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AEW Hot Topics | BlueSky, Babyface Turns & Women's Division · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 1: the Ignition podcast with the AW fan podcast team. This
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  Speaker 1: is Kelson and we've got some hot topics to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just get right into it. I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: bring up one thing. Apparently it looks like AW fans
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  Speaker 1: are leaving Twitter and moving the Blue Sky. We've actually
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  Speaker 1: got the Beast more Toast from Blues Guy here with
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  Speaker 1: us tonight. He's done podcasts before, so we're looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to hearing from him, and we're just gonna get the
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  Speaker 1: show on the road. If you're not on Blue Sky,
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun over there. We've got two point one
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  Speaker 1: k followers already and like since Friday, I'm really looked.
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  Speaker 1: This is something I really wanted to talk about. AW
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  Speaker 1: has a real lack of baby faces right now. We
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  Speaker 1: have what eight championship belts and seven of them are
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  Speaker 1: held by heels private party being the only ones that
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  Speaker 1: are faces. But here's the thing, Okay, so do we
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  Speaker 1: need more faces in AW. Now? We've seen Adam Cole
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  Speaker 1: kind of sort of make a sudden face turned out
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere. Same thing with Chris Statlander and House of
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  Speaker 1: Black have been acting kind of face he lately. Do
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  Speaker 1: you see any of those three getting a title or
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  Speaker 1: not say full gear, but in the next two or
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  Speaker 1: three pay per views, or do you see anybody else
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  Speaker 1: becoming a face that is currently a heel?
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  Speaker 2: Don't really know if you can say Cole is a
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  Speaker 2: sudden change because he was out for so long that
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he's changed from the heel that he
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  Speaker 2: had ended up at the end of last year. But
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  Speaker 2: him coming back as the faces neither here nor there.
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  Speaker 3: They definitely need to make some changing freaking double you
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  Speaker 3: can't get anymore the double. Yeah, well, it was going
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  Speaker 3: for so long it doesn't really matter that he was
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  Speaker 3: the devil because that's been It was kind of they
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  Speaker 3: They kind of had that issue sometimes where they do
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  Speaker 3: that in ae W where they'll have something that's going
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  Speaker 3: on and they will just either let it hang and
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  Speaker 3: not do anything with it, or they'll hold on to
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  Speaker 3: it for so long that everything in that in that
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  Speaker 3: storyline has changed so much that it really doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: anymore that being.
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  Speaker 2: One of them.
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and MJ came back and he went from being
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  Speaker 2: the baby face to a heel within a show. So
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  Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't like he was gonna be the
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  Speaker 2: face anymore. So, you know, bringing Cole back and to
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  Speaker 2: continue that storyline, you had to change into a face
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  Speaker 2: or at least a tweeter.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's let's year what the toast toast man has
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  Speaker 1: to say?
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  Speaker 5: You go ahead too, Yeah, Aw has a problem pivoting
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  Speaker 5: on storylines. I find if somebody goes down with injury,
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  Speaker 5: they can't move to the next person. And it's been
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  Speaker 5: a problem of theirs pretty much since the start.
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  Speaker 1: I said Toast for the longest time that Tony con
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  Speaker 1: is stubborn. If something happens like an injury, he will
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  Speaker 1: wait for the nine months until that person comes back
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  Speaker 1: to carry on with that storyline. Like with Chris Statlander,
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  Speaker 1: which took the title from Jake Cargill. We all knew
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  Speaker 1: that that was gonna happen, but Statlander was injured. Do
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  Speaker 1: you gee that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: I one hundred percent agree with that. This Devil storyline,
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  Speaker 5: Adam Cole got injured, MJF was written off TV for
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  Speaker 5: what three four months? They should have just moved on
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  Speaker 5: from it. They should have never been brought back up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they brought it back up, but they really didn't.
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  Speaker 2: It just was the it's kind of like a refined
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  Speaker 2: They didn't really bring the devil portion of it. I
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  Speaker 2: mean Cole said something about it for a minute, but
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  Speaker 2: it's more of the and and and really it's more
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  Speaker 2: that Adam Cole wants to take out MJF than MGF
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  Speaker 2: wants anything to do with at Cole, because if the
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  Speaker 2: one person in this in this story once should be
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  Speaker 2: wanting to have revenge, it should be MJF. But he's
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  Speaker 2: kind of downplaying it as he really doesn't give a
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  Speaker 2: shit about it, but he's gonna do it because he
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  Speaker 2: has to. At least that's the way it comes across.
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  Speaker 6: Part of the problem though, is with specifically that storyline,
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  Speaker 6: and Jeff is just doing these backstage segments and whatnot.
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  Speaker 6: We're not getting the usual MJF feud where he's in
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  Speaker 6: the ring having romo battles with the person he's in
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  Speaker 6: a storyline with.
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  Speaker 1: But I can't really defendly call.
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  Speaker 6: The house of black babyfaces going back to your original question,
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  Speaker 6: tells they've always been more of tweeners to me, like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but but but Rowlins. If you've watched your matches
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  Speaker 1: over the last what three weeks now they've been I mean, handshaking,
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  Speaker 1: doing promos on the mic where they're paying respects mal
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  Speaker 1: type Black hugged and.
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  Speaker 4: That was a.
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 7: I don't like them as faces either, House of Black.
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  Speaker 7: I don't like them as faces at all.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think they're definitively babyfaces. That's the thing. They're tweeters.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you trying to jump in?
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, I'm trying to behave myself today. For
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  Speaker 4: the most part, I have to agree with with the
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  Speaker 4: toastmaster General over yonder what this really all ultimately is
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  Speaker 4: going to I know, I could be clever. What this
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  Speaker 4: ultimately is going to boil down to. It starts down
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  Speaker 4: from the top, which is the mox A e W
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  Speaker 4: versus the New Way and who's going to what side?
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  Speaker 7: Now?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I agree with both Toast and Rollins that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the House of Black betweeners always had the
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  Speaker 4: always will be. The whole idea is, you know, restoring
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  Speaker 4: honor to the craft of violence, and that wrestled the
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  Speaker 4: wrestling is Arena is the platform in which they've chosen
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  Speaker 4: to use to do that, and they want to pull
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  Speaker 4: that honor out of everyone else. I think that was
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  Speaker 4: the hug that he gave Cole. But I do want
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  Speaker 4: to highlight if you consider Adam Cole, he's carried his
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  Speaker 4: character through every promotion that he's been in and it's
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  Speaker 4: always the long game with who he's going to turn
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  Speaker 4: on In the end. He isn't any better than MJF.
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  Speaker 4: He turned. He's turned on the Undisputed, He's turned on Right.
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  Speaker 4: He's turned on every single member of on Disputed Kingdom, Robbie, Roddy,
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  Speaker 4: Bobby and Kyle o'rally. He turned on the Bucks, he
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  Speaker 4: turned on the Bullet Club, he turned on his fat
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  Speaker 4: and NXT. I mean it's it's I can't even you
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  Speaker 4: can't call Adam Cole babyface now if you want to
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  Speaker 4: talk about actual babyfaces right now, they turned the Bolt
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  Speaker 4: Club Gold or the Bang Bang Gang. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if the Bullet Club Gold even exists in name anymore.
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  Speaker 4: They just hijack Bang Bank Gang. They're straight up baby faces,
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  Speaker 4: straight up baby faces now, and I would like to
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  Speaker 4: see them as a heel faction to answer to wrap
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  Speaker 4: this all back around to Kelson's original question. You know,
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  Speaker 4: because the Bolt Club initially was a heel faction. Designed
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  Speaker 4: to screw with anything anyone had going on for any
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  Speaker 4: reason at any time, and you're just not seeing a
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  Speaker 4: lot of those type of liberties being taken in storytelling.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm gonna shut up after this, but I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: say it every week in terms of Tony Kahn's booking,
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  Speaker 4: I say it every week he is like a nine
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  Speaker 4: year old plane with action figures, want to have the story,
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  Speaker 4: doing his own fantasy booking, and that he has carried
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  Speaker 4: that vibe through the entire timeline of AW.
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  Speaker 2: So this, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Who else has something to say about it?
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  Speaker 8: I do? Uh okay, I like a bullet flumb girl.
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  Speaker 8: That face is it's fun, They're exciting. Uh yeah, I
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  Speaker 8: love Jay White has a face right now he's doing
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  Speaker 8: something fun, but he could still be kind of kind
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  Speaker 8: of that screener. But he's fun to listen to. Who
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  Speaker 8: doesn't far in love the juice and the guns are
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  Speaker 8: just the guns. So I mean, they're doing the thing
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  Speaker 8: that they need to be doing, and I enjoy it
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  Speaker 8: more than them. As heels myself.
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  Speaker 5: One of the guns injured right now, I.
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  Speaker 1: Believe you don't believe?
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  Speaker 5: So oh yeah, I just hadn't seen him in a
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  Speaker 5: while and was wondering, so death do you.
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  Speaker 1: Accept the the why I almost said the bang Bang gang?
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go ahead and say that, uh when
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  Speaker 1: I meant the gang gang bang?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Would you? Would you say that being a face makes
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  Speaker 1: Jay White's brothing at the mouth more acceptable to you? Oh? God, no,
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  Speaker 1: not at all.
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  Speaker 7: There's no way to make that acceptable.
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  Speaker 1: That is the growth that that brings that up. And
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  Speaker 1: I bring that up a lot. I mean Jay White
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  Speaker 1: as a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Let's face it, guys, he's got something going on there.
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  Speaker 1: What Uh So anybody else have something to say about
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  Speaker 1: this this topic? Okay, We've got a lot to go over,
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  Speaker 1: So let's go. I kind of want to stick similar
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  Speaker 1: to this what we just talked about, because we brought
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  Speaker 1: up Adam Cole and Adam Cole is currently in that
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  Speaker 1: first to win three way three with Roderick Strong. We
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  Speaker 1: all thought that it was gonna be one of those
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  Speaker 1: things where Roderick Strong and Adam Cole are gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to fight each other to get the championship shot at
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  Speaker 1: full gear. But now Adam Cole throws a wrinkle at
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  Speaker 1: do it say? And he spoke to Tony Kahan and
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  Speaker 1: Tony Khan said that if they're tied at three wins each,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a three way match at full gear.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys, I do not want
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  Speaker 1: to see a three way match for a championship or
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  Speaker 1: not for the championship, but against MJF one gear. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I want to see it one on one match.
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  Speaker 1: That's where these guys shined. In my opinion, we see
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  Speaker 1: too many of these. I mean, three way match just
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  Speaker 1: seems like a cheap way to get three guys in
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  Speaker 1: the rig instead of two. What are your opinions on that?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'll jump in here because Shane, I want your
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  Speaker 6: thoughts on what I'm gonna say. I've been pretty I
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  Speaker 6: have a pretty good track record of predicting the old turns.
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  Speaker 6: I think Strung is about to earn on Adam and
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  Speaker 6: that's why they're gonna do this triple threat match.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I actually partially agreed with
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  Speaker 4: That's agree with that statement. From a logistical perspective, Adam
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  Speaker 4: Cole is still he's still injured, and he's still wrestling
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  Speaker 4: like he's injured. I know that he's working the hell
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  Speaker 4: out of that injury. And that's fine, that's his job,
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  Speaker 4: you know, but having Roddy present is another person to
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  Speaker 4: help carry him through a match, and Roddy is great.
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  Speaker 4: You know. One of my one of my favorite wrestling
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  Speaker 4: moments from last year. And I know here he goes
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  Speaker 4: saying something controversial was watching I was at the event
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  Speaker 4: watching Roddy Strong drum Darby Allen straight on his head.
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  Speaker 4: It was great.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Collison, would you set right behind me?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? That spot was savage. And that's every single that's
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  Speaker 4: every single Roddy match now. I I also agree with Kelson.
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  Speaker 4: I want to see something one on one, but will
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  Speaker 4: MJF carry it or do they need the additional support?
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  Speaker 4: So and you know what, if they separate Adam Cole
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  Speaker 4: from the Undisputed Kingdom, that just gives you know them
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  Speaker 4: an opportunity to do a trios run, which I'd like
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  Speaker 4: to see those belts lifted off the BCC or the
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  Speaker 4: Death Riders as soon as humanly possible.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think either one of them we're going to
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  Speaker 2: face it in JF a full year, because it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a miracle if Adam Cole beats to Cash one.
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  Speaker 1: Last day exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I mean how do you how do you make the
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  Speaker 2: third person in his match, the one of the best
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  Speaker 2: wrestlers in ae W at the time, the current international champion,
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  Speaker 2: and expect him to get the win. Who's Rodney got
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  Speaker 2: to face for the third Have they announced.
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  Speaker 1: That yet is one of the most winning man in
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  Speaker 1: the history of a W.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got what through two weeks, less than two
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  Speaker 2: weeks till we till we had the pay per view,
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  Speaker 2: So Saturday after next so you've got about ten days.
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  Speaker 2: You've got Roddy going up against Lance Archer. Should be
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  Speaker 2: a squash match. There's no way Roddy's beating him. Roddy
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  Speaker 2: I disagree with you on how good Roddy is because
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  Speaker 2: with the the what do you call him? Kilson? The
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  Speaker 2: Unnecessary Kingdom, They they are not worth having in a
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  Speaker 2: W because they're nothing without gold, they're nothing and they
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  Speaker 2: haven't been anything, and they're not very good in the ring.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you have those two guys beat two
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  Speaker 2: impossible wins?
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  Speaker 4: Let's pump the brakes you're talking about you're talking about
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  Speaker 4: the Undisputed like Undisputed Kingdom. Every single member of that
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  Speaker 4: faction has held a world title in almost every promotion
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  Speaker 4: in America, and yes in America and half in Japan.
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  Speaker 9: But here's they.
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  Speaker 2: Haven't done it playing in a w except be horrible.
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  Speaker 2: They're boring, They're not good most of the time. Most
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  Speaker 2: people don't look at them as being even needing to
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  Speaker 2: be in a match on the show. But the point is,
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  Speaker 2: you got those two guys going to Buckgins, two of
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  Speaker 2: their hardest opponents. I don't think it's gonna happen. I
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  Speaker 2: think what I think is gonna happen is they're both
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  Speaker 2: gonna lose this week, which is gonna give them three
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  Speaker 2: shows to have. They'll have Collision, Well, Roddy will probably
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  Speaker 2: lose on Collision. You'll have Collision or Collision Dynamite and
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  Speaker 2: the other show on next week to get three matches
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  Speaker 2: in to try to win again. Yesdown, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Want program you're do. You literally just said Roddy is
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  Speaker 4: a horrible wrestler.
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  Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure the match between Archer and Roddy is
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  Speaker 6: a falls count anywhere match.
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  Speaker 4: That's because you guys, don Kallas the facts, He's not
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  Speaker 4: gonna go over. There's gonna be don Kallis interference. They're
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  Speaker 4: going to cross over. The storyline is a device to
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  Speaker 4: remove Roddy in the Undisputed king Kingdom from that feud,
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  Speaker 4: and most likely it's going to be cool MJFF at
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  Speaker 4: the pay per view.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be the next one.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say something, go.
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  Speaker 5: Ahead, I think uh, I think Roddy should win tomorrow
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  Speaker 5: night and Adam Cole should lose. I don't think Takashka
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  Speaker 5: should be taking two pinfalls two weeks in a row
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  Speaker 5: being the international champion, exactly, agreed.
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  Speaker 4: I agreed.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that Archer should win as well. I
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  Speaker 1: really do. I want to backtrack a little bit, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I do jokingly call the Undisputed Kingdom the Unnecessary Kingdom.
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  Speaker 1: Do I think that they suck as wrestlers? No? Do
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  Speaker 1: I think that they suck as a faction? Absolutely, they're there,
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  Speaker 1: but they have no charisma and no chemistry together.
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  Speaker 8: Away from it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah r I p Bobby Fish? Yes, yeah, like where's
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  Speaker 4: the lie to so.
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  Speaker 1: Probably well?
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  Speaker 6: Remember I think it was on last week's time Mike
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  Speaker 6: Kyle O'Reilly was backstage watching Adam Cole.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was.
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  Speaker 2: He's been backstage watching him every match.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's now. I would also specify here and clarify
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  Speaker 1: that my problems that I've had with Roderick Strong over
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  Speaker 1: the he went a three month period of time where
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  Speaker 1: on Collision, Dynamite and Rampage something. That's the other one. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he was wrestling twice a week every week for like
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  Speaker 1: three months. It's just over exposure. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: care who you are, you're seeing them every single show,
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  Speaker 1: basically because when he wasn't wrestling, he was doing something.
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  Speaker 1: And it's the same thing that I had a problem
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  Speaker 1: with Kyle O'Reilly and O Orange Cassidy. I get bored
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  Speaker 1: seeing I don't care how good you are, I get
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  Speaker 1: bored seeing the same thing over and over again, especially
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  Speaker 1: when you know that it's gonna be you know, the
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Kyle O'Reilly and Orange Cassidy against some form of the
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  Speaker 1: Undisputed Kingdom and vice versa. They just rotate them out,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so it's basically, you know, the same match
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  Speaker 1: over and over again.
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  Speaker 6: The other thing I don't understand is didn't have him
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  Speaker 6: call in his first promo back say hey, I'm this
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  Speaker 6: read Kingdom. I want to do this by myself.
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  Speaker 2: He did, but that was before MGF made it where
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  Speaker 2: Rowdy inserted himself into it and then when I'MJFF made
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  Speaker 2: the condition that whoever gets three wins first, and he
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  Speaker 2: did say whoever gets three wins first, right, He didn't
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  Speaker 2: say whoever gets three wins. He said, whoever gets three
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  Speaker 2: fins three wins first, I'll face it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'm not So.
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  Speaker 5: If that's the case, that's what he said, saw from
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  Speaker 5: crossed and costing Roddy the match tomorrow, Well.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing for that. But the point is, if Roddy
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  Speaker 2: gets this win, Let's say Roddy wins tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Before wrestling uh Adams wrestling tomorrow.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, so by by MGF statement, whoever gets three
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  Speaker 9: wins first will be my opponent at full gear.
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  Speaker 2: There's no chance that should make it, no chance to
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  Speaker 2: have a three way because if Cole goes on first
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  Speaker 2: and beats Takeshta, he gets three wins first, and the
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  Speaker 2: story game's over. Doesn't matter what Roddy does. But I
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  Speaker 2: like how they sometimes they'll do that where they'll say
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  Speaker 2: one thing but don't mean that. They'll change it to
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  Speaker 2: something where if both of them get three wins, then
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  Speaker 2: there'll be a three there'll be a three way.
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  Speaker 1: Let me let me post a hypothetical question, and Net
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: specifically and the others could answer this too. Let's hypothetically
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: say that the Adam Cole match against Takeshta is the
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: first match of the show. Do we see Roderick Strong
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: interfering and costing a causing a disqualification, and then Adam
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Cole getting pissed off and doing the same thing, and
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: that may set up Adam Cole versus Roderick Strong next week.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: What do you think about that, Net?
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: I can see that as a possibility, but I don't
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: think it necessarily will happen. I think that each of
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: them need to go off and wrestle separate people and
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: not really interfere in one another's matches. They need to
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: build themselves up separately and have their own individual things
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: going on so that they can look. Whoever does win
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: this needs to look really really strong in facing mjs,
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: So I would I would prefer.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: To experience, Shane, you had a reaction I heard, I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: saw you react to my question, crossed your mind.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: No, I'm actually you know. I tend to do this
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: in my podcasting arena, and I'm looking up aw news
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: to make sure that when I'm giving information, I'm giving
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: accurate information and make you know we're on the that
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: I don't want to get us off topic. And Max
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: was talking about Shane McMahon with The New York Post
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: today that I'll save that. I do have something to
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: say about that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, So does anybody else have anything to say about
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the Adam Cole Roderick Strong MGF.
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: The only thing I'll say about is it's hurt the
• 21:19
  Speaker 10: feud that MJF hasn't been able to do his usual
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: in ring promos. It had to be all backstage stuff.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: I think it's made the feud very messy and hard
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: to follow. I think that's part of the reason why
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: we all get so invested in MJF feuds is because
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: of his in ring promos. That's for me personally, That's
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: part of the major reason why I'm just not quite
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: as invested in this feud.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: You know, we we've talked about it. We've talked about
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: the Jericho Bar text before. It seems like the three
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: of them are also caught in their own vour text,
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: and by by default, so are the Undisputed Kingdom and
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: Kyle O'Reilly. They're all caught in this together, and they
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: need to find a way to break out of it.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: You probably.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Kyle o' and U, Gorge Cassidy and Mark Briscoe.
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: They're all stuck in this never ending.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Roll up.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: It just made the list A scenario.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I got a scenario. How you end this? Okay, they
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: both lose tomorrow night and Jeff does a he might
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: even come out to do this, not if it will
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: be entering or vignette, but he said. He comes on
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: and does the whole Oh, I'm so sorry you guys
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: didn't make it. Uh, and he decides that they'll give
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: him one more shot. They have to face the Outher
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: three times best best of three. Whoever wins faces am fool.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Year see that. I wouldn't I see them happened. I
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: can see them doing one. I don't want to see
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: them Russell three times that. Yeah, even though piggyback that yeah,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: what toast go first because he had something to say. Yeah,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I was just I.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: Was just agreeing. Yeah, I think this just has to end.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: And I think, uh, we're forgetting about wardlow Wardlow two.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: He should be coming back soon, and I think he's
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: going to factor.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Into the ending of this feud.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know how.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean Wardlow was part of the old.
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: It's just hard to see him going back to MJF.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I was thinking, I was thinking that.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: I was also thinking maybe they all turn on Uh,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: Adam Cole and m JF is the quote unquote devil.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: See that's your daughter's day.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: One of them, one of them.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she's quite the uh the character she.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, they've dropped in on this pod before.
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: I'd like to see Roddick Strong pause Adam Cole to
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: lose and tell him he's doing it for a reason,
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: and then he's doing it for him and that saves
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: him from the match, because I don't I think it's ready.
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: I think it's better if they make it longer out
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: for him to get better in the ring and the
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: more comfortable in the ring, and then finally those two
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: can go at each other and they can care. I
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: don't doubt that JF could ever not carry a match
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: between the two. He's carried matches between you know, he
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: carried Brian Coman junior, So why couldn't he carry Adam Cole.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: So yeah, you're not wrong, that's a you're not wrong
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I just wanted to take a second here before
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: we go on to our next discussion topic to give
• 25:28
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• 25:44
  Speaker 1: He's one of the moderators there. I've been posting on
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: blue Sky and on Reddit and all these really incredible
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: facts that I've been pulling, and also on our discord
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: directly from all lead rankings dot com. You can look
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: up matches story, you can look up who has the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: longest winning streak, longest losing streak by year, Men's division,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: women's division, trios, double duos, singles, matches, you name it,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: you can find it. If you're a statistics geek.
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: Like I am.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: You know I fully admit doing it. You are going
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• 26:29
  Speaker 1: that you guys are going to love it. So let's
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: move on. We talked a little bit about this with
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: the guns. We talked about the guns because Billy Gunn
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: is part of the acclaimed trios. But now it looks
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: like Max Caster and Anthony Bowen's are going to split up.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, all the signs are there. Will you guys
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: agree with that? And the other thing that a lot
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: of people are talking about are to your turning heel.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Uh so I don't see. I don't see Aftery Bowen's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: turning heel. I can definitely see Max Caster turning heel
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: after your turning heel. What do you guys feel about this?
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Uh? Heel runs and other promotions, and they're great at heels.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: They're fantastic the other way you cut it, Yeah, it
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: sure did. So any way you cut it, Yeah, any
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: way you cut it, they're gonna look great on screen.
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: So I just hope that if Castor actually does turn heel,
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: that he needs to cut the I don't think I'm
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: enjoying the the rap promos anymore. I think he needs
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: to cut that and just be well what he thinks.
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: He as the world greatest wrestler. So, but that's what
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: I'm hoping.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Red. Are you still here? I want to hear what
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: your thoughts are after your turning heel?
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: I think, oh, sorry, sorry, I think.
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: They're a working heel tag team in the world. They're incredible.
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: I mean they did the slightest minutia. They're they're so
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: great when they're heel. They were great with totally Blanchard
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: uh And I think they've gotten to this rut where
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: they have this same rhythm, the same raw raw aw
• 28:20
  Speaker 11: ra raw ftr raw raw. I got to feed my
• 28:23
  Speaker 11: wife and kids promos, and I think they need need
• 28:26
  Speaker 11: a change.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, well not you seem like you had something to say,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: so go ahead.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, sorry about that, but I was I was
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: still a little bit on the the acclaimed just a
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: little bit. I had a thought we were talking about
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: Max cast or possibly turning heel. I actually think that
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: Anthony Bowen is going to turn heel. I don't think
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: that it's Max at all. I think it's easy to
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: think that it is Max based on a lot of
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: his recent behavior and making Google eyes at Bobby Lashley,
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: but I I don't think so.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: So why why what's the catalyst behind your Anthony?
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: I think because Anthony Bowens is he's he has a
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: quietness about him, but he is He's very very passionate
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: if you watch him closely, and he really does not
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: like anyone kind of overstepping into his friendship. He's kind
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: of like, hey, get out of here, you can't bully me,
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: you can't talk to us kind of thing. And I
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: think somebody I don't know who is going to push
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: him just far enough where he is wanting to just.
• 30:01
  Speaker 12: Turn on Max and go his own way and you know,
• 30:09
  Speaker 12: be kind of that lone angry guy, and Max is
• 30:13
  Speaker 12: gonna be the one who kind of tries to talk
• 30:15
  Speaker 12: some sense in him and let's be nice and let's
• 30:19
  Speaker 12: be friends, and it's just not gonna work out.
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: I can see the twist in their story. We'll see.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, the only thing that would worry me about
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: that situation is Bowen's falling to obscurity. Max Caster joins
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: the Hurt Syndicate and he's automatically got a higher platform
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: to stand on with as fresh as that idea has
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: been for aew you know, they did the same thing
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: with Billy Gonebeck during the the Attitude area where they
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: separated him from DX. He won the Undercontinental title and
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: fell off like a bad habit. Three months later was
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Beck in DX.
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: You know, like, I don't who's the better fit. Do
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: you think Cash is a better fit or Bones is
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: a better fit for for uh uh? The Hirst syndicate
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: or whatever the name is.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: So with Castor, his biggest problem is he's gotta he's
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: got to stay out of trouble outside of a e
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: w Oh. Yeah, he's you know, he got his raps
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: taken away from him because he wouldn't follow what Tony
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Kahan wanted to do. And he's been known to make
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: some of the dumbest comments or agree with thumb comments
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: on X or wherever. So you know, there might come
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: a time where it doesn't matter who he goes with
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: because he may not be around. Don't want to Yeah,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see Bones turn heel because I
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: don't think Bones. I think Bones would be much more
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: successful and we already have enough heels. We don't need
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: any more heels.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: He would be an amazing guy to wrestle as a
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: face because everybody, you know, everybody love of the two.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I think if people had to make a choice between
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: having either cast or Bowens, they're picking Bones.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: I think he's the better of the two wrestlers. Personally,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: I agree, Yes he is. I mean he has a
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: great bring psychology, his his move set is very well practiced.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Max Caster has had some very notable botches, And yeah,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: I agree. In his personal life as well, the dude
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: has had a dozen suspensions and finds issued to him
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: behind the scenes in the past three years. He doesn't
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: know how to shut up when he doesn't get his way,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: and to my understanding, he's not that easy to work with.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: So I mean, from a logistical standpoint, yeah, separating them
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: and you know, kind of marginalizing Max's role makes more sense.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: But I don't really see a world where the two
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: of them can exist without each other. It's kind of
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: like the Legion to Doom. You know, you can separate
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: hawk and animal, but they're the most effective when they're together.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't, you know, they haven't really had
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: a chance to be a part. There's not been too
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: many injuries there that were long range.
• 32:56
  Speaker 13: So he didn't like after like eight months at one points,
• 33:04
  Speaker 13: at one point, right with a neck injury, Like, but
• 33:07
  Speaker 13: I couldn't really I didn't know it was that long.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't think it was that long anyway, I didn't
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: feel that long. But you know what I'm saying, they
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: didn't have enough time. I really think Bones could become
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: a superstar. He kind of reminds me of Sky.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh toast were you? Were you trying to say
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: something there? I know, No, not on this topic. Okay,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Well then let's move on because I think we're gonna
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: have a pretty pretty uh passionate discussion about the next topic,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and that's the a W women's division. Look, we've got
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: some interesting stuff going on here. Uh. Look, I arguably
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the best story of the women's division in the last
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: twelve months has been the Mariah May Tony storm and
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: even with Mina Sheri Kawa and that triangle. Fortunately, because
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the visa issues mean to share, Kawa has not been around.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: That has been taken care of, and it was announced
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: that she's going to have a pretty extended stay. It
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: seems like in aw now Tony Starmer course has been
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: m i A for weeks now, basically since she's lost
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the championship. Riyat May has been We've talked about him.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Maria May has been in some fairly predictable and unnecessary
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I guess matches. I mean, personally, I think the best
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: match she had was against Yukazakazaki that was weeks ago.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: But then we also have had Thondorosa's out had a concussion. Well,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Nightingale had a concussion. Trulia Hart has been out, Kate
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Mellow has been out. We've got a really good roster
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: at a w of really really talented women who aren't wrestling,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and I think the most important thing is to get
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: them back because there's only so much you can do
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: with the with who's left, because there's really not that
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: many big names, and for some reason, the big names
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: that are there, it seems like Tony Cown's kind of
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: uh wary, I'm pulling the trigger on them. I don't
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: know how better to explain. I mean, Penelophie Pod had
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: a fantastic match she's against Jamie Hayter. Jamie Hayter is
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: not fought up, really a contender for the championship yet.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: You know, Britt Baker has been spotty at best. Of course,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Mercedes Monet has got two belts, so I guess she's
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: doing fine. But you see where I'm going here. We
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: just don't have we had the champions and everybody else.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: We need the champions and contenders. What do you guys think?
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: I thought is doing a movie right now.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: No, she's wrapped.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: No, she's had matches in cmll D he and New Japan.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: She's doing the world Tony Stormman, Camille, we're both filming
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: a movie.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: She just had a Yeah.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying is that she did she You are
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: correct and saying that she was filming a movie, so
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: was Camille. Ah And but I believe that rap months ago. Now,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: of course there's maybe reshoots and things like that going on.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: But as Shane said, she's been in Japan. She's lost
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: matches in Japan, Mexico and where else did she lose
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: a match?
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: She's she's had done. Yeah, she's but she's also like
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: doing indie spots and she's showing up at conventions. She's
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: kind of doing the the the pr War. But she was,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: you know, it's not a secret at this point. She's
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: been named the Wrestle of the Year, uh you know
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: by ESPN. Yeah, like the female women's Wrestler the Year.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Like I'm looking at the women's wrestler right now and
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: wrestling roster right now and the weight Like my external
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: perspective on this is Tony doesn't know how to pull
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: the trigger on making the stars that have brought eyes
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: onto his women's locker room loose. You have some of
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: the best women's right, you have the best women's wrestlers
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: on Earth on the AW roster. You have Deanna Parrazzo,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: you have Emmy Sakura, you have I watching Marina Shafir
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Kara Hogan match. Leila hirsh is a savage Penelope for
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: it does a savage red velvet. You know, Serena Deep
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: could wrestle, but is a absolute.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Karoshida y Kasaka.
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: Zaki by Blue Wing healthy.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I mean Sky Blue was a little rough around the
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: edges to start, but it's fantastic now. Queen Amnada, Queen
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Amadada should be wearing that TBS Championship. I feel that
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Mercedes Monet's role in AAW has cheapened the division. Now
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: you have more eyes on the TBS title right now
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: than the Women's World Championship, which has been the case
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: since Jade Cargill was in AW. Then you have all
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: of these women that are being sidelined and getting fifteen
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: minutes on a promo per show, like you can have
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: a whole show for just the women. They're all wildly talented, great,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: most of them are great at cutting promos, and they're
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: all just sitting right now. It's almost insulting. It's like
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I've said this on this pod before, but Tony Khan
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: really needs to bring in someone externally to help him
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: develop storylines for his for women's programming. And I hope
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: that takes more of a focus in the future because
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: a lot of these women are gonna leave. I guarantee
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: you it's the intentive.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Did with Jed Pepperman Tony Khan that the problem is
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Tony Khan having somebody to do creative for the women's
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: division because he's got that. The problem is is that
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Jody Khan, Tony Khan has injuries in the women's division,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: and he's stubbornly waiting for the injuries to go away
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: so he can slowly work them back in to the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: story he had in mind in June. And you can't
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: do that. You, as we said earlier, you've got to adjust.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: When you have something that happens that's out of your control,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: You've got to adjust. You can't just put it on
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the shelf and say, well, pick it back up in
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: six months when he or she comes back.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I think the problem is the problem is he's he's
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: he's been doing this as a kid. He made all
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: these The story is that he's made all these fabulous
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: cars that he used to do when a kid, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: he's put a projection on what he wants to do
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: for the next three four years, and he cannot change
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: from that. He cannot move away from what he's got planned.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: He's proven that. I mean, he yeah, but I mean,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: if this is going to happen, this isn't just with
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: the women or the man. This is everything he does,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: and until he gets out of that, it's gonna be
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: this way. The biggest problem with the women's division, I
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: said this a couple of weeks ago, until you get
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: rid of the matches where you're putting somebody against somebody
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: who is not the greatest wrestler and making them and
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: having to make them look fantastic against like, for example,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Camille versus Queen Amanada. Camille looked like crap against Queen Amanada.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Queen Amanada is not on the top level yet, She's
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: going to be there soon enough, but Camille looked like
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: crap against her. You put her up against that lander
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: a week later and she looks like a goddess that
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: that's never gonna lose.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: For a while and interrupt you sad, that is fairly
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: on just not being that I want Queen Domanada, Shane,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: you just shouted out Queen Amanada. I think she has
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: a fantastic future. She is not a made event talent
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: by any mean.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: No, she's not not yet. She will.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Be, She will be well.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: But if you want another example, Look, you all are
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: going to disagree with me on this, but I don't care.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Money is not what they think she is. She's the
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: perfect example of what an ex WWE woman's wrestler is.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Because WWE doesn't do anything well with their women. She's
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: not great in the ring. The fans are tired of her.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: They don't they don't cheer for her, they don't look
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: to her. I mean, my son said, well, she's a
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: hell that doesn't exist in aw.
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: I'm tired of that.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: The CEO chants are in her music. It's not the
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: fans like she came out and text that Linar the
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: other day. Not one person you watched the background in
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: the fans, they didn't care. They didn't care.
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: If you're gonna be a star.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: You she needs.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: If they have her beat Statlander at O Gear, it
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: will be the biggest mistake they've made in a w
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: because There is no way in hell that Monetue can
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: be Stantlander. She's not on Statlanders level.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Period. Do you know who's going to be money for
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the title?
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: If they give it to Camille, it's another mistake. It'll
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: be a Jay Card Gill all over again.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be a Sena. It's gonna be Athena. She's
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: gonna lose.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: The title.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Noina is not going to go from the rh World
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Women's title to the to the TBS title. That's not
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: gonna happen. Well, it comes to AW, she's going to
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: be immediately put into women's title.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: That that said right now, that TBS title means more
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: than the AW Women's title. And you're bringing Athena up,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: you gotta give her the hot title.
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: No, she's gonna stay down there for a while. She's
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: with that division. I'll play down there.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question, why do you believe
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: that Athena is one of the only things, is one
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: of the few things that's putting eyes on the R
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: O H product. That's why she's still there. But that
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: exactly she's She's a better wrestler wrestler than eighty percent
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: of the of the main a w women's roster, that's
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: a fact.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: And she but and she said she will never come
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: to a w as long as she has the R title.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, Final Battle. Well, there's only really two names in
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: R o H right now, and that's Athena and Chris Jericho,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: although Chris Jericho as far as I know, hasn't done
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: squad in R o H. But he's got the title.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: If they are going to get a TV deal, they
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: need Athena in R o H. Yeah.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: The fact that they have Statlander going after the TBS
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: title again, it's just ridiculous, Like she.
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: Is.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I agree, she should be going to the women's title.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Slander should be going for the women's title, not the Tvstlander.
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: Is above the TVs title. She already had her reign
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: with it. She needs to be going. She should be
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: the one taking down Mariah May for the women's championship.
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: Some one has to pick it off. And and like
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: it or not, Monet is a bigger name than Mariah May.
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: If she can beat she could beat Money. She's a
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: bigger star for it is great. But Monet is widely
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: known as as one of the four horsemen. Yes, she's
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: one of the weakest, and I don't believe he's a
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: star here. But if you but but if she does
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: as she manhandles, like she narrow a truck last week,
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: then she can handle money and had become a bigger
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: star and use that bell to change the course, because
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: right now I'm tired of seeing Monette with it.
• 44:43
  Speaker 14: Stat Lander doesn't need a second running with the TBS
• 44:47
  Speaker 14: tild She's doing nothing right now though, absolutely nothing besides
• 44:52
  Speaker 14: hanging with Stokely.
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: And now she wants a title, and now she should
• 44:55
  Speaker 8: get it. She's earned it. She is a w women's
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: division period.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, she she kept the aw women's division together through
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: the pandemic when you had all the injuries and you
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: were coming off the Baker and Cargil Bagasco's and it
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: was dat Lander who rebuilt the division until you had
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Julia come back, until you had you know, everybody else
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: that came in. And she's done it off of two
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: knee injuries, and she still puts herself out there for
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: everything else. The problem in the women's division is you
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: have way too many women that don't deserve to be
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: in the spots they're in. You're putting them there, and
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: that's kind of changed. And if it doesn't change, it's
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: never going to get better.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Well, here's my point is that I'd like to make
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: is that we AW needs more stories and views away
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: from the TBS title and the AW Women's title. Some
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: of the more entertaining things that have happened over the
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: several last several years been non title things. Remember Hakarashida
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: and Serena Deeb. I was totally invested with that, and
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: there was no title involved with that. I even liked
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the Deanna Parozzo and thunder rosa thing. I thought maybe
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: you had won too many matches or maybe even to
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: too many matches, but they still did something good with that.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: They can have memorable matches in a w with women
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: not being in a title match. Case of point New
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Year's Bash, the Bunny and Padelot before it against a
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: j People are still talking about that, you know, so
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: you can have great matches and memorable matches without a
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: title being involved. However, the.
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: Britt Baker versus thunder Rose and that liked out match
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: that was.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: For the title match. Yeah, thunders.
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: Always it still right here.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Here's here's something that I saw somebody in uh I
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: think it was on the Reddit talking about they need
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: to do. A women's only show. Never work. It's never
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: worked anywhere else. It's not I mean even like New Japan. Listen,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: give me up, give me work.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Hear me out, hear me out, let me finish.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: In the United States, a women's only thing is never
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: gonna work. It hasn't worked in WWE. New Japan has
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: a sister promotion that is totally opposite. It's full of
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: women what they should this, This could make you benefit
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: all the women in a W and r o H
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: if you want it. Since the men's never wrestle, the
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: men's titles are never defended in r o H. Ever,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: they're always defended on a w pay per views unless
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: there's an r o H pay per view. But the
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: women change it so that r o H is women only.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Let them go. They could build so much could be
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: built there. You've got your best women on the roster,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: is holding the r o H title and let it
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: go and see what happens. Because you're never going to
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: sell a full on women's pay per view or a
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: full on women's show of a two hour show or
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: one hour show is never going to succeed in a
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: in the US, it's never has in the past.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I agree, it's the pay per view may work if
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: they give the women time leading up to the pay
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: per view. If they're just gonna be a woman in
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: a pay per view and say this is the card,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: go buy it. But they Yeah, WW did WWE did
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: a women's only pay per view was massively successful with
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: an aa W TV show. Show talked about Shockwave being
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: an hour show. First of all, an hour show is
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: never gonna work. I don't care what you put on it.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Ramp Page is a testament to that, and I don't
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: think that has anything to do with it being on Friday.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: It's just that one hour is too short of a
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: show for wrestling show all. The problem, the biggest problem
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I have with a one hour or two hour all
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: women's wrestling show is that it will get buried in
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: a terrible time slot, and then it'll give Tony Conn
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: an excuse not to put any women on Dynamite or Collision,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: especially on Dynamite where people actually watch it. So you're
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: not gonna get a popularity. As far as with the
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: way Tony Conn is established right now, and you want
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: to have a women's pay per view, Tony Con start
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: putting four matches each on, four matches on dynamite, four
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: matches on collision, and maybe two matches on rampage. That
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: are women for a couple of months leading up to it.
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: Would the women see a Women's Continental Classic either? And
• 49:43
  Speaker 8: I'm not sure if that'll work either.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Now I've said it before and I'll say it again.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I definitely would rather see a women's tag title.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Then, yeah, where are the women's tag titles? Man? Like that?
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: That's how you work some of these non working AW
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: women's uh but wrestlers back in programs, you could. You
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: have so many options. You could do Red Velvet and Kirahgans.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: I have Valkyrie's already working with excuse me, Diana Prazzo,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Jamie Hayter and Britt Baker go get back together, and
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: aj could get back together, Harley Cameron and so Rea
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: could get back together. Uh Kaka Yukasakazaki and uh Rokaroshido.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: You have so many options, like malleable options to build
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: a women's tag team.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: But don't don't forget too that You've got women in
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: CMO well and in start of that AW has partnered
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: with that. They could come over and do tag team
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: matches as well, yeah, it's a good part of be
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: a viable part of a tag team championship.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: I mean they they let FTR carry you know, championships
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: from three whole promotions. I hate to cross them and
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: to this conversation, but like, it's completely it's one of
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: the most slept on ideas that ae W has had
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: since its inception. And again, I know it's not the
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: first time that we've discussed that on these pods, but
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: you know, Tony Khan, man, it's time to pull the
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: trigger on women's tag titles. Man book it.
• 51:02
  Speaker 11: Yeah, fail and WWE hugely, Like you get absorbed in
• 51:07
  Speaker 11: the division, just like the trio's division. You think at
• 51:09
  Speaker 11: the beginning, oh, this is a great idea with so
• 51:11
  Speaker 11: many guys who could be in trios, and then it's
• 51:14
  Speaker 11: now you have a bunch of teams don't make any sense,
• 51:17
  Speaker 11: and then they split up, and then now you don't
• 51:19
  Speaker 11: have anything, and now you're just make shifting teams.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Added hurt the tag team division.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: And here's the other thing about that. Part of the
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: reason why they're so lack of women's matches on the
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: shows is the men's roster is so large and has
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: so much talent on it that they're not going to
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: schedule matches that are And don't get me wrong, I
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: love some of the women that are in the AW
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: and I hate some of their in a w There
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: are some great matches on the women's side, but you're
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: not gonna find anybody that's gonna take away from until
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: they get the storylines fixed and they get some better
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: commons and some better things going. Taking away an extra
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: men's match during the show is not gonna help. It's
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: not gonna help the ratings, it's not gonna help the viewers.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna help because unfortunately it's been like that,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: and women's wrestling everywhere in the US but suck.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: You've got to get the matches and you've got to
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: get the time to make good TV matches. You can't
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: agree go out there. You just contradicted yourself totally.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: But I agree that that would be great. But right now,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: with as bad as Tony Kahn is running the women's division,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: you know you said earlier he needs to get outside help.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: He does need outside help more than he's got.
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: For the women's division and Kenny helping him. What happened
• 52:47
  Speaker 7: is help with the women's division.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Got Jeff Pepper Ben, he's got Bill Washington, He's got
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Kenny Omega. The thing that he's got to get out
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: of the way he doesn't want is Tony k you know,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: is a control freak.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: I mean the Yeah, it's totally worked for him with
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: the Jags this year, right, you know, he he's gatekeeping
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: his own product. It's a fact, and he's been doing
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: it since day one.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: Again, it's the the whole We could really break this
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: entire pod today down to the shortcomings of Tony Kan,
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: which is frustrating because we all love aw Right. It
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: is my preferred flavor of professional wrestling. You know, I
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: think I could probably speak for most of you here
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: to that being the case.
• 53:42
  Speaker 8: It's fair because he's done some good things, give a
• 53:45
  Speaker 8: lot of storylines.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: I think he's done things in the past five five
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: years that should have been commonplace in wrestling for decades.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: You know, he created a wrestling market that gave all
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: of these people a platform to practice and hone in
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: their art outside of a monopoly, a major monopoly that
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: has poisoned the entire wrestling infrastructure in the world. You know,
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: the DU's the genius and he's done amazing things. I agree,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: but I do think that hit a W's biggest problem
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: can potentially be Tony Kahnan.
• 54:20
  Speaker 8: Well, I disagree.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I think the women's problem that he has with women's
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: wrestling is Tony Khan was brought up in the times
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: where women's wrestling didn't exist. Before you had the Attitude era,
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: there was hardly any women's matches on TV. You have,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: you had nothing.
• 54:40
  Speaker 11: A guy who watches Japanese wrestling, he had to have
• 54:42
  Speaker 11: been watching all japan women's wrestling, like exactly. I don't think.
• 54:46
  Speaker 11: I think the problem the whole booking method is that
• 54:53
  Speaker 11: we have titles featured on this show, and they're just
• 54:55
  Speaker 11: two women's titles. There's only so much based on the
• 54:59
  Speaker 11: pay per view. I mean, I don't know if that
• 55:01
  Speaker 11: means you need to throw in another or their feuds
• 55:03
  Speaker 11: that they're ran by people who pretty much have autonomous control,
• 55:07
  Speaker 11: like Jericho, like MJF, like Hangman, like Moxley, like they
• 55:12
  Speaker 11: don't need titles. There aren't any women like that in
• 55:16
  Speaker 11: the women's division. It's just not a thing.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Right now, exactly exactly right. That's what Tody kannen aw
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: need to build is non title good.
• 55:27
  Speaker 11: He'll never do that.
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: I know it was short, but I personally enjoyed this
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: little feude that we just had between panel before and
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: Jamie Hater. Like I didn't mind that they capped it
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: off with a matchic dynamite. I didn't think it was
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: gonna extend all the way to full gear or anything.
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: But like before she got injured, I was enjoying what
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: they were doing with sky Blue. It seemed like they
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: were setting her up for something a little bit bigger.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's the point Rawlins is that Tony Kahan
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: probably has something in mind for sky Blue at whoever
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: he had in mind to work with sky Blue on
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: that something has been put on the back burner until
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: sky Blue came out comes back. Tony Khan does not
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: adjust to injuries and time off.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow night'll prove. Tomorrow night'll prove. Like you know, I
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: agree with you with the Hater and last day had
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: the other day great. Penelope looks so much better than
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: she used to. But here's the thing. She faces Britt
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Baker tomorrow night. If brit Baker comes back and wins
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: that match, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about, because
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: you're going to take someone who now has some momentum.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Even though she lost the hater, she put on the
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: hell of a match. And if you have her to
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: lose to brit Baker tomorrow night, you will completely destroy
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Penelope's momentum. She'll be done. Send her back, send her
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: back to dark, and she's gone for a while. Because
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: that's where Tony comes into a problem. He picks certain people,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: not necessarily ones that are good, and pushes him for
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: absolutely no reason.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Well, here's one other point that I'm gonna make. I've
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: said this before on our podcast. I am not a
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: fan of anybody one of two things. One, I'm not
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: a fan of any aw wrestler holding more to one belt.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I hate that Mercedes Monette has two belts. I hated
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Eddie Kingston had three belts. I just don't like it.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: You know, It's as simple as that, there's all these wrestlers,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: why keep him on one belt? That's one. Two. I
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: don't like leaked the title reigns. They become too predictable.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: How many times have we said on this podcast that
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: there's no way that wrestler A is going to lose
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: his first title depends in a paper for you, because he
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: because nobody loses their first title defense in the paper,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you know that if
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: somebody just won a title, they're not going to lose
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: at the paper at full gear. Moxley is not going
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: to lose at full gear.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry Danielson that he came that that can belt
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: came right off of him.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: That was a little bit of a different situation.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: I know, but it could be indicating that Tony's finally,
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: you know, stepping in the direction of taking some more liberties.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: I've always listen. I disagree with your statement about holding
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: multiple belts. One of my favorite Kenny Omega reins is
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: the belt Collector reign. But they made him look like
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: a convincing champion. They didn't just put these people together
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: because the one person was popular and slap a belt
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: on them, or an x WWE person and slap a
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: belt on him for a couple of months to try
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: to bring more eyes on the product. And I think
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: that's more the problem you. I mean, like, in the
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: real world of combat sports, outside of her scripted, what's
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: scripted or what's audited, like professional wrestling, people could drop
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: a championship on their next match. It's a thing there.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: They're always Yeah.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Well, when it comes to the women's division, Anna J
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: is wrestling Mariah may On on Collision in a no
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: DQ match, I believe it is, right, yeah, and the
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: other there you go, what's the other stipulation?
• 59:31
  Speaker 8: Rowleins, I believe it.
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: If Anna J loses, she can never challenge Mariah may
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: for the title again.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Right, But my here's my point. The last time, the
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: last match that they had, which was on Dynamite, I
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: believe last week or was it on Collision, It doesn't
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. Anna J should have won that
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: match and become the champion. Not because it's Anna Ja.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: It should have been. Look. I love the fact a
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago that Bobby Lashley made his debut
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: on Dynamite and it didn't wait until the pay per view.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: You've got to give people a reason. Why would you
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: watch as a as a casual fan, not rabbit fans
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: like we are, but as a casual fan, why would
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: you tune into AW television when you know nothing is
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: going to happen. Make something happen, yeah, make it where
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: you got where you're sitting there at home on a
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Wednesday night and you're saying, I've got the turn tune
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: into Dynamite because you never know what's gonna happen on Dynamite.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Something big could happen. Maybe it won't, but something big
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: could happen. And the only way you get that mindset
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: make it must see TV is by making it must
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: see TV. It's you want to make it something that
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: you do not want to miss. Okay, So that is
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: the end of that segment. We're gonna go on Pote
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Prix and Shane, Well, so let me explain what the
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: pope purrix is. Everybody will get a shot to just
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: talk about whatever. It could be, make a point about
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: something we've already talked about. It could be a point
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: about something that, uh, that we haven't talked about yet.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: So just a pot pourrix is everybody gets a shot
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: to express an opinion about something. Shane, I know you
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: had something, so I'm gonna go to you first.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: So Moxley's been doing his pr tour for the Grand
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Grand Reset for the storyline for aw and you know,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: he's a guy that is very diehard, old school k
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: fabe and he's just really owning the John Moxley as
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: the Great Redeemer rip hero of ae W And he
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: said to New York Post and I quote, this is
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: about the possibility of Shane McMahon joining AW. It's something
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: that's being kept under reps.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: They have been talks between all the EVPs and Tony
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: Con personally on multiple occasions, but the reporting that it's
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: been fizzled fizzled up. But what Max said was, it
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: doesn't really matter what I think. I have no control.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: We might as well talk about Santa Claus joining AAW.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: There's zero chance to me, doesn't It doesn't mean it
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: couldn't be, you know, fing cool, but like zero chance
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: to me. That's what he said now in the world,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: in his world of k fabe, maintaining the you know,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: the illusion is part of the whole entire thing. I
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: you know, I am not a fan of the idea
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: of a McMahon crossing over into the promotion that they
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: were combating after you know, his injury at Russell Mania
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: twenty three. He had things to say about the competition
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: between the two companies, But to me, it's kind of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: an interesting prospect. Plus it could be imagine this Shane
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: McMahon signs with AW for two years it will legitimately
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: put eyes from fed stands onto the product, and they're
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: going to have to intake a portion of it. You know,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: they're gonna have to be forced to see that side
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: of the spectrum. You know, whether it's a good idea
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: or not, you know, I guess only time will tell
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: if it actually materializes. I personally, I'm on the fence,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: like when I go down these rabbit holes. I see
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: it from both perspectives.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: You know, no, I get it, yes, because look the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: way I look at it. Bad press is press. I mean,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: if people hate Shane McMahon the hard the idea that
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: a McMahon is an aew they're gonna hate watch it,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: hate watching it is still watching it, you know what
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I mean? I mean, does that make sense?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: Well, it gives it gives people from the other side
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: of the spectrum the opportunity to see what aw fans
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: are have fallen in love with with the product, or
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: maybe you know, they see a match that they like
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: and it gives them a reason to keep tuning in.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: Or maybe Shane McMahon actually takes the hell off in
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: the promotion and does some good to improve the quality
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: of the product. I mean, the kid grew up in
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: professional I mean the kid, he's fifty six, but the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: dude grew up in professional wrestling, and and and you know,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: he's he's seen the best of the best and the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: worst of the worst from again, albeit you know, not
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: my flavor, you know, one of the the but the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: biggest professional wrestling promotion on Earth. I think there are
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: things that he could contribute. He could also come in talent,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: poach and ship in the bet back a bit their backyard.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: But you know, will Tony KNT take that risk? Is it?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? So? Who who else? Thanks Shane? Who
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: else has a pope pride that they want to bring up?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: I will?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: You had mentioned short title reigns in a w and
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: I got me thinking that Private Party is probably gonna
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: lose a full gear.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: You think so?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: I think so. I think they're gonna lose it to
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: the Runners.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 8: I think that's going to strike yet not yet.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: No, they have to strike while the iron's hot. You can't.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: You can't let it simmer with the outrunners. You gotta
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: give them the titles now. Give them the titles now,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: and then that's when you turn f tr heel is
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: screw them as uh right away hot shot them to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: f TR as well.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 8: It would agree with that to lose.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: I got to disagree with this whole everybody's talking about
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: turning FTR on the Outrunners. Why would you take one
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: of the biggest, best things that's working for you in
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: your tag team division that is struggling and destroy it
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: before it's even I mean, they've they've teamed up once,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: they've been back and forth on vignettes, and they look
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: at each other and they come out and celeb Why
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: would you turn and take the best thing you've got
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: going right now for the crowds and destroy it simply
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: to turn somebody heel. It makes no sense to do that.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: You can't turn FTR on the Outrunners as soon as
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: they win the titles, because you're destroying the best part
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: of your tag division and you're trying to rebuild a
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: tag division. That makes no sense.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: The bat I can give you two reasons. One was
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: just said, it's a good feud. Secondly, FTR is an
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: established tag team that is a legitimate tag team. The
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Outrunners are a silly gimmick tag team. Look at longevity.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: They may be popular right now that could fizzle in
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: two weeks.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: But then physical two weeks. That's outrunner's fault.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, you know everybody gets down on the Outrunners,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: but if you seriously what's their matches? You have to
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: think about this for a second. They're doing an old
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: time eighties gimmick and looking good in the matches. They're
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: not in there messing around doing stupid shit. They're actually
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: wrestling those matches as if they were Paul Coogan and
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Randy Savage. And you're doing it. Well, it's not like
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: they're actor just this and off you. I mean, they're
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: you know, people get mad because oh they're an old gimmick.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna pass. It's been going on for a
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: couple of months and it ain't dropped any since then.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I don't see it dropping off for a while.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: That's I know that I turned the TV. I turned
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: the channels soon as you Runners come on TV. I
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: have no interest in watching. That's stupidity on my on
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: my screen. But that's just me. Anybody else have a
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: pote prie.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: I'd like to see. I've been enjoying these John Moxley promos,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: but what I'd like to see him do is actually,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: like I know, this is give you a bit sketchy
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: and a little controversial, but I'm not having like directly
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: call out some of these people that are just sitting
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: on their hands at home, like just collecting paycheck like
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: the for example, you got the Luca Brothers, you got
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: Ricky Starks, you got just the name a few. My
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: general point, you get my ward Low you can throw
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: like Moxley's whole point is like these guys are just
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: sitting at home on their couches, eating potato chips and
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: collecting paycheck. Like you know, I'm not saying any of
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: them have paid come down in the red aisle and
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: confront Moxley directly, But like, why not have Moxley call
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: out Ricky or Warlow.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Or exactly, Yeah, you're not gonna call us some Why
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: would you call somebody out and not have them come
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: out and confront monkstly? That makes no sense, Okay, So
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: I'm just playing the general idea out.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 12: There, Like you know, I think.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: I think is not about who he who here, who's
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: sitting home? You notice he hasn't really mentioned anybody at
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: least I haven't heard him say anybody specifically. He's just
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: his whole purpose is to get the young guys to
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: act like wrestlers instead of acting like the pretty boys
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: who can just sit back and do nothing or do
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: the minimum and win or get their money. He wants
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: those guys, which is who he's basically been focusing on.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: You've got you know the tag teams that he's been
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: beating up on private party and you know everybody else
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: that's been in there, and even with like their brotherhood
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: including them. These are guys that are can considered the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: young guys who are to be the foundation of AW
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: down the road, and he's trying to get them to
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: do something and that's what his whole purpose is. And
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: he's doing that because they're the only ones coming out
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: doing anything about it. We're killing so Sun.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: Let's say Moxley does directly call out Starks and he
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: comes down the ramp to confront Moxley. Is that serving
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: the purpose of what you're talking about?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: That?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: No, because Ricky Starks has nothing to do with AW anymore.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: They don't want him on TV, or he would have
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: been on TV months ago. He's not hurt. They just
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: he's got some kind of issue he had and they
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: don't want him on there.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: You would have it, well, he good you No, I apologize.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: I have a tendency to cut people off. Ricky Starks
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: was accused privately of colluding with Cody Rhodes and that
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: he has been very vocal about his position with staying
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: with AW when his contract is up. He's in the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: same position as the Lucha Brothers. They they kind of
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: kind of know where he's heading right now, and they
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: don't they're building They're not building programs around him because
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: they don't anticipate him staying.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: If you want to get somebody for Boxley to call out,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: it would be to call out the elite or some
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: of the stars that are doing nothing to combat him.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: Instead of having private Party or the Conglomeration or you know,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: any of these other young groups that are coming out
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: and doing the beat getting beat down every week. He'd
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: have to come out and start calling those guys out.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: And that's not what the object of the game is.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: It will happen eventually, but right now he's focused on
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: trying to motivate everybody to get into wrestling mode instead
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: of getting into let me show off a little bit,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: let me collect the paycheck. I'll wrestle once every two
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: months or so, and I'll keep making money. That's what
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: he's after. He's not after calling out guys like Ricky
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Starks or Luca Bros. Who are no longer part of
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: the company, are no longer part of the future.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, did anybody else else have something to say about
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: this particular topic? If not else, the uh hope I do.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 8: I was really quick one of you know, we had
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 8: a long discussion about pretty much trashing Tony constpt looking
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 8: but what a paternity con. He had a lot of
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 8: storylines that were awesome that brought us people like Hangman,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 8: the Year Long story. He brought us people like m
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: JF and had some great storylines with him. He's not
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 8: all bad. He just he's a control freak and I
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: think he needs to learn from that and do better.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 8: But I think in the long run, he has came
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: a long way from where he started. He yes, he
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: has his flaws, but it wasn't for him, we would
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 8: not know some of these stars, and some of these
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: stars would not have came over to to a w
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 8: you know, Brian Danielon would have came over. Copland who
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 8: came over. He's a good guy, who's who's doing his
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: best who needs to relinquish some of his control problems.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, does anybody else in the why are.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: They abusing Leo Rush? He's gonna face He's gotta face
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: Swerve this week. But three weeks ago faced, three weeks
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: ago he faced showed Benjamin, and now he's gotta face swerve.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: I mean he's gotten one win in between that when
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: he faced Commander. But what the hell did lel must
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: have done something really bad.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 8: Tony clime out years ago with the uh one lady
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: calling him out, and I think that's just petty revenge
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: maybe on Tony's part.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: He's seriously getting abused.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna face three He's facing two people
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: when in a four week period that there's absolutely no
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: way he's gonna win.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: Well, they got well they have to. They're building Tony.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: I want to really quick enk I wasn't trying to
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: trash Tony Kahan's storytelling. He's fantas he's a he's had
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: he has not taken a lot of liberties with a
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: lot of things, and he's really good with long term storytelling,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: and I think he's done a lot of great things.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: But to that point, you know, he needs to keep
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: He's working several stories all at once and kind of
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: keeping them all intertwinedly the action and Drette. He's been
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: getting a lot of action on television as well. And
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: they're trying to build the top light flight. I think
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: they're building the top flights, but split up. But I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: think this is going to be too like who's going
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: to side with Mox and who's going to side with
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: the A, the Mox reset or AW. I think that's
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: the end game. I think they're just trying to keep
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: you know, these people relevant. In the meantime.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: I'll go one step further and say Shane that in
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: recent weeks AW has a murder quota that they've got
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: to maintain. Of course, on Saturday we saw Julia Hark
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: murdered by Julia Hart, which was interesting. Tomorrow, Dynamite, we're
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: going to see Leo Rush attempted murdered. It's going it's
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: part of the quarta they got to put there where
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: somebody gets.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Think about that. Almost I almost did.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: If it's not Leo Rush, it's going to be Roderic
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Strong because everybody dies.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: I almost accidentally called him Rio Rush. Thanks to you there,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: mister Kelson.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I called him. I called him Raj the other week,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: like seventeen times in the rows, not by the greatest moment.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Is anybody else does anybody else have a pote pride
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: that they want to talk about?
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 11: Do go to Kagi and Wrestled Kingdom nineteen?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, what's up?
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: What's up?
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: New Japan fans and house looks up game.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: I posted the the Kagi and Takeusta match on UH,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: on the Blue Sky and on the Red everywhere I
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: could because I'm excited about it. That's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a really cool man. So I have my I have
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  Speaker 1: a couple of small things, not really discussion topics, uh,
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  Speaker 1: but this is a couple of things I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: bring up. First is I want to say congratulations to
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  Speaker 1: Kazooka and Suzuko memory his wife for the birth of
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  Speaker 1: their new sony. Congratulations. That's right, an American son, a citizen. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: future president of the United States.
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  Speaker 11: Can you believe it?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Suzuko said that she was fortunate that there was a
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  Speaker 1: Japanese nurse that was on duty and it made her
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  Speaker 1: a lot comfortable. But she did say that the birth
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  Speaker 1: was quick, it was easy, and their second child. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and we've got uh yeah, mka please mute. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so there's another Okada in the in the family. One
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  Speaker 1: other thing is every once in a while, Shaun Ross
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  Speaker 1: sapt from Life Wasn't Life us a Q and A
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  Speaker 1: And one of the questions that he was asked in
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  Speaker 1: the latest Q and A is what is the internal
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: conversation about the ratings for W for a W And honestly,
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  Speaker 1: they seriously don't give a ship. There you go. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's from Sean Ross sapp and five Post Select. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was a pretty good quote because I believe it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not really been that great these past couple
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  Speaker 4: of months in terms of his reporting on things that are.
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  Speaker 1: He's had a couple of missteps. He's had a couple
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  Speaker 1: of missteps. Well, with that being said, I think we'll
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  Speaker 1: end the show on that note. That is aew fan
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  Speaker 1: Hub's ignition. We will be back tomorrow night right after
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  Speaker 1: Dynamite for air Dynamite review all we talk so for Kelson,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you to the rest of the aw fan Hub
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  Speaker 1: podcast team. See you tomorrow night, everybody. Good night.
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  Speaker 4: You