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- 0:00Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics, and
- 0:04space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been known to learn about astronomical
- 0:08phenomenon, the scientific method, and expanded vocabulary to include terms like quasar asterism
- 0:13and uranus. Listen, that's your own risk. Go ahead. When made
- 0:23of stars, made them stars, madies. When made of stars, you
- 0:33could be from high they would New Mexicomas. We're all stars when we are
- 0:55made of stars. I'm Wes Carrol, joined by'm my good friend doctor Shawn
- 0:58Cruising from Columbus State Universities Coca Cola Space Science. That are more thing Sean,
- 1:03Hey, Wes, it's great to be here today. We have some
- 1:08cool stories basically about upcoming things. I get well. One is a look
- 1:14back as far as it's exciting because it's being opened, I guess for the
- 1:18first time. But we'll get to the Osiris REX container in a few minutes,
- 1:22and we'll get to Venus eventually. Literally. But we're going to talk
- 1:26about SpaceX and a launch that was supposed to happen yesterday and it is now
- 1:33going to apparently happen today presumably. I mean as much of a chance for
- 1:40certain it happening as I guess yesterday. There's always a chance, right,
- 1:42There's always a chance they're going to have to delay it. There is,
- 1:47especially when they throw out reasons like they have this time, which is that
- 1:52they simply quote had to have time to quote complete pre launch checkouts and data
- 1:59analysis on the view vehicle. Yeah. Now, as Wes and I were
- 2:01discussing just briefly off air right before the start of the show, does it
- 2:06feel like they should have done that before launch day? I mean information that
- 2:10would have been useful yesterday, that kind of thing, you know, where
- 2:14you to quote the wedding singer. I mean, it just feels like something
- 2:19that could have been planned out ahead of time. Yeah. I mean,
- 2:22you have human beings. They're going to get on a rocket and they're going
- 2:25to go to space yep, and you need that rocket to work. So
- 2:30maybe like pre launch checkouts and data analysis on the vehicle should have been completed.
- 2:36I mean, far be it from me to give SpaceX a hard time.
- 2:39I'm just wondering. I'm just curious, is that something that they should
- 2:44have maybe have maybe gone ahead and done. Well, let me ask you
- 2:47this, because this is what what was you know, released in a in
- 2:52a statement, I guess about the postponement. And I'm just going to tell
- 2:57you from my personal experience. And again I don't I don't want to to
- 3:00lay any mistrust in anyone's direction, other than to say that whenever I've been
- 3:05on an airplane and they say, ladies and gentlemen, we were tweaking something
- 3:08mild and the landing gear, we're getting ready to take off, it's gonna
- 3:13be a few minutes, I just assume that that means that one of the
- 3:16engines failed. Like that's what I assumed the problem is. And they're just
- 3:21giving us some real like maybe they needed to, you know, adjust the
- 3:25Johnson rod on the landing gear while they were at it, but that wasn't
- 3:29really the problem. That maybe there was a giant crack in the windshield of
- 3:32the plane or you know, something that would have been significantly a bigger problem.
- 3:38So is there any chance. I don't want to put you down that
- 3:42path, but anyway, I just wonder if this is really what the problem
- 3:45was, if there was something else going on. I was recently at the
- 3:47airport and was delayed for quite some time awaiting a signature. That is when
- 3:53I heard that's what they came on a say hours, we're just needing a
- 3:57signature. Waiting for a signature. Yeah, waiting for a signature means they
- 4:00got a problem with the whole fuel system and they're rerouting the whole fuel line
- 4:04to the right engine or something. So it's like, I got to get
- 4:08a signature on this. Yeah, so the signature says we re routed the
- 4:12fuel line correctly to THEE. That's good, that's all right. Yeah,
- 4:15let's wait for that signature. Then that's all right. Signature that you're looking
- 4:19for. I mean, in my head, I've got a whole series of
- 4:21problems I can come up with, and rarely are they anywhere close to what
- 4:26they're actually telling you. In one of my scenarios, I was pretty certain
- 4:30that the wing had fallen off and they were putting it back on. Hopefully
- 4:35I'm just gonna say, hopefully SpaceX is at a higher stand Yeah, hopefully
- 4:39so, hopefully so. But they just need a couple of signatures and they'll
- 4:43be ready to go. Well, that's what the checklist is, right,
- 4:46it's about signatures. I'm guessing they have to somebody's got to sign off on
- 4:49that check last in that data. Now go all right, So this is
- 4:56we haven't really discussed this. This is the ax three mission Axiom. It's
- 5:00all commercial, it's a fully commercial crew. It is the first all European
- 5:05crew to go to the International Space Station. And so who's on board this
- 5:12all commercial crew from Axiom riding a SpaceX Falcon nine and Dragon capsule up to
- 5:16the International Space Station. Well, it's a name you've probably heard before.
- 5:20Michael Lopez Allegria, Michael Lopez Alagrea space Shuttle astronaut. Definitely an American US
- 5:28NASA astronaut, but was born in Madrid, Spain, so he has dual
- 5:31citizenship, so that qualifies. And then Walter Volati from Italy, Alper Gazarovchi
- 5:41from Turkey, and Marcus Vant from Sweden. So this is the crew,
- 5:46all commercial astronauts, all either members of the Axiom staff or people who have
- 5:54paid their way on to the vehicle to go. So this is part of
- 5:57that new era of spaceflight where it's not just NASA and Russian astronauts going to
- 6:02the National Space Station and taking up their European or Japanese partners. Now we
- 6:08have commercial companies sending commercial crews to ISS and they're going up to do experiments.
- 6:14So they have thirty scientific experiments and demonstrations that they're going to do on
- 6:19board while they're up there that are focused on human physiology and technology industrial advancements,
- 6:26according to SpaceX. So this is all supposed to have launched as we're
- 6:30recording our podcast and getting ready to upload it. It was all supposed to
- 6:33go yesterday, but then they decided they needed to do well, they needed
- 6:38to complete a couple of pre launch checkouts and some data analysis apparently, so
- 6:44they shut yesterday's launch down and now we're awaiting a four forty nine pm Eastern
- 6:50Time launch on today, Thursday, the eighteenth of January twenty twenty four.
- 6:58We were hoping to bring you updates on this story, like, hey,
- 7:00they made it to the space station, but we're just saying, well,
- 7:03hey, they're waiting for those pre launch checkouts and data analysis to be done,
- 7:08so maybe they can fly today. Yeah, and hopefully they're able to
- 7:12get through all of that today so that they can successfully launch. So this
- 7:17this crew that's going up you mentioned the international connection for it, and I
- 7:24guess we're hitting that point where anytime they send up a crew like this,
- 7:30it's going to be sort of a unique first and that this is the first
- 7:32time people from these countries have all been there at the same time, and
- 7:35in some cases, I guess for the first time ever. Yeah, that's
- 7:40right. And so it's a new era of commercial commercial space is bringing more
- 7:46of these kinds of firsts to bear. And it's fun, right, it's
- 7:50a it's a really entertaining time for those of us who are space enthusiasts to
- 7:56watch this. Now, I will tell you that it's it can be kind
- 8:00of trying for the NASA insiders because they're used to very well, shall we
- 8:07say, strict procedures and protocols, and when they have basically what they consider
- 8:13to be space tourists going up, it does put a little bit of extra
- 8:16strain on the operation side of things for NASA to have these folks up there.
- 8:22But really this is the future of space in general, but also the
- 8:26future of the International Space Station. And just as a side story, there
- 8:31was a story earlier this week that NASA had put out for bids for companies
- 8:37to apply to de orbit the International Space Station in twenty thirty. So companies
- 8:46are going to be submitting proposals in February for ideas about how they can bring
- 8:52the International Space Station down and basically control crash landed in the ocean. So
- 9:00we're really looking at kind of a time frame now with the International Space Station.
- 9:03Right, if that all comes to pass, it's twenty twenty four.
- 9:07Now that's another six years. Six years can go by very quickly. So
- 9:13the commercial companies are trying to take their best advantage of opportunities to get people
- 9:18up to the International Space Station as quickly as possible, while also working on
- 9:22their own private space stations to expand human lower orbit space exploration into the future.
- 9:31Plus also, I guess give them obviously these different countries showing them the
- 9:37importance of being able to have access to this and that moving forward for them.
- 9:41All right, let's talk about one of my favorite stories that we've talked
- 9:45about over the years, and it's been a long time coming of this Osyrus
- 9:50REX story. And we its launch. We covered talking about the mission,
- 9:54we covered the landing there, the touchdown, we covered the getting the samples,
- 10:03the samples have been returned to Earth. Well, now finally they've opened
- 10:07the container and out comes the venom symbiate from the Spider Man universe. No,
- 10:13what what what do we know so far about what they have opened up?
- 10:20I mean, I don't know that that didn't happen, that's true.
- 10:22I mean it's not You can't prove a negative, right, yeah, exactly,
- 10:26so, so that could have also happened, But we don't have any
- 10:30We don't have any reporting on that at the moment. So there's a great
- 10:33story on Universe Today and lots of other news outlets talking about this. Basically,
- 10:37the canister called the tag SAM head, it's the top part of this
- 10:43tag SAM instrument. It came home stuck, so they had twelve clamps that
- 10:50clamped it down and it got so cold and outer space that two of the
- 10:54clamps cold welded themselves shut and so they couldn't get the darn lid off.
- 11:01And they've been working on a process now. Obviously they want to do these
- 11:05things carefully because they don't want to contaminate or lose any of the sample,
- 11:09if at all possible, So they've been working on a method to unstick these
- 11:15two cold welded clamps on the top of the tag SAM to get their sample
- 11:20out for several months. Well, they finally they actually had to invent a
- 11:24new tool to do it, and so they invented and built this new tool.
- 11:30The tool was able to go in and free up the stuck clamps and
- 11:33then they were able to at least partially open the lid of the tag SAM
- 11:39and remove the material that had been returned from the asteroid Binu back in September
- 11:45of last year. So it's been a month's long kind of procedure trying to
- 11:48get at the majority of those materials on the inside. And again they had
- 11:54to do it in a very careful way because very valuable stuff, lots of
- 11:58science needs to be perform formed, but it needs to be pristine in order
- 12:01to carry out these scientific experiments. Principal investigator Dante Loretta from University of Arizona
- 12:09says the bulk of the sample is now available and can be distributed to researchers
- 12:13around the world waiting to run their own analysis of rocks and dust from the
- 12:18asteroid called Benu. So good news coming in from the O Cyrus REX team,
- 12:24and we're glad they finally got the lid off. You know, I've
- 12:26had jars like that myself, you know, you know, you tap them,
- 12:31you run the hot water on them. Yeah, you hit them with
- 12:33a knife, you know, all those kinds of things, and it's just
- 12:35hard to get the lid off. So yeah, you get that little rubber
- 12:37thing that's got kind of a little you know, texture to it, and
- 12:41you're trying to really get to the jar, and then eventually somebody opens it,
- 12:45and you just have to convince yourself that you loosened it a little bit,
- 12:48because you know, you were working at so much already and it couldn't
- 12:52have just been them, especially maybe Dante's tool was, you know, the
- 12:58little rubber thing. I'm not really sure. I used to have one that
- 13:00had the name of a politician who ran for office and didn't win the election,
- 13:05so there was like one try and office, and but then I'm stuck
- 13:09with his name on my little rubber jar opener for you know, two decades
- 13:13or something. So yeah, well that's good. At least you're getting some
- 13:15it's recycling at its at its finest. The things that they're they're uh have
- 13:20been working on, I guess with this mission from the beginning, uh,
- 13:24just quickly things like formation of planets. I mean, this is being able
- 13:28to really a time machine back as far as the the actual materials that they
- 13:33were able to gather from this, and a better understanding of asteroids, and
- 13:39then of course the big one. Uh, you know, we don't want
- 13:41to have to go the path of sending Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck up to
- 13:46to blow up an asteroid in space, but being able to protect ourselves and
- 13:52defend ourselves should there be something making a direct path towards us. That particular
- 13:58motion picture was just on again the other day and I just having to catch
- 14:01a piece of it, and it's got really terrible science, but it's darned
- 14:05entertainment. Yeah, it's fun. I wouldn't use it as a as a
- 14:11textbook to teach your kids about space or proper space procedures, but it's really
- 14:16fun. So it's like con Air. You know, it's not a great
- 14:18it's not really a great movie, but it's a great movie. You know.
- 14:22It's one of those deals where you're like, this is not what i'd
- 14:24call a good movie, but this is fun. Plus we got that Aerosmith
- 14:30song out of the asteroid one. All right, let's talk about this is
- 14:33another And this is another story that we're kind of revisiting because we talked about
- 14:37this a while back, but NASA getting ready, Well I guess they've taken
- 14:43another step closer towards sending a mission to Venus. Yeah, so the NASA
- 14:50NASA Innovative Advanced Concepts Competition program, something we discussed earlier, was was held
- 14:58and the theme of that program was Venus Exploration. Hey, what's your best
- 15:01ideas for going up to Venus? Well, they found they found a winner.
- 15:05And so there's a group led by the NASA Glenn Research Center by Jeffrey
- 15:11Landish, aerospace engineer there, and they've selected one of their concepts for further
- 15:18funding. And so the name of their concept, quite funny, is Sample
- 15:24Return from the Surface of Venus. Okay, so like maybe not the most
- 15:28creative name for a proposal, but anyway, there the proposal involves a lot
- 15:33of platforms, and when exploring Venus, with its hellish like surface and it's
- 15:41acid rain and its atmospheric pressure so so intense that it could crush cans on
- 15:46the surface, you might want to stay in the clouds. And so that's
- 15:52kind of what they're thinking about doing. They're going to put these balloon a
- 15:54balloon platform as kind of a command center in the clouds of US about thirty
- 16:02six miles up something to that effect, and from that high point command center
- 16:07they're going to deploy a solar powered aircraft. And the solar powered aircraft.
- 16:11Now, listen, there's been lessons learned on Mars. Right, aircraft can
- 16:18fly in the atmospheres of other planets, and the Ingenuity helicopter has demonstrated that
- 16:23very effectively on Mars. So now NASA is being more open to the idea
- 16:27of aviation in the atmospheres of alien worlds. So there's a plane, a
- 16:33solar plane. That solar plane can operate at that altitude and receive enough sunlight
- 16:40to that vehicle that's equivalent to about what they would receive flying around on the
- 16:44surface of the Earth, which is pretty cool. And so then they will
- 16:48also deploy a rover to the surface that has abilities to capture samples and put
- 16:53them in sample return containers. Now it's not exactly clear how they're going to
- 16:59retrieve those contains yet. I guess that's what the advanced funding is for,
- 17:03is to finish out that concept. But it's a cool idea to have a
- 17:07balloon based platform as command center, an aircraft that can take off and maneuver
- 17:11from there, and also a rover that goes down to the ground. So
- 17:15this could be the next generation of Venus exploration where samples of the surface might
- 17:22actually be brought back for mineralogical and geological investigations back here on Earth, which
- 17:29is pretty cool. Coming up after a quick break, we'll talk about an
- 17:34eerie quiet on the Sun, and then we'll talk about a disappearing sun.
- 17:38We'll do all that next. So we've been talking off and on for the
- 18:04past several months about solar activity, and we've had these moments where things got
- 18:11pretty intense and we didn't know what was happening, and it was, oh
- 18:14my gosh, we're gonna have communications problems. There's potential communication problems during football,
- 18:21important football games, those kinds of things you know, that come up.
- 18:25And right now though, we're kind of in a weird phase, an
- 18:29eerie quiet with the sun. It is, and it's an interesting phase.
- 18:33By the way. This story from spaceweather dot com. Check out spaceweather dot
- 18:37com whenever you can. It's a great website for especially for following the sun
- 18:41and solar activity. So the thing is generally when the Sun is quiet.
- 18:48It means that it's because there's not very many storms on the Sun, or
- 18:52in other words, sunspot groups. But right now there are lots of sunspot
- 18:56groups on the Sun. It's just that all the sunspot groups are not actually
- 19:03erupting in flares, which for this particular period of time in the Sun's cycle
- 19:10is a little bit unusual because we are moving towards solar maximum. That is
- 19:15the period of time where the Sun's magnetic field is the most disturbed and usually
- 19:19results in the most solar flares and particularly large violent solar flares. So to
- 19:26be nearing solar maximum, to have the Sun loaded up with sunspots and active
- 19:32regions and just not have any big solar flares or almost any solar flares going
- 19:37off for over a week is a little weird. Now, there is one
- 19:41group on the Sun today, active region number thirty five fifty five. That's
- 19:48just a catalog number for the storms on the Sun. So there's a big
- 19:51storm on the Sun that has a disturbed magnetic field, they can tell that
- 19:56it contains the energy for at least an M class solar flare, which is
- 20:02the second most powerful group of solar flares. Whether it will actually unleash that
- 20:07energy. Whether a solar flare will actually happen very unpredictable, but the solar
- 20:11astronomers are keeping an eye on that. It's just interesting to see how long
- 20:15this quiet period is going to last. Now we know it's not going to
- 20:18last forever. We know that it's just a temporary period of time, and
- 20:22that these sun spots will begin to erupt again because they always do. These
- 20:26quiet periods have been noticed in previous solar cycles. But studying this kind of
- 20:33these kinds of variability in the Sun's activity allows astronomers, and particularly solar astronomers,
- 20:38to get a better idea of the mechanics at work that generate these solar
- 20:42storms in the first place. All right, let's talk about the Great American
- 20:48Solar eclipse. It is coming in April. Hey, it's January now,
- 20:53I know, And it's already almost February. It's coming up faster than I
- 20:57can even imagine already. Right, And so if you haven't made plans,
- 21:03friends, it's time to make plans. You got to get in totality.
- 21:07I mean, don't let somebody tell you that an eighty eight percent solar eclipse
- 21:10is going to be good enough. No friends, You need to travel.
- 21:14You need to pack up the family and the dogs and the kids and cats
- 21:17and get right under the path of totality. That's what I'm going to be
- 21:21doing somewhere on the plains of Texas. I'm going to be in the path
- 21:25of totality. I know where it is. I'm just not telling people because
- 21:27I don't want you to chase me out there. So I've already got my
- 21:30house reserved. But if you don't, space dot com has put out an
- 21:36article about the best places in the path of totality to go and hang out,
- 21:42and it's a pretty cool list. It talks about venues and events,
- 21:48including concerts and other kinds of public events, and lots of cool venues like
- 21:52state parks and other attractions that are hosting eclipse related to events and activities that
- 22:00you can join in on. And that list goes from Texas all the way
- 22:04up to Maine and all the states in between through which the path of totality
- 22:08travels. So this is a really cool article to help you plan your last
- 22:14minute trip to go out and see the total eclipse of twenty twenty four,
- 22:18the Great American Solar eclipse of twenty twenty four, friends, So check out
- 22:22that article on space dot com. And we're taking a couple of really cool
- 22:26concerts in the state of Texas. I would say, pretty neat stuff.
- 22:30Speaking of events, the Events tab is where folks can learn about everything coming
- 22:36up at Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center, including I mean,
- 22:40this isn't one of the concerts you're talking about, but there's a very special
- 22:44concert event that happens on March the fifth, the latest the next I guess
- 22:51Music under the Dome and that's when that one will take place, and tickets
- 22:56that are available now. Music out of the Dome of Events are great events.
- 23:00They are held in conjunction with our Schwob School of Music here at Columbus
- 23:04State University. The artists, both faculty and students from the Shob School of
- 23:10Music come in and perform live inside of our planetarium, and while they are
- 23:15performing, graphics are being shown on the dome that were specially produced for the
- 23:19concert. So it's custom graphics for this concert, produced by local artists.
- 23:25It's a really neat event. If you want to know more about that concert
- 23:29or all of the activities that happen here at CSU's Coca Cola Space Science Center.
- 23:33Log onto our website www dot cc SSC dot org, Charlie Charlie SamSam
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