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  Speaker 1: The following.
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  Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and
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  Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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  Speaker 3: Cowboys.
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  Speaker 4: This He's Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.
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  Speaker 1: What is up at its time for Cowboys Storyline? Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: December the fourteenth, Happy birthday David Hellman. He's got his
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  Speaker 1: own podcast out there now. David obviously was with us
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  Speaker 1: for what about eight years? Eight nine years. I was
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  Speaker 1: on the break with me for a long long time.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's doing his own thing out in La for Fox.
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  Speaker 1: He's on got his own podcast. They're putting him on
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  Speaker 1: the air. He's doing a great job over there. So
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  Speaker 1: happy birthday to Dave. We'll talk Cowboys and Bills. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what a game this is for the Cowboys, What an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity this is for them to keep this thing rolling.
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  Speaker 1: If it felt like, and I'm guilty of this, felt
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  Speaker 1: like when they were five and three, I remember just
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  Speaker 1: kind of pushing they're gonna be ten and three, ten
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  Speaker 1: and three, you can look at the schedule, boom five
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  Speaker 1: in a row. They're gonna win. Well, here they are,
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  Speaker 1: they are. But I felt like I wasn't the only
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  Speaker 1: one that thought that way. But for some reason, we
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  Speaker 1: just kind of stopped right then, like, oh, let's let's
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  Speaker 1: stop at you know, at Buffalo. Well, here we are.
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  Speaker 1: And not to say the cat can't win this game,
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  Speaker 1: of course, I mean they can there. I think they're
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  Speaker 1: a better team than Buffalo. But I think that's where
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  Speaker 1: he kind of just drew the line and I did
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  Speaker 1: thinking all right, well, you know, we'll see how things
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  Speaker 1: go at this point. Uh, and it's gonna be one
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  Speaker 1: of those games. I think it's gonna be a really
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  Speaker 1: tough game. I think, you know, the Bills are a
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  Speaker 1: very tough team to figure out, like who are the Bills?
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  Speaker 1: You know, when when Brian brought us always says hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and by the way, his birthday was two
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  Speaker 1: days ago, so happy birthday to Brian. But when he
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  Speaker 1: always says, hey, the NFL is a strange lady. Strange lady,
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  Speaker 1: this NFL. She lives in Buffalo, or at least this year,
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  Speaker 1: she's renting a place in Buffalo. Because that's pretty much
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  Speaker 1: what it is is Buffalo is they can be the
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  Speaker 1: best team in the league or and they can play
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  Speaker 1: up there with the best home or away, and then
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  Speaker 1: then they'll lose a game, you know, to Denver, who's
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  Speaker 1: playing pretty well too, but you know they'll lose some
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  Speaker 1: some games, some some head scratchers as well, so you
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  Speaker 1: never know what you're gonna get. But usually you know,
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  Speaker 1: when Dallas comes to town. I'm sure Buffalo, you know,
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  Speaker 1: only happens eight years, they'll be uh, they'll definitely be
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  Speaker 1: ready to go, be fired up for that one. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna do things a little bit different today too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna obviously take the calls, but I
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  Speaker 1: am gonna take a little bit of breaker. As you
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  Speaker 1: see my stack of books. I was talking about it
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  Speaker 1: for a few weeks. Now I'm gonna do it today.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna do a little book review some of my
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  Speaker 1: favorite books, some some of the books that I've I've written,
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  Speaker 1: some that you know from my friends and uh family,
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  Speaker 1: So just some of my my favorite books. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: kind of promote that little bit. Who knows if maybe
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  Speaker 1: it spurs an idea for a Christmas gift? Who knows?
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's start though, luck we always do with
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  Speaker 1: phone lines. You can call eight A eight eight five five, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you can text at eight one seven nine zero three
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  Speaker 1: two nine eight. All right, let's start us off. We
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  Speaker 1: got Joseph. He's in Keller, Texas. Joseph, what's up?
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  Speaker 5: Hey?
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  Speaker 6: Nick?
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  Speaker 7: Second time caller. Probably you may remember I called a
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  Speaker 7: few weeks ago about the Bills game I went to
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  Speaker 7: where Tony had six turnovers and who came back? So I, uh,
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  Speaker 7: I just wanted to call since it's Buffalo week and uh,
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  Speaker 7: you know.
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  Speaker 8: Just are you going a little quick with that?
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  Speaker 7: I am not going this week? I am, I am.
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  Speaker 7: I have plenty of time to talk today because I
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  Speaker 7: am sitting home after I had meniscus clean up yesterday though.
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  Speaker 7: But a couple of quick things I actually forgot to
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  Speaker 7: tell you before that game. I was at the Anchor Bar,
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  Speaker 7: which is famous for inventing the wings.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, and who who.
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  Speaker 7: Rolls in about three hours before game time other than
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  Speaker 7: mister Jerry Jones and sitting there and signing all kinds
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  Speaker 7: of autographs and the wings.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 7: It was hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 7: A couple of quick things from the yesterday is another
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  Speaker 7: eighty A a little bit of tongue in cheek here,
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  Speaker 7: but hopefully CD changes numbers so that way we can
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  Speaker 7: have three Bryants that wore number eighty eight with Antonio
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  Speaker 7: a few years back and then we can have Martavius
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  Speaker 7: next year. Well obviously never happened. Yeah, we could all
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  Speaker 7: break out our jerseys again and they'd be active.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I actually saw I was in the pro shop
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  Speaker 1: the other day and I saw all the eighty eight
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  Speaker 1: CD LAMB jerseys that are out there, and so for
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  Speaker 1: him to change numbers not going to be not going
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  Speaker 1: to be cheap for him. I think he's good with
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  Speaker 1: where he is right now. Sure, and uh yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's cool. Yeah, you're right. Antonio Bryant was one
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  Speaker 1: Jackie Harris tied end from early two thousands, and a
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  Speaker 1: guy named Ron Sellers I think back in the seventies
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  Speaker 1: had had a big touchdown kids to beat the forty
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  Speaker 1: nine ers in the playoffs. He wore eighty eight, but
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  Speaker 1: obviously the big one right now CD, because I mean
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  Speaker 1: he's about to shatter a lot of these records that
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  Speaker 1: I have definitely had.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely Well, two more quick things. I did some a
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  Speaker 7: little bit of research. Not saying anything against Jonathan Hankins.
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  Speaker 7: I think he's great and we need him and all
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  Speaker 7: those things, but I found it interesting. Yes, last week,
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  Speaker 7: you're giving up four point six yards per per per
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  Speaker 7: run for the entire game, but after mob he came
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  Speaker 7: in or after Hankins went out, I should say, only
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  Speaker 7: three point three three yards per game on nine attempts.
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  Speaker 7: So that was that was interesting. Hopefully, hopefully we can
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  Speaker 7: keep that up, especially in the cold weather in Buffalo
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  Speaker 7: this week. And then a question for you. We've won
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  Speaker 7: the white helmets a number of times, it's been a while,
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  Speaker 7: but I don't remember ever wearing them with the with
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  Speaker 7: the outline. Has that ever happened before.
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  Speaker 1: With the outline?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, obviously Sunday we will. You know it had it
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  Speaker 7: had the regular star on it, not just the start
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  Speaker 7: with you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, throwback.
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  Speaker 7: Have you ever want white helmets with the outline before?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm not I've not seen that
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think that was the helmet. So I
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  Speaker 1: think what you know that they and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot about the uniforms. I know you guys
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  Speaker 1: really care about it, but I mean, to be a throwback,
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  Speaker 1: it's got to be kind of a throwback. And then
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  Speaker 1: I think you do have an alternate uniform, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they want to dip into an alternate uniform,
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  Speaker 1: and so that that is not the uniform a throwback,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean the regular star on a white helmet.
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  Speaker 1: It would have to be a throwback.
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  Speaker 8: But we had this past week.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we had it Sunday, right, the.
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  Speaker 1: Regular star on the white hel Okay, you're asking when,
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  Speaker 1: when's the last time they've done that?
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  Speaker 7: I don't, I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: I'm they started last year. Last year.
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  Speaker 7: We did once last year.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, one last year.
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  Speaker 7: All right, Cool, that's that's all I got.
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  Speaker 1: Cool, all right, all right. I never understand the uniform craze,
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  Speaker 1: but uh, I don't know. It's a huge deal. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: fans like love it. They love to know, like they
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  Speaker 1: ain't good matters. They think, like what they wear and
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  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff matters, and maybe it does.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it does. I mean I always always heard all
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  Speaker 1: that blue jeans, you know, blue jersey curse back in
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  Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties. It's like, well, they played on
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  Speaker 1: the road. I mean it was hard to win on
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  Speaker 1: the road. It's just like it is now. I mean
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  Speaker 1: seven and o at home, three and three on the road.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when teams make you wear the blue,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably because it's it's a tough place to play.
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  Speaker 1: It's not really because of the blue. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: who knows. All right, Justin in California is our next caller?
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  Speaker 5: Heh?
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  Speaker 8: Nick?
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  Speaker 5: What's up?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 1: Hey?
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  Speaker 5: How are you good? Man?
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  Speaker 8: I'm good. I gotta say I've been loving this stretch
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  Speaker 8: of winds. I gotta embrace it all. But I started
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  Speaker 8: thinking the other night. I was watching the Dolphins game
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  Speaker 8: and I see Tyreek go out and the whole offense
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  Speaker 8: just turns to trash, and I'm like, okay. I started
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  Speaker 8: thinking about our own team, and I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 8: well is CD or Tyree?
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  Speaker 6: You know?
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  Speaker 8: I want to pick your brain about that. And then
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  Speaker 8: I have one more statement. But if CD was was
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  Speaker 8: to be non existent in our offense, would that basically
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  Speaker 8: crumble our whole offense? And I know we got a
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  Speaker 8: lot of players, a lot of playmakers, we have cooks.
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  Speaker 8: He's actually like the quote unquote Tyreek guy that is
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  Speaker 8: supposed to, like, you know, bring speed to our offense.
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  Speaker 8: But CD seems to be that dominant force and he
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  Speaker 8: seems to be the one that makes everything happen. So
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  Speaker 8: what do you think were to happen if CD wasn't
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  Speaker 8: as dominant as he's been playing with everyone else just
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  Speaker 8: kind of go away.
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  Speaker 1: Hold On, hold on, let me ask you two different things.
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  Speaker 1: You're talking about him not on the field or not
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  Speaker 1: catching passes, because two different things. If Tyreek kill goes,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if a guy leaves the field, it changes things.
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  Speaker 1: If he's just not getting the ball, but he's still
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  Speaker 1: demanding double teams and all that attention, then he's still
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  Speaker 1: doing his job. He's just he's just commanding a double team.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, all right, I'm gonna go over here
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  Speaker 1: and let other you know, other people try to beat you.
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  Speaker 1: Two I mean, two different things. I think they can
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  Speaker 1: win that way, as long as you know CD's out there,
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  Speaker 1: he's established himself. They want to sell out to stop him. Fine,
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  Speaker 1: you can take him away if you want to, but
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  Speaker 1: it's at at what cost. So but if he's not
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  Speaker 1: on the field, yeah, I think I think that that
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  Speaker 1: changes things a little bit. I Mean, now now you're
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  Speaker 1: focusing on Cooks and Gallop and Tolbert and ferguson those
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  Speaker 1: guys to make a lot of plays. I just don't
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  Speaker 1: think he would be the same. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: how you would expect them to. But I mean there's
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  Speaker 1: a big oak tree or any kind of piece of
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  Speaker 1: wood you want to knock on. I think I think
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  Speaker 1: let's let's do that.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I mean yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 8: I mean I just think because the Dolphins have, you know,
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  Speaker 8: basically they have really good talent too, like in other positions,
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  Speaker 8: and it just it just was not showing up at all.
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  Speaker 8: As soon as Tyreek left the field, it was it
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  Speaker 8: was over.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And second second thing is there was a caller yesterday
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  Speaker 8: that said, you know, the look of the Cowboys, you know,
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  Speaker 8: the way they come out on the field, the optics
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  Speaker 8: of it, the way they look. They don't look like
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  Speaker 8: there that they have that dominant focus. I don't know
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  Speaker 8: if you remember the call yesterday. I want to actually
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  Speaker 8: say that this is finally, most of this year, I
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  Speaker 8: want to say after the Chargers game or during the
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  Speaker 8: Chargers game, they have actually had a better look on
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  Speaker 8: their face from afar. They don't have that we're kind
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  Speaker 8: of getting we're kind of from coming from behind, or
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  Speaker 8: it's kind of a close game and we look sorry
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  Speaker 8: type of look on their face. Last year, if you remember,
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  Speaker 8: they just look like they were in a daze. If
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  Speaker 8: they weren't up ahead instantly, they were just on the
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  Speaker 8: sideline kind of looking up at the scoreboard, and I
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  Speaker 8: know it's just optics and we don't really know what's
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  Speaker 8: going on. But this year is different. They are bending
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  Speaker 8: and not breaking, and they are fighting ever since that
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  Speaker 8: Chargers game, for tooth and nail, for every single thing
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  Speaker 8: that they have, and I'm actually loving it. So I
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  Speaker 8: don't know what this guy saw in the past. I
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  Speaker 8: was eight years old when they were winning Super Bowls.
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  Speaker 8: I don't really remember, but I just want to say
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  Speaker 8: that they're looking better than ever, especially just to look
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  Speaker 8: on their face. They don't look sorry, and I'll hang
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  Speaker 8: up and listen.
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  Speaker 1: All right, thank you. Yeah, I didn't understand that either,
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  Speaker 1: Like I, like I said, you know, opinions. Everyone's got
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  Speaker 1: their own opinion on what they see. But can you
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  Speaker 1: imagine if you were like a fan of you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers, and you're like, I don't know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about the record, it's not that great,
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  Speaker 1: but man, we've got the look you look in their
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  Speaker 1: eyes like they are ready to play. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know we've won one game, but we got that look.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like nobody would care. They'd be like, care,
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  Speaker 1: what look you have? On your face. I mean, Eli
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  Speaker 1: Manning's going to the Hall of Fame one day. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he looked lost his whole career, but he wasn't, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean like so, I think the results is kind
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  Speaker 1: of what matters there, and you know that's fine. I
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  Speaker 1: mean maybe maybe I didn't understand this point exactly, but
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  Speaker 1: I think this team has whatever the look is, it's
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  Speaker 1: working when they get on the field, and that's obviously
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  Speaker 1: what matters the most. All right, Bob in Rio Grand Valley,
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  Speaker 1: he is our next scholar.
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  Speaker 5: Bob, Good morning, Nick.
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  Speaker 6: How you doing?
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  Speaker 1: But I'm good? How are you doing?
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  Speaker 5: Doing good?
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  Speaker 3: I'm like a lot of Cowboys fan rat now I'm
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  Speaker 3: a little bit concerned. I think this injury to Jonathan
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  Speaker 3: Hankins that came at a very unfortunate time, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't think the light bulb is stays own all the
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  Speaker 3: time yet for Marzie Smith. So my concern is, and
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  Speaker 3: my question for you is some of the writers have
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  Speaker 3: referred to a guy that's a practice squad, big pillow
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  Speaker 3: by me, Carl Davis, that's right. What do you know
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  Speaker 3: about him? And do you think this is a possibility
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  Speaker 3: that this guy can come in and really help us.
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  Speaker 3: That's my question for you, and I'll take it off
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  Speaker 3: the great question.
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  Speaker 1: Great question, because that's probably gonna happen Carl Davis. This
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  Speaker 1: is why they brought him in. So why this is
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  Speaker 1: kind of why the NFL has has changed the rules
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  Speaker 1: to allow veterans to be on the practice squad for
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  Speaker 1: situations like this, because you get an injury to a
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  Speaker 1: guy like Hankins and you want to fill it with
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  Speaker 1: you know, you need some help, needs some experience. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you could go to get a guy right off the street,
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  Speaker 1: like a Carl Davis, you know, but the rules before
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't allowed to be on the practice squad because
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't eligible. But now you can bring a guy in,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, maybe we need him. And it's been
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, six seven weeks. He's been out there,
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  Speaker 1: he's been practicing, he's in football shape, and he's pretty big.
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  Speaker 1: He's a big dude, but like he it. Now you
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  Speaker 1: can elevate him if you want to, and it's perfect
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  Speaker 1: because you can keep him on the practice squad and
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  Speaker 1: elevate him three times. That's probably going to be about
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  Speaker 1: how many weeks you need before Hankins comes back. So
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  Speaker 1: Carl Davis has played a lot in the league, seven
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  Speaker 1: eight year veteran, really big guy, can you know, eat
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  Speaker 1: up some space. That's kind of what they're looking for.
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  Speaker 1: I think Mazi is still gonna play. Mazie's gonna gonna
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  Speaker 1: be out there for sure, but still really good opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to see what Carl Davis you know, can do. And
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those moves that's why you do it.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: We kind of joke when Stephen Jones says, you know,
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  Speaker 1: player acquisitions three hundred and sixty five days a year, Well,
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  Speaker 1: it is, and this is why, because you don't always
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  Speaker 1: just you know, you don't always just react when things happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's basically it's having a little insurance, have a
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  Speaker 1: little foresight. You know, what if if we why don't
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  Speaker 1: we get this guy and bring him in in case
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  Speaker 1: case we need him, case Hankins goes down, or OsO
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  Speaker 1: goes down, or Neville or somebody. We got a guy
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  Speaker 1: that we can, you know, kind of learn this system.
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  Speaker 1: And here it is. So Carl Davis will probably be
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  Speaker 1: a guy that you'll see at elevated this week, maybe
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  Speaker 1: not to the roster, but probably to the practice from
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  Speaker 1: the practice squad. I can do that three times, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, So good stuff there, all right, Tony in Alexandria, Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Nick, am I on?
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  Speaker 4: You are on?
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  Speaker 1: What's up?
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  Speaker 6: How you doing, sir?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you good?
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  Speaker 2: Hey? So, I've been waiting kind of a couple of
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  Speaker 2: weeks to kind of get into this question and wondering
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  Speaker 2: because we've been playing at home for like the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks. But it centers around road trips. And
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  Speaker 2: first of all, Nick, did you I can't remember if
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  Speaker 2: you said, do you play any varsity sports like in
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: high school or anything?
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Just that curiosity played basketball?
• 15:45
  Speaker 8: Okay, so did I? So?
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: And I played varsity on my UH in my senior year.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: And one of the best things in my opinion, that
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: I like about, you know, being on the varsity squad
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: was not only you know, actually playing in the game
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: and winning, but was actually traveling on road trips. And
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: the way that our school worked is you had the
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: four teams. You had JV boys or JAV girls, JAV boys,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: then varsity girls and varsity boys. Well, the way how
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: it worked is that JV teams would lead like middle
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: middle to early to mid afternoon travel to the away
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: school because their games would start first, and then the
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: varsity teams would leave like literally right after school and
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: take a second bus down to the away school. And
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget how the look on the faces because
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: we all be like a shirt and tie when we
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: walked into the gymnasium and the doors would open, all
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: the posing fans would be looking at us like, oh,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: here comes the varsity team into the you know, into
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: the gym and stuff. And I was wondering as far
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: as it like the road trips and everything, you know,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: because I've again wondered about this, like in your experience
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: since you've been with the Cowboys and through you know,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: various coaches just cares how the road trip experience is.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: You know, you guys normally always leave at the same time.
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: You guys stay at the same hotel.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: You you personally have any free time like when you're
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: you know, when you travel to the way city. And
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: if you can, you know, maybe distinguish between the coaches
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: because I think, like with Garrett, I think they had
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: when they traveled they had him, they had like players
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: wear shirt and tie. Because I always watched the little
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: videos where they're like walking to the plane and stuff
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: versus now it looks like it's a more of a relaxed,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: uh you know, outfit that goes when you guys are
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: going to the plane to travel.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: And so I was just wondering.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: If in your experience, can you touch on that, and
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: maybe if you have a funny story that you can
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: recall regarding your road tip. I know if Brian Brodis
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: always talks about and I believe it was a trip
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: from Buffalo that they came back where the plane was
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: a bumpy ride coming back and he's like, Nope, that's
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: it for me, no more traveling through away game.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: So anyways, h.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I appreciate.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: To listen.
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: Thanks.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's a whole that's a whole show.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I mean just road trips. I mean I mean stories
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: and things like that. Yeah, I've got some stories. I
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: can't tell them all, but yeah, I've got some stories.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll try to answer this kind of quickly.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Every coach kind of does things differently, and the coaches
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: have done things differently. I mean, the same coach has
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: done things differently. I mean Garrett was here what nine years,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I mean he switched it up, and there is no.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I mean with the Cowboys, you can't just say you
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: can't just seeing Montel Jordan all the time and say
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: this is how we do it. It doesn't work that way.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Because you play on Sundays, you play on Thursdays, you
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: play on Monday. One year you played on Wednesday night.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I mean you have to adjust and so to just
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: have one set of rules like this is this is
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: how it's gonna be, it doesn't work like that. Now,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: You're right. McCarthy kind of has a little bit more
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: of a relaxed fit for them, you know, and they
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: have travel suits now, and there's been times when it's
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: been shirt and tie, and you know, the Cowboys. I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: don't know what other teams do, but I mean the
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Cowboys have they try some some media, not not the writers,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: but some of the local media, the TV TV guys,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: the cameraman, some of the radio people. So that there's
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you know, and then there's sponsors as well on on
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the trip. So you know, it's it varies, and it
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: also varies. Sometimes you've you've gone straight you know, the
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: team goes and practices with a walk through at the stadium.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: That's been kind of rare. Usually you just go to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the hotel and and we don't really say where where
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: the cowboys are staying, that it's not a public thing,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: but everyone always knows because when we get there, there's
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of fans there, uh, in the lobby
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So you know, it's I mean,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, should I tell the image story?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Hold off on that one. There's been Oh it's funny,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I'll tell the story. So so my first year with
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the team, so second year maybe second year with in
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: two thousand, walking into New York, tons of fans and
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: and there's there's fans lined up on both sides. And
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: so I'm like twenty four years old. I mean, I'm
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: just the young guy with this Nike gym bag. Is
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: my is my travel bag? You know, it's terrible and
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: uh and Emmett is walking right in front of him,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and Emma's got this really nice, you know, roller bag
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And he turns He's like, let me see
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: your bag. I'm like, let me see what I thought
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: he wanted me to carry his bag. It was like, see,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: he goes, let me see your bag, and so he
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I gave it to him. So he's got one bag
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: with his and then he's got my bag and he
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: walks through all these people and of course I'm not
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: sure what's going on. I don't know if you know
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: what's happening. Come to find out, Emmitt's turned he had
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: his hands full, so everyone's asked for autographs at the moment.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: He was like, no, I can't, I got a hands full.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: And then he kind of laughed, dropped my bag on
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the ground and kind of did this, you know, funny laugh,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and he walked off and he was like I probably
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: wasn't the first person. He's done that too, you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm a young guy, and I'm like, I don't
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: know if that was disrespectful or the coolest thing ever, Like,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't really know what happened, but that
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: was kind of funny. Now, I'll say that Emmett's definitely
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: signed his share of autographs over the years, and there's
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of stories where he does some some really
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: cool things for fans. But in this particular case, we
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: just got off the plane. We were going to the hotel,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and he was like, he was like, nah, I got
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: my hands full. So I thought he might have been
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: playing that more of a joke on me than anything else.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: But that's that's about my story there. We can probably
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: get into road trips later on and maybe a different show.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: All right, Bruce in Houston, what's up?
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: That's pretty cool. You have to gig in it about that. Say, hey,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you taking my bag.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Emma Smith has carried my bags.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: So that's a first.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna give you his bag and
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: tell you this.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I didn't know what was happening.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I really didn't know.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: That's a good story. Thanks for sharing, you know. The guys,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: we're talking about Mozzie Smith a little bit. I'm glad
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: he's getting to play out.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I hope anking is out just a week because he's
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: really played well this year. But I think it's going
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: to be good for Mozzie. I've been watching him, trying
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: to zero just on him in you know, on the
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: replays and retaping it. But it seems to me, and
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I'm no coach, but he's just a little slow off
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: the snap. And it seems like once i'm offensive lineman
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: get their hands on you, you're in trouble. Because in
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Michigan he just he just out muscles everybody. So, but
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I was thinking too about Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Those guys were higher draft picks than Mozzie and they
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: didn't really like the world on fire their first year either,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: did they?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Not?
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: So really, I don't think so. I mean, and Carter
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: supposedly was thought to be the maybe number one pick. Wow,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: So yeah, So I think, I mean, the fans have
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: been on him tough this year because you know, you
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: do expect, or at least I've always thought, you know,
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: your first round draft is going to start.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, what are you drafting him? Right?
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: It is what it is. So I'm looking forward to
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: him and uh uh Gallimore, Galli and this and this
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: guy Davis too coming up. I think they can solidify
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: that for a week or two. But I want my
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: real question to listen to the Talking Cowboys before, and
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: they were talking about m VP with Dak Prescott, and
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: I think he's having one this year. Do you think,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: of course next year he's on the hook for what
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: fifty nine million or something?
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Big number?
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Could you ever see? And I'm not I'm not trying
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: to be negative Nancy here, because I definitely wanted to
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: win the super Bowl if he doesn't, because he's playing
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: great now. But I think we all as Cowboys fans
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: that we want to see this in the playoffs and
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: championship game at least if he if he becomes m VP,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, if Jerry's probably going to resign him even
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: if he doesn't take us to at least a championship game.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Do you agree?
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do too.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I think Jerry's going to resign him. I mean, he's playing,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: he's playing phenomenal right now.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, it seems like and I don't know
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: if it was getting Trey Lance to light a fire
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: round him. You know, when someone's potentially going to take
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: your job, you seem like you play better. And obviously
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: we all know contract year. Yeah, they played lights out.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if this combination of both of
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: that or him just getting finally comfortable with McCarthy's system.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: So I think it's a combination of all that. But
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: can you just talk a little bit and I'll hang
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: him and listen. What kind of contract because he's thirty now,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: so you probably couldn't do a ten year with Dak
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: just so that you could have some voidable years. But
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: it's going to take us six or seven years because
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: I would imagine it's going to be his last contract.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: But maybe talk about that, yeah, because you definitely got
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: to sign CD and Micah for sure, and the other
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: guys will just have to fill in.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: But all right, yeah, again another topic that that could
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: be on another show, like the whole show. I mean,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: what is Dak's contract? Looks like tricky because you know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: he's he's never been one that wants to, you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: have a lot of years, But that's how you do it,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: if you want to, you know, give him the number
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that he's looking for, but without it just killing your cap.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I could see an extension there of five,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: five to six years maybe, but you know, he's I
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: think I think, you know, they don't have to do
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: anything because he is under contract next year and it
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: is for a lot of money. But and that'll that's
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: going to be changed regardless of what happens. But you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: if he has if he has if he keeps this
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: up and maybe wins MVP and and and I think
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I think more success in the playoffs, and you know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: if they can take him to another level, that will
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: probably help him as much as anything. But you know,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: if that happens, you know they're gonna sign. If he
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: goes and wins MVP and goes and wins the super Bowl,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry's like, here's the pin. I mean, here
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you go. I mean, write your own check. Now, he'll
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: never do that, but you know what I'm saying. I mean,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: it'll it'll just be. It'll be through the roof and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: and and no one will really care. You know, if
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: he if he can do that and take this team
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to a level we haven't seen, that would be great.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Anthony and New Jersey. Anthony, Hey, Nick, Great,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: how are you doing?
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: Hey?
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: Very good, first time calling into the show. Love all
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: your work, love all everybody. Would you guys do there?
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It's awesome, Thank you, first time caller, first time Hey.
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: Just a quick question. I just hope that, like the
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: defense just kind of focuses a little bit trying to
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: contain Josh Allen from running around because I know it's
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: a big mobile quarterback. So hoping, you know, they kind
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: of concentrate a little bit more on that this week.
• 26:51
  Speaker 9: That's all I really wanted to say. Thanks man, I
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: appreciate your work.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you all right, that was Anthony in New Jersey.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I think Chris might be on the phone here we go,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: we go Anthony to Jersey if y'all could see. And
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I haven't really seen it because I'm here, but I
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: can tell what we put Chris through on this show,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: put him to work back there, and I appreciate it
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: for sure. Josh Allen running the ball running around one
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: hundred percent, that's gonna be an issue. He's just fourth
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: in the league, I think among quarterbacks and rushing yards
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: with like three seventy five, you know, and some of
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: them are designed, but not really. He really does a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: nice job of looking seeing taking off. So that's gonna
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: be a key man. There's there's no doubt about it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, he that that seems to be the type
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: of running quarterback that really hurts them the most. It's
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it's not it's not the guys that do the design stuff.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: It's the ones that have the ability to win when
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: nothing else is there and then the middle is wide
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: open and go get it and go get the first
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: down and move the chains. That's been the one over
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the years that's really hurt this team. And that's what
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen does very well, so that will be, uh,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that will be interesting to see how how that kind
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: of works out. All Right, we're gonna we're not taking
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: break here. We're gonna keep We're gonna move along, Gonna
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: do a little bit of a book review that I've
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: been talking about. These are some of my favorite books.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: These are books that you know, my friends have have
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: written and some that I've done. So I'm gonna kind
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: of go through a little bit there. I think we're
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: gonna we'll start it off here. I got a really
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: really good friend of mine, uh, Drew Meyers. He's actually
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: spoke to our our team. He's a motivational speaker. I
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: met him in college. He's probably the reason. He is
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the reason, he's the reason why I'm I'm probably where
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I am today because he got me the job, that
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: helped me get this job. So, you know, everybody kind
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: of has a guy like that. Drew Myers is my guy.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: He He wrote this book here. It's called The Taco
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: and Chocolate Diet, and let me tell you, it has
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with diet, nothing to do with tacos.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: It's really uh, I guess you would say self help
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: type book. Basically his his thing is live living and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: what do they say, live a bold, adventurous, intentional life.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: So he does. He does a great job of just
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: kind of saying, hey, do you do it the right way?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: And and that's one thing I love about Drew Man.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: He's done about one hundred things. He's been a football coach,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: he's he's been an editor at a newspaper. He's had
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: about ten jobs, a volunteer fireman. So he has a
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: really really good, good message all the time. So Drew
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Meyers the tacos and chocolate dat so pretty awesome, all right.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Another guy that actually worked here a little bit. His
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: name is Carrie Lofton. He's got a book that probably
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: relates to just about anybody. It's called Money Talks, How
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: to confidently price your work, And he's done some work
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: with us. He's a videographer now he's doing some freelance stuff.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: He's negotiating prices all the time. But it's really more
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: more than just that. It could be how to negotiate
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: your own salary, how to how to get your your
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: your worth properly and then do it in the right way,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: because it's not easy, you guys know, it's not easy
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: to talk to your bosses about getting more money and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: then when they say yes or no, then you got
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: to go back to where I mean, how do you
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: how do you do all that? So this book he's got,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you know, it's not the biggest book in the world,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: but that's actually those are nice money talks how to
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: kind of price your work from carry Lofton. You can
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: get this on Amazon as well also or carrielofton dot com.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Really really good stuff there. All right, this one, this
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: one is from again not this is not sports book
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: at all. This is from my dad. My dad wrote
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: a book. Just a couple of years ago. Tim Eatman
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: wrote a book. It's called Nursing Homes. And one thing
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: that that he does, he calls himself doctor Sunshine. Doctor Sunshine.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: He goes, actually goes to nursing homes and sings with him.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I got a chance to actually visit with him just
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, went into a nursing home.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Pretty interesting experience for sure, singing songs to them. We're
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: talking about ninety five one hundred year old people that
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: don't really know a whole lot what's going on, but
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: they start singing music and the song power of music
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: big time is evident in here, and he kind of
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: shares his experience over the years to kind of get
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: him to this point. So Nursing Homes by Tim Eatman,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you can also get that on Amazon. All right, Cowboys books.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: This one, this one, This is the one that probably
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: sells the most for me. This was my second book
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I ever did, If These Walls Could Talk. It's been
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: like ten years, just a variety of different stories. Obviously
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Romo here on the cover, but lots of things. You've
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: probably heard most of these stories over the years, but
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: this is one that keeps doing pretty well for meet.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I get a nice little check every now and again.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, people still tell buying this. If These
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Walls Could Talk definitely the most successful one I think
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: that I've done. My first one that I did though,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: that kind of opened the door for everything. Art Brows
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Looking Up kind of did his story his first book.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: She got an opinion about him, don't really care. It
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: probably means you haven't met him. A really great guy
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and certainly was the reason why I was able to
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: do some of these books. And his story is fascinating.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe there'll be another book down that will
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: be an interesting another book down the line with him,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: all right, Jack Taylor, who has been on our shows
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: here recently a media mash is this book just came
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: out Coach Prime. He got to spend a whole year
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: with Dion down at Jackson State a couple of years ago.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: So really the ins and outs of a whole season
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: there with Dion Sanders at Jackson State HBCU and just
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: just all the challenges that Dion dealt with there, probably
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: right before he went to Colorado. So this book John
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Jock Taylor can also get this on Amazon Coach Prime.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Really cool a book. I can't wait. Three I haven't
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: read this one, can't wait to read this one. All right.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: This was my third book Friday Saturday Sunday in Texas.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: This was one year of football when almost almost killed myself. Honestly,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: this year I followed a high school team, a college team,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and a pro team obviously the Cowboys for a whole year.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Just talked about the ins and outs of the of
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: you know, just everything and how different things are from
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: these levels. But you might be studying for algebra, might
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: be taking a SAT, or you might be studying for
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the giants. Who knows, but everything is different at these levels,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: but yet they're all kind of the same. At the
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: same time, was watching the TV show Modern Family one night,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: eleven o'clock at night, Modern Family saw this show three
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: different families kind of related but not the same, and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I thought, I'm all right, a book just like that
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Friday Saturday Sunday in Texas. Really loved that. And then
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the last book, the fourth one I've done. It's pretty
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: good Christmas gift right here. Six decades of Cowboys Football,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the sixtieth anniversary, This one I did. I shared this
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: one with Jeff Sullivan, another writer. We kind of split
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: up all kinds of pictures, cool stuff there. Just every year,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: sixty seasons, sixty players. We ranked the sixty players and
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: it was cool right in that with Jeff we did
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit trading, you know, and he's like, I'll
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: take nineteen eighty four, and I'm like, I'll trade you
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the ice bowl for eighty seven. And it was kind
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: of fun. It's fun to do that kind of go
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: down memory lane. That one. That's a big, nice coffee
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: table book, Lots and lots of beautiful photos in there.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Six decades of Dallas Cowboys football with myself and Jeff Sullivan.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: So that's some of my books there, books and some
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: of my favorite books. You can you know, if you
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: got any questions on that, hit me up on Twitter.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: But yeah, all of those I think you can still
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: get on Amazon and some different different ath the websites.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: So all right, good stuff there. All right, let's go
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: back to the phone line. Thanks for letting me do that.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: G in New Jersey is our next caller, Nick so.
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: Man, great stuff today. One of my favorite Cowboy books
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: of all times because I'm kind of like a nineties
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: you know, I became a fan, you know that for
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: that run that we had in the nineties is so
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: my favorite book is Boys Would Be Boys Man by
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: Jeff Perlman, and I read that and it's some really
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: good stuff in there. But real quick, man, I have
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: a story of being a fan and kind of meeting
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: the players based off of what you were saying earlier,
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: your Emmett story, which was tremendous. In twenty seventeen, the
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: Cowboys had a rookie on their team, Louis Neil. So
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: I got a chance to go to the game at
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Medlife Cowboys at the giants, and right before I hit
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: the turnstile, there's a lady there and she goes, would
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: you like to meet the players? And I'm looking at
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: this lady crazy, and I'm like, what are you talking about?
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: And she goes, if you like to meet the players,
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: take this card and go over towards that tenth over
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: there in about half an hour. So me and my
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: buds we waited half an hour and we look at
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: the card and it says family visiting pass. So we said, whatever,
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: let's give it a shot. We go over to the
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: security in front of this tent and sure enough, they
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: let us in and we see the lady sitting down.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: So I approached the lady and I go, are you
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: a relative? And she goes, I'm Louis Neil's mom. So
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: I sat down and I'm like, are the players going
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: to come in here? And sure enough, about five minutes later,
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: all the guys start walking in. Dak Zeke Coach Garrett
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: at the time it was such an amazing experience for
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: somebody that would not have that opportunity. And the following
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: year we kept the cards and we said, let's give
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: it a shot. Next year, we're gonna come back and
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: see if the same cards work. So I got to
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: security that let me in because they thought I worked
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: for the team, but they wouldn't let my friends in
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: because they didn't have they didn't have like the warm
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: up that I had on I asked Taco Charleton, who
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: was there talking to some people. I said, Taco, can
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: you let my friends in? And Taco looks at the
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: security guard and goes, hey, let those three guys in.
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: And we had the same experience the following year. Nick,
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: That's just some of my two stories, you know, getting
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: to meet the players. But real quick, Nick, I have
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: a question for this week. Do you think there's a
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: chance that they elevate defensive tackle Carl Davis for this
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: game because of Hankin's injury?
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, thank you. Not everybody listens to the
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: entire show. They come in late. Yes, we've been talking
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: about Carl Davis. I think it's a great week to
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: put him out there. So cool, cool story too. I
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: can't say I know the player you were referring to,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Louis Neil. Never never heard of him before, but maybe
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: it was preseason or something like that. I can't he
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't his name doesn't ring a Bell, but Taco Charlton
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: is probably the best play he's ever made. For letting
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: g in like that, even though maybe that's not a
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: great play, you know, you mean, honestly cool, Sorry for you,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: but can't just be letting anybody in just you know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: behind the behind the scenes, that's where where issues happened.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: But fortunately nothing happened there. Cool but great that you
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: got a chance to see some of those players. All right,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Pastor James, he's in Midland, Texas. Pastor James, what's up?
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Hey? Nick?
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Has the going today? Brother?
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you doing?
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Doing well? Doing well? I was listening and concerning nursing
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: homes and stuff I was when I was younger. I
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: was a certified nurses aide for over ten years. Yeah,
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: and so I understand, you know, the patients, and yes,
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: the love that it takes, you know, to work in
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: the nursing home. And I understand about the music because
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: I worked on the All Timas Wing and yes, we
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: would use music and we would also used physical therapy,
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: and I did a lot of those things with the residents.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: So I understand that as well.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing how you think some lady who's ninety
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: eight years old and doesn't want to eat and doesn't
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: know her name so much. But you start singing jingle bells.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: She starts tapping her foot, she starts nodding a little bit.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: She's can maybe singing a little bit. It's pretty amazing
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the power of music, especially what you can recall from
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: even your earliest of days. And so I know it's
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: not a cowboys book, it's not a sports book, but
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: it's one that's real passionate to my father and my dad,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Tim Eatman, he's really the reason behind this whole show.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: He told me two or three years ago, he said,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you know what, you should do your own show like
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: some of these other call ins with the fans. That
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: was his idea, and it took a little bit to
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: get there. You know, people don't always listen to their
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: dad right away, but he was right about that. And
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: this is his book called Nursing Homes, and it's also
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: kind of a story of his whole life and how
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: it got to.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: That point, right right, Well, Well tell him we appreciate
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: him coming up with the concept for your show. Yeah.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a he's a he's a He calls himself
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: a storylinebacker. So yeah, because he you know, he supports
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the show's the storyline, you know, you get it. Supporter,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: he's a story linebacker. See if that that catches on. Uh,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: but yeah, he kind of cointed out phrase. That's what
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: he called himself the other day, so I thought that
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: was fun.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: Okay, alright, well yeah, we definitely appreciate that. Okay, And
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: now for my my three favorite rastle if I forgive
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: you those.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, the fact that the fact that you put
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: an a in there and called it wrastling, I mean,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I know these are going to be good. Let's go.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: Okay. First of all, of course, the Stone Colt Steve
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: Austin okay, okay. Second, is uh carry vun eric Yes, yes, yes,
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: that was my boy. I love Iron Clark. I mean
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: any anytime the Cloud came out, I was I was
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: jumping up and down as a kid.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, me too, love the von Erics.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: Yes. And then last year, of course is the Rock.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah you're not getting have gone to some wrestling matches.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I like all these.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Guys absolutely absolutely okay. And then my forgotten cowboy before
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: I get into what I want to talk about, was
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: one as a kid that I remember that was really
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: not talked about him a lot. You know, he wasn't
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: a big time name, but Mike heger Money, I mean
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: he was yes school, he was a hard player.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Scored a touchdown in the Super Bowl. He did yeah
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: against the Steelers, Mike Hegman fifty.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Eight yes, fifty eight yes. And so now my favorite cowboy,
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: one of my favorite cowboys, I get to see him
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: every day, and that is Everson loss. I was number
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: twenty four in a Greater Midland Football League and proper
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: Warner because of him, and he was just always one
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: of my favorite cowboys. And it's good to be able
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: to hear him talk every day. But now, okay, I
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: don't want to take up too much time, but you know,
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Mazi Mazi is coming along, and I you know, I
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: hate that Hankins ended up getting hurt, but I feel
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: like if they just give him an opportunity, you know,
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: let him, let him get his feed up under him
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: and stuff and all that, he'll he'll come along. And
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: I'm really I'm agreeing with the call of from earlier.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: I feel that this team is moving from a for
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: next team into more of a power team and we
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: just need to keep following the mindset of the coach
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: and just get tougher and stronger, and I think we're
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: gonna be okay, all.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Right, all right, I like that. I mean it's yeah,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, and it is. I think you're right.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: It's becoming a tough team. You know. I don't think
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you can live in Green Bay and be a coach
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: there for a team in Green Bay if you're not tough.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: You've got to be mentally tough to play, play outdoors,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: play these tough games like that at a high level.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, he knows what a tough football
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: team looks like. He's dealt with teams that had to
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: go with a lot of different injuries, so he understands
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: depth as well. Talking about Mike McCarthy, So yeah, I
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: definitely believe that that he's developing a tough team and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't help. I mean, it doesn't hurt that you have
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: surgery three or four days before going on, you know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: onto the field. And it's never a doubt. It was
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: never a doubt that Mike McCarthy was going to coach
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: the sidelines, not just coach, but be there on the sidelines.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna let that hinder him, and it didn't
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: affect the team, and they were so locked in about
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: it that they kind of forgot. They kind of forgot
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: that it was anything was different. So, uh, you know,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Don dak is still we talked yesterday in the locker room.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: He's still kind of kicking himself a little bit. They
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: he's upset that they didn't give him a game ball,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: you know, and for for doing that. They were so
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: just you know, just excited about the win, beating the
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Eagles and all that, and you know, he said, hey,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: there's no big deal. I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: be as Everything's going to be normal. And so sometimes
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: when that happens, you kind of forget that it's really
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: not normal. He's saying that, but really wasn't a bait.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: He didn't feel normal, but still was out there. It
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: was great. All right, let's move on. We got Dallas.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: He's in duvall over there in Jacksonville. So Dallas, what's.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Up, hey, Nick?
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: How you doing?
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I'm great? What's up? Man?
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: All Right?
• 44:20
  Speaker 10: All right, I love the show, appreciate that. I'd like
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: to give a shot. I'd like to give a shout
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: out to my newborn baby, granddaughter Grace here in Jacksonville.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Awesome my graduations for you, Nick.
• 44:35
  Speaker 10: Just one question, maybe you're gonna answer it for me.
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: Is there something physically wrong with Marzi?
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 44:40
  Speaker 10: You know fifty eight?
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Is there something I mean physically wrong?
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 44:45
  Speaker 10: I mean because you see the tape, you see him
• 44:48
  Speaker 10: not moving like literally, like the snap is gone, everybody's on,
• 44:51
  Speaker 10: He's still there. I mean literally he was still sitting
• 44:54
  Speaker 10: there or squatting there or whatever.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: No, let me let me share. Let me share the
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: raise that was outside the locker room for four seasons
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: when Bill Parcells was the coach, he had all these
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: motivational sayings. One of them that he would say is
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: knowledge is confidence. Confidence lets you play fast. That was
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: And so it's all about it's a mental He's nothing
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: wrong with him physically. It's about awareness, Where do you
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: need to be? Where do you need to line up?
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Where am I going here? And when you're thinking, you're
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: not playing and reacting as much. When he when he
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: gets it down where he's just reacting and playing, he's
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: going to be faster. There's nothing wrong with him. It's
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: just it's it's a transition. He's got to make I
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: don't think there's anything physically wrong with him. He's just
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: learning how to play football at the highest level. Okay,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: that's my opinion. That's my I don't think anything's wrong
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: with them.
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: Is he is?
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: He?
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Is it disappointing? Yes, yes, you would expect your first
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: round pick. I'm not going to sugarcoat this. He's the
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: first round pick, and sometimes you take first round picks
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: over another guy because he should be able to step
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: right in and play, and that hasn't been the case.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Let's not forget Neville. Gallimore's playing better than he's played before,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: and Osa is playing out of his mind, maybe at
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl level. So it's hard. It's hard to
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: get on the field. But I expected Mazzi to play
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: more than this.
• 46:19
  Speaker 10: Are you coming down to Miami a week.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: That's the plan.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I haven't missed the game since two thousand, so I
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: really hope that I'm still there for that one for Yeah,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I'll be there.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: All right, Okay, all love the show.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Thanks you too, you too. I don't think
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Dallas like my answer there. I think he's disappointed. You
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: can be disappointed and Mazzi Smith, I mean I get it,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: but I mean, I've said it over and over. I
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: just feel like he's going to be you know, I think,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to be fine. But yeah, the
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: transition is a little bit more than you wanted to.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: And I also understand this is the second reference to
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: in this show, but I get it. Defensive lineman from Michigan.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: It's not playing well like you thought. Oh my god,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: he's another Taco Charlton. Well we'll see. I mean, I
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: may maybe he will be, but I doubt it. I
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: doubt I bet he's you know, I bet he's going
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to be better than that. And let's not forget that
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Taco Charlton is probably the worst first round pick they've
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: had in the last twelve years. I mean, they've had
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: really good picks. Most of them make the Pro Bowl,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: most of them are all Pro since two thousand I
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: think it's two thousand and ten, every first round pick
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: other than Mo, Clayborne and Mazie and I'm sorry Taco
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Charlton will now Mazi have haven't made a Pro Bowl.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Now Tyler Smith hasn't made one. That might change here
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. This guy's playing out of
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: his mind at left guard, and I kind of think
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: that's going to be his spot, is left guard. I
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: think he's playing so well there. I just I have
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: a hard time thinking they move them. Maybe they do
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: whenever Tyron moves on whenever. That is Tyron's throwing back
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: the clock as well. And I don't know who's gonna
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: win Comeback Player of the Year, but I think Tyron
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  Speaker 1: Smith's name should be thrown in there. Don't even know
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  Speaker 1: who's who the candidates are. Is usually an injury type guy,
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  Speaker 1: but he's he's been banged up, but man, he's playing
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  Speaker 1: really really well left tackle. All right, great show, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry we didn't take as many calls. It took a
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  Speaker 1: little time here. Wanted to share some of my books,
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  Speaker 1: my favorite books, so appreciate you guys. Let me do
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  Speaker 1: that tomorrow. Be right back at it for another edition.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about Cowboys and Bills.
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  Speaker 1: So for Chris being my Nickiepan, we'll see tomorrow Cowboys
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