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The Next Round: Shane Beamer’s Hot Seat Heats Up Before South Carolina-Alabama | Hour 1 · The Next Round

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Speaker 2: Uh, For the most part, yeah. Like, bathroom's not a
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Do we know if Lance is pissed in his sink yet?
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Speaker 1: No, we do not. No. You could potentially text him
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Speaker 1: and ask him if you're like.
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Speaker 4: I think Lance has more than one bathroom.
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Speaker 1: By yet, do you mean in his entire life?
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Speaker 2: Oh, no, not in his entire life. He came on
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Speaker 2: the show and said he's pissed in many a sink.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, many a sink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So... Anyway, Godspeed
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Speaker 1: to Lance. We hope to see him tomorrow when it's
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Speaker 1: all said and done. That's a perfect t-shirt at some point.
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Speaker 1: Have you pissed in your sink? That's right. Have you
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Speaker 1: pissed in your sink today? It's that time of year.
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Speaker 1: This happens earlier and earlier now in college football. We're
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Speaker 1: to the point now where there are obvious coaches who
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Speaker 1: are on tremendous hot seats and ones that are not
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Speaker 1: Probably going to survive. And now we're going into week four.
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Speaker 1: There's still 75% of the season left. And they've got
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Speaker 1: to do a majority of 75% of news conferences and
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Speaker 1: get asked about this every week. You know what I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about? It's got to be. You probably dread this
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Speaker 1: day rolling around. And let me tell you. They dread
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Speaker 1: it probably even the best of times. They dread this.
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Speaker 1: As a guy who's covered coaches that you know are
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Speaker 1: going to get fired, it's no fun for the media either.
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Speaker 1: But there are some guys who enjoy it. Yeah. I
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Speaker 1: will say this for the media, and I'm not saying
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Speaker 1: this for me. I don't really care. But I think
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Speaker 1: there are some media guys that once they know, if
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Speaker 1: they don't like the coach, and this happens, where back
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Speaker 1: in the day it was primarily either the over-the-top radio
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Speaker 1: guy or the bombastic newspaper columnist. That's right. Before Feinbaum
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Speaker 1: became both of those in one person. But Feinbaum was
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Speaker 1: the first of my... my life because I grew up
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Speaker 1: in Alabama and with a gentile southern media and then
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden here comes Feinbaum down to write
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Speaker 1: a column every week in the Post Herald and I
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Speaker 1: was like well what is this we brought in a
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Speaker 1: damn Yankee to write this mean stuff all the time
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Speaker 1: turns out he's from Memphis not a Yankee at all
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Speaker 1: but what happens is a lot of times you'll get
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Speaker 1: members of the media that once they sense that the
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Speaker 1: tide has turned against the coach, and they don't like
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Speaker 1: the coach, it's open season. Like now I can really
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Speaker 1: go after him. I'm not going to have to deal
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Speaker 1: with all the blowback from the fans. Or the boosters,
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Speaker 1: more importantly. Or the boosters. They're behind me now. So
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Speaker 1: that's when it really gets toxic is when you've got
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Speaker 1: a coach that nobody likes or a large portion of
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Speaker 1: the media dislike him. When it turns like that, that's
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Speaker 1: when they'll start going after him. And I get the
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Speaker 1: feel this may have happened. And sometimes it's not dislike.
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Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of coaches that I knew were
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Speaker 1: getting fired, eventually I actually liked them. I really loved
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Speaker 1: my time with Mike Shula. Loved my time. I did
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Speaker 1: the Mike Shula show. Yeah, nobody ended up disliking Shula. No,
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Speaker 1: but it was hard at the end because you knew
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Speaker 1: it was the end. And I really liked Mike Shula.
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Speaker 1: Near the end of Tommy Tuberville. Oh, I always liked Tommy.
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Speaker 1: I love Tommy. Love Tommy. I mean, there really hasn't
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Speaker 1: been a coach, like Auburn fans don't like Harsin, but
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Speaker 1: Brian Harsin was very good to us. And I have
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Speaker 1: no ill will towards Brian Harsin. There's nothing I'm like, God,
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Speaker 1: I couldn't stand that guy. Hugh, we knew Hugh before
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Speaker 1: he took the Auburn job. That's right. And again, I'm
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Speaker 1: just going to say Hugh was always good to us.
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Speaker 1: His act got old to me once. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: used to watch it at Ole Miss. It was like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's interesting. But then when you had to live it
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Speaker 1: every day, it kind of got old. So we're getting
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Speaker 1: to a couple of coaches here. One of them is
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Speaker 1: Mike Loxley, who I really enjoyed talking to when he
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Speaker 1: was in Tuscaloosa on Nick Saban's staff. Seemed like a
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Speaker 1: really nice guy, but I don't know him socially or personally.
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Speaker 1: Taylor Lyons is a sports writer for the Baltimore Sun.
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Speaker 1: He'll be the guy asking the question here. And has
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Speaker 1: since followed up that there's a new policy at Maryland.
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Speaker 1: You don't get to do follow-up questions. They actually take
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Speaker 1: the microphone away from you as you try to do
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Speaker 1: a follow-up question. And listen, Taylor's doing her job, and
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Speaker 1: these are fair questions, but being a Southerner, I never
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Speaker 1: really attacked it with this much bite in my questions.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I never attacked it with this much bite
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Speaker 1: in the question. This is Maryland coach Mike Loxley on
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Speaker 1: the other end of a Baltimore Sun question yesterday.
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Speaker 5: You said it after the game Saturday. You said it
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Speaker 5: several times after losses over the years that you're going
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Speaker 5: to learn from it. You're going to get things fixed, corrected.
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Speaker 5: Yet losses like Saturday continue to happen where you get outcoached,
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Speaker 5: you get outplayed, and then you come out afterward and
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Speaker 5: you make those same promises. Do you feel like you
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Speaker 5: deserved more chances to keep saying you're going to learn
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Speaker 5: from losses when I think everybody at this point expects
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Speaker 5: more from you.
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Speaker 6: So go back and break your question down because you
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Speaker 6: seem like you went on. What are you asking me?
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Speaker 1: Let's get to that.
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Speaker 5: After losses like Saturday, you keep saying that you're going
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Speaker 5: to learn from them. Got it.
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Speaker 6: Okay, I understand that. So it goes back to what
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Speaker 6: my opening statement was, was that I understand why you
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Speaker 6: asked the question, why you say those things. I understand
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Speaker 6: why the fans are frustrated. They've earned the right. for
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Speaker 6: us to play better than we have. It won't get
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Speaker 6: fixed here at the podium. It gets fixed across the
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Speaker 6: street with the work we do. We continue to do
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Speaker 6: the work. We continue to improve. We'll continue to do
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Speaker 6: the things we have to do to earn their trust back.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and Loxley handled it well. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, if I don't know if the words get
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Speaker 1: to the point you're asking me. Yeah, that's right. Just
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Speaker 1: let's let's cut to the chase of the hard question.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead and ask the hard question. I've set it up.
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Speaker 1: Just ask the hard question and I'm going to answer
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Speaker 1: and he answered and he didn't blow up at a guy.
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Speaker 1: If Lexley blows up right there, it's national news. It's
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Speaker 1: a bad look for him. You know, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if it's what the reporter wanted. That guy sounds far
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Speaker 1: from bombastic, honestly, the way he asked the question. But,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Loxley handled it well. Now, with
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Speaker 1: that said, Loxley is saying stuff no fans want to hear.
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Speaker 1: No fan at this point. I'll have to pull up
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Speaker 1: Loxley's record. It's bad, though. It's not good. I mean,
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Speaker 1: eventually your time runs out. Yeah, his time has. I
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Speaker 1: think everybody knows. He only came back last year, Jim,
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Speaker 1: because he couldn't afford to buy him out. And they
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Speaker 1: were like, let's give him one more year. But they
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Speaker 1: also gave him some NIL money. That's what they said, yeah.
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Speaker 1: So the time has moved on. I mean, he's 39-50
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Speaker 1: at Maryland, 17-48 in the Big Ten. I don't expect
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Speaker 1: a lot from Maryland. I don't, but I expect more
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Speaker 1: than that. But I know Maryland people expect something from
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Speaker 1: Maryland more than that. I mean, 17-48 in the Big
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Speaker 1: Ten is really, really bad. And they've renamed their stadium
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Speaker 1: The Shell, so that's good. I want to get to
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Speaker 1: a guy in the SEC, though. Shane Beamer, who comes
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Speaker 1: to Tuscaloosa this week. And I always warn people. I
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Speaker 1: always warn people, and he's going to bring this up,
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Speaker 1: there's 75% of the season left. I mean, you can,
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Speaker 1: and I've seen it happen on this show, on this
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Speaker 1: show in 17 years, that you can start throwing dirt
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Speaker 1: on somebody and they do the old Undertaker. They come
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Speaker 1: out of nowhere. That's right. And they come back and
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Speaker 1: save their job. And I've seen teams that's been dead, buried.
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Speaker 1: They had us buried and they come back and win
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Speaker 1: a national championship under Nick Saban. So you can make
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Speaker 1: assumptions early on. But it doesn't look good for Shane
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Speaker 1: Beamer right now. And he gets a little worked up
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Speaker 1: in his trip before coming to Tuscaloosa News Conference. Here's
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Speaker 1: Shane Beamer yesterday. Got to respond. I mean, we've got
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Speaker 1: a loss.
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Speaker 7: Texas A & M has a loss in the SEC.
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Speaker 7: I don't think they're just packing up their stuff and
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Speaker 7: calling it a season. LSU's got a loss in the SEC.
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Speaker 7: Auburn's got a loss in the SEC. I think there's
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Speaker 7: five teams that haven't played a game in the SEC, Mingo.
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Speaker 7: So we have a loss. So that's the message is
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Speaker 7: we lost a football game. And now we've got nine left.
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Speaker 1: We've moved on.
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Speaker 7: I mean, in this building, like, we've moved on. Saturday sucked.
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Speaker 7: We're not going to sit around and feel sorry for ourselves. Like,
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Speaker 7: that's life, guys.
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Speaker 1: Stuff happens. And we've moved on. And everybody else can
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Speaker 1: talk about what does that look like.
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Speaker 7: And how are the comparisons to 26 and 25 and
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Speaker 7: 24 and what are you telling your team. I ain't
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Speaker 7: got to tell my team anything.
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Speaker 1: And guess what?
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Speaker 7: If it's called sports, they may play better and coach
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Speaker 7: better than us Saturday night. And they may win the
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Speaker 7: football game. And we'll come back in here on Sunday
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Speaker 7: and get right back to work again because that's what
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Speaker 7: life in the SEC is. I mean, Alabama, I just
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Speaker 7: talked about them last year. Notre Dame lost to Northern
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Speaker 7: Illinois two years ago. They didn't shut down the program
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Speaker 7: and blow everything up. They responded and they went and
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Speaker 7: played for the national championship game in the same season.
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Speaker 1: So that's how, that's easy. That's the message. it seems
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Speaker 1: like he has to do that press conference a lot, though,
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Speaker 1: doesn't it? It does. I mean, I feel like I
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Speaker 1: know Scott is telling us this was from yesterday, and
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I distrust Scott that this is from yesterday.
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Speaker 1: But it could have been from last year. is distrust
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Speaker 1: a word but Scott I.
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Speaker 8: Mean I can confirm this was yesterday but Scott can you.
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Speaker 2: I can confirm distrust is indeed a word.
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Speaker 1: Thank you Tyler Scott could you also confirm that you
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Speaker 1: probably have played this same clip for us 15 times.
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Speaker 3: Some variation of it, yes.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he says this a lot. He's having to
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Speaker 1: do this a lot. I don't know if South Carolina
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Speaker 1: fans are... I mean, they're passionate fans. You'll grant that, right?
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Speaker 1: They pack that stadium out a lot for bad football products.
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Speaker 1: I mean, their crowd was almost as good as the
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Speaker 1: Florida-Atlantic-Florida game this past weekend. More on that later. But
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Speaker 1: I feel like Shane Beamer has to defend himself an
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Speaker 1: awful lot. And I don't know if maybe their media
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Speaker 1: is saltier than we give credit for in Columbia, South Carolina.
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Speaker 1: Gentile man. We're all sipping on bourbon. We're Southern gentlemen.
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Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is for him, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't know that he can save his job at
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Speaker 1: Bryant-Denny Stadium. I don't know if he can lose his
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Speaker 1: job at Bryant-Denny Stadium. Well, win over Alabama doesn't carry the... Oh, no, don't.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute. You're going to have to back this
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Speaker 1: statement up.
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Speaker 7: Go ahead.
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Speaker 1: The win over Alabama doesn't carry the same crescendo moment
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Speaker 1: in your career that it did when it was Nick
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Speaker 1: Saban on the other sidelines, but... Still a top 10
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Speaker 1: road win. But if you let me finish my thought, Brown. Sorry, Jim.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead. But a win over Alabama still resonates with
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Speaker 1: your fans, and it is a top 10 road win.
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Speaker 1: So this would be a huge win for him this weekend.
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Speaker 1: It would be. Is it a job saver? It used
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Speaker 1: to be. Probably still could be for him.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you're to that
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Speaker 1: point where, like... Like, Saturday was a massive moment for Stein,
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Speaker 1: for Will Stein. It was pretty big for Jeff Lebbe
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Speaker 1: against that guy, too. Oh, it was, yeah. No, you're
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Speaker 1: absolutely right, for both those guys. You don't even have
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Speaker 1: to leave the stadium. Jeff Lebbe was a big one
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Speaker 1: for him. Now, Lebbe's problem is he was 3-0 last year, too, so...
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Speaker 1: He didn't have a win like this, but he was
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Speaker 1: 3-0 last year. If you're Levy, you've got to build
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Speaker 1: on the 3-0 now. Yeah, but he's gone to a
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Speaker 1: Big Ten stadium. Levy has. Not against Alcorn State. Feels different.
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Speaker 1: And he's won an SEC road game. His second. No, no, no.
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Speaker 1: It feels totally different. I'm with you. It feels like
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Speaker 1: a different 3-0 for him right now. But if he
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Speaker 1: doesn't build on it, you'll grant me that they'll be
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Speaker 1: right back where we started this year with him. But
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Speaker 1: for Beamer... Like, I don't think you're to the— well, I
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Speaker 1: was going to say it was a big moment for
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Speaker 1: Stein because it was early on, and now Kentucky fans
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Speaker 1: are like, all right, we're not the team that melted
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Speaker 1: down to Alabama in the second half. This is not us.
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Speaker 1: I believe what this guy's saying. That's right. We can
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Speaker 1: go on the road and win. But if Beamer goes
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Speaker 1: on the road and wins this game, they'll be like—
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Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I've seen so much football out
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Speaker 1: of this guy. I can't get excited and change my
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Speaker 1: whole feeling on one win. And the truth is, Jim,
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Speaker 1: win or lose in this game, the remaining schedule for
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Speaker 1: him is very daunting. Like it is with every SEC team.
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Speaker 1: That's what I was about to say. This is where
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Speaker 1: we say, well, even if he beats Alabama, their schedule's tough.
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Speaker 1: But it's true. But you want to be redundant. That's
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Speaker 1: what we say everywhere. When we talk about everybody in
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Speaker 1: the SEC, it is tough for everybody. Which is why
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Speaker 1: you can't make this a make or break for Beamer.
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Speaker 1: It may be a break. You can't make it a
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Speaker 1: make for Beamer because even with this win, like if
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Speaker 1: they went, just listen to this group and tell me
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Speaker 1: if they go 500 in this group, okay? Kentucky at home,
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Speaker 1: at Florida, Tennessee at home, at Oklahoma, Texas A &
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Speaker 1: M at home, at Arkansas, Georgia at home, at Clemson. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: other than Arkansas. There's no guarantee. There are no guarantees,
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Speaker 1: and that's my point. Even if he goes. 500 and
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Speaker 1: you get to the end of the year and you're like,
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Speaker 1: are we where we want to be? I know we
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Speaker 1: beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa. That was a great win. I
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Speaker 1: got excited about it. But are we where we want
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Speaker 1: to be as a program? Yeah, basically they're 0-1 in
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Speaker 1: their regular season after two preseason games. Exactly. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's by NFL standards. But look how tough the rest
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Speaker 1: of the schedule is. Other than Arkansas, there's no guaranteed win,
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Speaker 1: and that doesn't get you a bowl game, and that
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Speaker 1: doesn't save your job.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: That, to Shane Beamer's words, is life in the SEC.
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Speaker 1: Which I guess if they beat Alabama and then go
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Speaker 1: 400 the rest of the way, they're 7-5. So maybe
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Speaker 1: they look at that and they're okay with it. But
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that South Carolina fans will
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Speaker 1: look at 7-5 with a win in Tuscaloosa and be like,
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Speaker 1: let's keep the guy. I think that would be an
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Speaker 1: over their win total, their expectation this year. I think
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Speaker 1: it would be an over. I think they were around
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Speaker 1: six and a half. You're in a tough spot, though,
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Speaker 1: when you've had this coach this long and you have
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Speaker 1: to take seven and five as a fan base and say, OK,
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Speaker 1: we're good. We're seven and five. But boy, we won
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Speaker 1: in Tuscaloosa. I've used this phrase. I've used this phrase
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Speaker 1: with you. You and I have been together 20 years now.
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Speaker 1: I've used the theory of large numbers with you many,
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Speaker 1: many times. And in the SEC, there were 16 teams
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Speaker 1: and you were playing nine games. there are going to
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Speaker 1: be really good football teams that are 7-5. There are.
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Speaker 1: But you know who never pays attention to the theory
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Speaker 1: of large numbers are fans. That's right. So you can
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Speaker 1: say it all you want. I mean, I just don't
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Speaker 1: know that this is make or break anymore just because
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Speaker 1: of the way the SEC is. But at some point,
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Speaker 1: Beamer has got to, I guess, show. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what they want out of him, Jim. I really don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what South Carolina fans want out of Beamer.
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Speaker 1: I think they loved him the year they almost made
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. They want Steve Spurrier. They want Steve Spurrier years.
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Speaker 1: That was two trips in a very weak SEC East,
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Speaker 1: two trips to the SEC Championship. I think I've seen
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Speaker 1: enough of this guy to say you're not going to
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Speaker 1: get that out of him. I like him. I like me.
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Speaker 7: Me too.
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Speaker 1: I like him. I like Loxley. There's two guys I like.
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Speaker 1: I know, but I don't know what Maryland wants out
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Speaker 1: of Loxley. I mean, you're probably... Whatever you want out
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Speaker 1: of Loxley, you're never going to get out of anybody, probably,
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Speaker 1: unless you convince Nick Saban to come out of retirement.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what South Carolina fans want out of
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Speaker 1: Shane Beamer. If it is the Spurrier years, I would
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Speaker 1: tell you I don't think that guy's going to get
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Speaker 1: you there. Let me see my list. I also don't
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Speaker 1: know if that's realistic. I got 13 cuts. We played
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Speaker 1: two of them. I'm seeing if there's any more. Any
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Speaker 1: more hot seat coaches? Oh. Give me cut 11. Oh,
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Speaker 1: we got another hot seat.
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Speaker 7: Coach, huh?
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's not on a hot seat because they
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Speaker 1: give him a contract every other year. I know. This
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Speaker 1: is amazing. Brent Venables, Oklahoma. God, do they have an
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Speaker 1: easy game this week, Forrester? Where does Oklahoma play?
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Speaker 3: They do not. They got a little bit of a
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Speaker 3: test over in Athens.
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Speaker 1: Number two Georgia on the road.
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Speaker 7: Oh, no.
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Speaker 1: Oh, for Oklahoma. Brent Venables. Scratchy voice. He's going to
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Speaker 1: have a scratchy voice. He is because he's yelled his
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Speaker 1: ass off in practice, probably at the offense.
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Speaker 3: He's got that bandit voice.
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Speaker 1: Bandit has to drink water to keep it. He gets
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Speaker 1: asked about the offensive problems, and here's Brent Venables, not
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Speaker 1: in a hot seat, but he's hot.
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Speaker 9: I don't want to be the offensive coordinator. I want
16:15
Speaker 9: the offensive staff to come up with a great game
16:17
Speaker 9: plan and have great balance, to be physical, take care
16:20
Speaker 9: of the ball, run the football, create explosive plays, have
16:23
Speaker 9: great balance, attack people's weaknesses, all of those types of things.
16:28
Speaker 9: And I want them to play with more confidence and
16:31
Speaker 9: more continuity and being a better rhythm. And so we're
16:35
Speaker 9: working hard and diligent at doing that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to be the offensive coordinator, but
16:39
Speaker 1: I want them to do this, this, this, and this.
16:42
Speaker 1: I want to tell them what to do. I mean,
16:44
Speaker 1: he's the head coach. That's his job. Have we ever
16:46
Speaker 1: seen an offensive coordinator fired mid-season? That sounds like— I mean,
16:51
Speaker 1: I didn't hear the question. I didn't hear the rest
16:52
Speaker 1: of the news conference. Pete Golding got elevated to defensive
16:55
Speaker 1: coordinator one year privately, right? Privately, yeah. I mean, a
16:59
Speaker 1: lot of people think— Tosh LaPois last year in Tuscaloosa and Al—
17:03
Speaker 1: I won't remember what specific year that was. I want
17:06
Speaker 1: to say 18. I want to say 18 as well.
17:08
Speaker 1: That Pete Golding had to take over the play calling there.
17:12
Speaker 1: Maybe it was 19. Whenever it was, Pete Golding had
17:14
Speaker 1: to take over the defensive play calling there because LaPoi
17:16
Speaker 1: was out of his depth. I wonder if we're at
17:19
Speaker 1: that point. in Norman, Oklahoma. I mean, that sounded like
17:24
Speaker 1: frustration with Ben Arbuckle, right? I didn't hear the whole...
17:27
Speaker 1: Play it again. Hit start it one more time for
17:29
Speaker 1: me here. This is Brent Venables, I assume, yesterday.
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Speaker 9: I don't want to be the offensive coordinator. I want
17:35
Speaker 9: the offensive staff to come up with a great game
17:36
Speaker 9: plan and have great balance, to be physical, take care
17:39
Speaker 9: of the ball, run the football, create explosive plays, have
17:42
Speaker 9: great balance, attack people's weaknesses, all of those types of things.
17:47
Speaker 9: And I want them to play with you know, more
17:49
Speaker 9: confidence and more continuity and being a better rhythm. And
17:54
Speaker 9: so we're working hard and diligent doing that.
17:56
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, if you're watching in Oklahoma or you're
17:59
Speaker 1: an Oklahoma fan, here's what I have a problem with that.
18:03
Speaker 1: And I hate to go back to Nick Saban all
18:04
Speaker 1: the time, but I had a chance to spend some
18:06
Speaker 1: time around him. Nick Saban was a defensive minded coach,
18:10
Speaker 1: former defensive coordinator. He was as much a part of
18:14
Speaker 1: the offensive game plan as he was the defensive game
18:17
Speaker 1: plan every week as a head coach. He was also
18:20
Speaker 1: a part of the special teams plans. He broke down
18:22
Speaker 1: film on the offense and the defense and special teams.
18:25
Speaker 1: He had meetings every day to come up with the
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Speaker 1: plans with the offensive, defensive staff. He's like, I don't
18:31
Speaker 1: want to be the offensive coordinator. I want them to
18:33
Speaker 1: come up with a game plan, blah, blah, blah. That's
18:35
Speaker 1: not your job, bro. I know you're the defensive coordinator too,
18:38
Speaker 1: but you're also the head coach. You need to be
18:39
Speaker 1: in those offensive meetings, helping them come up with the
18:41
Speaker 1: plan that you want. You need to be in the
18:43
Speaker 1: special teams meeting, helping them come up with the plans
18:46
Speaker 1: that you want. And you're the defensive coordinator. You need
18:48
Speaker 1: to be doing that as well. That's part of being
18:50
Speaker 1: the head coach. That's why you make all the money.
18:52
Speaker 1: So I like Brent Venables too, but It's not all
18:56
Speaker 1: on the offensive coordinator. You need to be in there, too,
19:00
Speaker 1: to making sure you're getting the offensive game plan you want.
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Speaker 4: I was going to say, Ryan, worth noting, Jim just asked,
19:08
Speaker 4: has there ever been firings midseason? Brent Venables fired his
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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator in 2024, first year in the league, Seth Luttrell,
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Speaker 4: seven games into the season.
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Speaker 1: Seven games in. We're week four. So right now people
19:22
Speaker 1: are asking– Arbuckle, hey, what do you want for dinner?
19:27
Speaker 1: You can have anything. You want lobster? You can have lobster.
19:29
Speaker 1: Glass meal. Anything you want. You'd say Arbuckle needs to
19:32
Speaker 1: sleep with one eye open? Like the meal they give
19:34
Speaker 1: you before they send you off to war. Here's the pastor.
19:38
Speaker 1: He's going to walk you down to Brent Venables.
19:40
Speaker 3: Wow.
19:41
Speaker 1: Brent Venables' office.
19:42
Speaker 4: But this is who Brent Venables replaced Seth Luttrell with,
19:44
Speaker 4: was Ben Arbuckle. So he's now maybe struck out two
19:47
Speaker 4: times in a row.
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Speaker 1: So maybe Brent Venables. can't have good offense, is what
19:51
Speaker 1: you're telling me, Brooks. Is that what we're getting at here,
19:52
Speaker 1: that Brent Venables can't have good offense? Here is a
19:55
Speaker 1: question that comes from Stuart Mandel's mailbag at The Athletic.
20:01
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing somebody opening. Ben Arbuckle's office door. There's
20:05
Speaker 1: a pastor. The other guy with the white collar standing there.
20:09
Speaker 1: Walking him down to the office. I was doing the
20:12
Speaker 1: last meal thing, too. I got your joke. Stuart Mandel, mailbag.
20:18
Speaker 1: The other assistant coaches see the power. We've got a
20:24
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, guys. Who's calling plays this week? Stuart Mandel, mailbag.
20:29
Speaker 1: Ask this question. Which is the better team? Lincoln Riley,
20:34
Speaker 1: head coach, Brent Venables, defensive coordinator, or Brent Venables, head coach,
20:38
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, offensive coordinator? Which is the better team? I'll
20:43
Speaker 1: go around the table. Brooks, you first. Who's the better team?
20:46
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, head coach, Brent Venables, defensive coordinator, or Brent Venables,
20:51
Speaker 1: head coach, Lincoln Riley, offensive coordinator?
20:55
Speaker 4: I lean Lincoln Riley head coach Brent Venables defensive coordinator.
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Speaker 1: Here's why I can't go there, Brooks, because Lincoln Riley
21:01
Speaker 1: has brought in all these good defensive coordinators and none
21:04
Speaker 1: of them work. And I think right now we question
21:07
Speaker 1: whether Gary Patterson is going to work, right? Right now, yeah.
21:10
Speaker 1: Based on early returns. They are early returns.
21:12
Speaker 4: Based off early returns on Brent Venables as the head coach,
21:15
Speaker 4: he's brought in all these offensive coordinators.
21:17
Speaker 1: This is why this is such a tough question. Hats
21:21
Speaker 1: off to whoever sent that into Stewart's mailbag. Who would
21:24
Speaker 1: you go with, Forrester?
21:25
Speaker 3: I don't think this is that tough.
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Speaker 8: I think Lincoln's got to be the head coach with
21:30
Speaker 8: Venables as the DC.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's why I would go with Scott here. Did
21:34
Speaker 1: you just flip? No, I'm saying neither one of them
21:38
Speaker 1: are appealing. But I'm going to go with Scott. Oh,
21:40
Speaker 1: you said it too, Lincoln, with Brent. Here's why. Because
21:43
Speaker 1: at least Lincoln can score some points and win a
21:47
Speaker 1: track meet.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
21:49
Speaker 1: Like, even if, I mean, it's been proven with Brent Venables,
21:52
Speaker 1: like at Michigan, you keep it close, your quarterback could
21:55
Speaker 1: still screw it up. Like, I mean, he had kept
21:57
Speaker 1: that game. His defense had kept them in that game.
22:00
Speaker 1: All they had to do, Jim, is find a way
22:02
Speaker 1: to make a drive or hit a big play. And
22:03
Speaker 1: what's his quarterback do? He goes out and throws a
22:05
Speaker 1: terrible interception. Defender undercuts the pass. And now Michigan gets
22:08
Speaker 1: cheap points and you can't win the game. I mean,
22:12
Speaker 1: at least Lincoln Riley could win you a track meet.
22:15
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Speaker 1: Camario Taylor, Super Camario. Darian Mensah, the ball has barely
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Speaker 1: the football.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
24:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, and because all Alabama Devils run, I mean, they're
24:05
Speaker 1: 395 carries. I don't think Jaden Ball's going to get there,
24:07
Speaker 1: but Jaden Ball's been terrific already this season. Ironically, I've
24:11
Speaker 1: got the same four. Different order. Trinidad first. I, too,
24:14
Speaker 1: went first name. Mensah, last name, second. Ball, I put
24:18
Speaker 1: him third. And Camario, I went first name as well there.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why you went Taylor and not Camario,
24:24
Speaker 1: the first name. I don't know. Trinidad, Mensah, Baugh, and
24:27
Speaker 1: Camario for me. Well, that's crazy we've got the same four.
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Speaker 1: This is rising. I thought Baugh was going to be
24:32
Speaker 1: the off-the-beaten-path one for me. Yeah, I mean, me too.
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Speaker 1: I thought for sure you'd have Jeremiah Smith in there,
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Speaker 1: who I had to consider. I went with Baugh, really,
24:40
Speaker 1: instead of Jeremiah Smith. Yep. I mean, you could go
24:44
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Speaker 1: You know what he says?
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Speaker 6: What?
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Speaker 1: You know what he tells his offensive coordinator? Work the cut.
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Speaker 8: What?
24:52
Speaker 1: Work the cut. He does say that a lot. Work
24:54
Speaker 1: the cut. And you know what working the cut is?
24:56
Speaker 1: What's that? If you don't know what to call, hand
24:58
Speaker 1: it off to Ball. Let's see if this guy can
24:59
Speaker 1: get three yards. That's what Summerall told him. He's like...
25:02
Speaker 1: If you're in doubt on what to do, hand it
25:04
Speaker 1: off to Bob. Buster Faulkner was in doubt. There's the headline.
25:09
Speaker 1: I thought that guy invented offense. So both of these
25:11
Speaker 1: guys rising with a bullet. Trinidad got to go on
25:15
Speaker 1: the road this week. Mensah's eventually going to play somebody good.
25:18
Speaker 1: It's a good four right there. No arch. No Jeremiah Smith. Right. Interesting.
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25:38
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25:43
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25:46
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25:49
Speaker 1: What did you call him that one time? And now
25:50
Speaker 1: it's stuck in your head.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
25:52
Speaker 1: I think I called him went throw or something. Oh,
25:55
Speaker 1: there was something else. I can't remember. Anyway, go ahead.
25:57
Speaker 1: On their show this morning, they had the five worst
26:02
Speaker 1: vibes in college football. Bad vibe programs right now. Bad
26:05
Speaker 1: vibe programs. So like we like to do sometimes. That's right.
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Speaker 1: Do your own list. We like to take somebody else's list.
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Speaker 1: And cut it to shreds. We'll do it with our
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Speaker 1: Hard to remember. Texas is number one in the country,
26:26
Speaker 1: by the way. Ole Miss got a lot of love.
26:29
Speaker 1: Georgia's really good. There's other teams that are trending up
26:33
Speaker 1: right now. But Texas sitting there after a lull game
26:36
Speaker 1: this past week coming off the Ohio State win is
26:39
Speaker 1: number one in the country. And they take that heavy,
26:42
Speaker 1: heavy cross of being number one on their back in
26:46
Speaker 1: the Knoxville, Tennessee this weekend. And they go there with
26:49
Speaker 1: a quarterback that's catching criticism. Here is Arch Manning, not
26:54
Speaker 1: on our Heisman list, Arch Manning criticism discussion from Steve Sarkeesian.
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Speaker 10: I think at the end of the day, you're the
27:03
Speaker 10: quarterback at Texas. Your last name's Manning. Yeah. Regardless of
27:09
Speaker 10: what you do, you're going to get critiqued. You're going
27:11
Speaker 10: to get criticized. I'm the head coach at Texas. Regardless
27:15
Speaker 10: of what I do, I'm going to get critiqued. I'm
27:17
Speaker 10: going to get criticized. Who really gives a crap? Just
27:20
Speaker 10: go play, man.
27:21
Speaker 1: Go be you.
27:21
Speaker 10: You can't try to be something you're not. I want
27:24
Speaker 10: him to be him, and I want him to be
27:26
Speaker 10: him every Saturday. I want him to be him every series.
27:29
Speaker 10: Who he is is an engaging leader. Who he is
27:32
Speaker 10: is a guy that picks other people up. Who he
27:34
Speaker 10: is is a guy that... doesn't play the position like
27:38
Speaker 10: a robot. He uses his legs to his advantage, but
27:41
Speaker 10: he doesn't use his legs all of the time. And
27:43
Speaker 10: we don't call design runs for him all the time,
27:46
Speaker 10: but I want him to be Arch Manning. I don't
27:48
Speaker 10: want him to be Archie. I don't want him to
27:49
Speaker 10: be Peyton. I don't want him to be Eli. I
27:52
Speaker 10: don't want him to be Colt McCoy.
27:53
Speaker 1: I don't want him to be Vince Young.
27:54
Speaker 10: I want him to be Arch Manning. And Arch Manning
27:56
Speaker 10: is plenty good enough for us to put us in
27:58
Speaker 10: position to win.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the way he answered that.
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Speaker 4: I agree.
28:02
Speaker 1: What you what you don't see on my sheet of
28:04
Speaker 1: 13 cuts today is an Arch Manning cut. Since the A.I. incident,
28:10
Speaker 1: Forrester would agree with me here. Arch Manning has been
28:13
Speaker 1: short answered and as vanilla as you possibly could be
28:16
Speaker 1: in his interviews.
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Speaker 8: Not only that, Texas didn't even put it up that.
28:22
Speaker 8: They made him available, but you had to be there
28:24
Speaker 8: to get it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Arch wasn't great before, though, was he, Scott? No.
28:28
Speaker 1: But he was coming out of his shell. He was
28:31
Speaker 1: starting to show a little bit more personality.
28:33
Speaker 3: It depends on what he got asked.
28:34
Speaker 8: If you asked him about a teammate, he would give
28:38
Speaker 8: good answers. If you asked him anything about his own
28:42
Speaker 8: game or anything like that.
28:44
Speaker 1: His new PR plan now is, I'm not going to
28:47
Speaker 1: give you guys anything. That's right. I'll just say nothing.
28:50
Speaker 1: I'm going to play quarterback. That's right. There's a First Amendment.
28:55
Speaker 1: I'm entitled to free speech, and I'm entitled also not
28:58
Speaker 1: to give anything. I'm going to take the fifth. I'm
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Speaker 1: Sounds like a new tea party there when the tea
30:09
Speaker 1: that launched a movement. That's right. Just like the Boston
30:12
Speaker 1: Tea Party. People were throwing t-shirts in the water. And
30:14
Speaker 1: Clay is just learning about me about this. I always have...
30:18
Speaker 1: an opinion about other people's work. That's right. Can you
30:20
Speaker 1: give me the New York Balls logo again that's up
30:23
Speaker 1: there or the Nashville Balls logo that's back up there?
30:25
Speaker 1: You said New York because it's a little Knicks looking. Yeah,
30:28
Speaker 1: it's the Nashville skyline back there. My problem with that
30:32
Speaker 1: logo is the ball sack is ripped. Yeah, I wondered why.
30:35
Speaker 1: That seems to be painful. Yeah, I wondered why. That
30:37
Speaker 1: would hurt. Yeah, the netting is ripped to where I
30:39
Speaker 1: can see both balls sitting inside of that. You would
30:42
Speaker 1: not want that to happen in real life.
30:45
Speaker 2: One sits higher than the other as well.
30:48
Speaker 1: That is actually biologically correct. Interesting. Yeah. Feel free next
30:53
Speaker 1: commercial break to go check it out.
30:55
Speaker 2: There's not enough time to go check.
30:57
Speaker 1: Bathroom on either side.
30:58
Speaker 2: We only have two minutes in between segments and it's
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Speaker 2: a minute each way.
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Speaker 1: You can step into the ball check room right to
31:03
Speaker 1: your left there. I didn't know we had a ball
31:05
Speaker 1: check room. Well, it's a coat check room. You'll still
31:07
Speaker 1: get a ticket. All right. I haven't even seen this
31:10
Speaker 1: list yet. I acted like I was going to cut
31:12
Speaker 1: it to shreds. I may agree 100% with this. Oh,
31:14
Speaker 1: on his bad vibes? Yeah. I didn't say you would
31:17
Speaker 1: cut it to shreds. I just thought I wanted to
31:19
Speaker 1: see if you agreed with it. Okay. Chad Withrow puts
31:23
Speaker 1: a lot of effort into this. Yeah. I teased going
31:26
Speaker 1: to break we would cut it to shreds. Okay. This
31:29
Speaker 1: is Withrow's college football programs with the worst vibes. Man,
31:34
Speaker 1: this is a good-looking graphic. Brooks, why don't you build
31:37
Speaker 1: graphics like this, man? Some would say I do. Some
31:43
Speaker 1: would say you do it for Sporting State, too. Yeah.
31:46
Speaker 1: It does look like a Brooks graphic. There was somebody
31:50
Speaker 1: else who put a watermark on at Brooks and make
31:51
Speaker 1: it their own. Don't worry. How about that? Did you
31:54
Speaker 1: see that yesterday? That guy took Brooks graphic, took his
31:56
Speaker 1: watermark off and put his own watermark on like Brooks
31:59
Speaker 1: had next round live watermark on. I mean, we've had
32:02
Speaker 1: stuff stolen and that happens all the time, but for
32:04
Speaker 1: a dude to take a watermark off and then put
32:06
Speaker 1: his own one on there, It was amazing.
32:08
Speaker 4: And he just removed the background. That's all he did.
32:10
Speaker 4: He photoshopped. He AI'd in a different background. That's pretty crazy.
32:14
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, though, I'm literally stealing this segment from
32:16
Speaker 1: another show that was on two hours ago. You're stealing
32:19
Speaker 1: it from Brooks. Perfect credit. And it's under the same platform. Okay.
32:22
Speaker 10: All right.
32:22
Speaker 1: Go ahead. Here is the worst vibes list. Arkansas 1,
32:26
Speaker 1: NC State 2, Maryland 3, Colorado 4, Oklahoma 5. Your disagreement.
32:35
Speaker 10: Where?
32:35
Speaker 2: Where?
32:35
Speaker 1: My first disagreement is NC State. That was a horrible loss. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Horrible loss.
32:42
Speaker 1: And now they've had a couple of them. But I
32:45
Speaker 1: don't know if they make the five worst vibes. The
32:47
Speaker 1: key here is worst vibes of college football programs. Colorado
32:52
Speaker 1: is trending that direction. Boy, they got smoked by Northwestern.
32:57
Speaker 1: They did.
32:58
Speaker 6: 41-7.
32:58
Speaker 1: Now, I need Withrow on the line here to know,
33:01
Speaker 1: is he talking about just coming out of this weekend,
33:03
Speaker 1: or is he talking about Do you know Brooks? Yes.
33:07
Speaker 1: Just this weekend? Yeah, he does one of these every week. Okay.
33:10
Speaker 1: So it's not overall.
33:11
Speaker 2: No.
33:12
Speaker 1: Just this weekend. Okay.
33:13
Speaker 4: Because he actually had Colorado as best vibes after week one.
33:17
Speaker 4: That's funny how things change.
33:18
Speaker 1: It is funny how things change. So this is every week.
33:20
Speaker 1: This is an every week thing. Okay. Then you can't
33:22
Speaker 1: disagree with NC State being on the list. I mean,
33:24
Speaker 1: that's pretty bad vibes. But overall, no. But Arkansas is,
33:29
Speaker 1: if you're just going where the program is right now,
33:32
Speaker 1: Arkansas is the worst vibes. Of any program that should
33:35
Speaker 1: be winning football games. I don't know. I don't know
33:39
Speaker 1: what NC State. Yes, Arkansas is terrible. They're going to
33:41
Speaker 1: be number one on this. I mean, Brooks, whatever Withrow
33:45
Speaker 1: sends you, I would say go ahead and start with
33:47
Speaker 1: Arkansas at number one on your template every week because
33:50
Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to pull out of this.
33:51
Speaker 1: And Maryland, too. That's a year-long thing. If you're not
33:54
Speaker 1: just going week to week, just overall bad vibes of
33:57
Speaker 1: college football programs, those two are on your top five list.
34:02
Speaker 1: Colorado is getting there.
34:03
Speaker 7: Yeah.
34:04
Speaker 1: I mean, Deion's time seems to be approaching.
34:07
Speaker 4: And did you see overnight where they suspended several players?
34:11
Speaker 1: No, I think they're no longer on the team. Some
34:14
Speaker 1: are suspended. I think some are actually off the team.
34:16
Speaker 4: And there was some– I read where they apparently, after
34:20
Speaker 4: the Northwestern game, he ripped into a few players because he–
34:23
Speaker 4: there were players smiling and cutting up and laughing after
34:26
Speaker 4: they got beat 38-7.
34:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a– I do like Coach Prime, his–
34:32
Speaker 1: what he expects out of his players i really do
34:35
Speaker 1: like that part of him and i just don't know
34:39
Speaker 1: if colorado is going to give him enough for some
34:41
Speaker 1: reason it's not working like i thought it was going
34:43
Speaker 1: to work i thought players would flock to deon sanders
34:47
Speaker 1: and it's just not happening um by the way jordan
34:51
Speaker 1: one thing we hadn't talked a lot about jordan seaton
34:52
Speaker 1: did not have a good game against ole miss i
34:54
Speaker 1: mean that was supposed to be that's the for those
34:56
Speaker 1: that don't know the left tackle that LSU way overpaid for.
35:00
Speaker 1: From Colorado. From Colorado, who's a sophomore now. Did not
35:04
Speaker 1: have a good game. And he shows up in a
35:06
Speaker 1: couple of clips where he just looks lost. I do
35:10
Speaker 1: want to focus on number two at NC State, though.
35:12
Speaker 1: You say, like, ah, bad vibes this week, not bad
35:14
Speaker 1: vibes overall. And, again, I'll say the same thing I
35:17
Speaker 1: said about Maryland and maybe South Carolina. I don't know
35:19
Speaker 1: what NC State fans want out of a football program, Jim.
35:22
Speaker 1: At least eight or nine wins. Well, they get that
35:24
Speaker 1: a lot, and they should be happy. Because here's Dave Doran.
35:28
Speaker 1: All right. There's a lot of numbers here, but just
35:30
Speaker 1: stick with me and see if you find a trend.
35:32
Speaker 1: His first year, he was three and nine. We'll throw
35:34
Speaker 1: that one out. That's the first year. All right. After that,
35:36
Speaker 1: eight and five, seven and six, seven and six, nine
35:39
Speaker 1: and four, nine and four, four and eight, eight and four,
35:41
Speaker 1: nine and three, eight and five, nine and four, six
35:43
Speaker 1: and seven, eight and five. Yeah. I gave you a
35:46
Speaker 1: lot of eights right there. I mean, that's an NC
35:47
Speaker 1: State program to me, though. So you just, you think
35:50
Speaker 1: NC State, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I
35:52
Speaker 1: don't think any fan base wants that. That's what I'm saying.
35:54
Speaker 1: No fan base just, and now he's one and two.
35:57
Speaker 1: So this is going to trend towards, we're not even
35:59
Speaker 1: going to get to eight and five this year. Okay,
36:01
Speaker 1: let's just, let's lose the Withrow graphic. All right. He
36:04
Speaker 1: does that every week. I misunderstood that. That's coming out
36:07
Speaker 1: of the weekend, yes. Overall worst five in major college football.
36:12
Speaker 1: The five programs with the worst vibes right now. Well,
36:15
Speaker 1: you've got Arkansas is one. Arkansas is one. I mean,
36:18
Speaker 1: their board of trustees had to release a statement. saying
36:21
Speaker 1: that they're not as competitive as they want to be.
36:23
Speaker 1: Now Hunter Urachek is making the rounds today. He did
36:25
Speaker 1: an interview, I think, with Brett McMurphy, saying, hey, our
36:27
Speaker 1: football program's not where we want it. So you got,
36:30
Speaker 1: I mean, this dude has coached three games, won one
36:32
Speaker 1: of them, but he's coached three games, and he's already
36:35
Speaker 1: got his board of trustees and his athletics director having
36:37
Speaker 1: to say, we know we're not where we need to be.
36:39
Speaker 1: It could not be worse vibes than Arkansas. They're going
36:42
Speaker 1: to retire the trophy. Maryland's a Big Ten team. It's
36:44
Speaker 1: on that list. Rutgers is a Big Ten team. Even
36:49
Speaker 1: though they played USC close, I think they're on that list.
36:52
Speaker 1: I would agree. Of just bad vibes. Purdue seems to
36:57
Speaker 1: be trending up. Yeah. A little bit. They're traditionally on
37:03
Speaker 1: this list. Another SEC team, I don't think you can.
37:08
Speaker 1: North Carolina coming off the loss. That's who I just said. Oh,
37:12
Speaker 1: did you? North Carolina. Coming off the loss to Clemson
37:15
Speaker 1: and with everything that's going on and you've got your
37:17
Speaker 1: son that's the defensive coordinator. No more. He's got to go.
37:22
Speaker 9: He resigned.
37:23
Speaker 1: I know. That's what I'm saying. By the way, they
37:25
Speaker 1: have asked the school for $ 9 million from the endowment
37:30
Speaker 1: of the institution to be put into the athletic department
37:34
Speaker 1: so that they can make ends meet this year. That's
37:37
Speaker 1: big news. North Carolina's got a lot of money. It's
37:40
Speaker 1: a big brand, and they're getting $ 9 million, asking for
37:43
Speaker 1: $ 9 million from the endowment, which I don't know if
37:47
Speaker 1: what I saw was correct, but their endowment is $ 8. 2 billion.
37:50
Speaker 1: That seems low for North Carolina for me.
37:52
Speaker 6: Low, huh?
37:53
Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's a 37% increase on their endowment because
37:57
Speaker 1: they invested in SpaceX and got a big kickback from that. Oh,
38:01
Speaker 1: that's a good investment.
38:03
Speaker 3: Yeah.
38:03
Speaker 1: So they.
38:06
Speaker 1: So basically they're a broke program is what you're saying. Well,
38:08
Speaker 1: not broke, but they're asking for a loan. $ 9 million
38:11
Speaker 1: from the endowment just to make ends meet. I mean,
38:15
Speaker 1: who hasn't asked for $ 9 million from the endowment? I
38:17
Speaker 1: wonder what that is in our terms. Yeah, they did
38:21
Speaker 1: have it. So an initial investment of a few million
38:24
Speaker 1: dollars 15 years ago was a $ 1 billion share sale
38:27
Speaker 1: for them. What an investment by North Carolina. I wonder
38:32
Speaker 1: how many other programs did that. I don't know. $ 17
38:35
Speaker 1: billion is what I'm seeing. Not another SEC school. Oh,
38:37
Speaker 1: Chapel Hill is $ 8. 2 billion. I'm sorry. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:40
Speaker 1: So the overall $ 17 billion. I mean, South Carolina's getting there,
38:45
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I'd put them on overall
38:47
Speaker 1: bad vibes right now. But South Carolina's getting there. Auburn's
38:50
Speaker 1: trending up. It would have been in the discussion last year.
38:52
Speaker 1: I don't know.
38:53
Speaker 5: I mean.
38:54
Speaker 1: For some reason, I don't know how many of the
38:56
Speaker 1: bad plays John Cohen called this weekend, but boy, John Cohen,
38:59
Speaker 1: you said it yourself the other day very well. John
39:01
Speaker 1: Cohen is wearing this loss. He is wearing this loss.
39:04
Speaker 1: And somebody's got to explain to me, I know you
39:06
Speaker 1: always want to have a scapegoat, and you can't make
39:09
Speaker 1: it Alex Gullish because he literally only coached his third
39:11
Speaker 1: game in your uniform. John Summerall is going out of
39:15
Speaker 1: his way to.
39:19
Speaker 1: To make it appear that John Cohen pissed him off
39:22
Speaker 1: somewhere along the way. Yeah, I mean, if you just
39:24
Speaker 1: watch all the volumes of videos that Florida is pumping out,
39:28
Speaker 1: it makes it look like John Summerall was... coaching a
39:30
Speaker 1: very personal game Saturday night. Yeah, I think I'm okay
39:33
Speaker 1: with South Carolina being in there. That would be the
39:35
Speaker 1: five bad vibes. I'm sure we're missing one on the fly.
39:38
Speaker 1: I'd love to chat, but Arkansas, Maryland, Rutgers, North Carolina,
39:41
Speaker 1: and South Carolina. FSU. Oh, that's right. Bump everybody down.
39:46
Speaker 1: They're right behind Arkansas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Arkansas, FSU. Thank you, Russell.
39:50
Speaker 1: We missed FSU. Arkansas, FSU, Maryland, Rutgers, and North Carolina
39:54
Speaker 1: of the power conferences. Yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah.
39:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
39:59
Speaker 1: Maybe at some point Colorado ahead of North Carolina, but
40:02
Speaker 1: that's the bad vibes. Absolutely. When we come back, we
40:07
Speaker 1: will continue. Our conversation, drop a little NFL in because
40:11
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40:14
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40:18
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40:22
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40:25
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40:31
Speaker 1: bad news, bad news for New York Giants fans. Good
40:36
Speaker 1: news for a former Tennessee Titan, a guy who eats
40:40
Speaker 1: the banana without peeling it. Will Levis has been picked
40:43
Speaker 1: up by the Giants because Jackson Dart's knee injury is
40:47
Speaker 1: worse than expected and is possibly going to cost him
40:50
Speaker 1: the entire season. So what a roller coaster of reports
40:55
Speaker 1: that was because it started out yesterday. coming off Monday
40:59
Speaker 1: Night Football, as Ian Rappaport and the NFL Network guys
41:02
Speaker 1: reporting not as bad as it appeared. Sprained MCL, going
41:05
Speaker 1: to have it reevaluated, probably not going to miss the year.
41:09
Speaker 1: Then there were the reports that the Giants had to
41:12
Speaker 1: basically take not just his helmet, but his jersey away.
41:15
Speaker 1: He wanted to go back in the game so badly.
41:17
Speaker 1: They weren't going to let him do it. The doctors
41:19
Speaker 1: were not. And then you end the day with Adam
41:21
Speaker 1: Sheffer reporting, Yeah, not so good that this may cost
41:24
Speaker 1: him the season, looking at season-ending surgery. So of the
41:27
Speaker 1: three major quarterback injuries of Sunday, that one clearly, or
41:31
Speaker 1: Sunday and Monday, that one clearly appears to be the
41:33
Speaker 1: worst one. And boy, that looked like a playoff team.
41:36
Speaker 1: I agree. And then they lose dart and are non-competitive
41:40
Speaker 1: against the Rams. And Jameis Winston looked unprepared, but he's
41:45
Speaker 1: the starter now. And here comes Will Levis, former Titan.
41:50
Speaker 1: Good luck. Banana peel eating will love us. And he's
41:54
Speaker 1: going to get a shot maybe to compete and eventually
41:56
Speaker 1: be the Giants starter. But you know that you've now
41:58
Speaker 1: got Giants fans, and this is such an overreaction, knee
42:01
Speaker 1: jerk to stuff like this. But understandably, with Dart having
42:04
Speaker 1: had a couple injuries now, saying can his style of
42:07
Speaker 1: play hold up in the NFL? Like does he run
42:10
Speaker 1: too much now? And that's who Jackson Dart is, so
42:12
Speaker 1: you don't want to dial that back as much. Brown,
42:15
Speaker 1: I would say it's a valid question. Not just for
42:19
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart, but for anywhere in the NFL. We're about
42:22
Speaker 1: to kick off week three in the NFL. The Giants,
42:26
Speaker 1: the Bears, the Seahawks, the Commanders, the Giants, and the
42:29
Speaker 1: Falcons will all have started two quarterbacks by the time
42:33
Speaker 1: the weekend is done. That's six teams already, and we
42:36
Speaker 1: have not played a third game yet. I know, and...
42:41
Speaker 1: It's never... Dart's a runner. Williams is a runner. Jaden
42:44
Speaker 1: Daniels is a runner. I put Dart on here twice.
42:47
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Well, he's been hurt twice. Penix
42:50
Speaker 1: is a runner-ish.
42:52
Speaker 9: Yeah.
42:53
Speaker 1: Tua's not. Darnall's not anymore. But some of those are runners,
42:58
Speaker 1: and you just put your body at risk. Well, the
43:02
Speaker 1: wild thing is it's never been safer to play quarterback
43:05
Speaker 1: in the NFL. All the rules protect the quarterback. Unless
43:07
Speaker 1: you run. Unless you run. When you pull it down
43:09
Speaker 1: and start to leave the pocket, that's when they don't
43:11
Speaker 1: protect you anymore. And that's when you see why they
43:14
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43:17
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43:20
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43:23
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43:25
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43:26
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43:28
Speaker 2: Yep.
43:29
Speaker 1: Game over. I know who's winning this game.
43:30
Speaker 5: Yep.
43:31
Speaker 1: I mean, and especially when Malik Neighbors went out and
43:33
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43:34
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43:36
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43:38
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43:39
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43:41
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45:12
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45:17
Speaker 1: get random spam text messages now?
45:20
Speaker 2: Yes.
45:21
Speaker 1: All the time. Not that.
45:22
Speaker 4: I think it's... based off your demographic.
45:26
Speaker 1: Okay. So Brooks is saying, yes, Jim, it is because
45:28
Speaker 1: you're old.
45:29
Speaker 2: Mine are typically political. Somebody's trying to either get me
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Speaker 2: to contribute to their campaign or call me on their phone.
45:36
Speaker 1: I'm getting those too. How did I get in on
45:38
Speaker 1: that list? There's been some sort of data leak or
45:40
Speaker 1: something because I get a lot of payday loan stuff.
45:43
Speaker 1: Do y'all get those calls? I don't get payday loans.
45:45
Speaker 1: Not necessarily payday loans, but like... predatory loans yeah predatory
45:49
Speaker 1: loans like uh you can borrow up and my i
45:52
Speaker 1: don't use voicemail in fact my voicemail message if you
45:55
Speaker 1: call me says i don't check my voicemail text me
45:59
Speaker 1: if you need me yeah but i need to change
46:02
Speaker 1: mine because i don't check my voicemail either that's right
46:04
Speaker 1: my phone is all the spam calls all the spam
46:06
Speaker 1: calls go to voicemail and i got this message the
46:08
Speaker 1: other day my voicemail was 100 full uh By the way,
46:12
Speaker 1: don't care. I'm not going to check it. It can
46:13
Speaker 1: stay 100% full. Now people can't leave the voicemails. Yeah,
46:17
Speaker 1: I don't. Look, I mean, as we talk about this,
46:18
Speaker 1: I'm getting one right here. Yeah, I tried. It says
46:21
Speaker 1: maybe this is Kayla. This is not going to be Kayla.
46:23
Speaker 1: You know what it's going to be? Yeah, it's going
46:25
Speaker 1: to be this right here.
46:26
Speaker 3: You should answer it.
46:27
Speaker 1: I am.
46:28
Speaker 3: We can compare different amounts and payments to see what.
46:31
Speaker 1: I get this all the time. Yeah, yeah. And they
46:34
Speaker 1: want me to press two. I'm going to press two. No, don't.
46:36
Speaker 1: I mean, now you're just falling into it. By pressing two,
46:39
Speaker 1: you've now opened up to spam.
46:41
Speaker 3: How are you?
46:43
Speaker 1: Are you calling Ryan Brown? Excuse me. Are you calling
46:47
Speaker 1: Ryan Brown? Thank you very much for calling. This is
46:50
Speaker 1: the Shelby County Sheriff's Department. Ryan is deceased. Do you
46:55
Speaker 1: know him? How do you know Ryan Brown? Excuse me, ma'am.
46:59
Speaker 3: Don't worry about it.
47:00
Speaker 1: He's deceased, right? No, no, he's deceased.
47:02
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it.
47:06
Speaker 1: That might be the worst. Don't worry about it. I'm
47:08
Speaker 1: outside your house. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
47:12
Speaker 1: He's deceased. Did she hang up immediately? Oh, yeah, she
47:14
Speaker 1: hung up. She didn't want to deal with the Shelby
47:15
Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Department. Call back. I get some about how.
47:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, call back and tell her that you're pursuing charges.
47:22
Speaker 1: Call back. It's the FBI and this phone's actually part
47:25
Speaker 1: of the murder trial. How do you have this number?
47:28
Speaker 1: She said, don't worry about it. He's deceased. Oh, don't
47:30
Speaker 1: worry about that. Do you need a loan by chance? See,
47:33
Speaker 1: I don't click on anything because I'm afraid if I
47:35
Speaker 1: click on it, people are going to steal my Facebook again.
47:37
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a cryptocurrency guy again.
47:41
Speaker 2: There was a scam a few years back where it
47:43
Speaker 2: would be an automated voice. And it would ask you
47:47
Speaker 2: a question, and people would say yes, or they would
47:50
Speaker 2: answer the phone with yes, and then they would call back,
47:54
Speaker 2: usually an elderly person, and say, it's like we've got
47:57
Speaker 2: your recording of you agreeing to pay X amount for this.
48:01
Speaker 1: That's right. They've gotten pretty sophisticated with it. Basically, it's like, yes,
48:04
Speaker 1: and you're signing off. You're on a $ 15- whatever- thousand- dollar loan or
48:08
Speaker 1: this and that. You've agreed to it. So I just
48:11
Speaker 1: don't respond to it at all. And I get one like, hey,
48:15
Speaker 1: is your property at 1262 Waverly Street? I get that
48:18
Speaker 1: all the time.
48:18
Speaker 3: That's what I was just going to say.
48:20
Speaker 1: I never touch that one. I'm like... You know what
48:22
Speaker 1: I respond? They're like, do you want to buy it?
48:23
Speaker 1: I say, $ 2 million cash. Every time I respond. In
48:27
Speaker 1: a brown bag. I mark bills.
48:28
Speaker 3: $ 2 million cash.
48:29
Speaker 4: I've been getting window replacement calls and texts like crazy
48:33
Speaker 4: since May. Like when I put my old house on
48:35
Speaker 4: the market. I mean, it was just nonstop, like berated
48:39
Speaker 4: with window replacement.
48:41
Speaker 2: I've got someone... That wants me to refinance my house.
48:44
Speaker 3: Yeah.
48:44
Speaker 2: I'm very upset by that.
48:45
Speaker 1: What's your problem with that?
48:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a one-bedroom apartment that I rent.
48:50
Speaker 1: It's got sewage in the toilet.
48:52
Speaker 2: Which I had a house.
48:52
Speaker 1: And then, of course, all the erectile dysfunction. You guys
48:55
Speaker 1: are all getting that, right? No. No. I'm kidding. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
49:00
Speaker 1: Me either. Me either.
49:02
Speaker 2: You signed up for that one.
49:06
Speaker 1: Speaking of still having his fastball, how about Jacob Mizorowski
49:09
Speaker 1: of the Milwaukee Brewers? He, the lowest batting average allowed
49:16
Speaker 1: ever in Major League Baseball history. Look at the name.
49:19
Speaker 9: He.
49:20
Speaker 1: Batters against him this year, hitting. 150 Brownie. That's going
49:24
Speaker 1: to break the Major League record set by Pedro Martinez,
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Speaker 1: who is a. 167. Louis Tiant, so old it's black
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Speaker 1: and white pictures. He used to turn his back on
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Speaker 1: the batter. He did for the Red Sox back in
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Speaker 1: the day. Nolan Ryan on there twice, 171 in back-to-back years. Verlander,
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Speaker 1: who will make his last start this Saturday for the Tigers, 172.
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Speaker 1: Another guy who I can't read his name, and another
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Speaker 1: guy I don't care about. That's an amazing list, and
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Speaker 1: Miz is right there at the top of that, and
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Speaker 1: that's pretty crazy. Pretty crazy. That's wild. Also pretty crazy.
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Speaker 1: Keep this in mind for your NFL schedule this weekend.
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Speaker 1: If you're going to hard rock bet to make a wager,
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Speaker 1: if you're in one of those states, there's a nor'easter.
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Speaker 1: Is it nor'eastern? Nor'easter. I said it right the first time. Nor'easter.
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Speaker 1: There's a nor'easter blowing through the northeast this weekend that's
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Speaker 1: going to impact the end of the Major League Baseball season.
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Speaker 1: which is going to force a lot of wild, wild
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Speaker 1: card scenarios, tie-breaking scenarios. But more importantly, on the Saturday
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Speaker 1: college football and then the Sunday NFL games, keep an
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Speaker 1: eye out on the weather that could impact some of
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Speaker 1: the games. You may want to jump on some numbers early. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: get some unders for a nor'easter. Maybe some nor'easter unders
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Speaker 1: quickly with our friends at Hard Rock Bet, if you're
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Speaker 1: in a state where it's legal, to get ready for
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Speaker 1: the weekend. And I guess I've got to talk about it.
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Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Rays won the American League East last night.
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Speaker 1: I noticed your shirt today. You got the Rays shirt on.
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Speaker 1: Good job out of you guys. My team won the
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Speaker 1: American League East last night. Where did they do it?
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Speaker 1: In freaking Yankee Stadium. Is that the name of it now?
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Speaker 1: They went into freaking Yankee Stadium, won the second part
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Speaker 1: of the doubleheader. They win the American League East for
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Speaker 1: the first time since 2021 to do the champagne celebration
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Speaker 1: in the Yankees visiting locker room. It's amazing for a
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Speaker 1: franchise that spends as little money as Tampa Bay. At
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Speaker 1: least y'all may not have to beat them again in
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Speaker 1: the postseason to advance. The playoffs where the bracket is
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Speaker 1: jacked up to where we'd have to play the Yankees
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Speaker 1: in our first playoff series, too. It makes no sense.
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Speaker 1: But a pretty cool celebration. With as little as you
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Speaker 1: guys spend, what you guys have accomplished over the years
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Speaker 1: has been incredible. It's really a fascinating franchise. Drew Rasmussen,
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Speaker 1: the pitcher last night, seven innings of no-hit baseball. He
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Speaker 1: has won every start since the All-Star break. 12 starts,
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Speaker 1: 12 wins. How many times can you pitch him in
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Speaker 1: the postseason? As many times as we can roll him
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Speaker 1: out there. Until his arm falls off?
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Pretty crazy weekend in baseball there. Keep that Nor'easter in mind.
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Speaker 1: By the way, Forrester, is your White Sox? I see
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Speaker 1: the White Sox hat. How close are you to clenchings?
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Speaker 8: Uh, they hold a one game lead over the Indians.
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Speaker 8: They're basically a lock to at least get a wild card.
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Speaker 1: Oh, basically. The Guardians, you mean. The Guardians.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Guardians.
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Speaker 1: That's okay.
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Speaker 3: I forget the, uh, I forget the Indians got canceled.
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Speaker 1: If we were playing Family Feud, it would have clicked up. Ding! Cleveland.
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Speaker 6: Um.
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Speaker 8: But, but, if the White Sox were to finish tied,
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Speaker 8: they win the division.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but what really makes me mad is, okay, you
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Speaker 1: guys will get a bye. Right? Correct. With a miserable record.
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Speaker 1: And you will play the winner of the Cleveland or
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Speaker 1: Texas-Houston series.
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Speaker 8: You understand this team lost 120 games two years ago.
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Speaker 3: That was miserable.
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Speaker 1: I'm only making the point that Tampa Bay is the
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Speaker 1: number one seed, and they're going to play the winner
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Speaker 1: of the Red Sox-Yankees.
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Speaker 3: Miserable.
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Speaker 1: You are going to win the division White Sox and
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Speaker 1: play the winner of Cleveland. And whoever wins the American
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Speaker 1: League West Texas in Houston wins. Those two teams, Texas
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Speaker 1: and Houston, right now are 78 and 79. That's kind
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Speaker 1: of weird. There is a chance that we'll have the
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Speaker 1: first ever losing record major league baseball playoff team. Right now,
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Speaker 1: the worst playoff team record ever, 2005 San Diego, 82
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Speaker 1: and 80. And these guys aren't going to get there.
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Speaker 1: Pretty crazy. And we have to play the Yankees.
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Speaker 3: Hate it for you.
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Speaker 1: In the second round. When we come back, the great
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Speaker 1: Mike Johnson talks Alabama football with us, talks college football
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Speaker 1: with us, and talks the NFL with us. That's all
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Speaker 1: next on the next round presented by Hard Rock Bets
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Speaker 1: on Sporting State.