAKER_00: Oh, they did good, they did good, the players let us down.
38:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay, everything's good.
38:39
SPEAKER_00: We we did this, and you know, we have all these things in place, and high like so it's it's it's all the same thing, and I think that's the frustrating part for a lot of people is it's it's the same thing over and over, and nothing is is seems to be getting accomplished yet.
38:53
SPEAKER_00: 93 wins is great, but it that's the same thing every year, and nothing has happened.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: I agree completely.
39:00
SPEAKER_01: I agree completely.
39:01
SPEAKER_01: Um, so did you watch season four of Ted Lasso?
39:07
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm catching up.
39:09
SPEAKER_00: Like, this is the time where I catch up on things because sports kind of slow down through during the week.
39:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, so this is the time I catch up on a lot of things.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, Tulsa King just started again.
39:23
SPEAKER_00: But always like when something new comes out, I always like try to go back and catch up because usually there's there's time in between.
39:30
SPEAKER_00: But I I'm pretty sure I'm on season four of Lasso.
39:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, uh this isn't a spoiler at all.
39:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna because I'll go watch it anyways.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so Ted Lasso, we got the belief sign up, we got it up, it's staying there.
39:45
SPEAKER_01: But in season four with the girls' team, they add to it every single time.
39:51
SPEAKER_01: So for next week, you're gonna come with your sticker that we're gonna add to, and and so they have like hundreds of stickers up there now.
40:00
SPEAKER_01: And I thought it'd be a really good idea for our wall.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: I also uh might have an a Halloween outfit for next week.
40:07
SPEAKER_01: Uh but yeah, so I'm trying I'm trying to get a lean into the Ted Lasso in this one, and for this one, and thank you for all the fans for for uh watching today.
40:17
SPEAKER_01: Um, we'll be back next Wednesday at 6 p.m., most likely.
40:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, I want to say for this one that this week it's gonna say believe, and the sticker is I'm gonna write it down right here.
40:34
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna believe, but it also says believe and win.
40:41
SPEAKER_01: Because it is, it's you can believe, we gotta believe, but we gotta believe and we gotta win at this point.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna put this up on the sticker, and I might get a bigger sign to do it, but we're gonna add to that each week at the end of each podcast.
40:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, I also saw you did a really great job with Jared Carabas.
41:02
SPEAKER_01: I'd love to have him on sometime to uh to give him his thoughts.
41:06
SPEAKER_01: I want to get the perspective of other guys because like we we we know what the Yankees fans are.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: I want to see from Frank and Jared and like guys that are fans of the other team that are kind of laughing.
41:17
SPEAKER_01: Like, we have Red Sox fans tweeting at us every single day, like, oh, they just um they like they post to like Aaron Boone, like we want him to sign again.
41:26
SPEAKER_01: Like all Boston fans.
41:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I've I've gotten plenty of like when I asked for reactions, I mean, other guys were like, Oh, thank you, great, that's awesome, perfect.
41:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, so it's definitely.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: I actually was just talking to Jared right now.
41:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, no, I've I've definitely when it got announced, literally, like there were a lot of people that root for other teams that root against the Yankees that were like, Yes, we got them back again.
41:54
SPEAKER_00: Like, well, I I don't know how to react to this.
41:58
SPEAKER_00: Do I get mad at you?
42:00
SPEAKER_00: Do you like damn it, you're right, or like, no, screw you, you're a fan of somebody else.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, when you when you start rooting, like, yes, keep them there, we're good.
42:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I mean, I would love to, yeah, I would love to have him on.
42:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, we'll get some other guests on.
42:16
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I mean, listen, we're gonna keep it short and sweet today this today.
42:20
SPEAKER_01: We had a great time with Frank.
42:22
SPEAKER_01: We hit all the things we needed to hit, and uh, we got some good sound bags as well.
42:27
SPEAKER_01: Um, Frank freaking out and me freaking out a little bit today that you finally saw a little bit side of that.
42:33
SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah, so uh, you know, follow Jabba on Twitter, follow Yankees Pod and all.
42:40
SPEAKER_01: We gotta get a send out um a subscribe to the YouTube because we're at 932 subscribers.
42:46
SPEAKER_01: If we hit a thousand, that would be great.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: So that's our next goal.
42:49
SPEAKER_01: Hit a thousand subscribers on YouTube and uh really go from there.
42:53
SPEAKER_01: But Jabba, another week down, final thoughts.
42:57
SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
42:58
SPEAKER_00: It was uh it was an interesting week.
42:59
SPEAKER_00: We got the World Series starting, so we'll have some other stuff to talk about and link it together, and uh we'll see you back here next week.
43:07
SPEAKER_01: All right.
43:08
SPEAKER_01: This was Yankees Pod with Jimmy and Jabba.
43:11
SPEAKER_01: We'll see you next week.