Latest / The TechTrends Podcast / Safaricom Business: Powering Progress for Large Enterprises | Ft. Henry Muturi
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- 0:09Hello and welcome to another episode of the Tech Trans
- 0:12Podcast. As I always say, this podcast is
- 0:15where we unpack the innovation strategies that are shaping the
- 0:19business in Africa. My name is Nikan Ali and welcome
- 0:23today conversations. It's about something very every
- 0:26large enterprise is grappling with right now.
- 0:30Think about how to scale secure and stay competitive in
- 0:34increasing digital fast world because you know, we look at it
- 0:39whether you're in banking and factoring logistics and even
- 0:43government, your ability to operate innovative growth is now
- 0:47directly tied to the digital infrastructure.
- 0:50And it's a conversation that we're going to be having today
- 0:52with a very, very interesting guest who will join us at the
- 0:55port, you know, in our studio. And in Kenya today, very few
- 0:58companies sit at the center of that infrastructure.
- 1:02Like Safari from business streets are a company that still
- 1:05commands over 60% of mobile data traffic and leads fixed
- 1:10connectivity, mobile money, and now enterprise services.
- 1:14Welcome to the podcast, Henry. Thank you.
- 1:16Maybe just start by introducing yourself and just giving more
- 1:19more details about what you do as Safaricom.
- 1:22All right. Thank you.
- 1:22Thank you for inviting me to this session.
- 1:25My name is Henry Julie. I take care of the team that is
- 1:29responsible for enterprise business, taking care of
- 1:34financial services customers. You know, the bounce, the
- 1:37insurance firms, the weather companies, the fintechs as well
- 1:41as the South, Yes. The Saccos are very big in Kenya
- 1:45right now. Exactly.
- 1:46All right. So let's, you know, start by a
- 1:49very common first we get to hear from Suffolk home business, you
- 1:53know, powering progress. I mean, it's a very interesting
- 1:56time that I get to hear whenever I, you know, I get to tell a lot
- 1:59of your press briefings. You can just, you know, pay you
- 2:02a visit your offices, you know, because when you look at the
- 2:05Kenya economy today, you know, infrastructure is not just about
- 2:10support, right? It's actually the backbone, what
- 2:14powers that infrastructure. And of course, you know, Safari,
- 2:17I'm alone, as I said, you know, when I was doing the intro for
- 2:20the podcast connects 10s of millions of users and of course
- 2:23processes, you know, right, a majority of the mobile financial
- 2:26interceptions in the country, right?
- 2:28You know, so from your perspective, what does actually
- 2:31powering progress really mean for large enterprises and in a
- 2:35market where of course connectivity, payments and even
- 2:39just data are so tightly interconnected, so, so.
- 2:42Powering progress means basically working with the
- 2:46enterprises to help them throughout their digital
- 2:50transformation. So powering progress is Alkadon
- 2:55for. Yeah.
- 2:57When it comes to Safaricom business, the first we'll talk
- 3:01about is connectivity. So we connect our customers and
- 3:05connectivity in this case, of course I mean fixed connectivity
- 3:10which is broadband whereby of course we connect our customers,
- 3:14provide the Internet connectivity, connect their
- 3:17branches through fibre or fixed wireless access.
- 3:22We used to talk about GSMGSM business mobility.
- 3:26So GSM whereby we provide our customers, enterprise customers
- 3:30with the GSM products. Of course for them to be wow,
- 3:34that is activity. And the second thing, after
- 3:37connecting our customers, we need to protect protecting
- 3:42their. Security.
- 3:44So this is where now we talk about security.
- 3:46So Safarico provide security solutions for our enterprise
- 3:53customers ranging from a number of security solutions beating
- 3:58what you call a margin security solutions.
- 4:01We have an M Song that is another security operation
- 4:05center whereby we are able to host customers.
- 4:10We are able to host customers and helping of course to protect
- 4:15your data information. The other one is now protecting.
- 4:20We have to enable, we enable our customers to enable our
- 4:23customers by providing them with capabilities to enable them to
- 4:28be able to. And in this case of course I
- 4:32refer to your collaboration tools applications hosted on
- 4:37cloud, in public cloud, we are able to provide our customers
- 4:42with such kind of tools to to do business.
- 4:48And the last one is transformation.
- 4:50So we transform our customers. How do we transform our
- 4:53customers? We work with our customers to Co
- 4:57create solutions who create solutions that addresses the
- 5:01needs and they can give us within the financial industry.
- 5:05Especially for the circles, we have seen that circles of the
- 5:09time have been suffering in terms of you know how to make
- 5:14sure of the alcohol fees and front office processes, Co
- 5:20banking solutions that exist out there, they are not fit for the
- 5:25South. So Sacos we realized there was a
- 5:28gap and the Sacos was struggling.
- 5:30So we decided to come up with a solution with a platform to
- 5:36address these specific and end to end and end to end platform
- 5:53taking care of the office processes, you know, in terms of
- 6:05in terms of all those financial aspects, you know, and then of
- 6:12course front office, there is a front office applications out
- 6:16now members are able to. Interact.
- 6:24You still have things there manually, right.
- 6:26And if you belong to, you know, come from Italian, I know my mom
- 6:31forced me to get into this fact where they have in the village
- 6:33where we contribute 600 shillings, there should be.
- 6:36And when they do their annual, you know, everything is just on
- 6:39paper, you know. So this product now addresses
- 6:42such, such, such, you know, exactly.
- 6:45Yeah. Exactly for for the country
- 6:49level, I mean, So for for the Tia Tia force, Yeah, Tier 4
- 6:55circles because that is very. So there's a Tier 1 and some of
- 6:59the Tier 2 circles on the account existing systems is for
- 7:04small circles. Solution is meant for how to get
- 7:10processes. So good, we are hosting the
- 7:12solution. So meaning that circles don't
- 7:18have to buy, they don't have to get any software or licenses.
- 7:25Yeah. So basically which is basic kind
- 7:32of small. You know, we'll come back to the
- 7:36command center you mentioned you just made later on because you
- 7:39know, during the life of the security summit, which I will to
- 7:42attend, you know, they're very quick.
- 7:44They are quite, very interesting, you know, relations
- 7:46about what these command centers be able to do in terms of just
- 7:49how to protect from their cybersecurity incidences.
- 7:52So we're going to come back to the back later, you know, just,
- 7:55you know, back to connectivity. You know, when you look at Kenya
- 7:58right now, we're looking at almost 58,000,000 Internet
- 8:01subscriptions, right? Could be more actually, of
- 8:03course, with the vast majority being mobile broadband, you
- 8:07know, and of course, if I become single holds, you know, the
- 8:09dominant share of that traffic. You know, at the same time, when
- 8:14talk about enterprise demand is now shifting towards fiber
- 8:18indicated links even just hybrid and faster.
- 8:21An example, for example, here we use this article 5G what the
- 8:24portable suffering page. You know, it's I think one of
- 8:27the best things you're invested in here, objections and of
- 8:30course reliable and even just hype of once connectivity such
- 8:35as, you know, like physics is a critical enabler for interprets
- 8:38today. And how now does the ficom
- 8:40business just differentiate itself in a market that is
- 8:43becoming increasingly competitive just like of course
- 8:46maybe starting how, how different is Safari?
- 8:50All right. The feedback that we get from
- 8:54majority of our customers is our services are quite reliable.
- 9:00Customers are using Safari connectivity, they are because
- 9:04of which is quite, quite important.
- 9:08So the number of downtimes, you know, downtimes that happen very
- 9:15few, very few and this construction is taking place in
- 9:22that area and that kind of a case in areas maybe there could
- 9:26be no fighter ads. They try try as much as
- 9:31possible. They people work with the local
- 9:35governments and local governments and the counties,
- 9:39the outies in the towns were present so that in case there
- 9:43are any constructions or only any way excavations basically
- 9:50together. So ensure that of course, we
- 9:52provide what you call redundant routes.
- 9:55So the backwards. So I really in case maybe 1
- 9:59route is down, there's a certain route there is traffic is in to
- 10:05pass through. The second one is Internet.
- 10:13You will notice in terms of what for streaming of data, when
- 10:18you're streaming data be it upstream or down, it's a far
- 10:24called Internet is quite stable. So to us the quality of service
- 10:28to our customers matters. A lot of the investments have
- 10:32been put in place or some equipment monitoring and even
- 10:37having. A team A-Team.
- 10:39That is dedicated is called issues.
- 10:43So support top of the books, support is top of the bus.
- 10:49We cannot have a situation. For.
- 10:54Example in information to engage and quickly start solving issues
- 11:04and also you'll find that for example, within the bus banking
- 11:09sector. Yeah, because, you know, it's
- 11:17like, I mean, they can't afford to have a downtake.
- 11:19Exactly. That's a very critical.
- 11:21Part of the business, of course, it is also true.
- 11:24OK. And I'm just speaking, you know,
- 11:27still speaking on fixed connectivity because again, I
- 11:30think fixed connectivity is where now it's where enterprise
- 11:33transformation just really becomes tangible.
- 11:35You talk about that and and and of course, you can't really, you
- 11:39can't feel in the market in that, you know, area, which is
- 11:42significant compared to just how competitive that space is
- 11:45becoming, right. But beyond these numbers, again,
- 11:49enterprises, when you look at them, they don't just pay
- 11:52connectivity, right? You know, they buy reliability
- 11:55performance, which is what you've mentioned here, you know,
- 11:58so when we talk about solution like, you know, SD one, I talk
- 12:01about dedicated Internet, you know, branch interconnectivity
- 12:05into real world outcomes for large enterprises operating
- 12:08across multiple locations. Yeah.
- 12:11Yeah. So, so you, you will notice, you
- 12:14know, connectivity is a fundamental, yes, I'd say
- 12:20connectivity is basically the foundation for an organization
- 12:24to be, you know, we want to provide services to your
- 12:31customers. Everything is digital nowadays.
- 12:33Yes, people no longer go to the master key is the one before 1.
- 12:41So what happens is that now because of that kind of
- 12:46activity, of course the issue of security analyst becomes and
- 12:53also we have to handle the other add on specific provides secure
- 13:08to the customers and of course affordable, affordable
- 13:12connectivity. The AST 1 is you can be able to
- 13:17use the Internet to connect. SD-1 is one of the solutions
- 13:25that offers to its customers and then of course those customers
- 13:29whose applications require dedicated and PLS still do cover
- 13:37to our customers talking about digital transformation and most
- 13:44of the businesses of course are digital.
- 13:47Yes, so many solutions that you provide, including managed
- 13:53Wi-Fi, managed Wi-Fi. Interesting, Actually, yeah.
- 13:58And you realize hotels, you realize the box and provide
- 14:03intellectually customers basically it should be over to
- 14:09that's pretty interesting. And of course, on that point of
- 14:14outcomes, you know, of course, CIA, if you're CIA or a city in
- 14:18a company, you're always under physical pressure actually, you
- 14:21know, justify that investment, right?
- 14:23And you know now what kind of measurable impact are you seeing
- 14:27now from enterprises that are now adopting suffer connective
- 14:31connectivity solutions? And you know I've been talking
- 14:33in here let's see 100% after a start time calls improved
- 14:38application performance. You know what actually changes
- 14:40I. Think one of the things is
- 14:42customers you can have yes, because the strategies are good,
- 14:45the services are seamless and therefore the companies or the
- 14:49enterprises. I want to detain this more
- 14:52astronautical retentions so, so of course and there is business
- 15:08continuity and apart from that of savings as well in terms of
- 15:16you cut your donation cost, but you are on a level service
- 15:20provider you can be able to cut cost, yes operations, yes only
- 15:29get a team in house. Yes.
- 15:32Running your network $0.24 so when you have this trusted so
- 15:40like stuff. This will be anything for you.
- 15:42Exactly, exactly. Therefore, in terms of business,
- 15:50I'm able to plan your. Business.
- 15:54Thanks. Thanks, Henry.
- 15:55You know, now let's talk to, you know, the Paris said we're going
- 15:57to jump into later on, which is cybersecurity, you know, because
- 16:02you know, even as connectivity expands, so do the risks, right?
- 16:05They also keep expanding and for large enterprises, a single
- 16:09bridge could mean a lot of things, you know, a lot of
- 16:13reputational damage, financial, you know, losses and even just
- 16:17like regulatory consequences. We've seen strict that are
- 16:23getting to these breaches. And of course, you know, as a
- 16:26ficom business, you know, see, you know, in that unique
- 16:29position here where auditing, you know, a national at national
- 16:33scale handling massive volts of data and transactions daily.
- 16:38You know, how do you cybersecurity solutions from 34
- 16:41seven, you know, SoC you mentioned in network endpoint to
- 16:45to make endpoint and network operation just help these
- 16:48enterprises build resilience in that kind of high risk
- 16:52environment. Yeah.
- 16:54Sure. So in terms of cybersecurity,
- 16:58yeah, a lower Rd. has been done as a federal has invested around
- 17:03in terms of state and security team, first of all starting
- 17:07skills, we have trained well trained professionals who are
- 17:12able to handle security issues and trends.
- 17:18A lot of interest, less of course in terms of people, they
- 17:21saw condition about monitoring, real time monitoring to 7 of
- 17:28threats. The other thing is cyber
- 17:34security. Apart from now providing actual
- 17:37stable security solutions cover network security and security,
- 17:44data centre security and everything else.
- 17:47Apart from that, we also provide professional services, what we
- 17:50call VPT. So for example, a customer, an
- 17:56enterprise customer want to you know, implement security
- 18:02solutions, suffer from offers and resources whereby you're
- 18:07able to get into the environment, assess the
- 18:10violence, check every, do an air to cash check.
- 18:14That is what we call the DVT. We're able to be as we get a
- 18:23look forward and therefore we'll provide the customer.
- 18:26This is I think to test. Yeah.
- 18:29So security. Security is not just files.
- 18:39Yeah. So he basically work with the
- 18:42client through when he signs up until the entire process?
- 18:45Exactly. Exactly and to differently
- 18:50Support Solutions. And you can just as, and there's
- 18:58also the tuition actually between security and speed,
- 19:02right? You know, as an enterprise, I
- 19:05want to innovate. I want to leave we, you know,
- 19:07cloud apps. I want to adopt AI, especially
- 19:09right now, AI is a big conversation.
- 19:12Again, I want to do all this without compromising on
- 19:14security, right? How then does the FICOM business
- 19:18just ensure for me as an enterprise I can move fast while
- 19:23still maintaining that strong, you know, protection frameworks?
- 19:28So first of all, I'm saying provider.
- 19:30So yes. So when we're launching with
- 19:32customers look at their requirements, solutions and
- 19:40these applications and it look to run on premises, Yeah, it's
- 19:46causing the way to run on the hybrid cloud on premise and
- 19:50because of the security there depends on what the customer has
- 19:55implemented. But if it is, look to run on
- 20:02any. In that kind of a case, who are
- 20:07the customers, enterprise customers, the system able to do
- 20:20quite fast. So in terms of turn around time
- 20:24ideally you know, so I'm able to get rid of me today, no customer
- 20:31timeline. So I guess it's not an issue
- 20:35A-Team and you know based on experience we haven't related
- 20:40some of these issues. We have found out applications,
- 20:45we need to deploy these applications from Paris access
- 20:49to outside Internet. So we go to the FX.
- 20:55Three years and two nights should not be.
- 20:59Host yeah, actually I like the revision, the turn around bit
- 21:02because I think that's what is one of the business and for even
- 21:04one for us when you sign up for any business, I mean where we
- 21:07host all our platforms before we went for you know host X, you're
- 21:13like OK, how how fast are they to respond to our queries should
- 21:16the website go down, how fast can you reach them?
- 21:18So I mean, turn around time is actually a bit being, you know,
- 21:21and I'm like actually you're tackling that, which is very,
- 21:22very interesting. And now I mean, as we expand
- 21:26this conversation, you know, you just lightly touched about cloud
- 21:31and of course cloud adoption is really accelerating in Kenya.
- 21:34You know, we've seen a lot of companies adopting cloud.
- 21:37Even the smallest businesses are now adopting cloud.
- 21:39But for many, especially Kenya being a very regulated market,
- 21:45there are still so many concerns.
- 21:47We are talking about of course data software need.
- 21:49It's a very, very big conversation that we like having
- 21:51especially here internally, you know obtain guarantees, you know
- 21:55business recovery, all which are very critical for any business
- 21:58to actually operate. You know how then is Safaricom
- 22:02is just cloud solutions now address these concerns,
- 22:05particularly in a market where you know, downtown actually
- 22:08literally being asked down. Yeah.
- 22:14So apart from providing so we are able to provide
- 22:37customers who come for multiple services recovery as a service
- 22:43able to talk to over research the recovery site just in case
- 22:48if a customer you don't binary site friends are running on a
- 22:53public cloud, it is down. At least they're able to to
- 22:57work, they're able to resume and continue working services.
- 23:05That is quite the second thing when it comes to as you are
- 23:11aware, most of the hyper scalars, we are happy there.
- 23:14Hyper scalars, most of them Microsoft should be services to
- 23:27the customers. So what is the benefit of that?
- 23:30The benefit is there is an issue.
- 23:37We have what you call, you don't have.
- 23:46When you
- 24:08have somebody you know ready to assist you, yeah.
- 24:15Right, right. That's interesting.
- 24:17I love the data center beat. Yeah, that's great.
- 24:20Interesting. You know, and, and I've also
- 24:23seen Safaricom go being in such complex, they switch every like
- 24:26is they have IoT, you know, entire of things, which again is
- 24:30certainly becoming, you know, the biggest drivers of
- 24:33enterprise efficiency. Final businesses here, you know,
- 24:36in Kenya, you know, across sector, we're looking at fuel,
- 24:39logistics, energy, agriculture. There's that shift, you know,
- 24:43towards real time visibility and automation, which is again a
- 24:46very big conversation, you know, and when you are really enabling
- 24:51a lot of enterprises to leverage IoT and through telematics,
- 24:55smart utilities or supply chain monitoring and for telematics,
- 24:59you know, like I like what you want to say, but it was quite a
- 25:03big conversation, you know. How long?
- 25:06Just normally just helping these businesses or enterprises
- 25:09leverage IoT across these different sectors.
- 25:13So depending on the different use cases, different use cases
- 25:17team, for example, transport and existing economies where is here
- 25:22now telematics comes in we have operate end to end solution that
- 25:29is will provide see connectivity in IoT scenes will provide the
- 25:34platform and of course all the associated revised the same IoT
- 25:41services for for, for for for for customers to be able to you
- 25:47know, monitor for example, if it is logistics companies, yeah,
- 25:52how can they you know to monitor tracks rules from one other
- 25:55issue to another. So we are very strong.
- 26:00We need space. We will and their solution.
- 26:03So different cases, different cases for you know, we are able
- 26:12to, we don't have a complete solution.
- 26:32Organizations different cities and attend our solution being of
- 26:38course so all chain, all chain. Yes, yeah.
- 26:42So these will have to recommendation.
- 26:51Around you know IoT because my first event job worker clearing
- 26:55schools in telematics companies used to and I used to enjoy just
- 27:00watching all those things and seeing how you can actually
- 27:03support these guys here. This driver stops, why are they
- 27:06stopped for this long really, you know, interesting and even
- 27:09just you know, looking ahead, where do you see the biggest
- 27:13opportunity for you in Kenya? Is it a logistics, manufacturing
- 27:18smart cities, you know are coming up where is the really?
- 27:25Different use cases fire to when you look at the future OK
- 27:28telematics these are has been yes been there over.
- 27:31The. Over the time, but then we are
- 27:34looking at integrating IoT with AI as well.
- 27:40I see IoT coming in strong to help, to help enterprises be
- 27:47able to optimize, optimize, you know, optimize the operations.
- 27:55How do you optimize your operations?
- 27:57For example, cutting down the cost of energy?
- 28:01We got customers branches, they have branches they want to be
- 28:04monitoring. You know, you know, power
- 28:09utilization, for example, electricity, for example, the
- 28:12cost of electricity has become quite high.
- 28:15Electricity is now quite expensive.
- 28:16Initially, it wasn't enterprises are getting concerned about
- 28:21these most skyrocketing costs of learning business.
- 28:24So a good case is whereby you can, you know, IoT to to help
- 28:34you manage cost of power. So there is, you know,
- 28:39equipments that are not to use dramatically can be switched
- 28:43off. The light stuff like anything
- 28:45that is running in a branch or in a business, you can Google
- 28:50to, you know, use IoT to control our utilization.
- 28:56That is one of the uselessness, the separate use case.
- 28:59Of course IO team will continue the scale in the transport
- 29:04sector, you know, and even in, you know, homes for security.
- 29:10You can be able to integrate anti security security for
- 29:15everything, including all the devices that you use at home and
- 29:20be able to deploy, you know, smart homes, you understand.
- 29:27Building a smartphone in my house, I'm trying to see if I
- 29:30can switch off my bulb by just, you know, what actually thing
- 29:35Shika 6 will be in there. A lot of things you know, so
- 29:39it's an interesting concept as well, you know, envy as we just
- 29:42almost wind up broadcast. We are entering, you know, a new
- 29:45face of enterprise information, of course driven by 5G, which is
- 29:49a psycho very big on AI. As I say, it's a very big
- 29:52conversation and of course, you know you mentioned and
- 29:55increasingly digital fast visit model that we're seeing
- 29:58happening right now with a lot of enterprises organizations in
- 30:01Kenya. And of course, as we mentioned
- 30:04earlier, Safaricom Marine dominates mobile connectivity
- 30:07again expanding into fiber cloud enterprise services.
- 30:10But again, the landscape is evolving pretty very quickly.
- 30:14A lot of things happening. We only joke with my feel that
- 30:19especially the AI, you wake up tomorrow something very
- 30:23different. Tomorrow is easy.
- 30:25You need to learn how to be evolved with those.
- 30:27How do you see some alcohol business now continue to power
- 30:30this progress, you know, in this?
- 30:33Industries in terms of technology development, for
- 30:39example, what is happening watching Yeah, Technology space
- 30:44so that we are able to adopt or adapt to these new current
- 30:50technologies quite quickly. And they continue, of course, to
- 30:53invest by train staff that for example, on our staff, staff
- 30:58strain on, they're trained on this AI and we continue of
- 31:04course, to enable our staff on their space.
- 31:07So of course, looking at the future, the future is bright and
- 31:12suffer from visions of course to be calm within the that.
- 31:16Core yes. Technology company is yes.
- 31:24We are on track. Good progress as you made to you
- 31:36on our staff and train AI we actually have only.
- 31:48Customers are bringing their problems to us and then of
- 31:50course you. Know, you know, The thing is
- 31:58from where I'm sitting myself, I can't see this problem.
- 32:00It's like, you know, and now just for for interpreter, you
- 32:06know, leader listening to this podcast, of course, the stacks
- 32:08are really high. So we're talking about future
- 32:11proofing them to organizations in NAFTA, pretty shifting
- 32:14digital, you know digital economy, you know, what happens,
- 32:17would you give additional maker right now?
- 32:20I mean, where should they be placing their bets for the next
- 32:23three, maybe 3-4 or five years? As I see nobody has consultancy
- 32:30services, services in, in, in, in different.
- 32:40We are a team that is going to work on the future trends of
- 32:46obviously security. Of course, you know securities
- 32:50in India, we are the biggest motor price on the races in
- 33:00touch with mobile. This is a lot.
- 33:05So mainly there of course we have proper security, very
- 33:11robust systems and that is why we are able to provide our
- 33:14services in this. So organizations can also be
- 33:20able to, and we can also be able, as I said, to provide
- 33:24mining services, Yeah, mining services to enter places so that
- 33:31they take over the and, you know, people to focus.
- 33:42Yes, I mentioned that, you know, just before we wrap up being of
- 33:46course, society, commerce be with, you know, one of the most,
- 33:49you know, I like calling it most extensive digital ecosystem in
- 33:54Africa, of course, from Kenya, Africa in general.
- 33:57So for more activity, you know, to payment to enterprise
- 34:00solutions for each, you know, on this podcast, 1 of organizations
- 34:05is looking to plug into the ecosystem.
- 34:07How can they get started? You know, take us through what
- 34:10goes What does that engagement journey typically look like?
- 34:15So for you know the future basically and this is what cloud
- 34:22is the future. Most of the physicians, some of
- 34:30those hybrid cloud have more than one provider, so you can do
- 34:37some workloads, other workloads. So based on the applications
- 34:50that when you realize the majority of the business will
- 34:54provide these applications all systems and they are refactoring
- 34:58the applications. So to be because cloud is the
- 35:04cloud is the future. So we are looking at, you know,
- 35:07how do you become quality? Yeah, how do you become quality?
- 35:12You don't need to invest a lot in buying hardware goods to be
- 35:18able to Yeah precious. So every summer or any
- 35:26enterprise must successfully be digital transformation.
- 35:30They generate once the cloud. So it is start of course with
- 35:34virtualization. Virtualize your existing.
- 35:38Make sure that you are refactoring the applications to
- 35:41be rooted. From there identify the cloud
- 35:47your preferred as I've said especially if you know there is
- 35:58that requirement so we can be able to that also how also does
- 36:06of course services we can be able to look at and get so.
- 36:18That's a 360 offering giving to this, you know, to clients, you
- 36:22know, Henry, you know, and finally just, you know, when you
- 36:24look at Kenya today and even just the broader African market,
- 36:28well, what's your long term vision for just how software
- 36:31icon business will shape the future of, you know, large
- 36:34entices in the region? So what I see is as sufferable
- 36:41business, we work to provide to our customers and to and this is
- 36:53what you want to have to focus on your focus on which is
- 36:59expensive and so forth. So we are looking at the future
- 37:11as able to provide. Yeah, in this country so the
- 37:44customers aren't it's a problem they're not into those wires
- 37:50through the regulator, therefore suffer customers solutions, of
- 37:56course everything that we yeah, that's what.
- 38:10Is all about all right thank you for watching me for just finding
- 38:14technician this episode of the podcast really really appreciate
- 38:18yes. So if there's one take away from
- 38:22this podcast, it's, you know, infrastructure is no longer just
- 38:27support function. It's a business.
- 38:30Thank you so much for watching this episode of the Tricksons
- 38:33podcast. My name is Nick Canali.
- 38:35I'll see you in the next episode.
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