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AEW Hot Topics | Keeping The Momentum · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Nine Ignition six five four three two one zero, All
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  Speaker 1: Engine running.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition with the AEW fan Hub podcast team. This is Kelson,
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  Speaker 2: and we are going to talk about some of the
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  Speaker 2: hot topics going on in AW and I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that there's anything hotter than the preparation for all Out.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the things that happened this week a
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  Speaker 2: W announced their scheduled or television schedule for the all
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  Speaker 2: Out week and it's kind of interesting because Dynamite's going
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  Speaker 2: to air at its regular time on TBS, but after Dynamite,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have a one hour special episode of Collision,
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  Speaker 2: and then they're doing the usual all out countdown to
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  Speaker 2: all Out after that. So we're gonna have basically four
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  Speaker 2: hours of television on Wednesday night, September seventeenth. Then on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: instead of doing a taped Collision, they're gonna do what
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  Speaker 2: they're calling I can't remember exactly what they're calling it,
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  Speaker 2: but they're doing like a tailgate party one hour before
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  Speaker 2: all Out starts. It starts at seven pm Eastern air
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  Speaker 2: on TNT on September twentieth. What I don't know is
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  Speaker 2: if this is going to be considered zero hour or
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  Speaker 2: if it's going to be running simultaneous with Zero Hour.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, all Out is going against Russellala from WWE,
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  Speaker 2: and I put the hypothetical Russell Palooza match card up
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  Speaker 2: in the sidebar. You have CM Punk and aj Lee
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  Speaker 2: versus Seth Rollins and Becky Lynch, John Cena versus Brock Wesner,
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  Speaker 2: Cody Rhodes versus Drew McIntyre for an undisputed title, Eo
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  Speaker 2: Sky versus Stephi d Vaker for I said Voker Women's
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  Speaker 2: World title, and the USO's versus the Bronsons. So you're
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  Speaker 2: looking at what five matches on the Wressell Palooza pay
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  Speaker 2: per view? They may add one more. The question that
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  Speaker 2: I have for you, look, guys, I really want to
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  Speaker 2: get into this. What do you There's so many different questions,
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  Speaker 2: but I want to start with has anybody heard if
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be having a regular zero hour or
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  Speaker 2: if this one hour collision on Saturday night before All
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  Speaker 2: Out is going to serve as the collision? And what
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  Speaker 2: do you think that AW has to do between now
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  Speaker 2: and all Out to really promote All Out? Because look
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  Speaker 2: at the hypothetical match card. WWE on paper kind of
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  Speaker 2: loaded it, loaded it up. What do you guys think?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, you go first?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we have dead silence. So yeah, yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: I would wait for people to say something.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not worried about it.
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  Speaker 4: I know there's some good stuff down the line with
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  Speaker 4: AW and shaping up already. They got several good matches
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  Speaker 4: going on, so I'm not I'm not worried about it.
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  Speaker 4: There's no pay per view like an AW pay per view,
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  Speaker 4: so we'll stack up. The only thing I'd be interested
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  Speaker 4: in seeing is the women's matches. I don't like Cody
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  Speaker 4: Rhodes match. I don't like Curry Roads as a personality,
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  Speaker 4: so uh, I wouldn't care about that neither. So I
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  Speaker 4: think you'll get what you get.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, well you said something really interesting there. You
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  Speaker 2: only care about the women's matches. Look, Yesky versus Stephanie
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  Speaker 2: is going to be that. That's that's a match. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's a great match. What match would you like
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  Speaker 2: to see a w counter it with? Did you have
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  Speaker 2: anything in mind? I mean, well, and I'm talking about
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  Speaker 2: a women's match. What would you do if you were
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  Speaker 2: a W putting women's match together for.
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  Speaker 5: All Outzilla respectfully, Like everybody popped for Bozila online as
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  Speaker 5: far as I saw a Forbidden Door, like, there's no
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  Speaker 5: reason not to bring her back. That's just me just spitballing,
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 2: But if you okay, but if you bring back Mozilla
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  Speaker 2: and what what capacity?
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  Speaker 6: I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Uhh, I want to see a multi man multi woman
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  Speaker 4: match with Bain Bain, Statlander, Bozilla and somebody and and
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  Speaker 4: Tony go at it like.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well we just did that at the last pay
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  Speaker 2: per view. We just did that at Forbid Door.
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  Speaker 4: Tony needs something and she's not getting any challengers. Who's
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  Speaker 4: left for Tony to really face?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they could, you know, if they really wanted to
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  Speaker 2: make a splash, aw can bring in Dakota Kai. Uh
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  Speaker 2: that would be you know, if you were going to
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  Speaker 2: bring a Dakota Kai, say even as early as tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: night and have her confront Tony Storm or Mercedes Monette,
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  Speaker 2: that would be a pretty marquee matchup right there. I think,
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  Speaker 2: what do you guys think about that idea?
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  Speaker 6: That sounds great.
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  Speaker 4: I just feel one of them has to lose a
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  Speaker 4: title here pretty soon.
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  Speaker 5: No, I agree with you and then bringing it back
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  Speaker 5: to something else that mister K said, like there is
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  Speaker 5: nothing like in a w pay per view.
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  Speaker 2: You know, these are.
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  Speaker 5: Two completely different products. These are two like other than
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  Speaker 5: the women's matches. I agree that that's the only thing
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  Speaker 5: that really moves me on that card. On the hypothetical card,
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  Speaker 5: I am more moved by whatever a w has to offer.
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  Speaker 5: The build with uh Copa Christian versus FTR has been
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  Speaker 5: really cool. Then, Like I'm just I'm just really excited
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  Speaker 5: for all Out. I'm really excited for what is coming
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  Speaker 5: up after all Out? You know this does I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Care what forget? Yeah, mox Moxley versus Darby Allen, which
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  Speaker 2: you know it's it's gonna be a war.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have I havens. When I initially saw
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  Speaker 3: WWE throwing out Russell Palooza's counterprogramming, I expected it to
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  Speaker 3: be one of their like two and a half to
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  Speaker 3: three hour plees where they had one or two marquee matches.
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  Speaker 3: But it's pretty clear they are loading the show up
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  Speaker 3: and I don't think it's co instance. They're going hard
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  Speaker 3: at aw when their two top babyfaces are out. That's
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  Speaker 3: where of an Osprey and nowhere to be seen. I
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  Speaker 3: think WWE is going to be very aggressive over the
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  Speaker 3: next couple months because I do think AW is in
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  Speaker 3: a vulnerable position. We talked about it on last week's show.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they've done enough booking yet. We are
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  Speaker 3: three weeks out and we have two official matches this week.
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  Speaker 3: AW has to put up a shut up. If you
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  Speaker 3: were going to put on a competitive product against WWE
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  Speaker 3: and you're going to pull people, I'm sorry, but edgend
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  Speaker 3: Christian reuniting is not going to be enough with what
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  Speaker 3: they're up against. So I really need to see them
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  Speaker 3: get something going. You guys are articulated some of the
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  Speaker 3: problems seeing the lineup for the women's contenders. I think
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  Speaker 3: that's key. We should know these things by now, and
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  Speaker 3: I think that's been a problem with some of their
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  Speaker 3: booking for some of the smaller pay per views is
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  Speaker 3: we are two or three weeks out and we only
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  Speaker 3: have one or two marquee matches. They need to get
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  Speaker 3: that taken care of this week, and if they don't
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  Speaker 3: have more matches named, they at least need to have
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  Speaker 3: the pieces in play like with WWE right now, so
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  Speaker 3: we know what is going to be announced like I
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  Speaker 3: think a WWE, it's like one or two official matches,
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  Speaker 3: but clearly the pieces are all there for others that
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  Speaker 3: needs to be established in AW this week. I have
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  Speaker 3: some concerns about this pain view right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look the way I look at it
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  Speaker 2: with the WWE card, Cody versus Drew is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a big people like Cody and people like Drew.
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  Speaker 2: I if there is one wrestler in WWE that I
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  Speaker 2: would love to have an AAW, it would be Drew McIntyre.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's fantastic when it comes to the Sky
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  Speaker 2: and Stephanie of a Kerr that is a marquee matchup
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  Speaker 2: and frankly it just go back. I would love to
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  Speaker 2: have them in AW, both of them. But look, here's
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  Speaker 2: the thing. When you look at WWE, especially recently, they somehow,
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  Speaker 2: some way find a way to mess things up. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how they manage to do it. Uh, they
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  Speaker 2: they have weird look and I think the best example
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  Speaker 2: of this are the two of the other matches. See
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  Speaker 2: I'm punking aj Lea versus Seth Rollins and Becky Lynch.
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  Speaker 2: If you saw the Becky Lynch against Mickey the Nicky
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  Speaker 2: Bella match that was a travesty that was just absolutely awful.
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  Speaker 2: The no chemistry.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: People are even saying that Becky Lynch phoned it in.
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  Speaker 2: I just I don't think so. I just don't think
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  Speaker 2: that they had to. Look, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 4: I said they really blame her. They need to get
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  Speaker 4: rid of Nicki Bella. She hasn't been good for years.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why they keep on bringing her back,
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  Speaker 4: why people want her.
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  Speaker 2: But my point here is is that you have see
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  Speaker 2: I'm punk who can't wrestle anymore. He gets gassed and
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  Speaker 2: he's on it. He's just not good. And aj Lee
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  Speaker 2: he's in the same probably he could say the same
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  Speaker 2: boat as Nicky Bella. She hasn't been around. She's gonna
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  Speaker 2: They're not gonna have This match is gonna mostly probably
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  Speaker 2: be c I'm punking seth Rawlins going at it with
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  Speaker 2: aj Lee and Becky Lynch doing little things because I
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  Speaker 2: don't think aj Lee is would be able to do anything.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have John Cena against brock Lesner, and
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  Speaker 2: I am sorry that is going to get some eyes
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  Speaker 2: on it, but to me, that's two forty eight year
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  Speaker 2: old park timers in a meaningless match.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're looking at this too from an AAW
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  Speaker 3: fans perspective. We watch AW because I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: speak for everybody here, but I think most folks would agree.
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  Speaker 3: We prefer the in ring style and are more in
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  Speaker 3: ring focused. Fans like matches to tell the stories as
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  Speaker 3: opposed to the stories to book the matches. So for us,
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  Speaker 3: these don't These don't seem appealing. But if you're in
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  Speaker 3: a case said this earlier, it's a different product. If
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  Speaker 3: you're a generic wrestling fan or a WWE fan, like
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  Speaker 3: this is a huge card. These are major characters. They
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  Speaker 3: don't tune into the pay per views expecting the high
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  Speaker 3: level of athleticism and matches that we get in AW
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  Speaker 3: because to case point, it's a different product. So I
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  Speaker 3: think people are being a little too cavalier with not
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  Speaker 3: tuning in like this is the WWE is loading up
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  Speaker 3: this card for a reason, and are they hot shotting
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  Speaker 3: some things? To your point, Kelson, it's entirely possible. And
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  Speaker 3: if they do these reactive bookings where they try to
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  Speaker 3: overwhelm me AW every time, they will get in the
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  Speaker 3: way of their long term booking and storytelling. Because you
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  Speaker 3: can't do that. You can't hopshot in perpetuity. But they're
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  Speaker 3: loading up this card and right now, I don't see
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  Speaker 3: anything in AW from a name brand standpoint that is
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  Speaker 3: going to match up with what they're putting out there.
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  Speaker 3: And that's concerning to me. I do not like the
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  Speaker 3: build for all out right now.
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  Speaker 2: No, and I agree with you, what's good? Go ahead?
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  Speaker 2: The car was h what was that? Hey?
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  Speaker 3: Mute it?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you realized he was a muted Okay? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Did you have something to suggest?
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  Speaker 6: Yes? I did.
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  Speaker 8: I think WWE has always been good at, like always,
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  Speaker 8: what they're good at is spectacle. I despise brock Lesner
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  Speaker 8: and everything he stands for. The man disgusts me.
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  Speaker 6: But his match with John Cena is going to be
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  Speaker 6: just that, a grand spectacle. But what's beyond that? Both
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  Speaker 6: him and John Cena are so old, there's like it's
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  Speaker 6: it's all flash and sizzle but no steak. I think
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  Speaker 6: people hopefully will realize that this is just like a
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  Speaker 6: peep like booking decision to try to like, oh look
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  Speaker 6: over ere we got brock Lesnar and John Cena, remember them,
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  Speaker 6: ignore the w the ae W behind the curtains. I
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  Speaker 6: don't think that's kind of I don't think that's going
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  Speaker 6: to work because there's no substance.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh sacked, what I saw that you wanted to speak?
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  Speaker 2: What did what did you have in mind?
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  Speaker 9: Be honest, I feel like they can like make sure.
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  Speaker 9: I'm I know it's too too late, but I think
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  Speaker 9: I know they want Mercedes Monee to like hold his
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  Speaker 9: belt longer than Jay Cargill did. But if if you
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  Speaker 9: can make like a good good match for all you
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  Speaker 9: can do like Mercedes mone versus Alex Winster for the
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  Speaker 9: belt because it's like one of like the top people.
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  Speaker 9: And plus I didn't mercees Mo name needs to lose
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  Speaker 9: a title since she has like nine belts right now?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, well Sex, let me let me ask you, well, you,
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  Speaker 10: first of all, you do know that tomorrow night, Dynamite
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  Speaker 10: Mercedes Monett is facing Alex Windsor for the TBS Championship.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the when it comes to Jade Cargill you mentioned
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  Speaker 2: this last week. Mercedes Monet will pass Jade Cargill for
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  Speaker 2: the longest reigning TBS champion two days before Russell Dream happens.
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  Speaker 2: I personally don't think that they need to keep those
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  Speaker 2: belts or that TBS Championship Belt on Mercedes Monee so
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  Speaker 2: she can break Jade Cargill's time record. I really don't
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  Speaker 2: because there's no comparing Mercedes Monet and Jay Cargill. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just.
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  Speaker 9: Jay Cargo was like really good, was like I don't know,
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  Speaker 9: in the middle between in AW because she was well.
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  Speaker 9: I didn't watch like mostly AW for that time period
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  Speaker 9: because I mostly I was mostly a WW guy myself,
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  Speaker 9: but I was. But I started watching a lot of
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  Speaker 9: a lot of her now when she.
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  Speaker 2: Was like in WWE.
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  Speaker 9: But I realized I watched some of her old matches
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  Speaker 9: and she was doing good and she knew how to wrestle,
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  Speaker 9: she knew how to like do her finisher and all that.
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  Speaker 9: But I just feel like Mercedes Money is a tiny
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  Speaker 9: little bit overrated.
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  Speaker 2: Well I think part of it is with Mercedes one
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  Speaker 2: Day being overrated, is that her gimmick is being over
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  Speaker 2: I think about it. I think her gimmick is being overrated.
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  Speaker 2: Am I off base there? Does anybody have an opinion
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  Speaker 2: on that? No?
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  Speaker 3: I think you're totally sat on kills.
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  Speaker 2: I mean she's out there just you know, literally just
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  Speaker 2: smarming it up. With every everybody.
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  Speaker 5: She came into this company and immediately swiped off the
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  Speaker 5: title off of my beloved Willow Nightingale, Like that's that's
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  Speaker 5: been her thing, just show voting and upstaging everybody. She
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  Speaker 5: proclaimed herself as the CEO of this company. Like yeah,
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  Speaker 5: kind of forgiving. I don't you know, I personally don't
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  Speaker 5: care for her, but she's a heel, Like that's that's
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  Speaker 5: her thing. She's supposed you know, if you don't like
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  Speaker 5: her because she's overrated, she's doing her job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So look, I agree with Barry and others that
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  Speaker 2: said that AW needs to go ahead and you know,
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  Speaker 2: start making some matches and they need to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Would you agree that they need to do it starting
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow at Dynamite. They really need to make a couple
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  Speaker 2: more matches at least, I would say two more matches,
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  Speaker 2: ye for all out.
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, Kyle Fletcher is out there, he's hot,
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  Speaker 2: he's got to have a match, and it's got to
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  Speaker 2: be good. And I really do believe that they need
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  Speaker 2: to make it to where Tony Storm or Mercedes Monet
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  Speaker 2: actually loses. And when I'm gonna say this, I think
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  Speaker 2: that one of those should if somebody was to lose
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  Speaker 2: a belt, whether it's Mercedes Monet or Tony Storm or
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  Speaker 2: one of the other title holders, really it has to
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  Speaker 2: be done like on the opening match, so people will
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  Speaker 2: hear about it and they'll be going, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: all out. We don't know what to expect on all out.
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  Speaker 2: They're not doing the expected because look, if you see somebody,
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  Speaker 2: look Tony Storm versus Alex Windsor versus No No, Willow
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  Speaker 2: Knight and Gale versus what will Chris stat Lander in
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  Speaker 2: a four way for the women's Championship. It's been done before.
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  Speaker 2: But I say been done before, It's been done a
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  Speaker 2: lot before. They need to do something new, you know.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things that really bugs me about aw's booking,
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  Speaker 3: and I generally don't have a lot of the problems
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  Speaker 3: that some of the bad faith people online because I
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  Speaker 3: don't think AW does enough to set up number one contenders.
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  Speaker 3: And we've we've already hit on this a couple of times,
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  Speaker 3: and I feel like we do each week who's next?
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  Speaker 3: For this, Who's next? Like they're starting or they had
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  Speaker 3: been before injuries, getting the main events seen pretty well established,
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  Speaker 3: so we know who the next men but the other titles.
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  Speaker 3: Who's next in line for the tag titles, who's next
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  Speaker 3: in line for the TVs title, Who's next in line
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  Speaker 3: for the TNT title, Who's next in line for the
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  Speaker 3: women's title. We're already talking about maybe adding women's tag belts.
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  Speaker 3: Like Tony does not do a good job establishing contenders,
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  Speaker 3: and I think it time we start using these pay
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  Speaker 3: per views to put a big Number one's contender match
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  Speaker 3: in it. There's no reason why. And if I'm booking
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  Speaker 3: a show, I would have the number one contenders matches early,
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  Speaker 3: so that always gives you the opportunity at the end
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  Speaker 3: of the show, after the main events sequence having or
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  Speaker 3: setting an ankle off on there. You don't need to
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  Speaker 3: do it every show, but that way we know that
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  Speaker 3: card is going to be there. But I just even
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  Speaker 3: on the pay per view or I'm sorry, the TV
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  Speaker 3: the week of the pay per view. Like I like
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  Speaker 3: the idea of this live collision. It reminds me of
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  Speaker 3: how Sunday Night Heat used to be for WWE on
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  Speaker 3: Sundays before pay per views. That was their stuff. It's
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  Speaker 3: on regular TV. I think this is brilliant. Get it
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  Speaker 3: on TV. Try to get a couple more buys and
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  Speaker 3: the number one's contender match on that build it up
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  Speaker 3: on regular TV to give people a reason to tune
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  Speaker 3: into the pre show and then they're gonna know who's
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: going to be coming in and facing off against the
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: champ at the end of the show, you know, setting
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: up the next big match for TV or pay p
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: review down the line. Like, I really would like to
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: see them start incorporating that so we know who challenges
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: are and have a better idea of what the narratives
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: are in these divisions. It's it's just still a nagging
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: thing for me, and I'm really getting think of it.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: See, I missed the power rankings back in the day.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: We used to have the aw used to have where
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: it showed who who was.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just you're just putting yourself in a
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: shoebox booking like like that. But I think that the
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: cool thing is, to your point, we always know who
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: the top contenders were. I'm fine if they keep something
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: similar where once a month they remind people based on
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: you know whatever, here's who we think are the top
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: three contenders. I don't really care, but just let us
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: know who those next people in line are. Because right
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: now it's just a void.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we get you know. One of the things that
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: we should do a long time ago in aw Fanhub
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: is that every Sunday morning, we used to get together
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: in a group just like this, and we would do
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: a uh take every every title and we would do
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: a power ranking. Each person would come up with top
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: five and we would sort it out and together we
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: would come out with a top five for each title.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: And our power rankings I thought were spot on spectacular.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: They made sense. They didn't go by wins or losses.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: They went by who's hot and who had the most
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: heat whatever. Sometimes the rankings were obvious, sometimes they weren't,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: but they eventually came to pass. They eventually came to pass.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: People that we ranked in those power rankings eventually won
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: a title, and it would sometimes take months and months
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: and months, but it eventually happened. I personally didn't like
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the ranking system because it just it had to do
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: with booking, not had nothing to do with aura. I
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: guess that's the big biggest thing. The difference between power
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: rankings and just the rankings is that the rankings don't
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: have anything about aura or heat or pops or anything.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. So it didn't take anything.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Someone gets hot, but I mean the way around that though, kels.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Just give them somebody gets hot, then give him wins
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: on TV. Move them off those rankings, you know, Yeah,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: you can do it, It's just the inconsistency made it
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: hard to keep it. The only time I remember the
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: rankings even being cool on TV was there was a
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: match I think it was let me trying to think,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: after the Brit Baker thunder Rosa death match. I think
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: later that night somebody who was the number one contender
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: lost and that moved Britt Baker back up and she
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: came out of the right all beat up. That's the
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: only time I remember that ever being a significant thing
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: on TV. And it was a great moment. But like
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: you got a book for those types of things, and
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I just don't think narratively that's worth it. I'm more
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: with you. You need to adjust the bild who gets hot.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: You know. And somebody brought up Bozilla and I hate
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: to say this is I really like Bosilla, but no.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: And the reason I say no is simply because you
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: bring Bozilla in, you know that she's not gonna win,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: So what's the point you have to have some kind
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: of what's gonna happen here? You know, you can't have
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: a card for all out where you know what's gonna happen.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I think that's where the strength of the two matches
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: that are already booked, Christian Cage and Adam Copeland against FDR,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: we don't know what's gonna happen. I had. The same
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: thing can be said about Darby Allen and John Moxley.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: We don't know what's gonna happen. But if you put
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Bozilla against Tony Storm, of course Tony Storm's gonna win.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: They're not gonna put it on a twenty two year
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: old stardom woman that has obligations in Japan, and you
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: know that that's the stick. They've got to have somebody
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: within the company that can that can fight for these titles.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: And I'm not just talking about the women's titles, but
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the tag team titles. I'm talking about
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: you know, look, you got Wet, you got the tag
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: team match, it all out already set up. What about Broddo?
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: You know, what are they gonna do? You've got to
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: have something for them, and it's got to be good.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: What so I'm thinking about what else they've been setting up.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Clearly they revisited Beckle and Jamie Hater this week, so
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: we're gonna get that at some point. I don't think
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: it should be at this pay per view, but I
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: keep thinking, you know, they seem to be building to
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: a women's blood and guts five on five. Maybe they
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: pull the trigger and do that it all out.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe, Uh, that's it, brings the way for the team.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, blood and guts, but that was always the men.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: There's no reason why the new tradition can be a
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: woman's button guts it all out and or do whatever,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: make it a crazy one, you know, I don't know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: but make it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: They don't even have to call blooded guts. But you
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: know it is a blood and guts match exactly. That
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: they could still do a blooded guts with the men
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: in what November is how would they usually do it?
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's clear they've been building up these
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: two five person factions. So when they pull the trigger,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: is it might as well be the pay per view.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can set that up this week and
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: establish that, right, they've got everybody in place already.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, another thing that they can possibly excuse me. Another
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: thing they could possibly do is uh Hologram versus El Clone,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: So I'd like to that. You know. The only thing
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: is is that they revealed you know that it's aries
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that is Hologram's long time rival. He was in gc W.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Of course in the lucha scene, Triple A Uh. A
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: W offered of a contract w W WE offered him
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: a contract. He decided to go with a W. Uh,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: so he has signed.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: The only thing is that I've heard that he's got
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: a small foot injury that he's dealing with, but they
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: don't expect it to keep him sideline for more than
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: a week or so.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: He tagged with TOO, I think yeah.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Within the last year, he's also had matches
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: with oh gosh, uh Speedball, Mike Bailey.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Uh, it makes sense, familiar with.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah and Helico. He's uh beast Mortos. Uh that's within
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: like the last few months with it.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Definitely a good crew, good core, good core people. He's
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: familiar with.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: A A W is his style is described I've never
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: seen him wrestle, and I've kind of not wanted to
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: look him up. Uh, but his style is described as
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: strange style.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: So I need I need to watch the matches. I guess.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know they say his presentation, his ring
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: gear is incredible. Uh, and he could definitely go in
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: the ring. So I'm looking forward to seeing him, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I'm trying. I know I'm not gonna be able to
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: do it. I'm gonna end up looking them up, but
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I'm trying not to because I want.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: To be surprised. It is fantasy book, this whole thing.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: So like Clone or I like pump fom on purpose,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: So he comes out dressed up just like Hologram, same
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: move set, and then just kind of like back in
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: the night Evil night writer days and stuff if your
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: friends in the eighties. I think at the very end,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Clone should then be cured. And then we have two
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: holograms and they tag team three Harley, Harley Graham. Come on, okay,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: there's so any rate. So Hologram converts Clone to Hologram too,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: and they form a tag team and you give them
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: the belt. H yeah, there you go, there you go,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: and the trios put Harley in there yet. Yeah, that's
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: why I don't do this for a living, everybody, for
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: for what this guy does.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: I need to look up some matches, so I can
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: kind of understand where this guy's coming from. But then again,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: you know, that's what a lot of people need to
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: do when they hear Who's Who's New but.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Big animate villain showdown, Like.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think where. I don't think that I'm out
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: of line when I say this, But people that are
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: going to watch All Out or people that watch a
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: w are going to walk aw People that are gonna
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: watch or have watched WWE all this time are probably
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: going to watch WWE, especially since you know it's on
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the shiny new network ESPN, and you know they have
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: stacked the card a little bit. My thing with WWE
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: is they could put out the best stacked card in
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: the world. They still got to go out there perform,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and they just don't. They don't. Their shows are slow
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: and plotting. I mean, Clash in Paris, in my opinion,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: was torturous to watch simply because of the pacing. It
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: just was awful. Now I know they can do it
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: because I watched Money in the Bank and I love
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the pacing of that show. You know, it just seemed
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: to flow a lot better. But they with the commercials
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: and the video packages and everything else like that, it
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: really your well, at least me, it causes my mind
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: to drift, and AW just doesn't do that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I think what the wweeds the amount of advertising they
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: sell exactly. I think this is going to be a
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: slow show because they're gonna have a lot and they're
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: gonna sell a lot of adds.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: For the show. Oh sure, you know, But look, I
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: want to make things clear here. I want w W
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: to succeed and I want a W to succeed. It's
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: not like I want one to, you know, dismantle the other.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: That's not the point, you know. I do want them
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: both to succeed.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I think that frankly for WW fans, I think that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: having Aw's All Out on the same night as Russell
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Palooza is going to make hopefully Russell Palusa better show
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: than it probably would have been other wise, because I
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: don't think you would have had this stacked card otherwise
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: if it wasn't on the same night, It's quite possible
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: they would have had the show. There was a there
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: was a topic it you know, Greatness of Wrestling subreddit
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: where somebody asked, do you think the w w W
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: will outdraw a W on All Out? Russell pluesa weekend,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and they didn't explain what outdraw is. Is w w
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: to get more viewers. Of course they are. You know,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: are they going to get more fans in the arena.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Probably not, And that's not because they can't. It's because well,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: it's because they can't. You know. The the arena for
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: All Out is simply bigger than the arena for you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: for Russell Pluza it had it holds like two thousand
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: and three thousand more seats than Russell Bluees's arena does.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: So it just depends on, you know, if if one
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: or both of them want to open up some truly
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: crappy seats just to get the attendance, you know what
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I mean. That's my big worry is that one of
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: these companies is gonna do something stupid like that and
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: open up seats behind a big screen or a crane
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: or whatever and or a you know, a video board
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: whatever just to get the attendance, and then you're gonna
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: have people complaining, well, I couldn't see.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: A damn thing, hey, you know, I mean, if the
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: demand is there and someone will buy him put them up.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So look, I don't know, it's it's going to
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: be interesting, and we're gonna be finding out a lot more. Again,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: my big question is is whether that one hour show
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: on September twentieth, starting at seven pm Eastern is going
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: to be zero hour. If it's going to run in
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: conjunction with zero hour, you know, it's.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Just zero I don't think they do too. I think
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: that's zero hour. I mean that's the show. I don't
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: if they do a zero hour maybe before and then
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: they tell them to tune in and just silent ast,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: but I don't see him doing too.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Hyeah, they may. They may do a zero hour starting
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: at like six pm. Maybe I have a couple of
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: matches on that that had the tailgate. Maybe even do
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: if it's a true tailgate. I don't see why how
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: they can call it a tailgate and have a zero
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: hour at the same time, because tailgate means it's out
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: in the parking lot.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: But if the rings out in the parking lot, we
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: all know it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: Mosly likes to be in the parking lot, so it's
• 33:42
  Speaker 11: quite Yeah.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: But my point is is that you want the fans
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: in the arena. You don't want the show, the actual
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: pay per view to start and fans be out in
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: the parking lot looking at this whatever it is, and
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: of course fans want to get in and try to
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: get merch and whatnot. You know, so I just don't
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: see this tailgate thing working, you know, the way as
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: a true tailgate thing. Put it that way.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe they just call it a tailgate because Renee and
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: RJ City are walking around outside while all the matches
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: are still inside with the people. Maybe for sure it's Brandy.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe they call it a tailgate because during that show,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Darby Allen back's over to John Moxley with a geep.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: There'll be some comedy bit where our J has to
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: learn how to grill and he'll be completely overwhelmed and
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Renee will have to show him how to do it,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: and you know.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: She does.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's move on. I know that I
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: believe it was k that wanted to talk about something.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Am I correct there? Okay, yes, sir.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: I wanted to start with a humble brag and then
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: end with a point. I have been blessed to go
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: to many aw shows live and in person. I've been
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: to every Grand Slam in New York except for the
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: first one, and I punched myself every day for that.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: Been to the Hammerstein, been to Crudential Center, been to
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Ubs Arena, right all that joint and this past Saturday
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: I was blessed to go to the twenty three hundred
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: Arena as I was corrected earlier. And it brings into
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: question the presentation of AAW in these bigger arenas and
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: stadiums and then bringing it closer to home with these smaller,
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: more intimate venues. I'm always a sucker for an intimate venue.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: I'm blessed to be living really close to the mecca
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: out in Jersey, in Ridgefield Park where many indie shows.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: It is called the Mega for a reason many indie
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: shows come through. I've been blessed to see DPW, I
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: saw Speedball, Brian Keith, J Mallachi, the Workhorseman, yes, both
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: of them at the same time, the grizzly young vets
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: all on the same show, you know, in the same building.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: And having that intimacy with an AW show like with
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: the Workhorsemen again or at least one of them. Just
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: it's wonderful being that close to the talent. It makes
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: it feel more real that FTR match. I'm still like
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: shaking from the way that the crowd was reverberating. And
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: I'm also sad because as a New Yorker, I'm not
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: getting another Grand Slam. But my beloved, who you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: we go to the shows together all the time. He
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: put into question, He's like, you remember the last Grand
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Slam we went to and how kind of empty it was.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: How they they're not really selling as many tickets. And
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: I think it's a really smart decision that they're bringing
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: the talent and the fans closer together with these smaller
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: venues with cheaper ticket prices. Because I was up against
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: the barricade for maybe fifty bucks a pop. Yeah, all
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: out wrestlers. I flipped off Dax Harwood, and I know
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: he saw me. You know, I really appreciate them bringing
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: the fans and the talent closer together in these small spaces,
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: and I hope that they continue to do it with
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: venues across the country, not just at twenty three hundred,
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: but like everywhere else.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So a W has done some a lot of shows,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: residencies Hammerstein, Hammerstein E Sports Stadium in these smaller venues.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: What do you guys think of these? Do you enjoy them?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: And if you do, what's your favorite? Which one's your favorites.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: I go ahead.
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: Sorry, no, you're pro You're fine. But yeah, I've liked
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: a intimate wrestler show since uh Ring of Honor used
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: to come through and do shows at the Express, which
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: is like a smaller venue, uh sort of nearby the
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: main arena, the main arena district here in Columbus. It's
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: a great place for like smaller concerts and shows. I
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: nearly had. I nearly had a pre AW Cody Roads
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: uh Through throw Minero Suzuki into my lap during one
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: of those shows. That also one of those shows where
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: I first met Kenny Omega. So I am all for
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: I am all for a more inter venue, and I
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: would love for AW to do a residence to get
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: the Express if they can. I don't know how big
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: of a market wrestling market Columbus is, but I would
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: love them to come by for a while.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Not were you going to say something?
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I was gonna say that I like the small venues.
• 38:57
  Speaker 11: I like them a lot. Being that close to the
• 39:00
  Speaker 11: action to the wrestlers. Going to the independent shows here
• 39:06
  Speaker 11: in Seattle, I've seen a lot of the AW talent
• 39:10
  Speaker 11: of close and personal, being able to talk with them
• 39:13
  Speaker 11: and interact with them. The favorite that AW has done
• 39:19
  Speaker 11: for me is when they were in Chicago at that
• 39:22
  Speaker 11: Aragon Ballroom, because I've been there, I'm from Chicago, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 11: I loved that. I'm really enjoying them now being at
• 39:33
  Speaker 11: the twenty three hundred because I used to watch ECW
• 39:38
  Speaker 11: and it just brings back a lot of those memories
• 39:41
  Speaker 11: for me of the first time I became a wrestling fan.
• 39:48
  Speaker 11: It's almost like seeing it happen all over again, and
• 39:52
  Speaker 11: I just I love it. It has that feel. That's what
• 39:56
  Speaker 11: I like about AAW in general, is it has that
• 39:59
  Speaker 11: feel of independent wrestling and you can be close to
• 40:04
  Speaker 11: the wrestlers and talk to them and interact with them.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: And like, k.
• 40:13
  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it's a few bucks and if in a
• 40:17
  Speaker 11: really good time. So yeah, Well.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: I wanted to bring something up here because you know,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of what's Ben said is I was there.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: What about the TV presentation? Do you like the way
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: it's presented on TV as well? I didn't.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 40:38
  Speaker 11: I like seeing the crowd and seeing everyone have such
• 40:42
  Speaker 11: a good time. It's it's just that sense of belonging
• 40:48
  Speaker 11: kind of So yeah, I like it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: You know, go ahead, Sorry, Yeah, being able to actually
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: see people's face because like whenever you're watching eight show normally,
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: like there's always going to be that area that's blacked out.
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: There's always going to be those people up at the
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: top that you can't see that you know, are there
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: and we can't see what they like, what they're feeling.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: But at the eascat the twenty three hundred arena, there's
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: you can see everybody's face. You could see everybody's reaction,
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: and nobody's blacked out, nobody's you know, washed out, and
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: you could feel that interaction through the screen.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: The one thing that is the downside is the audio,
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: because I guarantee you that however loud it was on
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: television during that FTR match, it was probably a thousand times.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: I couldn't even hear the promo. I couldn't seen I
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: had to watch it on YouTube just to hear it.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to talk a little bit about kind
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: of pulling back from aw a bit here, because just
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: listening to everybody and the feeling and the emotion and
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: the touch and the intimacy. Depending on how old you are,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: you may have started watching wrestling in an era where
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: they still had studio shows and those studio shows would
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: only have it'd be a camera side and you'd have
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: just just like n XT, very similar to how NXT
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: does it. It's a studio show, but it was like Rafters, right,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: and you could go to the local whatever Georgia Championship
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: and like those was your TV. And they would build
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: to the big weekend stadium shows, which the equivalent to
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: pay per views today. So wrestling in and of itself
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: through television has carried that intimacy that a lot of
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: us in this fondness that we have. Even for WCW
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Saturday Night, you'd see them in their studio shows a lot.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: You'd see all the fans there and it was cool.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: And even through AW, in my opinion, their real formative era,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: which was during COVID, that was in essence an intimate
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: studio show. You know, we had some fans there, but
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: it was really a lot of the times just the
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: performers and family and friends around the ring, hooton and hollerance.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: So a lot of aw's history and presentation is that
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: small audience and me coming back to some of these
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: smaller arenas capture some of that fondness. I remember AW
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: kept me saying through the covid Era and I'm getting
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: some of that warm feeling again because if I have
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: an opportunity to see them in a cool place like
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: they were just in Chicago, or the Fox Theater or
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: not the Fox Theater, they may is not Exemple in
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Detroit or the twenty three hundred arena they're at now
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: versus you know, fifteen hundred, two thousand people in a
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: ten thousand Steed stadium where everything's dark, Like, give me
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: something interesting to look at on TV. And now that
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: they're doing this, I'd like them to actually do a
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: five minute segment on the history of the building and
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: why it's cool, interview local stuff. I think that's a
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: real missed opportunity you're visiting, especially with these residencies, Embrace that,
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: embrace the city, Educate our fans and fans of this promotion,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: why you're here and why this is a cool venue
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: and what there is to love about it. I think
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: there's a real opportunity there.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: They should totally do that at Hammerstein when I go.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite one I've done so far, Just so
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: awesome on TV.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: I think that's a really dope idea and ship like
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: they always come back for the homecoming shows A daily Place,
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Daily place, like, that's a goal of mine to catch
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: an a W show where that was home that was
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: home for the Coche.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Lucky Yeah, doing that again.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I want to go too, and then the Daily first.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: The only person that hasn't talked about this, Uh, what
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: is your opinion? Sacked?
• 44:29
  Speaker 9: I think mostly my opinion is I used to watch
• 44:32
  Speaker 9: like like really small indie companies back in the day,
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: like CZW, like the old school CZW, old School of Honor,
• 44:41
  Speaker 9: and like, yeah, I didn't even I didn't even grow
• 44:46
  Speaker 9: grow pro wrestling. It's like I'm like, I kind of
• 44:49
  Speaker 9: like I'm kind of used to seeing like kind of
• 44:52
  Speaker 9: like kind of used to seem like people like in
• 44:55
  Speaker 9: small venues.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the way I look at it is
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: when they announced they were doing a registy in Arley
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Residency Boy in Arlington last year before all In at
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: the Esports Stadium, I was, you know, I was like, Okay,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: I loved it, you know, And I loved that they
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: did the Esports Stadium. I love the Hammerstein, I love
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: the Aragon, you know, I loved all these places. I
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: have to admit, though, I can't wait for them to
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: get out of the twenty three hundred. I just do
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: not like that place. It just does not translate on
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: TV at all. It looks like they're in a parking garage.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it does. It looks cheap. It looks cheap
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: and awful to me. That's just me.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: It's the perfectly okay take. Man.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: You know I can't wait for me to get out
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: and it's nothing to do. And well it may have
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: something to do with that. I hate everything Philadelphia. Oh
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: that's fair.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: That's very fair. I hated phil every second I was
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: in Philadelphia. But you were absolutely right. It does not
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: translate like being there and then watch like watching the
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: Dynamite to figure out where my seats were, and then
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: being there in the arena and like feeling it two
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: completely different things night and day. And it's so like
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: I wish I could capture that feeling in a bottle
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: and give it to you, Kelsey.
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: Because I only live I only live about a couple
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: hours away from the twenty three hundred, and even leading
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: up to that, my daughter had called me and she said, hey,
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: are you gonna go to the any of the shows
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: in Philadelphia? And the way she said it I kind
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: of felt like her my my son in law were
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: gonna like buy me tickets to go see aw at
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: the twenty three hundred, and I was like, you could
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: not give me tickets to go see that show. I
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: will not go to Philadelphia for anything. I went to Philadelphia.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Several years ago to see a I think it was
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: either a Thursday night or a Saturday night football game.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: May have been Monday night. It wasn't on a Sunday.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was a Sunday night. It was a nighttime
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: game at the old Veterans Stadium, and I took a
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: limo down because I refused to have to be standing
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: out there with those ass hats that are Philadelphians. I'm sorry,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I hate you all.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: Riding through it. Lanes are a suggestion, like lanes are
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: a suggestion, and then sometimes there isn't even any indication
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: that there's two lanes, and people are just coming at
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: me and like, oh, I didn't even know, like you know,
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: people just don't. I don't know what's going on out there, man,
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: something's in the water.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I off a joke, you know, just as like you know,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: there was a news report that an atomic bomb fell
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: in the United States and accidentally detonated. How about like,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: oh no, it was horrible. Where was that at Philadelphia?
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Be like, oh okay, no loss. As long as they evacuated,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: just destroyed the city doesn't matter to me. Let's move on,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: because this tell you what Booker t and the Gummy Bears.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even know where to begin
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: with this, he says. He this is the reason why
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: he doesn't watch you know, this is why he doesn't
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: watch any W. Yet he was in w c W
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: and WWE when they were doing some of the dumbest,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: dumbest shit.
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: You know, the first thing I show a person from WWE,
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: all right, is, you know, the birth of Mark Henry's son.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: I don't think that that would give them many reasons
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: to watch WW. I don't think they're taking a comedy spot.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: It's especially as somebody who's never won, who doesn't watch
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: the product, to take a comedy spot out of context
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: and think that take it seriously a face value, like
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: you don't want and you admit you don't watch the product.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna take your opinion seriously when I don't
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: watch the product. When you all start talking about w W,
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: I mute myself because I don't talk about things I
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: don't know.
• 49:21
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, but you know, look, go ahead, I
• 49:26
  Speaker 12: was gonna say what Booker despite, you know, like along
• 49:30
  Speaker 12: with having no sense of humor, what he's missing is
• 49:33
  Speaker 12: the gummy beers that were a punchline to a joke
• 49:36
  Speaker 12: that was set up at the beginning of the show.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: He's getting half the joke, so of course he's confused
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: and doesn't think it's fun though I would think it
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: would be funny anyway, what does he know?
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about I mean, look very it's Booker
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: t the the Spooter Spinner Room, which was a harmless
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: but rather stupid thing, you know, and don't forget the
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: supermarket brawl.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I that this is. This is a reoccurring theme with
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: WWE media because it's part of a framing they're trying
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: to do for AW right now, and that framing is
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: that AW is silly. It doesn't take wrestling silly. It's
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: the joke promotion. They're jokers. They're look at Orange Cassidy,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: look at the Young Bucks. They're ruining everything. It's all
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: fun and games. We're the serious promotion, serious wrestling, and
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: they do dumb stuff on TV now, like comedy belongs
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: in pro wrestling. But that is part of a narrative
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: that they have been pushing on aw for a while.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: I don't really care, but Booker T says it. They've
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: said it on the Bubble Ray podcasting. He does. Conan
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: says in a new show. It's in interviews like this
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: is just this is a thing that they do. And
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Booker T. I find him fun as a character. It's like,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: but whatever, man like to just this point, it's it's
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: a joke that was set up earlier in the show.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: People are allowed to laugh. If you were uncomfortable with
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: people having fun and pro wrestling, that's a that's a
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: new problem, that's not the promotions problem.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well look the Gummy Bear spot took all of
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: what ten seconds from beginning to end? They opened the bad.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: This is a multi week story of humiliation.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: This is like the story exactly ten seconds. The other
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: stuff like giving birth to a hand at the Supermarket
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Brawl and all the kisses on all the asses from
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: you know that Vince McMahon had. These were long segments.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you know, look, but then to
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: be fair, you know, I think it was about a
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: week or so ago. Uh, they asked Mercedes Monette about
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: WWE and she said something to the effect of, I
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: don't watch it. I don't care about it. Well, look,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: she does watch it, she does care about it. She's
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: in character when she's saying this. So you've also got
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: to kind of take things with a grain of salt,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: you know. But let's face it. You know, Booker t
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: is a WWE guy, and he can sleep through all
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: the WWE Sigman said he wants and it's no skin
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: off my back. Anybody else have a comment to make
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: about they gummy Bear spot.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: To be honest, I haven't.
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: I probably haven't seen like NXT in like in a
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: little bit ever since they changing to NXT two point zero.
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: But I remember, like in a comedy of wrestling. I
• 52:57
  Speaker 9: think I remember like when ww TO do to comedy wrestler.
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: I mean, I only see like two people are truth
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: who's like one of the probably the best comedy wrestlers,
• 53:07
  Speaker 9: you know, the man and probably and probably a little
• 53:11
  Speaker 9: bit of a Eugene.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of like Santina Morella. You had to
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: go there too, and I thoroughly enjoyed Santina Morella. You
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: know I'm Italian, so I was just he just cracked
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: me up, just just a mispronounced mispronunciation of the names
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: cracked me up, you know.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: But anyway, champion.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, somebody at the Greatness of Wrestling Subreddit posted
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: who are the best comedy wrestlers right now? And frankly speaking,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: they posted pictures.
• 53:48
  Speaker 10: Of the of the uh of.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: The choices, and there's you know, you had your r
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: truth and some other guys. Tony Storm was the only
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: represent of a w on that entire list. Well, if
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: aw is so freaking funny, then why not have you
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: know more? There's far more people, you know, silly if
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: you think about it, there's far more silly people in
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: w w E than there is an a Wink on
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: the list. But again, you're talking look to be fair,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: you're talking about WWE fans. Okay, WWE fans. There's two
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: types of people in this world on on Reddit, and
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: that's professional wrestling fans and WWE fans. WWE fans don't
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: watch anything but WWE. And that's just a plain and
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: honest truth. Uh, it's not one hundred percent true, but
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: it is majorly true. And you know, so they make
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: comments about AW AW, and they're talking in the super
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: past tense. Do you remember when you know this happened?
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: I was like, and I'm thinking to myself, are you
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: talking about something that happened four years ago? Yeah, you know,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: or five years ago? This doesn't make any sense.
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: And you know, and not to put on like a
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: tinfoil hat or anything, but I like, I know that
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of specifically WW influencers out there, and
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: it feels like their sole purpose is to always make
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: some kind of jab towards AW for whatever, Like it
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: could be a completely unrelated video to AW, and like
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: I'll hear a side comment or you know, and like
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: little things like that repeated over time, you know, it
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: starts to stick with people and it makes people not
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: want to watch other And it's like, you know a
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: little trigger, like you just associate negativity with AW and
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: I just see it consistently. I just block people whose
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: job it is to bash a company. You can talk
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: positively about WW, but you don't have to, you know,
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: do a hook.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: I agree with you because people, you know, like I
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: said on the subreddits that I moderate, anytime you have
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: a a W topic, you know, it's there's somebody gonna
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: make a comment and you're like, just look at their comment,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: and you're like, they don't they don't know what they're
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: talking about. They honestly don't know what they're talking about.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: And they think they're being clever, but they're just being stupid.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: They're outing themselves as idiots. I'm sorry to say it,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: but it's the truth, you know. I mean, it's like
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: me talking about no breastfeeding. I have a breastfed. I
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: don't know what it's like.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: AW doesn't tell stories is the biggest lie I've ever
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: heard in my life.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Ye.
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: People always want to use that and it's not true.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: It's propaganda.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Ye.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: One of the things that if you there is some
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: truth to that comment, but it's not in the way
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: that it may people may think. If you're tuning into
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: a program and you're watching a match and you don't
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: know the history of the competitors or why this match
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: is going on, and it's not recapped, it doesn't seem
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: like there's any story here. And one of the things
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: that AW has really struggled with is the recap package.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: It's not always just for new viewers, it's for week
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: to week two, like I'm going to forget details. They've
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: been like, I need to understand why this thing happened
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: because there's going to be a callback spot later and
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: I want to be reminded of it. You know. AW
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: started to do that, and as they've started to do
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: recaps before big matches of pay per views, they've done
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: recap promotional videos as a way to give a break
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: during TV. Now they're they're including more of those. I'm
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: seeing that narrative that they don't tell stories start to
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: calm down a little bit, and I think a lot
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: of that is because people are reminded, oh, yeah, this
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: is something that's been going on for a few weeks now,
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: and AW did not do that historically also, so.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: People yeah, like they all the time.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of work.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that a w one of
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: the things that AW does and has relied on in
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: the past not so much anymore, is in ring storytelling.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: They tell a story in the ring, and I don't
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: think WWE fans get that because and I will say
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: this because I have watched some of the wwepols recently
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: and in matches. I'll give you an example of a
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: couple of matches that have taken place, and that's Becky
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Lynch versus Lera Valkyria. They did a tremendous amount of
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: in ring storytelling, and I thoroughly they weren't like, oh wow,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: these are five star matches, but I enjoyed the matches
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: because of it, and some of the WWE fans that
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: I've seen posting about it did not like the matches.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Now that's well and fine, but I think that WWE
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: fans don't like the inn ring storytelling. And to your point, Barry,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: I do agree with you that they need to make
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: out of the ring storytelling a lot better, and they
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: have done a lot better, especially in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good growth this year. Room to go, but they're
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: moving in the rad direction for sure.
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: But Jess, Yeah, I was just gonna say, like I
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: think both me and you, Barry, were both like just
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: in awe of how good that one MJF promo was
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: last week. Like I think it was a two three
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: minute promo, and he got so much across, Like just
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: from that little snippet you could tell through the emotion
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: he was conveying like he's miserable, he does not want
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: to be in this position, but he keeps self sabotaging
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 6: himself because he can't help but be an asshole.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, there's two, maybe three performers in pro wrestling
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: that could have done what he did last week on TV.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: And that's frankly, it's because he's an actor now like
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: he acted in his youth. He's always done shows and
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. But that's acting, you know, that's not
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: just pro wrestling, Nick, that's acting. That was a legit
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: thing and I was just so impressed with the delivery
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: from that promo. There are not a lot of people
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: in the business that could have done that.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's move on to our pot p resection.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Our po pre resection is one where we can be
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: up a topic that's just on our mind in the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: world of pro wrestling, and we'll discuss it or not.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: You may just want to vent something, not necessarily discussion,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: but just to get it off your mind. Anybody have
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  Speaker 2: a potpourri that they want to talk about?
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  Speaker 6: Uh yeah, kind of I just heard this today. Kind
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: of sad news, I'm afraid. Kurt Angle was recently on
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: Mister Kennedy Kennedy's podcast, and he mentioned that as much
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: as people would love for him to have one more match.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: He cannot. He cannot because he needs to have both
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: so basically both shoulders are placed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's in really bad shape. And I just felt
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: bad because kurd Angle is just awesome. Show me somebody,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: show me somebody who says they don't like kurd Angle,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: and I'll show you a liar.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Well, he does suck, you know, I mean the fans
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: all say he does.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: He sucks. Kurt Angle was special, he was he was.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoyed Kurt Angle. Yeah, anybody anybody else have one?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: Well, you know the thing with to continue on with that,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: I think kurd Angle and other professional wrestlers they've kind
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: of shifted the culture a little bit. And I've noticed that,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: like nowadays, wrestlers are taking care of themselves a lot
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: better than how they used to, because now they're really
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: thankfully thanks to like the social media era of professional
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: wrestling that we're in right now, Like you don't need
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: to work as grueling of you know, as gruling of
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: a shift as being a wrestler once was, you know,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: and that's why these guys are so banged up and hurting,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: you know. And fortunately, but nowadays, like You're starting to
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: see people taking better care of themselves. You like the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: Missolod situation that saved Juna Kiyama's life, you know, because
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: after that happened, he got himself checked out and realized
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: that he had a next issue. And that's why he's
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: still with us and still fighting, you know, and so active.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: It's always the lesson of what not to do, and
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: it's you know, unfortunate, But I'm happy that he's still
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: open and he's still engages with the professional wrestling scene,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: you know, and it would be a you know, amazing
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: miracle to see him in the radia.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, is there anybody else of the potpourri?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: When go ahead that?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 11: I was gonna say, when is christ Jericho gonna grace
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 11: us with his presence?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Gosh, you know you miss him.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 11: It's been long enough where I'm starting to miss Chris Jericho.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: I am missing not the learning Tree, but I am missing.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm missing Christ Jericho a bit. So it might
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 11: be time to get him back on TV.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Bring back the Judas. Yeah, I got go for it.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: So if you are a fan of birds like I am,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: you may have heard of a product called the Bird Buddy.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: The bird Buddy is basically a webcam on a bird feeder,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: and it's one there's other products just like it with
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: different companies nam but anyways, you can get a solar
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: powered one. It's Wi Fi and you can look up
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: your phone. You can watch all the neighborhood birds that
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: come up and eat. Well. Just recently the bird Buddy
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: too was announced, and if you are a fan of
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: this type of thing, I encourage you to check it out.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: So they improved the solar panel and the battery. Wi
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: Fi reception has been improved. They redid the perch a
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: little bit so you have some better viewing angles. The
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: cameras a little better at knowing when to record because
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: one of the current problems is that records are the late,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: so you don't always get the birds when they fly up.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: So a bunch of new improvements. So if you're a
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: birder like I am, and you know you're like watching
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: the neighborhood birds come up, check out the bird Buddy too.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: I think it's supposed to come out this at all.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: I knew you were for the birds. Thank you for
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: for confirming.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: It not not a sponsored add either.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: Just does anybody else have a fo Ferri.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well we're shilling. I know I already did one,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: but this is just like I am a fan of
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: Wrestle Talk. They've been like my favorite wrestling news outlet
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: for quite a while. And Ollie Davis from Wrestle Talk
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 6: is just put out a new novel. It's always been
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: his dream to be a novelist. He just puts basically
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: a comedy sci fi black mirror ish type thing. It's
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: not even my genre. But I actually bought a copy
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: off Amazon today because I want to. I like him,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: I want you to support I want to support his
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: endeavors because it's my dream to be a novelist.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Too cool time for wrestling. Hat one in the chat
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna read it too, and I'm sorry if
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: I mess this up. He says. This is sort of
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: a random one, but with the NJPW Super Junior Tag
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: League presumably coming up during the KOPW Tour and World
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Tag League following that, who would you all like to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: see aw send over? If they do send anyone for me,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: I would love to see top Flight or Crew or
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: SJTL Workhorsemen or girzeledjung Vets or WTL, and I gotta
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: admit that a couple of those I have no idea
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: who those are because I was reading them and couldn't
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: translate them. Who is s J t L and who
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: is WTL? Oh, I have no idea.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 9: Shane Taylor Promotions.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: That's all.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: No, it's not that one.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Oh that's for Super Trigger Tag League. Okay, okay, Workhorseman, Okay,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: who's WTL World Tag League? Okay? Never mind? Uh yeah,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: I mean that would be interesting. I like one of
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: the strengths right now of a w's getting, you know,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: thank you Mercedes money. I guess for showing that this
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: could be successful is going global, So I'm all for it.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't mind seeing the crew represent ae W. I
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: sort of got a new appreciation for their work watching
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: them in the pre show match for Forbidden Door. I
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: love their style. They swarm like nats. It's great.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: They're very watched. Well, anybody else with the potpourri, I
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: do go ahead.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 9: So I recently watched Deaf before dishonored this last week,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 9: and well, and well, I'm well, I haven't watched an
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 9: R o H pay per view like in forever, and
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 9: but the two matches that I found like really fascinated
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 9: about was woll was MHM Samygavara defending won Samvara versus
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 9: the outrunners for the r H World Tagting Championships. Of
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 9: course Dustin Dustin Rose is injured right now, so his
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 9: new partner is Rush from Loss and Gravin's boss de
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 9: fact de factome.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, so I think it was.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 9: Great to see Sandy as a heel again. He definitely
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 9: needs it.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: And then I think so too.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 9: And the other two matches that carried is well Afena
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 9: in the main event of Fena defending her rh Women's
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 9: World Championship against minas Me shak uh Kala, Yeah, sure, Kyla,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 9: which it was a really fun match, fun storytelling. And
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 9: also also Ifa is going to make it over a
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 9: thousand days as r H Women's World Champion.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: This week. Yeah.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 9: And then for the art and and then the r
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 9: OH World Championship, we had a fun and it was
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 9: it was a fun luchador match between Bandido and Yeah,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 9: that's Aero yet Hannasaro. That was really that was really fundable.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that pay per view. I don't know
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: how you felt, but I thought the pay per view
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: got it to a really slow start. Those those last
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: two matches A Theta versus Mina Shirakawa and Bandito versus
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: Ecta Sarah were masterpieces. They were just flat out masterpieces.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, loved every second of them. And I also
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: have to get a shout out to Paul Walter Houser.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, this guy was gassed after like forty five seconds.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: He was sucking win and but he kept going and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: he they did hold back. Did you guys see that match?
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Have you seen that match?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: Bar?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it was really good.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: It was something to behold I wouldn't call it really good.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: It was a garbage match, but what a garbage match
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: it was. That's yeah, that's what I mean.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: They I just liked them together, so it's it's good
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: for me.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, uh so, I guess I'll wrap it up
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: with my own pote poriri And I hate to go
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: out on a downer, but I've got to. While we're
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: recording this, it is September two, twenty twenty five, and
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: in Japan, however, it is already September third, twenty twenty five,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: which happens to be Hana Kamira's birthday. And I just
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: wanted to you know, say happy birthday to Hanna Kamura
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: and to all of her fans. We unfortunately lost Hannah.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: She took her old own life in twenty twenty and
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: got what we missed in the wrestling world and probably
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: just based on her personality, what we missed in the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: real world just can't be replaced. Bullies. She was bullied
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: as her whole life for being of a mixed race
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Japanese and Indonesian. She was bullied by internet fans, not
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: even for something in wrestling, So it wasn't internet fans
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: that bullieder. I mean internet wrestling community fans a bullieder,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: but a fan of a reality show she was on
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: where just an unfortunate thing that was not her fault
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form, ended up taking her
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: own life. Double her Nothing twenty twenty took place one
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: day after had a camera took her own life and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Excalibur said something. They did a tribute to her, and
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: EXCaliber said one sentence that resonates, and I want everybody
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: to realize this. Maybe if one person just takes a
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: step back and says, maybe I shouldn't type this on
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: the internet, maybe I shouldn't do this.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: But what.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: Ex caliber said was if Hannahkamier's honor, please everyone be
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: nicer to one another. And that's the show for tonight.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow night after Dynamite for all the talks.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: So please join us for our Dynamite review show. It's
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: a quick hitting show. We don't talk for very long,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: but we cram a lot into about twenty to twenty
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: five minutes. We have a lot of fun. I hope
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: you had fun tonight. Guys forty aw fanha podcast team.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: This is Kelson. Good night everybody, and good night and
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: Be easy.