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Joba and the Mouth 8-13-25 · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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It is the worldwide sports radio network.
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Michael Porter Junior says gambling's impact on sports is
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only going to get worse as players like his brother Jonte
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Porter and former teammate Malik Beasley are busted for gambling
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and have to contend with death threats from gamblers.
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Has the game itself become an afterthought like Porter says,
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or will the NBA parlay the large sums of money they've gotten
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into a better regulated system which prevents some of these
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shenanigans? Shohei Otani and CAA agent Nez
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Balalo are being sued for just under a quarter of a billion
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dollars by two land developers who claim they were forced out
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of a huge land deal in Hawaii in order for Otani and his agent to
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line their pockets. Is this a frivolous lawsuit like
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Otani's representation claims? Or is he suffering from
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Mizuhara's revenge and he gambled on the wrong horse this
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time, which would lead to a whole bunch of that deferred
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Dodgers money having to leave his bank account.
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Maybe this time he will notice all that and we will go over
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some new Jabba rules, see who is in like Flynn and crack a six
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pack with Speedy and check in on the NFL preseason on another all
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new loaded up live Wednesday night episode of Jabba and the
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Man. They're going to have a ton of
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money to spend. Why not putting in one of the
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top three offensive? Players in the league we're
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going to be. Looking at Aaron Judge and
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saying that he can't. Win the big game, Michael
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Jordan. Said I.
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Played. 8. Engine games, you don't see the
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one doing that a game. Where you got to?
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Go before I told you giant feet, Saquon Barkley at this point.
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Let's do it. You're listening to Jabba and
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the Mouth. 631-672-3108 is then I'm going to call Yes.
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Jabba and the Mouth. You know who I am.
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My name is Errol Marx, my Co host Jabba Chamberlain and
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Speedy PD executive producer. You just heard of Mr. Aaron Fish
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Fishman on the board? As always, Tommy poops.
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We got the PR man himself. He's lurking somewhere
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backstage. Mr. Nathan.
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Nick Goody will be joining us a little bit later in the show.
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com. It is raining here in New York.
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There has been storms being repeated over and over and over
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again over the day that they're going to hit New York and it's
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going to hit it dead on. Well, it's right now a rain
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delay for the Mets, I'm pretty sure, and the Yankees.
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I don't even know if there's going to be a game.
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It's been crazy. And I, I don't understand the
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weather. We talk about this all the time
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on this show and I don't get the weather.
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I really don't. And obviously living here in
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here in New York, you're wondering when the winter is
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going to come, when the fall is going to come, when the leaves
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going to fall. And usually when you see the
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acorns hit the ground, it means fall is right around the corner.
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I saw acorns about a week ago. I haven't seen acorns since.
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So I I'm probably thinking that summer won't be over for at
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least another two to three weeks, which means another heat
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wave is on the move right after the snowstorm.
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We're supposed to be hitting 90 over the weekend.
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So I am not happy about it. I can't stand the weather and I
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want to run. I do not want to go to Florida.
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I do not want to go to San Diego.
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I don't care if it's Texas, it's dry.
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I hate the heat. I hate, I hate, I hate the
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summer. So yes, falls around the corner,
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winters around the corner, footballs around the corner,
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hockey, basketball is around the corner.
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For all you New Yorkers. Jabba, what's up?
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Nada, it's it's warm here too it felt like 100 and I think 103
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today so it's going to be even hotter to tomorrow and Friday.
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I think just the temperature alone supposed to be like 96.
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So yeah, we're, we're on board with you guys.
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It's it's hot and humid and sticky and then, you know, you
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just never know. It's supposed to be warm
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throughout the throughout the thing.
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I mean, it's a seems like a common denominator between here,
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here in New York that you never know what the weather's going to
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be. If it's, you don't know to pull
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out your sweatshirts or whatever, keep your shorts on.
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I mean, it's a, it's a cluster around here.
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But you know what, It's not too bad.
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We got a bunch of rain the last, so everything's kind of green
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and up. So it's, I love the fall.
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I love the changing of colors and, and all that stuff.
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And everything is pretty green right now, so we woke up today.
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So everything else is a bonus, right?
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Corn is riping over there in Nebraska for all you women out
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there, if you know what I mean. Their men are searching through
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the corn fields looking for those.
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Corns done now it's corns done if it I was trying to.
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Be funny there. But it went over.
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The cornfields are open and the women and the men are looking
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and lurking. You didn't get it.
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That's fine. Nothing about corn.
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Well, you're right. I like corn.
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I like eating it. I like butter in my corn.
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Speed it on like butter. Do you like corn on the cob or
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do you like? Corn on the cob.
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I don't like corn in a can. I'm not a big fan of that.
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You like cream corn? I like cream corn, yeah.
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I do too. I like corn, anything with corn,
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but the problem with it is there's a lot of sugar in it.
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So yeah. And right now I had a, you know,
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obviously anybody that listens to the show, my A1C is up, so I
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have to stay away from. Those like you said, it was down
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the last time you checked it. I haven't.
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I haven't checked it yet. I got to wait three months,
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three months, September, mid-september is when I'll get
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my A1C checked again, hoping that it falls from 5.8 to 5
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point O if it's at that level, I'm in good shape.
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But I've always worried about this with my sugar levels and I
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and I was speaking to my girlfriend's father before the
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show and I was telling him about my sugar levels and he told me
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the last time I was in Florida, I would buy all these different
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candies and I was in Walmart, I would buy all these different
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cakes. I bring it back to the house and
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I always leave it at his house and now he is he's type 2
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diabetic, so he would watch me eating.
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He says it's going to catch up on you.
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It's going to catch up. I was like never going to catch
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up on me. I go on my trip and I come back
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and then I get my blood taken and my my A1C is at 5.8.
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So I'm a pre diabetic person ladies and gentlemen and
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hopefully with all the different dieting that I have done over
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the last couple of weeks, 10 weeks now without a sugar drink.
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I was over there at the Bronx Zoo yesterday enjoying myself
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with my mother and my girl. I love the Bronx.
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Zoo, did you ever experience like any withdrawal like from
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like everybody shows? Me that everybody has been
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asking me that maybe for 24 to 48 hours.
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I got a couple of headaches, but not as bad as everybody thought
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it would be. Because over the years, you
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know, you have withdrawals on things that you try.
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I don't know if you do it when you're smoking, but when you
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drink, if you're a big drinker and you decide to part ways with
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drinking beer or liquor, you're going to withdraw.
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If you're a pill popper, you're going to probably withdraw.
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If you, you're, you're doing it for a significant amount of
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time. I have never been an addictive
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person. So over the years I'm all I've
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been doing is drinking sugary drinks.
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So I've never drank water consistently like I have had
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over the last couple of weeks, really almost three months.
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So it's incredible that I've stuck to the plan.
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And my plan was stick to water and stay away from every single
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sugar drink. No Pepsi, no Coke, none of those
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things, no lemonade, nothing. And I'm a Slurpee drinker, so
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you know how hard that is to go to 711 and look at the Slurpee.
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Machines slurpy little slushies. Oh man, I'm a slushy person.
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I love ices too. I have a ton of them right now
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in my freeze and I look at them every single night and.
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My like the like the sparkling ices or like which ones?
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I like the ones, the old type ones.
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You know the what do they call them?
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Speedy? What are those old ices that I
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eat all the time? What are they called?
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Ices. I guess they're ICS.
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Speed. I don't even know why he asked
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Speedy, because his head's so far up his ass.
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I can never ask this guy anything.
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He sits there, he knows what I'm talking about, but he just sits
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there and he doesn't even know what.
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He doesn't even know how to answer the question.
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I would say it's ICS. I like all different colors.
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I like the blue and I like the Gray.
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That's my favorite. So what I do is I buy like 3
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packets of it and the packages of it and it's usually got fifty
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of them. And I take all the blue and
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grape and I put it on the side and then I keep the my second
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favorite ones are orange and red and I put that on the side.
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And what I do for Speedy as I give him the apple, the green,
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the ones I don't like, he eats those.
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So. You give me the fruit punch
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ones, I like those. Sometimes.
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Sometimes if I want to be nice, but I don't like to share any of
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my Ices. But like I said, my brother also
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is a big ISIS person. He likes the the ones in the
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cup, you know the Italian ices. He likes to flip it and eat it,
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eat the bottom 1st and go right to the top because it's got all
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the juice on the bottom. So I watch him.
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What's the ones that like you can like push up from the
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bottom? What's the ones?
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That's the ones I think he's referring to, those long ones
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with the plastic. That's what, yeah, the long and
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it's like skinny and then gets bigger.
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There's all different names for him, but that's what he's
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referring to. Like.
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He'll have, I think, different parts call him different things,
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I think. Yeah, well, Speedy knows all
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about pulling things, but nevertheless, I do.
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Those are the ices I like to eat.
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I don't really like the cup ones.
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I, I'm more of the, the stick 1. So I, I, it's a shame because
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every time I look in my freezer, I want to eat them.
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I want it. And then I, I have my friends
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telling me you can have one, you can have two, you just can't
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have 10 of them. Oh, the.
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The pop ices, that's one. Yeah, that's the ones I want.
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Yeah, the ones on the last last one on the right, those are the
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ones I like right there. Yeah.
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Those are the ones, Yep. Yeah people call them like
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flavor ice or freezes or pop ices.
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Was it good? You can get like 1000 of them
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for like 6 bucks. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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I get like 50 of them for like $5 and I stack them up.
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I stack the grapes in the Blues up and then the oranges in the
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red, and then I share the rest to everybody else.
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But I have them stacked up and I can't eat them.
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Could you imagine going in the freezer every single day and
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you're looking for something to eat and all you see is sugar and
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you can't have it? I will, I will agree with with
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poops bomb pops are like, OK, so now we're on this topic real
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quick before we get into it. The ice cream man, what was your
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go to on the ice cream truck? I like vanilla and chocolate
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with strawberry topping with colored sprinkles.
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I've always the cookie sandwich every time.
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Oh, the chocolate chip cookie sandwich.
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I was always the I was always the stupid kid that would get
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the, the like the Bugs Bunny face and the eyes looked like he
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was a crackhead. One would be like up and down.
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Yeah. The cookie sandwiches.
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Yeah, it's yeah. Well, I mean, it's it's sad.
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It saddens me because I always enjoy those ices and and the ice
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cream. Yeah, thank you, fish, but never
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exciting when you get a chance to see the opportunity.
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And I, I have been eating ice cream, but I eat it.
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I eat it in like, you know, every three or four days.
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I split it up. I can't eat it all the time
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because it's so high in sugar. So I'm trying to stick to the
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pattern I have set up over the last 10 weeks.
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Speaking of patterns, we will be talking a little bit later in
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the show. A Special Olympics baseball
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coach and author just need an opportunity.
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Let me see if I can pronounce this.
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Tony, hold on, Vahovic, am I right?
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Vahovic. So we're going to have Vahovic
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on the show. So I'm interested to hear,
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obviously the autism companies that he's been working with over
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the last couple of years. And I, I know Nathan reached out
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to me. He told me, hey, you want to
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work with some autism groups. This is the guy to talk to.
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So we're going to have Tony on a little bit later in the show.
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It'll be fun. We'll talk a little sports with
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him, talk about some of the special Olympic things that he's
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been doing right, right over the last couple of years.
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So I'm interested to hear what he has to say.
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Michael Porter Junior is out and about as the NBA season is right
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around the corner. Says sports betting has hurt
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sports. Michael Porter Junior says
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sports betting is hurting sports and it is only going to get
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worse as time moves forward. On the One Night with Steinie
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podcast, the recently traded forward said that betting has
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damaged the integrity of enjoyment of the game.
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Porter went further, saying that he understood how athletes that
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grew up poor cannot resist the temptation of sports betting and
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that it's hard for players to resist helping their homies,
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helping them get a bag by multiply.
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I'm sorry. Manipulating prop bets like his
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brother Dante did, leading to a lifetime suspension from the
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NBA. Porter also commented on how
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gamblers attack players and send them death threats and that the
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focus from fans is no longer on the actual game.
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Porter believes that sports betting should be restricted to
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in person bets and only in Vegas.
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The whole sports gambling entity, it's bad and it's only
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going to get worse. Porter, who was traded in the
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offseason to the Nets from Denver, was a key member of the
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2023 NBA champion. Nuggets average 18 points and
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seven rebounds a game, shooting 50% from the field and 39.5%
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from 3. Michael Porter coming out is
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pretty much protecting his brother.
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That's what I would think on this story and, and going on the
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Steinie podcast, by the way, me and Fish were talking about this
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Offset and, and, and talking about podcast names.
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That is one of the worst podcast names I have ever heard in my
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entire life. And I, I like him.
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I like what he's doing. I love what he does with the
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NBA, but the fact that Mister Steinie, Mark Steinie is coming
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up with a name one night with Steinie it it's just a horrible,
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horrible podcast name. So we will definitely have to
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read, reach out to Mr. Steinie and try to fix that up.
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Maybe it will. We'll re reactivate some sports
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names for him and names that have not been used over the last
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couple of years and activate it back for him because he is
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absolutely out of his mind using.
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Yeah, I understand he's using his own name to promote his
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podcast, but just one night with Steinie.
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I mean, how about all nights with Steinie or hit the gutter
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with Steinie or I'm going to take a dump with Steinie.
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I like that. That's a pretty good name.
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Anyways, the interesting story here is, is Porter coming out
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about gambling and that a lot of these young guys that have no
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money or from poor families or come from poor parts of the
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world in the country are trying to make extra money.
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Obviously, when they come to the NBA as rookies, they're still
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making a significant amount of money.
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NBA players as rookies make a good a pile of money.
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If they're in the NBA and they're a part of the top 12,
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top 13 roster, they're making over $1,000,000.
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But guys like John Tay, as we all know the story when he was
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playing for Toronto was prop betting for himself and putting
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his team in situations to lose. And and that's why the NB as
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John Tay downed on him when when it came to suspending him for
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life. Now, I do also believe sports
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betting's been around for a very, very long time with the
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NBA, the NHL, the NFLMLB. It's been going on for a long,
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long time. Ask Pete Rose.
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He has not been inducted into the Hall of Fame for really his
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whole life. Now he's gone and he'll probably
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inducted in the next two or three years.
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I think obviously the way Porter is bringing this story out is
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that he believes there should be gambling.
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Gambling in sports should be allowed.
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It's just it's got to be configured better.
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And the problem right now is that there is no configuration
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on it comes to when it comes to sports betting.
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If you're going to bet on your own sport, you're going to get
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in trouble. If you're playing professional
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sports and you're betting on another sport, you're going to
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get in trouble. The only way you can bet on
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sports is if you retire or you're no longer working for
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that organization. That's when the NBA, the NHL,
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the MLB and the NFL would be OK with you betting on sports.
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And I think I obviously Michael Porter makes a lot of valuable
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points on obviously bringing out and and manipulating different
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prop betting when it comes to sports.
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Now, if you're a professional football player and you're a
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quarterback and you're betting on sports, you're you're going
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to bet that you're, if you're throwing 20 passes in a game and
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you're throwing most of them over 50%, you're probably going
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to win that prop bet because 90% of the starters in the, in the
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NFL throw 50% of their passes, make 50% of their passes.
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So that's an easy prop bet. But again, when you watch
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different sports and you're trying to configure
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understanding how this betting is starting to progress when it
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comes to all these different countries and states that are
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allowing it now, again, it's become manipulative because now
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you're not just betting on a game, you're not betting on the
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over unders. You're betting on players.
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You're betting on what they're going to score, how many
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assists, how many rebounds they're going to have in a game
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or in football, how many touchdowns they're going to have
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or how many yards they're going to have or how many catches 2
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yards they're going to have. It's different now sports and
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other things now food has become a sport.
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Everything's become a sport. We I've watched on ESPN climbing
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hills are sports now. There's so many different sports
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now they they consider sports video games is a sport now,
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which is going to be an. Olympic, they got ESPN, the Ocho
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for all those crazy sports. I know it's just everything's a
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sport now. Everything's considered a sport
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if you're moving. And now chess, which we've known
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over the years, they've considered chess as a sport.
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Cards. Playing poker is a sport and and
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evaluating and understanding how people are using prop bets in
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sports has really changed the game.
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Is it for the better or for the worse?
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Now, a lot of these athletes, as we all know, Jonte, as we all
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know Otani because we know and we're going to get into the
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whole Otani story because Otani again is a part of a scandal.
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Not surprise, ladies and gentlemen.
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The fact is when you look at sports and you're trying to
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figure out betting and understanding the the why these
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players are getting in trouble and, and other sports and
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obviously the NBA, the NBA and obviously Adam Silver figuring
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out what the LGA is, is doing right now when it comes to
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sports betting. And, and again, if it was LeBron
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James or if it was Giannis or Joel Embiid or any of the big
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stars doing it, I think it would be brushed under the rug.
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But you see, Michael Porter is going to go on a, a sports show
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and with Mark Stein and he's going to speak up on, on what's
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going on when it comes to sports betting and understand
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understanding why sports betting has become such a, such an
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illegal thing when it comes to sports.
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And, and we're trying to figure out how it's going to be more
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understanding when it comes to legality and understanding how
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they can make it legal in the future.
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I, I do believe that sports betting is going to become more
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legal as we move forward because it cannot not be you.
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You talk about Floyd Mayweather. I've talked about this many,
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many times. When he fought guys over the
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years, he propped bet he had other people propped, bet him on
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those fights. When is he going to knock him
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out? When is the rounds going to go?
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10 or 11 rounds, 12 rounds? He has done this many, many
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years. It's made millions and millions
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of dollars off of it. He's come out and said that on
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podcast for years. He's been doing it.
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Now, I don't know if Manny Pacquiao was doing it or even
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Canelo Alvarez. They don't have to.
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They're making millions and millions of dollars like Floyd.
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But when you become greedy and a lot of these young players
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become that, they're finding or trying to figure out ways where
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they can figure, configure ways they can bring in more value in
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their game, more value to their money.
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If you're making 1.5 million and you're using 500,000 of that
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money into prop betting in sports and doubling that, you're
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doubling your money every single season.
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And that's what Jontay was doing and that's what a lot of these
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guys are looking at it. Now you have these NFL football
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players, these future NFL football players.
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How about these college kids now with the NIL deals, they're
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making money, but are they making enough?
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If they look at prop betting, you know college sports, college
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sports is one of the biggest in all of sports and different
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games and and many different possibilities.
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The Mafia has been doing it forever, forever.
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The Mafia has been prop betting forever in sports.
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This isn't this isn't new. And that's how if anybody's seen
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Goodfellas, why those guys really were were convicted of
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all the stuff they were convicted for.
23:16
It was not stealing or killing or robbing people or even drugs.
23:22
It was it was really betting on sports is what throw those got
23:26
those guys thrown into jail. And again, it's becoming more
23:31
legalized around the world. What was it 10 years ago was
23:36
legalized in what, 1-2 states? Three states?
23:39
Now it's legalized in how many states?
23:41
3040 states. Eventually it's going to be in
23:44
all the states. So how are you going to keep
23:47
these players from betting on sports?
23:50
And that's what Michael Porter is coming out and pretty much
23:52
saying in his briefing on this podcast is there's no way of
23:57
stopping these guys for betting on sports.
24:00
There is no way. Now obviously you can configure
24:04
ways that it'll make sense where these guys will be less in
24:07
trouble or not be caused, won't be caused a ruckus all over the
24:12
news. But again, Ohtani over over the
24:16
last couple of years has been getting away with it.
24:19
And again, the FBI was paid off by the MLB.
24:23
Now I don't know that for sure. And that's my accusations and
24:26
that's what I think. But again, you can't keep these
24:31
players from not finding ways to make money playing professional
24:35
sports or betting on professional sports or college
24:38
sports or any sport. Now, the eating contest that
24:42
happened recently, the hot dog contest, how many people had
24:46
prop bets on that? I mean, we said it on our show
24:50
that we thought, what's his name again?
24:52
Joey Chestnut. Joey Chestnut was going to have,
24:54
I think Job AD 62 I had. 60. 6. 60. 4 whatever, whatever,
24:59
whatever their numbers were. We propp edited how many hot
25:02
dogs the guy was going to eat. OK, Do you think we're the only
25:06
ones that were doing that? Everybody was doing it because
25:10
it's now eating is a sport. Eating beans is a sport.
25:14
Taking a dump will probably be a sport eventually.
25:17
How many dumps you have every single day?
25:19
It's it's everybody is betting on things now.
25:22
You can't keep these guys or girls or anybody, kids that are
25:26
over 18 from betting on anything and now.
25:30
My my son just told me he bets and.
25:33
Everybody does. Everybody does.
25:36
Yeah. Amongst each other, yeah.
25:39
But then like, now how? I guess just the way it's been
25:44
capitalized, like it's in every corner where you can bet.
25:47
I mean, it's just not, you know, bookies anymore.
25:50
It's, you know, where it's legal.
25:51
Nebraska will probably be the one of the last places that we
25:54
actually, you know, it becomes legal for sports betting.
25:57
I mean, you can literally go 50 minutes in Iowa and it's
26:00
technically legal. But yeah, I mean, it's like you
26:03
said, if you're over 18, there's there's every which way from
26:06
Sunday that you can freaking bet on anything.
26:10
I mean Jabba now it's like Jabba you can bet in gas stations.
26:13
These kids are born from nothing.
26:15
They come from families with nothing.
26:17
All of a sudden they go play Division One basketball,
26:20
Division One football, Division One hockey or baseball and
26:23
they're getting NIL deals. They're making six or 10s of
26:27
thousands of dollars. I said 6000, but 10s of
26:29
thousands of dollars. Some of them are making millions
26:32
of dollars and they're, they're not all about buying Corvettes
26:36
because all they got to do is make one prop bet in a game.
26:39
And they could, they could bet $500,000 on that prop bet and
26:43
double their money and they'll, oh, there's, there's my Corvette
26:46
or there's my Lamborghini or there's my Hummer, you know, you
26:50
know, souped up or whatever the hell you want.
26:52
I mean, this is the way it's going to go for now and forever.
26:56
These kids are going to make more and more money.
27:00
Do you think a lot of them too, like the way they're they're
27:02
getting away with it too? Is it they're smart?
27:06
Is having somebody else do it like not share an account like
27:09
we've seen with with different guys where they actually it's
27:12
like, hey, you know what, take this bet.
27:14
It's not like he creates the account and maybe you know, he's
27:18
getting some nil money or what have you.
27:20
But where he's like, OK, I'll give you 1000 bucks bet on this
27:24
to where it doesn't come back to him legally.
27:27
His buddy could try and rat him out, but if he's giving him
27:30
cash, there's no way for him to like, well, you dimed me out,
27:34
but I was giving you cash. How are you ever going to know?
27:37
And I, I agree, there were opportunities for me in college
27:40
where it's like, Hey, can you give up three runs?
27:42
I was like, obviously I didn't do it, but it's like, what do I
27:47
throw the ball down the middle? He still could miss it.
27:48
And then you get in a bad spot with some people.
27:51
And we've, we've seen that happen too.
27:53
So it's, it's not going to stop. It's only, you know, it's like
27:57
the tip of the iceberg, right? You only see so much of it and
28:00
so it'll it'll be interesting to see if it comes out in certain
28:05
waves of either legal or illegal, like you got a book
28:09
your offshore or whatever. Remember back when I was in
28:12
college, so 20 years ago, it was like big with Texas holdem.
28:16
You, you know, get in the room and you'd play and it'd be like,
28:19
hey, you can make 650 bucks and it goes into your account and
28:22
you're like, holy cow, like I'm gambling online like this is the
28:25
coolest thing ever. Now it's like, oh, you can bet
28:27
on anything. What color is the Gatorade?
28:29
When they win, are they going to show, you know, Taylor Swift or
28:33
whoever, how many times? I mean, you literally can bet on
28:36
everything if you go through. And I'm surprised our guest
28:40
Ariel, the prop queen, hasn't made like, some crazy sheets of
28:43
like, ridiculous craziest. Thing she's ever bet on.
28:47
Right, yeah, that that would yeah, that would be interesting.
28:49
Like and, and some of the prop bets that you do throughout the
28:52
and, and I'm as guilty as the next person because I I love
28:55
betting prop bets because it makes it fun.
28:57
Like the national anthem. I do the coin toss every year,
29:01
like, you know, just ones that are just fun to do and it's just
29:05
I I think it's going to be. But you presented a great
29:08
questionnaire. I was like, how do you find that
29:12
balance of? Like, OK, you're going to do it.
29:15
We know. Where do you find the balance
29:17
of? Have you ever seen the movie
29:18
Blue Chips? Yeah.
29:20
All right, so everybody's seen the movie Blue Chips and it.
29:23
It's a great movie. Anthony Hardaway's in it.
29:25
Shaquille O'neal's in it. And this is when they were
29:28
pretty much starting to become NBA players, and they were
29:32
trying to figure out a movie that betting would really stick
29:35
out from sports. That movie really stands for
29:39
what betting is starting to transform in not not just in
29:43
professional sports, but college sports.
29:45
And it shows you that in the 90s, this has been going on for
29:48
a very, very long time. Illegally now coaches were
29:52
paying players to come to their school under the table.
29:55
Now coaches can pay them over the table and everybody knows
29:59
that they're paying these guys to come to their schools.
30:01
What is the difference between paying a player to come and play
30:05
for you or betting on a game or betting on a sport while you
30:10
know, it's the same freaking thing.
30:12
It's it's the same thing in my eyes when it comes to obviously
30:16
it's become more legalized when it comes to going after players
30:21
and NI L deals and everything like that.
30:22
Now you're talking about sports betting.
30:24
When is it? When is it going to change where
30:26
you're going to see that where where you're going to be able to
30:28
bet on sports. It doesn't matter if you're
30:30
playing or not playing it. It's blue chips.
30:33
Was it as a movie for basketball where obviously players were
30:38
coming and we're getting paid off to come to play for their
30:40
school and and picking schools? Now you're talking about movies
30:44
that we're going to see for the future where you're going to
30:46
find out that this has been going on a lot longer than you,
30:51
you have thought when it comes to college and professional
30:53
sports. I'm trying to remember a movie
30:56
that really stands out for me, where you can remember about
31:00
betting, sports betting, and I'm still trying to figure it out.
31:04
I know there was a movie with Matthew McConaughey and Al
31:07
Pacino. What was that movie?
31:08
Called Bias Buyers Club. No, it wasn't Buyers Club.
31:11
He was. So Matthew McConaughey was a
31:14
former football player. He was a quarterback.
31:16
He gets hurt and I think more for the money is something
31:20
something for the money. I I I don't remember Al Pacino
31:23
was a betting. He he ran a betting scam and he
31:27
invites. Was it true?
31:28
For the money, No, for for the love of the money.
31:31
For the love of the money. And Matthew McConaughey was
31:34
working. He was, he was doing some kind
31:36
of thing. He was driving different things
31:39
or I don't remember the exact thing.
31:40
He was riding his bike around and he was working.
31:43
And so somebody asked him, somebody didn't show up to work
31:46
and he asked him to do some prop bets for and, and I'm reading,
31:50
I'm reading what Jabba's putting over there.
31:52
But no, so he was doing prop bets And, and then obviously Al
31:57
Pacino, he ran, he ran some sports betting organization.
32:01
So what he did was he reached out to Matthew McConaughey, he
32:05
called him up and then he, he, he put something in his drawer,
32:08
had somebody put something in his drawer and told him, how
32:10
much do you want? So he actually flew to New York
32:14
and then he gave him an offer that he couldn't refuse, gave
32:17
him a, a big bungalow and, and a beautiful new car, new suit,
32:21
changed his name and he, he became something that you would
32:24
never, he would have never thought he was going to be.
32:26
How could you guys never seen that movie?
32:29
That movie was a great movie. And I'm trying to again.
32:32
I I it was a while ago that I saw the movie.
32:35
When was it out? It happened in 2000, early 2000,
32:38
mid 2000s It it. Came.
32:41
Yeah, and it's a good movie. It was a really.
32:44
Really. Oh, yeah.
32:45
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. 2 for the money.
32:46
Tommy scoops was right 2005 the other gambling movie.
32:50
I think you were referencing the rounders.
32:53
There's the color of money. I'm saying like sports gambling
32:56
obviously rounders poker movie is like unmatched in my opinion.
32:59
No, I'm just thinking of sports gambling movies that yeah, 2 for
33:03
the money was the one that sucked, and that's a true story.
33:05
Yeah, that was when McConaughey was trying like he ended up like
33:08
getting his chick cuz the chick was older and he was like
33:11
working under Pacino. That Sandler movie was great
33:14
too. The Uncut Gems, where he's the
33:17
degenerate gambler. Yeah, he was Kevin Garnett.
33:19
Yeah. But the the movie that really is
33:22
2 for the money was the movie that really stood out to me
33:24
because obviously nothing. I have now, now that I've looked
33:27
it up, I have. That was a really good movie.
33:29
Yeah, Al Pacino was great in the movie and obviously it was there
33:34
were so many ups and downs in the movie and then he he was
33:36
this like he hit on every single one of his bets.
33:39
He was like at 78% and all of a sudden he he asked Pacino for
33:43
more money and then everything started falling off for him.
33:46
He started losing and then they were working with mafia guys and
33:50
then the mafia was after him. And then obviously eventually he
33:54
had to get away from it. He made one prop bet and thank
33:57
God he won. And, and then he ran away, went
33:59
back home and he became a football coach.
34:01
But why am I bringing it up? Because this has been going on
34:04
for a very, very long time. Prop betting and all that other
34:06
stuff has been going on a very, very long time.
34:08
But now that has become legalized all over the country.
34:12
You really can't stop it anymore.
34:13
Michael Porter saying that on the on the Steinie podcast, he's
34:17
saying that there's no way of stopping this.
34:19
This is going to continuously keep getting worse.
34:22
Players and young kids are going to do this because they come
34:25
from nothing. And that's just the way it
34:27
works. You can argue this all you want,
34:31
but it's only going to get worse.
34:33
Now, what is the NBA going to do?
34:34
Are they going to find these guys or suspend these guys for
34:37
life forever? If it wasn't John Day, it was
34:39
LeBron James or Yanis or any one of those guys.
34:42
They get suspended for 50 games and they come back.
34:45
John Days are nobody. Nobody cares.
34:47
The NBA wants to make a statement.
34:48
Adam Silva wants to make a, you know, make a What do they call
34:52
that they make use? Them as an example.
34:54
An example out of them. So they said, you know what
34:56
we're going to do? We're going to do this to him.
34:58
We're going to suspend him for life.
35:00
And now it's going to stop NBA players from doing this.
35:03
Not necessarily because NBA players are just going to find
35:06
other ways to scheme it, like Jabba was saying.
35:09
They're going to use their friends, they're going to use
35:11
their cousins, their aunts, their uncles to make those bets.
35:14
Athletes in other sports. And they're still going to get
35:17
those bets in and they're still going to get away with it.
35:20
And this is, again, Floyd Mayweather's been doing it
35:23
forever. He's admitted it.
35:25
He's admitted it. So.
35:28
So if he's saying that he's been doing it, by the way, on the
35:31
Conor McGregor fight, he put $3,000,000 on himself that he
35:36
was going to knock Connor out in the 10th or 11th round, which he
35:39
did by the way, he TKO Connor in a 10th or 11th round because he
35:43
broke his orbited bone, his eye socket.
35:46
And that's why Connor hasn't really fought really since that
35:49
fight. And it's a funny story is is he
35:53
put $3,000,000 down. He admitted to it and quadrupled
35:55
his money, quadrupled. Just think, you put $3,000,000
35:59
down. What are you going to get on
36:00
that bet? You're betting 11th round
36:02
knockout, knockdown or TKO, you're probably going to bring
36:05
in about 20, five, $30 million. And by the way, in that fight he
36:10
wore shorts that paid him $50 million, I think.
36:13
I think that was the number 50 to $30 million he made just
36:17
wearing some organization shorts for that fight.
36:20
But what I'm saying is when you're making that kind of money
36:22
or you're bringing in that kind of money, no matter what
36:25
professional sport or college sport you're making, and you've
36:27
never seen that money, you want to double it.
36:29
You want to find ways that you can help your families out or
36:31
get your friends out. And you're going to go and
36:34
you're going to put that money where it's going to make you
36:36
more money or lose all your money.
36:39
And as we all know, Antoine Walker, another guy that has
36:42
made millions and millions of dollars and now is one of the
36:45
brokest and ex NBA players we've ever Vince.
36:48
Vin Baker. Remember, Vin Baker played from
36:51
Milwaukee, played for the Knicks five time All Star.
36:55
I saw him. I I actually saw him at
36:57
Starbucks in Connecticut. He was the manager in Starbucks.
37:00
Mikey C will tell you that story.
37:01
I knew it was Vin Baker. Mike was like, that's no way, no
37:04
way in hell. That's Vin Baker.
37:06
And I said, that's Vin Baker. And I pulled him outside and I
37:09
said, are you Vin Baker? And he smiled at me and told me,
37:11
yeah. And I have a picture of it, so
37:13
it's not a lie. And Vin Baker went broke because
37:16
of drinking and because of gambling.
37:19
So again. Would you say though, in that
37:22
sport, would you would, I'm just spitballing here.
37:26
If OK, say you went as commissioner or you create a
37:31
committee or what have you, right, would you be like, OK,
37:33
you can sports bet, just not on your own sport.
37:38
Like do you think that would ever get legs or they have to?
37:41
Regular, that kind of thing. Because you could still have
37:43
connections in other sports, too.
37:45
Like if you're a football player that grew up with a guy that's
37:48
also in MLB and he's a pitcher and you're saying, OK, should.
37:51
I bet use use Stafford and Kershaw for that.
37:53
Example, so let's say so Stafford is the example like
37:56
let's say Clayton Kershaw, how many outs you're going to get in
37:58
a game? What's your out prop?
38:00
You could still bet the under if Clayton says, oh, Dave said I'm
38:03
only going to be an opener for today, I'm only going to be that
38:05
like there's still information that can be it.
38:06
So you probably have to regulate that a little differently in
38:09
order to do that, obviously in your own sports even tighter
38:11
because you're tight with a lot. Of see, this is what we're
38:13
talking about right now. This is what we're talking
38:15
about. There's nothing to talk about
38:17
when it comes to sports. So we're talking about Mark
38:20
Steinie. It's not Mark Steiner.
38:23
I was wrong. It's just some, I guess he's an
38:26
Instagram influencer of some sort, some guy who looks like
38:29
Speedy's age or younger to that's has a podcast.
38:32
Whatever his part is that we're talking about this guy one night
38:36
with Steinies podcast and we're talking and we're talking about
38:40
Michael Porter Junior talking about sports betting because
38:43
there's nothing going on in sports right now and that's just
38:46
the way it is. Look, they don't have to
38:48
regulate though, like Speedy's saying Speedy, they don't have
38:50
to do that. The casinos are not going to
38:52
allow this to happen. We've already seen it.
38:55
Class A threw 6 pitches in the dirt.
38:58
Those guys weren't paid off on those prop bets.
39:01
No, that's in a way where those guys paid off by the casinos.
39:05
They're not going to allow this to happen.
39:07
They're going to alert everybody immediately because they're not
39:10
going to take a loss. So it's almost a self policing
39:13
system against it. So you're going to have, you're
39:15
going to see people just get good at it, right?
39:18
You're not going to dirt 6 pitches in a row.
39:20
You're going to find a bet that's easy to manipulate that
39:24
won't affect the outcome of the game other than, you know, I
39:28
don't know, you could say like you have an over under, you
39:31
know, 2 1/2 walks in the game as a pitcher, starting pitcher,
39:36
very easy to walk a guy. You know it's going to be stuff
39:40
like that. I'm, I'm a little thrown off
39:41
with this because again, I think that obviously becoming, you
39:46
know, sports betting becoming such a popular thing around the
39:50
world because it's become legalized that you, if you're a
39:54
professional athlete, you should be allowed to bet on sports,
39:57
maybe not your own game. If you want to bet on anything
39:59
else besides your own game, you should be allowed to if you know
40:03
about the NBA. Now I I understand the referees
40:06
know more about those games and more of the inside stuff.
40:09
In specific games, and some of these players are very connected
40:12
with these referees, friends with these referees.
40:15
I understand that, but you can't hide this.
40:18
You can't control sports betting.
40:21
It's just it. To me, the value of it and the
40:24
money that it's bringing in is not only helping professional
40:28
sports grow, it's giving owners and players more value to their
40:34
game. So I under that's what Michael
40:37
Porter is pretty much saying. You can't keep the players from
40:40
doing it. They come from nothing.
40:42
They're they've been doing it forever.
40:44
I mean, high school, you're playing these young kids were
40:46
playing fantasy sports. Is that not gambling?
40:50
Honestly, that's gambling. It's just another way of calling
40:53
it gambling. It's been legalized.
40:55
Fantasy sports has been going on forever since I was in high
40:59
school. It started with the NFL and the
41:01
Major League has been around since really the the 90s, we had
41:05
fantasy baseball going on. You're going to tell me that's
41:09
not sports betting? Of course it's sports betting.
41:12
If you're putting money down on a game that you're picking
41:17
players to to play in and they're hitting home runs or
41:20
they're getting, they're walking 5-6 times, you're making money
41:25
off of it. That's betting.
41:26
That's sports betting. So how is that that's legalized.
41:30
But you betting on your own sport, not your game, your own
41:33
game, but your own sport and a particular game of the week.
41:38
It's it's not legalized. It's not it's not to me valued
41:41
by the NBA to allow it to have to allow it to be.
41:46
Oh, sure, I guess I, well, I'm. Just there is a solution, Errol
41:50
and it's been put out there and it would hurt the business of a
41:53
great guest. We had Ariel Epstein.
41:55
It's get rid of the prop bets. The prop bets are not how
41:58
they're manipulating it. Well, they can, they weren't,
42:01
they haven't been around forever.
42:03
They really haven't. So I I think that they're First
42:06
off, the live prop bets that can go.
42:09
They could definitely stop the live prop bets.
42:13
But as far as some of these prop bets where it's like the 11th
42:17
man on the roster type of things with like the Jonte Porter or
42:21
guy who just made in the rotation you're betting on.
42:24
If he's going to get a combination of 9 1/2 points,
42:27
blocks and rebounds in a game. And the guys like, Oh yeah, bet
42:31
the under, I'm going to pretend I'm hurt in the third minute of
42:34
the game, which is what he did at that's that's how they made
42:37
money. But the casino soft right
42:39
through it. You can't.
42:40
You're not going to be able to get away with this stuff.
42:42
You're going to tell me to bet? You're going to tell me the
42:44
casinos don't know what's going to happen.
42:45
How do they know? How are they 65% or 66% of the
42:50
time, right? Of course they know what's going
42:52
on. They have an inside.
42:53
Source if something is fishy right because they know they're
42:57
supposed to be that percent right they look into it
43:00
immediately. Everyone's who works there's job
43:03
depends on it that they have to find out why there's this
43:06
abnormality. And sometimes it's huge fraud as
43:10
we're finding out. It's pretty crazy.
43:12
I, I guess, do you think it's just going to get worse like
43:15
Porter says? Because I.
43:17
Think it's already more often, I think it's already worse.
43:20
And I think it's only going to get worse because these young
43:23
kids. What happened?
43:25
Worse. Worse how?
43:26
Like in in what? Context college sports.
43:28
Everybody keeps talking about professional sports.
43:30
I think college sports is what we're going to be watching
43:33
because these kids they're 18 years old, they don't know what
43:36
to do with their money. They're getting now these NIL
43:39
deals, they're getting significant amount of money
43:41
through sponsorships and advertisers and they don't know
43:44
what to do with it. So what are they going to do
43:46
with it? They could go out drinking, they
43:47
could buy their buddies cars No, they want to double that money.
43:51
They want to make more money on it.
43:52
So what are they going to do? They're going to look at the
43:54
college game or they're going to look at their own game and say,
43:56
hey, listen, I can make a prop bet on myself.
43:58
If I if I'm 50% of my throwing each game and I could bet 50% of
44:05
the time that I'm going to make most of my throws, I'm going to
44:08
win myself a significant amount of money.
44:11
You can't stop this. Maybe Fish is right.
44:13
Maybe stopping prop bets would work.
44:15
I just don't know if they're going to allow it because it's
44:17
bringing them in so much money. Now I'm making, all right, let's
44:22
say it's an NBA player and he's doing it.
44:24
That's one bet to how many bets? 200,000 bets.
44:29
So obviously the NCAA has a guy or a kid making one prop bet and
44:35
he brings in $200,000 off of his $25,000 and then they're making.
44:43
Vegas is making out of 200 bets, millions and millions of
44:47
dollars. Why are they crying about the
44:49
$200,000 that they lost? That's what I'm saying.
44:53
I mean, you can't have one and not the other.
44:56
So I I understand why Vegas is upset about it.
45:00
I understand why betting has been such a problem when it
45:05
comes to obviously what's going on not only in the NBA, the NFL,
45:09
the NCAA and the NHL and all professional sports, even
45:13
tennis. I mean the prop bats with tennis
45:16
guys hitting over 100 on their serve, betting on, hitting on.
45:20
You could bet on anything now, anything.
45:23
That's the crazy thing and that's why I think Michael
45:27
Porter saying it's going to get worse.
45:28
So why even argue it? Find a way where you can make it
45:32
fair for the athletes or the betting man to go out there and
45:37
place a prop bet or a bet on a specific sports game.
45:42
That's my opinion on it. I don't think any argument to
45:45
that, and that's why we're trying to find stories to talk
45:47
about. It's a big story because Michael
45:49
Porter came out to protect his brother.
45:51
Dante is going to never play NBA basketball again.
45:55
He's going to have to go overseas and overseas to make
45:57
money. If Japan or or any one of these
46:02
Louis, what is it Lithuania or Spain or Portugal allows him to
46:09
play I. Heard, I heard Croatia is a very
46:10
big sports betting country, so maybe there's something like
46:13
that or anything in that region that allows it has more.
46:15
Lenient And here's another thing, in Europe, sports betting
46:18
is big when it comes to Europe, European football, I'm telling
46:23
you right now, there's so much money when it comes to soccer,
46:27
as we call soccer, they call European football.
46:30
It is huge over there in England.
46:32
It's always been Australia and all the big countries out there
46:36
because soccer over there is king.
46:39
It's the biggest sport in the world.
46:41
You don't think that overseas they're not bringing in a
46:44
significant amount of money or these news professional soccer
46:48
players aren't betting on themselves or their their
46:50
friends playing on those specific game in those specific
46:52
games because you're Ronaldo's telling me they're going to.
46:56
He scored and he's averaging about a goal and a half against
46:59
that goalie. He's going to put in two goals
47:01
in that game and he's not putting a prop bet on it.
47:04
Come on, guys, it's been going on a long time.
47:07
Speaking of a long time, Cheryl Otani again is in the tabloids,
47:12
ladies and gentlemen, and uh oh, Otani is in big trouble and I
47:17
think the MLB needs to look into this story.
47:20
His agent being sued in a land development deal.
47:23
Shea Otani and his agent are being sued by two real estate
47:27
developers in Hawaii claiming they got them fired from a $240
47:34
million luxury housing project. Otani and his agent, Nez Baleo
47:41
of CAA are being accused of a calculated and unlawful scheme
47:47
which interfered with the development of the property
47:51
which Ohtani was supposed to be a public sponsor of on top of
47:57
owning $17 million of the property in the complex.
48:01
The plaintiff or plaintiffs claim Belalo used Otani's
48:08
leverage as a celebrity to eliminate the two developers
48:12
roles in the project. The plaintiffs lawyer Josh
48:17
Schiller, claims that Otani and his representation refused to
48:22
negotiate a resolution. Schiller accused Belalo of doing
48:27
business on Otani's behalf and illegally forcing the removal of
48:32
the plaintiffs to fatten his own pockets and do not know if Otani
48:39
was aware of the dealing of his agent but said the agent was
48:44
doing business on his behalf. He's responsible for the agents.
48:48
Ultimately. Otani signed a 10 year, $700
48:51
million deal with the Dodgers in 2023 and won his third MVP and
48:57
was a World Series champion last year.
49:00
There's a lot of legs to this story.
49:01
And again, it's a story that eventually will be brushed under
49:06
the rug. We know it's going to be brushed
49:08
under the rug because we all know that betting scandal was
49:11
brushed under the rug. Two guys are in jail, sitting in
49:17
jail for Shayo Otani. Two of them.
49:21
And again, I'm not going to go back into this sports betting
49:26
scheme or gambling situation because let's just brush that
49:30
under the rug and get to this story.
49:32
Because this story seems to be even worse when Sheila Tani uses
49:40
his superstardom to negotiate a deal worth about 250 or $240
49:47
million of luxury housing and then obviously not doing the
49:56
right thing behind it. Now, everybody's saying that
49:59
Sheila Tani might not have known that Belalo was putting money
50:04
into his pockets and and obviously doing things
50:07
schemefully to hurt these two plaintiffs that were involved
50:12
with. And I'm not, I'm not going to
50:14
cry about these two guys because they're probably multi
50:17
millionaires, billionaires. So I'm not going to cry for them
50:20
or cry me a river for them that they lost $240 million or
50:24
whatever, how much money they're going to lose out of this deal.
50:28
But the fact that Otani's involved in a scheme like this
50:31
again tells me that the MLB needs to dig a little deeper in
50:35
Otani's behalf. And why I say Otani's behalf
50:39
because Otani seems to be the whipping board for us on this
50:45
show. We love to whip Shaya Otani and
50:48
everybody likes to protect Shaya Otani offset of this show except
50:53
Jabba. Jabba has protected Shaya Otani
50:56
since the beginning. Jabba's always stuck behind it.
50:59
The sports betting situation with him.
51:01
And even if it to be true, we can't.
51:04
There's no proof. So Jabba, until proven guilty,
51:07
Jabba doesn't think that Shaya Otani had anything to do with
51:11
it. This story you can't tell me
51:14
that Shay Otani didn't know about the $240 million that he
51:18
invested into with this housing project.
51:20
I don't know if you you haven't read the report because it went
51:24
and this is via si.com and it was actually Nez is the one that
51:31
used his name and if you're as an agent, he can still be held
51:35
liable. But he had nothing to do with
51:37
it. It was his name was on the
51:39
behalf because he was listed as the first.
51:42
Holder so. They've already, they've already
51:44
reviewed. I'm just, I'm just saying what I
51:46
read. All right?
51:46
There's nothing that's going to happen to the dude.
51:48
You already know that. No, there's nothing going to
51:50
happen because he's the face of baseball.
51:52
Baseball's protecting him. He's going to win the home run.
51:55
He's going to have the most home runs this year.
51:57
He's probably going to get he's going to get another MVP this
52:00
year in the National League because he's Shay Otani and
52:02
baseball likes to protect this guy.
52:04
And you're innocent till proven guilty.
52:06
Well, in in America you are, In other countries you're probably
52:09
going to get thrown into jail as we all.
52:10
Know Hawaii still? Yeah, well, I, Hawaii is still
52:16
the United States, so he's going to get away with it.
52:18
But I, I don't know Naz. I don't know this guy
52:21
specifically. I know obviously he's an agent
52:24
at CAA and, and this is a guy that is finding ways to make
52:28
extra money on the side. All these agents, all these
52:31
lawyers are trying to find ways to make extra money on the side.
52:34
But when you hear Otani's name being brought in this
52:37
conversation, it would, if you're an Otani fan, you'd have
52:40
to be worried that Otani's name is going to be brought in to a
52:44
lot of these conversations for the very near future.
52:47
Ohtani is making hundreds of millions of dollars.
52:50
He is he's, and I know fish is going to come into this and he's
52:53
going to bring up the chair. Otani's making $100 million a
52:56
year in endorsements. The closest, the next two guys
53:00
right under him are making $7,000,000 a year in
53:02
endorsements and Aaron Judge and Juan Soto.
53:06
So think about it this way. There's got to be something
53:08
fishy going on if Juan Soto and Aaron Judge, 2 superstars, 2 big
53:13
names in the major leagues, are only bringing in $7,000,000 a
53:17
year in endorsements and this man is bringing in $100 million
53:21
a year in endorsements. This has to be.
53:23
But they're not global. Otani is global, Aaron.
53:26
Judge isn't global. No.
53:29
Aaron Judge isn't. He's telling me Judge is is more
53:33
global than Otani. I didn't say that you're out of
53:35
your gore. First of all, Otani's global in
53:38
Japan. Otani's global everywhere.
53:41
Aaron Judge is only global because he's a Yankee.
53:43
If he was, if he was a Milwaukee Brewer, he's not global, Aaron,
53:47
let's be honest. All right, that's fine.
53:48
But Aaron Judge is the best player in baseball.
53:50
He's been the best player in baseball for the last four.
53:52
Years, but he's not even close to being as global as Otani is.
53:56
Who's the most popular athlete right now in professional
53:59
baseball right now? Are we talking globally?
54:01
No, in the United States. I.
54:04
Mean I'm. Still gonna It's.
54:05
Probably Aaron Judge. I I would beg to differ.
54:10
It's probably Aaron Judge. I know I don't know what the
54:13
numbers are, but if if we have our producers actually looking
54:16
it up at we're talking about it, that would be pretty simple to
54:20
just Google as we always do, go to Google and find out who.
54:25
OK, so who's the top selling jersey Otani?
54:28
Yeah, worldwide. In the United States.
54:30
No, in the US is. Is is the top selling jersey in
54:34
the US? What is the number?
54:35
In the US, Japan and worldwide. We have three guys on a
54:39
computer. Nobody has an answer here.
54:41
I'm. Looking at it right now.
54:43
Who is the most popular player right now in the Just because
54:46
you're a jersey seller doesn't make you the most popular player
54:49
in in the United States. It's just a jersey.
54:51
So how so? So how did So what is your
54:53
metric of saying they're the most popular?
54:55
I, I don't know, I'm just asking, obviously there's.
54:58
Jersey sales the most popular because they're buying the
55:01
jersey. Not really because just because
55:04
I believe LeBron James who had the most jersey sales in
55:08
professional sports this past year.
55:11
Do I have to look this up because my guys can't do it?
55:13
Google most sold jerseys in professional.
55:19
You said it a million times to you, it's Otani by far over
55:22
judge in jerseys. I'm talking about an all
55:25
professional sports. You guys are not.
55:26
Helping some soccer player who cares?
55:28
What do you mean who cares? Soccer?
55:31
Who cares? I'm bringing up.
55:32
You're telling me that's the only thing you're going to say.
55:35
Who cares? That's how they they always buy
55:37
the soccer jerseys because every country in the world watches
55:42
soccer because that's all they they look.
55:44
It's a you. All you need is a ball and a
55:47
couple of like marks. Peter, you're still looking
55:49
right there. And you can.
55:50
I'm only seeing Otani too. I don't see any others that are
55:53
objective. Yeah.
55:54
Dude, Otani's more popular because he's like he's, he's
55:59
international, he's global. MLB Shea Otani, NBA Luka Dodgek,
56:03
NFL Saquon Barkley, MLS Leona Messi, NHL Alexander Ovechkin.
56:09
That's all I needed. You guys couldn't do that for
56:11
me. Thank you very much.
56:13
That's those are those are the top selling jerseys in each and
56:18
every sport. Thank you to my producers for
56:21
not getting me those numbers. Oh, I'm sorry, I was doing the
56:23
more important actual production.
56:26
I'm talking about the other guys that are sitting right beside me
56:28
and can't get me numbers. And here it is a jerseys top
56:33
selling jerseys all time Michael Jordan, Leona, Messi, Cristiano
56:38
Ronaldo, LeBron James, Tom Brady, Derek Jeter, Kobe Bryant,
56:43
Neymar, Sidney Crosby if. You go by like Instagram and.
56:49
Judge, that's what you're talking about.
56:50
I'm just, I'm looking, I'm looking at jersey sales all
56:54
time. I, I just want numbers.
56:56
You guys are sitting here going back and forth.
56:57
Who cares? Shay Otani is making money in
57:00
every kind of way. You're the guy that never wants
57:02
numbers. No, I'm not.
57:04
But I, I, if I ask you on numbers, well, I'm asking you
57:07
for numbers and none of you guys could give me numbers.
57:10
That's. We've got numbers up in the.
57:11
Now you do. We took guys 9 point. 2 million
57:15
followers on Instagram. Judge has 1.9.
57:18
That means that he's 4 1/2 times more popular than Judge.
57:23
That's why I was wondering what's what's your metric was of
57:26
like most. There's no, like, popularity,
57:29
Yeah. There's no standings dude.
57:31
It's not like the stent meter on a golf course, like, hey, it's
57:34
rolling out of 13. All right, all right here.
57:36
Best selling jerseys of 2025 One Leona Messi #2 Cristiano Ronaldo
57:45
#3 Steph Curry #4 Giannis Obviously Giannis.
57:50
OK, what's your point? Here though, I'm trying to
57:52
figure out what he's. Trying to say baseball's not
57:55
that popular. That's what I'm saying.
57:56
No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
57:58
Well, yeah, soccer always. That's what I'm saying.
58:00
Tony is I'll turn up there with those guys.
58:05
You don't and baseball jerseys don't sell the same as like some
58:08
of these other. Jerseys.
58:09
They're way more expensive too. Yeah, you have to remember that.
58:12
If you get the like the real 1. The fact here is Otani's making
58:17
money hand over fist, and now he has his hands dipped into real
58:20
estate. And now again he's being accused
58:23
of being a part of some scheme where everybody is saying, well,
58:27
he's not a part of it, Or they're trying to find ways
58:30
where they're saying, well, his name is on the contract, but he
58:34
probably has nothing to do with it.
58:35
Probably isn't. Does not mean that he has
58:38
nothing to do with that situation.
58:41
You're going to tell me that Shay Otani didn't know that
58:43
there was 20 something, $1,000,000 missing out of his
58:45
account when it came to sports gambling?
58:47
You're going to tell me that Shay Otani didn't know about
58:49
$240 million of his own money, right?
58:52
Was it his own money or something?
58:54
So it's. So here's the thing.
58:55
They're suing him for 240 million.
58:57
What was the money that he invested in HE?
59:00
He so we don't know the total number that he invested.
59:03
He's supposed to be the face. So they had him buy the first
59:07
housing house in this development listed at 17 and
59:11
change $1,000,000 that also there was a deal with these two
59:16
guys that are suing that they would use him to promote the
59:20
development in Hawaii. No, I got to attract luxury
59:22
clientele, right? I got so.
59:24
So as far as what the value is, I think he's being sued for how
59:29
much those two guys thought they were going to make off of this
59:32
deal. And that his his agent who's a
59:35
part of the deal it was pocketing obviously or trying to
59:39
find. Ways to I think that's the story
59:41
right push them out high profile agent at CAA Belalo and he is
59:46
doing some shady like this is some of the stuff that but why
59:50
is Otani putting himself in the wire do.
59:52
Why is Otani putting himself around these people?
59:55
And if he, if that that's my question, why is Otani putting
59:59
himself around all these people? Obviously his interpreter, I
1:00:03
know it was his friend, but his interpreter went to jail and
1:00:06
he's going to come out and he's probably going to be very rich
1:00:08
because Otani's going to take care of him and his family.
1:00:11
And then this, this story with Nez Belalo, he's a he's another
1:00:16
guy that is connected to Shay Otani and he's using Shay
1:00:20
Otani's name to get rich. You realize his interpreters in
1:00:25
federal, like that's a Country Club.
1:00:28
Like you just have a fence around you, but you get a dude
1:00:30
like if you get committed to crime, my dad worked in a prison
1:00:34
for 30 years. So you don't want to be state,
1:00:36
you want to be federally because it's literally a Country Club.
1:00:39
You get treated, you get free time, you get everything.
1:00:42
Like it's you're not doing time. You just happen to stay in the
1:00:45
same spot. But you have your, I mean, you
1:00:47
can do whatever you want. You watch whatever you want.
1:00:49
You have computer. Like it's not like you're in
1:00:52
prison. Like federal time is cake.
1:00:55
Yeah, he's probably taking prop bets over there in. 100%.
1:00:59
And Carl, Carl, I know Carl likes to turn into Jeff over
1:01:03
here and says that I'm getting mad because I'm wrong.
1:01:05
No, what I was trying to get at is that baseball is not as big
1:01:09
as all the other sports. That was my argument.
1:01:12
Carl, why don't you shove it up your ass?
1:01:14
Because you don't know what the hell you're talking about half
1:01:16
the time. And if you have nothing good to
1:01:17
say, you could shove it up your ass again.
1:01:19
So my whole point here is that, again, Shay Otani is involved
1:01:24
with the scheme that he now everybody is claiming or
1:01:28
somebody or people are claiming while he knew nothing about, but
1:01:32
his name was stamped to it. So it's going to be brushed on
1:01:35
the rug because of it. And if the story does grow legs,
1:01:40
I'm sure there's going to be some kind of proof that Sheryl
1:01:43
Atani knew about this story and was trying to scheme away to
1:01:47
make more money off this deal. Because remember, these guys
1:01:51
that are involved with this deal are multimillionaires there
1:01:54
probably are there. I mean, if they're putting
1:01:56
whoever put $240 million in, if it's not Cheryl Donny, they're
1:02:00
putting their own, they're multi billionaires if they're throwing
1:02:03
that kind of money into, you know, a luxury housing project.
1:02:07
So again, I, I realized that baseball is not doing the right
1:02:13
thing with this guy. They're letting this guy get
1:02:15
away because of his name, because of who he is nationally,
1:02:19
and because he's the face or one of the faces a professional
1:02:22
baseball. But again, when is it going to
1:02:25
be enough? When is baseball going to drop
1:02:28
the hammer on this guy? When are they going to
1:02:30
investigate this guy and take this seriously?
1:02:34
Because they're not. This guy has been a part of two
1:02:38
schemes, 2 of the biggest ones we've heard in the last 10 years
1:02:43
of professional baseball. You remember the other one, the
1:02:45
steroids. The steroids was the last big
1:02:47
scheme. Now you're talking about sports
1:02:50
better. We we're just, we're talking.
1:02:51
About unless you. Unless you count the Spider Tack
1:02:55
you. Know.
1:02:55
No, that's not. There wasn't really money.
1:02:58
There wasn't really money made off that.
1:03:01
I mean, that Spider Tack has been going on for years.
1:03:04
Just like we we talk about all these sports that people were
1:03:06
cheating and finding a ways to get over on certain sports.
1:03:10
I mean, in football with the deflate gate, I mean, you think
1:03:13
Tom Brady was the only guy doing that?
1:03:15
Come on, Drew Brees was probably doing that.
1:03:18
Peyton Manning was probably doing it.
1:03:20
Eli made all of them were doing it.
1:03:22
So it was just because obviously in the NFL they couldn't, they
1:03:27
couldn't get them for Spygate, So they had to do something.
1:03:32
And if they didn't do anything, the owners were going to drop
1:03:34
the hammer on Rodger Goodell because Rodger Goodell and
1:03:37
Robert Kraft were so very close. They were hanging out and
1:03:40
fishing together. So and that's how they turned
1:03:43
they they turned for best friends to enemies after
1:03:45
Deflategate. I just think that Major League
1:03:48
Baseball should investigate this a little bit deeper, take this
1:03:51
more seriously. I you cannot just lay this, lay
1:03:55
this under, you know, under the rug or brush it under the rug or
1:03:59
throw it out and make it seem like it's nothing, $240 million
1:04:03
isn't nothing to think about. That's a lot of money.
1:04:06
And if he's putting, OK, and if you can't, you can't do anything
1:04:10
to him. Maybe sit down with Shay Otani
1:04:13
and have a conversation with him and tell him why are you putting
1:04:16
yourself around these idiots? You're putting yourself around
1:04:19
these idiots that are getting you in trouble, that are putting
1:04:22
you in the tabloids, putting you in, you know, stories where it's
1:04:26
just going to get worse for you. And eventually the stories are
1:04:30
going to get worse and it's eventually going to catch up to
1:04:33
them. Eventually he could get caught
1:04:35
too and if there's enough connections to these because
1:04:38
these are two different, very different worlds, even though
1:04:40
they're both money, one's sports betting, this one's real estate,
1:04:43
there could be a lot of people that try to take advantage of it
1:04:46
like that too. Whether he how evolved he is or
1:04:49
not, it is the second time around.
1:04:51
So there's going to be a chain reaction to this kind of thing
1:04:54
where if it does add up over time, whether it's in Japan,
1:04:57
whether it's in LA or other, in this case in Hawaii, there's
1:05:00
going to be another case like that.
1:05:01
And now this is a case of obviously him wanting.
1:05:03
He'll never get get caught in Japan.
1:05:05
No, probably not. He'll never get caught in Japan,
1:05:07
but the guy's a God. They're going to build statues.
1:05:10
They're going to, he's going to be the king of Japan by the time
1:05:13
he's done with professional baseball.
1:05:15
He'll buy Japan with the money that this guy's making right now
1:05:18
and endorsements and the deferred money that the Dodgers
1:05:22
owe him. The guy's going to buy Japan by
1:05:24
the time he's done with professional baseball.
1:05:27
I mean that that's there's no argument to that.
1:05:29
I mean, how much money is this guy bringing in yearly?
1:05:33
How much years left does he have in baseball?
1:05:35
How old is he? 3031?
1:05:37
He just signed what, a 12 year deal with the Dodgers?
1:05:40
So. I think it's now Enter.
1:05:42
Enter Year 2 and he has nine more years.
1:05:44
Left. By the time he's done, he'll be
1:05:46
4041 years old. How much money do you think this
1:05:49
man is going to have? You're talking about 3-4, maybe
1:05:52
$5 billion that he's made. He's going to be able to buy his
1:05:56
own professional baseball team. He'll buy his own God damn
1:05:59
island. You know, right next to Leonardo
1:06:02
DiCaprio and Robert De Niro. How about that?
1:06:04
I mean, the guy's making so much money now and.
1:06:07
That's why he has to be careful before he ends up getting caught
1:06:09
with the ultimate wrong. Because again, there's enough of
1:06:12
these that add up in different walks of life too.
1:06:15
And we've seen it in football too.
1:06:16
A lot of guys that end up getting caught, football players
1:06:19
getting caught in season. Michael Kendrick's most recent
1:06:22
one with a financial scheme, he was suspended for a whole year
1:06:24
when he was with the Browns. The Giants had a couple players,
1:06:26
Will Allen and James Butler I think was the other one was a
1:06:29
safety that was caught in a lot of different things like that.
1:06:31
So there's enough of those that can go around with a guy's still
1:06:34
playing too. So you do have to be careful,
1:06:36
especially internationally speaking where these guys can
1:06:39
get involved of where these money is going.
1:06:41
I don't know Belo if. Speedy Well, what would you
1:06:43
consider the ultimate like? I mean, 240 schmills ain't
1:06:48
nothing to ride home. No, no, I know that.
1:06:50
I'm talking about like the types of people and the types of
1:06:52
investments that are getting. Him oh like it's the involvement
1:06:55
with the people's money versus real estate what is.
1:06:58
More of what I'm getting at, because he has enough money
1:07:01
where he's going to get, like you said, all this endorsement
1:07:03
money plus the contract he's already getting with the
1:07:05
Dodgers. Like how much more other
1:07:06
investments are you going to make?
1:07:07
You just got to be careful. Nobody's attacking him for the
1:07:10
investments that he's putting. If it, if it's a fair investment
1:07:13
and he's not scheming something or he's not involved with the
1:07:16
scheme, all the power to him. Invest what you want.
1:07:19
Do whatever the hell you want. You want to stamp your name to
1:07:21
it, do it, Errol. So here's the thing.
1:07:24
This is where you can defend Otani.
1:07:26
I'm not. I'm not.
1:07:27
Defending I'm let me, let me say this because you need to hear
1:07:30
who Belalo is. He's the head of the baseball
1:07:34
division of CAA. He's not just some random agent
1:07:38
that he's in bed with, He's one of the top 50 most powerful
1:07:41
agents in all sports six years in a row according to this
1:07:45
article I have open here from him.
1:07:47
I mean, he's talking up how great he is in this article.
1:07:51
CAA is the one that might be in the biggest amount of trouble
1:07:55
right here. No, they're.
1:07:56
Not what are they doing making land deals, using their guys as
1:08:01
leverage to, to try to like strong arm land real estate
1:08:05
deals. That is, I mean, that's a big
1:08:09
time money. I mean, we're seeing 240 million
1:08:12
sued just from two guys. There's a lot more than that
1:08:15
money wise going on here. If that's the only thing that
1:08:17
we've seen so far, it's there's something interesting going on
1:08:21
at CAA and I think that people are going to start paying a lot
1:08:25
closer attention because this guy, it wasn't just some rogue
1:08:29
agent. He's in charge of the entire
1:08:31
baseball division there. CAA.
1:08:32
Is one of the high profiled agencies in the world.
1:08:37
They're they're top three. Are they in trouble?
1:08:40
No, because baseball is connected with them.
1:08:44
Baseball, half of their players are probably working with CAA.
1:08:47
So I, I think obviously these guys are going to be paid off or
1:08:52
something's going to be done where things are going to be
1:08:55
brushed under the rug. Baseball's not even their
1:08:57
biggest. Department, right?
1:08:58
No, no, football and basketball are and I know a couple of
1:09:02
basketball players. You know, Actor actors is how it
1:09:05
started. That's why it's Creative Artists
1:09:06
Agency. No, I know.
1:09:08
Yeah, there's, there's the the modeling and the acting is one
1:09:12
of the biggest parts. I said no to them, by the way.
1:09:15
New York is and LA are two very big places that they are very
1:09:20
popular in, especially their agencies.
1:09:23
And if you go and check it out in LA, Hollywood is, is one of
1:09:27
their agencies and the other one is in Manhattan, right Square in
1:09:30
the heart of Manhattan is CAA and the their agency.
1:09:33
How do I know this? Well, I've been on the phone
1:09:36
with a couple of their agents over the last couple of years.
1:09:40
So I know a little bit about CAA and I know they're a big
1:09:43
organization that has very has a lot of connections when it comes
1:09:48
to professional athletes, not just baseball, but basketball
1:09:51
and football. But again, going back to Otani
1:09:54
and my thoughts to Otani is to me what baseball needs to do is
1:10:00
sit down with this kid. He has a kid, he's 3031 years
1:10:03
old. We all know he's making $100
1:10:07
million a year off his endorsements and his
1:10:09
sponsorships. Sit down with the kid and say to
1:10:11
him, listen, you are the face of professional baseball worldwide.
1:10:18
If you are going to be the face of our organization, you need to
1:10:23
put yourself around people that are going to make you grow, not
1:10:28
bring you down. And I'm not saying CAA and Nez
1:10:33
Balalo is is a guy that'll put you down, but obviously he was
1:10:36
using his name to scheme something to make him more
1:10:40
money. That to me tells me you need to
1:10:42
stay away from this guy. You need to stay away from CAA.
1:10:45
You need to stay away from guys that are going to use your name
1:10:48
to benefit themselves and not benefit you.
1:10:50
And right now, for where the story is going, he is his name
1:10:55
stamped all over this. So it tells me baseball needs to
1:11:00
investigate it because if they're going to tell me right
1:11:03
now that this man knew nothing about this, that's a lie.
1:11:07
It's an absolute lie. And by the way, Carl, Carl was
1:11:11
saying asking, Asking isn't a Tony's current deal deferred,
1:11:16
meaning he isn't making that much now.
1:11:18
But it's is, I mean, is owed the ridiculous amount later.
1:11:24
He is, yes, he's getting deferred money in the future.
1:11:27
He's making $100 million a year in endorsements and sponsors.
1:11:30
So by the time he gets his deferred money, he's already
1:11:33
going to be a billionaire if he's not already with some of
1:11:37
the moves in some of the endorsements that he's he's
1:11:40
making money off of right now. So he's already the richest
1:11:43
baseball player in professional baseball.
1:11:46
There's nobody even close to him, even Juan Soto making 60
1:11:50
million a year. And, and Juan Soto is getting
1:11:52
the money upfront. He's still making more money
1:11:55
than Juan Soto is yearly without even getting his money from the
1:11:59
Dodgers. So, yeah, when you're when
1:12:02
you're talking about a guy that's bringing in ridiculous
1:12:03
money. And obviously it would bother me
1:12:06
if I was a professional baseball player like Aaron Judge or any
1:12:09
of these guys. And you're hearing this story.
1:12:11
And this guy, this is the second story in two years that he is a
1:12:16
part of. And again, this story is going
1:12:18
to be brushed under the rug that he has nothing to do with or his
1:12:21
name's just stamped to it and nobody cares cares that Otani
1:12:24
has been a part of these stories.
1:12:26
Well, let me ask you, why would it bother you?
1:12:28
It's not affecting your money. It's not bothering me.
1:12:31
It's bothering me, no. I'm saying you said if it was,
1:12:33
if you were a player in the league, like, why would it
1:12:35
bother you? Why would it bother Aaron Judge?
1:12:37
Who cares? You ask them, but.
1:12:39
It's it's not affecting his money.
1:12:41
What Otani does does not affect Aaron Judge's money.
1:12:44
It's it's affecting the league's integrity, is it not?
1:12:48
Well, if nothing happens to him, no it doesn't.
1:12:51
I think. All these guys getting in
1:12:53
trouble in the NFL, you don't think that affects integrity?
1:12:55
They're still making billions of dollars.
1:12:57
You think they care? No.
1:13:00
There are players out there that absolutely care.
1:13:03
As we all know, some of these veteran players that are retired
1:13:06
are stepping in and wondering why these players are making the
1:13:09
money that they're making now. And they weren't making anywhere
1:13:12
close to that kind of money in the 90s and the early 2000s.
1:13:16
But obviously with the the CBA and, and all these different TV
1:13:19
deals, the money is starting to pour in.
1:13:21
So job, I understand what you're saying, but the players, you're
1:13:24
going to tell me that there's over 250 or 300 players in the
1:13:28
major leagues, they're not going to care that Otani is a part of
1:13:30
these stories. And Otani has been a part of all
1:13:33
these all these stories that could turn into something that's
1:13:37
going to smack baseball in the face.
1:13:39
Obviously, sport you're wrong because sports betting is right
1:13:42
now it's growing legs around the country in professional sports.
1:13:46
And he's if you if you're looking at that story, he's
1:13:49
invested more money in sports betting than any professional
1:13:52
athlete. And it was brushed under the rug
1:13:55
And the FBI was investigating it for two weeks when they were
1:13:58
offshore accounts all over. And they were how many accounts
1:14:02
does Cheryl Tony have? 5-6 accounts And none of them
1:14:05
came out and said anything that he didn't know that 20 something
1:14:09
$1,000,000 was missing out of his accounts.
1:14:11
Now come on Joppa, you're going to tell me that players weren't
1:14:14
saying something. We've had guys on this show
1:14:16
before you even game on the show that were attacking Shay Otani.
1:14:19
I don't I don't know them, but it I just give two shits who's
1:14:23
who's the guy. I think they're less.
1:14:25
Who's the guy that brought up to Shay Otani?
1:14:27
Speedy. I'm just saying, I'm just saying
1:14:28
me personally, I don't know anybody else.
1:14:31
I can't speak for other people. For me, what he does in his time
1:14:34
with his money, it doesn't affect.
1:14:36
Me, I know, I know. It was, it was, it was Mike
1:14:39
Pinto, one of the times we had. Him.
1:14:40
It wasn't Pinto, wasn't it? Who the hell is?
1:14:42
That it was. Who's the guy?
1:14:44
The the, the, I forget the mathematical guy.
1:14:49
He Jabba knows him. He was talking about steroids.
1:14:52
Oh, Ryan Spader. Ryan Spader, Ryan Spader Ryan
1:14:55
Spader took shots at Shay Otani and Ryan Spader is very well
1:15:01
respected around the baseball world.
1:15:03
Spader is my dude. We we go at it all the time.
1:15:05
And Ryan Spader had came out and said that there's no doubt in
1:15:08
his mind that Shay Otani knew that he was in.
1:15:11
He was so knees deep into that scandal.
1:15:14
He said there is no way Shay Otani didn't know that there was
1:15:18
18 to $20 million missing out of his account.
1:15:20
There's no way even a rich guy like that, you can't tell me
1:15:24
that he, he didn't know that $20 million was missing out of his
1:15:28
account. I mean even you job, you're
1:15:30
going to tell me if you had $100 million, you didn't know that
1:15:33
2012 or $20 million was missing out of your account?
1:15:37
Yeah, I mean I but this has nothing to do.
1:15:39
It doesn't affect me, so why do I care?
1:15:42
It doesn't affect you, but it it in other players eyes, it does
1:15:46
affect them in their eyes. They listen, I'll get a baseball
1:15:50
player on this show and I don't care if you OK.
1:15:52
One that I know. Kevin Mensch, he was on the
1:15:56
show, you know. Yeah, I know.
1:15:57
Yeah, OK. Keep going.
1:15:59
Like, give me Kevin Mensch didn't make $100 million.
1:16:04
But that's not the point. What We're talking about
1:16:06
baseball players that played in the Major League.
1:16:09
And that's but that's their own opinion.
1:16:11
It doesn't affect. I, I, I, I know it doesn't
1:16:14
affect you. That's not my argument here.
1:16:16
My argument here is that it does bother players and it does
1:16:21
affect them. Maybe it doesn't affect you, but
1:16:24
it's affected or has affected other players in the league.
1:16:27
Now. Now, if I had a list of guys
1:16:28
that said yes or no, then I can tell you, oh, this guy said it,
1:16:32
that guy said it, but you're one guy that says it doesn't affect
1:16:35
you, so you don't care. But I'm sure there's a list of
1:16:39
players that have come out and said that has affected them.
1:16:42
Maybe not their money, but it's affected the game and the
1:16:44
integrity of the game. That's what I'm saying anyways.
1:16:49
We could go back and forth on this.
1:16:51
All right, ladies and gentlemen, our deuce of the day.
1:16:53
The deuce of the day you log not a log.
1:16:57
I don't have a log but. No.
1:17:05
Oh right, the deuce of the day. And we got to go quick because
1:17:08
our guest is waiting. Our deuce of the day goes to
1:17:11
Shidor Sanders. Ladies and gentlemen.
1:17:13
Shidor Sanders is out and about as a story comes out that he
1:17:18
injured himself. Yes, he's injured and could be
1:17:21
out a significant amount of time.
1:17:23
As we've heard, the backup quarterback of the backup
1:17:27
quarterback of the backup quarterback are now injured.
1:17:31
Who's left, ladies and gentlemen?
1:17:33
The one and very own Joe Flacco as all Dylan Gabriel.
1:17:39
Who's the other guy? Kenny Pick.
1:17:40
Kenny, pick it. And now should door Sanders, all
1:17:45
three of them are injured and could be out a significant
1:17:48
amount of time. Obviously he tweaked them.
1:17:50
What was it? I think he tweaked his his
1:17:53
oblique, which is I don't know how bad it is for football.
1:17:57
I know for wide receivers and tight ends, they're bad for
1:18:01
quarterbacks. I don't know I I who's the last
1:18:04
quarterback that that. Cam Newton I think had one.
1:18:06
Was it Cam Newton? I think it was.
1:18:08
Was it Russell Wilson? Maybe you're right, yeah.
1:18:10
It was Russell Wilson, I think was the last quarterback that I
1:18:13
can remember that pulled in oblique muscle and was out a
1:18:17
significant amount of time. But obviously this is a pretty
1:18:22
significant injury. And what does that tell you
1:18:26
about the Cleveland Browns? Well, six quarterbacks on the
1:18:29
roster might not be enough. They might have to add 1 or
1:18:32
maybe even two more to a roster. Think about this right now.
1:18:37
Going into preseason, they had six quarterbacks on their
1:18:40
roster. Now you have 3 quarterbacks that
1:18:43
are hurt. Could you imagine them have 8 or
1:18:46
9 quarterbacks to a roster? It, it, I mean, it's it's
1:18:49
absolutely astonishing the way the the way the Browns are
1:18:54
running their organization right now.
1:18:56
And the only one that's healthy is the old man himself, the guy
1:18:59
that came off his parent sofa, Joe Flacco.
1:19:03
So my deuce of the day goes not to Shadora Sanders.
1:19:06
No, no, no. The Cleveland Browns.
1:19:08
That's the deuce of the day. How stupid could an organization
1:19:12
be as they keep adding quarterback after quarterback
1:19:17
after quarterback and now another 1A youngster who could
1:19:21
be out a significant amount of time?
1:19:24
That's the deuce of the day. All right, When we come back, we
1:19:27
will be talking to Special Olympics baseball coach and
1:19:30
author of Just Need an Opportunity.
1:19:34
Tony, hold on, Speedy. How do you pronounce this again?
1:19:36
Vahovic. Vahovic who?
1:19:39
Who's the kid that the, the, the safety that we've had on this
1:19:42
show? Marco Vidakovic.
1:19:44
The Dakovic, and this is Vahovic, so is he Polish?
1:19:48
I'm not sure. We definitely got to get into
1:19:50
that when we get back, when we come back.
1:19:52
But first, our sports minute with the fish.
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startling in mission in the upcoming Dallas Cowboys
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Mike Florio, who's pre screened the documentary series which
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Dallas Morning News reporter Brad Townsend asked Jones about
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medicine, the treatment works and he's been with us the past
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Heading into the season. With star edge rusher Michael
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Again, documentary errors Next Tuesday on Netflix, the estate
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of the late Paul Allen and Carolina Hurricanes owner Tom
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Dundon agreed to the sale of the Portland Trail Blazers to the
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hockey owner for just over $4 billion.
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Dundon intends on keeping the team in Portland, sources told
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ESPN on Wednesday. Allen, who died in 2018, had the
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Blazers tied up in his estate since his death, both the 25%
1:21:48
stake in the Seattle Seahawks and MLS Seattle Sounders are
1:21:52
still remaining Islands estate. After the sale, Dundon and his
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partnership group are expected to discuss a a public private
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partnership with the City of Portland on the construction of
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a new arena after the arena was sold to the city for $1.00 last
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year and land under it for seven million, with the city agreeing
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So yet another billionaire will ask taxpayers to subsidize the
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Well, I guess that's better than losing your team though.
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And finally, the Kansas City Chiefs future Hall of Fame tight
1:22:27
end Travis Kelsey admitted that his Hollywood ambitions have led
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him to losing some focus, causing his dip in production on
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the field the past couple of seasons.
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Ironically, in an interview with GQ magazine, Kelsey was quoted
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1:22:42
little bit because I did have a little bit more focus on trying
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to set myself up and opportunities came up where I
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was excited to venture into a new world of acting and being an
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entertainer. I don't say this as I shouldn't
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have done it, I'm just saying that my work ethic is such that
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I have so much pride in how I do things that I never want the
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product to tail off and I feel like these past two years
1:23:01
haven't been to my standard. I have such a motivation to show
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up this year for my guys. Kelsey, who will turn 36 this
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October, may be right about the lack of focus.
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1:25:57
carefully. We are now talking to Special
1:25:59
Olympics baseball coach and author of Just Need an
1:26:02
Opportunity. Tony, hold on.
1:26:05
Vlahovic. Tony, what's up, buddy?
1:26:09
Hey, how you doing, Earl? Hey, you, you.
1:26:11
You pronounce it beautifully. Thank you.
1:26:13
That's great. Great.
1:26:14
I'm very bad with names and obviously Ukrainian names.
1:26:19
A lot of hockey names over the years I've had problems with
1:26:22
them and pronouncing it. Speedy puts up the pronunciation
1:26:26
on the board and it's very, very hard because he puts it on the
1:26:29
way he would sound it out and not the way I would sound out.
1:26:32
And by the way, we had, we had a specific segment called sounded
1:26:37
out over the last couple of months.
1:26:38
We don't do it much anymore. But they would put like all
1:26:42
these sports, different names from football, baseball, hockey,
1:26:46
tennis and they pop them up and I would have to try to sound it
1:26:49
out. And I'm not very good at it.
1:26:50
I was most of the time batting 300, but usually I would I would
1:26:55
go under 300. I'm not very good at it.
1:26:57
But anyways. I That's Hall of Fame numbers.
1:27:01
I am not a Hall of Famer, not yet at least.
1:27:03
I mean, Jobber's more of a Hall of Famer than I am as of right
1:27:07
now. But nevertheless, I want to get
1:27:09
into some of the great things you're doing right now.
1:27:13
And obviously I want to 1st talk about your book.
1:27:17
Just need an opportunity. How did this come about?
1:27:20
Why, obviously, did you decide to write a book?
1:27:25
It started I all through my entire life, I've been
1:27:28
surrounded with people who have had disabilities growing up in
1:27:32
the northern part of Pennsylvania.
1:27:34
Some of the kids I grew up with were, you know, in, in special
1:27:38
Ed, things like that. And there were kids in the
1:27:40
neighborhood who wouldn't pick them, would pick on them.
1:27:43
And I was their protector. And I don't know where that came
1:27:47
from, but they, they were good people.
1:27:49
And I didn't want anybody to bother them.
1:27:52
You know, I, I picked them, I played with them.
1:27:55
And throughout my life, I realized that I've been around
1:27:59
people with disabilities and kind of put it all together back
1:28:03
in 2012 when I met with Special Olympics New Jersey.
1:28:07
The CEO at that time was a gentleman named Mark Edenson
1:28:11
called me in and said, hey, I, I think people with disabilities
1:28:15
can play the game of baseball. What do you think?
1:28:19
And he said to me, look, you've been wearing a baseball hat all
1:28:21
your life. They have also, but they've
1:28:24
never had the opportunity to play.
1:28:26
So that's, that really started this whole process of I needed
1:28:31
to write about my relationship with the athletes and about my
1:28:36
life. And I really want to use the
1:28:38
book as a platform to increase awareness for people who have
1:28:43
disabilities. You know, there, there are 62
1:28:45
million people in the United States with disabilities.
1:28:48
That's amazing. I mean, you're talking about
1:28:50
what maybe, you know, at least 1/4, possibly 1/3 of the
1:28:54
population. And again, these athletes love
1:28:59
the game. They know more about the game
1:29:02
than my high school athletes that I coach.
1:29:05
And I wanted to to give something back to them and, and
1:29:07
bring that to awareness to A to a larger audience, which when it
1:29:12
came out, it was a #1 new release.
1:29:15
And then I also did an audio book, which, which was great
1:29:19
because a lot of my athletes had some difficulty with
1:29:22
comprehension, but listening to it was easier for them than
1:29:27
reading. So that evolution of, of, you
1:29:31
know, basically looking at my life and saying, you know, I've,
1:29:34
I've been around people like this and I think it's time to,
1:29:38
to share that information and put them in a limelight.
1:29:42
And they, they are some of the most incredible people I've ever
1:29:46
met in my life. So any specific experiences that
1:29:49
you recall that you've explained to your kids, obviously you had
1:29:52
a scary accident when you were playing baseball growing up.
1:29:55
And then obviously, what are some of the biggest influences
1:29:58
on them that you've mentioned in your book from your previous in
1:30:01
your past life? Definitely, definitely the
1:30:05
accident and also surviving cancer when I was 14.
1:30:11
So, you know, to, to go back and, and look at my life and the
1:30:16
different difficulties and obstacles I've, I've basically
1:30:20
worked through, helped me to be able to coach athletes with
1:30:25
disabilities, share with them, have some sense of what it's
1:30:30
like to be a little bit different than some other
1:30:33
people. And I think all those things put
1:30:36
together definitely has helped to create a, an environment that
1:30:43
they trust me and we we grow from there.
1:30:46
And it's not only about the game of baseball, it's, it's, it's
1:30:48
about the kind of people they are and, and basically exposing
1:30:52
those people, the people in the outside world who may have never
1:30:55
had contact with a person. But you know, the more you talk
1:30:59
to people, there probably is somebody in their life or their
1:31:02
extended family friends who have some type of disability.
1:31:06
Tony, this I, I was excited to have you on the show.
1:31:09
So obviously, first and foremost, appreciate your time,
1:31:11
but it's near and dear to my heart.
1:31:14
My father was paralyzed on his left side.
1:31:15
He got the epidemic of polio in 52 and was never able to walk
1:31:19
and was was stricken to a wheelchair in August of 91
1:31:24
permanently. And he started League of Human
1:31:28
Dignity, which was basically me growing up.
1:31:31
And everybody always thought it was different.
1:31:33
And I love how you bring it up. It's they're not different.
1:31:36
They do things different way just like everybody else does.
1:31:38
And have they started the Miracle League, what it's called
1:31:41
here? And for anybody, just to, to see
1:31:44
smiles on their faces and, and to be able to be a part of that.
1:31:48
I, I wish so many people would get an opportunity to see how
1:31:52
special not only they are, as who they are, but to look past
1:31:59
what they, whether it's CP, whether it's cystic fiber,
1:32:03
whatever the case may be, and to see, you know, how strong and
1:32:07
how these kids and adults can just, they persevere.
1:32:11
And I was so honored and blessed to be my dad's son for all the
1:32:17
things that he did for people and allowed them to have an
1:32:20
opportunity. I mean, from the time I can
1:32:22
remember, I'm loading scooters and, you know, getting to try
1:32:25
out all this equipment, excessive technology was another
1:32:27
program my dad started for, you know, kids and, and learning how
1:32:31
to type and do this other stuff that, you know, couldn't talk
1:32:34
and, and then was able to live that normal life.
1:32:36
So I was super excited to be able to have you on and, and to
1:32:40
hear your perspective of the things you did.
1:32:42
And I think you bring up a great point that people don't really
1:32:45
understand. Like sometimes they only see the
1:32:47
physical limitations of what they are, but there's so many
1:32:49
things that that go deeper than that.
1:32:51
So hats off to you. It's been something I've known
1:32:55
and done my whole life and I, I wish more people would, would be
1:32:59
involved and understand, you know, how important this is
1:33:01
because we're all in the same playing field.
1:33:03
It doesn't matter if you got, you know, 6 toes if you can't
1:33:06
walk. But you know what?
1:33:07
To have that opportunity and see smiles on faces, it makes it all
1:33:11
worth it. Definitely job it, it's, it
1:33:14
comes from the heart. I mean, you, you have a, you
1:33:17
know, with, with, with your dad. I mean, I, I see these athletes
1:33:21
and work with them and like you said, they may talk a little bit
1:33:23
different, look a little bit different, walk a little bit
1:33:26
different, but the love that they have and wanting to be a
1:33:29
part of something when they're a part of the team, it's one of
1:33:32
the most incredible things you've ever seen.
1:33:34
I mean, they, they just, and from being in locker rooms or
1:33:38
clubhouses, they want to be treated just like anybody else.
1:33:43
When I, when I started to coach them, I was probably too much in
1:33:47
terms of coaching them like like a baby and, you know, being a
1:33:51
little bit softer. And one said to me, Coach, come
1:33:54
on. Well, they don't.
1:33:55
They don't like it. No, no, no, I pissed them off.
1:34:01
They let me know about it pretty quickly and I appreciated that.
1:34:05
And now I, I mean, I bust their chops and they give it right
1:34:08
back to me. But it's, it's I love them, you
1:34:12
know, they, they, they just give so much.
1:34:16
And all it is, is we gave them an opportunity to play a game
1:34:19
that they love. And we just got back from Cary,
1:34:22
NC and USA Baseball. I started a program with my Co
1:34:27
founder Gary Kropovka five years ago called Base Able.
1:34:31
And the reason we did that is I'm involved with Special
1:34:34
Olympics, but Special Olympics really didn't pick up the
1:34:38
baseball as much as I want them to.
1:34:40
So we started something on our own and started a nonprofit and
1:34:44
all the money goes to the athletes for travel, for
1:34:47
uniforms, for equipment, anything that they need and
1:34:52
carry. And USA Baseball is incredible.
1:34:54
We spent a weekend down there, worked out with the college
1:34:57
national team, played an exhibition game in the stadium
1:35:01
for our athletes. That's like being in the MLB.
1:35:04
It just that they had an absolute great time and it's
1:35:09
amazing when when we're sitting in the airport in Durham ready
1:35:12
to fly back to Newark. They all sent out some type of
1:35:16
thank you, either e-mail, text or letter to USA Baseball.
1:35:20
Didn't have to say a word. They were so appreciative of the
1:35:23
time and effort that was put into that weekend.
1:35:27
Just amazing, incredible people. We are talking a Special
1:35:32
Olympics baseball coach and author of Just Need an
1:35:35
Opportunity, Tony Vlahovic. You know, Tony, first of all,
1:35:40
I've worked with a lot of different kids over the years,
1:35:43
autistic actually. We have one right in the studio
1:35:47
right now, one of the best in the business broadcasting and
1:35:50
that's Speedy, Speedy right here.
1:35:52
He's as, as he has Asperger's and he's a guy that has, is one
1:35:56
of the best in the business when it comes to autism.
1:36:00
It's to me. He's a normal person.
1:36:02
He's like anybody else. I don't judge him.
1:36:05
Me and him have gone back and forth over the years and Speedy
1:36:07
will tell you I've always considered him an equal to me.
1:36:11
I don't look at him any differently and I've always
1:36:14
respected his talent and his growth in this industry.
1:36:18
And I've been around a lot of kids over the years that I've
1:36:21
had problems, mental issues, obviously autistic issues.
1:36:26
I've never looked at differently.
1:36:28
We're all the same. We're all built with the same
1:36:31
hands, the same brains, the same everything.
1:36:34
Obviously other people are born a little bit differently, but I,
1:36:38
I never look at them any differently than anybody else.
1:36:41
Now I know you've worked in the Special Olympics.
1:36:44
What kind of experience was that working with all these different
1:36:48
young guys and kids that are obviously have all the different
1:36:52
issues that they have? And what was the what was the
1:36:56
push to what was the drive to become a coach for the Special
1:36:59
Olympics? It was really that that first
1:37:03
meeting and the idea of believing that they, these
1:37:07
athletes have never been given the opportunity.
1:37:10
What we did was we started with with some open workouts and to
1:37:14
be quite honest with there was 90 people in the gym.
1:37:17
It was total mayhem. It was, it was craziness and it
1:37:20
was just just this wild event. I took some of my high school
1:37:23
players with me and they're look at me like, coach, what the hell
1:37:26
is going on? But what we did was we we
1:37:30
started to develop their skills and their growth and develop
1:37:34
those relationships and that really spurred me on.
1:37:38
From that point. We set up a league in 2013 with
1:37:43
four teams and then pick the team.
1:37:46
The Special Olympics have an event called the USA Games,
1:37:50
which next year it'll be in Minneapolis and in back in 2014,
1:37:55
baseball was an exhibition sport.
1:37:58
First time in the 45 year history of Special Olympics
1:38:02
baseball was offered and job. You'll appreciate this.
1:38:05
We actually played a Trenton Thunder Stadium with it with the
1:38:08
Yankees. Used to have their AA ballclub.
1:38:11
Still do. Yeah, yeah.
1:38:13
They, well, they actually moved, they moved out of Trenton
1:38:17
unfortunately. But the we there were four
1:38:21
teams, Alabama, Delaware, Rhode Island and New Jersey.
1:38:27
And I coached team New Jersey. We actually played Rhode Island
1:38:30
for the gold medal in front of 3000 people.
1:38:33
And it was, it was an incredible night.
1:38:37
We, we ended up playing the gold medal six to two.
1:38:40
There was not a dry ice, dry eye in the house.
1:38:44
I mean, it was wild. The fans loved it.
1:38:46
The players were, were both teams.
1:38:49
You know what we're celebrating. It was just an incredible night.
1:38:52
And when you have athletes say to you, coach, this is one of
1:38:55
the best nights of my life. Whoever thought, you know, they
1:38:59
would start with this large group and now you're wearing a
1:39:02
gold medal around your neck and you're representing something
1:39:06
that pioneers really across the country.
1:39:10
So that was that was one of the the most incredible days in my
1:39:16
life. Also to see these guys take a
1:39:18
step back and just take it all in and watch them celebrate and
1:39:23
then get a police escort back to the College of New Jersey where
1:39:26
we were staying. We were rock stars for the
1:39:29
night. It was, it was great.
1:39:32
But the, the amount of people and the amount of support for
1:39:35
for that event was, was just, was just incredible.
1:39:40
So I wanted to ask a minute from like different age group
1:39:42
standpoint, because we we interviewed a football player a
1:39:44
couple of years ago and Dyrell Briggs, who won a Super Bowl
1:39:46
with the Packers and he was doing a lot of a lot of Special
1:39:49
Olympics type things with youth sports.
1:39:51
And we've also seen it now in college and in high schools too.
1:39:54
Like what is what do you think has been the impact like
1:39:57
throughout like other different age groups that you've seen not
1:40:00
just in baseball but in other sports?
1:40:03
I I think the the age group is to give you an idea on on that,
1:40:07
that Special Olympic USA team, I had 19 athletes on the roster.
1:40:12
My youngest was 16, my oldest was 54.
1:40:15
Wow. And I think what, what you see
1:40:18
is, is that age group has expanded.
1:40:20
It's also expanded to to men and women, which is great.
1:40:24
So you're, you're creating opportunities that were never
1:40:26
there before. I, I think we're, we're still
1:40:29
trying to build and we talked about this with USA Baseball
1:40:33
today on the grade school and the middle school level and
1:40:36
introducing the game at that level and basically creating a,
1:40:41
a minor league program across the country to show that these
1:40:44
athletes then they can play the game game, introduce it to them,
1:40:48
have them develop just like through the Miracle League that
1:40:52
Jabba mentioned, there's a job, the Miracle League actually ages
1:40:56
out at like 16 and they do an incredible job.
1:40:59
They, they, they really do. So we'd like to help those
1:41:03
athletes after they age out to be able to continue to play, but
1:41:08
that that age span has definitely increased over the
1:41:12
years in, in all sports. The, the, I know the NFL does
1:41:16
does a lot the NBAML, the professional soccer does a draft
1:41:22
every year that, you know, just just incredible.
1:41:24
I, I know that the NHL after we played Rhode Island, the the
1:41:28
Bruins honored them up in Boston.
1:41:31
It just, I, I think it's, it's a great, it's a win win for every
1:41:36
professional and college program out there to, to give back.
1:41:41
I, I know that Clemson has, has an extended program for
1:41:45
individuals with, with disabilities and, and a
1:41:48
graduation. I have some athletes down in
1:41:50
South Carolina that attend Coastal Carolina.
1:41:54
The athletes down there work with them.
1:41:56
We have a program that that we'll do down at the Myrtle
1:42:00
Beach Stadium in February called Swing for Inclusion that will
1:42:05
have 5 states involved. We did a clinic down there.
1:42:08
There was over 100 athletes, invited athletes from the
1:42:11
Miracle League. And what we try to do is get our
1:42:14
our current athletes that are playing for us to teach part of
1:42:18
that clinic, which is, which is really cool that so our athletes
1:42:22
love that because now they're giving back and and they're
1:42:26
they're giving back to the game and to the sport that they love.
1:42:30
Tony, have you? We, we're kind of talking about
1:42:32
expanding our brand in, in certain avenues and it's just
1:42:36
something we've kind of talked about.
1:42:38
Have you ever thought about like as you get these athletes and as
1:42:41
you expand, you know, age divisions, rackets, men and
1:42:45
women? However, have you ever thought
1:42:47
about as it correlates with sports, like being able to join
1:42:53
with a company or a foundation or something where not only does
1:42:56
it put them in a great place athletically and to be that
1:43:00
athlete, but also house them and give them an opportunity to be
1:43:03
self-sufficient. And, you know, being like my dad
1:43:06
would do a lot of times, you know, a lot of these athletes
1:43:10
that he would work with to have a job, to feel part of it, to be
1:43:13
a bad grocer, like to team up with, with something where, you
1:43:17
know, because sometimes they feel like, and, and I've come
1:43:20
into counter with this where when the season's over, it's
1:43:22
like it's the end of the world. You know, sometimes to them,
1:43:25
because that's what they have. But then they still feel a part
1:43:28
of something as a team to like, I guess join and, and be able to
1:43:33
use what they've learned, you know, being an athlete and
1:43:37
growing in that way. But so in life, to be
1:43:39
self-sufficient and the things that they've learned on the
1:43:41
field, to take them, to be able to to live and grow not only as
1:43:46
an athlete but as a person. Absolutely, there are a lot of
1:43:49
our athletes actually work at places like UPS, Amazon.
1:43:54
So, so they're, they're, they're part of something.
1:43:56
But yes, they, they, a lot of them are, they're incorporating
1:43:59
job coaches to help them out, which is, which is excellent.
1:44:05
So we've talked about that, you know, trying to get more
1:44:09
companies involved because again, I, I really believe it's,
1:44:12
it's, it's a win win. When I had a business in, in
1:44:16
Princeton, NJ, I always had a few people with disabilities who
1:44:20
work for me, probably some of the best employees I had.
1:44:24
They were never late. They appreciated everything that
1:44:27
you did and, and they were just, they were just a lot of fun.
1:44:32
One of my employees who had Down syndrome asked every woman in
1:44:36
the place to marry him. So we had to calm that down a
1:44:38
little bit, But it was he, he was great, had a great
1:44:42
personality. Just the way that they, as you
1:44:47
mentioned, being part of a team, you want to expand that, you
1:44:50
want to take that to their life and use that the skills that
1:44:53
they learned playing ball in their life skills and their
1:44:57
relationships. And I, I, I've seen that improve
1:45:01
on a lot of different levels for them, starting at, you know,
1:45:05
being part of a team, learning how to give, you know, learning
1:45:09
how to interact with people, learning how to communicate a
1:45:11
little bit better, learning to listen a little bit more, and
1:45:16
then taking that out in the world and having their own
1:45:19
relationship and also with, with work.
1:45:22
And once, once you see people respond like that, you know that
1:45:27
you're on to something, you know, and in my opinion that,
1:45:31
that that's only going to grow. And if you can continue to, to
1:45:35
present that and put that out there for people saying, Hey,
1:45:39
you can do this and that confidence builds and then they
1:45:43
take the others just like that, that positive peer pressure, we
1:45:47
can do this. And then they, they start to
1:45:49
take their friends and say, Hey, I have a friend who could work
1:45:53
here, you know, can you, can you interview him?
1:45:56
So working on, on all those skills.
1:45:58
But you know, I, I've seen that evolution from back in 2012 and
1:46:04
just continued with, with, with the growth of, of these people
1:46:08
in general, on and off the field.
1:46:12
You know, it, it, like you said, there's a ton of smiles and you
1:46:15
know, you get it, it's from the heart.
1:46:18
And, and they give it back to you in, in spades.
1:46:20
I I've you have have a bad day and they come up and I I don't
1:46:23
think I've ever been hugged that much in my life in a weekend,
1:46:26
like when we go to Carrie, just very thankful that the the
1:46:31
smiles on their faces. It just, it just changes, change
1:46:35
your world, change my life in in so many ways, in so many
1:46:38
positive ways. I think it's amazing.
1:46:41
I think everything that you've done is absolutely amazing.
1:46:44
I, I, again, my, my, my nephew is, has a Asperger's and I'm
1:46:49
trying to teach him camaraderie. I, I've, I made him join the
1:46:52
Long Island elite And he, he's playing with all these top
1:46:55
football players right now in Long Island.
1:46:57
He's never played football. He's just built big.
1:47:00
He's like a truck. And I told him, you're going to
1:47:02
learn camaraderie. And once you learn how to be a
1:47:05
team and you work together as an offensive lineman, everything
1:47:08
works together. And he's starting to really
1:47:11
understand it. And he didn't, he was very, very
1:47:14
quiet. He didn't really like to be
1:47:15
interactive with people. He would sit in front of his TV
1:47:18
all day long. And I was like, you got to get
1:47:20
out and about. You got to hang out and you got
1:47:22
to get to know people and, and be more commutative.
1:47:26
And ever since he started doing that, it's been a couple of
1:47:29
weeks. I think he's opened up so many
1:47:32
opportunities and ways where he can communicate and become
1:47:36
friendly with other people. And I think it's great.
1:47:38
And I'm so happy to watch him grow as a young man, 13 years
1:47:42
old and he's still so much left and life to understand a little
1:47:47
bit more about how to work as a team.
1:47:49
So I, I think it's a great story.
1:47:51
I, I love everything about you, Tony.
1:47:53
And you know, when Nathan told me that we were going to get you
1:47:56
on the show, I think it's just all the things that you're
1:47:58
doing. It's remarkable.
1:48:00
It's great. And, and to me, we're doing,
1:48:03
we're starting and like Jabba was saying, we're working on a
1:48:05
nonprofit organization where we're with figuring out names
1:48:09
and how we're going to put it together.
1:48:11
We would love to bring you in with us to to help us build our
1:48:15
nonprofit organization because you're so highly connected in so
1:48:19
many different ways with so many different communities.
1:48:22
And I think it would absolutely help us.
1:48:25
I would help you in a heartbeat. I would be honored that that
1:48:28
that would be great. I I would do anything I could to
1:48:31
to help you guys get get started as as you know, I, I can just
1:48:36
from from talking with you today, I can see where you guys
1:48:40
are coming from and, and again, it's coming from the heart.
1:48:42
You guys have have a great show. You have an audience and that
1:48:46
helps out also to get that message out there.
1:48:50
But yeah, anything you need, I I would, I would definitely be a
1:48:54
part of that We. Would love for you to be one of
1:48:55
the, one of the guys. What you're doing right now is
1:48:58
remarkable. I think when, when we're, you
1:49:01
know, Jabba was talking about working with autism and working
1:49:04
with many different organizations.
1:49:06
I think what you do in the Special Olympics and, and all
1:49:09
the connections that you have, I think it would be just so great
1:49:12
for you to come and communicate with some of the, the families
1:49:16
and, and all the different people that are going to be at
1:49:17
these events. And I, I would love for you to
1:49:20
be one of the spokesman of our nonprofit organization.
1:49:23
I would love that. I would absolutely love that.
1:49:26
Thank you. That, that, that, that would be,
1:49:28
that would be great. I, I, in fact, I, I just talking
1:49:33
about another population, the younger population.
1:49:36
I just finished writing a book for kids and it's, it's, we're
1:49:41
working with the illustrator now.
1:49:43
And basically what we're talking about is the acceptance of kids
1:49:47
who are a little bit different. And when I'm writing, when I was
1:49:50
writing it, I didn't come out and say that they had some type
1:49:54
of disability. It just different.
1:49:56
They were different. And you know, they, they went
1:49:59
and they got a letter from Special Olympics.
1:50:01
They, they won the gold medal. And I'm hoping that for like 4
1:50:06
to 8 year old kids that that it's taken in by schools and
1:50:10
accept it, you know, with, with, you know, a much shorter book,
1:50:13
but it's a version of what I wrote in my first book.
1:50:17
And I wanted to reach out to a different population.
1:50:20
And I think that's really important, starting with with
1:50:24
younger people and progressing through.
1:50:26
Well, I will say this, we all have disabilities just because.
1:50:29
We're. We, everyone of us, if you watch
1:50:32
this show, you. Know.
1:50:33
If you watch this show, you would know I have a disability.
1:50:36
I'm absolutely nuts. So anybody that's seen this show
1:50:40
knows my my, my damn goal. But I I do appreciate you.
1:50:45
I definitely will reach out to Nathan.
1:50:47
We definitely would love to get connected with you and as we're
1:50:50
working on marketing and a name of our nonprofit organization,
1:50:54
once we get it set up, we would love to get you involved with
1:50:57
it. We really appreciate the time.
1:50:59
I I love what you're doing. Congratulations on all the great
1:51:02
things you're doing. Keep up the good work and we'll
1:51:04
talk to you soon. Definitely.
1:51:06
Hey, thank you for the opportunity to come on your
1:51:08
show. I really appreciate it.
1:51:09
You guys are great. Thank you very much.
1:51:11
The one and only Tony Vlahovic. I'm good with the names, baby.
1:51:17
It rolls off the tongue. Vlahovic.
1:51:19
Beautiful. Lahovic.
1:51:21
Speedy one time. Lahovic.
1:51:24
Little enthusiasm. Lahovic.
1:51:25
That was this smile. Little, little Donahovic.
1:51:29
Lahovic. Speedy, do you play baseball?
1:51:31
I'm going to try to recruit you to play WAS.
1:51:33
One of the worst Little League baseball players ever.
1:51:35
Ah, no, no, no. Look, now we, we, we, we can
1:51:38
work on that. I that's, I've heard that
1:51:41
before. We we, we, we.
1:51:43
We have. We have our ways.
1:51:44
Tony, one of the best play by play guys you will ever meet.
1:51:49
I'm telling you right now, he will blow anybody out of the
1:51:52
water. This guy can go to a stadium,
1:51:55
football, baseball, hockey, anything.
1:51:57
Get a list of guys, get information about those guys and
1:52:01
bring it to life. I do the color all the time.
1:52:03
He does the play by play people like think like we're like
1:52:06
professional guys that they hired.
1:52:09
It's it's unbelievable. He is sensational.
1:52:11
He's going to be one of the best.
1:52:12
I I do believe that in the future, but.
1:52:15
You know what we could do is put together an exhibition game and
1:52:18
have you guys do that? Absolutely.
1:52:20
We would love it. And Jabba will be in the
1:52:22
background telling him, oh, Tony wasn't doing that.
1:52:25
Oh, Tony wasn't doing that. Oh, Tony wasn't doing that.
1:52:28
John will be working on the he'll, he'll get the Jabba Rules
1:52:31
jerseys ready, yeah. That, that's right.
1:52:33
He's getting it. I saw that.
1:52:36
I saw that film of of that great catch you made against the
1:52:39
Cleveland Indians at the time. Oh, I love it.
1:52:43
Yeah, athlete, maybe. I'm that's right, That's right.
1:52:47
Hey pitchers, I was a pitcher too.
1:52:49
Better believe it I. I'm going to show that.
1:52:51
I'm going to show that clip to to my guys.
1:52:53
They will go crazy with that. Believe it.
1:52:56
Droba is not an athlete. Anyways, we love you, Tony.
1:53:00
We'll talk to you soon, buddy. Hey, great.
1:53:03
Thank you. Thank you guys.
1:53:04
Have a great one. Tony Flahovic, fantastic book
1:53:08
writer. Olympic.
1:53:10
Yeah, Special Olympics coach, great interview, just great
1:53:14
inside of what he's doing right now in the industry and I
1:53:19
nothing a slam dunk. I definitely want to get him
1:53:21
involved with the nonprofit organization job.
1:53:24
I'm sure you do too. And it's going to be fun what
1:53:27
we're going to be doing. We'd love to help kids.
1:53:29
Christmas, Thanksgiving, all the holidays are right around the
1:53:32
corner. This is this is a great time to
1:53:34
really put out our product center stage for all the fans to
1:53:38
get to know us and get to know what we want to do to help other
1:53:41
people and, and so many different people out there that
1:53:44
need our help and, and need people's help.
1:53:46
So I'm interested to see what we can do in the long run.
1:53:51
It was cool. I mean, it's right up my alley,
1:53:52
really. I mean, that's the only thing
1:53:54
I've ever known, you know, loading, loading scooters, doing
1:53:57
stuff like that. So, yeah, it was really cool
1:53:59
having him on, like his perspective and obviously, you
1:54:01
know him, you know, doing what he's done.
1:54:04
And, you know, it's exciting for me to see people doing this
1:54:07
because for me, it was, for me, it was normal, you know, And I
1:54:11
know normal's not a word, but for me, that's all I ever knew.
1:54:14
I don't even know what the word normal.
1:54:15
I don't. Think any different layers.
1:54:17
Being normal. I mean, people look at me and
1:54:19
they're like, oh, there he is. I mean, when I walk through the
1:54:22
hospital every single day, people are like trying to use
1:54:25
their binoculars and try to send them, send me away to another
1:54:27
room. So that's not that's not a lie,
1:54:29
ladies and gentlemen, that is true.
1:54:31
True story. But yeah, I would like to thank
1:54:34
Tony for joining us. It was a great interview and I
1:54:36
just like to hear what he has to say and what he's doing.
1:54:39
By the way, Joplin, you know what's not normal?
1:54:41
You not wearing glasses tonight. That my friend.
1:54:45
I was running everywhere. There's limbs everywhere, so I
1:54:49
was like, I wasn't wearing my glasses.
1:54:50
I wouldn't work it out. I'm completely like I.
1:54:54
I my eyes are getting dry right now so probably next sportsman.
1:54:57
I'm sure you were trying to cry or something.
1:54:59
I think you were trying to. Cry.
1:55:00
No. Not yet, no.
1:55:02
I just want to let everybody know we do have another guest
1:55:04
and a little bit in in just a little while, we would be
1:55:07
talking to Bob Rathbin. He actually is the lead
1:55:10
broadcaster for the Atlanta Hawks, the Atlanta Dream, and
1:55:14
does a lot of college and football, basketball stuff, so.
1:55:17
Also used to be. Also used to be with the Braves
1:55:18
Java. Yes, Hall of Famer, by the way.
1:55:21
Play by play guy. So Bob will be joining us.
1:55:24
I didn't say that in the beginning because I wanted to
1:55:25
surprise people. But yes, we have another guest
1:55:28
lined up for you guys. It's going to be fun.
1:55:31
I'm sure he's his interest to Kristaps Porzingis as he is a
1:55:35
new hawk and Trey Young, who I can't I can't stand.
1:55:38
So you're. Still like a bother.
1:55:40
Kristaps absolutely. I can't stand both of them, so
1:55:43
it's two players I can't stand on one team.
1:55:46
So anyways, we call the next segment Speedy 6 Pack.
1:55:51
Let's have a sixer. Hey, who wants to play Drink the
1:55:54
Beer? It's time for the Speedy 6 pack
1:55:56
of the week. He tastes himself.
1:56:01
Well, before we get to the six pack today, we have some picks
1:56:04
from West, courtesy of the. Like.
1:56:06
He usually does. He's got tomorrow night Winnipeg
1:56:09
covering -6 1/2 at home against the Ottawa Red Blacks.
1:56:13
Friday night, 9:00 on the road. He's got Toronto covering
1:56:17
against. Edwin.
1:56:19
On Saturday, he's got Saskatchewan Chaz favorite team.
1:56:23
Bagel. -3 against Hamilton and then.
1:56:26
Blinking and. The night game on Saturday -3
1:56:29
1/2 against Montreal. Droba Smack Magas Droba.
1:56:34
Hey, Speedy Droba. Before we get.
1:56:35
Started. I know you told me we don't have
1:56:38
any Travis Hunter stuff, but I wanted to follow up on a story
1:56:41
we had about Travis Hunter loving wanting to be called the
1:56:44
Unicorn. We got a live shot earlier in
1:56:48
the day. Let's not.
1:56:49
Of Travis Hunter the Unicorn. Oh my goodness.
1:56:54
Image right there created by Grok.
1:56:58
Oh my God, Are you telling me that that guy looks like that?
1:57:02
I mean, could you imagine? First of all, he.
1:57:04
Is that's a. That's good, by the way.
1:57:06
That is really good. I asked it to combine a regular
1:57:10
picture of him holding a football with a Unicorn and the
1:57:14
gremlin from the movie and it did a great job.
1:57:17
That's an impressive job by AII. Got when when I see him again,
1:57:21
and it will be a time that I actually see Travis again.
1:57:24
I saw him at the the Heisman Trophy awards.
1:57:27
When I see Travis again, I'm going to say stop calling
1:57:29
yourself the Unicorn. You're the gremlin.
1:57:31
All right, You're the gremlin. I'm actually going to get this
1:57:34
picture. I'm going to say here, I got a
1:57:36
picture of you gremlin style baby.
1:57:38
You want to be a Unicorn? We'll just put it together and
1:57:40
you could be a My Little Pony gremlin.
1:57:43
There you go. Because that's what it looks
1:57:44
like, My Little Pony with a little gremlin and, you know, a
1:57:46
little gremlin. Take on that one.
1:57:49
You ready? All right, all right, here we
1:57:51
go. Number six.
1:57:52
All right. We'll start with I never heard
1:57:54
Travis Kelsey in honor of Taylor Swift being on his podcast
1:57:57
tonight. He claims that production
1:57:59
somebody slipped the last two years because of entertainment
1:58:01
value. He hasn't had 1000 yard seasons
1:58:03
since dating Taylor Swift. Not me, 2023.
1:58:07
Thoughts. Travis Kelsey making excuses.
1:58:12
Come on, hold the excuses. You haven't played well for one
1:58:16
reason. You put on weight.
1:58:18
And here's another thing. The fact is, you don't care
1:58:21
anymore. You won your Super Bowls.
1:58:23
You made your money. You're buying and opening up
1:58:26
restaurants with Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City, buying real
1:58:30
estate and sleeping with Taylor Swift, Who's better than you?
1:58:33
Oh, and by the way, just made $100 million off your podcast.
1:58:38
I don't know why you're still playing football.
1:58:41
Making excuses only tells me one thing.
1:58:45
It tells me that you're finding ways to cry about something that
1:58:47
means nothing. You shouldn't be playing.
1:58:50
You shouldn't be playing professional football anymore.
1:58:52
And the NFL is going to tell you that this year when you don't
1:58:55
even put up 800 yards. Travis Kelce is done, ladies and
1:58:59
gentlemen. Put up fork in him.
1:59:01
You didn't like his GQ photo shoot?
1:59:03
No, dude, first of all, he put on a lot of weight that, that
1:59:09
mustache. You look, I don't know what he's
1:59:10
trying to do right now. His look is just completely off.
1:59:15
And I even on, you know, Happy Gilmore, everybody said he was
1:59:18
funny. I didn't find him to be very
1:59:20
funny at all. I mean, I, I just, I, I'm not a
1:59:23
big Travis Kelsey fan. And ever since he started dating
1:59:26
Taylor Swift, I can't stand him even more.
1:59:28
I, I, I he's a Swifty. Anybody's a Swifty.
1:59:31
I can't. I'd be a Swifty too if I got 1.3
1:59:35
million people to watch my Taylor Swift episode which he
1:59:39
paid within one hour of them releasing it today.
1:59:43
Don't want to? Be crazy speedy. #5.
1:59:47
James Cook gets paid by the Bills today.
1:59:49
Four years, 48 million dollars, $30 million guaranteed. 8th in
1:59:53
yards per carry, 12th in rushing yards and 6th in touchdown since
1:59:56
the Bills fired Ken Dorsey and hired Joe Brady in 23.
1:59:59
How about handing him the ball in an AFC title game?
2:00:03
How about that? How about in the fourth quarter
2:00:05
when you were absolutely killing them, and I'm talking about
2:00:09
Kansas City, Why weren't you handing it to James Cook and now
2:00:12
you're paying him? You better start handing him the
2:00:15
ball in the big games because to me, it was absolutely
2:00:17
embarrassing in Buffalo right now.
2:00:19
This year has a chance to go to the Super Bowl.
2:00:22
They had a chance last year. I think they're even better than
2:00:24
they were last year with some of the the acquisitions they made
2:00:27
in the offseason. They're better defensive team.
2:00:29
They have a better. Federal offensive line, I think
2:00:31
they have they've built it. They built their team around the
2:00:34
trenches where you're going and and very well coached team.
2:00:37
So I, I, Josh Allen's actually married now.
2:00:40
So a lot to prove with marriage and he's getting it.
2:00:44
By the way, is anybody watching Hard Knocks?
2:00:46
Yeah, I was going to say Errol, I've, I just watched the second
2:00:49
episode before we started that. Not only is it good they they've
2:00:54
never really featured a good team on Hard Knocks or a team
2:00:57
that was going to be good that year.
2:00:58
It's always controversy. Yeah, it's good.
2:01:00
It's they look awesome and they didn't play great, But I'll tell
2:01:05
you what, I I didn't expect Sean McDermott to come off as good as
2:01:08
he has so far. He he seems like the real.
2:01:10
Deal Everything that I've read about Sean McDermott is he's a
2:01:14
player's coach. He comes off being, you know, on
2:01:17
the football field mean but outside of the game of football,
2:01:21
very connected to his players. And you can see that at a Hard
2:01:24
Knocks. He has a lot of love for his
2:01:26
guys. He's a father figure to his guys
2:01:28
and I I love what I see with Sean McDermott.
2:01:31
I think this is a great opportunity to see one of the
2:01:34
best other teams in the NFL really develop into that Super
2:01:37
Bowl contender. So it's been fun.
2:01:39
The first two episodes have been really, really good.
2:01:42
I haven't seen, I haven't seen the second one.
2:01:43
Is it good? Yeah, it's good.
2:01:44
They focus on the guy who made their team last year.
2:01:47
That's a local kid and they call him Buffalo Joe.
2:01:50
He's a linebacker, Joe. Pretty cool, Speedy. #4 all.
2:01:54
Right, kind of a more silly 1. So Odell Beckham allegedly
2:01:57
retired and now comes out to today and says he's not retired.
2:02:00
All these things are a fake. And I mean, is he really?
2:02:05
Is he retired or not? He just had 580 yards since his
2:02:07
injury in the Super Bowl. So he's pretty much retired at
2:02:10
this point. But what are your thoughts?
2:02:11
Odell, he's a pretty boy. He likes to go to card shows.
2:02:16
I've seen him over there playing poker.
2:02:18
We were in my, I'm sorry, we were in Louisiana.
2:02:21
We saw him jump into his car. He's all over to place Odell.
2:02:25
He really is. And he loses his ring in a, you
2:02:28
know, pond. What was it a 2 point $2.5
2:02:31
million ring or whatever it cost?
2:02:34
I mean the guy. Oh, and by the way, getting on
2:02:35
his hands and knees and praying to a net.
2:02:37
I mean the guy pissing on logos. I mean this guy's full of
2:02:41
antics. I, I think the game is past
2:02:44
them. I think he's a great
2:02:46
personality. I would have liked to see him in
2:02:48
Happy Gilmore town. I I would have liked to see him
2:02:51
in a movie. I dated Kardashian hanging out
2:02:54
and smoking trees and doing whatever he's doing.
2:02:58
Maybe he's hanging out with Stefan Digs in the offseason.
2:03:01
I have no idea. Was he one of the guys on the
2:03:03
boat? Yes.
2:03:04
He was absolutely one of the guys on the.
2:03:06
Boat the entire receiver and corner.
2:03:08
Room him and Bieber bus buzz Him and Bieber best buzz with P
2:03:12
Diddy the old Didster the diddler.
2:03:14
Not a real question since Generous Jenkins was on the
2:03:17
boat. Were there any dead bodies we
2:03:19
don't know about? Oh boy.
2:03:21
Here's the boat for you. Just they basically were
2:03:26
terrible for a decade after that picture.
2:03:28
Chicks with Dicks. Just the curse of this picture
2:03:31
is just we're still trying to get out for jeans.
2:03:33
Stick a finger in his ass. Let's move on, Speedy.
2:03:35
Hold on, but by the way that picture, did you notice like
2:03:38
half of them are wearing jeans? Dude, it's, it's a bunch of wild
2:03:43
fits here going on as well. Like, yeah, I'm just going to
2:03:47
pose like I'm an Abercrombie. Who?
2:03:49
The hell is at the end of the boat looking like he's about to
2:03:52
jerk off of something. I mean seriously, look at them
2:03:55
with. The standing up.
2:03:56
That's Sterling Shepherd. No, not standing up on the
2:03:59
bottom. The last guy on the bottom left?
2:04:01
Who's that? That I don't know.
2:04:05
I don't. It's to me.
2:04:07
How about the random chicks just in the back with like a drink in
2:04:10
her phone? Yeah, that's Haley.
2:04:12
That's Haley. I'm.
2:04:15
Going to get myself a let's hope.
2:04:17
Let's hope Odell goes to the right types of parties, not the
2:04:20
one with the Music Man that's now in some legal trouble.
2:04:23
You want to jerking off? #3.
2:04:27
I got to go back off a major. Injury is returning, the 49ers
2:04:30
say Brandon IU Week 6 return for him.
2:04:33
How much will that slow the 49ers in the beginning of the
2:04:35
season? I got news for you guys.
2:04:40
The 49ers done Kyle Shanahan done Robert Bambi Sala done that
2:04:47
organization done making the playoffs is a no no.
2:04:51
There's no way that team's making the playoffs this year.
2:04:54
I unless Christian McCaffrey goes crazy this year and breaks
2:04:58
records, I do not see that team. They don't have they depot's not
2:05:02
there. George Kittle just got an
2:05:04
extension. I George Kittle is not the same
2:05:06
George Kittle. He had a good year last year.
2:05:09
I don't expect him to put up the numbers that he put up last
2:05:11
year. And and they have no wide
2:05:13
receivers. There's not a number one on this
2:05:16
team. They're number twos.
2:05:18
There's not number ones. You know what this reminds me of
2:05:21
the New England Patriots. That's what it reminds me of an
2:05:25
absolute debacle. And by the way, Brock pretty
2:05:27
just got a lot of money. Good luck on that.
2:05:29
Who's he throwing the ball to? And the offensive line, a bunch
2:05:33
of old guys. They got one young guy on that
2:05:35
offensive line. What a joke.
2:05:37
Kyle Shanahan. You better be looking for a new
2:05:39
job because it's not going to last over there.
2:05:40
And where's Owen when you need them?
2:05:42
Where's Owen? Where's that dress?
2:05:44
So a withdrawal of the Frock Purdy contract?
2:05:47
I want to see that dress. I I definitely got to see him in
2:05:50
that dress. First of all, Job, have you
2:05:52
spoken to Owen? How is Owen?
2:05:55
All the time. Yeah.
2:05:55
They. Yeah.
2:05:58
Just got a just got back. And then his dog just had a
2:06:02
surgery on its eye. Actually, he just got.
2:06:05
Yeah, like, I'll know what it was.
2:06:07
It wasn't like a cherry eye, but it's like, it was like a sack
2:06:11
that like, grew up into like the eye.
2:06:13
Oh. Man.
2:06:13
And like so they had to cut out like the whole like membrane
2:06:17
like into into her eye job. Some breeds of dogs have trouble
2:06:22
with the eyes. It's.
2:06:23
Just a thing. It's a Cane Corso.
2:06:25
British Bulldogs have that too. But Jabba, tell Owen I reached
2:06:29
out to him. I hope everything's OK.
2:06:31
I wanted to make sure that everything is good and and
2:06:34
hopefully soon we can get him on and have a little conversation
2:06:38
about his boring 49ers. Yeah.
2:06:40
Oh yeah. #2. That's funny, Nathan just
2:06:43
brought up the Giants and Jets training camp in the private
2:06:45
chat. They have the joy practices.
2:06:47
Russell Wilson and Justin Fields says they talk all the time.
2:06:50
Allegedly no ill will with them despite their quarterback
2:06:52
battles in in Pittsburgh, reuniting and joint practices
2:06:56
now in different teams. What are your thoughts of both
2:06:58
of these two? Q BS.
2:06:59
Oh my God, First of all, Justin Fields looks great.
2:07:02
I love what Justin Fields is saying at practices.
2:07:05
He's going out there. He feels good about himself.
2:07:08
I think obviously the coaching staff is working with him,
2:07:11
something that Justin Fields never got.
2:07:13
Aaron Glenn has been so good for his his personality and his
2:07:18
growth. I I think that's something that
2:07:21
Justin Fields has been craving for since he was a first round
2:07:24
draft pick. I think he's going to fit very,
2:07:26
very well with the New York Jets.
2:07:28
I think The Jets have something there and Aaron Glenn, just his
2:07:31
press conferences just explain a little bit more about he who he
2:07:35
is as a personality and something what Robert Sala
2:07:38
wasn't, by the way, with no whistles at practice and being
2:07:41
an absolute Jackass. So thank God Bambi is gone.
2:07:44
As far as the one and only Aaron Rodgers.
2:07:47
Well, there's a lot to talk about when it comes to him.
2:07:50
The only thing I could say is he's married to his hand named
2:07:52
Brittany. That's about it.
2:07:54
I still, I've not seen a picture of his his wife, nobody knows
2:07:58
besides her first name, which is kind of fishy to me.
2:08:02
Mike Tomlin. Love his press conferences, by
2:08:04
the way. Oh, Aaron's been great, Blah,
2:08:06
blah, blah, blah, blah. He's good with the players.
2:08:08
He's good with the line. Yeah.
2:08:10
What? How many Dicks are you sucking?
2:08:13
OK, Mike, please. I mean, seriously, I am so tired
2:08:17
of hearing of Aaron, Aaron Rodgers and his name.
2:08:20
And I, I don't usually lose use words like that on the show, but
2:08:24
the fact fact is Aaron Rodgers is a complete joke.
2:08:27
He absolutely hurt the growth to some of the young players with
2:08:31
the New York Jets. And what do you think he's going
2:08:33
to do over there with the Pittsburgh Steelers with the
2:08:35
young talent that they have over there?
2:08:37
Well, Mike Tomlin is going to be looking for a new job in the
2:08:39
offseason. They're not making the playoffs.
2:08:41
That team is not making the playoffs a joke.
2:08:44
No, that's about it. The only thing I like is walk
2:08:46
out his contract. I love that kid, love everything
2:08:48
about him. I love his training.
2:08:50
Has anybody go checked out his workouts on YouTube?
2:08:53
That guy is an absolute beast. Go check out his workout plan on
2:08:58
YouTube. I, I, I don't, I'm a workout
2:09:02
phenomenon. I don't think I could do half
2:09:04
the stuff that he is doing right now.
2:09:06
So. Like James Harrison asked.
2:09:08
Or what? Work.
2:09:10
Even crazier stuff. Even crazier stuff.
2:09:13
I'm telling you. Even crazier stuff that's.
2:09:16
Bo Jackson would carry like a moose on his shoulders over him,
2:09:19
dude. That's how dude worked out.
2:09:21
What is doing push ups like? Like a handstand Doing handstand
2:09:26
push ups at his side handstand. Push ups.
2:09:28
Out of his side. Some P90X type stuff back in the
2:09:32
day. At his size, I mean, I'm talking
2:09:34
about it's crazy. It's about 265 lbs of muscle and
2:09:38
he's doing that like, like I think he was doing it like 2530
2:09:41
times. It's ridiculous.
2:09:42
It's. Ridiculous.
2:09:43
All right, Speedy, let's bring it home.
2:09:44
Number one I'll make. It quick as our guess is in too.
2:09:47
It's funny. It's about Aaron Rodgers now.
2:09:48
He says the new helmets are like spaceships, fish.
2:09:51
There's probably a potential future graphic for that, but
2:09:54
that's the Aaron Rodgers complaining about helmets.
2:09:56
What else is he going to complain about?
2:09:58
The cups that they're wearing now or the cups that he doesn't
2:10:01
wear as we know the story over there in Green Bay, two years
2:10:05
into his career when he was caught rolling around without a
2:10:10
cup on. I mean, Aaron's going to
2:10:12
complain about something. He's going to say something,
2:10:14
he's going to complain about something.
2:10:16
And it's only going to get worse as the season progressively
2:10:18
moves forward. The guy's a Jackass.
2:10:20
Love him as a player. 10 years of his career was just
2:10:23
absolutely extraordinary. I just don't think that this guy
2:10:26
should be speaking. I think it's just a zipper, his
2:10:28
mouth and play football or host Jeopardy or something.
2:10:32
I don't want to hear his big mouth anymore.
2:10:35
Some of the stuff he believes I I thought that he wanted to be
2:10:38
beamed up anyway with this spaceship.
2:10:40
That guy's kind of wild and out there speedy nice six pack.
2:10:44
Make sure you recycle. All right, so we have a new
2:10:48
segment, ladies and gentlemen. I think Mr. Bob Rathbin is going
2:10:51
to like this. He's a little bit older, so I
2:10:53
think he's going to like this. We call this in like Flynn.
2:10:58
My lady, I've often heard that you'd.
2:10:59
Give me a warm welcome if ever we met again.
2:11:04
In like flan flan flan. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, So I
2:11:11
we've been kind of figuring out what we were going to talk about
2:11:14
for the first segment of in like Flynn.
2:11:17
And what we're going to do with this is pretty simple.
2:11:21
I'm going to give you, I'm going to give a topic and I'm going to
2:11:24
go through it my top ten and I'm going to tell you if it's in or
2:11:27
it's out. So here we go.
2:11:30
So I read today a ranking for sports stadiums and ballparks,
2:11:37
NFLMLBNBA stadiums and ballparks.
2:11:40
I've got the top ten right here. I'm going to tell you if I'm in
2:11:44
with going to check them out or out because I don't want to go
2:11:47
and check them out because they're probably terrible
2:11:49
stadiums. All right, you guys ready?
2:11:52
Lambeau Field is number one on the list.
2:11:59
I'm going to say I'm in on check in Lambeau Field.
2:12:02
I want to see those naked guys in the audience wearing no
2:12:05
shirts, dancing and prancing around in the playoffs when it's
2:12:08
below 0. It's interesting to me to go and
2:12:10
check out the wonderful stadium of Lambeau Field, PNC Park.
2:12:18
I've been to PNC Park Pittsburgh, one of the nicest
2:12:21
parks in baseball right now. I don't think, and Jabba will
2:12:25
will say that. I think everybody would tell you
2:12:27
PNC Park is one of the best parks.
2:12:29
So I'm going to give that thumbs up.
2:12:32
They're in all right. The next one, Camden Yards,
2:12:37
Baltimore #3 that would be a no for me.
2:12:40
Ladies and gentlemen, Baltimore, disgusting place to be.
2:12:45
I hate Baltimore, MD. I do like that it's built right
2:12:50
by the water. But to me, I, I don't want to
2:12:52
see home runs getting smacked out of the stadium.
2:12:55
I mean, when you hear Gleber Torres hitting nineteen home
2:12:58
runs in a season tells me one thing.
2:13:00
It's just it's not a stadium I want to go and check out.
2:13:03
Oracle Park, ladies and gentlemen, is number.
2:13:06
I'm sorry. No, not Oracle Park.
2:13:07
Butch, is that Busch Stadium? Busch Stadium, Saint Louis.
2:13:13
I'm absolutely in on the stadium.
2:13:15
I always wanted to see Albert pool holes play over there with
2:13:19
Saint Louis when they were at the top of their game and when
2:13:22
they won their World Series over there and when he was the best
2:13:25
bright handed hitter in baseball.
2:13:27
So I'm going to put two thumbs up.
2:13:29
I'm in. All right, right, Oracle park #5
2:13:33
San Francisco, the house that yes, Barry Bonds built.
2:13:39
The answer would be absolutely yes.
2:13:43
I'm going to say yes. I, I love the the boats.
2:13:46
I love the home runs going into the water.
2:13:48
I would love the opportunity to go swim and go grab myself a
2:13:52
nice home run ball. All right, number six, Mr.
2:13:59
Seattle, Lumnin Lumen fields. I'm trying to get it because
2:14:04
it's a little small over here and I'm trying to bring it up
2:14:06
over here because I got a list over here and it's very, very
2:14:09
small. Lumen Fields, Seattle.
2:14:11
I love Seattle. Anybody go to Seattle?
2:14:14
It is fantastic over there, Beautiful city, rainy.
2:14:18
The answer would be no thumbs down.
2:14:20
I'm not going to Seattle. It's garbage.
2:14:23
It's rainy. I'm not going Fenway Park #7
2:14:27
been to Fenway, can't stand the Boston people call me the Green
2:14:32
Monster. I'm not heading over there.
2:14:34
I'm not going there ever again. My answer is no thumbs down.
2:14:39
Wrigley Field, Never been there. That's number eight.
2:14:42
An absolute thumbs up. I would love to go check out
2:14:45
Wrigley Field. It's a beautiful stadium. 1 of
2:14:48
the oldest stadiums right now in professional baseball.
2:14:51
Love to go and check that out. Target Field, Minnesota.
2:14:56
There's nothing to do in Minnesota.
2:14:58
It's cold, it's damp. I I've been there before.
2:15:03
I've never been to their new stadium.
2:15:05
It sounds like a beautiful stadium.
2:15:06
The answer would be an absolute no for me and let's go
2:15:14
Progressive Field, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to just go
2:15:17
with Progressive Field. And the answer would be an
2:15:20
absolute no. So there you go.
2:15:23
That, ladies and gentlemen, is in Mike Flynn and I, I will say
2:15:27
this, Lambeau Fields is a place I want to see PNC Park.
2:15:31
I was there. Camden Yards, get away.
2:15:33
I, I would love to go and check out Busch Stadium one day in my
2:15:37
life. And Wrigley Field.
2:15:39
Out of all those that list, those are the stadiums I go
2:15:42
check out. And by the way, Jabba, you've
2:15:43
been to half these places. You've been to Camden Yards,
2:15:46
You've been to Bush. I've been to all of them.
2:15:49
Oh, you really? You've been to Lambo too?
2:15:51
Really. Yeah, the yeah.
2:15:54
And then the only stadium in baseball I didn't.
2:15:57
Obviously the new Braves is the only one I hadn't I didn't play
2:16:02
in. Dude the list is crazy.
2:16:03
They gave the top 100 stadiums. You know where MetLife is on the
2:16:07
list, guys. The. 70s. 61. 6 So 61 out of
2:16:14
what? 190 Ninety stadiums guess the.
2:16:18
Bottom third. Guess who has the worst out of
2:16:20
all the stadiums? Worst.
2:16:22
Stadium Tropicana Fields. Go ahead.
2:16:25
What sport? Football.
2:16:26
Football. Wow.
2:16:28
Not Tropicana Field. I would say Tropicana Field for
2:16:31
sure. What did you say?
2:16:33
Washington? Washington Commander Fields.
2:16:35
Yep. Do you know second?
2:16:39
I was going to say the Raiders, but they're not there anymore.
2:16:40
They they were pretty pretty worn down for.
2:16:43
A while Oakland. I'm just going to keep saying
2:16:44
Tropicana fields. Oaklando.co Yeah, those are the
2:16:49
I love pitching there. So.
2:16:52
No one, no one, no one plays there though anymore, right?
2:16:54
No. No, no, no those.
2:16:56
Are now it's not. If you go to likemlb.com instead
2:17:00
of like saying like Oakland, it just says Athletics.
2:17:04
It doesn't say anything else. You know where Yankee Stadium
2:17:07
is. I'm going to go.
2:17:11
Top same middle like dead middle.
2:17:13
No, I'm going to go 2029. Say 48. 42.
2:17:19
Speedy, how about you scoops? I'm going to go around job.
2:17:23
I'm going to say 30 flat. That's you've got both close 37
2:17:27
Yankee Stadium 37. So there you go.
2:17:30
Top half. Top half.
2:17:32
Yeah, what's the, what's the what's #1?
2:17:34
Number one is Lambeau Field. Do you know where the Mets Citi
2:17:36
Field is? Should be pretty high.
2:17:38
They're higher, I would say like 21.
2:17:40
The speedier, almost dead. 21 Blackjack for real.
2:17:44
He's almost dead. Yeah, almost dead, Right?
2:17:46
Almost. 2020, 3/20/2020. City Field Stadium.
2:17:52
Good stadium. And these are all voted by all
2:17:55
the media guys that obviously work in the media world.
2:17:58
So and I was looking at it, I wanted to figure out what we're
2:18:01
going to do in like Flynn. So I'm going to go thumbs up,
2:18:04
thumbs down, in or out. So I those are the the top 10
2:18:08
stadiums of professional sports right now.
2:18:12
What's your favorite stadium you've been to already?
2:18:14
My favorite stadium. My favorite stadium, Wembley
2:18:22
Stadium. Wembley was the the coolest
2:18:27
stadium, first of all, the biggest I've ever been to.
2:18:30
I mean, it's crazy and. I I still say old Yankee Stadium
2:18:34
was awesome. So I actually got a chance to DJ
2:18:38
at Wembley Stadium. That was the first time I got a
2:18:40
chance to see Wembley Stadium. That was where Queen and all
2:18:43
the, you know, The Beatles, they all got a chance to play over
2:18:46
there and I actually had a chance to play at Wembley as a.
2:18:50
Is it like 120,000 or something that could?
2:18:53
Fit more than that crazy more than that 90,000 when it comes
2:18:56
to seats, but. On for a concert.
2:18:59
On a concert you could fit over 100,000 people in there.
2:19:02
Easy. I think it can get to like 150
2:19:03
or something. Place was packed.
2:19:05
Out if you pack it out. Oh my God.
2:19:06
Cool. Yeah, globally they love their
2:19:09
house music. So that place packed out for
2:19:12
like a full week and they were, we were doing concerts for like
2:19:15
12 hours. It was ridiculous.
2:19:18
And people would stay. People would stay the whole time
2:19:21
and party and get effed up. So it was crazy.
2:19:24
It was some of it was like Woodstock of house music and it
2:19:27
was just crazy. It was like every day there was
2:19:30
like 20 different DJs that were going up there spending house
2:19:33
music. It was absolutely enormous, it
2:19:36
was. The record was 126,000 people,
2:19:40
Yeah. It's a lot of people hold a lot
2:19:42
of. People holds a lot of people.
2:19:43
I it was it was something that you, you, you could only imagine
2:19:47
experience seeing and I can't explain it.
2:19:50
The people and the craziness over there when it comes to
2:19:53
house music. It's really remarkable.
2:19:55
It really is. Anyways, we have a guest
2:19:57
waiting. Let's go to a quick break.
2:19:58
When we come back, we're going to have a very special guest.
2:20:01
We will be talking to a Hall of Famer play by play broadcaster,
2:20:04
Bob Rathbin. Bob Rathbin, broadcaster of the
2:20:08
Atlanta Hawks Atlanta Dream and does both college football and
2:20:12
basketball. But first, our sports minute
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Got a few more stories here before we get to the scores.
2:20:29
Don't insult the woman's cookies to their husband.
2:20:32
That's the lesson learned by all attending the most recent South
2:20:35
Carolina football press conference.
2:20:38
Head coach Shane Beamer, son of longtime Virginia Tech coach,
2:20:41
got on the mic and vehemently defended his wifes chocolate
2:20:46
chip cookies to the press. I do have a statement to make,
2:20:49
Beamer said. I think my wife is getting some
2:20:52
undue criticism for the cookie she makes.
2:20:54
That's an episode 5 I believe. She's actually had people set
2:20:58
that have reached out to her on Netflix telling her that she's
2:21:01
not cooking the cookies long enough.
2:21:04
Much respect for the people that took the time to reach out to
2:21:07
her to criticize her for her cookies, but the cookies are the
2:21:10
freaking bomb. Just so you guys know, I've got
2:21:13
my girls back. To the people who reached out to
2:21:16
her on Instagram to criticize her and tell her that she she
2:21:18
isn't cooking them long enough. Come up here on a Thursday after
2:21:22
practice when I put those cookies out and see how fast
2:21:24
they are devoured and gone because they are gone in about 5
2:21:28
minutes. Reach out to any tight end from
2:21:30
the University of Oklahoma from 20 to 18 to 2020 or Georgia
2:21:34
tight ends in 16 and 17 or any Virginia Tech running back if
2:21:37
you want to ask about the cookies.
2:21:40
I got her back. I'll say that the cookies are
2:21:42
awesome. She is cooking them the right
2:21:45
way. The docu series of the center of
2:21:48
the cookie controversy is the SEC Football Any Given Saturday,
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and it's currently available on Netflix.
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Just don't hate on some gooey cookies while you're watching.
2:21:57
And finally, we have Fresno State University naming their
2:22:01
starting quarterback for the 2025 season, and it is a
2:22:05
familiar name. Warner.
2:22:06
Yes, EJ Warner, the son of Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt Warner,
2:22:10
won the job at the California school this offseason.
2:22:13
Warner, who started 31 games the past three years at Temple and
2:22:17
Rice, transferred to Fresno State this offseason and will
2:22:20
now build on his FBS leading 88114 passing yards in that
2:22:25
time. His famous father was ecstatic
2:22:27
on social media for the announcement.
2:22:29
So proud of this young man. Just keeps proving who he is. 1
2:22:33
scholarship out of high school. No Power 5 school would give him
2:22:35
a chance then or since. Has had to earn starting spot
2:22:40
everywhere he's been and now heads into a senior season #1 in
2:22:43
FBS in passing yards and pass yards per game at 275.
2:22:48
Not done yet. Let's go dogs.
2:22:51
DJ Warner will be the starter when the Bulldogs open in the
2:22:53
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Bob Rathbin. Bob, what's up, buddy?
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Hey guys, it's good to be with you.
2:25:12
How are you all? We're good, man.
2:25:14
I mean, obviously you're doing better than we are.
2:25:16
I mean, how many sports are you broadcasting right now being a
2:25:20
play by play guy? You're doing football, you're
2:25:22
doing basketball, college basketball, you're doing NBA
2:25:26
basketball, you're doing WNBA basketball.
2:25:29
Who's better than you? Bob, it's a very short list.
2:25:34
No, I'm just kidding. Listen, I've been doing this
2:25:37
since I was 12 years old and I was on the air full time when I
2:25:42
was 19. I would not know how to get
2:25:44
another job. So I'm very fortunate that it
2:25:47
all worked out. It definitely has.
2:25:49
I mean, you're a Hall of Famer. How many Hall of Famers are
2:25:52
there in broadcasting? Not many of them, especially
2:25:55
play by play guys. So it's pretty incredible.
2:25:58
We have one of them on the show. We've interviewed a lot of them.
2:26:00
Speedy has got a lot of Hall of Famers on our show.
2:26:04
I'm intrigued to hear what you got to say about your Atlanta
2:26:06
Hawks because I can't stand two players on that roster right
2:26:11
now. One of them that was just traded
2:26:14
to your team. And Chris tops.
2:26:15
Poor singers, but one that every single time he comes to Madison
2:26:20
Square Garden, he has interesting things to say about
2:26:24
the fans. The one and only Trey Young.
2:26:26
Your thoughts to two guys that I can't stand.
2:26:31
Well, I've got to get to know Porzingis.
2:26:34
I, I only know him from afar. He's played against this with
2:26:37
about 10 different teams, so it's going to be fun to have him
2:26:40
on the Hawks. But of course, everybody's
2:26:43
favorite villain is Troy Young. You love to hate because of all
2:26:47
of his antics, but I tell you what, in the history of NBA,
2:26:51
there are very few people at his size who've been able to do what
2:26:56
he has done. You know, three times he's led
2:26:59
the league in total assists. He led the league in average
2:27:01
assists last year. And this guy's, you know, barely
2:27:04
6 feet tall and weighs 180 lbs silk and wet.
2:27:08
And for him to do that in the land of the Giants is is pretty
2:27:11
remarkable. You know, it's it, but it is I
2:27:14
must say it is a big year for Trey because it's he does not
2:27:18
have an extension on his on his contract yet.
2:27:22
It could happen, but I think they're going to play out the
2:27:24
year and they've surrounded him with a really good team and I
2:27:28
think it's up to Trey now to make it into a playoff team and
2:27:33
a team that could maybe finish in the top four in the Eastern
2:27:36
Conference this year. So I think he's got a lot of
2:27:38
pressure on his shoulders. So in your time broadcast at the
2:27:41
Atlanta Hawks, they actually had the longest playoff streak in
2:27:44
the NBA for a while too, with the guys like Kyle Korver, Jeff
2:27:47
Teague, Al Horford was a younger player.
2:27:48
What was it like? Broadcast got a lot of those
2:27:50
players and a lot of the they didn't make the NBA Finals, but
2:27:53
good playoff runs that they had. They did.
2:27:56
It was a lot of fun. I think the sixty win team that
2:27:58
we had, what was it 10 years ago, something like that was was
2:28:03
so exciting because it it just kind of came together.
2:28:07
We were a 500 ball club around Thanksgiving and just caught
2:28:10
fire all of a sudden and did something that no team and NBA
2:28:14
history has ever done and I doubt we'll ever do again.
2:28:17
And that was to play the entire month of January and go
2:28:20
unbeaten. That's that.
2:28:22
It's unheard of. And this team did it.
2:28:25
They won 19 straight games at one point, which, you know,
2:28:28
that's basically a quarter of your entire 82 game schedule.
2:28:32
So it was a pretty remarkable run.
2:28:35
And I swear, if we could have stayed healthy.
2:28:38
And how many times have you heard that in the last 10 years?
2:28:40
As a Nick fan forever. If, if, yeah, if you, if we
2:28:44
could have stayed healthy, I really think we're going to go
2:28:46
to the finals. I don't know that we would have
2:28:47
beaten Golden State, but I think we would have beaten Cleveland.
2:28:50
We sort of had their number, but by the time we got to the
2:28:53
Eastern Conference Finals, we were gassed and half the guys
2:28:57
were banged up and we couldn't pull it off.
2:28:59
But it was a remarkable run. It turned the city on fire.
2:29:02
And you know, our our sports history down here in Atlanta is
2:29:05
not the best. We've come close with several of
2:29:09
our teams. The Braves have broken through a
2:29:10
couple of times, but overall that's more heartbreak than
2:29:13
anything else. But that was our year is a lot
2:29:15
of fun. Yeah, Bob, as you like look back
2:29:19
on your career, which you know spans decades and and not many
2:29:23
people can say that is, is there one moment where we all have
2:29:28
that I've made it moment and for somebody that's done it as long
2:29:31
as you have, what was what was that like?
2:29:34
First one where you like, you know what, I belong here and and
2:29:37
I think I could do this for a long time.
2:29:40
Oh boy, that's a great question. I, I think probably going from
2:29:47
my hometown, a small town in North Carolina to go to work in
2:29:53
Norfolk, VA. And it doesn't sound like that
2:29:55
big of a leap. But when you're a young, when
2:29:58
you're a young guy just starting off and all of a sudden you're
2:30:01
in a Top 40 market and you're on radio and TV and you're calling
2:30:06
football, basketball, AAA baseball.
2:30:10
I was there at the start of the regional Sports Network when
2:30:14
when all that sort of came into existence in the 80s and to do
2:30:18
Orioles games and Bullets games and stuff like that.
2:30:22
Now that might not move the needle for anybody else, but it,
2:30:25
it really did make me that that feeling you're talking about,
2:30:28
which is, hey, you've arrived. You, you've got enough talent to
2:30:32
do this. Now it's a matter of getting
2:30:35
better and, and, and improving and moving up the ladder.
2:30:39
And I did from that, I went on to career at CBS and ESPN and
2:30:44
you know, we've been here in Atlanta 30 years doing the
2:30:46
Hawks, which is an incredibly long run for anybody in any
2:30:49
chair in broadcasting. And but I, I look back at that.
2:30:53
That's a great question. I, I never really had thought
2:30:55
about it, but I think that move, your first big job, sort of
2:30:59
gives you that confidence that you, you somebody wanting to
2:31:03
take a chance on you and he got a shot.
2:31:05
We are talking to Hall of Famer, broadcaster for the Atlanta
2:31:09
Hawks, the Atlanta Dream, and many different college football
2:31:14
and basketball games. The one and only Bob Rathbin.
2:31:18
You know Bob, I am a big and I'll, I'll say this because I've
2:31:22
been a big fan of Dominique Wilkins.
2:31:24
I love his slam dunk contest with Michael Jordan.
2:31:27
I love the back and forth banter that he had against the the one
2:31:31
and only Celtics. I mean, Dominique Wilkins was
2:31:34
one of my favorite high flying basketball players of of my time
2:31:39
watching basketball in the late 80s and early 90s.
2:31:43
What was it like getting a chance to watch this guy play
2:31:48
every single day? Well, not only that, but I, I
2:31:52
had a chance to broadcast his games when he was in high
2:31:54
school. And we, you know, he grew up in
2:31:57
North Carolina. I grew up in North Carolina.
2:32:00
And the team that I broadcast for ended up playing his team in
2:32:04
the state tournament. And then when I got to Norfolk,
2:32:06
VA, talked about I was doing Old Dominion and we played Georgia
2:32:10
in an NIT game that Nick played in and I got to broadcast that.
2:32:15
And then I had a chance to broadcast him in the NBA and
2:32:17
he's been my partner on the Hawks TV broadcast for the last
2:32:20
15 years. I was just going to mention.
2:32:21
So we have we have been joined at the hip for a very long time.
2:32:26
And I'll tell you guys it it with what happens today with
2:32:32
load management and all this other nonsense that goes on.
2:32:36
People just don't have an appreciation of, you know,
2:32:39
unless you're older, but appreciation of what Dominique
2:32:44
Wilkins brought every night. He did not disappoint.
2:32:49
I mean, he played every game. There was no load management.
2:32:53
He he was out there and he was in a in an Eastern Conference
2:32:58
with the Celtics and Bird, the Pistons, the Bulls, Milwaukee,
2:33:02
Philadelphia, when the East was like the West is today.
2:33:06
And he brought it every night. And I don't think people today
2:33:09
really can appreciate just how great he was and how hard he
2:33:14
played. You know, it's funny, we talk
2:33:16
about this a lot. He it was a badge of honor back
2:33:22
in the 80s and 90s in the NBA to play every game.
2:33:25
You just didn't come out. You know, first of all, you
2:33:28
know, the money wasn't that big and you were kind of scared of
2:33:31
losing your job in a way. But you, you played every night.
2:33:35
It wasn't even a thought of taking a night off, and then
2:33:38
today it's a badge of honor to see how many games you can miss
2:33:41
and still get paid. That's, that's the crazy thing.
2:33:44
I'm sorry to cut you off. That's the crazy thing.
2:33:46
And I, I don't like the way the NBA works anymore.
2:33:49
And Michael Jordan said it best many, many times.
2:33:51
And I, there are many documentaries I've read about
2:33:54
Michael Jordan, he said. Play people.
2:33:56
Fans are coming to watch us play.
2:33:58
They're going to buy our sneaker.
2:34:00
I'm playing 82 games in a season because they're coming to see me
2:34:04
play. I think the players don't
2:34:05
understand. That's why they come to see
2:34:09
these players play. It's not about it's not about
2:34:12
how many games they can sit out to play in a playoff game.
2:34:14
It's about how many people want to go to get a chance to watch
2:34:17
LeBron James play because he's only going to be in a league for
2:34:20
a certain amount of time. How many players want to see
2:34:22
Mano Ginobili and and Tim Duncan play?
2:34:25
Because there's only a certain amount of time that you going to
2:34:27
get a chance to see them. And some of these people over
2:34:31
the years when you when you go to see a game, because Popovich
2:34:34
was one of those guys that really, you know, trotted his
2:34:37
players out and say, OK, you're sitting tonight and you're
2:34:40
playing, You're sitting tonight and you're playing.
2:34:42
Greg Popovich was the one that started this.
2:34:45
I mean, I don't know if you know.
2:34:46
I'm sure you do know that, Bob, but he's the one that started
2:34:49
this. And the only reason he got away
2:34:51
with it is because they won. If if they had not won
2:34:55
championships, it probably would not have caught fire.
2:34:58
But it's such a copycat league that, that, that oh, well, the
2:35:02
Spurs did it, so let's let we'll try it.
2:35:05
You know, it's nonsense. Look at the dunk contest.
2:35:09
Nick will say, if you hadn't had him on your show, he would say,
2:35:13
why did you compete in all these dunk contests?
2:35:16
So we did it because of the fans.
2:35:18
The stars of the game owed it to the fans to go out and perform.
2:35:23
They didn't care who won. LeBron James has never Then, in
2:35:29
a dunk contest, that's hard to believe.
2:35:33
I've got. That would have never happened.
2:35:34
I've got. Something for you, Bob.
2:35:36
I got something for you. Because it's not the NBA, it's
2:35:40
the LJA, the LeBron James Association.
2:35:43
I've said this many times on this show, Adam, and I'll say
2:35:47
that Adam Silver over the years has been LeBron James's bitch.
2:35:51
OK, just speaking the truth here.
2:35:53
LeBron James does whatever he wants and he gets away with it.
2:35:56
And the problem right now with the NBA really stirs because of
2:36:01
what LeBron James has done over the Could you could you tell me
2:36:04
a season LeBron James has ever played 82 games?
2:36:08
How about this? 80 games in a season?
2:36:12
Could you remember? Yeah, probably it is younger
2:36:15
days, but certainly that's not the case now.
2:36:18
But I do think, I do think that's changing.
2:36:20
I, I think with our younger stars, I think that is, is
2:36:24
changing. But you take a guy like Anthony
2:36:26
Edwards, an Atlanta native, just getting a plug in for the
2:36:30
hometown kid. But you know, Ant Man wants to
2:36:34
play, wants to compete, giving it all his all every night
2:36:37
doesn't take any nights off. Victor Wimbunyama, when he's
2:36:40
healthy, I think he's going to be a guy that's going to play
2:36:42
every night, not come out of games.
2:36:44
I, I think that's changing and I and I do think it's changing for
2:36:47
the better. So I want to shift gears to
2:36:50
something earlier in your broadcasting career.
2:36:51
In 1987, you did Arena Bowl 87 with Lee Corso, who's one of my.
2:36:55
Favorite one of? My favorite college football
2:36:57
guys. What was he like then, and is he
2:36:59
like any different from what he is now?
2:37:01
No, he's he's the best. Oh my God, he's the best.
2:37:04
When he was coaching Indiana, I don't know if you guys know this
2:37:07
story, but they had a game at Ohio State and at the Horseshoe
2:37:12
and Indiana somehow scores on their first possession.
2:37:17
You're like, they win the opening toss coin and and they
2:37:21
get the ball and they go down the field and score.
2:37:24
And Corso takes the entire team out onto the field, gets the
2:37:28
team photographer out there and they take a picture of the
2:37:32
entire Indiana football team with the scoreboard in the
2:37:35
background. Indiana 7, Ohio State, nothing.
2:37:40
And court penalty flags are, you know, there's a hundred flags on
2:37:43
the field. Woody Hayes is losing his mind.
2:37:46
But that was Lee Corso. And that's the same guy that you
2:37:48
saw all those years on ESPN. Funny as all get out.
2:37:52
He was terrific. We had so much fun in the summer
2:37:55
of 87 doing arena football. You I, I want to talk about the
2:38:00
Braves tenure that you had because being a kid from
2:38:05
Nebraska, we, we got the Braves every day.
2:38:08
So I grew up a Braves fan for TBS.
2:38:11
So appreciate that. So a lot of a lot of days here
2:38:14
in you and, and all that stuff on Fox Sports like that team in
2:38:18
the 15 pence, but then only went in once.
2:38:20
Like to call a team with such great talent and all the time
2:38:24
and to come up short like being there and seeing it every day.
2:38:27
Was it just as frustrating for you as it was for me as a Braves
2:38:31
fan growing up? Yeah, it it was, you know,
2:38:36
probably in the early to mid 90s when they were at their absolute
2:38:40
best. You know, I think down here they
2:38:42
feel like the 96 was was the one that really got away.
2:38:48
You know, to be up to nothing to win both games at Yankee Stadium
2:38:53
and come home and not be able to put it away.
2:38:56
You know, the Layrits won nothing game prob, you know, was
2:39:00
just a dagger down here. But when you got into the later
2:39:05
years of that run, they really weren't the best team.
2:39:08
I mean, they were beat up in 99 when they lost and you know, it
2:39:12
was just they were great. The the NL E was not that
2:39:16
competitive. So they they were able to
2:39:19
dominate the division. But I thought the early 90s when
2:39:22
they finally got it going, the Minnesota series, you know, in
2:39:27
91, they should have won that one.
2:39:29
Probably they they broke through in 95, should have won in 96.
2:39:33
So if they'd have won those three, I think we'd have a much,
2:39:36
much different opinion about that Braves dinosaur.
2:39:40
We are talking to Hall of Famer play by play broadcaster Bob
2:39:42
Rathbin. And by the way, this guy's a
2:39:44
legend when it comes to broadcasting the Atlanta Hawks,
2:39:48
Atlanta Dream right now, WNBA, and both college football and
2:39:52
college basketball. He's done it all, ladies and
2:39:54
gentlemen, for decades. You know, you look at the NBA,
2:39:58
in the state of the NBA right now, we're going into a new
2:40:00
season. A lot of questions on right now.
2:40:04
Who is going to be the dominant force in the West and a dominant
2:40:07
force in the E 1st with the East, the Eastern Conference,
2:40:11
obviously over there in Boston, no Tatum this year.
2:40:15
He's out for the season. A lot of moves that Boston has
2:40:18
made, so they might fall out of the top two.
2:40:22
Could you see the Knicks? Being the number one seed right
2:40:25
now in the Eastern Conference and as far as the West is
2:40:29
concerned, who do you think is it Houston after the move they
2:40:32
made with Kevin Durant? Is there another team that you
2:40:36
see right now, young team that could surprise everybody out of
2:40:40
the Western Conference, just not just the OK C Thunder?
2:40:44
Oh, other than OK, C Well, I, I think for sure the Rockets are a
2:40:49
team that, you know, they, they learned the hard way last year,
2:40:53
right? I mean they, they got a big dose
2:40:55
of reality in the playoffs. So I think that will serve them
2:40:58
well. They're still fairly young team.
2:41:00
Obviously they they add KD, but you know, that's still a bunch.
2:41:03
That's that's learning how to win, you know, major trades.
2:41:07
So a reconfigured team, But I think Houston is going to be
2:41:10
pretty good. The thing I love it the most
2:41:13
about it. It's wide open.
2:41:15
I I just think this is the best thing that's happened in the NBA
2:41:19
in years. I mean, come on, Cleveland and
2:41:21
Golden State in the finals four straight years.
2:41:24
I mean Dullesville now everybody's got a chance and I
2:41:30
think everybody's fan base is energized.
2:41:32
There's only a handful of teams that are going to be, you know,
2:41:36
really bottom feeders, the Utah, Washington, you know, Brooklyn,
2:41:40
people like that. But it from the middle of the
2:41:42
top, I think it's great. I think anybody can can make a
2:41:46
move and that just invigorates a fan base and it really caps
2:41:49
interest in the full 82 because that's something I think that's
2:41:53
been lacking for NBA fans that, you know, a Tuesday night in
2:41:57
January. Well, you got a chance now.
2:41:59
See a really competitive game. So yeah, I'm, I'm all for
2:42:03
parody. I think it's fantastic.
2:42:05
Of course, that's, you know, the voice of the Atlanta Hawks
2:42:08
speaking. You know, I'm all for knocking
2:42:10
the big boys off and everybody having a chance.
2:42:12
But I, I do think that's kind of where we are in the East.
2:42:14
You know, you got three major injuries with Halliburton going
2:42:19
down and Dame Lillard going down, going down, that that
2:42:23
makes a big change at the top of the East.
2:42:25
I don't think anybody in the East is scared of anybody else
2:42:29
and that's going to make it great.
2:42:30
You know, it's so interesting because Le Bron James has been
2:42:33
really the talk of the NBA over the last, I would say 2 weeks in
2:42:38
Luka Don Chick just got a big contract.
2:42:40
He was the only one of his teammates not at that conference
2:42:45
call. And then all of a sudden he, he,
2:42:49
he sends, he sends congratulations to Luka Dodgek
2:42:52
on Twitter on X, and that's all. Does LeBron James at the trade
2:42:58
deadline play for another team? Do you see him staying with the
2:43:01
Lakers, especially when the Lakers look like they're going
2:43:05
to start to rebuild around Luka Dodgek?
2:43:09
Well, you know, the the sun is starting to set on his career.
2:43:14
I mean, he's still give him his due, you know, for 40 years old,
2:43:18
he's still getting it done. Like few players in our league
2:43:21
can get it done. But he's on the downhill slide.
2:43:25
There's no question about that. And I think the biggest question
2:43:29
is not so much his stats or winning and stuff like that,
2:43:32
It's his ego. Can he handle being the second
2:43:36
banana to Luca? I don't know.
2:43:39
We're going to find out. But the thing about him leaving
2:43:41
the Lakers, that means he also has to leave his son and I don't
2:43:45
know that that is going to happen.
2:43:48
He may ride it out to get Brawny through, but you know, the end
2:43:54
is coming. And it's the first time really,
2:43:58
since he's got established in the early days in Cleveland that
2:44:02
he is not the face of this league.
2:44:05
He's not the most dominant player in this league anymore.
2:44:08
And I don't know that he can handle that.
2:44:11
That's gonna be very interesting to see.
2:44:13
So my last question, I know you spent some time with the
2:44:15
Washington Bullets. So one of the friends of our
2:44:16
show is Charlie Sloves, the play by play voice of the Washington
2:44:19
Nationals. Have you had any experiences
2:44:20
with him? Oh yeah, back to Virginia when
2:44:25
Charlie was coming along. He did the team that I did the
2:44:28
Tidewater Tides, then a Mets AAA affiliate.
2:44:32
So yeah, we've known Charlie for years.
2:44:35
What a what a fine young man and great broadcaster.
2:44:38
I, I mean, I'm going to end this with with this from my last one.
2:44:41
How much longer do you want to do this?
2:44:43
You know, I, I think often of a quote from Don Shula, the Hall
2:44:48
of Fame football coach, and he once said, the closer I get to
2:44:53
the stadium, the faster I walk. And I still feel that way, guys.
2:44:58
I love the games. I, I still get excited about
2:45:04
preparing. You know, we get the schedule
2:45:05
tomorrow. It's like the half, I'm like a
2:45:07
kid on Christmas Eve tonight. I can't wait to get my hands on
2:45:10
the schedule tomorrow, see where we're going, where the travels
2:45:15
will take us. And I, I'm just a, a kid in that
2:45:18
regard. So I still love it.
2:45:20
I think the big thing for me is I've still got my health
2:45:23
enthusiasm to do it every day. And I love the players.
2:45:28
And we're, you know, they're, we're 50 years apart, 40 years
2:45:32
apart and you know, they have my back.
2:45:36
I've got their back. I love them and I love traveling
2:45:40
with them and being with them. It's just so great.
2:45:42
And, and I hope that, you know, the Hawks and the NBA will allow
2:45:47
me to continue to do it because I absolutely love it.
2:45:49
I love our fans. We have such great interaction
2:45:52
with them. I'm sitting next to a Hall of
2:45:54
Famer every night and Dominique Wilkins having a blast, so I
2:45:57
hope I get the chance to do it for a long time to come.
2:45:59
Well, I'm cool with Charlie Slows and he's another guy.
2:46:02
He's a broadcaster that's worked for many different leagues from
2:46:06
the NBA down to the MLBS, the nationals radio broadcaster,
2:46:10
voice of the the Washington Nationals.
2:46:12
And I asked him when it when is it going to be over for you?
2:46:15
And, and we're very close and we have these conversations all the
2:46:18
time. And he says, well, as long as
2:46:20
I'm getting a paycheck week by week, I'm going to be here.
2:46:23
So I, I do believe that is the way Charlie and I, I wouldn't, I
2:46:28
would not want to hear anybody else but you, Bob, for what you
2:46:31
do, not only for the Atlanta Hawks, but you are really been
2:46:35
one of the voices of NBA basketball.
2:46:37
I really do appreciate the time, not only as a personality on
2:46:42
what you do for the radio and television, but who you are as a
2:46:46
person and a person that I look up to.
2:46:48
So thank you for joining us and I definitely off air.
2:46:51
I would love to have a conversation with you.
2:46:54
You're a person that I would love to pick your brain with
2:46:56
your sensational human being. And I just can only imagine your
2:47:01
wife all these years getting a chance to hear you and and your
2:47:05
kids getting a chance to see what you have done as a
2:47:08
professional. It's an amazing, amazing career
2:47:11
as a broadcaster. Broadcaster.
2:47:13
Thank you so much man. Well, that I that that really is
2:47:16
kind of you to say that, and I appreciate that we do it all for
2:47:20
the fans. And yes, reach out to me
2:47:22
anytime. Love the chat.
2:47:24
I'm I'm pretty easy to find, so you can e-mail, text, whatever.
2:47:30
Love, love the interaction and and love to spend time with you.
2:47:33
Absolutely. He's been fantastic.
2:47:35
Thank you, Bob. We'll definitely talk to you
2:47:38
soon, man. I'll definitely reach out to
2:47:39
you. Congratulations on the great
2:47:41
career that you've had and many, many, many, many, many, many,
2:47:45
many more years to go. Thank you so much.
2:47:47
Thank you so much. Great being with you.
2:47:49
Thank you. Bob Rathben, fantastic, one of
2:47:53
the best in the business guys, one of the best.
2:47:56
Everything that he is doing right now, not only for the NBA
2:47:59
to WNBA, it is amazing how long he's been doing it and doing it
2:48:04
at a high level. It's it's sensational.
2:48:07
Just think about it. You're talking about four
2:48:10
decades, 4 decades of maybe even a little, almost almost 5
2:48:15
decades of, you know, being a broadcaster for somebody like
2:48:20
that to pick somebody's brain in this industry, those are the
2:48:23
guys you want to pick their brains because these guys are
2:48:27
the best in the business. And, and for him to do it as
2:48:30
long as he's done it and at a high level, those are the guys.
2:48:33
Guys, if you didn't hear that interview, that is a sensational
2:48:36
interview. He's and guys, when you talk
2:48:39
about the top 10 play by play NBA guys, he's definitely in the
2:48:44
top 10. So if you're an NBA fan, he's
2:48:47
he's one of the best in the business.
2:48:48
So just to have him on a show, it's to me, it's an honor.
2:48:52
I think everybody would say that Jabba, I mean, Speedy is
2:48:56
infatuated right now as we speak.
2:48:58
I mean seriously, look at him. He's fantastic.
2:49:05
All right, we got another segment, a new one.
2:49:09
We call this the one and only Jabba rule.
2:49:12
History in the making. You ready?
2:49:15
Jabba rules. I got the bubble guts.
2:49:18
I'll let you lick my butt. Here we are.
2:49:21
For another edition of Jabba Rules.
2:49:24
Jabba, they gave you a lot of rules back in the day.
2:49:28
Why don't you tell us what rules?
2:49:29
You know what I'm going to, I'm going to go on the positive
2:49:32
side. We fish and I were talking
2:49:34
earlier and we're kind of going to keep you guys on your toes
2:49:37
with this one in I wanted to talk about something that rules
2:49:42
not only in the game of baseball, but also in in our
2:49:45
hearts and in our parents. I would like to give a hats off
2:49:50
to actually having Major League Baseball step up and let players
2:49:53
be players and have players weekend and get to do some some
2:49:57
really cool things and show their personality, their
2:49:59
hometowns, you know, their families and and stuff like
2:50:03
that. And specifically, I wanted to
2:50:05
touch on one on on a subject that, you know, we we didn't
2:50:09
want to harp on too long because it's that guy didn't deserve the
2:50:13
amount of time that we actually talked about it.
2:50:14
But could tell Marte obviously losing his mother and going
2:50:19
through what he did, you know, this this year and having to
2:50:23
deal with that. And he got gifted.
2:50:26
I don't know if you guys have saw this, but he got gifted for
2:50:30
for players weekend a a custom bat with a picture of him and
2:50:35
his mother in the shape, like in a heart around it.
2:50:38
And you could just really, really, you know, see the joy
2:50:42
and the smile and his eyes start to well up and just how much you
2:50:46
know, that meant. And then I was kind of like I
2:50:49
was thinking how that rules. But then I'm like, at the same
2:50:51
time, I'm like, you know, what if you what if you get jammed
2:50:54
and and you break the bat and it's right beats and it splits
2:50:57
you and your mom up? I'm like, maybe I don't want to
2:50:59
use that bat, but just to be able to have that opportunity
2:51:04
to, to share that memory and the bad company to be able to do
2:51:09
that. And, and for Major League
2:51:10
Baseball to allow these, you know, players weekends where,
2:51:15
you know, it, it back then you, you really couldn't, you know,
2:51:19
show your personality per SE with like one of my favorite is
2:51:23
when they first started it, Shane Bieber and his jersey
2:51:27
said, not Justin, like, you know, just just where you get
2:51:31
AC, you know, the personality of guys.
2:51:34
Another one of my favorites was the Seeger brothers and they
2:51:38
just like younger brother and like just just being able to do
2:51:41
that. And I, I think it, it shows and
2:51:44
it gets the younger crowd and, and for me, it's, it's something
2:51:47
really, really cool. And the Catelle Marte just kind
2:51:49
of said it over the top because I look forward to these, you
2:51:52
know, players weekends to see, you know, kind of, you know,
2:51:56
more more of their personality instead of just, you know, the
2:52:00
baseball players side. And you know what, you know,
2:52:03
maybe their interest, maybe they're into, you know, anime
2:52:06
and something. And we've seen, you know, cleats
2:52:08
and stuff like that. So yeah, that's something that I
2:52:11
wish I was able to do. But, you know, I think it it it
2:52:14
rules in the aspect of letting these letting these guys be
2:52:17
themselves and, you know, showing a little bit of the
2:52:20
funny side with, you know, names on jerseys and and these really
2:52:23
sentimental things too, that that mean a lot to these guys
2:52:26
that play all. Right, that's what rules,
2:52:30
according to Jabba. I will say this and I, I don't
2:52:33
usually, you know, express myself with my private life, but
2:52:37
I for the show today and, and really for the last three hours,
2:52:42
my sister's been in the hospital and she sent me a message before
2:52:47
the show telling me that she had a partial heart attack and she
2:52:50
was rushed to St. John's Hospital.
2:52:54
So my heart goes out to my sister.
2:52:57
I hope everything's OK. I haven't really spoken to her.
2:52:59
She's been dealing with what she's been dealing with and it's
2:53:04
been hard doing the show and thinking about her and getting
2:53:07
text messages with her, her boyfriend and and my niece
2:53:11
through the show. It is, it's not very easy
2:53:14
concentrating on all the stuff that's going offset of the show.
2:53:17
So I'm, I'm trying to be a, a player here and a, and a team
2:53:22
player here and, and I'm trying to get through the show, but
2:53:25
it's been really, really hard throughout the show.
2:53:27
I told Speedy, I was telling poops during the break what I've
2:53:30
been dealing with during the show.
2:53:32
It's not it's, it's, it's very, very hard to do something like
2:53:35
this knowing that one of your family members is, is not doing
2:53:38
so well in the hospital. So I'm my, if my sister's
2:53:42
listening, what she probably isn't right now.
2:53:44
I hope she's OK so. Same here, hopefully I'm praying
2:53:47
for her. So all right, that's, that's
2:53:52
been, it's been going on throughout the show.
2:53:54
I've been like, I've been really trying to get through the show
2:53:57
and, and trying to keep my head up and, and think it's not easy
2:54:01
doing this. So it's, you know, anyways, we
2:54:06
got a new, we got another segment.
2:54:08
He's in, ladies and gentlemen. Goodies.
2:54:10
Bag of balls. My mom was going to wire a car
2:54:12
battery. On my.
2:54:13
Testicles. Trying to put tiger bomb.
2:54:15
On this jungle's nuts. Goodies Bag of balls.
2:54:18
That's how you become great man and your balls out there.
2:54:22
All right. Well, I hope your sister.
2:54:23
I hope your sister's doing good. That's scary.
2:54:25
Man, it's scary. It's crazy because she called me
2:54:29
today and she told me that her her left hand was going numb and
2:54:33
today and I'm like, why aren't you calling 911?
2:54:36
And she was crying to me on the phone.
2:54:39
I said call 911. I called a boyfriend, then I
2:54:42
called my mother and then I said Samantha call 911.
2:54:46
So she called 911 and then I got a text before the show getting
2:54:50
out of the shower. She says the doctors in here
2:54:52
right now told me that I had a partial heart attack.
2:54:54
So they admitted her into Saint John's Hospital and she's
2:54:59
getting tests done right now as we speak.
2:55:00
She'll probably be there for a couple of days.
2:55:03
So, you know, I've been dealing with this the whole show trying
2:55:06
to, you know, trying to get my mind off of it.
2:55:08
It's just, it's so it's just so hard to do that when you have a
2:55:12
family member in the hospital right now.
2:55:13
And hopefully she's doing OK so. Yeah, that's crazy, man.
2:55:17
Well, I hope she is all right. I hope that, you know, at least
2:55:20
you guys caught it early, So. Yeah, inside 2020.
2:55:24
Well, all right, we'll get off the somber topic there.
2:55:27
This August, August 11th, UFC President Dana White announced
2:55:31
they got a massive $7.7 billion partnership with Paramount.
2:55:36
And it doesn't only include UFC events, but it also is including
2:55:40
power slapping. Have you seen the power
2:55:43
slapping? Yes.
2:55:44
Of course, it's a flat fighting show within this package, all
2:55:47
right? So to me, I think this is going
2:55:49
to be wild to see on mainstream combat entertainment and how
2:55:54
this is stretching into the fighting and stretching into
2:55:57
slap fighting. There we go, right?
2:56:01
Boom. The deal signals just how much
2:56:03
value Paramount sees in a niche, even if it's a fringe content to
2:56:09
attract eyeballs and subscribers across their ecosystem.
2:56:15
I'm expecting a little bit of backlash from the combat
2:56:19
fighting purist, but I will say it is definitely entertaining to
2:56:25
watch grown men slap the absolute shit out of each other.
2:56:28
Now I've watched it, I've I've got a chance to check out some
2:56:31
of the different tournaments that they have, the heavyweight
2:56:33
division, the light heavyweight division, the welterweight
2:56:35
division. It's, it's it's pretty
2:56:37
remarkable. Dana White's been supporting
2:56:39
this for a while. He goes to all the events he
2:56:42
supports. Didn't he start it?
2:56:45
No, he didn't start it. He actually now is promoting it
2:56:49
and help running the organization because the
2:56:51
organization is just so poorly run and the way they're
2:56:54
promoting it. So he's helping promote the
2:56:56
product and that's why he's got a deal with Paramount.
2:57:00
He he brought them in on the deal with Paramount and that was
2:57:03
one of the deals that he he made.
2:57:05
Because here's the thing, what I've heard is ESPN wanted to re
2:57:09
sign them. ESPN wanted to take them back on
2:57:12
after you bringing in the WWE. The problem is Dana White wanted
2:57:15
to bring in power slapping and and I I was.
2:57:19
I think it's a great idea. I think it is.
2:57:21
I think obviously the combat sport fighting right now,
2:57:24
especially the UFC, there's very few big fighters right now.
2:57:28
They're they're trying to develop certain young fighters
2:57:31
to come up. We've, we talk about it all the
2:57:33
time. There's, there's still some of
2:57:36
those veteran fighters that are keeping it afloat.
2:57:37
But power slapping has been a unique sport and it's promoted
2:57:43
all over the Facebook and TikTok, you know, platforms.
2:57:46
I definitely enjoy doom scrolling and and catching a
2:57:50
clip of. It is right Errol, you're right.
2:57:55
It's on TikTok like every It's the the ones that get me though
2:58:00
is when they do the slow moan it shows like their jaw like on the
2:58:03
other side. What I don't understand is.
2:58:06
Have you seen the one where the women slap their butts?
2:58:08
Yeah, I've seen. That's in a different country
2:58:11
though. Yeah, like he needs to buy that.
2:58:13
What I don't understand is why are they holding like a pad on
2:58:17
the like putting it on the back of their back?
2:58:20
I understand the whole mouthpiece thing because they
2:58:22
don't. They don't want to have a
2:58:23
concussion, but I, I, I don't get that whole pad thing that
2:58:26
they're holding in the back of their, their arms when they're
2:58:29
getting smacked in the face. I, I don't get that.
2:58:31
I really don't. But I didn't even know Dana
2:58:33
White obviously created this thing.
2:58:36
But I as a kid, I did slap boxing in Brooklyn.
2:58:40
And it's different because in slap boxing, you have to stand
2:58:44
in a box. You can't pass the line or you
2:58:46
get a free slap. Slap boxing has been around for
2:58:49
forever. So to make it a professional
2:58:51
sport, it's pretty unique. It's pretty cool.
2:58:54
So congratulate. Will it be the neck?
2:58:56
Olympic sport, No. And what country will take over?
2:58:59
Probably one of those like weight lifting countries in
2:59:01
Eastern Europe. That's pretty.
2:59:03
Cool that Dana White. You imagine the mountain.
2:59:05
You know the mountain from the. What's that?
2:59:10
Yorn Borg? Yeah, Game of Thrones.
2:59:12
Game of Thrones You imagine the Mountain slapping you.
2:59:14
No broken neck instantly. How about Andre the Giant
2:59:19
smacking the crap out of you? Could you imagine?
2:59:22
His hands like this, His hands take my whole face off.
2:59:24
Could you imagine? But the crazy part too, they do
2:59:27
it. They do it and the like, The
2:59:28
prize money isn't crazy. Like no out there it's like 2550
2:59:33
grand or something. It's more than UFC fighters.
2:59:37
Do you know the undercoat of the UFC is $10,000 10 grand?
2:59:41
That's what they make. That's if you win.
2:59:43
Yeah. No, no, no, it it depends.
2:59:46
Now obviously, if you fight of the night.
2:59:47
You can get like. Fight of the night for like 50
2:59:49
grand. But I, I think it's $10,000 no
2:59:52
matter what, win or lose, I think you get $10,000 because
2:59:56
what are you fighting for? If you're on a, if you're the
2:59:58
undercard of a like a main event or something like that, you're
3:00:01
getting, I think it's $10,000 win or lose.
3:00:05
I think the winner gets a little bit more than that.
3:00:07
But you don't make any money. You don't make nothing.
3:00:10
That's why Jake. Yeah, Good.
3:00:12
Isn't that why Jake Paul's the same with boxing?
3:00:14
Like that's why Jake Paul's trying to promote the boxing
3:00:16
thing, help the help the fight. He also just, I don't know if
3:00:19
you saw, he gave like $5 million of Ben Askren who had a
3:00:22
collapsed lung, which I thought was pretty cool.
3:00:25
Well, Ben Askren is is a guy that Jake really doesn't like,
3:00:29
but he went out of his way to to try to help the guy.
3:00:32
The guy was dying and to go out of his way to get him along and,
3:00:36
and all the other stuff and promoting it.
3:00:38
I think Jake, Jake Paul is very well, well respected in the
3:00:43
industry outside of the lines of his stupidity in his promotion.
3:00:46
So you can't take shots at him and Logan.
3:00:49
They're they're money grabbers. They're they're marketers.
3:00:51
That's what they do for a living.
3:00:53
But as far as I'm concerned, what Jake is doing, he's
3:00:56
attacked Dana White on not giving insurances and and stuff
3:01:00
like that to the fighters that he has in his, in his company
3:01:03
and his corporation. I think Jake's right.
3:01:05
And that's why Jake has now become a promoter and he's
3:01:07
pushed boxing, boxing and combat sports and trying to promote it
3:01:11
with MVP. I think Jake Paul is doing a
3:01:13
great job on just trying to market his product and getting
3:01:15
his product to the top. So.
3:01:17
Fair, sure. Well, let's move along.
3:01:19
Let's talk a little bit about baseball.
3:01:21
Houston Astros are now without their prime closure here, Josh
3:01:26
haters. So there's star closer.
3:01:28
We know Josh Hater. We see him with the Brewers.
3:01:30
We've seen him now with Houston. He signed that big massive like
3:01:33
what was it, 3470 something $1,000,000 deal he's been
3:01:37
placing on the injured list with a shoulder injury, which is
3:01:40
obviously creates a massive void in the back end of the bullpen
3:01:44
for the Houston Astros hater this season is converted 28 to
3:01:48
the 29 save opportunities and the bullpen path forward is
3:01:52
going to be is up for grabs. I don't know what Joe Spot is
3:01:55
playing. Dude has shifted if it's going
3:01:57
to be a closure by committee, but they do have Brian Abreu and
3:02:03
others. So who is he going to trust in
3:02:05
this situation and who, who is he going to rely on, you know,
3:02:10
to move forward to, to get to this playoff push?
3:02:14
It's already a bullpen that was struggling in the after the All
3:02:16
Star break anyway, even when hater was healthy.
3:02:18
So they're whatever roles they're in now, they're going to
3:02:21
have to be a lot more creative. Obviously they'll rely on the
3:02:23
starters to get more length, which they've gotten with some
3:02:25
of them. But it's still not the it's not
3:02:27
the Astro system of pitching that we've seen in the past
3:02:30
either that you're seeing. Even though they're winning the
3:02:33
division right now, it doesn't still feel like they're like
3:02:36
this overpowering identity at this point.
3:02:40
Yeah, I mean, a Bray, you close tonight, I think that's probably
3:02:44
the direction you're going to go and everybody kind of just
3:02:47
filters up. But yeah, they've struggled a
3:02:50
little bit in the second-half and it's it's interesting and
3:02:54
haters, one of the guys that's really, I mean, it's stayed
3:02:56
pretty healthy for for his tenure over the league, so.
3:02:59
I mean, at some point they knew he's going to break down like
3:03:01
his, yeah. I mean, yeah, he's and he's
3:03:04
thrown a lot. And I mean, and that's not even
3:03:06
including dry humps in there too.
3:03:08
And that's when it came about. He got dry humped and then
3:03:10
that's when he was like he was barking.
3:03:12
And then that's when they that's when they did the MRI, so.
3:03:16
Fucks do as a shoulder elbow. OK, you can.
3:03:22
Worst case scenario, let's say you either break your
3:03:25
electronon, you know, or you have Tom and John surgery,
3:03:28
right? But shoulder shoulder's a whole
3:03:30
different animal to come back from.
3:03:32
Yeah, that. Well, yeah, and in your shoulder
3:03:34
too. It could.
3:03:35
I mean, elbow. It's like you hear flexorship.
3:03:38
Elbow goes like this. Shoulder goes like this.
3:03:41
Yeah. So I mean, it could be your
3:03:43
rotator, your labrum, your capsule, like your bald side,
3:03:46
like the shoulder is so different.
3:03:50
I mean, we all have, you know, slapped tears in our lab room.
3:03:53
I mean, mine's 60% torn. It's just some some bark worse
3:03:56
than the others. But yeah, shoulders, shoulders
3:03:59
are definitely a lot different than than elbows, especially
3:04:02
these days. Elbow now it's like, oh, you're
3:04:04
having this. Cool, See ya.
3:04:06
Yeah, my shoulders. My first interaction with Doctor
3:04:10
James Andrews in Pensacola. I sat down on the table and he
3:04:15
goes, all right, big man, shoulder, elbow.
3:04:17
I go elbow and he goes thank God.
3:04:20
The other thing too, he wasn't a closer his whole career either.
3:04:22
He was like a 2-3 inning super reliever before he.
3:04:25
Became the yeah, he was closing, but he was getting the big boy.
3:04:29
Saves 2-3 innings today. He was getting old school and
3:04:32
then and then he got prima Donna and he was like, I'm not doing
3:04:35
that anymore. I'm only doing 1 inning saves.
3:04:37
Remember that playoff? Like right at the playoffs he's
3:04:39
like, Nope, only one inning. Only one inning.
3:04:42
He's getting 8 winnings a year like it wears on you.
3:04:45
What is that guy making now? 1820 million.
3:04:48
I think it's, I think it was a set five year 95, so I think
3:04:50
about 17. Yeah, 5 and 95.
3:04:52
Yeah, so he's getting paid. He's fine.
3:04:55
I mean, he but The thing is, is like that guy's on a trajectory
3:04:58
to be one of the greats and this is definitely going to derail
3:05:01
him. I mean, his strikeout, his
3:05:03
innings pitch, the strikeouts are ridiculous.
3:05:06
His saves are ridiculous. His stuff is ridiculous and he's
3:05:10
been pretty reliable for the bulk of his career.
3:05:13
So I don't know, it's going to be pretty interesting to see
3:05:16
what Houston does. I'm not a big fan of closure by
3:05:19
committee, to be honest with you.
3:05:20
I think it's it sucks when you're sitting down there and
3:05:22
you don't really know who's closing that night.
3:05:25
Now they give you a little bit of a heads up, but at the same
3:05:27
time, like when the phone rings that their their decisions can
3:05:29
flip based on who's up in the lineup.
3:05:32
So I think if you stick with somebody, you stay with the with
3:05:34
the Bray you and you just ride them.
3:05:36
Isn't that technically half the teams right now that are trying
3:05:41
to make the playoffs there? It's really there's no closer.
3:05:44
I mean, the Yankees, how many, how many guys are they using at
3:05:47
the closing position they have? No, they should just left
3:05:49
Weaver. And I like Weaver as a closer.
3:05:52
I know he's not like your big time power stuff, but he throws
3:05:54
strikes. Like, yeah, you go and sign
3:05:57
Devin Williams, but Devin Williams isn't pitching well in
3:05:59
New York. So it goes.
3:06:00
I mean, and Weaver did it in situations to where he like.
3:06:04
And that's, that's the crappy part too is, yeah, you, you
3:06:06
bring in Devin Williams, obviously different animal in
3:06:10
Milwaukee than what Luke Weaver did and and proved like and.
3:06:14
That might have that. Might have weighed on him too.
3:06:16
You know, he's he's had his struggles a little bit like man,
3:06:18
I did everything I could to to earn this and you bring this
3:06:20
dude in. He's absolutely all over himself
3:06:24
and he's pitching to an 11 and I'm still not getting a shot.
3:06:27
Like, I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a kick in the Ding a Ling,
3:06:30
that's for sure. Oh dude, it sucks.
3:06:32
Absolutely sucks A. Kick in a Ding a Ling only job
3:06:37
I. Don't, no, I feel it because
3:06:39
that, that, that that's massive, like contract, like for sure if
3:06:43
you're closing in New York and you're doing well, like a good
3:06:46
enough job, like every team wants you.
3:06:49
You. Can pretty much have your pick.
3:06:51
Of the yeah, they're like there's media scrutiny like boom
3:06:55
yeah and he's. You can pitch in New York, you
3:06:57
can pitch pretty much any. Yeah, it's a kick in a dingling.
3:06:59
Yeah, that's perfect. It's a kick in Dingling for
3:07:01
sure, like the last one. I think you guys will like this.
3:07:04
This is a little bit of a conspiracy theory here, but
3:07:07
Michael Parsons contract stalling to boost the Netflix
3:07:11
hype. Fans and media outlets are
3:07:13
speculating that the Dallas Cowboys are deliberately
3:07:15
delaying the contract negotiations with star
3:07:18
linebacker Michael Parsons to drum up attention for their
3:07:20
upcoming Netflix documentary called America's Team.
3:07:25
The Gambler and his Cowboys set the debut on August 19th.
3:07:29
The idea is that the ongoing contract drama will keep the
3:07:32
team and the doc buzzworthy in the weeks leading to the
3:07:36
release. I don't know if I believe that
3:07:39
story. I've heard about it.
3:07:40
Me and Fish were speaking about it today that this documentary
3:07:44
is coming out. And there were stories coming
3:07:46
out that Jones was dealing with cancer one of the years.
3:07:50
So I I mean, I don't know if this mic.
3:07:53
Apart. Did he say stage 4 for like a
3:07:55
decade or something like that? I haven't had surgery.
3:07:58
I have no idea. I haven't when when the
3:08:00
documentary. Comes out who knows what.
3:08:02
That I'm watching right now, the SEC documentary.
3:08:05
It's fantastic. Anybody.
3:08:06
Pretty good the first one. I watched it last night, the
3:08:08
first episode pretty good. I think it's fantastic.
3:08:10
I, I've watched 3 episodes already.
3:08:12
I want to finish it up probably tomorrow.
3:08:14
It is sensational if you like college football or you want to
3:08:17
learn a little about a little bit about the inside back end of
3:08:20
college football in the SEC, you see, obviously it's the best
3:08:23
conference. Maybe three class?
3:08:25
Yeah, come on. That's right.
3:08:27
It was fantastic. It's been fantastic.
3:08:29
But. I watched the first episode with
3:08:30
Kate last night and we she fell asleep, but I got through it
3:08:33
through some of it. I'm just like, I'm looking at
3:08:35
it. I'm like, man, college is so
3:08:37
cheesy. Like some of this.
3:08:39
I mean, listen, it's good. Like I like the way.
3:08:41
That, hey, do you think, hey, do you look back and do you think
3:08:44
like, we were like, we were that stupid doing that stuff?
3:08:49
I want to cringe, like when I see some of these things that
3:08:51
they're doing, I'm like. Please tell everybody.
3:08:54
That's why I like, I don't think college coaching college
3:08:57
baseball like it's fun. I enjoy the players.
3:08:59
I like the, you know, I like the guys and stuff, but I'm like
3:09:01
Kate, I would never, I wouldn't. I would never do that.
3:09:04
I can't stand watching the SEC obviously Any Given Saturday,
3:09:10
that's what it's called, SEC Any Giving Saturday.
3:09:13
I can't stand Brian Kelly and I can't stand him more.
3:09:16
Watching that documentary just makes me want to hate him more.
3:09:19
The guy in. The first episode, I thought he
3:09:20
was OK. Like, I was like, all right.
3:09:22
I like the way he coaches. There's a lot of.
3:09:24
There's a lot of. Why?
3:09:25
Because he's coaching your Tigers.
3:09:27
Oh no, they don't get me wrong. Like he hasn't won anything.
3:09:29
So people are out for his head like he hasn't won anything.
3:09:32
And I told her last night, like, he hasn't won.
3:09:35
That's why he can go 10 and three, but it's not.
3:09:37
It's not good enough, not good enough.
3:09:39
For. Never left Notre Dame.
3:09:41
He should have. Never lost left.
3:09:43
Them I agree there. I agree with this.
3:09:44
I agree with this statement, but at the I mean, he's, he's with
3:09:48
us now. Like The thing is, is like, if
3:09:51
the players respect him and the players actually like him, then
3:09:54
the players will play hard he's. An ass.
3:09:56
As long as he doesn't do a stupid accent.
3:09:59
Oh God, he. Yeah, I think they should have
3:10:01
kept coach out. Like you've got to keep coach.
3:10:04
Coacho is Louisiana State University football, but.
3:10:07
You know what I like and you'll get a chance if you watch it,
3:10:10
you go watch deeper into it. Vanderbilt, which they're the
3:10:13
worst SEC team. Like when it comes to college
3:10:16
football, the the coach over there is trying to rebuild that
3:10:20
team. I think it's fantastic what he's
3:10:22
doing over there and and when you get a chance to check out
3:10:25
what he's trying to do and how he recruits players, it's pretty
3:10:28
amazing how he's doing it. So I'm telling you, go check it
3:10:32
out. You have to be.
3:10:33
Smart to get into that school. Yes, but they're not a college
3:10:36
football school. They're.
3:10:37
No, they're a baseball school. They're a great baseball.
3:10:39
School. They're a great basketball
3:10:41
school, too. What we really need is if you
3:10:44
see the group chat with the Bennig Arrow how bad W was going
3:10:46
to get Brian Kelly. Like he said, he hated him even
3:10:48
10 times more dude. Brian Kelly's a Jackass.
3:10:51
He really is. He's a complete and his family,
3:10:54
you could just see when his father, his father's still
3:10:56
alive. All his brothers, they're all
3:10:58
jackasses. Every one of them.
3:11:00
All the Kelly's, they're just stupid.
3:11:01
Listen, I don't know the man personally.
3:11:03
I will say he needs to start winning the the the Big Show
3:11:07
that you know he needs. He needs to win at least one if
3:11:10
he wants to stick around. He's not.
3:11:11
One over there. He's not one.
3:11:14
It will be. They can't even develop defense
3:11:15
anymore. Remember they used to be like
3:11:17
cornerback you for a while. They have such bad defenses for
3:11:20
years, I will say. This he's had brilliant
3:11:22
offenses, Jay, you know, but but aside from that, like it hasn't.
3:11:26
I mean, he's hasn't. The defense is what we were
3:11:28
usually known for is our defense.
3:11:31
No, he's an offensive minded coach.
3:11:32
It definitely is ever since he's gotten there.
3:11:34
And by the way, I watch out for Florida the the Gators this year
3:11:39
in Langway. I'm telling.
3:11:40
They always play all of you good, but they're not.
3:11:42
Watch out for Langway and you got a chance to get to know him
3:11:47
during this this. I like the weeks brothers.
3:11:50
I will say that wait weeks and. Of course you like them.
3:11:54
They're. Probably that guy.
3:11:55
That kid plays hard, man. Well, it's now.
3:11:57
Weak. It's now.
3:11:59
It's not the weeks, brothers. And now it's just the weeks.
3:12:02
The weeks hey, well, last. Thing here.
3:12:06
Not off topic. Not.
3:12:08
Too, a little off topic, but I'm going to hear your take on the
3:12:10
show. Hey, Otani deal that's going on.
3:12:13
Here with him, you got to listen to the beginning of the show,
3:12:15
man. I get a chance to you'll you'll
3:12:18
I get I was coaching you. Get to listen to it later.
3:12:21
You could always listen to the replay of the show like
3:12:23
everybody else, yeah. $250 million sabotages deal pending
3:12:29
it on his A. Typical Shayo Otani.
3:12:32
What a. Story.
3:12:32
We spent an hour on it, dude. Like, yeah, there's a lot.
3:12:37
It's wild, that story. That is a.
3:12:38
Wild. I missed it.
3:12:39
I don't even know what's going on.
3:12:40
Like I don't. All I read was tell.
3:12:42
You this Jabba supports Shayo Otani still as we speak.
3:12:49
I think. I think Jabba and Shay Otani.
3:12:52
I think Jabba should be Shay Otani agent.
3:12:54
That's what I think. I.
3:12:56
Would love to be his agent. I because Jabba Chamberlain.
3:13:00
It doesn't matter what Shay Otani is a part of or what he's
3:13:03
doing, Jabba says. It's not true.
3:13:06
I stand behind it. There's no proof.
3:13:08
Innocence. No.
3:13:09
Proven guilty. My dad worked in a prison.
3:13:11
There's a lot of innocent people in prison, so.
3:13:13
That's true. I mean, I agree with that
3:13:15
statement. I agree with that statement.
3:13:17
It's hard. It's hard to believe that the
3:13:20
two biggest baseball stories that come out he's a part of and
3:13:24
you say that he's innocent. That's all I'm going to say.
3:13:27
I do not believe. That I don't know.
3:13:28
I mean he. Wasn't evolved goody they saying
3:13:31
he didn't even know about it? Again, he didn't know about it
3:13:34
wasn't him. He doesn't.
3:13:36
Know he. Was a guy associated with him?
3:13:38
Yeah, he doesn't know nothing, absolutely has no clue what's
3:13:40
going. On what was he trying to do
3:13:42
though? He's trying to build a buy a.
3:13:44
House or property for him to sell his injury apartments.
3:13:47
It's kind of what they do with Trump.
3:13:49
Like Trump doesn't own Trump Towers, they just pay for.
3:13:52
His Here's the crazy thing, he signed off on it.
3:13:54
So is is John Hancock is on it. So don't tell me he knew nothing
3:13:59
about it. That is the.
3:14:00
Point where? OK, where's this John Hancock?
3:14:03
Have you seen this personally? That's what they said, that's
3:14:06
the. Story OK so you believe so you
3:14:07
you believe everything that. Said 100%.
3:14:09
OK, 100%. Everything that said on the
3:14:11
Internet. 100% I believe it. I believe the.
3:14:13
Story. If you believe everything, then
3:14:15
you believe that this damn meteor that's coming over here
3:14:18
is a damn mothership filler. Aliens.
3:14:20
I believe none of you know The Who John Hancock was.
3:14:26
He's the first one to sign the Declaration of Independence.
3:14:29
Yeah, but besides that, who was he?
3:14:32
Like what do you mean? Like he was an important.
3:14:35
Person. He was the first person to have
3:14:36
his John on his cock. He financed the Sons of Liberty.
3:14:41
Speedy, did you get? That yeah, that's super.
3:14:43
That's. What?
3:14:43
It's John Hancock Financial. Right.
3:14:46
Yeah, it is. Did you get that?
3:14:48
But he was the president. I don't want to get involved in
3:14:51
any conversation. Is that what they call the
3:14:53
toilet bowl? The John.
3:14:55
No, that's actually from the John From No, from not Rob.
3:15:00
Yeah, from Robin Hood. The John from Robin Hood.
3:15:03
Speaking of in Lake Flynn, that's King John, The evil King
3:15:07
John. That's where it comes from, Yes.
3:15:09
Or at least that's what Mel Brooks said in his movie.
3:15:11
I could be wrong if that's actually true.
3:15:13
Yes, Little John. Little John.
3:15:14
Mel Brooks, Yeah. Who was the guy who who?
3:15:20
Who did Eyes Wide Shut? That was Kubrick.
3:15:25
Kubrick I got some other stuff, aren't Kubrick Yeah, you
3:15:28
definitely staged by. The way, just for all the Cowboy
3:15:32
fans, Micah Parsons will be a Cowboy before the season starts.
3:15:36
He will get his contract. He's going nowhere.
3:15:38
The only team that has a chance to get him is the Rams.
3:15:40
It's not happening. I want to see Aaron Donald in
3:15:43
him. That would I would.
3:15:45
I would love and by the way, Aaron Donald, man, I've been you
3:15:48
know, I follow his social medias.
3:15:50
That man could still play at the top of his dude.
3:15:53
The guy is built like an ox. I've never seen a guy his size
3:15:57
have an 8 pack. That guy has an 8 pack.
3:16:00
I it's it's unbelievable. It's.
3:16:02
It's crazy. It's absolutely.
3:16:06
I'm telling you, dude, that guy is is unbelievable.
3:16:10
And he came in, he was overweight and everybody was
3:16:12
from Pitt and they were like, oh, this guys overweight.
3:16:14
He's never going to amount to anything.
3:16:17
Teams passed up on him. I Odell Beckham, I think was
3:16:20
drafted before him. Right, And it was weird because
3:16:22
the the Rams weren't even like considered a team on on their
3:16:25
radar to take him because they had Michael Brockers and they
3:16:28
had Nick Fairley like they had set a defensive tackle and then
3:16:31
he just became. They just didn't realize he
3:16:33
wasn't fat Speedy. They didn't realize that some
3:16:36
guys that he was shorter. Some guys are just built thick
3:16:40
like. That you know when he hear
3:16:41
something crazy that I heard about him, he could do like 350
3:16:46
push ups without stopping. That's what I've heard.
3:16:48
That's what I've heard. I I couldn't believe it but
3:16:52
there was a story that I've read that he could go 350 push ups
3:16:56
without stopping full. It's like Saquon's build adding
3:17:00
like 50 lbs of muscle. It's crazy.
3:17:02
Yeah, he's pretty yoked. I'm not gonna lie.
3:17:05
He's pretty yoked. Yeah.
3:17:07
He's. Crazy.
3:17:08
He's crazy, I. Would love Vice much of the size
3:17:11
of my freaking legs. Dude, that guy, I've watched
3:17:15
this guy, his workouts and but I've never seen.
3:17:19
Yeah, I've seen that too. Yeah, that's ridiculous.
3:17:22
Bro what? How much?
3:17:23
What is he throwing up right there?
3:17:25
One 30s. That's like I've seen him do one
3:17:27
50s like that and do. It just pump him out incline no
3:17:31
problem. Do it like nothing, yeah.
3:17:33
Those are one 30s. I think the most I do now is
3:17:36
like 7. Warm up set.
3:17:38
Warm up set. You could do 70s.
3:17:39
I give you credit for that. Incline I could do 70s.
3:17:42
Incline. Yeah.
3:17:44
OK, that's not bad. That's like, did you ever hear
3:17:46
like when you see Aaron Donald, but like James Harrison, why he
3:17:49
always wore sweats? Yeah, he's massive.
3:17:52
Yeah, because he didn't want to embarrass everybody else, and he
3:17:54
wanted to make the sweat jealous, make the.
3:17:58
He always wore baggy sweats and the dude was monstrous.
3:18:01
Yeah, he's that guy's a a beast of a man.
3:18:05
I it is pretty crazy and but I what I saw TJ Watt doing the
3:18:10
other day doing handstand push ups and he did like 25 of them
3:18:13
at his size. I'm I'm sorry, as cool and crazy
3:18:18
what Aaron Donnell looks like and what he does is at TJ Watt.
3:18:22
That guy is a beast. That guy's a beast.
3:18:26
You go you guys, if you ever get a chance, I got to I'll find the
3:18:28
video. I think it's a TikTok video.
3:18:30
I was watching this guy do this. It's it's it's insane, insane
3:18:34
what this guy does. But anyways, all right, final
3:18:38
segment of the night. That's crazy.
3:18:39
King of the Hill. And here's the King of the Hill.
3:18:43
This, Bobby, is the Beltline. You never ever hit below that.
3:18:47
Not that kind of King of the hill, you dumb ready.
3:18:49
Are you ready? This is King of the Hill.
3:18:53
Smell my ass. Welcome to King of the.
3:18:56
Hill. I am a legend in this game.
3:18:58
We have to take on the king breaking arrows only ever.
3:19:02
Lost Woody. The first round is 4 competitors
3:19:07
in the peasant fight. The the king will decide who
3:19:10
moves on to the joust in round two and the winner gets to take
3:19:14
on the king for a chance to sit on his throne.
3:19:18
It's time. For King of the Hill.
3:19:21
Doo Doo. You guys ready to play?
3:19:23
Who do we got? Aaron's coming in, I believe.
3:19:26
So here we go. Suck my indoor.
3:19:28
Cameras. Ready for King of the Hill?
3:19:31
We got 4 competitors, Goody, our intern Aaron, Speedy and Jabba.
3:19:37
Let's get the first question up. We are doing all baseball
3:19:41
tonight. The peasant fight.
3:19:43
Here is the topic Best power hitting catchers of all time in
3:19:49
honor of the Major League Baseball League leader in Cal
3:19:54
Raleigh. So here we go.
3:19:57
Let's start it off down on the far corner with the big righty.
3:20:03
Well, I got 2 choices here, don't I?
3:20:04
So we'll go to the bottom right corner.
3:20:06
That's Jabba. Jabba, Speedy, Aaron and Goody
3:20:09
for two. You know what I mean?
3:20:13
I guess I'm just going to get it out of the way.
3:20:16
You got to go Piazza, obviously, over 400 homers.
3:20:21
I think he has the most 30 home run seasons.
3:20:24
If I recall he was number one in bacne also.
3:20:30
That's I think that's a great stat to have 1st.
3:20:34
I don't know if pizza bag help I.
3:20:36
Called it a pizza bag. That's what I used to.
3:20:38
Call pizza bag. Oh yeah, I don't know if you
3:20:43
want that type of sauce on your pizza.
3:20:49
Oh yeah. So I mean and and just signify
3:20:54
power at that position and an everyday catcher, it's got to be
3:20:58
considered one of the best. All right, Speedy.
3:21:03
I'll go with big better machine Mr. Johnny Bench, about 356 I
3:21:07
believe it was that he had in the 70s too, which catchers at
3:21:11
that time, there were only a couple of select few that were
3:21:13
hitting that many home runs at that time.
3:21:15
Obviously played with a great lineup too, but really turned
3:21:17
that program around and did it for a very, very long time.
3:21:20
So Johnny Bench. Aaron.
3:21:24
All right, so I'm going to go with Gary Carter.
3:21:27
Honestly, to be honest with you. I mean, he's considered one of
3:21:30
the best, best couches out there.
3:21:32
Obviously with the Mets in the 80s, doing what he did with,
3:21:35
like I said, with the Mets power hitting.
3:21:37
To be honest with you, I never really known him as a power
3:21:39
hitter, but obviously he's one of the better couches out there.
3:21:41
So all right. Goody 4. 2.
3:21:47
Nice pick, the great ones. I'm going to go with one of the
3:21:51
greats, Carlton Fisk. Over 370 homers and an 11 time
3:21:57
All Star. Not to mention as an AL rookie
3:21:59
of the year the guy was fantastic.
3:22:01
And my next pick I'm going to go with a one and only Yogi Berra.
3:22:06
Yogi Berra threw up over 350 home runs and he was the only
3:22:11
player to win 10 World Series, most by any player of all time.
3:22:18
Yogi Yoga. See, the best part of the best
3:22:21
part of that is he's actually not half the reading off a
3:22:24
computer. He actually knows that.
3:22:26
So I'll give him credit for that.
3:22:29
Hey, hey, the Yolkster was pretty tight.
3:22:32
He was pretty good back in what, the 40s?
3:22:36
Nice job. A little bit about Yogi.
3:22:38
Hey, by the way, one of the craziest stats of Yogi, I don't
3:22:40
know. There's one year he had over 600
3:22:42
at bats, nearly struck out eight times.
3:22:45
Yes, I don't care. I don't care what area you're
3:22:48
in. Like to have a 600 and punch out
3:22:50
eight times? Yeah, well, they're also
3:22:52
throwing 50, but still, that's incredible.
3:22:55
He. Swung a 44 oz bat.
3:22:57
Or the other thing is, is how many of those homers came in the
3:23:00
postseason? I mean, the guy won 10 World
3:23:03
Series, so like, he's hitting meaningful home runs in the
3:23:06
postseason. Running out of fingers, dog.
3:23:08
Blow my back out. Moving on, second round, Aaron.
3:23:13
All right, I'm going to stay in my era.
3:23:15
I'm going to go with Salvador Perez.
3:23:17
I mean, honestly, yes, he's still in his career.
3:23:19
He's still pretty young, but when he's there, he really puts
3:23:22
on his power swing. He's obviously a robots
3:23:24
champion. The Royals still pretty young.
3:23:29
To be honest, I thought he was always older.
3:23:30
But I'm going to go with Salvador Perez.
3:23:32
He's really someone that can hit the ball out.
3:23:35
From the goal with him. Speedy.
3:23:38
All right, I'll go with another one in Yogi Berra's era.
3:23:40
Not as good of a home run here as him, but still very good at
3:23:43
over 250, I believe. And that was Roy Campanella for
3:23:46
the Brooklyn Dodgers. Damn it Speedy, that was mine.
3:23:48
Yep, and I think I used him another one we had in the past
3:23:51
too as one of the, I guess, greatest catchers ever.
3:23:53
But definitely again for that time too.
3:23:55
Not a lot of catchers hitting home runs, but last night's
3:23:57
probably Yogi Berra and a few others like him having the
3:24:01
consistency, the longevity that he had as well.
3:24:03
So I'll go with him. Yeah, but there's another one
3:24:05
out there. You play with them.
3:24:06
I know I was going to do that, but I wanted to use Campanella
3:24:10
too, because he would have had even more had he not got hurt
3:24:16
and in the wreck and the way he did it.
3:24:18
But yeah, he's he's great, obviously.
3:24:19
Yeah, I'm. I'm going to go Pudge.
3:24:23
No, no, I wasn't being a pudge. Oh, you weren't?
3:24:25
Well, I played with Pudge too. I think it's Bada.
3:24:29
Oh no no, that wasn't the first one.
3:24:35
I they're both ported and. Stuff Jabba was Jabba was
3:24:39
scarred by the urine. Well, we know what Jabba's going
3:24:43
with that whole thing, no? Yeah, no, I mean, I just, you
3:24:47
know, pledged for doing it as long as he did.
3:24:50
I see why he threw out a lot of people because I had him and he
3:24:53
every time a runner was on fastball away.
3:24:55
Fastball. I don't want to throw a fastball
3:24:56
away. I know you want to throw
3:24:57
somebody out, but no. And you know, hitting over 300
3:25:01
homers, I don't know if he got to 350, but hit for average too.
3:25:06
And I think just to do it for as long as he did and how he didn't
3:25:13
really let off. And obviously he's probably in
3:25:15
the conversation of steroids, which kind of everybody in that
3:25:18
era. But to be an everyday catcher to
3:25:21
hit over 3300 homers and I think he was close to hitting 300 as
3:25:25
an average to he just got to go down longevity and 300 homers at
3:25:28
that position is just, and he was one of the guys I looked up
3:25:32
to grown up. So that was kind of cool too.
3:25:35
All. Right Java next pick last round.
3:25:39
My last round I'm going to have to go with and I've used him
3:25:43
before and I'm a Braves Homer. So I'm obviously going to have
3:25:48
to use Javi Lopez. You know, it was obviously up
3:25:52
there for most homers in a year. And Fish and I kind of talked
3:25:55
about this. There's there's a lot of guys we
3:25:56
could throw up there that had those one years.
3:25:59
You know, we're like, hey, but we got you still got to use
3:26:01
them. Maybe not for career wise, but
3:26:03
you know, records are meant to be broken.
3:26:05
And he said that was 42, you know, hit over 250 homers, play
3:26:10
for some great teams, caught some great guys.
3:26:14
I'm just I was a huge Javi Lopez fan.
3:26:16
I was a big Eddie Perez fan too. Still I.
3:26:18
Like Eddie Perez. Yeah, but, and I guess I like
3:26:22
Puerto Rican catchers, so I guess that's that's the way I'm
3:26:25
going. All right, Speedy.
3:26:27
I'll round it out with another Atlanta Braves catcher that
3:26:29
probably would have had about 3:50 if he didn't get hurt a
3:26:31
lot. Brian McCann I think was
3:26:33
consistently top five, top ten throughout his career with the
3:26:35
Braves. I wasn't probably to the level
3:26:38
of a Joe Mauer, Buster Posey at that time, but still probably in
3:26:40
the next year. Overall, very good left-handed
3:26:42
power. So I'll round him out with Brian
3:26:45
McCann as much as I couldn't stand him as a match fan.
3:26:48
Aaron. I'll run mine off with Yadi and
3:26:52
Molina. I know he didn't have a lot of
3:26:53
home runs, but he did have a big presence at the place, so I was
3:26:57
going to stick with that, go with Molina.
3:27:00
All right, and goody finish it off.
3:27:02
I'm going Jorge Posada, another Yankee, another Yankee.
3:27:05
Great. How could you not?
3:27:06
Over 270 home runs. The guy was the center point for
3:27:10
the World Series runs. They had five time All Star.
3:27:13
What do they want? He went 3-4 World Series with
3:27:15
the New York Yankees and he might be the new New York
3:27:18
Yankees future manager here next year, depending on what happens
3:27:21
with Mr. Boone. So we'll see.
3:27:23
Could the could the captain the captain?
3:27:28
What's what's underneath the captain?
3:27:30
Co captain, Assistant captain? Could the Co captain take over?
3:27:33
Lieutenant. Could the Lieutenant take over
3:27:36
the captain of the ship here in New York?
3:27:38
We'll find out. But hey, they got hit over 270
3:27:41
homers and he was a freaking beast.
3:27:44
I don't know how he was as a teammate.
3:27:45
I heard multiple different things.
3:27:47
But end of the day, he showed up, he showed out and he put on
3:27:50
a show for the Yankee fans. I shook him off my first my
3:27:53
first ever outing. I shook him off 3/2.
3:27:57
He's he's Derek Jeter's bitch. How'd that go?
3:28:02
I shook him off till he called what I wanted.
3:28:05
And. I punched him out.
3:28:08
And then what did he say? Don't.
3:28:10
They didn't say anything because I punched him out.
3:28:12
He didn't even know who I was. I was witnessing the chocolate.
3:28:15
Rolls. Yeah, then they finally knew.
3:28:18
I mean, most thought I was from Alaska.
3:28:20
Alex thought I was from Africa. Nobody knew who the hell I was.
3:28:22
Green Pie. Duba I.
3:28:25
I probably would have put. Buster.
3:28:27
Posey in because he had a lot of power before he got hurt.
3:28:31
I thought he was one of those guys, too.
3:28:32
But Errol, who's moving on? I'm going to.
3:28:36
Let you pick. Me.
3:28:38
Yeah, OK, I'll. Let you pick.
3:28:40
I'm going to, I'm, I think I'm going to go, I'm going to go
3:28:46
Goody. You know what?
3:28:48
I don't think we've done this before.
3:28:50
Let's go Goody and Jabba. I was facing off.
3:28:52
I was waiting for him to do that.
3:28:55
I don't think we've done that. Let's let's go Former teammates
3:29:01
facing off in what? In the joust.
3:29:05
Here it is. Let's see what the joust best
3:29:14
fielding first baseman. That's.
3:29:17
Easy over the last 50 years dating back to the mid mid 70s.
3:29:23
All right, So I don't want to hear like about Lou Gehrig's,
3:29:26
you know, scooping you. Don't want to hear about Billy
3:29:29
Bucks? Well he would be included,
3:29:32
pulled it out of my but I don't think I would choose him for
3:29:34
this. See if Goody was still doing
3:29:35
ChatGPT for for this one, he'd be searching the the most Gold
3:29:38
Gloves in the 1920s. I gave up the booty there.
3:29:42
All right, Errol, who's going first?
3:29:45
I'm going to let Jabba go first. Oh man, I'm I'm going to be
3:29:52
super, super biased. I'm I'm going to go text just he
3:29:59
was good. That's a good pick.
3:30:01
I've never I, I, I had Gianbi before, so I didn't have.
3:30:06
I agreed. Geez, one of my dearest friends.
3:30:09
I love him to death. He would throw knuckleballs back
3:30:12
to you from if you picked the first.
3:30:14
So it scared the shit out of me because some would be really
3:30:16
good, some would be bad. So like then I get text over
3:30:19
there. I love text but we all hated
3:30:22
text so much because he got to everything and we would break to
3:30:27
cover first, but he would take it every time.
3:30:29
I'm like if I'm running my fat ass over there, like can I get
3:30:32
it? Me and see would bitch about it
3:30:34
all the time. I'm like, man, if we run it over
3:30:36
there, like come on man, give me.
3:30:37
Some love, but just. Consistently how he just he
3:30:42
could pick it, he could cover ground, he saved you runs and he
3:30:49
is the greatest chewer of food of all time.
3:30:52
He counts, he counts his chews. I mean, the dude did everything
3:30:55
with a purpose and it was nice having that right side of the
3:31:00
infield, Robinson, Cano and Sashara.
3:31:02
I felt real good when when you got on the bump, that's for
3:31:05
sure. That's a good pick.
3:31:07
I'm just going. To go back and forth so you
3:31:09
don't have to go 2 times. So just a goodie and I was.
3:31:11
Sleeping on text, but I'm going with the gold standard at first
3:31:15
base. I'm talking about Pete Hernandez
3:31:18
is the gold standard played what he played 15 years or something
3:31:23
in the show 1 what, 11 gold gloves, five time All Star
3:31:32
basement and you think about glove work and footwork and like
3:31:36
the skill that it takes to play first base and where to be on
3:31:40
cut offs. And how could you not put Keith
3:31:43
Hernandez up at the top? I mean the guy, the guy, look at
3:31:47
this. I mean, that's what you want to
3:31:51
teach your kids. You know, I mean, my son would
3:31:54
be like, why is it so grainy? But I did like this is the gold
3:31:57
standard of first base Keith Hernandez.
3:31:58
That's my, that's my thing. Jabba, yeah, I do like that one
3:32:05
and it's I could go Yankees deep in this one too.
3:32:10
I'm going to go one who like I think was under looked.
3:32:14
He did play for the Yankees, but I think he was very underrated
3:32:18
and almost he had a 995 career fielding percentage and that's
3:32:24
John Olerud. Wow, 1 Gold Gloves, obviously
3:32:29
Yankees. Did he play with the Mets?
3:32:33
Yeah, yeah. And then obviously the Blue Jays
3:32:37
and then to to obviously have a brain aneurysm and to come back.
3:32:40
And I just, it was somebody who was very methodical, smooth and
3:32:46
just, it was always, it wasn't flashy, but just to be able to
3:32:50
see him, I had to look up. I'm obviously I didn't know that
3:32:53
he was that good. I obviously liked him as a first
3:32:55
baseman because I played first two because I was too fat and
3:32:59
slow to do anything else. But I can pick it.
3:33:02
But yeah, to have a career in 17 years, to have a 995 career and
3:33:07
and save, I mean, that just makes obviously your guys
3:33:10
better. So yeah, John Oliver's my dude.
3:33:12
The rah rah shish Kumba all. Right, dude?
3:33:17
Dude almost hit 300 for his career he's like 295.
3:33:20
Yeah, well, then they got the next guy that I'm going with was
3:33:24
an elite hitter, so I think his defense was overshadowed.
3:33:28
I watched him when I grew up. His name's Eddie Murray.
3:33:32
Eddie Murray was a three time Gold Glove winner.
3:33:34
I don't know how many All Stars he had, definitely over 555 time
3:33:42
All Star, but. You're not looking that up.
3:33:47
Yet he was balanced. He hit well, played the field
3:33:53
obviously really well, and he had a very long career at first
3:33:57
base. And I mean what I mean, what
3:33:59
could you not? What could you say?
3:34:01
I mean, the guy was the guy did it all.
3:34:03
Not only did he field and pick the ball or not, but he was a
3:34:06
great hitter. And that's what I'm saying.
3:34:07
I think his fielding got was overshadowed because of how good
3:34:10
of a hitter he was. Fish What did he hit for his
3:34:12
career? Folks, First off, 8 time All
3:34:15
Star was a rookie of the year, never MVP, but he won Gold Glove
3:34:20
and Silver Sluggard 2 years in a row.
3:34:23
Three time Gold Glove like you're saying 287 hit her 504
3:34:27
home runs. There you go, I'm.
3:34:29
Pretty sure he's a Hall of Famer.
3:34:31
Yes, he. Is yeah, yes.
3:34:33
Good. 100%. I was in.
3:34:35
I was in Baltimore two years ago.
3:34:36
I came in the yard. I know he has his own IPA
3:34:38
apparently. 21 year career. 21 year career at first base come
3:34:44
on what did he what was his fielding percentage 990 I'm
3:34:47
gonna. Have to go in a.
3:34:49
Little deep 995 like that guy was elite Mercedes.
3:34:52
Benz baseman until like the I mean at the end when he was
3:34:57
bouncing from teams, he was mostly ADH 20. 50.
3:35:01
He the last fold glove he won was in his eighth year of his
3:35:05
career, but he was probably a top fielder for over a decade.
3:35:08
That's called sex. Yeah.
3:35:10
All right. Last ones, boys.
3:35:12
Jabba. I'm going to go maybe a little
3:35:17
overlooked more for his hitting, but I'm gonna go Todd Hilton,
3:35:21
LSU Tiger. Yeah, he would.
3:35:23
That's great quarterback too, by the way.
3:35:26
Some of these guys I got to watch a little bit more.
3:35:27
Obviously being in, you know, the middle of the country, being
3:35:30
able to see Colorado. I don't know if he's ever
3:35:32
platinum, but I know he won three or four and I think they
3:35:35
were back-to-back if I recall, did it all with one team I think
3:35:42
went underrated. Let me look up what his.
3:35:47
I'm pretty sure he was a top tier guy for a long time. 17
3:35:53
years from 97. OK, where's it at?
3:35:56
He was a 996 guy for and he played first base most of his
3:36:00
career. He didn't didn't really do that
3:36:02
DH and stuff. So yeah, I'm going to go Todd
3:36:04
Hilton. Yeah, another three time Gold
3:36:06
Glover. Kind of similar profile as
3:36:09
Murray. Obviously Coors Field assisted a
3:36:12
lot. Pretty 316 career hitter.
3:36:16
Pretty pretty well read 16 yeah, he's overshadowed.
3:36:18
His offense is overshadowing his his defense.
3:36:21
His defensive play was there. I wonder how many runs he's
3:36:23
saying. 53 OPS career. It's pretty impressive.
3:36:28
All right, Goody winning. So I'm going to go with somebody
3:36:32
I also watched while I grew up. Pretty pretty smooth, really
3:36:39
fundamental, not the gold standard like Keith Hernandez,
3:36:44
but somebody that you couldn't just you can't overlook it.
3:36:47
And he had a 15 year career Mark Grace, four time Gold Glover,
3:36:52
two time All Star. Somebody went, he went raw.
3:36:56
No BGS. Yeah, what?
3:36:58
It was exact. I mean, the guy is the guy is
3:37:01
everything you want in the first base.
3:37:02
He's big, he's physical. He's going to make the place,
3:37:05
he's going to pick it. Like I said, it was smooth,
3:37:09
excellent fundamentals, great instincts when you watch, if you
3:37:13
you know, I don't know if people watch baseball like we probably
3:37:17
look at it through a different lens, Java and I than a lot of
3:37:20
people do. Oh, I'm watching how like all
3:37:22
right, when the pitch is being made.
3:37:25
How are you being right? Are you one too hot being ready?
3:37:28
Is this somebody who did to AT was extremely diligent in the
3:37:36
way that he went about his work and I enjoyed watching Mark
3:37:39
Grace play first base. It was fun.
3:37:41
Not as much as Keith Fernandez because Keith was making all the
3:37:44
crazy plays, but Mark Grace was fun to watch 90. 9%.
3:37:47
I don't know how neither of you said Don Mattingly, but I have.
3:37:51
No idea that it was there was a there was a bunch.
3:37:54
It's Keith and then Don Matting. Yeah, that was sort of two best.
3:37:57
To me, I don't know, but Errol, who's moving on.
3:38:00
I'll let you pick. See, I'm not ready to make those
3:38:08
decisions. Speedy, I'll let you pick.
3:38:11
Well, yeah, they represent the fundamentals of Keith Hernandez.
3:38:14
I'll go goody on this one. All right, fair enough.
3:38:17
Let's get everybody back in. We're going to have the face off
3:38:20
here, so. Mattingly with a good one roll
3:38:23
up the hitman. Mattingly 9 time.
3:38:26
Gold Glover. Nine time.
3:38:29
And he was an MVP, Gold Glove and Silver Slugger in the same
3:38:32
year in 1985. You know, my but one of my best
3:38:34
friends play for Don Mattingly and didn't really like him too
3:38:36
much so. You know, I kind of want to talk
3:38:39
to you about that off the air because I've always wondered why
3:38:41
he's what's the deal with that? But here we are the finalists
3:38:44
again. Let's get everybody in to vote
3:38:46
so we can be in the bottom. Here it is last round take on
3:38:52
the king most underappreciated star players in MLB history.
3:39:01
Can't ChatGPT that one now, can you?
3:39:04
This is your opinion. Who do you feel is
3:39:08
underappreciated? Who do you feel should have
3:39:11
gotten a little bit more love? And it can't just be like a role
3:39:13
player has to be someone who was, you know, at one point in
3:39:16
time considered a star. So this is really kind of
3:39:20
subjective here. And it should be fun boys last
3:39:24
round. The king of the.
3:39:26
Hill, Harold. First or second I'll.
3:39:29
Let him go first. Let's hear.
3:39:31
It all right, goody, all right. First guy I'm going to go with,
3:39:36
underrated player, somebody who I like, who came to Yankees camp
3:39:41
quite often, not invited back to Yankees camp.
3:39:47
And I'm talking about the Gooseman Gossage.
3:39:50
Goose Gossage gets a lot of hate, feel like he was
3:39:54
underrated, but one of the all time save leaders.
3:39:58
He's that he's a he's a Hall of Fame reliever, very outspoken as
3:40:02
we know, but he got overshadowed by Mariano Vera when he when he
3:40:09
when he came and and obviously the public just crushed him.
3:40:12
Public absolutely crushed him. And I feel like he's one of
3:40:14
those guys. I was slipping through the
3:40:15
cracks, but he was an he's underrated, one of the best
3:40:18
relievers of all time. Goose gasage, Errol.
3:40:24
Balls. You don't like him, Jabba?
3:40:27
Dude, he freaking came out when I fist pumped.
3:40:30
He's like, this isn't the Yankee way I go.
3:40:32
Mickey Rivers is jumping on the golf cart.
3:40:34
Not for yelling at you not to come in.
3:40:35
And you guys fought. Shut up, Goose.
3:40:37
Yes, I heard about that story. Yeah, I found out a damn
3:40:40
Cheesecake Factory International Plaza in Tampa.
3:40:44
That I heard about that. He told that story to me.
3:40:47
He told that. Story.
3:40:49
What a Dick king. Errol.
3:40:54
I'm going to go with the greatest DH of all time, with
3:40:57
those silly, the Seattle Mariners, those guys that stand
3:41:00
out. Everybody talks about Randy
3:41:01
Johnson, You talk about Alex Rodriguez, Ken Griffey, junior.
3:41:05
Did everybody forget about the greatest DH in Edgar Martinez?
3:41:09
I mean, seriously, one of the most underrated players in Major
3:41:13
League history the way he was. I mean, he was the most
3:41:16
important part of that lineup if you really look at it, besides
3:41:19
Ken Griffey junior. I mean, Alex Rodriguez says he's
3:41:22
the greatest player besides Ken Griffey junior he's ever played
3:41:25
with. So I'm going to go with Edgar
3:41:27
Martinez. The awards named after him.
3:41:30
Now I. Mean that guy killed the
3:41:33
Yankees. I just as a kid, I remember him
3:41:35
killing us every time. Goody, I'm going to go with the
3:41:38
Cleveland Indian 2nd baseman, Sandy's brother, Roberto Alamar.
3:41:51
Roberto Alamar, all right? When we talk about second base,
3:41:56
when we talk about having the hands, when we talk about the
3:41:59
accolades, we talk about the gold standard, the the gym Mint
3:42:05
10, the PSA 10. We're talking about Roberto
3:42:08
Alamar. This guy over 10 time All Star 9
3:42:14
or 10 Gold Gloves Hall of Famer, he still does it at this age.
3:42:18
If you watch his hands, how quick they are, their lightning
3:42:21
speed. This is somebody that Francisco
3:42:23
then door looked up to, and to me, I don't think he was.
3:42:27
He was known, but I think because he played for a smaller
3:42:30
market team, he wasn't very well known as he didn't get them as
3:42:34
much love and respect as he should.
3:42:36
And he's definitely somebody you want to model your game after.
3:42:41
If you're a middle infield or even if you play just any
3:42:44
position in the infielding guy is incredible.
3:42:47
I think the Hot Tua girl modeled her game after him too.
3:42:50
Now over here, you guys don't get that member of the.
3:42:53
Spinning. I see what you I see what you
3:42:55
did there. No, no, nobody.
3:42:57
I see what you did there. It's.
3:42:58
Late. Yeah, well, Errol spinning on
3:43:00
it, what you got #2? I'm going to go with another
3:43:04
Cleveland Guardians player. Yeah, fuck.
3:43:08
You. Kenny Lofton.
3:43:10
That's my next. That's my next pick.
3:43:12
Dick. Kenny Lofton, 6 All Stars, 4
3:43:15
Gold Gloves. I mean, everything about him,
3:43:18
2400 career hits, 600 stolen bases.
3:43:22
I mean, he was really the heart and soul of those Cleveland
3:43:27
Guardian teams. I, I mean, he was a sensational
3:43:29
player. He hit 296 with 23 stolen bases
3:43:33
and a 367 base on base percentage.
3:43:37
So I'm going to, I'm going to go with Kenny Lofton.
3:43:42
Pretty. Good.
3:43:42
He's He should. Be a hall of.
3:43:43
Famer Kenny Lofton should be a Hall of Famer.
3:43:45
Yeah. I don't understand how he's not
3:43:47
in, but I'm going to go with another Cleveland Indians
3:43:49
player, slash guardian player, and I'm going with the current
3:43:53
Jose Ramirez, one of my good friends, somebody I played with,
3:43:57
somebody who I love and adore. My what?
3:43:59
Happened. He's one of the best.
3:44:02
Players in the league, yeah, but he's underrated.
3:44:08
He's he's just now starting to get the notoriety that he
3:44:11
should. Prior to that he it was Jose
3:44:14
Ramirez. Nobody cared because he plays
3:44:16
for a smaller market or mid market team in Cleveland.
3:44:19
People don't get to watch him on that big stage.
3:44:21
You don't Cleveland doesn't get Sunday night baseball every time
3:44:23
like a Yankees or a dodgers or a Mets or a Braves or somebody
3:44:27
like that. But this guy's A7 time All Star,
3:44:30
five time Silver Slugger, all MLB first team last year and he
3:44:36
he's basically on pace to set every record for Cleveland
3:44:40
offensively. He's also I think he just hit
3:44:43
the two 5250 club home runs and stolen bases.
3:44:47
So he's the first third baseman in MLB history to do so.
3:44:53
And just now that he's starting to get the notoriety he's
3:44:55
deserved for the past what, 8 years?
3:44:58
He's one of the best and not only that, he's AI thought he
3:45:01
was a really good teammate as well.
3:45:02
Oh. It's dope.
3:45:04
Yeah, he's great. Rhyme is great.
3:45:06
Hosey. I call him Chivo, but.
3:45:11
He was, he was, he was to my left and he had to be like
3:45:13
puppy, puppy. Look at my shoes.
3:45:15
Look at my shoes. Look at my shoes.
3:45:17
Yeah. What pitch is that?
3:45:19
All wrong pitch Jose Ramirez. You like finish off the game bro
3:45:26
ah. Yeah, OK.
3:45:28
So nobody, nobody gave him his credit at first base as a
3:45:32
defensive player, but I'm going to have to give him credit for
3:45:35
his career. And that's Donnie Baseball.
3:45:38
Don Mattingly. Never gets the respect that he
3:45:41
deserves on A5 year span. I don't think anybody has the
3:45:45
numbers this guy has as an offensive player.
3:45:48
I mean the guy was a power hitter.
3:45:51
If he didn't hurt his back he could have gone down as one of
3:45:53
the greatest if not the greatest first baseman of all time.
3:45:56
Besides Keith Hernandez, I would say he's the second greatest
3:45:59
defensively. Offensively, Keith Hernandez
3:46:02
never played the game offensively in a five year span.
3:46:06
If you look at Keith Hernandez, numbers of his best years could
3:46:09
even come close to the comparison of Donnie Baseball
3:46:12
did it in New York. He just never, he never won a
3:46:16
championship and a lot of people will look at that.
3:46:18
But as far as his talents concerned, defense to offense,
3:46:23
very few Yankees you can compare to him as a defensive offensive
3:46:26
player. I'm going Donnie Baseball.
3:46:28
That's my final guy. All right.
3:46:31
We're going to go through our votes now.
3:46:33
I'll start it off. I'm going to vote for Errol.
3:46:36
I think the whole point of this was underrated star players, and
3:46:40
these are three guys, one who took forever to get into the
3:46:43
Hall of Fame and shouldn't, and two that still aren't in and
3:46:46
should be. I think that kind of defines
3:46:48
what I was looking for. That's why I didn't understand
3:46:50
the Ramirez thing, I mean. Well, I and the other thing is
3:46:52
Gossage is a Hall of Famer, Roberto Alamar is a Hall of
3:46:55
Famer, and Ramirez will probably be a Hall of Famer.
3:46:58
Well, that's the way I looked at it.
3:46:59
I wanted to look at guys that are.
3:47:01
I'm not there. I thought that was good.
3:47:03
Look, I think Jose Ramirez is underrated as well because.
3:47:06
He's all of famous. The top five, he's a top five,
3:47:09
the top ten player in baseball, and people don't really think of
3:47:12
him that way, and they should. I think I think Goody's right
3:47:14
about that, but I think your picks were right on point,
3:47:18
Aaron. So I'm going to have to disagree
3:47:20
with you guys. I'm going to go with Goody,
3:47:21
actually, because I do believe the Ramirez, like the way that I
3:47:26
perceive him right at all the older guys.
3:47:28
Yeah, I know the careers, but I've never watched them.
3:47:30
So Ramirez, I've seen it up up close and personal.
3:47:34
No one respects him. Great player every time.
3:47:37
That's. Why?
3:47:38
And that's the way I always see it, Like he could be a top a
3:47:42
couple. Was it a couple years ago?
3:47:44
MVP talks but overshadowed by everyone.
3:47:47
Listen, I don't care if you took him, but is that the only reason
3:47:50
why you picked Goody Ramirez? For me, yeah, do.
3:47:55
You even let me ask you a question.
3:47:57
Let me ask you a question. My question to you.
3:47:59
My one question. Do you even know who Edgar
3:48:01
Martinez is? Do you know?
3:48:03
Oh, yeah. Who is he?
3:48:04
Who is he? Who is he?
3:48:06
He's. The DH for the Mariners.
3:48:07
DH for the Mariners? Do you know what he did for the
3:48:10
Mariners? Dude, he was a good player for
3:48:13
the Mariners. You know what he.
3:48:14
Did without knowing what they're talking about all the time.
3:48:17
I'm just in everything. I've just said, I've just said,
3:48:21
you know. Your audience.
3:48:22
In 2016, when Trump beat Hillary Clinton, 15,000 people voted for
3:48:27
the dead gorilla Harambe. I wrote the name in.
3:48:32
Kanye. Here's another.
3:48:32
Gorilla Hey, just just that's. True story.
3:48:36
Here's another up and coming Cleveland Indian that they're
3:48:39
comparing to Jose Ramirez. Angel Martinez switch here.
3:48:45
I should go grab him my fantasy team.
3:48:49
If if it's a dynasty team, maybe.
3:48:51
Yeah, I was just. Going to say he's not, he's not
3:48:52
there yet. He's still a little bit of ways
3:48:53
away. Yeah, but they're they're
3:48:55
they're giving comps the cozy. OK.
3:48:59
All right, let's go on the speedy.
3:49:01
So I actually think because Goody took reliever and and a
3:49:05
second baseman to that, I think kind of get undervalued to I'm
3:49:08
actually going to lean him slightly.
3:49:09
I think the argument for Goose gotchas was very good because I
3:49:12
think you look at that time with Raleigh Fingers and Dennis
3:49:15
Eckersley, even in the 80s, Lee Smith, there were other
3:49:17
relievers I think didn't get as much attention.
3:49:19
So I think this description of that was good and even second
3:49:22
base too when you when you look at.
3:49:23
Like all the Hall of Famers, that's not what we're playing
3:49:26
here. You.
3:49:27
If I was going to do that, I could have went with Hall of
3:49:29
Farmers, too. That's not the game you.
3:49:32
Guys are listening, you just got to just.
3:49:34
Dude, I'll give you the win. He doesn't like an uneducated
3:49:38
electorate. It doesn't.
3:49:39
How ironic it. Doesn't make.
3:49:41
Sense. Are you kidding me?
3:49:42
They're they were. At the time, they were not.
3:49:45
How does that make sense to Hall of Famers?
3:49:49
They get their respect. That's not the way that that's.
3:49:52
Not they got the respect. After they're Hall of Famers,
3:49:56
dude, they're all. Of Famers.
3:49:57
All right, Jabba, you can. You are going to decide Errol is
3:50:03
trailing 2 to one. Yeah, Errol's hot right now.
3:50:06
You know what you want to. Do Java.
3:50:07
No. I How are you voting?
3:50:10
I I, I like what Speedy said too, even though I can't stand
3:50:14
Goose, but he tried to make good graces with me.
3:50:16
So it's water under the bridge. Whatever I I do like obviously
3:50:20
Errol made good points of who they were, but you could have
3:50:24
done Hall of Farmers. But I'd like goodies take on the
3:50:27
fact that like they got their do credit after the fact.
3:50:32
Like it wasn't as it was happening.
3:50:34
They did become Hall of Farmers. So yeah, I'm going with good.
3:50:38
Let's go. And that means the king has been
3:50:42
dethroned. Oh my goodness, say it ain't so.
3:50:47
Let's put him right at the top, right here, and announce for the
3:50:54
world to see Nick Goody. Let's go, baby.
3:50:58
And all his Charizard holograms. I will say are now king, I will
3:51:03
say this, I don't care if he won, but that made no sense.
3:51:07
I I really don't get that Hall of Famers or Hall of farmers.
3:51:10
If that was the case, I would have went with Hall of Farmers
3:51:13
and was it, well, this guy that's.
3:51:14
Going to would you have gone with?
3:51:15
It's would you have gone the? Most underrated players of all
3:51:18
time, that's. Who would you have gone with?
3:51:21
What do you mean Hall of Farmers?
3:51:22
I can go with a lot of guys. You want me to name some of
3:51:25
them? What's your name?
3:51:26
A couple. Hall of Famers of all time that
3:51:29
I could just pull out of my ass all.
3:51:31
Right, that are that are underrated.
3:51:32
All right, underrated Pudge Martinez, Pudge Rodriguez.
3:51:36
Pudge Rodriguez is one of them. I would go at Pudge if I, as far
3:51:41
as catches are concerned, if I'm looking at, I would go.
3:51:45
I don't. Feel like he was underrated bro.
3:51:46
Nobody wanted to steal on him. He was one of the best.
3:51:49
Players in the game. He was underrated compared to
3:51:51
all the other catchers. How about Todd Hilton?
3:51:54
How about Todd Hilton? Hilton, I could say, is one.
3:51:57
Yeah, all. Right.
3:51:58
So I could have went with a lot of guys.
3:51:59
If I sat here and thought of them, I would have.
3:52:02
I would have pulled. Larry Walker I thought was one.
3:52:05
A guy like that too was like. I mean, you don't you, Larry.
3:52:09
Walker could have been. You don't when you're saying
3:52:11
most underrated players of all time.
3:52:13
Those are the guys that never got their their due, and that's
3:52:18
Billy Wagner. Could have been won then.
3:52:20
That's why they're not in the Hall of Fame.
3:52:21
Billy Wagner would have been a good pick for this that.
3:52:23
Billy. Wagner.
3:52:24
Is another one. You'd have picked that, so it's.
3:52:27
I didn't. Think we were talking about it
3:52:29
now. It's all right.
3:52:30
We're letting you get this out. Errol, you lost your crown.
3:52:33
You did not like the fact that the democracy.
3:52:35
No, I don't. I I don't get it.
3:52:38
That's not what that's not. What?
3:52:40
A lot of people didn't understand what happened in
3:52:42
November either. Well, I I doubt that's not what
3:52:46
everybody thought, only you, because I you know why.
3:52:49
But that's the whole nother. Thing I would say, you know, 47%
3:52:52
of the country and like 20% Russian population, you know
3:52:55
they they are the ones that. And that's why.
3:52:57
And that's why, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to be
3:53:00
with him right now. Anyways, that's it for our show,
3:53:03
ladies and gentlemen. I hope everybody enjoyed it.
3:53:06
I didn't. Anyways, thank you to our very
3:53:12
special guests. They were fantastic.
3:53:13
They really were. I I appreciate both of them.
3:53:17
I will say this, I I'm definitely going to reach out to
3:53:20
Bob Rathben for joining us. He's sensational.
3:53:24
He really was. And and Mr. Lovic, dude, I've
3:53:27
been dealing with my own shit during the show.
3:53:30
I don't know if you guys would have done the show when you when
3:53:32
you get a freaking text the way you did knowing that your
3:53:35
sister's in the hospital. So I've been dealing with that
3:53:38
over the last 4 1/2 hours. I don't know if I'm going to
3:53:42
Saint John's after this. I might, I might do that.
3:53:44
I don't know. So, but anyways, a thank you to
3:53:48
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3:54:06
As always. We'll be back on Mondays and
3:54:09
Monday and Wednesday. Speedy, do we have any guests?
3:54:12
Niche. I was Nathan for getting this
3:54:13
one. On Monday at 8:45 we have Jaden
3:54:15
Fielder. Donald Trump, Donald.
3:54:18
Trump, Jaden Fielder, Who is the son?
3:54:20
That's when Fish won't be the executive producer of the show.
3:54:22
Wrong. Jaden Fielder, the son of Prince
3:54:25
Fielder and the grandson of Cecil Fielder, left fielder and
3:54:29
2nd baseman, is currently in the Milwaukee Brewers organization
3:54:31
will be joining us at 8:45 tender.
3:54:34
Anyways, there you go. So we got somebody on Monday.
3:54:37
We'll probably have a couple more guys on Wednesday.
3:54:40
Yeah, it was a good one. And as always, we have to go.
3:54:45
It's what is anybody? Is anybody doing anything fun on
3:54:48
the weekend? I am.
3:54:49
I'm going. Out.
3:54:50
Who cares what you're doing? Anybody else have anything fun
3:54:54
to do over the weekend? I might go to a card show and
3:54:57
offload some of these Pokémon. Cards.
3:55:00
There you go. It sounds like a good time I I
3:55:02
think. My son is like stoked about it
3:55:05
if we go, so yeah. Well, I'm, I'm, it's my, it's my
3:55:09
niece's birthday. We're going down to see her.
3:55:11
Happy birthday. Happy.
3:55:12
Birthday. How old is she 22 and where are
3:55:16
you going? Going to be right by you down on
3:55:19
the in Strong Island. Long Island.
3:55:23
The old, the old fish pot, the old.
3:55:27
Snatch one the Long Island Ducks card goody nice.
3:55:31
Island Ducks. Neutral ambush, not encouraging,
3:55:34
1 hairstyle dead man. 'S Dick.
3:55:36
All right, that's it. Good night, everybody.
3:55:38
We'll talk to you then. It's the worldwide sports radio
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