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Christian Conspiracy Coalition: Sex & Sin · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 5: Welcome back for another episode of Christian Conspiracy Coalition, a
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  Speaker 5: place where the best minds of the conspiracy realm gather
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  Speaker 5: to share and discuss their faith, Christianity, and the spiritual
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  Speaker 5: war thrust upon humanity. Today we welcome returning guests, familiar faces,
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  Speaker 5: and new members to the Coalition. It's always great to
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  Speaker 5: meet new people, have new conversations, and share the good
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  Speaker 5: word of this I'm reminded of Hebrews ten twenty four
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  Speaker 5: through twenty five, which states, let us consider how to
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  Speaker 5: stir up one another to love and good works, not
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  Speaker 5: neglecting to meet together as it is a habit for some,
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  Speaker 5: but encouraging one another, and all the more as you
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  Speaker 5: see the day during near. And on that note, let
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  Speaker 5: us welcome today's panel. First up, we have Heidi Love
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  Speaker 5: of the Unfiltered Rise Podcast.
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  Speaker 7: Welcome HEARTI Hi everyone, I'm Heidi Love. I'm happy to
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  Speaker 7: be here. I'm Unfiltered Rise Podcast. Everywhere podcasts are served.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Next up, we have Julia from the Cosmic Peach Podcast.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back, Julia. It's been a while. It's good to
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  Speaker 5: see you back.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you. Yes, I'm thrilled to be I'm glad that
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  Speaker 8: there's two other ladies joining us. I think that's gonna
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  Speaker 8: be fun.
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  Speaker 5: We've got perfect parody at the moment. Got three ladies
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  Speaker 5: and three gentlemen. This is great. Brand new member John
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  Speaker 5: Kerwin of Wake Up or Else and author of the
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  Speaker 5: Conspiracy Theorist Survival Guide.
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  Speaker 9: Welcome John, Hey, Drew. Great to be with you guys.
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  Speaker 9: Looking forward to a great conversation.
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  Speaker 5: Next up, Deplorable Janet of Deplorable Nation Podcast. Welcome Janet,
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  Speaker 5: how are you going?
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  Speaker 10: Hello, Hello, and thank you very much for inviting me
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  Speaker 10: to this because it's going to be a fantastic conversation.
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  Speaker 10: Looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, well, I know it is. This is a very
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  Speaker 5: interesting topic and it's great that we've got that balance
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  Speaker 5: of males and females on the panel. Final, but not least,
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  Speaker 5: Brandon Croll, the Man of Daily Podcast. Welcome Brandon, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: thanks for having me back on Drew. All Right, people
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  Speaker 5: got a bit of a doozy today, and it's a
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  Speaker 5: bit of concerned because we know that Julia and Heidi
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  Speaker 5: can be a little bit naughty when it comes to things.
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  Speaker 5: The topics through our conversation today, First up, original sin,
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  Speaker 5: what does it mean humanity in our modern age?
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  Speaker 9: Two?
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  Speaker 5: Lust and sexualization of mankind? And third, to finish a
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  Speaker 5: show off, pornography, the subversion of man's animalistic based desires.
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  Speaker 5: And more So, here we are, we're going to get
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  Speaker 5: started with some original sin. The premise of original sin
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  Speaker 5: holds that humans, through the fact of birth, inherit a
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  Speaker 5: tainted nature with a proclivity to sin for conduct due
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  Speaker 5: to the consequences of Adam and Eve's fall. What does
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  Speaker 5: this mean for a modern world and humanity in general?
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  Speaker 5: I would like to think that even the common man
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  Speaker 5: who has no faith tries their best to live their
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  Speaker 5: life adhering to a moral compass, values and code of
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  Speaker 5: conduct within their communities.
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  Speaker 3: Is this enough?
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  Speaker 5: How does modern man manage to traverse a world in
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  Speaker 5: gulfed and hedonism, selfishness, and immoral practices? Palms fifty one
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  Speaker 5: to five says behold, I was shaped in iniquity and sin.
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  Speaker 5: Did my mother conceive me? So this is a bise
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  Speaker 5: thing that all humans have a prilivity for scein all
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  Speaker 5: because of the original scene, their original scene that Adam
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  Speaker 5: and Eve birthed upon all of us as humanity. So
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  Speaker 5: who would like to start? He would like to tackle
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  Speaker 5: this one.
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  Speaker 8: I volume. Now go ahead, go ahead, go for John.
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  Speaker 9: Sure, So of course this is a very you could
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  Speaker 9: have ten episodes on original sin. I think that what
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  Speaker 9: it means to us in modern society is it's sort
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  Speaker 9: of like getting dropped into a war zone with zero weapons,
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  Speaker 9: and then your objective is to find the where the
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  Speaker 9: helicopter is going to land. That's Jesus and he's going
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  Speaker 9: to catch you out of there. That's your only hope
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  Speaker 9: is to get caught up out of the flesh into
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  Speaker 9: the spirit, and then you walk through the war zone
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  Speaker 9: in the spirit, because otherwise, you know, you're basically fighting
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  Speaker 9: a spiritual battle with natural tools and it's not going
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  Speaker 9: to work.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's this idea that you know, we are in
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  Speaker 5: a physical realm, we are physical beings, but a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people who aren't the faith, that don't have a
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  Speaker 5: belief system at all, don't recognize the spiritual impact that
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  Speaker 5: exists within our material world and how that is the
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  Speaker 5: battlefield that we're trying to fight against. And like you said, John,
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  Speaker 5: So well, if we don't have the right tools to
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  Speaker 5: fight it, it's like using a potato gun against a tank.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to work exactly.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah. I mean there's no way around it too, because
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  Speaker 8: it's such a double edged sword. That's why we need Jesus.
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  Speaker 8: Because we're imperfect humans. And no matter how we try
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  Speaker 8: to be perfect and great and good and never sin
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  Speaker 8: and you know, pray before we eat and do all
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  Speaker 8: these things, we're still going to sin because that's our
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  Speaker 8: fallen nature as they say, or the original sin made
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  Speaker 8: it to where we have to have Jesus because we
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  Speaker 8: cannot forgive ourselves, you know, will never be the the
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  Speaker 8: ultimate sacrifice. There is no greater sacrifice than what Jesus did.
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  Speaker 8: So we have to have him because we sin every
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  Speaker 8: single day, no matter how hard we try not to.
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  Speaker 3: You may not.
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  Speaker 5: Can't just give myself a posse every weakened. I'm fine,
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  Speaker 5: I'm good, I'm good. This waken They used to.
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  Speaker 7: Sell them in the Catholic Church long ago, but I still.
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  Speaker 5: Do how many Mafiases went on their deathbed and just
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  Speaker 5: brought their way into heaven thanks to the Catholic Church
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  Speaker 5: at times.
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  Speaker 7: You know, and I conjecture that it isn't actual sexual
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  Speaker 7: sin that was the original sin. As much as I
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  Speaker 7: read into this, it was doubt and pride. Right, it
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  Speaker 7: was doubt originally and pride that followed for Adam, because
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  Speaker 7: really the doubt was Eves, but the pride was his.
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  Speaker 7: And so as much as I read through it and
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  Speaker 7: into generational they always like it back to Adam in
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  Speaker 7: the scriptures, but Augustine links it back to Eve. So
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  Speaker 7: I think it's the grand conspiracy theory in itself.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Well, humanity cannot exist without Adam or Eve, so
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  Speaker 5: it's a duality of both their sins that contributes to
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  Speaker 5: what we have as original sin.
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  Speaker 7: Today, absolutely, and without it we would not exist. However,
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  Speaker 7: it's what actually feeds in the doubt and the pride
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  Speaker 7: all go together with the actual sin, making more sin,
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  Speaker 7: because then you have all these other guilt shame blah
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  Speaker 7: blah blah blah blah. It's what keeps us down, right,
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  Speaker 7: That's that's how who uses that? That's not Jesus. Jesus
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  Speaker 7: isn't using.
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  Speaker 9: That, you know.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, and I think too that us, being of
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  Speaker 10: a prideful nature causes us to actually send more because
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  Speaker 10: we all think we know better and most of the times,
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  Speaker 10: and this came from a friend of mine who said
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  Speaker 10: it perfectly, instead of leading through the soul, we lead
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  Speaker 10: through our ego, and so because of our pride, we
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  Speaker 10: won't let our ego go to let somebody else be
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  Speaker 10: in control.
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  Speaker 5: It's a weird dichotomy the idea of pride, because a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people value pride in themselves to their herd
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  Speaker 5: efforts and things they've achieved in life. But I think
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  Speaker 5: it's a balancing actors. Where does pride become the sin
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  Speaker 5: of pride? A quick example would be how many times
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  Speaker 5: do you anecdotally hear about a husband or a wife
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  Speaker 5: starts going to the gym, gets really fit, starts to
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  Speaker 5: take care of themselves in their health, and then they
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  Speaker 5: take too much pride in their appearance and that allows
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  Speaker 5: them to almost stray from their marriage, and then we
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  Speaker 5: have things like cheating on spouses and these types of
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  Speaker 5: things occur because they have a pride in their own appearance,
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  Speaker 5: and somehow they justify that as they can go off
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  Speaker 5: and they can get the women they always want it,
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  Speaker 5: and they turn that back on the loft of the head.
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  Speaker 8: Full or money. Money will do it every time in
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  Speaker 8: a relationship like I make more than you, therefore you're
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  Speaker 8: subservient to me. Whether it's the man or the woman
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  Speaker 8: whoever makes more money in the household, they always feel like, well,
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  Speaker 8: you know, you don't have to work because I make
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  Speaker 8: so much money, so you better do X, Y Z
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  Speaker 8: all these things I want you to do. But yeah,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, humans are wonderful, horrible, miraculous, and misguided. That's
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  Speaker 8: why we need Jesus.
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  Speaker 5: We need Jesus.
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  Speaker 4: Well, something that's interesting with the apple, or why we
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  Speaker 4: affiliate it with that fruit, is that Pythagoras basically said
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  Speaker 4: it's the five points of man, the three of the
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  Speaker 4: pentagram an equal male and then the two equals female
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  Speaker 4: can join together. And when you cut an apple ad
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  Speaker 4: it's equator, it equals five points. So that's why Nimrod's
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  Speaker 4: wife chose the pentagon gram as er sigil or the
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  Speaker 4: sigel of Asteroth. And I think that's interesting because a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people automatically affiliate Baphomet with Satan, and that's wrong.
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  Speaker 4: They would conect more so to the tri Hermes, with
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  Speaker 4: the whole phrase of as above so below and what
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  Speaker 4: where do we see on his forehead right there in
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  Speaker 4: the center pineal gland ascending. And if you're familiar with
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  Speaker 4: something translating into Hebrews, six sixty six is a number
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  Speaker 4: of the beast. Sixty's one six is the number of
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  Speaker 4: some a follower of the beast, and one can equal
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  Speaker 4: I or A and again peneal gland ascending.
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  Speaker 6: It's the god number.
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  Speaker 4: When you multiply thirty three times two for Masonic a
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  Speaker 4: equals sixty six. What's missing the I in the middle
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  Speaker 4: when you do that for the skull and bones that
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  Speaker 4: the skull or the bones crossed equals times, so three
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  Speaker 4: times twenty two sixty six.
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  Speaker 6: What's missing the I? And that's all.
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  Speaker 4: Ultimately, what it comes down to is the pride of
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  Speaker 4: man and materialism, and that's going to be the great
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  Speaker 4: illusion over the hearts and minds of men. Solve was
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  Speaker 4: bringing the anti crist into existence. And whereas Coagula on
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  Speaker 4: Bafomet's tattoo is blood Clyte. So the third phase is
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  Speaker 4: already incoming, and a lot of people don't seem to
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  Speaker 4: realize the pride of life is very much seen in
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  Speaker 4: our everyday culture. People becoming lovers of themselves and materialism
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  Speaker 4: rather than lovers of God.
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  Speaker 5: I would almost of that equate it so, and I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to diminish pride as a sin by any means,
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  Speaker 5: but it seems like a low level entry sin like
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  Speaker 5: that incrementalism, because there's plenty of non Christians out they're
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  Speaker 5: lovely people I know who wouldn't harm a fly, They
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  Speaker 5: love people, they help their community, they do all these
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  Speaker 5: what you would see as a strong moral compass enacted
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  Speaker 5: in their everyday life. But it's those entry level sins
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  Speaker 5: of pride, like you said, keeping up with the joneses
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  Speaker 5: of having the brand new car that everyone else has
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  Speaker 5: the idea of consumerism as being this enabler of pride
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  Speaker 5: that can be the gateway to more nefarious evil way
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  Speaker 5: in which sin can take hold of mankind. And I
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  Speaker 5: really do feel sorry for people who don't have a
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  Speaker 5: faith in it, because from their perspective, they're doing all
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  Speaker 5: the right things. They're taking care of their families, they
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  Speaker 5: love their loved ones, they're helping their community, they're living
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  Speaker 5: as best as they say fit. But there's still, as
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  Speaker 5: John put it, there's elements of this spiritual war. Well,
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  Speaker 5: whatever reason they can't say they don't have their night
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  Speaker 5: vision goggles on to see the vietcom coming over the
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  Speaker 5: hill at night. They don't see that hidden side of things.
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  Speaker 7: M And that's like all the.
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  Speaker 8: One physical things in the world. Sorry, go ahead, Heidi.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, I was just going to say, the one sin
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  Speaker 7: that will accompany the good church goers that drew mentions
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  Speaker 7: is other than pride, is usually lost. I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 7: I don't know how many times you see like the
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  Speaker 7: pastor's wife did what with who or whatever whatever. None
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  Speaker 7: of us are perfect. I'm not saying that, but like
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  Speaker 7: it sneaks in the back door.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's kind of like what I was going to say.
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  Speaker 8: It's like all the physical things of the world are
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  Speaker 8: the attack on the spiritual. The spiritual world because lust, money, pride,
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  Speaker 8: like your physical appearance, all these things that tie you
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  Speaker 8: to the physical world attack you in the spiritual world
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  Speaker 8: because if there was no money and you had to
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  Speaker 8: just like somebody because you loved them and they were
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  Speaker 8: a good person, or if you weren't looking at their
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  Speaker 8: physical body, you know, people may not even be in
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  Speaker 8: the marriages that they're in if there wasn't a physical
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  Speaker 8: component to it, or a money or a lustful component
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  Speaker 8: to it. So we're even a pride full component to it.
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  Speaker 8: So it's it's how do you train your mind to
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  Speaker 8: not care about this physical world so much that you
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  Speaker 8: would give it all up for your spiritual health. I
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  Speaker 8: guess that's like a huge problem with everybody think.
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  Speaker 4: I think that taps into the rich man aspect as
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  Speaker 4: well as like, I've already been doing all this stuff
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  Speaker 4: since my youth. What more must I do to be perfect? Followers?
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  Speaker 4: Like can get rid of your materialism? And he couldn't.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's where a lot of people in
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  Speaker 4: the modern church, they're like Lot's wife, they have to
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  Speaker 4: look one more time at side and Gamora like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I think would I'd be missing instead of just focusing
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  Speaker 4: straight ahead?
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  Speaker 5: You didn't want to be the last person not to
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  Speaker 5: see the end trailer on a Marvel movie brand and
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  Speaker 5: come on, it's like everyone has to say that clip.
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  Speaker 8: I always stay, you.
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  Speaker 6: Have to see the credits?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, right, Well, I've always looked at the original sin
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  Speaker 9: issue as sort of a raw deal, like I'm born
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  Speaker 9: into this fallen world, separated from God because these two
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  Speaker 9: people back here had to engage in all this activity,
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  Speaker 9: and so it's taken me a lifetime for God to
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  Speaker 9: bring me to the place where he finally spoke to me,
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  Speaker 9: and he said, do you have any other questions before
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  Speaker 9: you'd be ready to follow me? And it was at
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  Speaker 9: that point that I was able to surren under this
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  Speaker 9: whole pursuit for knowledge to know God, because I believe
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  Speaker 9: at this point in my life you can know God,
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  Speaker 9: but you can't understand it. The Gospel is a power gospel.
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  Speaker 9: This is the key that Paul said is the Kingdom
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  Speaker 9: of Heaven is not in word, but is in power.
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  Speaker 9: And you cannot use reason to understand signs and wonders
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  Speaker 9: and miracles. You have to abandon reason. And this whole
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  Speaker 9: realm has so many questions, like if God knows everything
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  Speaker 9: he knew when he created Adam, and if they were
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  Speaker 9: going to do this thing and he created him anyway
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  Speaker 9: and plunged untold millions, maybe billions of people to go
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  Speaker 9: to eternity without him and he did it anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to put that in.
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  Speaker 9: I have no possible answer for that one box, and
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  Speaker 9: I'm going to decide my prayer every day is God
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  Speaker 9: accept your terms. And that's brought me a lot of peace.
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  Speaker 10: You know that thing that I think is beautiful about
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  Speaker 10: us being born into sin is the fact that yes,
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  Speaker 10: he knew that we were going to send in the
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  Speaker 10: first place, but that also gives him the opportunity for
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  Speaker 10: us to go through sanctification to get right, to do right,
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  Speaker 10: because nobody's going to be sanctified right off the bat, right,
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  Speaker 10: And like somebody that's cussed their whole entire life, you
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  Speaker 10: can't expect him to like stop cussing all together, like
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  Speaker 10: break the second. Sometimes it's a process and it takes
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  Speaker 10: a while to you know, to do these things. And
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  Speaker 10: that's why I think with the with being born into sin,
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  Speaker 10: he knew we were going to do it, but it's
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  Speaker 10: his opportunity to work on us and to bring us
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  Speaker 10: to where we need to be through out.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's a beautiful creation, like right, like you
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  Speaker 7: know that your kids are going to do some messed
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  Speaker 7: up crap, Like my kids have really hurt me and
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  Speaker 7: I wouldn't take them back. It's like even the one
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  Speaker 7: that's hurt me the most, you know, like whatever.
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  Speaker 5: At the same time, it's not a free reign to go. Hey,
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  Speaker 5: we live in a realm where we're predisposed to sin,
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  Speaker 5: so it's okay to sin. It's a case of recognizing
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  Speaker 5: your sin. We know as human beings where it's going
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  Speaker 5: to happen. Everyone sins, every single human being. It's going
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  Speaker 5: to happen in some way some fashion. It's recognizing your
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  Speaker 5: own sin and then doing something about it.
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  Speaker 10: That's the thing, or asking God to reveal your sin
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  Speaker 10: to you, because some people don't know, they don't know
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  Speaker 10: what it is they did wrong, especially, or they don't
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  Speaker 10: know what, don't know where to go.
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  Speaker 7: Mm hmm exactly.
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  Speaker 5: So I want to come back to what John just
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  Speaker 5: said about the idea of it not being fair. And
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  Speaker 5: I recognize this as a teacher because we see children
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  Speaker 5: as humans. We have this innate curiosity to try and
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  Speaker 5: understand to conceptualize the world around us, and children are
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  Speaker 5: very very adamant about what is fair and what is unfair.
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  Speaker 5: And this topic equation of we're in a world where
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  Speaker 5: we're going to sin and it wasn't our choice, it
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  Speaker 5: was sins of the father essentially through Adam. Why are
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  Speaker 5: we being held accountable for someone else's actions? And kids
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  Speaker 5: do that as well. A kid who's a part of
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  Speaker 5: a group that does something naughty or bad often gets
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  Speaker 5: tired with the same feathers at brush and feathers, so
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  Speaker 5: they don't understand that. And I think as adults through faith,
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  Speaker 5: that is a big revelation try and come to because
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  Speaker 5: I myself, I'm very logically minded. I'm driven by reason
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: as well, and this is one of the hardest things
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: for me to conceptualize is why would we be held
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: accountable for sins of our ancestors, the first ancestors of mankind.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: I think that's something that people looking from the outside
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: at churches and religion and faith in general, that's one
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: of the big things that they find as a bit
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: of a bugbear with Christianity, that why would you follow
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: a faith when you're already demonized from the start. And
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: that's a really good talking point for people that you
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: don't have to understand God's creations, his meanings, his intentions,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: because how could we possibly do that as physical beings
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: with this ethereal creator of everything. We can't possibly pretend
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: to understand his thinking behind anything. We can have theories,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: we can postulate ideas, but the end of the day,
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: all we're going to do is keep going around in
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: circles trying to understand intelligence that is greater than ourselves.
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I've never really looked at it like that. Maybe
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: I'm just naive, but I feel like even if it
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: wasn't for Adam and Eve, we would still have problems
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: because we're humans, and humans live to be problems for
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: themselves and others. Like I feel like, even if it
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: wasn't Adam and Eve who did it, it would have
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: been somebody and we'd still be paying for it because
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: people be people. And and I feel like a lot
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: of the times when people come to Christianity and they
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: find God and they're reborn, their story is so beautiful
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: and it helps so many people and their struggle. There's
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: like beauty in their struggle and finding Christ, And so
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: I don't know if I would change anything about it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: I feel like all the internal struggles and battles that
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: people go through and their lives make them that the
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: people that they are. And it's so crazy how much
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: impact one person can have on like many, many, many people.
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: And so if it was just made so easy for
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: us from the very beginning, would it even hit the same, Like,
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: would it even be as meaningful if we were just
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: given a free pass from the very start and we
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: had nothing to humble us, nothing to learn from, no
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: mistakes made that we had to repent for. Like, what
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: would the development of humanity be if we were just
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: perfect all the time. I don't know it would be.
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: It's like a weird like Illuminati Utopia society right where
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: nobody does anything wrong. And I kind of like it
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: how it is now. I think people are so unique
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: and their stories are so beautiful, and we've all done
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: something that's made us be like Wow. If that never happened,
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't be this person that I am today that
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: I really like?
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Is it a case of this two battlefields going on
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: in this spiritual war. It's not just the world we're
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: born into that's the battlefield itself, the no man's land,
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: but the trenches of what happens within our own body
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: are in soul the temple. We've got two distinct battlefields.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: We've got the things we interact with, and then it
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: ourselves is the most important line, because we're in the
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: trenches of our own body, are and soul fighting tooth
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: and nail against all these things being slung at us
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: from multiple directions. It's bigger than anyone can really understand.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: And the biggest part is the innite inner part of yourself,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: your fight in this, not just your interactions with the
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: things outside.
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: If I may just talking with Gary, I have a
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: theory that if God is all knowing, and he has
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: a counsel in heaven, let's say the angels, and he
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: knows there's going to be a little bit of a coup,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: if you will, he decides to go six days creation. Okay,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: there we go, and he knows that there's going to
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: be Hey, maybe I could use this in part of
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: my coup with Satan going down to manipulating even the
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: garden of Eden. So all this goes down. Now we
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: get to the Prodigal Sun narrative, and look at that
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: from a spiritual perspective, because we get Genesis six 's
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: four that the sons of God came down, had affairs
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: of Dollar's men, nepheline and all that.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: So we get this whole spiritual battle.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: He gets the Israelites to wipe out the the inhabitants
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: of Canaan or all they're intermingling with these demonic beings.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: And then eventually we get to the New Testament.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Behold what mayor the love of the Father that we
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Christians should be called the sons of God, and Saul
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: made two. We sit in judgment over them. So it
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: kind of makes me wonder, is that why he created man.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I'm going to create something else because I need to
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: replace a council that's rebellious to me. I want them
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: to prove that they're loyal to me in this earth.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I need to have a testing ground to see if
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: they loved me. If they chose the Father's son be
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: a communion, they have a whole marriage ceremony aspect that
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: I've referred to before.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: I want to know if they're going to choose.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: That gift as opposed to these other ones that said
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: they can ascend like the God most High, or they
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: all fall in line of Lucifer's classic line. So I
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: kind of wonder if that's almost the reason why he
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: created Man. But it's also it's a per individual case.
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: God is totally I'd led to aimen that to the
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: max because Job chapter Job chapter one gives us the
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: insight of what you just shared, Brandon, that God is
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: up in the throne, and here comes the sons of
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: God and Satan also, and God initiates a convo with
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: Satan and he brings up Job, not Satan. So apparently,
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: I don't want to say God had a chip on
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: his shoulder, but he had this I call it an
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: intergalactic debate going on.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Apparently.
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's the only conclusion you could draw. And
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: he starts bragging on Job and he's like, have you
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: seen my servant Job? He's the bomb, right, And then
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: then Satan Satan is like, no, he just serves you
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: because you bless him. And God violated his own principles
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: to prove a point that man will serve him even
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: if everything isn't lined up. Yes, And so I think
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: that that passage is probably one of the most important
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: passages in the entire Bible because it explains all of
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: the mess wor it. Like you said, it's a test
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: and we're being proven. Are we going to worship him
• 25:15
  Speaker 9: because we've met him in the prayer closet, we have
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: a personal relationship with him. We know he's not Moloch,
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: so it doesn't matter what goes on around me. I
• 25:25
  Speaker 9: know he's good and I will not let go of that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Amen.
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, wow, Brandon brought up the hizzler. That's good. We
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: choose still love God. Yeah, despite how sure that stuff
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: we are and how messed up our lives are. Like
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: the angels were like we love God, but like I
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: could probably do it better. And then God created us
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: and we love him despite our human nature.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been watching him for six days now. I'm
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: pretty sure I know what he does, so I can
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: just copy that. It's fine.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Well, it's also with the whole God consciousness movement. It's
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: about the eye. You know, I can do it myself.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: I don't really need him, or I can just have
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: him dwell me. But or they again, it's all warped
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: to the degree. But that's kind of what the movement is,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: and that's the that's the movement of demons, is that
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: you can do it yourself. It goes right back to
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: the Garden of Eden when people are telling me, it's like,
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: how do you know God exists? Because the same life
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: is still going on, it hasn't changed.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: That's a Mormonism in a nutshell too, Like you got
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: to earn your way, you got to do it yourself.
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: You you gotta make that change, you gotta there's no
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: grace just given me. Like you've got to make enough
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: money and if you're ten cents short, that's when God
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: will chip in. And that's literally how they put it,
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: and I'm like, that's not how it works, you guys,
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: but you know that's a good person. But that's kind of.
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: Like the basis of the New Age stuff that's coming
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: in nowadays, and it's like based on prosperity and wealth
• 26:56
  Speaker 10: doctrines and you know, all these things. When you look
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: at it, it's like an abandonment of God and it's
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: all about like you and your your your ego and
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: yourself and what can you do for yourself? You know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 10: when we should be as human beings focusing on how
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: can we serve God and how can we serve other people?
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: I love that. I just I love that theory that
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: you've put forward, Brandon, because it makes sense for humanity
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: to try and unpack that. More so, I'm thinking that
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: that's a great way to flush out the centers that
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: you know are going to appear. You've got this counsel. Traditionally,
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: our human understanding is a counsel is there to advise,
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: help you, support you on something that's something being mankind.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: That counsel is there to help support mankind. If your
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: counsel starts acting in ways that aren't in the best
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: interests of mankind in your creation. It's pretty easy to
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: acknowledge and notify and point out who the bad elements are,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: who the bad apples in the cart are perfectly my
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: friend perfect.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: And it does make the frodigles. Oh sorry, I make
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: the film.
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it makes.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: The fulfillment of curly like I am my own star,
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: I am, I am, I am, and you are and
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: me and I am in you and his whole dumb
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: speech that even Hitler gave and it's all the same.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: It's yucky. I don't like it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, grows and I'm Stars of Hollywood and that's where
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: everybody gravitates. Hef I could become my own star, celebrity,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Hollywood Walk of Fame. It's like, guys, that means they
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: just reached the higher tier world. You're going good for them.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: They really deserved it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: Just like that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: Well, and I want to say to this has come
• 28:46
  Speaker 10: up actually in Congress before, where a certain female political
• 28:52
  Speaker 10: later that's very old said that we all have a
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: spark of divinity in us. No, we were made from God,
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: but we are not God's at all by any means.
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: And any time you compare that we will fall short
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: because we are so focused on living through our fleshly
• 29:16
  Speaker 10: desires instead of spiritual desires.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Is this where we see the modern day nomenclature, which
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: is a misinterpretation. God helps those who help themselves. That
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: almost becomes the springboard for people going through that error
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: of pride and the self. The ego gets driven through
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: that because they almost justify if God wants to help me,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: I can take it upon myself to do all the
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: things that God is intended for me. They self justify
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: their actions that way, the only thing.
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: That's socially acceptable. You can climb a ladder all day
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: long and still look amazing at church on Sunday with
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: your brown new Alexis and your brand new Jimmy choos.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: You will still get that adoration. That is the truth.
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: And you should have spent that two thousand dollars you
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: blue on those shoes on helping some people eat, because
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: that's ridiculous. I'm sorry, No, I like having nice things,
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: but that's ridiculous. That's too. Mr.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: Great.
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: You can help people, and everybody wants to be their
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: own God. But like Janet said, we're supposed to serve others.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: How are we ever serving others if we're all so
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: self focused. Like I'm not saying don't ever buy yourself something.
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying any of that. I'm just saying, when
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: it gets to that level, when you need a pair
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: of shoes that were probably made at the same place,
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: the same factory, the same everything as the payless shoe store,
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: they just paint at the bottom, like what level have
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: we gone to?
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: Well, that's the thing, though, that we're programmed, though, we're
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: programmed to want those things. And I actually I've been
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: kind of on this weird thing with my husband lately
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: because I feel like when you wear brands, you're branding yourself,
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: like you're yoking to them, like you're giving So you
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: wear like the Nike and like all you brand yourself
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: with it, and even buying like Jimmy Choo, Like you said,
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: I spent X amount of money that I worked my
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: life hours. I gave part of my life hours for
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: this dollar amount to give to you for this bloody
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: shoe like this, that's crazy to me, Like I'm cool
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: to like shop at the thrift store whatever. I'll let
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: somebody else buy it new with the full twenty and
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: I'll pay ten for it after you've already got all
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: the demons out of it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Well, likensand yeah, you don't
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: have things you like or if they're good quality, some
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: things are better quality. Like I get it, but like
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: when you seventy dollar pair of Nikes, it's not the
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: same as a two thousand dollars pair of pumps. Like,
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: we've got to get to some level here where things
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: are not crazy.
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: You know, I no, I feel you. I just I'm
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: weird about brands.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: It.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: No, I get I get what you're saying. No, I
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: get what you're saying, because it's all demonic. If you
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: look up every single one of them, they're all all
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: the symbolism. Brandon could do a whole show on it.
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: It's crazy.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: It makes you.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: Get just shave our heads and join a monastery. It's
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: all over.
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's I mean, because you see it everywhere once
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: you know, it makes you kind of nuts. But like
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: at the end of the day, also, we can't escape
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: it because like you said, we'd have to shave our
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: heads and wear a sheet.
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: Like right, I'm not saying we're a trash bag, but
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: I'm just saying, be aware, be aware that's all.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: Well, it deifinitely isn't the place to stop spreaking the
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: merch store in this episode, is it?
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: I mean depends on is it two thousand dollars or no?
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: No, I think it's five twenty five. Everybody, teacher, you're okay,
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: You're okay, and.
• 32:51
  Speaker 10: You you ladies, You ladies make a good point. And
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: here's something that I think about that for the people
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: out there, male or female, who are dead set on
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: you can only wear Jimmy choose, you can only carry
• 33:08
  Speaker 10: a proud of perse or the guys you know with
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: their sneakers and stuff. To me, it's a form of
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: idolatry because you constantly seek out that and put that
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: above God. And that's that's a problem. That's a problem
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: for a lot of people.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: But we also say that we have people have followers.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: They always call them followers is almost some kind of
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: religious connotation. I like to use listeners listening to my show.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: I hate the term followers.
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: Some I like to say friends because I am in
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: contact with people that actually listen to the show. And
• 33:53
  Speaker 10: Heidi and I've talked about this before, but it can
• 33:55
  Speaker 10: be very cultish in in the podcast world and there
• 34:01
  Speaker 10: are idols that people look up to, just like they idolize,
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: you know, movie stars or sports people or whatever. There's
• 34:10
  Speaker 10: the same kind of thing in the podcast community. People
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: have to be careful.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: So as soon as I start saying people walking around
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: with glasses and fike red beads, that's when I should
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: give up the show.
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: I don't know, it depends ask him if there're being
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: Chris from Operation Red Pill or you.
• 34:33
  Speaker 9: I'd like to say something regarding the consumerism as a believer.
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: In twenty twenty four, I remember reading Fox's Book of
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: the Martyrs and this one guy, he was a believer.
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: He's going to be burned at the steak and he
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: goes up there and he's like, Oh, there's so much
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: wood here. You could give half of this wood away
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: and still burn me.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Just grace. There you go.
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: I think it depends on where you are in the
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: station in life. Like God may call you to run
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: for public office, let's say, and the clothes that you're
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: gonna have to buy for that journey is gonna be
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: different than the guy that's called to the hills of
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: Mexico as a missionary. So you can't really cookie cutter.
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: The hell you know, should I have a nice suit
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: or whatever thing. But it does definitely teach modesty in
• 35:26
  Speaker 9: the Bible. So Kenneth Goplin has a personal networth of
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: seven hundred and fifty million dollars. That's not his ministry's value,
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: that's his personal networth.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: So that's that's bad. Juju.
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: We can, like, you can see his eyeballs.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: He and he did.
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: It's like weird stuff, like talk about like, oh, you know,
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: me and Jesus and I had a dream and I
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: was in heaven and we were dunking each other in
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: the fountains. I'm like, what is this? Like, this is stupid,
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: this is crazy.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, American Christianity is at a whole different level to
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: the rest of the world.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: It's so wild.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: And that's sometimes why I do post is because I'm
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: not trying to get followers. I'm trying to make sure,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Like for instance, today's was jeering on the patriotism aspect
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: and everybody even trying to give me a satire perspective. Comeback,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you're basically telling me you love your patriotism
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: more than Christ. He says, I'm going to always advocate
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Christ over whatever politics there are I'm not going left.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to lessener two evils. I'm not emphasizing
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: one candidate of the other. What I'm asking you, if
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: this country is destined to follow all the whole world
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: in general, where's your faith at the end of the day.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Do you Are you more loyal to your flag, your
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: ribbons and put banners or are you actually saying I'm
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: okay with it falling because I know where my eternity
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: is at. And that's what it comes down to, folks.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: It's like, it's not about the followers, it's are you
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: getting the message? Because I'm not pointing at me, I'm
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: pointing at him. And if you're not getting that, then
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: you're a following for the wrong reasons. And that's honestly
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: sometimes why I do those posts when I get a
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: lot of followers, because I want to make sure where's
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: your heart at?
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: Can I get height?
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Mile?
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: You're not doing it right exactly?
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're in trouble all the time.
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: I actually think John's been in the naughty corner quite
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: a lot too. Didn't you get Shadow band a ton to.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Oh me?
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 37:29
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I've been and I've been actually pretty pretty
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: fortunate with YouTube. I haven't gotten a strike or anything
• 37:36
  Speaker 9: in seven years because I've kind of stuck on one
• 37:38
  Speaker 9: topic the whole time. So they apparently are letting me
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: slide for now.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: But I don't know. My days are numbered.
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they probably are.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: Don't talk to me and Drew.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: People get a contact shadow band just by locking my posts.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: That's why I took my YouTube channel down.
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: I was like, I'm so over this. I'm good.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 38:04
  Speaker 9: I set up a podcast, the Conspiracy Theorist Survival Guide Podcast,
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: and then I have I do plan to move over
• 38:10
  Speaker 9: to Rumble starting next week. Actually, we're going to start
• 38:13
  Speaker 9: doing stuff over there because it's just inevitable. Their community
• 38:16
  Speaker 9: guidelines now say you can't pray for the SEC because
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: that's a medical misinformation.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Okay, Jee, not at all on an attack on Christianity.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: Does anyone else have anything else to add to the
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: original sin before we move on to our next topic
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: at all? Any last bits you've been wanting to get
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: out during this conversation. No, okay, let's move on to lust.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Sexualization of mankind in Corinthians six eighteen through twenty states
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: flee from sexual morality every other sin a person commits
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: is outside the body. But the sexually immoral person sins
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: against their own body. Or do you not know that
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: your body is a temp of the Holy Spirit within you,
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: whom you have from God. You are not your own,
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: but you were brought with a price, So glorify God
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: in your body. Our modern world is surrounded by sexual immorality,
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: sexual innuendo, and advertising. After all, the modern day saying
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: is sex sells. We are bombarded with historical truths of
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: modern day propaganda raging from the world's oldest profession to
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: self love. Is there anyone that modern man is lost
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: amongst the propaganda war being thrown at us from every
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: aspect of society. Far more often than not, the outsiders
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: believe a Christian. Their belief in relation to sex is
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: generally that it's a sin. Yet it is God's own
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: words from Genesis one twenty eight that say, and God
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: bless them, And God said unto them, be fruitful and multiply,
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: and repurnish the earth and subdue it, and have dominion
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: of the air, and over every living thing that moveth
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: upon the earth. So sex, isn't this immoral?
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Horrible practice.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: It's the manner in which it's been corrupted and used
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: in the modern day. So who would like to start
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: on this one?
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: I just want to say, as an opener, you said
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: the sex sells thing, and it immediately made me think
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: of something. There's an attack on the family, there's an
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: attack on women's fertility. It's harder and harder for women
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: to get and stay pregnant. But sex is like at
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: an all time high of like just the act of sex,
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: Like have sex with everyone you can as often as
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: you can, and show your bits and pieces on every
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: platform you can. But you can't have a family. You
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: shouldn't get married and what like who wants to have
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: kids anymore? Like it's so perverted that sex sex, sex, sex, sex,
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: no family, no fertility, Like all this stuff is going on,
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: and there's poison in everything we eat, and there's poison
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: and all this stuff women put all over their bodies.
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: And so it's just interesting to me how we've gotten
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: here where it's like it's all about sex, but not
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: about kids, not about love, not about family, And it's
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: the actual inverse of that scripture you just read.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I'll just going to quickly say that the message
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: a lot of young men seem to get is why
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: buy the cow and you can get the milk for free.
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: That's what I was just going to say that, along
• 41:30
  Speaker 10: with what Julia said and what you said, Drew, is
• 41:34
  Speaker 10: that people don't hold the sanctity of marriage anymore as
• 41:40
  Speaker 10: as you know where it should be.
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: And we run into this a lot in.
• 41:46
  Speaker 10: Our daily lives where we will meet couples that are
• 41:49
  Speaker 10: married and it's like they they don't like each other,
• 41:53
  Speaker 10: they don't like to spend time together, and so the
• 41:57
  Speaker 10: woman goes out does her thing, the man goes out
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: and does his thing, and communication breaks down and and
• 42:05
  Speaker 10: you really don't know why they're together in the first place,
• 42:08
  Speaker 10: and so there's no there's definitely no procreation going on
• 42:13
  Speaker 10: there in a relationship where it's that broken, where you
• 42:17
  Speaker 10: don't trust each other to be one like you're supposed
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: to be when you get married.
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: And do you know what the kids call it?
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: You know they used to say, like how many notches
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: on your belt? Does anybody know what the kids call
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: on your belt? Now? Yeah?
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: Body count?
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: Body disgusting count, like they're dead, Like they're dead. And
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: I'm like, what.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: Bring slang wood rats, doesn't it?
• 42:50
  Speaker 11: Oh my god, oh I love it it?
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: My niece.
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: My niece asked my son my body count was, and
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: I was like, girl, aby ever, this is something unique.
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: Talk to me al teacher about because I share.
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: You murder podcast the first thing what you do murder
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: podcasts was the first thing you thought of, Like, I've
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: never killed anyone.
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: Body we know of. She explained it to me. I
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: was like, girl, you are too young to be worried
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: about counting anybody's body. Keep your own body, body of one,
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: and cry count your body. Yeah, I about.
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: I was shocked when this came up. And then my
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: son was like, oh, it doesn't matter anymore, like girls
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: don't even keep it like and I always ask him
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: like why don't we date more girls than He's like,
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: have you seen high school? No? He's like I'll just wait.
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: He's like, it isn't that important. It's fine.
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: He's like so.
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: Distraught about the people that are and this isn't a
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: very like we live in Utah, this is a very
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: conservative area ish and he's like, mom, it's just not
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: even no. He's like, you have no idea, and I'm like, great,
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: He's like it's that's kind of a beautiful thing though,
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: because that's an indication of the way that he was raised,
• 44:26
  Speaker 10: because that's what we're supposed to do, is raise up
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: our children in the ways of God. And he's recognizing
• 44:34
  Speaker 10: that that he's important enough to wait until God provides
• 44:39
  Speaker 10: him with the proper partner.
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: Brings a rightful thing.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: It brings up a great parallel though the idea that
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: you mentioned the conservative group. But there's still that sexual
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: immorality that goes on. Now this is before I found God,
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: so please don't judge me too much. I will admit
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: this that as a young guy from a part as
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: quits the targets the girls that were the easier ones
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: to get with, the Catholic school girls, oh boy, because
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: they put out in that same stuf.
• 45:09
  Speaker 10: I's gonna say, I know, I know what you're saying
• 45:13
  Speaker 10: because I went to Catholic school and there were It
• 45:18
  Speaker 10: wasn't me, so don't think that, but there were like
• 45:21
  Speaker 10: people that I went to school with. They were the
• 45:24
  Speaker 10: very first ones to get pregnant and have kids out
• 45:28
  Speaker 10: of wedlock all the time, hands down, because it was
• 45:32
  Speaker 10: easy because they I don't know if it's because people
• 45:34
  Speaker 10: were so like pent up from being so controlled that
• 45:40
  Speaker 10: they just all went berserk.
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: I don't know, it's all about good.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: There are too sheltered.
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: It's the forbidden fruit. Like you say, don't do this,
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: don't do this, don't do this, and all you have
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: on your mind is doing it. And that's how all
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: little kids are. You're like, don't touch the hot stove.
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: Don't touch the hot stove. There goes there freaking little
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: end up there trying to get over to it. And
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: that's how it is. Like I'm not saying that. You know,
• 46:05
  Speaker 8: everyone is juvenile, but if you keep telling someone don't
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: do this, don't do this, don't do this, that's the
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: first thing on their mind that they want to do.
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: And I grew up in church. I get it. The
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: church girls are the freak eliques. Like they were so
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: ready to get like out of their parents' house and
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: they can't tell me what to do anymore, and I'm
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: going to do my own thing and whatever. But you know,
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: as adults, I'm still friends with a lot of those people,
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: and they're like, I, if I could go back in time,
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: I probably wouldn't have been so like Cray And I'm like, yeah,
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: same here, Yeah, seeing psychi.
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: For John, this topic is the same as the original
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: syn topic. For me, like God, I'm like Abraham, I'm
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: just dust. But I'd like to ask you something. If
• 46:55
  Speaker 9: I ran the universe, I would do it differently, Like
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: you give me this mos and then I'm only allowed
• 47:02
  Speaker 9: to drive it around like five miles an hour, and
• 47:04
  Speaker 9: then you come over to the New Testament. It's worse
• 47:07
  Speaker 9: because Jesus says, if you look upon a woman to lust,
• 47:11
  Speaker 9: you've committed adulty. So the standard that God has for
• 47:16
  Speaker 9: his creation is so narrow that it seems impossible. But
• 47:23
  Speaker 9: it can't be impossible because it's in the book. So
• 47:27
  Speaker 9: this is a big one. This is what Jonathan Edwards
• 47:29
  Speaker 9: calls bosom sins. They're lodged deep within our heart and
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: it is another one of those tests where you are
• 47:37
  Speaker 9: required to die to self. Like nobody's business on this front,
• 47:41
  Speaker 9: because it's always there, you know. It's not like a
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: drug you got to go get. This is a big problem.
• 47:49
  Speaker 9: In fact, I just saw the Hotel Association had a
• 47:54
  Speaker 9: report that the highest use of pornography was during Christian conferences.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Every time christ Yeah.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Is this the.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: Subtle and conniving way that the bad guy quotes uses
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: against us, because I would go as far as to
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: say that, not to be crude, the feeling of sex
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: is a gift from God, especially when it's with your
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: loved partner and you're going through the motions of prey, creation, starting,
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: and family. The feeling you get from it is a
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: gift from God. So to turn something that's supposed to
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: be pure and feels good into almost like an addictive drug,
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: something you chase, like multiple sexual partners having sex, going
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: swiping rights, all these types of things we see in
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: modern sexual culture. It's just emphasizing and manipulating, weaponizing the
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: good and the true aspects of it, and inverting it.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: Sorry, I've talked a lot.
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: Go ahead, John, I was just going to say.
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: I saw this book in the library bookstore. It was
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: on Satanism, and it said the purpose of Satanism is
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: self indulgence. So therefore, by deduction, the purpose of Christianity
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: is self denial. And if you have ever gone on
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: a fast, when you come off it, everything tastes phenomenal.
• 49:16
  Speaker 9: So there's certain laws at work in this realm that
• 49:20
  Speaker 9: the less you do something, the more enjoyable it is.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: So part of the.
• 49:24
  Speaker 9: Whole of abstinence requirement is actually the doorway to a
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: fulfilling life. It isn't addiction and indulgence. And I've I've
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: drank the cup of devils down to the bottom and
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: it leaves you empty and it doesn't work. So God's
• 49:42
  Speaker 9: plan works, but it ain't easy.
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: Within the realm of sex. We see the exact opposite
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: with people who suffer from sex addiction.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: They have it so.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: Often in so many ways, they need more and more
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: perverse ways of getting off. It's that pipeline going down
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: to the most bizarre, crazy, heinous things you could ever
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: think of, because everything else is van Nila nail.
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: And then you get a serial killer because they that's
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: the next step. It's death. It's like, it doesn't do
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: it for me unless they're dead, and then they have
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: sex with the dead bodies, and then you it like
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: goes into like necrophilia and like that that is straight
• 50:17
  Speaker 8: up demonic, Like you've now opened a doorway and you
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: have now become host for a demonic being to enter
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: your body. You now have a parasitic, demonic infestation in
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: your body.
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: Well, and the fact is is, I'm sorry, like this
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: day and age, like porn is so accessible. And I
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: think it's funny because, as to Drew's point, when they're
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: sex addicts, right, they almost get immune. Go ask a
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: guy in acologist how he feels about seeing any more crotch. Okay,
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: he doesn't care. I work with him. They're like, it's
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: time to whatever, you know, who cares unless it's something
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: really horrible, like really, that's all. The only time is
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: if there's like a physical anomaly, not horrible, but like
• 51:10
  Speaker 7: something wrong. And so at that point you have to wonder,
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: why then do people just do it again and do
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: it again and do it again. Like, Okay, guys, I
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: get it. It's out there now. It's not a magazine
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: you have to go buy in the brown paper sack
• 51:26
  Speaker 7: at the corner. It's not humiliating like that anymore. But
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: also like, just try to not go down that realm because,
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: like you said, it leads to these weird octopus and
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: Asian girls stuff, weird stuff like just not normal, right,
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: it's weird.
• 51:43
  Speaker 8: Lane. It is especially laughing because Janet.
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: And I have pulled more foreign objects out of anyone
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: than you care to name.
• 51:52
  Speaker 12: And here's the thing, like people get crazy, you know, right,
• 51:57
  Speaker 12: that is true, and the amount of things that I
• 52:03
  Speaker 12: saw over the years that I'm like, what what.
• 52:08
  Speaker 10: Possessed you to do that? But we are so ingrained
• 52:12
  Speaker 10: to be like creatures of habit that people once they
• 52:18
  Speaker 10: watch porn one time, then they're hooked, and then they
• 52:22
  Speaker 10: have to check out literally every kind of porn they
• 52:26
  Speaker 10: can possibly think of, or you know, like Julia mentioning
• 52:32
  Speaker 10: about sex, and you know, when you have it a
• 52:34
  Speaker 10: long time or have it a lot, you've got to
• 52:37
  Speaker 10: do other things to get that same gratification that you
• 52:42
  Speaker 10: would if if you were abstaining or only doing it
• 52:48
  Speaker 10: with your partner. Because that's what we're supposed to be doing.
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: But for some reason, it's really hard for some people
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: to shut off that pleasure center in the brain and
• 53:03
  Speaker 10: just not.
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: Right. It's complete compulsion. Because the weirdest things is is
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: like they have all night stores for all kinds of apparatuses,
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: but the things that we pull out of people are
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: never the correct things that are supposed to be in there. Ever,
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: it's right, remote controls, cue balls, weird statue, toilet brush.
• 53:28
  Speaker 8: Hell no, that is so nasty. Oh my god, Brandon,
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: I need to hear your thoughts on all this, you've
• 53:37
  Speaker 8: been quiet too long?
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: What we're going.
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: To make an answer this?
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: No, I'm not gonna go on that.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: But as somebody who grew up in a home, or
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: my mother as opposed to coming forward and calling out
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: what my dad was doing, she went into alcoholism. And
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: I noted as as a writer, I tend to vent
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: in lyrical form, and one of the things that I
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: penned for that was when you're dead inside, you live.
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: For a thrill.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: And I think that's kind of what most of society is.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: They lack purpose. So this is what they've evolved into.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Is I need something. I need a stimulant, I need
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: an addiction, which will be phase three. But I honestly think,
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: and again, folks, don't take this the wrong way, ladies
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: in the room, I think this all started, especially in America,
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: with the rise of voting in feminism, and again I
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: don't believe in voting, so don't take this the wrong way.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: I think honestly, what they did they were like, okay,
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: we have slavery. We got little slavery. They did child labor.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: Then they got child labor, and everybody's like, okay, that's
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: a bad it. And nobody likes that, so what do
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: we do? So they're thinking, as they have these meetings
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: every year to dectermine what they're going to do with
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: the rest of this world.
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: They say, well, what if we give women the right
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: to vote? Why would we do that?
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, we could just gradually make them start
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: making them think, and you know that they can become independent,
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: they could become their own thing. That the Victorian London
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: rules of society that they're old. We don't need those anymore.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: So this is the first trigger. And then as we
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: keep on going, we get to the sexual revolution of
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: the seventies. Where's most of the men at that time
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: in America? They're over there fighting overseas, so the Holme
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: is already missing dad. The women now have doubled their workforce.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: They have slavery of people working in factories. Now they
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: need two people to work and so they're getting busy.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: They're getting consumed that I have to work in order
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: to make a living. Kids are now growing up with
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: one dad and they have the sexual revolution kicking in.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: I think that's phase two of feminism. So eventually, what
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: does this do. This starts creating a society in the
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: eighties I need a stimulant. I need something to make
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: me feel alive because I didn't have that dad figure,
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: I didn't have. I need to rebel. And then we
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: get the whole eighties rock session. Why because people were angry.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: They didn't have an outlet, so they started tapping into
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: the crazy occultic stuff and going to heavy rock music
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: because it made him feel alive. It stimulated something in them.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: And it's all by societal design. And now what do
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: we get in our today's society. We're impulsive with how
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: we come to a conclusion. We don't think with logic,
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: we think worth our emotions. It's a feministic society. Is
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: that we just automatically jump on board. Oh yeah, go
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: to war, do this, do that, And it's not should
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: we sit down and think about this spiritually? Should we
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: sit down and pray about what you know? For he
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: who seeks for wisdom, I will give it to him abundantly.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: We don't have that anymore.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: It's I'm my own man. I worked my own way
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: with women, It's I'm my own woman. But what do
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: we see like if they don't get a guy in
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: most of college, like from the ages of twenty one
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: to thirty. What do we see a skyrocketing statistics going
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: on for they adopt a dog? Why because it's compensating
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: for wanting to take care of a small mammal. There's
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: nothing wrong with that. That's a natural design to be
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: maternal to something. But now you're putting all that energy
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: onto an animal as opposed to nurturing a home. Why
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: because they've given you this Disney princess complex how to
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: think about relationships? And your expectations are so high for
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: the guy, and what's the guy do if I ask
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: her out at work? That's an HR harass report. So
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: they go home and become digital online warriors because it's
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: an outlet. It's I feel like I can conquer something
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: because I can't.
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: I can't deal with all of that.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: And then they become like I said, that's what would
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: gravitate them towards porn And we never talk about the
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: women aspect, but it was like, if that's what I
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: have to compete with, Like Heidi was saying, conservatives are
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: always saying like, we have values, we have this, but
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: the minute they lose an election, they're wearing the F
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: bomb on their T shirt and chanting that in a stadium.
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: I just want to watch the game with my kid.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: You think this is right, Well, no, that's what I'm saying.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: But I'm saying that's what we creative society. We don't
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: have any standards as conservatives. What are we conserving if
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: if we don't get our way, we just throw a
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: temper tantrum. And again, I'm not into politics, so don't
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: anybody take that the wrong way. I'm just saying how
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: I think that's influenced the church and how it's kind
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: of crept in and now it's mixed with our ideology
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: of you know, Jesus was a socialist and all this
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: other and actually.
• 57:53
  Speaker 8: For a Brandon really quick, oh, oh, really quick, I
• 57:57
  Speaker 8: have a question for Brandon. Oh, because I know, like
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: in Saudi Arabia they wear the saris and they cover
• 58:05
  Speaker 8: their face and they cover their head. I do like
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: anytime I watch like a Bible story, the women are
• 58:12
  Speaker 8: wearing something similar, and I feel like that was supposed
• 58:16
  Speaker 8: to because you're not supposed to be showing your bits
• 58:18
  Speaker 8: and parts and stuff like the clothing that's acceptable to
• 58:24
  Speaker 8: where now and like you're pretty much revealing everything and
• 58:29
  Speaker 8: I don't know, like is there anywhere in the Bible
• 58:32
  Speaker 8: where it says like you should cover your body like
• 58:35
  Speaker 8: that like women.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: It's implied by Paul that woman should at least cover
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: their hair. But I think that was more so is
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: because of the sins of the angels. It's it's semi
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: in that vein. I think it's basically, don't be showy,
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: don't wear things that are provocative, don't wear like you
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: were just stating earlier, don't wear things that are drawing
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: attention for the wrong reasons and wrong purposes. And I
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: think that is, honestly, what society has evolved into is
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: that they're they're doing that because they want the attention.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: But it's the wrong kind of attention. It's not proper,
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: it's not pure. And again that goes back into the communion.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: Dad would select and then they have the man drink
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: of the wine and then they look at her and say, hey,
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: you want to finish the rest of this class. If
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: you do, you're accepting the contract to this guy have selected.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: Whereas if you say no, it's fine, we go back
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: to the drying board. So for that it was like
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: it wasn't a patriarch society. It was I'm going to
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: select somebody. I'm going to get out all the extra
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: playing mind games and whatnot. I'm going to find somebody
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: that's got good character. He can provide for you. He's
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: going to you know why, because I care about your
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: purity as an individual. I know what you can contribute
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: to a home and in society. I'm watching out for
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: your well being to make sure you don't become somebody
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: that's judged like the woman at the well. That's what
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: that whole beauty of that ceremony. And again, when we're
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: as Christians choosing that cup, we're choosing the Father's son.
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: We're accepting that gift and all that comes with it.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: And that's again the garden that gets seventy's so beautiful,
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: he goes, Father, if you could let this cup pass
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: for me. I realized the responsibility that this is going on.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: And then what Paul writes, you know, the lay down
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: your life for the church. So I think, honestly, humility
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: is covering yourself up. But again you're not doing humility
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: as and you like describes and Pharisees covering yourself, but
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: you're doing it in the senses that I want to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: maintain my purity that's what the significance of a veil
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: is all about. And until that veils ripped into you're
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: not gonna understand what the gift of the Holy Spirit is.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: Well, even the idea of my cup was a magic
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: air quota by angels.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 8: Rotten right, whoa, whoa, let's back off this stuff now.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: I like, my name is every technology. So if we're
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: going to have homes and own things, then we and
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: then we women can give up the makeup because we're no.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 8: I respectfully disagree.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 7: I am so action. Yeah, you know, that's only if
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 7: we all were perfect, like and we gave up like
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: owning anything and like all this. There's a lot of
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: things that the angels gave us that we shouldn't have,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: including technology and what we're on right now. But I
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: do agree with Brandon, except for on one point on
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: the compulsion thought with women and having that be like
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: let's just go to war right now. Actually there is
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: far more compulsion in men, and as working in a
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: mental health facility, I can tell you compulsion and addiction
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 7: runs hard and strong in one sex over the other.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 7: I would say probably three to one. And so I'm
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: just saying that I think the combination of the two
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: was always meant to be on equal yeah, for sure.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 10: Well, and that's why, Yeah, I was going to say,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 10: that's why the union of marriage is so important, because
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 10: you've got nature and nurture together, and you're supposed to
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 10: come together to form one person. Yes, and so that's
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 10: you're supposed to balance each other out. But to Brandon's point,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 10: I agree with you on the feminism front, because when
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 10: all of that was brought forth, we forgot about, you know,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 10: the importance of our households and our and our families.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 10: And it's like, well, I'm just as important as my husband.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: Know.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 10: That is so anti biblical because the husband is the
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 10: head of the household. He is supposed to be the leader,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 10: the spiritual leader, and the teacher of the household. He's
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 10: supposed to be in charge.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: Which kind of comes back to the idea. It's a
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: political analogy from American context. A house divided cannot stand.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: If we don't have strong houses and strong families, how
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: are we ever going to have a strong society built
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: on a strong moral framework led by faith. It's perfect
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: for he's done that divided the man and the woman.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: It's absolutely shattered society.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 10: Right, and I will say I will say too that
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 10: in relationships where people are married and there's children from
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 10: previous marriages or whatever, if the spouse does not put
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 10: their spouse first, and they put their children first, that
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 10: is a problem with God, and that marriage is going
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 10: to have so many problems and it's not fell on
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 10: a strong foundation. You should never put your children before
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 10: your spouse.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: Should not happen because I have had marriage where I'm
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 7: married now and he has kids and I have kids,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 7: and then we have kids together. But for the first
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 7: few years of our marriage, we did not cooperate well
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 7: on this front because it wasn't actually me because most
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 7: women do this to men instead, where they're like, my
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 7: children are first, no matter what, blah blah blah, and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm not like that. But he was like that.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: And I finally said, listen to me. You are hurting
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: our marriage because you're idolizing your child, and you're idolizing
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 7: him in such a negative way that he's never going
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 7: to become a man. You're not teaching him how to
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 7: be a head of a household or anything. You're just
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 7: teaching him he can have his way no matter And
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 7: so long story short, it went on for quite some time,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: and it, Thank Heavens, I don't know what happened exactly,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: but my brother passed away. There was a whole bunch
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 7: of really bad things, and I think at that point
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: where he stepped up a little harder my end, he
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 7: did put his hand down with that boy because he
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 7: was getting in all kinds of trouble. And now the
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 7: son is a dad, just barely. I just became a
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 7: grandma again. And he sent his dad the most beautiful
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: text thanking him for that later. So it does help
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: in the scheme of things at a later point, like
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: maybe not in the moment because they want what they want,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 7: but it doesn't it helped our marriage, you know.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: I think, sorry, let's just go quick say. We see
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: that in modern day society, how many young single mothers
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: are on dating apps looking for a relationship, but in
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: their bio it says, my son is my king, and
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: I do everything for my child. It's great to have
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: your child's best interest at hand, but if you're actively
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: looking for a relationship, looking for a new father for
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: your son or your daughter, you have to have that
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: balancing actor. You can't say I'm in it for my
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: son and he's the king. Where are you're putting your
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: priorities in that relationship? Destroyed relationship already?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 7: You know that that is called an enmeshed relationship, and
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: that is actually happening to tons of boys and mostly
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: boys in our society nowadays Mama's boys, but actually the
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 7: mother is. And this is from a clinical therapist psychiatrist.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: They said they are making them non sexual husbands, non
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: sexual husbandry to the child who therefore feels inadequate because
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 7: he is because he's like thirteen, and he doesn't know
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: how to be the man of the house because he's
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 7: certainly is never he shouldn't be in that position, honestly,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: And now you've made them that, and you've made them
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: an idol. And let me tell you, I made my
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 7: daughter an idol and God God didn't, but God allowed
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 7: that to be taken from me. And I promise you,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: and she's alive and everything. It just isn't. I'm estranged,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 7: not by my choice, but it is something that you
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 7: never want to face it through that way to understand
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 7: the circle, right like, because now I get it, but
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 7: I mean, you pray for restoration. But it gave her
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 7: so much power over me, over our family, over everything,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: not because she didn't have control like my steps and did.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 7: We messed up on the two oldest. It's like pancakes.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: The first one's never turned out, but like the next one,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 7: you were good. No, we love them to death and
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 7: later they grow. But like with my daughter, I just
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 7: look back and say, oh my gosh, I allowed this.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 7: It wasn't so much that she ruled the roofs like
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: he did, but like what happened was he got really
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 7: into drugs and harmed himself. She got really into herself
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 7: and is harming herself by being so selfish and harming
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: everyone around her. Like she literally posted the other day
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 7: that song I Will buy You a New Life and
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 7: thought that was a good thing because the dude was
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: buying her a garden. And I just almost threw up
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 7: in my mouth because I was like, that's so disgusting,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: that's so yucky to me, Like that's great that he
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 7: bought you a garden, but buying you a new life,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 7: like why you are still you? Like you, you're a beautiful,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: beautiful person. You know who you were. You should never
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: change your core humanity for anything like anyone except Christ period.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 10: Right, you know, and that that whole relationship of you know,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 10: like the parent idolizing their child, like like Drew was
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 10: talking about, where you're looking for a partner for a
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 10: lifelong relationship, but you're telling everybody you're always going to
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 10: come last. My kid's always going to be first. And
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 10: Heidi and I have a mutual friend in common that
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 10: this is going on in their household and the child
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 10: who is ten is ruling the household and controlling the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 10: narrative and controlling the parents' behavior and controlling you know,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 10: what kind of mood is in the household because it
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 10: has been allowed to go on and continue, and that
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 10: the child's become in charge.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 7: And it's a it's a bad position to put them
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 7: in because they do not know what to do in charge,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 7: and then they end up on drugs, pregnant, sexual promisecuting,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 7: I'm crazy, I mean right, yeah, exactly, yep, yep, Yeah,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 7: it's not good. Where're supposed to be an inverted pyramid
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 7: mothers fathers are supposed to be father for a reason
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 7: and that.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but Heidi, hew, do you think about it though?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: Like most of my friends that are my age, they
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 8: don't even know for sure who their baby daddy is right.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 8: It was like, well, it could be it could be
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 8: Listen this I will not mention names because it would
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: be humiliating, but she was like, it could be this person,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 8: this person, or this person. I told this person it
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 8: was his though, because he has a government job and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 8: the child support is really good. They've never he never
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 8: doubted it enough to get a paternity test. But she goes,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 8: it could be one of these three. They all look
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 8: kind of similar, but this one I know has a
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 8: really good job, and so she's been saying it's his
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 8: because she knew she was gonna get child support. This
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 8: is the problem though. It's like people have hot draws
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 8: and they just want to drop them as fast as
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 8: they can with as many dudes as they can, and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: then they get pregnant and it's like, first off, getting
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: pregnant is a miracle and it's not the baby's fault,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 8: and a lot of people wish that they could be
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 8: in that situation to have a baby. But it's then like, okay, now,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 8: because you're an idiot, that kid's gonna grow up. If
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: it's a boy, they're going to grow up and not
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 8: know how to be a husband and not know how
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 8: to love, rite and do all the things that a
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 8: husband should do because they don't they know who their
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 8: dad was, right.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: Or maybe they're not even involved in their life because
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 7: we go through this with our daughter that's gay, and
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 7: we always say listen, I don't care that you're gay,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 7: But now you're talking about bringing babies into this and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 7: here's our thing on it is like her dad was
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 7: so important to her growing up, like they were very close,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 7: and I say, what about the dad, Like, well, I'm
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: going to be there. I'm like, you're not a dad.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: I don't care how masculine you want to dress. You're
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: still a girl. And even if you want to change
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 7: everything and cut it all off, you'll still be a
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 7: girl because you're a girl and you have open Yeah, it's.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 8: Like you can't can't can teach somebody how to pee
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 8: with a penis like there are certain things you're never
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 8: gonna understand.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: Here's my other thing about that too, is like let's
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 8: say you don't care who your baby daddy is and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 8: you're like, I don't need a man. Because that's a
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: new mentality that a lot of women have nowadays, is
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 8: I don't need a man. I can be my own man,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 8: and so they're raising a daughter in this type of mindset,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 8: and then she gets older, she's looking for a potential relationship,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 8: somebody to be with, and she's like, well, I don't
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 8: actually need you, but I want to have sex with you,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 8: and you can split bills with me, and when the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: picklejar is screwed on, you can open it. But I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: don't actually need you. I'm my own man or whatever.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 8: And it's just like a weird cycle now where it's
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 8: like I don't even need a husband, I don't even
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 8: need a relationship, and if I do, I can get
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 8: on tender and I can find somebody real quick I
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 8: can go have sex with them. And like, yeah, it's
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: kind of like this, Like John was saying, like I
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: know I'm dussed, but I would like to have a
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 8: loving relationship with someone, get married, have kids, love God,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 8: go to church, Like those are things that I I too.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, divorcees acting like dads are not important, Like oh,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: it's I mean. I had a absentee dad in my
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 7: kids's life and begged him. I begged him. I was like, oh,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 7: buy him a cell phone so you don't have to
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: hear my dumb voice like anything just be in their life.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 7: Be in their life. He wouldn't do it because he
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 7: just cared about drugs at that point. But here's the thing.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: I still tried because I knew how important it was.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 7: And there's women out there saying like, well you don't matter.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 7: What is that teaching people like everyone matters in their
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 7: own way, Like, come on, it matters. You know, you
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 7: can take away a lot of things, but these things
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 7: do matter. Yes, you can create a baby with a
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 7: sperm donor at the clinic, but I promise you that
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 7: kid's gonna have issues unless it's got some dad there,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 7: Like if it's in a I mean, if there's a
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 7: dad there, like, that's fine. But it's just not it's
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 7: not how it's supposed to be.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: Well, correct me if I'm wrong. And I don't even
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 8: know if this is biblical. But I've always held in
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 8: my mind that I love my husband so much that
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 8: I want to have a little him running around like
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 8: I love him so much and I know he would
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 8: be such a good dad that I would even though
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 8: he's crazy and sometimes I want to wring his neck,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 8: I would want to make a little version of him
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 8: everywhere to run around my house. You know, and I've
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: always thought that it's like having children with someone that
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 8: you barely even know if that it was them who
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: followed it, or you're not in love with him, or
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: there's no type of spirituality between the two, like you
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 8: don't feel connected in any way, And I don't know.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 8: I think it's just backwards. I think you should just
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 8: love that other person so much, like you always meet
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 8: somebody that I never wanted to have kids until I
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 8: met my wife, or I never wanted to have kids
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 8: until I met my husband, and I'm kind of one
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 8: of those people. It wasn't like on the forefront of
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 8: my mind, but now it's all I can think about
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: because I love him so much and I just feel
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 8: like that would be very fulfilling for us.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: But I mean, is that the purpose of children? I
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: think the purpose of children is the ultimate expression of love.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: It is the greatest gift that God has given to mankind.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: He loves us, and through that love and I love
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: for each other, way can bring life into the world.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: We aren't God's like God created life of man, but
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: it's still an expression of our love. We're able to
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: create a little human being, which is a pace of
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: both of us, and it's still connected to God. It's
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: the ultimate expression of love.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 8: And it's also like I can imagine having the one
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 8: child and like you guys were saying, like idolizing it
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 8: because it's like, oh my God, I find have my baby.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 8: But think of this sacrifice that God gave for us.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 8: Jesus is that sacrifice and he loved Jesus so much
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 8: and he was willing to sacrifice him for us because
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 8: he loved us that much. So it's just, you know,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 8: the whole story is so beautiful and it applies to
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 8: everyone's lives because anyone who has kids or wants kids
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 8: knows how much they would love their child and like
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 8: to imagine sacrificing them that you couldn't even fathom that.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: So but he paid that price for us, and then
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 8: you have people. Well I just don't understand all of it.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 8: And it's like I'm a human being, so I make
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 8: mistakes and da da da da da. All these rules. Hello,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: you're whether you believe in Christ or not, you should
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: still live by some type of moral compass. I just
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 8: have never understood all these rules, all these I was
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 8: just telling Heidi the other day, like what don't stab
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 8: a guy, don't lie to someone's face, don't. I mean, like,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 8: what are the rules?
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: Let me just don't stab a guy.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 7: And those of us that are parents in this day
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 7: and age, I will say that there is a growing,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: you know, dramatic movement of untethering yourself from parents, and
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 7: that parents all did everything wrong and so now we're
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 7: going to move on with our best life. And you know,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 7: you guys did it all wrong. We don't need you
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 7: people anymore. We're gonna go do this better, far better
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 7: than you could ever dream of. And I'm sorry that
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 7: is wild because we also who said to be born? Yeah?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's total.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 10: Does that remind you of the council, right? And it's like,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 10: we can do this better, we know more than you do.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 10: And and kids, we'll do the exact same thing they
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 10: certainly do.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 8: John, you've been quiet for too long. I need to
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 8: hear something from you. John.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, haven't scared. No, no, no, no no.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 9: The issue of the church is a good topic because
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 9: this whole idea of sex addiction and the church is
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 9: a taboo topic. Like if you testify God delivered me
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 9: from alcohol, and you know everybody will be like, praise
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 9: the Lord, but if you come up to the front
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 9: and say I was delivered from sex addiction, and then
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 9: after a while you're talking to Joe and Sally and
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 9: they got a little thirteen year old daughter, They're like
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 9: pushing her behind you. You know, I've seen churches try
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 9: to to, you know, address this, but it's it's just
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 9: so much shame associated to our sexuality that people that
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 9: do struggle with this, which is most men, have to
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 9: go outside the church and try to find help because
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 9: it's a lot of complex childhood trauma drives this because
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 9: you know, acting out is not the problem, it's the solution.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 9: Your problem is you're not a nice person. You have
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 9: a resentment tapes you run in your head all day,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 9: and you have self hatred and you have all of
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 9: this stuff. That's the seething cauldron of unresolved emotions just
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 9: burning in your belly all the time. And this you
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 9: gotta medicate it. So the only way out is you know,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 9: a pearsal development path, fire of God, suttying the word.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 9: But those those topics are so taboo, like people in
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 9: the church will just tell you need to read the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 9: word more, and they don't realize that the word bounces off.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: Of complex childhood trauma.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 9: You've got to get into the mix of And it's
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 9: almost like losing an arm. If you lose an arm,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 9: you can get an appendage, but you still have lost
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 9: an You basically have to learn to live with it
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 9: and you can slowly rise above it and live. But
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 9: the church is pretty unequipped. It's like alcoholism. The alcoholics
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 9: came to the church and the church looked down their
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 9: nose at them, and then they went off and started
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 9: aa because the church was ill equipped. And this is
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 9: another one that they're totally ill equipped for. And I
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 9: don't know what the answers are because it's an epidemic
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 9: of a issue.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: John, can I add something to that and get your
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: thoughts on this. The church is also in a lot
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: of ways, the physical institution of church, I would say,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: has an historical precedence of making this type of stuff worse.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: And what I mean by that is that church leaders,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: leaders of faith at one point in history could have families,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: they could have rich fulfilling relationships, loved ones children. At
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: the point where they changed that and made it a
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: scene or something you can't do. You have to give
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: yourself up to God.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: For life.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: That opened the doorway for a lot of sexual predators
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: not only to be attracted to the eye idea of power,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: but into an institution where they know they can't have
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: sex on the outside, but their base line evil predatory
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: desires still exist in which they influence that power over victims.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: Within the church.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 9: Are you talking about the Catholics taking vowels of celibacy?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: What do you mean when you said one aspect?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, one aspect of that and how we see say
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: predators within the realms of larger institutions of church and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: not just church in general. You could say it can
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: be applied to multiple aspects of society and ministry. Boy
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: Scout leaders, people which are in a positions of power
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: but within the church of self mental have taken a
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: vow of celibacy but still have the baseline desires. It
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: almost seems to attract a person with a very very
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: broken moment.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, please do example bt K Killer cub Scout leaders
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 8: about them last night?
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: Sorry?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and he was like the deacon of his church
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 8: slicing dice in people like literally BTK cup Scouting. Yes,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 8: go ahead, John, Sorry.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 9: That dude was cold as iceman. He talked about his
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 9: his programs, that's what he called them. I had a
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 9: program I was running. I was so chilling listen to
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 9: the guy when he was busted and he was talking
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 9: to court. But I don't know the world's The world
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 9: is a mess. People with sexual addiction are everywhere. It
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 9: doesn't really matter what the institution is, they're gonna they're
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 9: gonna be there everywhere. If you go to these websites
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 9: that show you where the convicted sex offenders artists right
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 9: down the street, they're all around you.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, America looks like it's got mass.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 10: Well, I want to I want to add to what
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 10: John was saying about people, you know that can't really
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 10: give their testimony in front of church leaders, because the
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 10: church is full of very judgmental people. As a whole,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 10: they should be accepting of those people, not automatically instinctually
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 10: hiding their thirteen year old child behind somebody when you
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 10: hear somebody's a sex addict. Because God put that drive
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 10: and desire in us in the first place, it's a
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 10: natural thing to have a sex drive. He put it
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 10: there for a reason. But I think a lot of
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 10: people are very turned off by the church in general, right,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 10: churchiosity business of church in general, because they don't know
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 10: how to deal with addiction. They don't know how to
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 10: deal with abuse or traumas or any of that kind
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 10: of stuff, and so their their idea, like John said,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 10: is just okay, read read God reads God's word. That's
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 10: not going to help somebody that's struggling. And the last
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 10: thing that somebody needs when they're trying to be vulnerable
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 10: and tell you that they have an issue with sex
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 10: addiction or drug addiction or whatever the case may be,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 10: that's the last thing they need is somebody to be
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 10: judgmental of them for being vulnerable enough to say something.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: Reid hata doesn't cut It doesn't just go back and
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: read a hata.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: No, Well, I think that's the problem is.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: I think we've really changed church as opposed to discipleship.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: It's become corporation. It's just, oh, you already had the manual,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: so why should just read the manual again? It's like
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: I need help. Discipleship is getting down and washing my feet.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: Discipleship is saying I'll come to your house. Is because
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: you were looking for me, I'm gonna come to you.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: That's what it is. Is it is coming halfway to
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: meet somebody. That's even what marriage is fifty to fifty
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: one hundred one hundred, because you give it in two
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: hundred percent, you can't fail. And this has t happened
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: with Heidi was saying. I was laughing because when an
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: in John, when you're talking about father, like set apart,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: she said that phrase, and I merely triggered what I
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: was doing with my research. When we have Saint Peter,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: you break that down. They're getting that from the Latin
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: sky god of the underworld. It's another equivalent of sirnonas
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: so cern dis petar. This set apart, that's what that
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: equates to. Patar means father. It's a set apart father.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: And that's now what you're calling your Catholic father, the Pope.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: And it makes me laugh because it's like, No, the
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: whole beauty of what Christ did is now my father
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: can come in and dwell you with the Holy Spirit,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: Whereas now in Catholicism you're saying, no, he's over there,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: you have to send him money, you get all these
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: you know, fans, and it's no, it's so much more
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: personal and intimate in getting to know who the father is,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: And I think again, that's why I tap into the
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: beauty of the ripping the veil that was saying the
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: priests would wear white rope just like a brist like
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: a bride.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: He would go in there once or once or twice
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: a year. And what did that mean?
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: Says you guys no longer need someone to intercede for you,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: because now I can dwell you.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: That's a gift.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: And the thing is, I think that's with the bridesmaids
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: is five understood. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: So they have their lamps, they got their oil.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: What is oil?
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: The ones that fell asleep, that's holy spirit discernment. And
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: I think that's even a reason why I get somebody
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: was called oil press and he's like, can you guys
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: not stay awake? They didn't understand the parablek. They didn't
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: understand what we were building up to this exact premise
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: in moment, so they fell asleep because they didn't understand
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: what the oil is. And I think that's honestly, what
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: a lot of people don't get is like there's a
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: lot of bridesmaids going through the motions, but they've not
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: and discipling anybody with what they have. And this goes
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: back to Hoseia. My people perish for a lack of knowledge,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: and because you have rejected knowledge, I will reject you
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: from being my priest, and I will forget your children.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: That's terrifying, folks. He doesn't say that phrase depart from me.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: I never knew you.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: He says that to Christians. Why because we weren't discipling,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: we were being corporate and very well my whole backround church,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: I was open, I was vulnerable, and I'm over here
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: like I'm dealing with trauma as a kid. I'm close
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: to almost doing myself in and what am I getting? Oh,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry you went through that. That sounds really rough.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: Just read your bible. More so, it was a good thing.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: I read the book Pagueing Christianity by Frank Viola because
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: that helped me get out of the mindset of what
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: are we getting wrong in the church because I want
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: to do it right?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 8: Brandon, that gave me some chills. I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 8: I don't hear people talking about that very often, because
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 8: it's very true. He says, I'm the father to the fatherless,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 8: which is becoming such yeah, such an epidemic nowadays too,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: is like, you know, my dad was not a great
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 8: dad and he wasn't really super in my life or anything.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 8: Well he was, but I wish he wasn't because he
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 8: was horrible. But my sister used to tell that to me,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 8: and it was so comforting. She would say, Julie, he's
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 8: the father to the fatherless, and I was like, you're right.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 8: You know, there's such peace in that. And people search
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 8: so long and so hard for healing and peace and
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 8: they think they're going to get it from all these
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 8: things of the world and they you know, they put
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 8: crystals all over and stage their old house, and they
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 8: still don't have healing and peace. And that's comes from Jesus,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 8: like it comes from the Prince of Peace. So I mean,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 8: I just don't get it. People are just so hungry
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 8: for peace and so hungry for healing, and they hate
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 8: the thought of it. Couldn't it couldn't not just be
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 8: as simple as being a Christian. It could not be
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 8: that simple. They want it to be very esoteric, and
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 8: they want it to be very confusing, and they want
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 8: it to be very complex, like okay, yeah, that must
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 8: be it, because it makes me want to have diarrhea
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 8: every time I think about it, Like, no, it shouldn't
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 8: make you sick to your stomach. Just be easy.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: And they want all the answers at the same time.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: They don't want any kind of ambiguity or in any
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: faith or trust in something else. They have to know
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: the ins and outs of it. They have to dissect it,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: put it back together, to understand it so they can
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: so they can actually follow it. Does anyone else have
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: anything to weigh in on before we move on to
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: the last topic. Okay, let's move on to pornography, the
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: subversion of man's animalistic based desires and more. Pornography can
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  Speaker 5: be likened to the bite of a vicious serpent. It
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 5: is deadly venom that enters through the soul, Although this
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: poison is not deadly in one dose, the serpent is relentless.
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  Speaker 5: Through repeated, repeated, and progressive attacks, the serpent's victims become
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: increasingly unable to resist. Remember, Satan is a patient predator.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't present his corruptive view of reality all at once,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: but rather step by step, lie by lie, as he
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: sees the target ready to accept the next dose. And
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: this is what we kind of touched on earlier when
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: we talk about sex addiction, the addiction of pornography has
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: that incrementalism. It starts off very normal, very vanilla. Far
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 5: often more than not, you see straight men air quotes
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 5: start off with regular pornography, and they'll transition into transgender
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: porn and into all kinds of kind of really sick,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: twisted stuff. But it's that gateway incrementalism of this this
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: ultimate weapon that's been put onto humanity that is pornography.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 8: And sometimes it's Yeah, they don't want to be with
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 8: an actual woman because they can't. Like that doesn't do
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 8: it for him anymore. They would rather be alone and
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 8: watch their real like disgusting whatever it is, like two
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 8: girls one cup will do it for him, but like
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 8: just being with a normal girl who you know, it
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 8: just wants missionary, like that's not going to do it
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 8: for him anymore. Like that, that's when you know you
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 8: have a serious problem. I think that the accessibility of
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 8: it is also the problem, because it's on your phone
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 8: for free. They say there's no such thing as a
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 8: free lunch. They made it free because everyone knows their site,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 8: they have their preferred site, and they go on to it.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 8: They know okay, this category this is I mean, it's
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 8: so accessible. They don't even check your age when you
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 8: you just type it in book click.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I wouldn't say it's free, you're paying for it
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: with something else, right. I almost a lock in it
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 5: to it. It's like a god complex because these men
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: they don't have to all women don't have to try,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: they don't have to go out and talk to people,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: they don't have to build relationships. They can put in
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: all their presets. I want a blonde with blue eyes.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 5: I wanted to have a big donk donk. But alway,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: some things that they like, they find appealing, they can
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: just type in and they can find thousands upon thousands
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: of hours to say, shape their lust. There's no actual
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: work in building a genuine relationship. So in that way,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: they're almost playing the pseudo god and finding and getting
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: exactly what they want at their fingertips.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's I think people have sexuality too. Sorry
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 8: go ahead, Heidi, Oh.
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  Speaker 7: No, I just I had this talk with my son
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 7: because it's distorting. I mean, you have to do it nowadays.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 7: My son's sixteen. But we had this talk a long
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 7: time ago, probably about twelve, because I knew it was
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 7: going to come up regardless of what I tried to do,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 7: Like it was, he has a phone, and so I
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 7: just told him, I want you to know something. No
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 7: female and I've seen more females downstairs than most people
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 7: would ever care to think about, because I did labor
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 7: and delivery for years and er for years and all
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 7: these things. So I said, listen, I've seen porn and
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 7: I've seen real life, and most women don't look like that.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 7: Most women do not have the same color of dye
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 7: downstairs as what is being dyed onto their parts, because
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 7: that is not natural and or realistic. Most women do
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 7: not not have stretch marks. Most women and men, most
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 7: men do not have etched abs that are all perfect,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 7: like it is crazy bananas, like this is not real.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 7: And so I told my son, if you inundate yourself
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 7: with this, not only does it take away reality and
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 7: it makes you outside yourself. If you do have that,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 7: you know, intimate relationship with someone, someday you might be
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 7: thinking about that instead. But also it takes away from like, oh,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 7: I've never seen a girl naked, and I actually like
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 7: this girl and we actually ended up together. And like
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 7: I saw booth for the first time, and it was
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 7: a real one, not some crazy that I saw on
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 7: the internet with a cherry colored nipple, Like that's crazy.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 7: And so I just like what I told him, the truth.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 7: I said, this is just not the way it is, Like,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, and you like Latina girls, So we gotta
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 7: have a talk because this is the real, real life
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 7: thing here. And he's like, you know what, Mom, I'm
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 7: not and my son. I got really blessed with a
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 7: good son. And he's like, yeah, no, I know. I
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 7: have a bunch of sisters and you're my mom, Like
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 7: I get it, Like that's not real, And I'm like,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 7: I just don't want you to think someday that that's
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 7: like how your wife is gonna be. And even if
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 7: she is, say she's perfect in every way. Some days
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 7: she's gonna have a baby, some days she's gonna age,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 7: some days she's gonna have something go wrong. You know,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 7: you can't. It's such a fault. It makes us easy
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 7: to say, well, she's not good enough anymore because she
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 7: has two stretch marks, so I'm gonna find me another one.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 7: But on that flip side of that, for the men,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 7: it also is like, oh, I can't really compete with
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 7: with this whole situation that women want. They want the
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 7: portfolio and the perfect everything, and I gotta have etched
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 7: abs and biceps like crazy, and I just don't know
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 7: if I want that kind of pressure. So I'm just
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 7: gonna stick with this phone like because I get it.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 7: It's like anxiety causing too, you know, it's I see
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 7: both sides of the coin.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like I said, you supposed to you're
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: supposed to fall in love with someone, and you're supposed
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: to love them so much, like I was saying, like
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: if they had a baby, you would still love that
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: person so much that if their physical appearance changed, you'd
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: still just be just as much in love with that person.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 8: But that's not what people are looking for. People are
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 8: looking for the physical first, which there does have to
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 8: be some aspect of physical attraction when you first meet someone,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 8: but then the rest comes. You know, first you're physically
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 8: attracted and then YadA, YadA, YadA. But like for kids,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 8: it's like you were saying, Heidi, it's so distorted and
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 8: it's like some weird this like that's supposed to be
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 8: like some kind of a fantasy, and now they're making it.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 8: They're trying to make it into like a reality where
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 8: you should look like this and want all those things
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 8: that the person in the video is doing. You know,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 8: you should want it like that, like I don't want it.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 8: This is a Christian podcast, but you know what, I'm
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 8: twisting them and they're doing like crazy stuff and like
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 8: women are just I told you, if I don't do that,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 8: he won't like it because you know he saw it
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 8: in all these videos. So therefore I have to fake
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 8: it and pretend like I like to be upside down
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 8: with like chained up and bound and gagged and all
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 8: this stuff.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 7: It's like, no, I just once you pack, once you
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 7: pack someone's in test science back into.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 8: Their body.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 7: Summer once because their sphincter muscle is blown. And yes,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 7: that does happen, yeah, and you will never forget it.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 7: And I have told my kids, in fact, when they're
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 7: like eleven, I just get out my medical Dictionary thing
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 7: that they give us in school and show them every
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 7: std that's horrific. That's what I do. I don't care,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 7: I have no shame. I show them every jacked up
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 7: disease that you can get and keep forever. Because I'm
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 7: like this can happen.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 8: This is real, literally, off, how about that your part?
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 7: There's a reason, Yeah, there's a reason why we don't
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 7: do some of that.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well here's here's another thing is if you're trying
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 9: to raise a family, let's say let's say you're a
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 9: young couple, you're so host because the influences are so pervasive.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 9: Like if you look at pioneers that went out west,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 9: you lived on the prairie and once a month you
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 9: would go into town to get supplies. Otherwise you wear
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 9: out in this house, right, So you do have all
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 9: of these influences. So there was a period of time
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 9: before my wife asked me to leave because I'm a
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 9: conspiracy theorist. I was trying to find like Mennonite church
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 9: because I looked at my kids starting to beg for
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 9: a phone at that age, and you know, you're opening
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 9: up this portal which you knew what was going to happen,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 9: And I thought, how can you avoid this? Because none
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 9: of the Christian families that I saw were really doing
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 9: very well. Everybody's kids were worldly, they were corrupt, they
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 9: were insatiable. And the only people I saw that was
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 9: maybe going for it with the Mennonites where they or
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 9: the Amish where they just totally went up yours, to
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 9: the to the world, to the voices of the age,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 9: and they.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: Went off and made a counterculture.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 9: And you could say what you want, but I couldn't
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 9: sell it to the wife, so it never happened. But
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 9: I thought that was probably the best, the best path
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 9: to go if you really wanted to bring kids up
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 9: in a in a holy way, because otherwise they don't
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 9: have a chance.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 8: The phone is it's successful, it really is. And all
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 8: these kids. I mean, I have a friend and her
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 8: daughter's like in ninth grade. I was telling Heidi and
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 8: she came home from school one day and was like, Mom,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 8: what's can you describe for me? Like what's anal? And
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 8: like how do I go about? And she's in shiny grade.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 13: No again, it's just so I mean, like I think
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 13: back when I was in ninth grade, like, yeah, I
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 13: was boy crazy.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 8: And like like all teenagers, like your hormones are like crazy.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 8: But I wasn't thinking about it. She's in ninth grade
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 8: thinking about going to the max. The max for what
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 8: this guy who's gonna run back and be like dude,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 8: she totally did it. Like laughing about it, like can
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 8: you can? Her reputation is now trash because she's a
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 8: girl who did anal in ninth grade and he's going
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 8: to tell all his friends about it, and they're going
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 8: to try to get with her because they know she'll
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 8: do it. And this is the problem. And I mean,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 8: it's just once you have a phone, the world is
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 8: your oyster. You can google anything, you can watch anything.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 8: And then I was listening to a pastor on Instagram
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 8: that I follow and he said that he had a
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 8: couple different guys and this is why he took note
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 8: of it. He had a couple different guys who were
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 8: married with kids come to him and say, you know,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 8: I think I'm actually gay and I don't know how
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 8: to come to terms with this because I think I'm
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 8: actually gay. And he asked them about like their life
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 8: and blah blah blah, and they had all been watching
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 8: like lesbian porn and he was like, even though it's
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 8: lesbian porn, you've still invited like a spirit of perversion
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 8: kind of INDI your life. And they're now confused about
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 8: their own sexuality even though they are attracted to women.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 8: And it just kind of got me thinking I'm not
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 8: saying every guy who watches lesbian important things they're gay.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 8: I'm just saying it got me to thinking that he
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 8: took it in that way, like you've invited a spirit
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 8: of sexual perversion into your life and now you're having
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 8: some weird thoughts. And it's as easy as that. It's
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 8: a it's the The phone is like a scrying mirror
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 8: that we all have in our pocket and we carry
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 8: it around with us every day, and like they watch
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 8: you through it and they know your habits, and it's
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 8: it's really the phone is like the gateway to hell.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 9: Really, Julie, try not giving your kids.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: She how did.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: Oh you lost? Julia.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 5: There's a great example of this of what happened during COVID.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: Because people are locked into their houses during lockdown around
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 5: the world, a lot of people had time on these devices.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 5: We saw the largest statistical uptick in men identifying as transgender,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: and far more often than not, they attribute it to
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 5: I was watching a lot of transsexual porn and I
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 5: identified with the women air quotes within the videos and
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: how empowering they were. So I think it's not just
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: something that taps into a sexual desire that some people
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: have I see pornography as this ultimate weapon. I don't
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 5: find it's all too coincidental that the perfect ideal of
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: a man or a woman that are shown in porn.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 5: The chiseled abs are perfect women. They represent pagan gods
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 5: like Aphrodite and Adonis. They are specimens. They are not
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: the average person like Heidie was alluding to earlier. They're
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 5: showing these pseudo pagan gods and goddesses which people end
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 5: up having an infatuation with, and often in cases of
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: drug during co the men want to be the men
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: want to be the hermaphroite gods of the Pagans by
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: watching and subjecting themselves to this kind of propaganda.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 10: Wow, I want to I want to say to your
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 10: parents as well.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 7: And then it starts coming out in that way. So
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 7: again we're going to go back to strong father figure
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 7: in that childhood trauma vacation.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 10: Yep, childhood trauma plays a very very large role in uh,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 10: your gender identity, and we see that all the time
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 10: in like counseling roles and stuff like that, that they
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 10: any kind of trauma that stems from a childhood like
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 10: fractures your psyche and you're so confused and that's where
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 10: all the gender confusion comes in. But I want to
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 10: say too, with with the pornography, not only can you
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 10: find every fetish that you could possibly think of, right
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 10: and every little niche thing to satisfy your appetite, but
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 10: that is also being worked into curriculum at schools. And
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 10: like Julia was talking about with the you know, ninth
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 10: grader that was talking about anal sex and whatever, that's
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 10: part of their stuff. Plus what was it teen People
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 10: teen magazine? The People edition? Was it during the COVID
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 10: thing where they had a thing in there about anal
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 10: sex for kids? School books, textbooks now talk about anal
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 10: sex or pedophilia or whatever, because they're normalizing that behavior
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 10: and working that in deeper and graining it deeper into
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 10: our society.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 9: In the Watch, the moms go into the city council
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 9: meetings and read the books that are in their libraries,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 9: and the city councils are shutting them down because it's
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 9: too graphic, and they're like, hello.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 10: You're giving it's.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 5: In elementary school. That's the seconding part And unbelievable, Janet,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 5: You're you're hitting on something there. That's both Julie and
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 5: I got into yesterday an episode we recorded. It's almost
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 5: as if the pornography kind of sexualization is leading into
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 5: this slippery slope analogy. First it was gay couples, and
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 5: then it became gay marriage, and then it became multiple
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 5: genders and it's transsexualism. It's moving into this transhumanism movement
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 5: in which we're starting to see those those ripple effects
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: come out. Now in Australia, we have a Green Senator,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 5: an elected member of our government who's pro best reality
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 5: and necrophilia, and because of parliamentally privilege, can get up
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 5: there at a parliament session question and answer time and
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 5: put forward his case for why it's a good thing
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 5: on national television, can do it and get away with it.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 5: So it's this incrementalism that's building up to something far
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 5: bigger and far nefarious. In our scope of Christianity, what
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 5: we know, we know the end times are going to
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 5: be so as the times of Noah. We're seeing that
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: in real time. We're on the precipice of that coming
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: into our lifetimes.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 7: Yes, about the angels, what do we know about the angels?
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 7: The angels meeted with everything anything that walked, animals with
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 7: the heartbeat, like men they didn't care. Yeah, that's what
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 7: it means. That's what it's about. That's what it's about.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 10: But you know, we have educators and senators and the
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 10: whole nine yards here in the United States that are
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 10: very pro pedophilia that don't have a problem getting up
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 10: there and saying it's it's normal. You should be attracted
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 10: to children. You you know it.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 6: Love is love.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 10: No, No, it's not, especially if you read the Bible,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 10: if you follow the Bible, he talks about, you know,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 10: not having sex with animals, not having sex with your
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 10: family members, not having sex with your neighbor's wife, you know,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 10: literally everything any even And this is what is so
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 10: rampant in society these days, like all the men that
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 10: we put in dresses and all the women that are
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 10: supposed to dress like men. That's also anti biblical because
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 10: God talks about that in the Bible, that a woman
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 10: is not to wear a man's clothes and vice versa.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 10: But we're normalizing that and making all of these things
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 10: a reality, and we as a society are supposed to
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 10: accept that and go along with it like it's normal
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 10: and it's okay. But when you do, yeah, I agree
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 10: with that's a problem.
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  Speaker 8: I think they almost want us all to have like
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 8: ambiguous genitalia and like be in some kind of a fluids.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 7: And why right, why because the angels were neither male
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 7: nor female.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so I'm thinking I'm thinking, like that's the end
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 8: goal is like you have ambiguous genitalia, you're in kind
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 8: of like a fluid like state, and you could either
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 8: you could even be almost animalistic. You could be like
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 8: a I need to use I told Drew yesterday, I
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 8: need to use a litter box because I think I'm
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 8: like a a hermaphrodite cat. And you could just be that.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 8: You could just be And then you know, people are like, oh,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 8: you know, there's no such thing as marriage anymore. Have
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 8: you met some of the crazy messed up mfs that
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 8: are out there thinking that they're crapping in a litter
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 8: box and they think they're a cat, And you wonder
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 8: why the dating world and like marriage is gone and
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 8: it's like who you get to date.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 7: There's a butt plugtail. They wear a butt plug tail
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 7: and go and out in the world this way, and
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 7: their moms packed their kitty litter in their backpack. It's bananas.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 7: I don't care what they say it's crazy. That's what it's.
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  Speaker 10: Best like to say, I'm really glad. I never had
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 10: a student in one of my classes that ever identified
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 10: as a cat needed a litter box.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 7: That would not have gone, well.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 8: Danny, you wouldn't have cleaned their human sized turn.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 10: No.
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  Speaker 4: No Italian comedian who's like, there's a kid at his
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 4: kids school as identified as a lion because he goes
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: by the name of Rory, I'm.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 7: Not what's his name, Sebastian something, And yeah, that's the guy, Manuscalco.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 7: He's hilarious.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 8: He is hilarious.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 4: To circle back to what what you guys were saying
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: earlier is that even with the phone being as cesspool,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 4: the well it comes from cern again goes back to
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: the Sernona's aspect of things, god of the underworld of
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 4: Cyrus equivalent of Nimrod and sell phone prison.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 6: Sernona's was the god of the underworld or the dead.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: And I'm laughing because then you even get inter net
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 4: inter place for a corpse or tomb net to restrain
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: to hold something. And I'm laughing because you know, we
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 4: talk about followers and stuff like that, But what does
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: Christ say to Peter, you know, I follow me, I'll
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 4: make you fishers of men. You know, web is to
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 4: entrap anybody. Fishers is to pull somebody out from all
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: of that. It's, it's, it's it's a brilliant analogy, even
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 4: though it was like nineteen hundred, two thousand years ago
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 4: and it's still very prevalent in our everyday society. And
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 4: once you were talking about with the fluid gender, that
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: goes back to Nimrod s soun to mouse with the
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 4: baff of and pen sexual herm aphrodite. Hermes is basically
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 4: saying I'm the god, the father of all perfection is here.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 4: And I'm laughing because a lot of people they're not seeing.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 4: If you look up the symbol for mercury, which is
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 4: affiliated with Hermes, it's the transgender symbol.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 7: Shut up.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: And I'm laughing because some, yes, some people have said
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 4: that Nimrod will be the anti Christ figure. So when
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 4: you look up that symbol and I'm over here going no, no,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: I think it's the sun because when you dig into
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: the sun, you're going, this is the parallel. This is
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: where we get the triune aspect of stuff. Is that
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 4: they're lying to us. They're saying, you can be regenerated
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 4: and reborn in that sense, whereas we're over here.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 7: No, you have not done a three hour session with
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 7: Brandon on this.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 8: Okay, okay, have I seen my theory yet? On who
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 8: I think that the Antichrist could be? And nobody get
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 8: mad at me for saying this, but I said, I
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 8: think it would be a transgender person, and I think
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 8: Michelle Obama would be a great candidate. And I always
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 8: said that, I think it would be somebody who is
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 8: like gender fluid like that, Like that's the ultimate sign
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 8: of the the inversion perversion you name. It's like having
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 8: like a transgender person who used to be male is
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 8: now female and runs the country.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 5: Shout out to a big mokn.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 7: That isn't what's big on Mike, Yeah, suit, oh boy,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 7: it is a boy.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 8: But no, I mean we could just be saying like
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 8: crazy conspiracy theories. Julia, she's wack. Oh. But I do
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 8: think that it would be some type of like inversion
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 8: like that, Like it won't be it like everybody imagines,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 8: like the omen like Damien and he's a little boy
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 8: and he grows up and he comes political and he
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 8: takes over the world and he's the Antichrist, But I
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 8: think it would actually be more like something pretty perverse,
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 8: like they've chopped their bits and pieces off, or there's
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 8: something about them that you'd be like, Okay, they come
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 8: to us as like this leader of the new what.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 5: Have you seen? Have you seen the series American Gods? No,
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 5: there's in this scientific sci fi show. Gods end up
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 5: being created by thought alone. And because the modern day
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 5: man values technology, a god of technology erupts and comes
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 5: into the world. It is sexually ambiguous. You can't tell
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 5: what gender it is. It has smooth proportions all over,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 5: but has a huge rocking Adam's apple, And that, in
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: my mind is a perfect example of what the Antichrist
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 5: would be.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 7: So like they kindom kind of the world.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 8: I mean that's and I actually did a whole episode
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 8: on Barbie dolls because there is some really dark history
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 8: with Barbie dolls and especially giving them to children too.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 8: Did you know the first Barbie doll quote unquote was
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 8: like a prostitute and you could flip her dress up
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 8: and she had like little nipples and like little crotchair
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 8: and stuff. And then they made it kind of more
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 8: ambiguous and they sold it to children and man, I'm
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 8: telling you there's some really dark stuff behind the Barbie
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 8: doll too, and it's always targeted towards kids though, right.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 8: And pornography is too, whether we like to admit it
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 8: or not, because it's so easily accessible on everybody's phone.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 8: And the TikTok this and TikTok that, like where the
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 8: skimpiest outfit you possibly can and then do a sexual
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 8: type of dance and post it for the public, and
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 8: all these weird petos get on there and they look
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 8: for twelve year olds doing this TikTok dance and their
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 8: bathing suit, and I mean, it's just so easy.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 7: They're usually sigils, by the way, like the water challenge
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 7: that was like a witchcrafting and all these things. But
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 7: I will say this is that not only that part
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 7: that the kids do it and they look it up,
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 7: but how about we see the insidious side of it
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 7: in the cartoons because the boobs and the cartoons or
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 7: the little mid drift jasmine outfit or whatever is your
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 7: first indoctrination too. Maybe I need to be more sexy
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 7: because she kind of looks good and she has rock
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 7: hard like abs and her boobs are perfect and all
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 7: the things, and then you immediately start to like recognize
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 7: all these things, and they slide in images that are
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 7: completely inappropriate, and it's in trouble for.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 8: It many a times, John, where are you at?
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 9: The precursor to the Barbie doll was not meant for children.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 9: Born in Germany nineteen fifty two, The inspiration for America's
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 9: most famous doll was a saucy, high end call girl
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 9: named Lily.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 7: Her name was.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: Lewis.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 8: John fact checked me live on air.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 7: I told you, well, I was like, what I never
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 7: heard that one?
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: That was pretty incredible.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 6: So that was the thing.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 4: When the when the Barbie movie came out, I'm watching
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 4: lines and some of them are conservative. I've seen conservatiles
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 4: that were in line, and I'm like, you guys are
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: all wearing pink.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 6: I was like, am i Am I at an abortion rally?
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 6: Or is this the Barbie movie? And what do they
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 6: do in the first scene?
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 4: They crash a baby's head against the rock, and I'm like, guys,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 4: if you needed any more proof? And they're all clamoring like, yeah,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 4: this is graast movie, all the nostalgia, and I'm just like,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 4: if you knew where it came from.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 5: Right, that is a breakdown film for us. I sat
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 5: there with my wife in the cinemas watching Bobby, going,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, the yesoteric symbolism and this is unbounded.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 8: I don't know, Drew. I can't. I can't every movie
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 8: Drew it. I can't make myself sit through. There's some
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 8: that I see and I'm just like, I can't do
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 8: it because I'll peek in my mouth and I just can't.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 8: You know, I I played with Barbies and poly pockets
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 8: and like all those things as a little kid. But
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 8: when you're like as a conspiracy theorist, I did the
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 8: Barbie episode and I look back on it and it
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 8: just ruins a lot of stuff from your childhood. And
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 8: you know, the Barbie movie came out and I was like,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 8: I'm not worshiping Satan today, thank you.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 3: They didn't even try to hide it.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 9: The social programming was so obvious in that and it was.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 3: Like all through it too.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 9: It was it was really late on pretty thick.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: I didn't watch it either. I just saw like the reviews.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: Of it's it's obvious for us. It's not because the
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 5: people you still have mud in their eyes and saying
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: this stuff because anything it's that's right. Does anyone else
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 5: have any closing statements for a conversation day before we
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 5: sign off?
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 7: Come on, people, I'm gonna say so like far away,
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 7: I'll throw one to John. John, I'll throw one to John.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 7: They no longer have mud in their eyes. But that
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 7: was directly spit in their eye, not made by a
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 7: paste anymore, right, John.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah, right, right, she's talking about a mandelaffect. And by
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 9: the way, Brandon Brandon uh quoted from memory Joseah four
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 9: to six. My people perish from lack of knowledge. But
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 9: that is a mandelaffect. It's never been that my people
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 9: are destroyed for lack of knowledge, which is destroyed.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 7: You're not wrong, You're not.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 9: Go to Amazon and there's three books for sale I
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 9: think called my people perish from lack of knowledge right
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 9: on the cover of the book, which never exists.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 7: Mandela. Yeah, it's a Mandela.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: How could that be sin.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, destroyed, but that would tap into more like
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 4: deteriorating because of that, as Parish is already.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 6: It's the summation of things. So I like, how yeah, yeah,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 6: you're right.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 7: I can see he has a whole bunch of them
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 7: that you'd be blown away. Judge not lest gen be judged.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 7: Is not there. That is not there.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 8: This is a whole nother episode.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 6: Next time.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: That's my closing comment. Thanks for having me something, Janet.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 10: I was just gonna say. For the people out there
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 10: who are followers of Christ, stand your ground, stick to
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 10: your guns, stick to your faith and your belief in God,
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 10: and don't give in to uh, the the temptation to
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 10: go along to get along. Uh, don't be swayed into
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 10: thinking that you have to accept all of the things
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 10: that they're pushing as society that are that are anti biblical.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 10: So just just lean on God for your faith and
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 10: your belief.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 8: It don't be interesting to get help.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 7: Do not let shame back you into a corner, because
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 7: God is there for you. He doesn't care. He already
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 7: seen it anyway, so don't worry about that. Just go
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 7: to Jesus and ask for forgiveness. Because you know these
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 7: things travel in packs like guilt and shame and anger,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 7: and if you have one, you'll let the rest in
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 7: the door. So you just got to smack that out.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 7: Derek Prince has a lot of great stuff on this,
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 7: so highly recommend.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 5: Do not be deceived by your pride and ego, and
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 5: this whole conversation today kind of brings me back to
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 5: Corinthians eleven one through thirty four. Be imitators of Me
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 5: as I am of Christ. Now I commend you because
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 5: you remember me every in everything and maintain the traditions
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 5: even as I deliver them to you. But I want
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 5: you to understand that the head of every man is Christ,
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 5: and the head of every wife is a husband, and
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 5: the head of and the head of Christ is God.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 5: So keep that in mind. Don't be don't like people
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 5: have said on this this show today so eloquently, don't
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 5: fall for your own pride, your own ego, your own
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 5: misgivings as what it means to be human. Forget that
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 5: this is a much bigger battle. It's spiritual in nature,
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 5: and you need to make sure you're wearing the armor
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 5: of God in all things we do.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: M M.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 5: John, Can I invite you to close the show out
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 5: with a prayer, Friend.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 9: Worse Father, thank you for this great gathering of friends
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 9: and our new family members as we are brothers and sisters,
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 9: and we just thank you that you were glorified tonight
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 9: as we try to seek out truth in the midst
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 9: of a falling society, and we just thank you for
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 9: Drew to bring us together, and we give you all
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 9: the praise in Jesus' name.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: Amen.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 5: Amen, Amen, Thank you everybody, and we'll catch you all
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 5: next time.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 6: A seven nation on me couldn't hold me back.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: They're gonna rip it off, taking that time, not behind
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: my back.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 7: Then I'm talking to myself a night because I can't
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 7: walk again, back and.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: Both through my mind, behind.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 3: A single red.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: And a message coming from my eyes, leaving alone. A
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: wan hear about it. Every single one can started to