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Star Wars Film News with But Why Tho? EIC Kate Sanchez Episode CCXIV · Star Wars Alliance

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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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  Speaker 2: Hell Hello everybody, and welcome back to Star Wars Alliance,
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  Speaker 2: It's Kat and with me as per usual, it is Clay. Clay,
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  Speaker 2: how are you doing today?
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  Speaker 1: I am doing a lot better now that I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: sitting down here and you know, getting ready to record,
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  Speaker 1: because I just told you right before we started recording,
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  Speaker 1: I have had a hell of a week and it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of get into the nitty gritty of all the
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  Speaker 1: all this news. For those of you who are joining
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  Speaker 1: listening to it later on the next day. You have
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  Speaker 1: noticed that we haven't been talking about some of the
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  Speaker 1: biggest news that have hit that has hit the last week.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we had the interview with Stephen Barnes last week,
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  Speaker 1: so if you haven't listened to that, go back listen
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  Speaker 1: to that great stuff. But yeah, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say controversial topics, but the topics within itself.
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  Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and tease one. Now, everything that's going
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  Speaker 1: on with the Ray Skywalker movie and all of that
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  Speaker 1: stuff and where Ray and Daisy Ridley is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: going like that feels like a mess. I can't really
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  Speaker 1: wait to hear your opinion on it. And so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be really fun tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Just to give y'all a heads up. I never do
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  Speaker 2: show notes for this, but we do have a guest.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna finish the show notes feel first. I
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  Speaker 2: never do show notes. I hate doing show notes. I
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  Speaker 2: literally did laundry. I did four loads of laundry today,
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  Speaker 2: cleaned my daughter's room and put away all her things,
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  Speaker 2: to show notes today. That's how bad I hate them.
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  Speaker 2: But they are literally two pages long. So we got
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  Speaker 2: some stuff to talk about. But our guest is Kate Sanchez.
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  Speaker 2: I had to make sure I got it. I'm carerible
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  Speaker 2: at it. Okay, I'm just terrible at Kate, who is
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  Speaker 2: the editor in chief of A but Why though, and
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  Speaker 2: I just lost my intro shpiel. She also podcasts is
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  Speaker 2: a part of the Austin Help Critics Association. And has
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  Speaker 2: been a judge for crunchy Roll Anime Awards four times,
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  Speaker 2: and she writes for several other places as well. But
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  Speaker 2: Kate is here to promote something that was very near
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  Speaker 2: and dear to my heart. I don't write anymore, but
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  Speaker 2: Sorry squirrel. Anyways, Okay, so we're gonna hit the newest
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  Speaker 2: news first because we're going to just kind of go
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  Speaker 2: in order things. But this dropped late last night. Ut
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  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four Disney Apac Content Showcase was revealed
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  Speaker 2: that Star Wars Visions will debut the third volume next year.
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  Speaker 2: It does not state a specific date, but it's just
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. And this is solely Japanese studios, which
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  Speaker 2: I do want to say that I called because of
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars celebration next year. I want to point that out.
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  Speaker 2: But we have new studios. So we have David Production,
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  Speaker 2: Polygon Pictures, Project Studio Q and with Studio and then Anima.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's how you pronounce it, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but they are doing a co production with
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  Speaker 2: returning studio Kama Kazi Douga, which was a part of
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  Speaker 2: volume one and they did the duel. Yes, the returning
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  Speaker 2: studios are Kinema Citruska, which was a part of volume
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  Speaker 2: one with the Village Bride, Production Ig which was also
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  Speaker 2: part of Volume one with the Ninth Jedi, and then
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  Speaker 2: Trigger or I think it's actually studio Trigger, but it
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  Speaker 2: was in the article is Trigger and they did volume
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  Speaker 2: one with the Elder and the twenty So what do
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  Speaker 2: y'all think about this? Kate? Why don't you go first?
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm not a big anime person, so like Visions,
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  Speaker 2: maybe some studio Ghibli is all I know?
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  Speaker 3: So the first So I this isn't to disparage the
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  Speaker 3: season two Visions. I thought that that was really good.
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  Speaker 3: I think that there are really great studios there, and
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  Speaker 3: I think one of the important things for me is
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  Speaker 3: like at its core, I love Visions because I think
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  Speaker 3: animation is a medium that deserves more recognition for the storyteller,
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  Speaker 3: like the storytelling it can do. It's not just for kids,
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  Speaker 3: it's for every age. It's a medium, not a genre,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that Visions really highlights that. That being said,
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  Speaker 3: Vision season one I think was an a very important
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  Speaker 3: recognition of what Japanese culture has done for Star Wars
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  Speaker 3: as a property. The majority of the Star Wars storytelling,
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  Speaker 3: and George Lucas has been very upfront by this was
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  Speaker 3: influenced by Korrosawa films. A lot of the Jedi robes
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  Speaker 3: are influenced by Japanese. I'm forgetting the what it is called,
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  Speaker 3: but well.
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  Speaker 2: It's, uh, that's only what I know.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it's a specific.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's not it's not k it's.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, it's I don't know why it's escaping me. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: it is it is. It is traditional Japanese dress, and
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  Speaker 3: I think that one of the important things that we
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  Speaker 3: can do, especially when we are watching media go on
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  Speaker 3: for longer, is kind of honor where it started. And
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  Speaker 3: I think that what we saw with Vision season one
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  Speaker 3: was that type of honoring and exploration. I also think
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  Speaker 3: that the first season of Visions was a fantastic primer
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  Speaker 3: into what anime is and can be and what people
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  Speaker 3: can expect because I think that there's kind of a
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I know that there's kind of an
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  Speaker 3: assumption of the stories that anime tells, but it's just
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  Speaker 3: as diverse as any other animated medium. It like anime
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  Speaker 3: just means it comes from Japan, so I I like
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  Speaker 3: to use it. I like to use visions as a
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  Speaker 3: way to really get people in so far as the
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  Speaker 3: studios that are on here, Production ID, Trigger and WIT
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  Speaker 3: are really heavy hitters. David Production did production on Joj's
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  Speaker 3: Bizarre Adventure, which is one of the probably I would
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  Speaker 3: say like it's reached icon status a joke. Everybody knows
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  Speaker 3: a Jojo if you're an anime fan. And Kazakamidoga and
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  Speaker 3: an I mean, they're going to do some great work.
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  Speaker 3: Although I'm blessed familiar with anima and so I think
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  Speaker 3: that like this is a fantastic slate, And all of
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  Speaker 3: these studios, at least from the ones that I know
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  Speaker 3: really well, are creating animations that are wildly different styles
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  Speaker 3: and wildly different core themes. And I think that that's
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  Speaker 3: what's really exciting, because you go from Trigger you have
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  Speaker 3: Cyberpunk Edge Erunners, which I think most people in the
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  Speaker 3: West will know because it was an adaptation of the
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  Speaker 3: video game. But they also did pro Mare Kill a Kill,
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  Speaker 3: some really large titles with did SPAIEX family, which is
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  Speaker 3: probably the biggest crossover for anime into the mainstreamers and
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  Speaker 3: production IG has done a lot of work on partnering
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  Speaker 3: with three D animation houses to really push the what
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  Speaker 3: traditional anime is seen as, which is two D. They've
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  Speaker 3: been doing a lot of work to either support fully
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  Speaker 3: three D rendered studios or start building their own. So
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  Speaker 3: that was a lot of words to say. There is
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  Speaker 3: a lot of diversity here in the representation of art
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  Speaker 3: styles that we're about to see in Star Wars Vision
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  Speaker 3: season three, and I am very excited for it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you talked about good introductions, like this was probably mine, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: Like again, I've seen like some studio ghibli and then
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  Speaker 2: like a couple like death Note and things like that
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  Speaker 2: sort art online, but like this was like pure introduction.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm very excited, especially with the ninth Jedi production
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  Speaker 2: ig returning and Kinemasiitrius with the Village Bride. Like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: seriously hopeful for some sequels.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think, Clay, I was gonna say, I
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  Speaker 1: think Kate just stole the entire show. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: all of that knowledge of anime. Uh No, But I
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  Speaker 1: agree on everything, Katie. You know, I have been gushing
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  Speaker 1: over Visions ever since it started. I was in love
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  Speaker 1: with the duel. I loved the novel adaptation and continuation
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  Speaker 1: of that world. Studio Trigger being a part of this, again,
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  Speaker 1: I think is just wonderful. Not a whole lot of
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  Speaker 1: people really dug the Twins, but I absolutely loved it.
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  Speaker 2: It was phenomena.
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  Speaker 1: It was so ridiculously like just pure anime stuff. It
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  Speaker 1: was just so people call it weird, like the fact
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  Speaker 1: that there was a lightsaber that was the size of
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  Speaker 1: a planet and all of this su like it's sposed.
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  Speaker 3: Still, it was triggered at its most.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I absolutely love it. But on the story side,
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  Speaker 1: I am super excited about Production IG because of how
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  Speaker 1: many people wanted a continuation of the Ninth Jedi and
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  Speaker 1: how Studio IG even said like, oh, if we had
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity, we would totally do this, and like to
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  Speaker 1: possibly to even have that small possibility of there being
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  Speaker 1: a continuation of the Ninth Jedi gets me so excited.
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  Speaker 1: And and Okay, I want to agree with you again
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  Speaker 1: that this is a medium. And I've said this plenty
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  Speaker 1: of times, but again it's worth noting while we are
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  Speaker 1: talking about visions, I think that lucasfilm Star Wars and
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  Speaker 1: Disney need to consider bringing animation Star Wars to the
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  Speaker 1: big screen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that that's one of the things
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  Speaker 3: that has frustrated me. And fun fact, this is the
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  Speaker 3: first time I've talked about Star Wars on a podcast
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  Speaker 3: in a very very long time. So there we go.
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  Speaker 3: But like one of the things that like, I really
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  Speaker 3: wish you did, because I mean, I love the Clone Wars,
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  Speaker 3: I love everything that Filoni has done, but it's the
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  Speaker 3: exact same art style. Not to say that it isn't
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  Speaker 3: worthy of being on the big screen, but I think
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  Speaker 3: what we've seen with the explosion of visions is that
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  Speaker 3: there are so many intricate worlds that we can see
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  Speaker 3: brought to life. And I think that as we have
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  Speaker 3: seen some of like the highest grossing anime movies that
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  Speaker 3: have ever released have been released in the last four years,
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  Speaker 3: and we are just seeing more money get thrown into them.
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  Speaker 3: And whether you go for a Japanese animated series or
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  Speaker 3: a movie, which I think they should do, and I
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  Speaker 3: actually think projection IG's Ninth Jedi and an Expiration that
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  Speaker 3: would be a best feast for that I wouldn't hate
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  Speaker 3: any other, uh any other or just feature film that
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  Speaker 3: they make fully animation. I think that when you I
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  Speaker 3: think that Filoni's animated series tell a much more adult
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  Speaker 3: story than we give it credit for because of how
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  Speaker 3: it looks. But I will say if we kind of
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  Speaker 3: invest in a more, I don't want to say grittier,
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  Speaker 3: but just like a More. It feels weird calling it
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  Speaker 3: more adult because like those Clone Wars go deep, they
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  Speaker 3: hit are I do. But like something that visually you
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  Speaker 3: can sell to adults, I think I'll say that something
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  Speaker 3: you can visually sell to adults, I think it'll be
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  Speaker 3: really good. I would also like to point out with
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  Speaker 3: a pro with Studio Q, they have worked on Eureka, Sevan, Evangelian,
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  Speaker 3: Darlene and there. I think that we are going to
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  Speaker 3: get a Star Wars Mac and that is what I want.
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  Speaker 1: I really hope. So, but not only that, so I
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  Speaker 1: believe it was Evangelian. Recently, I want to say, in
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  Speaker 1: the last three or four years, have has really popped
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  Speaker 1: off again for sure because.
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  Speaker 3: Of Thrice upon a Time. Yeah, so they did a
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  Speaker 3: re release of the rebuilds. YEP.
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  Speaker 1: I think that this is going to be really good
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  Speaker 1: for Disney. Plus, I think there will be even if
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  Speaker 1: it's for a short time for the release of Visions,
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  Speaker 1: I think you will see an increase of those subscriptions
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  Speaker 1: to watch this show.
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  Speaker 3: No we will, Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have anything to add.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay. Like Katy is all in on on the
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  Speaker 1: nerdim of books and so I give her that and
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  Speaker 1: that's totally fine. I was raised off of anime. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The very first anime that I ever watched was Dragon
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  Speaker 1: Ball Z and so it's like my favorite of all time.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, like it is, it is a culture, and
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  Speaker 1: so I think that just like how Katie, we have
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  Speaker 1: multiple conversations in the guachat about directors and writers and
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  Speaker 1: cinematographers and everything else when it comes to anime. These
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  Speaker 1: studios are the big ones that people talk about when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to anime fans. It's like, oh, well, who's
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  Speaker 1: what production is doing this new anime that's about to
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  Speaker 1: come out. Oh there's an adaptation of this, Well who's
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  Speaker 1: doing it? Like that's the big talk of the town
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  Speaker 1: in the anime community. So having these bigger names is
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  Speaker 1: going to make a big pop when it finds comes.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, when do y'all think this will drop? Are
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  Speaker 2: we thinking another May fourth release window right after celebration
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  Speaker 2: where they can do all the panels and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it will try to align itself with
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  Speaker 3: the lease packed anime season, because I think that that's
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  Speaker 3: what ended up happening last time too, So I think
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  Speaker 3: we'll probably be looking at a winter or spring release
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  Speaker 3: because fall is usually where the heavy hitters of every
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  Speaker 3: season come through.
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  Speaker 2: So that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even consider that.
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  Speaker 1: I can sign with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, y'all, we are going to hit our
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  Speaker 2: first ad break and we will be right back in
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  Speaker 2: three two one. We talked about how things are more
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  Speaker 2: adult with the visions things, So let's go to and
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  Speaker 2: Or because that is probably the most adult show that
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  Speaker 2: is on Disney Plus now that Accolade is gone. So
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  Speaker 2: we have an official release date April twenty second, twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five. Obviously, going back to the twelfth episode count
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  Speaker 2: to date, it releases two days after Celebration ends, so
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  Speaker 2: more than likely we're gonna see another preview showing for
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  Speaker 2: Celebration like Oh Wei Wan Kenobi did, And there was
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  Speaker 2: actually eleven seconds of teaser footage in the coming in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five Disbey Plus did either of y'all watch that.
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  Speaker 1: I saw it, but I was only able to watch
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  Speaker 1: it like as a preview. I didn't actually click into
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  Speaker 1: the video. I didn't hear any of the audio. I
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  Speaker 1: just saw it. From what I saw, it looks nice.
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  Speaker 1: I think the only thing that really popped off on
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  Speaker 1: the timeline was Diego Luna's new what are the what
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: are the cool kids say these days? The cool drip
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: is what they say. My God, I like this code.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I like it. I do like was this already confirm
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: or did they confirm it during all of like the
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: news and stuff that this is going to be like
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: every episode is going to be like how many months?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: So it's three, So it's three episodes per year. So
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: we're starting in for.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: A b y.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Then we get three to one and we leave right in.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: So at the end of episode twelve for season two,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Cassine is going to be getting on the ship to
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: go meet his contact that we see him kill and row. Okay,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: so that's kind of how they're going to lead up
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: to everything.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, it makes sense, and this is something that
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: we've known, I think since season one premiered and they
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: switched from five seasons to two seasons. They wanted to
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: kind of cover his introduction into the rebellion with season one,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: but then kind of lead up to rogue one with
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: season two. So that's kind of where we're got. I've
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: got the teaser footage here. Thanks to Start Wars all
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: chron we don't have to search through the video.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: So here we go.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: So we've got stormtroopers. She's back. I can't remember her name.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: The tie Defenders there, mm hmm.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: So there. The talk of the town, Yeah, was the
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: fact that this scene right here, Thank you exactly for
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: for stopping it. The uh, the tall grass. Some people
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: are calling them cornfields. Uh. A lot of people think
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: this is Lothal from uh from Star Wars Rebels. I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: think they could be correct. I've heard other people theorize
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: that it was uh oh shoot Dantine. Yes, it was
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the other planet that was rumored. I would I think
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it would be nice to see dance Wine because I
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: don't think technically we have seen dant Wine on screen. Yeah.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think we have either. It was mentioned because
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Leya brings it up in the interrogation with mof Tarkin,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: and so she says, oh, there was a rebel base
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: on Dantueen, knowing the rebels have left Dantweene at this
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: point and are on Yeah, then so I danta Wine
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: could be a cool tie over lo Thal would be
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: cool because you have the live action cast that you
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: could kind of lean on from Ahsoka to kind of
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to cross over with things. But I
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: don't think Tony Gilroy is that kind of guy something.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: And this is Dantuene, if it's a planet that we know,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: putting that out there, but I mean to get teaser
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: footage at this point where Skeleton Crew hasn't even premiered.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: It's something amazing from Lucasfolm that I didn't think was
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: possible that they could do. Like what the heck was
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: not expected?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Well was wasn't the meme going on during uh yeah
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: D twenty three was that they were I forgot what
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the what the exact actual meme was, but the phrasing
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: was like, I isn't that illegal. I didn't know you
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: could do that when Marvel shared all their trailers and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: teasers because Star Wars for some reason, like Star Wars
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: thinks they hold the deepest, darkest secrets of the of
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the universe, and it's just like, guys, it's just Star Wars.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: There wouldn't be so much controversy and everything else if
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: you were just out in the open and like hyped
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: everybody up yep, the way you're supposed to, like every
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: other studio.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I so I think that Star Wars, Rumor Mills and
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Scooper are worse than any other one on other ones
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: on the Internet that I have had to deal with,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: And I think that that is probably why they do
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of it. But I also know that, like
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: from a marketing campaign, they already know that they're going
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: to be able to get a lot of people in
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: the door. I think what they do by holding stuff
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: back is just to make people rabid for any scrap
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: because then when it's out, it's like we are here
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: talking about eleven seconds that but Eiser had to do nothing.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: But it's been their marketing strategy for Marvel too, like
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: for the most part. But I also think they're also
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: finding themselves in a precarious position where they have had
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: to cancel and restart and push back and find new
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: directions and having people leave their ecosystem. More broadly that
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I think the sooner they come out with stuff after
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: issues with obviously the recuts for trailers like World one
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: and everything like that, I think they are hesitant because
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: they have kind of garnered a fairly bad reputation on
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: having stuff out there before it got ready, and now
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I think they kind of overcorrected in the other way.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: That's at least my two cents.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, it makes total sense for sure.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like there really is nothing in the footage
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: other than the picture of the three. I can't even
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: remember her name. I think it's like it starts with
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: a beat. Oh my gosh, it's gonna drive me insane,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: but like that's pretty much it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: And then and so yes, yeah, like if you were
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: curious and or is still hot?
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, all right, So.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: It's her name, Bix.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Thank you, good job.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: So the title has been altered to and or a
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Star Wars Story. What do y'all think about them bringing
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: the Star Wars Story end cap title back?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: You want to say something, Kate, what's going on?
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: All of the Star Wars titles are ridiculously stupid and
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: they make it very hard to write about them.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: It's such a bad it's so badd Like I.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Journalists people, it's like like, so it's that part.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: But I also think that there is an unnecessary burden
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: that they put on their properties but explicitly tying them
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: together in this way. I actually think that that's why
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Vision succeeds so much, because it's not bearing the weight
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: of anything else in or around it. And I think
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: that like when you immediate, like I think the Star
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Wars story label kind of hurt things. I think Skywalker
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: saga hurt things. I think there is you can just
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: release things and then they're released.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And we have a very strong opinion about the Skywalker
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: saga and how we can never leave the Skywalker saga.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: But I agree, I one agree with that take. I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: think that if Star Wars was just Star Wars, it
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: could broaden so much. You could have so many different
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: storytellers telling different parts of this vast universe, but they're
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: so zoned in on telling this one odyssey is just like,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: we're done with that. It was great, we all had fun.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with like going back every once in a while,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: but let's try new things. Let's have fun with it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: And you're right, I think Visions does that very very well.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: The fact that like a Star Wars story, I don't
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: know if I have ever seen I'm gonna try to
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: not be super like dramatic about this, but I don't
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: think I have seen a side of Twitter get so
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: triggered so quickly, and I think it's absolutely ridiculous. I think,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: for one, going back on it kind of tells us, well,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: did you make a mistake by like getting rid of
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the Star Wars story for everything else? And so it's
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a very confusing, like conversation with the audience here. So
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's okay when it comes to
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: it being attached to and or, but again it's just
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: like where's a Star Wars story on everything else? Like
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: are we gonna see Ahsoka you know, season season two
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: a Star Wars story when it releases, or Mandalorian and
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Grogu a Star Wars story like they haven't announced yet,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: but I could see it happening.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Oh now that's a good point. I thought the Star
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Wars story attags were really I was able to separate
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: kind of your standalone stuff when they first dropped with
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Solo and Rogue one, But kind of now that you've
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: dropped it, I don't really like bringing back because, like
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: you said, like okay, is this our way of saying like, Okay,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: we like this, but we don't like this kind of
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: sam like we're putting this out because otherwise we lose
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: so much money, but it's not attached kind of thing.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. I just think it's I think that
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: they've found themselves in a situation. So how do I
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: say this? One of the reasons I haven't talked about
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Star Wars, Like on podcast, I tapped out there's just
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: there's so much and there's too much in a way
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: that it's just like it is in the same way
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: that I tapped out from the MCU. It was like, Oh,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: this thing that I loved deeply is just now become
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: my homework. And I will I will, I will lock
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: in for and or season two because that is my boy.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: But I think that like they have expanded everything so
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: much that I think that now that they did and
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: we're having issues, and Disney Plus has had issues with
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: viewership across all of its properties consistently. It's an expensive
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: platform for not a lot of new content, which I
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: think is partly driving that. But I think what they're
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: trying to do is I think they're trying to like
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: kind of pull in the arms that they stretched out
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: a little bit and like just put Star Wars story
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: back because then they can keep things smaller from like
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: a financial perspective, but I think that it's ultimately going
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: to hurt them in the long run because they are
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: like Disney has been so concerned about cohesive stories and
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: cohesive narratives and cohesive this cohesive that regardless of the
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: property that they own, our doing it too. That I
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: think they're kind of just putting themselves into a corner
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: where it's like you gotta watch it out, you gotta
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: watch out because it's too much, I think, and I
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: think it's it's too weird of an organization for me,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Like looking on the outside of somebody who's been a
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: bit out of Star Wars four for a couple of
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: years now, I don't really understand it. I don't understand
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: the choices. It's it's messy. It doesn't have to be messy,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: and they're making it messy.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: It really should not be messy. Like I know, I'm
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: like deeplys in all the contents and everything, but like,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: it doesn't it does not have to be this messy
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: It's it's a problem. It's a problem that I have
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: with a lot of franchises is the fact that like
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: we as an audience are very simple and yes, as
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and I apologize if this offends anybody, but as humans,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: we're kind of dumb. It's just like, give us something
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: big and shiny and action and like loud colors, like boom, Okay,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: you grabbed our attention. Like it's you don't have to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: do a lot. You don't You don't have to do
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: a whole lot when it comes to the entertainment of
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: your fan base. And I genuinely think that a lot
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: of these studios think way too hard to get the
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: money they're already guaranteed like to get, like that's the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: one thing for me always. So you're infuriating. It's like, oh,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: we're gonna change this thing that has been working for
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: so long to grab more fans that we know that
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna grab, but we're gonna try to anyway.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: It's just like you didn't really have to, but I
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: get it because you guys are kind of greedy. You
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: just want more money.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: But like capitalism, baby, ye yeah.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: It's just the way it is.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: So with the season two announcement and everything, they did
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: also drop the synopsis, which I realized I forgot to
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: copy paste into the Google doc, but I have the
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: screenshot right here, so it says and Or, the acclaimed thriller,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: returns for its long awaited conclusion. The twelve episodes of
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: season two will carry the story of Cassian Andor in
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the emerging rebel alliance over the climactic four years that
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: lead to the discovery of the Death Star. In the
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: events of Rogue one, Season one followed Cassian's reluctant journey
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: from cynical nobody to revolutionary volunteer, and Or. Season two
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: will see him transform from soldier to leader to hero
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: on the way to his epic destiny. From the very
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: first scene, cassian story has activated an ever widening ensemble
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: of allies and enemies. Season two will see these relationships
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: intensify as the horizon of galactic war draws near. Everyone
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: will be tested, and as the stakes rise, the betrayals,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: sacrifices and conflicting agendas will become profound. Who will live
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to see their dream realized? Who will realize what that
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: dream costs. So there's kind of the summary that basically says, oh, hey,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: this was a great show. Here's nothing.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Well. I think, I mean, we've we've said it over
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and over again. I think that there was a very
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: big pop on and Or that they weren't entirely anticipating,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: but at the same time, just like Kate said, every
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: single show has had a really hard time to be,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: you know, successful on Disney Plus. Katie, we had said it.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I think it was not last week, but the week prior.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: We've talked about how and Or actually ended up being
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: on Freeform. It was either free Form or FX, one
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: of the two the first three episodes trying to people
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: to subscribe to Disney Plus. And it's I don't know
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: what they need to do as far as their marketing
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: team goes, because prior to COVID, I feel like the
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: biggest conversations was the fact that Disney had the best
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: marketing in all of the world and it's just for
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: some reason not working out for their platform. And unfortunately,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: it feels like for a lot it's the like it's
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: being targeted. For sure, I'm sure it's being targeted towards
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Star Wars. A lot of the hate for the less
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: marketed stuff, and that is from fans, and then the
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: stupid feuds between Marvel and Star Wars, and it's all
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: the same nerd and stuff. Guys like, get over it.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, I think that something needs to change
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: with how they market Star Wars. I don't know how
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: that works, so I to.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Push back a little, not necessarily pushing back on the idea,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: because I think marketing in and of itself has gone
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: into the can I guess on here?
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's all gone into the shitter, ultimately across every
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: single streaming platform because we're in an age of social
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: media where everything is made to go viral, everything is
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: made to have people market your stuff for free. Essentially
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: that that is just what happens. And I think Disney
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: has been the biggest, the biggest criminal of this when
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: it comes to ensuring that their shows get seen, because
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: they rely a lot on both positive and negative discourse
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: around it to push up numbers, and they stoke those
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: flames and they do it consistently. But they're not the
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: only platform that does it. Netflix does it, Paramount does
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: it a lot of the times, like everything that we
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: say is oh why did I why didn't I know
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: that the show came out? And a lot of it
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: is because they rely on algorithms to put content in
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: front of you that you already get a click, and
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: then they also rely on the social media system ecosystem
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: to put it in front of you, so they don't
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: spend money on it. So I don't think that they
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: have ever particularly been good marketers so much as they
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: were marketers without a streaming service at first. So when
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: studios had to market their own products on other platforms,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: they had to put in a much more concerted effort
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: to make sure that it was getting seen in other
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: places or even on network television, because that's not something
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: that you're always completely plugged into. You move into the
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: streaming ecosystem, everybody has it on their phone, everybody has
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: it on their tablet, on their TV. They can kind
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: of serve it to you whenever you want, so they've
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: kind of divested from spending that money. So I wouldn't
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: say that it's necessarily a Disney problem so much as
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: it's indicative of the larger issue. I think Disney's larger
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: problem with people not watching their shows is that they
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: actually don't have a stable ecosystem of consistent output. They
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: don't have a lot of new content on their platform,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: and a streaming service ultimately only serves you if you're
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: watching stuff on there consistently, so a lot of people
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: may just wait until they get like, what a week
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: off in December for Christmas or a fall holiday, and
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: then subscribe, watch everything you close it out. There are
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: fewer and fewer people relying on weekly television because they
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: just can't afford all the streaming services. And when you
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: don't put out as much shows as say Netflix, you're
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: just not going to see it. I mean, I use
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: somebody else's Disney Bundle for ESPN and Hulu and Disney,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: and I would say that I'm consistently on Hulu more
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: so because they're putting out a more diverse array of content.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: If Disney Plus here looked like it did internationally, then
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I think you wouldn't be having the same problem because
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: people would be going to Disney Plus for anime, for
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: international shows, for the consistent stream of output from FX
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: as well as Hulu originals. And I think that that
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: is where the issue lies for Disney Plus. I don't
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: necessarily think that it is that people don't want to
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: watch these shows. I think is that people are even
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: more limited incomes, which you've seen. People have less buying
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: power now than they did pre COVID or even the
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: start of COVID. So they're going to slash it for
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Netflix because Netflix can give them more or they'll go
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: to Hulu.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm just going to say, Disney, You're lucky that
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I had it on automatic payment, because you stole one
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five dollars for me annual when I
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: that's what bog was my mind. They gave me three
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: years for eighty nine dollars and for one year I
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: have to pay one hundred and seventy five Like that's
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: some bs. I am still to this day pissed off
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: about how they charge so much after they gave me
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: three years for less than one hundred dollars.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Ridiculous. Ridiculous yep.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I think the only streaming service you can get now
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: for really cheap are going to be like your international
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: ones that do like just K dramas or Shutter A
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: shutter an AMC plus are probably the cheaper ones, but
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: everything else is like ridiculously expensive.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: So it's so bad.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: It's getting everything is I think at least seventeen plus.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so yeah, yeah, it's insane.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to go through and cancel some because
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: you get in the habit of like it's just automatically charges.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: It is so bad.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Look, man, those Rocket money ads actually like like they help.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: They help you know how many things that you actually
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: subscribe to that you don't watch.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I will admit I got into like I saw the
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Rocket Money ad and I was like, all right, it
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: got me, let's do it. And then I saw everything.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh crap. And I was warned about
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Disney Plus. I will say that I was warned about
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: an upcoming large fee and I was like, oh, that's
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: rent and it's like, hey, I just got an email
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: from Disney Plus, what is this? Oh God, Like, That's
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that's how I learned. And so now I will make
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: sure to actually open my notifications for Rocket Money.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Now apparently I need to do that because I just
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: always like scroll past those, So I need to do that,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: all right. So uh with returning back to Yavin for
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: and Or, Tony Gilroy actually talked about it and said, he,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have to end up in Yavin, right,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: so we'll tell the story of Yavin. No one has
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: quite dealt with Yab in the way we will be
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: doing it. And this excites me because Tony Gilroy is like, yeah,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I don't really care what else is going on and
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Star Wars, but also he has so much respect for
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: what else is going on with Star Wars, Like yes,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: it's actually a little insane because he's like I don't care,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: like I'm not gonna do cameos. But then like legitimately
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: the guy is like, got it down.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna say something very controversial. Just the
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: way you spoke that quote, I was like, oh god,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: why does this sound like Trump is saying this. It's like,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, we have to give up at Yevin, right,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: so we'll tell the story at Yevin. No one is
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: quite told dealt with Yavin the way we have.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, stop it.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Sorry, it's like.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: That, don't don't do that. Don't don't do that.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: That was terrified. I was absolutely terrifying. I'm so sorry.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Oh god, no. But I am also excited that we
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: are going back to Yavin. I truly am. I think Gilroy,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: like as somebody who has never really followed Gilroy outside
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: of his Star Wars stuff, like I I trust him
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: with almost anything. Now. Just with the season one of
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: and Or, I really enjoyed Rogue one outside of the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Darth Vaders seeing people. Okay, I know that's always.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Darth Vader didn't belong in that movie anyway, he didn't.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: He didn't. It was great, but it was still good.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: It was great, It was a good scene, but it
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: didn't need to be there.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: It was great, it needed it needed to Katie. Because
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: of our lightsaber problem, we talked about it all the time.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Star Wars projects without a lightsaber don't do as great
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: with projects that do have lightsabers. It's unfortunate, but the truth.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: A wrong.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: That is fair.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I agree with that, say totally fair.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: I will say so, I've actually been a really big
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: fan of Tony Gilroy before and Or so kind of
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: like opposite like because I really love spy thrillers and
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: like you get a lot of them because he does
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: The Born, the Born series, but he also does me
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: like The Devil Advocate, which was a really interesting way
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: to take on genre film and also a courtroom drama,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: which I think was perfect. And I think that he
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: has an understanding of balancing genre, tone and message, and
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: I think that that is what made and Or such
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: a stark departure from a lot of the other things
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: that we see, because I think sometimes we end up
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: with really muddled storytelling. For that was my issues with
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: The Acolyte, Like I felt like the Accolade on paper
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: fantastic Acolyte and execution did not want but it was
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: because of some of the execution of balancing the elements
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: of deep genre storytelling and deep dramatic storytelling, and the
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Heather was never connected from me, but to his overall
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: point into Like what you said, Katie, and God, I'm
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: probably I don't. I'm sure your fans are lovely and great,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: but as somebody who just said they didn't like the
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Accolyte and also despises Lunch Jedi, I also must say
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: the fact that I did not like the last Jedi
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: was because it threw out every single thing that immediately
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: preceded it, and you can't, in my opinion, you can't
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: do that in a trilogy. I also think you can't
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: do that when you're building up to a big thing,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: which for the and Or series is Rogue one. So
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: I think like Gilroy thrives in wanting to tell his
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: story his way, but understanding the world that he is
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: in and how it impacts like the Ripples, he kind
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: of sends out of it, and I think that that's
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: what makes it very different than just saying I'm going
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: to make the story. I want to make and what
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: happens before and after do not matter, because this is
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: my story, which is why I have issues with The
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Last Jedi. And I think that those are two ways
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: to approach something, and one I think gets you a
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: wider audience, and I think one can kind of just
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: silo us off and becomes the horror show that was
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: the twenty seventeen Twitter.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I will say, you're talking to two Last Jedi fans,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: but I'm aware. The one thing, the one thing, the
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: one thing that we love about our show, and one
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: thing that me and Katie have like founded on is
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: everybody has an opinion and it's worth having an opinion
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: if you can back it up with some actual criticism
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and facts.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: You're not rude about it.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, exactly, that's.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: It's so easy. It's so easy.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: But yeah, no, So I said I'm aware only because
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I am. I've consistently realized that everybody that I tend
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: to like and go on shows with just love that movie.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, I think it's trash. I am
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: so sorry. I will tell you why if you let me,
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: please don't please, don't hate me. I think it's beautiful.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I do give it its beauty and it's needle drops
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: that it does very much. But I do think, like
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: for like an and Or comparison, like the idea of
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: saying like I am going to just do what I want,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: I think is a strong way to storytelling that I think,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: like I said, like more Star Wars needs to do
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: it is what made Visions really strong because they weren't
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: constrained by the Lucas story group. I That's why I
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: am really hopeful for and Or season two, like in
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: a way that I really am not for a lot
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: of other Disney properties that are coming out, like in general,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: because I think Gilroy has had a good track record
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: in telling an interesting story and I think sometimes that
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: gets lost.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go into our second ad break and we'll
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: be right back, all right, So we're gonna switch Gears
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: into Skeleton Crew just because we have a lot to
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: talk about and the Skeleton Crews are third topic. So
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: so we have the directors for each episode specifically, so
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: episode one and eight, so we have our bookends of
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: the show is done by John Watts. Episodes two and
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: three are done by David Lowry, who directed The Green Knight.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Episode four is directed by the Daniels who did everything everywhere,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: all at once. Episode five is Jake Schreyer. I think
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: it's how you pronounce that, and he did. He did Thunderbolts.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Bryce Dallas Howard is doing episode six, and Lee Isaac Chung,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: who did Twisters, is doing episode seven. So I'm very
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: excited by this range. Obviously, Thunderbolts hasn't come out. I
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: haven't seen Twisters, and I really didn't like the Green Knight.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Honestly, so Kate looks like she's chomping at the bit.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Kate go, I I am loving you as a guest.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: I don't have a poker face like that is my problem.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Consistently at work is the best thing that happened to
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: me because I just wear a mask in public and
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: nobody knows my thoughts otherwise they do no, okay, So
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: this is what is wils to me. This includes some
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: of my absolute favorite things and things that I despise
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: and like. I don't know how to react to it
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: because I like, I love the vision, the vision that
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: David Lowry has for his work. I love the Daniels,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: not even everything like everything everywhere, all at once. It's fantastic,
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: but so are there other films that are increasingly weird
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: and increasingly focused on how to get emotion out a
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: genre storytelling. I hate The Thunderbolts, I hate Paper Towns.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: I have literally not liked a single film that Shryer
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: has done. They are bad. And I'm not interested in
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: the Thunderbolt. El brace Ellis Howard. Girl can direct, the
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: girl can direct, I'm interested. And Twisters is like my
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: blockbuster of the year, And I think Lee Isaac Chung
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: has like that idea of bringing really sound blockbuster filmmaking
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: into small things. And now this is where I talk
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: about John Watts. I hate MCU spider Man with my
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: entire heart because he's not Peter Parker. He's not poor,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: he's not destitute. I mean, I guess now there's.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: A there's a very large conversation about that, like and
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I think there just will always will be. Yeah, uh
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I I'm very curious to how we are still going
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: to stay in the line of you know this what
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: is supposed to be stranger things in the Star Wars galaxy.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: When looking at all of these peop like it's it's
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: kind of bouncing all over the place. When you look
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: at these directors. Now we've seen the Mandalorian and we've
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: also seen the Mandalorian. You know, so like a you know,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: a great you know, ensemble of directors can be good
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: at times, but it can also really hinder the way
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: that the show kind of falls together. And so I
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: don't know if this is going to be good for
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: this show or bad for this show, because I will
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: tell you right now, the only thing that I have,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: the only things that I have seen on this list
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: all the way through is MCU, Spider Man, and the Mandalorian.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I have still not seen Twisters yet. I have still
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: to this day, even after renting it and saying I'm
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: gonna watch this later. Didn't even get the chance to
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: watch everything everywhere all at once, and The Green Knight
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I was never able to see in theaters. So like,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: but I know these people's were, like I've seen it,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: and I know how crazy everybody was over these pieces
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: of work that they are currently you know, showcasing for
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the show. But it's just like I, I I don't
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: know what is supposed to excite me. We've talked about, Katie, Yeah,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: the look of the show, the feel of the show,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: the idea of these kids, going on this adventure sounds fun,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: but we still don't know what to expect from it,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: and so I think that this is like it could
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: either pop really really well or it can spiral out
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: of control really fast.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: That's and I think that's where I am with like
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: like literally like there are things that I love so
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: deeply and I'm just like I don't know how they
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: work with anything else. Because like the Daniels, I think
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: is a very good example. So you have like the
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Death of Dick Long, which was what Daniel us did
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: on his own, and that is like a more drama
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: focused piece but still like more like comedic. But then
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: you also Swiss Army Man Knife, which is probably the
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: weird Swiss Army Man, which is probably the weirdest movie
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: I have ever seen, where it is literally like kind
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: of like Daniel Radcliffe is paralyzed and becomes different things.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: Like it's weird, and so like, I don't know how
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: to add up what this can even tonally be because
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: I can't see anyone on this list being on the
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: same page because like I I've seen so much of
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: the work of a like everybody on here, I just
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: don't understand where the connective tissue is and that scares me.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Is is it the same writer at least, Like is
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: there one person at least doing something consistently across every
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: episode or is everything different?
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: I think John Watt is the only writer, maybe with
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Filoni and Fabreau backing him up.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Let me look, because that is what I think the
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: big issue is, so to be somebody in the driver's seat.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: So Christopher Ford and John Watts write episodes one through four,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: and episodes seven and eight and then five and six
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: are written by young Joe Westner. No idea who that
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: is doesn't have a line.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: On Wicked that I don't know either.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, O, Katie, what do you what do you think of?
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Because I mean you you've said that you know, you
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: didn't like The Green Knight, but like I.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Know, which is like controversial a lot.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: I you know, when it first came out, I thought
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: it was I rewatched it and I'm like, oh, I
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: can see I can't understand because it was.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Like said, is this like Arthurian legend tale? And I
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: didn't feel like that at all, Like I just walked
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: into it was like, Okay, King Arthur. I really love
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: King Arthur. Like not no, not one bit I don't
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: know anything that Shreier has done, and the only thing
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: by the Daniels I've seen is Everything Everywhere All Once.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not a big movie buff person. I'm more a
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: book and a TV show person. I don't think I've
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: seen anything with Lee Isaac Chung.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Either, So it's like Fast and the Furious movies too, ohka,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: I think, I think, Yeah.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Then, yeah, I've seen those. I will be interested because
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: like Green Knight, very different compared to like Everything Everywhere
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: All Once, Like you're saying, very different compared to MC
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: spider Man. So it will be interesting. I think Bryce
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Els Howard is very good at adapting to a tone
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: for what her show runner wants to do. I really
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: need to see the girl do her own show, like
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: for the Life. Yeah, I need it that.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I agree with.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: You were gonna say something else.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: No, I agree that entirely. I will say to correct myself,
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Lee Isaac Chung, No, that was Jessin Lynn. I'm very
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: bad for confusing the two. I don't know why I
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: do that. No, Lee Isaac Chung was the director on Manari,
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: and then he's also done an episode of The Mandalorian.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, then I'm seeing that, but like I've not seen Manari,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: so the only other.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: TV writers, which I think is the scary thing, which
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: is the other issue I think Star Wars in every
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: other Prestige television series is running into They're hiring people
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: who make movies to make TV and they are fundamentally
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: different mediums.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think one of the things that we've
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: talked about is like, Okay, maybe they're using this as
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: like a an audition process for like, Okay, could any
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: of these people make movies, which is why they're giving
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: the budget that they do for these shows. But I
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: think with some of the WGA contract negotiations they will
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: be able to get a writer's room in which will
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: help a lot of these shows. But like Skeleton Crew
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: wasn't done. It was done before the WGA new contract,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: so I'm hoping with like I know Tony Gilroy was
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: doing and or So that was done too. But like
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: new things coming out Ahsoka season two for one, Like
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: somebody give Dave Filoni, Like, somebody edit Dave Filoni for
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: the life of me, please.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: Anyways, I will say I love well, I love Gianchino's dad.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: I like he does amazing work, so hopefully he got
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: daddy's jeans. Oh, he's doing He does the Penguin. He's
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: the composer on the Penguin.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: I have not gotten the and watched so but I
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: did see that because I think Snell brought up actually,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: but yes, we're talking about Mick Giacchino is the composer
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: for Skeleton Crew and his dad did Rogue One and
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: The Batman and has done a bunch of other things,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: but those are by Night.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: He directed yea by Night. Yeah, you're right, So.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Hopefully he got some dad's jeans and is able to
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: do a really good job.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: So can I also say something as I feel bad
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: for slandering John Watts. I only don't like his Spider
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Man's I do actually like some of his other stuff
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: because he did a horror movie called Clown that is
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: like atrociously great, like it is just aware of what
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: it is and in like the best ways. And he
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: just did the new Apple TV movie Wolfs, which was
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: really good. Yeah, so I will give John Wats his flowers.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: It came in kind of hot on him, and I
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: should be honest.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I love when people can be honest, but like I
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: love hot takes. It's just like I come from a
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: family that's always spilled tea, and you know it's you know,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I mean Kate, you know Hispanic family is always looking
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: for you know, it's just like we we got it.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: We gotta know it, we gotta see it. So whenever
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: somebody is on here and in sharing some of that stuff,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love it.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Hot takes are how I got my job here because
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Snell heard my defense of my I hate Netflix Nares
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Devil and was like, Okay, I like her. Yes that's
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: a whole Yes, that's the whole thing.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: And I've wounded you all enough. It's okay. I can
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: take I can take one for the team.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: I appreciate what they've pulled him into the MCU and
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: the stuff that they've had.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: There, but I.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Really enjoyed Ben affleck as stare deevil. Okay, we'll just
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: leave it at that's fair.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: I actually don't hate Affle like Daredevil. Those movies are fine.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: They are not as bad as people say they are.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not alone in the world. Clai like, Okay, I.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Can feel too much on this podcast.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: All right, So we're going to quickly add in this
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: book things because we have two things, and then we
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: will dive into the movie talk, but I figure the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: movie talk is going to kind of combine into one
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: topic and take us the rest of the show, so
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go do that. So the Rise of Skywalker
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: comic adaptation is coming officially once again, because it was
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: supposed to come out in June of twenty twenty and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: then was canceled because I'm assuming COVID, but then also
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: the reaction to the film, So now it's coming again.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: It will be a five issue series with scenes that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: were not featured in the movie, and it is going
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: to be done by returning comic book adapter Jodie Hauser.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Jody Hauser does a lot of the adaptations for Star
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Wars comics, like she did the Thrown books. So and
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: then the only other thing that we have is Kirsten
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: White's Pad One is getting a manga adaptation, which I
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: don't have that pulled up, but were they They were
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: here sumhmerre this is our chat. Welcome to the Chat.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: So we have this cover which has Obi Wan staring
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: off into a sunrise or sunset on Coruscant, and then
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: we have obi Wan in the wild on the planet
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: that I don't remember was featured because we really didn't
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: like this book, so but they're there. They've been doing
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of adapt manga adaptations for the Disney young
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: adult series books like Lost Stars has a really good
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: one that I know is super popular, So if you're interested,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: you can check those out. There is a pre order
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: and it will be released by Jakin. I don't know
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: that one, but it's on January sixteenth next year, so.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The only thing that I will add to
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: the book news is historically, as somebody who worked at
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: a comic shop when the last Jedi comic was coming out. Unfortunately,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: they don't do very well as far as like the adaptations.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Go, and yet Lucasfilm keeps doing them.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's just because they've done it with everything else.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: They've done a or at least I think they're actually
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: set to release a trade paperback of the full prequel trilogy.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I actually just saw a cover for it, but like, uh,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: it's thin.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: That's a dark horse with the graphic novel.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but still it's it's it's as far as
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: like adaptations for the movies, it's like, oh, well, we've
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: done one for everything else, so let's just continue making them. Also,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: I will say this, it does give people jobs as
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: far as editors, artists, and writers, so that's good for
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: the industry. Uh, but unfortunately it's just it's they're not
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: very popular.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: So just like I think how to Train Your Dragon
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: is going to be anyways not not a topic for
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Star Wars, but I just had to say it. Okay,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: I need to go refill my water before I cough
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: some more and miss my mute button. So Clay, why
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: don't you lead into the movie talk and I will
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: be right back. And we're about to jump into our
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: third ad, y'all. We promise we'll be right back. We promise.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Uh. The top of this movie news is, of course,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: the Simon Kinberg trilogy. Now, Kate, I did not know
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: this because I, uh was what is this? The Oh?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: No is Simon Kingberg? See? I always get this mixed up.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: He did the Phoenix movie correct for X Men? Yeah,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: right of the Phoenix see, and I jasus.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Users passed and last and and first class?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Was he a part of all of the Wait?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, wait no he wasn't. I don't think
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: he was. Sorry, Google, this isn't look this is the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: problem with Google. AI it just pops it to the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: top and tells you that's what it is.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: See. No, sorry, I will say this for those of
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: you he did not know. I saw a comic creator
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: say that if you go into a Google search and
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: use the subtraction sign and push AI on every Google
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: search that you do, it gets rid of the AI results.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: That is fantastic. So for anybody else was watching Okay, actually, yes,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: he was involved in Dasa Fuser's past. He wrote it.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: He wrote the abysmal Fantastic four movie. He also wrote
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: X Men Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: See I have not seen Apocalypse and I have not
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: seen Dark Phoenix. So for me.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Oh and the last end, Okay, Google AI wasn't wrong.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Oh look at that.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: He wrote that.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I it's really funny how people reacted to this. There
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: was two camps in the conversation about Kenberg being involved
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: in this new trilogy, and I want to hear your
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: opinion on Kinberg himself and the idea of these two
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: pockets of Star Wars fandom that have been created right now.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: On one side, people are saying this is great news.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: There's going to be one individual writing for all three movies.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: It's something that we didn't have for the sequel trilogy,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: so now we're gonna have it here. It's all gonna
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: be connected. That's one side of the story, whereas other
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: people are solely focused on the abysmal pieces of work
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: that he's worked on and saying, oh no, this is
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: what we get for Star Wars. I don't know how
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: we feel about this. So Kate, you got the floor,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: give me those hot takes you've been giving us all night.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about kin Berg? And these two?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Both sides of this coin that people are on.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: It's a monkey's paw situation. I want one writer to
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: handle a trilogy so they can tell one cohesive story
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: as I mentioned earlier. But oh my god, he does
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: not have a good thing in his repertoire. I guess
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: Invasion in Sherlock.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Holmes, okay, yeah, and the original.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Mister and Missus Smith. That's it. His like Homeboy goes
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: from State of the Union to Jumper, and like all
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: of the X Men movies. He did create Star Wars Rebels,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: which is good. So he has like a footing in
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: the Star Wars universe.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: I don't I like one two things that he has
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: done in his entire career as a writer, and I
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: watch a lot of movies. No, I think this is
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: a bad idea. But I mean, at least it feels
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: like they learned something from the last one.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Question mark.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: So is he is he? Is he directing or is
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: he just writing?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: I think that he is only producing?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: Like I like, okay, he's only producing. Okay, Well, then,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: like I wouldn't be that worried because if he's old.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Trilogy will be written and produced by Ken Bert.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, never mind, because he's produced some good movies.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: He produced a Haunting in Venice, He's produced he produced Legion,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: which is a fantastic TV show. Uh, he produced Designated Survivor,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: the Deadpool movies, Logan, Well, Chaffy, which was good. So
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: it's like, it's weird he is. It's weird.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: He's had a very clearly hit or miss career. Uh. Well,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: here's here's as somebody who has who has had a
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: very diverse opinion on the Star Wars universe, what is
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: your opinion on if this should be Because there's massive
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: rumors on this whole thing. Okay, so some people are
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: saying that this is, you know, going to be episode
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: ten eleven twelve. Some people say that it's not going
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: to be episode ten eleven twelve. We've kind of talked
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: about how you really love visions and that shows like
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: a very vast type of stories telling that isn't stuck
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: in the lucasfilm Star Wars Skywalker saga. Do we as
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: fans of Star Wars need an episode ten eleven twelve
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: or should they just jump on to something else?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: I think what sucks is and then this are the
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: hot ticcums. I think if jj Abrams had been able
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: to tell the story that he wanted to tell with
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: the sequel trilogy and Ray, I don't think we would
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: need it. But because I do think Ray's growth, like
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: the issue like taking like whatever opinion and about Last Jedi,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: aside the fact that it only takes place eighteen hours
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: after the start of the first one. Top Me ever,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: stunts the growth of Ray like she is somebody who
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: is confined to a matter of months, when she's a
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: character that deserves an actual long art like her O.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: Her time with her in the trilogy I think is
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: like about on part to the entire time that Luke
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: spends in Dagaba, like like that is insane to think
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: of because that's one section of that movie, right, Yeah,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: And so like I think that, like it's weird because
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: like I was a person who did not hate the
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: Race Skywalker of it All, because I'm also a person
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: who is a stepfather and a really terrible biological father.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: So I think that for me that hit as a
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: kid with non traditional families. But I just think, like,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: outside of The Skywalker of it All, I think Ray
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: herself deserves more. I think Finn deserves more, more substantially
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: more so, even if it's not a race story, Finn
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: deserves more, which is actually the reason I have an
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: issue with the sequel trilogy is because of what the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: second one does to Finn and Po. And so it's
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: weird because like in my heart of hearts, I want
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: to say, we don't need it, because we just need
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: different stories. Let things go. But I actually have an
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: attachment to the characters from the sequel trilogy that I
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: don't see got. I don't think got the ability to
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: grow in the way that they deserved to, and so
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: I almost want it as a do over in a
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: way which makes it very hard for me to be
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: like I don't want it at all.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: Which is very valid. I think that a lot of
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: people have found an attachment to all of these characters
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: that have been shown in the sequel trilogy, you know,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: which is why you know, the conversations of the Race
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: Skywalker film, you know, it has also so kind of
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: amalgamed into this whole kin Berg story as well, like,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: is he actually rewriting what we thought was going to
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: be the Race Guy Walker film and they're actually throwing
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: into a trilogy. Some people are saying, oh no, this
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: is going to be completely separate from that, and it's
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: it's all a huge mess right now. Which worries me
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: more than anything else in Star Wars is that, of
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: course lucasfilm has it right, but because there is so
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: many people saying so many different things, when those people
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: have had reliable sources in the past saying things, that
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: is still worries. You know, we heard that in the past.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: There was I forgot the writer that recently walked away
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: from the Skywalkers film night Yeah, walked away from the
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: from the film, and they were talking about how I
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: can't remember who the actual Scooper was at the time,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: but they were saying something of all in the lines
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: of like, oh, lucasfilm has kind of they can't run
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: on nostalgia anymore, or something like along those lines.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Star Wars is a nostalgia based enterprise and they're
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: running out of ways to create nostalgia.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, it's right here. It's right here,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: And I did show notes you walk away from that
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: and just create stories in a vast universe. That's the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: science fantasy you have Star Wars. That's all you need
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: No, I agree there, especially with the fact that the
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: December twenty twenty sixth movie has been taken off the calendar.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: I did not include that. I just realized that. But
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: with that being taken off, it becomes more likely that
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Kenberg is actually stepping in to write a full trilogy,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: and hopefully Charmine Obeyed Shanoi gets to stick around as
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: the director, because I think that's super important for her
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: to still be able to take on Ray Skywalker and
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: have that female perspective on her as a character.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: So let me see.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: Hey, I agree there. I think it's weird. I think
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: Star Wars is in a new place and Lucasfilms needs
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: to do some soul searching into what is actually what
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: they want to do, because I do think there is
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: a problem that they've continually run in by setting things
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: up so far in advance and then having stuff not
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: come into fruition that it stunts the growth of everything
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: else behind it, which is an issue.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: They need to pick something and stick to it, because
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, when The Force Awakens came out, like, there
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: were so many new fans that latched on. I know
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: so many people on Star Wars Twitter join on specifically
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: because of seeing right in that trailer and getting the
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: cosplays hurt at everything. So if you pick something and
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: stick with it, people are going to latch on, and
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: you are going to draw new fans in. The reaction
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: should not matter. You need to be able to stick
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: to a story and finish it out.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: And I think the weird thing for me is like
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: I think in general, like I don't even so I
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: don't even believe that Disney and Lucasfilms are directly looking
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: at Internet reaction and sentiment. I think they are looking
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: at numbers and conflating two things. And I think what
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: they are doing overall, and because this is what's happening
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: in a lot of studios, not just Disney is they're
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: making so many films by committee instead of actually letting
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: them become artistic, be artistic visions, that you're having them
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: just get curtailed and pushed out or taken off the
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: chopping block from like one test screening and not even
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: a test reading necessarily with audiences. But where like different
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: execs have their hands in the pie when like they
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: don't genuinely know what would make a good pie. They're
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: just there. And I think that that's the thing that
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: is going to I think if left uncheck, it's it's
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: going to run it into the ground, the same way
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: it's been doing with other with other things. I mean,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: it's what WB's having to deal with more broadly as well,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: because their executives are essentially putting together committees to greenlight
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: to write too, Like they're everywhere. There's so much oversight
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: that nothing's allowed to flourish.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: As Andrews said in the chat earlier when we were
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: talking about the shows, Lucasolm doesn't even know what they're doing.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Too many yeah chiefs and not enough Indians or as
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: I would like to say, too many managers and not
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: enough workers. Ah. So I completely agree with everything but
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: I know you have a heart out. I think Clay
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: and I have one more thing to discuss, but I'm
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: going to go ahead and let you close out. So
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: say your spiel Kate.
• 1:17:05
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• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: One question, just because I've been loving your hot takes
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: all night. We had this discussion right before we did
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: our interview with Stephen Barnes last week. If Star Wars
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're familiar with Bridgerton at all.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, if Star Wars adapted modern music the
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: same way Bridgerton does an orchestra form, yep, I knew it.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: I just I I think this is gonna be like
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: if they were to adapt modern music but infuse it
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: with their like overall, like Star Wars in world music,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: would that be a go for you? Or No?
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: This is funny because I want to be like, that's dumb.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: But I'm not talking about Bridgerton. I listen, I watched
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: Olive Rain on the CW and they have they that's yeah,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: I would not say no. I would not say no, and.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: This should be our final ad break. So y'all thanks
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: for bearing with us. We appreciate y'all. We'll be right back.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: It's a good idea.
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  Speaker 6: I think Lucasfilms should do it it, like, because everybody
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: is always annoyed at like Star Wars using modern music
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 6: for their trailers, like apparently this last Skeleton Crew one
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: like got a lot of people all up in a you.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: Know, tizzy because they used uh, a modern song to
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: to promote their show, and I just like, who cares.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: It's it's music, it's entertainment, whatever. But I think it
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: would be fun. I think it would be fun. But
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: that's all. That's all I wanted to ask. I I
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the key question Katie. Then
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask everybody. I'm really should you should?
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: I want to know if anybody else brings up Rain.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: So shout out to you, Katie for knowing exactly what
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: I'm talking.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: I have been looking at I always put on like
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: a dumb TV show while I'm working because I just
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: need the background noise. And I've been looking because Rain
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: is on Prime Video and I've been looking at it
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: and been like, Okay, I need to put that on,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: like and now I think I gotta do it.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: Like is it.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: Historically accurate with period clothing?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: Is it historically accurate? Was with music choice?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: Is it messy as all hell and really sexy? Yes?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely yes? And the oh my god, Adelaide is
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: in Craze anatomy now and I just love this anyways,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: So we will let you get out of here because
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: we know you gotta go. But once again, thanks for
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: being here. Go check out but why though on all
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: the social media platforms and the site.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, thank you so much. It has been great.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: I'm happy that you enjoyed my hot takes not everything. Yeah,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: thank you so much for having me.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Thanks by Kate. I all right, so I believe the
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: last bit of this that we need to discuss is
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: specifically the Hollywood Reporter article. Oh so, this is something
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: that I think we kind of talked about in the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: GUA chat or the Star Wars Lives chat, I don't remember,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: but part of this says unlike Marble or DC with
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: decades of stories propelling them forward, or been Harry Potter
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: with seven fleshed out books, Star Wars at its Court
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: has been the original George Lucas movies, and nothing has
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: been codified or made more canonical in modern times than
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: those three movies. To filmmakers and executives, the First Trilogy.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: So the original trilogy is the Old Testament. I don't
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: like how this sounds.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: I don't like it either, because I mean, from one,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: let's just get this out of the way. Yes, I
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: understand that, like we said, a lot of this stuff
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: recently has been focused on nostalgia. You can even say,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: going as far back as Rogue One, when you say, oh,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Darth Vader does not deserve to be in that movie,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't need to be in that movie. It was there
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: for a nostalgia piece. It was there to make the
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: connection from Rogue One to a new Hope with people
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: that just be like boom, I know why he's there,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just that nostalgia. Same thing with Luke
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: Skywalker and season two the Mandalori. Yep, it was all
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: nostalgia based. Now, thinking that the First Trilogy is the
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Old Testament, like the idea that this like again, it's
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: kind of what we were talking about with Kate, like
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: and what we've always said. I don't like being stuck
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: in a single timeline in what is described as a
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: massive eight hundred planet universe. Yeap, that is absolutely ridiculous.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it. Like it.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: You look at all these other things. You look at Marvel,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: you look at d C. And yes, you could say, oh,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: well Marvel had from Iron Man all the way to
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: Infinity War and they're gonna keep going blah blah blah.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: It's technically one story. If you look at the actual comics,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: those stories go everywhere with their storytelling everywhere. Same thing
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: with d C. Harry They I don't know why they
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: used Harry Potter in there. I know that they wanted
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: to try to.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Like it's just because they have reference material.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: They have read it. Yeah, that's basically it. But there
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: is when you set a precedent of a massive universe
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: to the point we're one of the key story points
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: in one of your Disney Plus shows is hey, we're
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: actually going to travel to a different galaxy.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: That is a problem. It really is.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: And like they can say all day long, oh, we
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: don't have reference material. Well you know what I'm staring
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: at over there on a bookshelf. I'm staring at roughly
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty Legends books, So you can't tell me,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: and I know this is the Hollywood reporter doing their
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: thing editorializing whatever. You have one hundred and fifty Star
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Wars Legends books, and before people tell me Legends was
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: not perfect. Yes, Legends was not perfect whatsoever, but it
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: is still reference material and it may be something that
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: George Lucas was like, yeah, you know, if you want
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: to write for Star Wars, you can write for Star Wars,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: but like, it's not going to matter to me. That
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: may be what he said, but that is still something
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: that Lucasfilm put their stamp of approval on on the
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: publishing page. Yes, the one hundred and fifty books probably
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: just I can't even say that because MCU has been
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: around for forever. So I was like, probably as much
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: storytelling as like Captain America has had, with like how
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: many pages are out there, because I've also got comics
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: on that bookshelf.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: But again, you have Captain America was made in the forties.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: So like Captain America's a bad example. I admitted it before.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little hard to compare the two,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: but I will say this. There is a lot of content.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: The one thing that Lucasfilm did wrong is he opened
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: the floodgates and said here you go, y'all can do whatever.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: He called it fan fiction, and that's exactly what people did.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: They fanfic the fuck out of this universe so much
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: so oh.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: That they every fan thinks they have a right to it.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But also they've mass produced books about it. Like
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: you said, a stamp of approval from Lucasfilm to put
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: that name Star Wars on a hardcover, on a paperback,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: on a comic, whatever it may have been. They said, okay,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: let's do it. There's there's You can't say that it
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: was not wanted because boom, it's right there and again.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: And even if Disney didn't want to approve of it,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: well then guess what They are printing things that say
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: the Essential Legends Collection on them.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, and you can tell me, oh, this is random
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: house World's idea. Everything Star Wars has to go through Lucasfilm.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: If you have an idea, Lucasfilm has to approve it.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: We talked to Stephen Barnes last me, who was like, yeah,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: I had ideas for this book. Look as SOMETHM didn't
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: approve them, like well he they approved some of them,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: but there was like other ideas, but.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: It was his editor. His editor, who works directly with
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Star Wars is gonna be the one to tell him
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: yes or no. And again we've already talked about this,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: but one thing that also holds them back continuously the
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: Skywalker saga, the idea that these characters, the same actors
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: need to play these characters over and over and over again.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: We've talked about this numerous times. Like Mark Hamill is
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: like getting to a point where I don't even think
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: he's voice acting anymore. Yeah, Like he he came out
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: of retirement to do one last scene for the Joker
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: in that Wild Infinite Crisis animated movie and that was it,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: Like he's not acting anymore. He didn't even like he
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: hardly acted for the Mandalorian. He was a stand in
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: and then they used an AI voice over machine or
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: software to his voice to make his voice sound younger,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: to attach to this actor who actually played Luke Skywalker.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: Like they are bending over backwards and hurting themselves when
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: they just need to say, hey, Luke Skywalker is a
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: fictional character that anybody can play. Yeah, it's it's that simple.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: We could beat a dead horse over and Orian. Yeah,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: like y'all know where we stand. This is dumb.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just very, very scary to hear this
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: from somebody who was supposed to leap at Lucasfilm. Yeah,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: so tell somebody, oh, this is the old testament. You
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: need to create a new testament. And we're running out
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: of nostalgia ideas. So here you go, Like, we're intrusting
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: you on this, but we're probably not gonna like it.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: Like like it's a scary thing to be under a
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: microscope like that.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: You know, one hund as I hack to put another
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: lung that nobody heard because I got the mute butt.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely batshit and studios have depended on nostalgia and
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: we're seeing it with the How to Train Your Dragon.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: We're seeing it with Malwana, which Malana is only not
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: even ten years old, and the live action behind the scenes.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: I saw the behind Yeah, I saw it today and
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Amber Lynn loves Moana, not gonna see it,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: not gonna see it. I love her to death. She
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: is also too young to be going to a movie theater.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Right now, even when it hits Disney Plus not gonna
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: watch it because I have also heard that How to
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: Train Your Dragon, if you've seen the animated movie, you've
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: seen the live action. That was a direct quote that
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: Daniel Rpka said, if you've seen the animated movie, you've
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: seen the live action.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: The trailer for How to Train Your Dragon, Toothless looks
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: identical minus his eyes, and the scene is like exactly
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: the same when what's his name meets Toothless like hiccup, no, yeah, no.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: They even got Gerard Butler back to play the dad.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's it's the it's the complete
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: opposite direction of like, cause again there's people that are saying, Oh,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: if I wanted to watch this, I could just go
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: watch the animated movie, and so Disney was like, oh,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: and Paramount like whoever dream works They're they're like, Oh,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, we'll just rewrite the animated movie
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: into live action. And that's just not the way to go.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: It's not original, it's not fun, Like, it doesn't do
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: anything for us.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: Hollywood has lost the creative bone in its body and
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: it doesn't know what to do with itself because That's
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: that's why we're living the nostalgia train. It's easy. They
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: don't have to rewrite scripts a dozen times because they go, oh, hey,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: we have something that works, let me just use this.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not seeing ma Wanatu in theaters. I'm not seeing
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: How to Train Your Dragon. I will always have animated
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: How to Train Your Dragon in my heart and available
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: to watch. I'm not going to see the live action one.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: You drag my whole dead body to that movie.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: I love.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: I loved How to Train Your Dragon. The animated one
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: like it is a great film, and it saddens my
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: heart because the live action, the one minute and eleven
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: second trailer doesn't have the vibrancy then How to Train
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: Your Dragon anyways, Okay, I'm sorry I keep talking about
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: how to Train Your Dragon. This is not How to
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: Train Your Dragon podcast. But that's my thoughts on that.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: I think that's about it on this. I don't know
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: what you and Kate talked about, because obviously I took
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: my headphones off.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: Well, no I I I genuinely just asked her what
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: her opinion is on the Kinberg thing, and she said
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: that she is in love with the idea of having
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: somebody complete a story from A to B. But it
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: being kin Berg and not having a great career is
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: what's really scary about the situation.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can agree with that. I really liked Dark Phoenix.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: I have not seen Phoenix. I haven't seen Apocalypse. I
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: haven't seen anything that that Kinberg has actually been a
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: part of. So I think I think he's produced movies
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: that I've seen, but like the stuff that he's written,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think i've seen so.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: I also and like for me, I'm in the same
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: boat because I I like continuity. Continuity is always good
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: for storytelling. But the fact that this person has a very,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: very hit and miss career, and I think one of
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: the quotes that we read in our chat two weeks
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: ago was, oh, well, we know that he'll get something
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: done quick. That's not the best idea when it comes
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: to Star Wars. You know, like to just churn out
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: a story. It's like, it doesn't give me a whole
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: lot of hope that it's going to be a good story.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, sorry, I was googling ken Burg. I was
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: googling ken Burg to tell you what he had written
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: on everything, and I just see this is geek tyrant
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: who is sourcing My Time to Shine and this apparently
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: was a subscriber's only post on Twitter.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Did you see this? I have not what happened.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: So they posted that Henry Cavell has had talks to
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: star in that Triller already.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: Don't know.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's too fresh and this is like
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: so comic book movie. Had this a day ago. A
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: geek tyrant posted this four hours ago, but Kinberg came
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: out last week. Why would they have already decided to
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: talk to a person to start That's bullshit. Okay, Anyway,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: I got completely distracted.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's for the fact that they are just
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: My Time to Shine is always trying to just grab
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: onto something. But also there has been a lot of
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: people that have been making up scoops and tagging legitimate scoopers,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: and they have been calling them out on it. So
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: don't believe everything you see on the internet. Guys, we
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: when we talk about this stuff, it is all rumor
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: mill It is speculation. It is a conversation that you're having.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: That's the whole point of us having this podcast. Yeah,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: but we don't say anything is official unless it's on
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: Star Wars.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: Dot com Yeah for sure. Okay, so writer, these are
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: the ones I know of which I think you would
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: have seen. I'm not saying any of the ones I
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: don't know. Mister and Missus Smith. The original, Yes, yes,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: the original, two thousand and five, X Men, The Last Stand,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: Sherlock Holmes, I have heard of this means War. I
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: don't recognize it, but I've heard of it.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: This Means War that's with Chris Pine and Tom Hardy.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, that's.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I need to watch that.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: I think I saw it on Hulu, and that is
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: why I was.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: Like, if you if you like a good rom com,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: funny stuff, Okay.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: X Men, Days of Future Past, Fantastic four, obviously, X
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: Men Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, the three, five to five, and
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: then the Killers game, which has not come out yet.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: That is an early rewrites, so excuse me. And then
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: he's produced a lot of things, but like Sherlock Holmes, phenomenal,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: loved it. That's the fact that he's not on Sherlock
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: Holmes two. That's probably why Sherlock Holmes three hasn't been
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: made yet. And I really enjoyed the new X Men stuff.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed Days of Future Past, I enjoyed Apocalypse, I
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: know that's like heresy, and I enjoyed Dark Phoenix.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: Like Last Stand was not great.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: I hated Last Stand.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: Last Stan was not great at all when you look
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: at that trilogy, horrible that that is the sore thumb
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: out of everything. But yeah, we'll see how it goes again.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: This is something that Lucasfilm definitely is attempting to get right.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: So I don't think that they will, you know, just
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: will and Nilly say hey, yeah, we completely trust you
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: without any notes. Let's get moving yea. If they don't
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: like his direction, I think they will get rid of him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just worried about how far out they're willing to
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  Speaker 1: push this trilogy until they finally say, oh, we're done
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  Speaker 1: dragging you guys along. I know it's twenty thirty seven,
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  Speaker 1: but we're not getting any trilogy no, yeap, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So let's close us out because I think that's about it.
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  Speaker 2: That is it?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it is, guys. Thank you so much for being
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  Speaker 1: with us. Want to go ahead and Kate, if you're
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  Speaker 1: listening to this afterward, I want to thank you again
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  Speaker 1: for being on here and sharing all of those lovely
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  Speaker 1: hot takes. Absolutely amazing, absolutely love them. You can always
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  Speaker 1: will definitely have to talk about making an account on
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  Speaker 1: there for the show to share as well. But I
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: have been sharing some stuff if you want to go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and follow me. That is more on my I'm
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: actually putting myself out there as the what I do
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  Speaker 1: as work. So I'm following a lot of comic people.
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  Speaker 1: So if you like that content, go follow me there.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, Joe and I have just released an episode
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: of Ranger Alliance talking about Power Rangers. Prime Issue number
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  Speaker 1: one was a phenomenal first issue for Power Rangers. Go
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  Speaker 1: check that out if you have not read it yet,
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  Speaker 1: and then go listen to our review. Very very fun.
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  Speaker 1: Go check it out. But yeah, that is it for me, Katie.
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  Speaker 1: Before you die, you may want to close this out.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I killed her? Oh no, it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's only my eighth love. You know, I got plenty
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: of those, No, y'all. I get bronchitis every time I
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: get sick, basically, so that's what I'm feeling. Words. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm just an Instagram person, so threads just.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of you're at person, Yes you are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So threads kind of came more naturally. But I'm
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• 1:42:29
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