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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Football Begins - Wren Baker Visits (Episode 730) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it is time for three guys before the game.
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  Speaker 2: We welcome you all in.
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  Speaker 1: We're recording on the fifth day of August twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 1: which this is the big day, the start of football
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  Speaker 1: practice for the world champion West Virginia Mountaineers.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got Rich Rodriguez post practice sound coming up.
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  Speaker 1: He opines on a few topics.
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  Speaker 3: Did you played some clips and I just got oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's here and he got excited?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got excited. Did it bring you joy?
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  Speaker 3: It brought me, Well, it's a prelude to joy.
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  Speaker 4: You know. What was what was neat though?
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  Speaker 2: Real quick?
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  Speaker 4: It was fun that we saw that College World Series
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  Speaker 4: game yesterday in Omaha, and today we're underway with football.
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  Speaker 2: That was fun and basketball starts in three weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, over two games into basketball.
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  Speaker 1: We also are going to be joined for a little visit,
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  Speaker 1: not a big, long, whole show visit. He was in here,
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  Speaker 1: not all that long ago. Big, but he keeps making
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  Speaker 1: he keeps making news.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you guy makes news all the good news.
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  Speaker 1: WVU Athletics director Vice president Bren Baker will also join
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  Speaker 1: us West Virginia making news yesterday with the patch announcement
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  Speaker 1: Mountaineers including you. So, like I said, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: But please let's welcome the Director of Athletics at West
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  Speaker 1: Virginia University and Vice President Wren Baker Busy, Tommy Busy.
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  Speaker 1: He was down there at at the Greenbrier oiland Gas
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  Speaker 1: show down at the Greenbrier yesterday. Big announcement that going
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  Speaker 1: forward over the next several years and Tiro Resources will
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  Speaker 1: have their name on the WVU uniforms in all sports.
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  Speaker 1: So that's eighteen sports. And it's obviously, as we talked
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  Speaker 1: about with Wren in his last visit, there are nee
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  Speaker 1: right that don't stop in regard to generating new sources
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  Speaker 1: of income, and this is one of those. Good afternoon
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  Speaker 1: to you, sir.
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  Speaker 5: How are you, Oh, gentlemen. I think we're going to
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  Speaker 5: have to change that logo for four guys. Anytime I
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  Speaker 5: make an appearance, that's going to be a new requirement
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  Speaker 5: that's written into my contract.
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  Speaker 2: That would be nice, yeah, for that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there are alternate logos are big, so we
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  Speaker 4: could use a secondary mark. I'm not a post to that.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good idea, Ren, I'll work on that. Efforting
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  Speaker 4: and effort.
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  Speaker 1: And Hoppy does as you well know, he does vacation
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  Speaker 1: a bit. So maybe he could become like a d
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  Speaker 1: h you know, you know what'd be like like the
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  Speaker 1: Three Stooges, remember Hoppy when Curly wouldn't be able to
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  Speaker 1: make it, they bring that other one in. That other
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  Speaker 1: like Rent could be that shep. Yeah, bring shep in.
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  Speaker 1: Rent could be shep. Look it up. Guys are too young. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: this is significant news. If you would walk us through
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  Speaker 1: the evolution of doing this deal with Antero.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean as as then say started to evaluate
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  Speaker 5: rather to change the legislation that would allow a uniform
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  Speaker 5: patch to be sold. Then we we started to evaluate
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  Speaker 5: is this something that that we want to do. First
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  Speaker 5: of all, if we are going to do it, what's
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  Speaker 5: the what's the monetary valuation that we think it is.
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  Speaker 5: So we engaged a couple of outside entities to kind
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  Speaker 5: of help us understand, Hey, here's what we think this
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  Speaker 5: would be worth. And uh, and then started to really
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  Speaker 5: consider who we would want to marry our brand within
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  Speaker 5: a partnership like this, and and and certainly you don't
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  Speaker 5: want it to be just any any company and so actually, uh,
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  Speaker 5: Antero reached out to us also wanting to get involved
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  Speaker 5: with us and do something, and and those conversations kind
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  Speaker 5: of morphed into a discussion around around the uniform patches,
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  Speaker 5: and so it really worked work together well. The conversation
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  Speaker 5: has been going on for quite some time. I give
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  Speaker 5: a lot of credit to Don Robinson. Rob also also
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  Speaker 5: our folks over at Learfield Evan and his team who
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  Speaker 5: engaged in those conversations. And I'm really really excited about
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  Speaker 5: where it landed, really excited to partner with in Taro,
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  Speaker 5: and I know we'll probably talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 5: them and their company, but also excited about the way
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  Speaker 5: it turned out. I mean, it's not one that where
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  Speaker 5: you got a bunch of different colors. It's in it.
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  Speaker 5: They agreed, it's in our color palette and our color scheme,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, it looks really good, even all the
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  Speaker 5: way to the mountains that are embedded in their logo,
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  Speaker 5: and and it just worked out really well for us.
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  Speaker 4: I thought one of the things yesterday that stood out
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  Speaker 4: run when Mary Beth Anderson from Intaro talked about this partnership,
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  Speaker 4: she referenced the state of West Virginia being an energy state.
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  Speaker 4: I'm impressed how athletics has worked with all the different
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  Speaker 4: energy providers in this state to come together and Taro
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  Speaker 4: being the recent one but not the only one that
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  Speaker 4: has turned into a nice category. Hasn't it for athletics
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  Speaker 4: as a partnership.
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  Speaker 5: It really has. If you were to go back, you know,
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  Speaker 5: five years ago, I don't know that that we would
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  Speaker 5: have crossed over a million dollars from the energy sector
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  Speaker 5: and total total giving and sponsorship and all the different
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  Speaker 5: areas that that we do. But now if you look
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  Speaker 5: at you know what what comes in through multimedia rights,
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  Speaker 5: what comes in through which is lear Field Mountaineer Sports Properties,
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  Speaker 5: what comes in through Golden Blue Enterprise, what comes in
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  Speaker 5: through the MAC both from individuals the leadership of those companies,
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  Speaker 5: but but also from the companies themselves. You know that
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  Speaker 5: that that industry is doing well in excess of eight figures.
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  Speaker 5: I think I may actually go and try and pencil
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  Speaker 5: it all. And I'm talking about eight figures annually. And
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  Speaker 5: so when you look at the growth that we've had,
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  Speaker 5: it's a really important We're not as date that's that's
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  Speaker 5: a home to a ton of fortune five hundred companies, right,
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  Speaker 5: and so but we are a state that has a
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  Speaker 5: lot of energy production, and I think it works well
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  Speaker 5: together those companies need, you know, I think our state
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  Speaker 5: needs the brand people to know in this new world
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  Speaker 5: where energy production is so vital to the growth of
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  Speaker 5: your economy, that West Virginia is a state that has
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  Speaker 5: the capacity and capability to produce a considerable amount of
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  Speaker 5: energy and we're a great avenue to do that. But
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  Speaker 5: really started a few years ago with Diversified Energy, who
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  Speaker 5: is still a major, major sponsor, and they stepped up
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  Speaker 5: in a big way. Of course, their chair, Rusty Hudson,
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  Speaker 5: is the chair of our board and he he's very
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  Speaker 5: much involved and committed to helping us grow. And then
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  Speaker 5: you know, have had lots of other companies that that
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  Speaker 5: have stepped up, Ken Mason and and his company dak
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  Speaker 5: Northeast Natural Energy, Mike Mike John just a variety of
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  Speaker 5: different ways. But then a year ago with Hope Gas
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  Speaker 5: in the Coliseum partnership and now this one, that segment
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  Speaker 5: has grown just considerably and continues to be important. And
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  Speaker 5: that's not to mention our longtime relationship with the West
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  Speaker 5: Virginia Coal Association and some of the other energy providers
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  Speaker 5: in the state.
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  Speaker 2: Here's a question you're not going to answer, but I'll
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  Speaker 2: ask it anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Is I mean, why would you attack the person that's
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  Speaker 1: been nice enough to come on for an interview and
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  Speaker 1: telling him what he won't do what.
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  Speaker 3: I'm curious as to how much how much it's worth,
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  Speaker 3: And I know there's no obligation for you or anyone
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  Speaker 3: to say because actually to deal with deal with Learfield,
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  Speaker 3: which is a private company, so it's not subject to
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  Speaker 3: for you. But still some of the numbers are out
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  Speaker 3: there with some of the bigger institutions like Ohio State
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  Speaker 3: and Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm going to give you a range.
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking this deal over five years is more than
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  Speaker 3: more than eight and less than sixteen for five years.
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  Speaker 3: I'm an that's that's my range. More than eight in
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  Speaker 3: less than sixteen over five years, with eighty percent going
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  Speaker 3: to the university in twenty percent of Airfield.
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  Speaker 2: Am I close?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, here's what I would say. We're
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  Speaker 5: we're not prepared to release the details of that for
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  Speaker 5: variety of reasons, but certainly considerably more than your first number,
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  Speaker 5: and capacity to be even even greater than that. You know,
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  Speaker 5: no one has released the exact details of their of
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  Speaker 5: their patch deals that I've seen, there's been guesses and
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  Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. But even in like the Ohio
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  Speaker 5: state numbers that come out, they're naming a new club
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  Speaker 5: that's been introduced there, there's other assets that are that
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  Speaker 5: are involved. And so we really in this particular case,
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  Speaker 5: we didn't package a bunch of other assets. It's primarily
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  Speaker 5: just around the patch deal. And we had multiple people
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  Speaker 5: give us valuations and actually exceeded those valuations quite a
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  Speaker 5: bit in what we aver to get and I will
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  Speaker 5: you and Taro there wasn't we put a number on
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  Speaker 5: there that we were we thought was a stretch and
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  Speaker 5: there was not a lot of negotiation on that number.
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  Speaker 5: And Taro come to the table and really step step forward.
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  Speaker 5: And so I'm excited about where we landed the opportunity
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  Speaker 5: that it gives us. And you know, and and I
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  Speaker 5: don't really worry so much about some of those other
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  Speaker 5: numbers that are being thrown out there because I know
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  Speaker 5: each of those numbers and those situations are different, and
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  Speaker 5: what's included in there. Sometimes there's a sweet commitment, Sometimes
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  Speaker 5: there's tickets, Sometimes there's other advertising, there's activations of different kinds.
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  Speaker 5: But what I will tell folks is we're very confident
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  Speaker 5: that we got an above market deal for for what
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  Speaker 5: our uniform patches. And we're very proud that. You know
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  Speaker 5: that Antaro was excited about it, that it wasn't something
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  Speaker 5: where we had to go on with a hard sale.
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  Speaker 5: We set down. They were excited, we were excited, and
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  Speaker 5: it's a deal that the bulk of the deal come
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  Speaker 5: together very quickly. The nuanced details took much longer as
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  Speaker 5: they do sometimes, but yeah, it was one that we're
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  Speaker 5: very we're very thrilled before it landed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like the concept, do you guys talked about.
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  Speaker 1: Is it brands West Virginia as an energy state. Right
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  Speaker 1: when you take a look at you know, diversified at
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  Speaker 1: the football stadium, you take a look at Hope Gas
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  Speaker 1: at the coliseum. Now you're going to see Antaro, we're
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  Speaker 1: in energy state. And I was talking, you know earlier.
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  Speaker 1: You listen to some of these networks and things like
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  Speaker 1: that in the Midwest, like Iowa, like oh, it's heavy agriculture, right,
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  Speaker 1: and those folks come in that are in those different worlds,
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  Speaker 1: and West Virginia is an energy state, whatever it might be, coal, gas, oil,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is. And so it's kind of put your
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  Speaker 1: brand down.
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  Speaker 3: And also I was going to mention this in an
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  Speaker 3: obvious observation, but we talked primarily about the benefit for
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia in Lilearfield. This is really good for in Taro,
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  Speaker 3: and Taro is like it's it's a big company. It's
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  Speaker 3: based in I think in Colorado when you can crently
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  Speaker 3: I find wrong. But I mean there are energy are
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  Speaker 3: primary energy holdings are in Appalachia with the Marcellus and
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  Speaker 3: shale drilling, and they are their size. They are bigger
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  Speaker 3: than the other four natural gas drillers in West Virginia
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  Speaker 3: combined and terot Resources. They are a huge natural gas
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  Speaker 3: producing company. Yet if I say to you and Taro,
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  Speaker 3: you might go, wait a minute, who is it? They
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  Speaker 3: are not that well known considering how big they are.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you would know hook Gas better, you would
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  Speaker 3: know you know friends of cold better. So to me,
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  Speaker 3: this is a really good deal for in Taro to
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  Speaker 3: raise to bred, to raise its profile.
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  Speaker 4: Hence one of the reasons they bought it, right, That's
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  Speaker 4: why they wanted on the patch. It's it's great ability,
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  Speaker 4: no question.
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  Speaker 5: I'll just say, you know, I have a job where
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of my job to know companies and their
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  Speaker 5: and their capacity, and there was a lot that I
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  Speaker 5: didn't know about and Taro until we got into this.
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  Speaker 5: I believe I could be a little often these numbers.
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  Speaker 5: But I believe since they came here, they've paid over
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  Speaker 5: seven billion dollars in royalties to West Virginians. And so
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  Speaker 5: they are a there. They are massive, massive holdings. They've
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  Speaker 5: sold all their holdings in other states, even though their
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  Speaker 5: headquarters are technically in Colorado, all of their all of
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  Speaker 5: their holdings are right here in West Virginia. They have
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  Speaker 5: consolidated and are are really focused here. And a good
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  Speaker 5: portion of the natural gas that comes in from around
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  Speaker 5: the country is harvested right here in West Virginia. So
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  Speaker 5: you know, yeah, they're a company that that is doing
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  Speaker 5: a lot and and probably has been doing a lot
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  Speaker 5: for a lot of different charities quietly, and and I
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  Speaker 5: think this is one that's a very public, uh facing
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  Speaker 5: endeavor of theirs to get their brand out there, their
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  Speaker 5: name and so that people know that they are involved
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  Speaker 5: in the community. They are doing things uh here in
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  Speaker 5: West Virginia and beyond. And again back to what I said,
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  Speaker 5: if you look at where the world's going with the
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  Speaker 5: growth of AI and all these data centers people were
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  Speaker 5: talking about. I know that gets a little controversial, but
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  Speaker 5: no matter how you look at it, there is a
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  Speaker 5: rapidly evolving and rapidly growing need for energy in the
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  Speaker 5: United States and internationally all over the world. And the
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  Speaker 5: fact that that is we have an abundance of energy
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  Speaker 5: production capability in this state. It is already significant. We
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  Speaker 5: provide a lot of energy to the region. It is growing,
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  Speaker 5: their power plants being built, and that is going to
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  Speaker 5: be critical when you look at West Virginia trying to
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  Speaker 5: turn around that population loss that we've had for decades. Now,
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  Speaker 5: states and areas that can produce energy have a major advantage.
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  Speaker 5: And so hopefully this brings attention and awareness to Hey,
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  Speaker 5: if you're looking to relocate your company, you know, no
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  Speaker 5: matter what it is that you do, West Virginia is
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: a great place to look at.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm happy with it because I was a little concerned,
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  Speaker 1: to be quite honest, I haven't told you this publicly,
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  Speaker 1: but I was concerned you were going to put Renfredo
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  Speaker 1: on the patch.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't discuss this. But can I go off script
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  Speaker 4: for a minute, because you just opened the door. Course,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna do an early WV medicine textual healing. If
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  Speaker 4: you don't, if you don't mind, if you'll bear with me,
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  Speaker 4: go ahead. Texture sent to me. Not in West Virginia.
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  Speaker 4: Where was he state in the midwest?
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  Speaker 2: Iowa?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Texter says, Imagine that I was eating at a
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: restaurant the other night and the guy orders chicken palm
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  Speaker 4: with Alfredo. He was badgering the waiter to tell him,
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  Speaker 4: you got to get this on the menu. He's like,
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: this is the best thing. Ever, how is this thing
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  Speaker 4: not on the menu? You've got to put it on,
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  Speaker 4: he said. I was so close to getting up and
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  Speaker 4: going over to walk walk over and ask the guy
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  Speaker 4: if he was a three guys listener. It was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: It's so now the viruses Iowa.
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  Speaker 4: Appropriate that the director of athletics is on Renfredo has
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  Speaker 4: now spread not only regionally, it is now over into
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  Speaker 4: the Midwest. Yeah, congratulations.
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  Speaker 5: Right, you guys have made it to where like when
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: I when I go places, people if I don't order,
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: people are like, what what's going on? Like like that's
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: the only I can order at any restaurant. Now I'm
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  Speaker 5: going into a burger place and they're asking if I
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  Speaker 5: can get Alfredo.
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  Speaker 2: There? It is.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was going to be the patch.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I am a little bummed out. As a buddy
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  Speaker 4: of mine, I'm a little bummed out he didn't go
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  Speaker 4: over and ask it. Very well.
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  Speaker 1: For listen, we'll see as we go on the road
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  Speaker 1: this year, we'll let you go. But I do want
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  Speaker 1: to ask you this. So practice started today for football,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously the rest of the fall sports teams are
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  Speaker 1: getting underway as well. You got your soccers and cross
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: country and everything else. What is your biggest angst or
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: concern going into this athletic year?
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  Speaker 5: How about the use of Yeah, I think you know, overall,
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  Speaker 5: as we enter a year, I'm always more just excited.
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  Speaker 5: Like you guys were there today. When you get a
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  Speaker 5: chance to be at the first day of practice, regardless
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  Speaker 5: of sport, the energy that is there is just palpable.
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  Speaker 5: You can touch it, you can feel it. It is
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: so exciting. You get to day seven or day eight.
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  Speaker 5: There's some people that are hitting the wall. There's some
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  Speaker 5: there's you know, you need almost a referee to stop
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: the fights amongst people out there sometimes, so you know,
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  Speaker 5: but day one is always awesome and fun. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I think I continue to be worried about the future
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  Speaker 5: of of intercalaesiate athletics if we don't get some kind
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  Speaker 5: of regulation. And as we sit here today, you know
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  Speaker 5: that it looks like there's a decent chance that that
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: the Saving College Sports Senate Bill is going to be
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: brought to the floor for a vote. Seems like maybe
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: not an overwhelming odds in favor of but but I
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: would say at least fifty one forty nine they get
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: a vote before before they go into recess. But we
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: we continue in this unregulated environment to have a cost
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: escalate escalation that is that is just going to become
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: untenable at some point. And so I said this earlier
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: today on talk line. We've grown our budget fish million
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: dollars in my four years here. It's incredible growth. If
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: you look at what's going into the roster, whether it's
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: the additional scholarships we've done, the REVS share or above
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: cap moneies that that are going there that are more
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: or less redrects of our resources that we could be
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: putting elsewhere. There's over forty million of that fifty that's
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: going into that that's all been, that's all happened in
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: the last three or four years, and so that kind
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: of growth is not sustainable long term. And at some point,
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: if you're going to continue to have eighteen sports and
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: try and field competitive teams in eighteen sports, you're you're
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: gonna have to start making some really hard decisions. So
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: that's probably what keeps me awake at night. But you
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: know what we're gonna do until we get some kind
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: of bill across or some kind of system that's in place,
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: whether that comes through this bill or through finally going
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: down the collective bargaining route, whatever it is is, We're
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: gonna do everything we can do to position WU in
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: the best best possible situation it can be. But I've
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: had a few people, even with that new cap, which
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: is forty eight point eight, they're like, God, we we
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: can never we would never get there. We'll find a
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: way if we get a cat to get there. What
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: is really hard is not having a number that's a
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: goal for you to get to and it's imaginary and
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: it changes every right exactly.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate your time, so you around the practice facilities.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: You've got a football press box to knock down this year.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: You've got construction going around on the tarmac at.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: The Hey right now in the background that starts you
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: guys may or may not can hear it, but they're
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: beating this this apron that runs around the coliseum there.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: It's the demolitions in full effect, right.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: So Lord knows, Lord knows it's due.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Bad nice beautification project there.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna look nice. You said it's gonna be
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: stamped concrete.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: There it is, with some tributes to some of our
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: great players, some of the trail blazers that come here,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: maybe even potentially moving the statues that are up against
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: the building of Jerry and and uh rod out out
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: closer to where people can see them easier. You know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: they're kind of hidding back there and really highlighting those.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: So it's it's a project that we've got some ideas.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: We also got some concepts if some money comes forward,
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: so for Hoppy uh, you know, we would take a
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Hoppy donation and any of the listeners out there that
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: just call call my office, call them Mac and tell
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: them you want to be a part of that project.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: It's not one that you know, maybe everybody thinks about
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: in terms of projects that we need. But again, if
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: you had come up here and actually paid attention to it,
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: it was a trip hazard. It was it was unsightly,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: it was crumbling and falling apart and getting worse by
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: the day. And so I'm really excited about it, even
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: though it's not it's not a new building, it's not
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: necessarily the sexiest project. It's a very very critical infrastructure
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: project that we're excited about.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Awesome, Yeah, well said all right, my friend, we appreciate
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: your time and congratulations on the patch.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Hey, thank you guys. Enjoy the rest of the show.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks a bunch.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: There is Ren Baker, director of Athletics, vice president of
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: West Virginia University. So well, that's set off a whole
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: new swag line. Now, like when you get in the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: secondary mark with a four.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: So like because these game jerseys now, and I'll being serious,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about this for the first time. So like,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: when you get a game jersey, now, you gotta have
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it on there. It'll be on there, It'll.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Be sure, just like the Nikes are on there now.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the monster I thought you meant the four.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: The four guys.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Logo No, and the Monster Energy you'll be on there
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right with the Big twelve. Yeahs are combined.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: That's the same logo, same same thing.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: So I wonder I was driving and I was thinking
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: about NASCAR, which has obviously mastered all of this. Yeah,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: so going forward, do you have like the tutor's biscuit football?
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: So the quarter after the game, After the game, the
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: quarterback says, well, the tutor I was throwing well because
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: the Tutor's biscuit football is would come out of my hand.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Now here's one that I think and again as I
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: used to do that, right, that was like that was
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: my career. So I'm really liberal when it comes to
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: that stuff. But here was one that maybe is a
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: touch too far. Someone told me today that Akron we
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: can fact check. I'm not fact check this. It's always dangerous.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: It has never stopped us on this show.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: It has not.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Akron has is auctioning off the right to call a
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: it was either a play or an entire series in
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: their opening drive of an opening game. That's horrific in
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: a game, horrific You do that in spring game. That's
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: when you have some doing it in a game. Wow,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: you talk about going maybe had that step too far there?
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: That's too far again, My apologies. If that's not right,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: let me I'll look that up while we're going.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I will go ahead anyway.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Rich Rodriguez's post practice press comments are coming up in
• 22:57
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• 23:31
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• 23:51
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• 23:52
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• 23:55
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• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Don't care of its home opener? TA care?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: So that was true?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: That's that's horrific.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: That's a stunner, isn't it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Who who?
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Wow, that's a wow.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean what I'd tell you what I would
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: do if I were the coach, and I wouldn't like that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I'd say, we got third and fifteen.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: You called play, smart guy, you've been you've been doing
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: for years up in the stands, Go ahead, cold play.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: That's an embarrassment. It really truly is. Didn't further school
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: to do that. There you go, all right, let's jump in.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Football practice has formally begun, and here are a couple
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: of things. You know that the sun will rise, you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: know that the sun will set, and you know the
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: college football coaches come out of their first practice of
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the year not happy. Here's rich Rodriguez following practice number one,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: which took earlier today here in Morgantown.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: Judge what I've seen throughout the summer a little bit,
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: but I do, you know, I have to watch the
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: field and have a true barma on how today went.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: I didn't think it was great. I didn't think it
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: was awful, but I was you know, I told the team,
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: I'm not you know, there's not a lot of people
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: predicting us to do very well, and I hope that's motivation,
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: and it should be motivation when people are picking you
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: last or next to last.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Wherever it is.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: But I'd rather have discipline because motivation is good for
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: a little bit. But I'd rather have the type of
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: discipline you need to have to win, because discipline is
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: greater motivation because it's there all the time. So that's
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: what we talked about. We have a lot of things
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: that motivate us, and that's good, but we have to
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: have the proper discipline to get to where we want
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: this program to be. And that's a process. But the
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: next two weeks are going to be That's my job,
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: our staff's job to get that kind of environment going
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: in our program.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't think that was that, DeBie Downer.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, I he said something key and it's coach speak,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: but he's right, Red, you played. Discipline is better than
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: motivation because motivation gets you started, discipline keeps you going.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: He presented it well there, yes he did, but he
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: about four or five different times during the press conference
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: he talked about they weren't where they thought he would
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: be auditioning wise in the first YEA. So that one
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: clip he handled well, that wasn't a rich rant. He
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: didn't go off on a tangent, he didn't scream and
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: heel during the press conference, but it was clear he
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: was not not pleased with day one in terms of
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: an endurance standpoint. Is what he was getting after.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, because perhaps you know, like everyone else, you have
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: higher expectations. You get giddy for Christmas, you think you're
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: going to come down the steps and have this, you know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you know, this beautiful present. Then when you go down
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: there go that's not exactly what I thought I was
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: going to get. I think he had a little of
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: that and also.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: And he talked about he did he didn't make that.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he mentioned he said.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: It was my fault for having two high expectations. It
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: still is the first day of real practice.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: And here's another thought that I had that I don't
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: think is being taken into account. He kept saying how
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: beautiful the weather was, and we might even have a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: bite here in a second about how nice the weather
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: was and low humidity. Okay, fine, But when they go
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: out in the summertime, right in June and July, it's shorts,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: t shirts and that's it, right, and it's about ten
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: or eleven periods. Well today it goes twenty one periods
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and you're wearing helmets and some shells underneath it as well,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Like the whole thing changed. Put an eight pound helmet
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: on your head and your head can't breathe anymore. And
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: like do you think you think it's a different Your
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: body's going to react differently.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: You're going fast, there's no yea.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: The practice, right, I mean, they may practice as fast
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: as anyone in the country, right, And so it is
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: this shock that goes through your system. And I think
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: it does, like he said, it takes a little bit
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: to adjust to and yah, that's that.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: So here's rich again looking forward to this obviously this
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: coming season and talking about playing in a lot of games.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: You got a lot of playing to do here in
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a short period of.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: Time until they really play some games, do you really
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: know where they're at. But we're gonna play. There's a
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: bunch of that freshman class that we really like it
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: are gonna play. And I want to play more people
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: than anybody in the country. I mean, that's I told
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: the team that yesterday. You know, I want to play
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: whatever eighty guys in a game. I want to play,
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: but I'm not gonna play just to play. You got
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: to be good enough to win with. I don't want
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: to be concerned in my first team.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Second.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: You guys are always concerned about who's the starter, who's second.
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: I want to be they're good enough to win with
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: they play, and as simple as that. And if they're
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: not good enough to win with, the coaching, the coaches
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: and the players got to both work to get them
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: to that level. But I want if you're good enough
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: to win with, you play, because you're all all what's
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: going on, no matter what the player is getting paid,
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: no matter what kind of attention he's getting.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: They're not happy when.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: They're not playing, and then when they're they're happy when
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: they are have an opportunity to show what.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: They can do.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: Well, it's on the coaches and on the players to
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: get themselves ready to win with so they can play.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: And we have a lot of guys I think, and
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: have that ability to play. But they've got basically three
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: weeks now to prove that we can do that.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: So there's a lot of things going on here. When
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: he starts talking about this stuff, what do you mean
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: by that? Well, with the conditioning and then into playing
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: a lot of players that it's not normal just coach
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: speak like, first thing, I'm not happy because we're not
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: in shape, right, It's not that because of the pace
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: at which West Virginia plays, being in shape and being
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: able to run that long is an important part of it.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: The playing people is a couple things. There's no more
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: red shirt, so now you don't have to worry about
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: getting a guy in, saving a guy, putting a guy back.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Now it's all hands on deck. Anybody on that roster
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: that can go. That's one of those things that you
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: should believe him when he says that if you can
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: contribute your playing, you don't have to hold back any further.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: And then those two things wrapped together as you go fast,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: and if you you're able to get this offense on
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: track and get some first downs and stack those together,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: now the endurance starts to come in. Your multiple guys
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: start to come in because your attempt at wearing down
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: that defense suddenly makes you better. And that's when the
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: payoff comes with the tempo. And so all that stuff
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: isn't just normal coach speak that you would hear anyway, right,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: you'd hear coaches, I don't want to play everybody, Oh,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I want to be in shade. Like normal coaches always
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: say that he's got a method. It has to be
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: he's trying to get to a point where you're the best,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: most conditioned team with the most players, so you can
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: go really fast. Now that tempo really becomes an advantage
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: to you.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: And if you're a player, I'll go back to motivation.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: And if you're a player, but you're not quote unquote starting,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: you say, but I got a chance.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: To play, sure, no question.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: So so that that engages those guys.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: That helps with the engagement during practice keeps you on board.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: It theoretically helps retention down the line when all those
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: guys are playing. It helps in recruiting to know that
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: comes in if you don't win the starting job, Okay, fine,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: you're still gonna get carries. You're gonna get snapped. So
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: that is all tied together when he talk those things.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: It is And here's one other last piece regarding the practice,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and that is, in his opinion, if you're going to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: be a really good player, you're really good all of
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Every day.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: The best players have ever coached, they were good every day.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: They didn't have bad days. They didn't you know, they
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: may not they may have got like maybe dropped a
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: pass or done something, but every day they played a
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: certain level. And that's to me, I don't say that
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: that's the challenges coaches that we have to do to
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: get our players understand. There's not like, oh, they take
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: this one playoff and that's okay, and that's who our
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: that's what our programs got to be.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: That's such an important point. Rossdge ended basketball practice with
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: that exact speech to the team that the great ones
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: don't take a day off, even if it's July in
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: the practice facility against the scout team. You got to
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: bring it every day, the exceptional guys and all of
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: you want to get to the next level. The exceptional
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: guys bring it every day. And this gets back to training.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: And there's another This is a coach speak, but it's
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: often said you don't rise to the occasion. You fall
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: to the level of your training. So you can't say, okay,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I practiced to okay, but I'll rise when the game's on. No,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: you fall to the level of your training, and if
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: you train effectively, you're going to perform better.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: So I think that's you know, you listen to rich
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: and I can't remember what his philosophies were when he
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: was here the first time. I really can't remember. But
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: you know, he knows what he wants to do. I mean,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: he's very clear about what he wants to do in
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: the kind of team he wants there. You can listen
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: to him and even though there's some coach speaking there,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: it's evident. It's not nebulous at all. It's clear as
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: a bell.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is a really super base generalization of
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: what he thinks of how to win football games. Knows
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the lay of the land, and so he knows that
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: there are going to be some saturdays that we're going
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: to go into games and there's going to be a
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: more talented team on the other side, perhaps on their
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: first stringers or even second stringers or some of them
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: some mix. They'll just overall just maybe a click above
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: talent wise, that's going to happen sometimes, not all the time,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: but sometimes, and so he goes, Okay, if that's the case,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: then you got no shot. However, I think what he
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and his staff have done is they're going like, okay,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: what if we make sure that our twos and are threes.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: We put a little bit more time and money into
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: our twos and our threes so that as four quarters
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: of football transpire, if we are in fact in the
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: best condition, then our twos and threes will be able
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: to overcome their twos and threes and ones, because what
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: will happen is that fatigue sets in, right, and fatigue
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: makes cowards of everyone. And so the goal is because
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: as Brad just said, you play at a rate of
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: speed that is different than any other team that they're
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: going to play. That's that's the secret, sauce. Don't turn
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: it over, play very very quickly, and as it's a
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: game of attrition. You know, did you see those T
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: shirts that some of the staff had on today? Take
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: them to the deep end. So, in other words, you
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: know what you're trying to do right as the As
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the game goes on, you just keep bringing them farther
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: and farther and farther away from the shore. And then
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: when they get tired, what happens.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: They drowned.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: And that's basically the whole mentality of this team. I'd
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: be interested to knowing someone out there that's got some time.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Second half scoring for Rich Rodriguez teams, I think would
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: be a pretty interesting statistic, should be pretty significant that
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: he's outscoring people. I take a look at second halves
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: and then break it down third and fourth quarter. He
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: wears people down. I remember when he was at Jacksonville
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: State most recently, like the wall would collapse. The wall
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: would collapse, and they they'd go.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: On run yea.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: And so it's also why we'll get into this and
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: we'll talk about as you look at the biggest questions
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: heading into the season, a couple For me, it starts
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: with that offensive line. You just simply have to get
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: more first downs than you did last year. If that
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: theory is going to work, then you've got to keep
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: the ball moving. I'm I'm not plowing a new ground there.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: That's sorry. That's one of your obvious observations right there.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: You've got to move the change and West Virginia's did
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: not do that enough last year. So that line's going
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: to have to be able to move the pile, and
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: then you're going to have to be I think you
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: feel pretty good about Cam Cook in particular, Michael Hawkins,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: if he's the starter, if it's Scottie Fox, they have
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: got to be good and efficient at quarterback. And if
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: those two things are working in concert, add in then
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: the running back position and you're running the football. Now
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: the tempo can become an advantage that it just simply
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: wasn't last year because you couldn't get the offense on
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: track exactically exactly.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Rich had success here the first time because West Virginia
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: played unique and different, and now in order to have
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: excess again, he's gonna have to be unique and different
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: a couple of guys, that's what he's you gotta have great. Well,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: here's the one thing that doesn't separate. You always have
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: to have great players, and you're not going to be
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a great team until you get great players. You're not
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be a good team until you have all conference players.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: You're not going to have a team, a really good
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: team until you start seeing mock NFL drafts that say, hey,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: this player is going to be a second round this
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: player is gonna be You gotta have that. But then
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: if you're not going to have a bevy of those guys,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: then you need to have a sprinkling and then your
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: other guys have to be really really good. That's your new,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: that's your new, because you're not going to get selling property.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: You're not going to get six NFL draft players, Okay.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I mean we've had in the past. Get to that,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that point. But you're gonna have to
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: get a hell of a lot more than you've had.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Recently, because that would be more than zero. Yeah, exactly exactly.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: You ready for your thing?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Sure it's been a while, you sure you know how
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: to do this?
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: He's got thus that sound brand new things we already
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: knew bomb heaven knows.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I take it quick.
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: Before his livation, someone told me that your beer might
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: be making a special return.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Well, let's just don't get ahead of a head of yourself. There.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Remember that beer he had that kerchieve al.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Someone told me that.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just read it somewhere, maybe in Beer Weekly.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Obviously, what do you have longer Newsweek? I think had
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: it well, the patches.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I'm all in on the patches because and I hate
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: the term win win, but I think it is because
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: I said previously, is that WVU and Learfield get money.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: WVU needs the money you're gonna get.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: And you guys probably know and you can't say or
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: won't say, I understand that, but I think it was interesting.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: He said.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: The five year deal is north of eight million, probably
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: less than sixteen, so somewhere in there. But that's a
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: good chunk of money. That's found much new money as newlation.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: You're not in the league of like Ohio State right
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: reportedly got thirty twenty eighteen to twenty.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Mil seventeen for Ohio State, eighteen for Notre Dame reportedly,
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: But as Wren pointed out, that is an important distinction.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: There are some other things that are included in those packages.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: But for Notre Dame it's so fi technology but so
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: far has a market cap Tony of twenty four billion dollars,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: a pretty big company Ohio State, JP, Morgan Chase.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: You might have heard of them, see but again and
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: to point, there's a bunch of other things that are
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: included besides the patches, right, and as Wren said, this
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: is pretty much patches for West Virginia.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: So anyway, so it's a good revenue, it's a good
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: found revenue for schools and everybody.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Everybody's getting in on that.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: And Antaro, as I said, I think it's great for
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: them because as big as they are in their market
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: caps like eleven billion, but they are the primary natural
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: gas produce in this in this Marcella shale basin.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: And you just don't, I don't really know know much
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: about them, right, even.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Though they pay a bunch of property taxes, they pay
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: rights holders.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: So it's good, it's good for them. Uh. College chaos, Brad,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: college sports is in chaos. You might have you might
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: have heard that, heard that, heard that. So the judge's
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: decision out of Colorado, Colorado.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Judge Charlotte Sweeney an injunction against the nc DOUAA that
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: allows athletes who graduated high school in twenty twenty two
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: and previously exhausted their four years, now eligible for a
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: fifth year.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: But the NCAA is appealing that.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: So if you're a school or an athlete, Brad, you say, well, okay,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: let's get blow in here, or wait a minute, n
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: ca is gonna appeal it, or I mean, what.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Do you do?
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Well, that's that's the whole point. There's so there's so
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: much confusion. And that one was different because it encompassed
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: everybody in that class, right, wasn't just individuals. Now, just
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: earlier today before we went on Georgia, the state of
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Georgia just offered up an injunction as well to make
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: eligible thirty new college basketball players. So state by state,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: each time they keep going through, the courts are siding
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: with the players. The NCAA is still deciding to fight
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: this and is threatening and said has filed an appeal
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: in that Colorado case. So there's a lot of confusion,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: and I think that's what administrators like Ren said Rich
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: said it today Dur in the press conference. Let's just
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: get to what the rules are and we'll go from there.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: No one can identify what the rules are. Yeah, and
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: you mentioned below and you mentioned Javen Buchanan. Their cases
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: have been filed as well in federal court here Northern
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: District Judge Bailey's going to hear those. So that's part
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: of you. You don't know what's happening in Colorado. You
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: don't know if that's going to get overturned. So these
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: individuals are still pursuing their own cases as well.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you have you have roster limits, so
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: do you hold a space.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of schools that have, including West Virginia. Yeah,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: maybe I go back down the roster they have held one.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: It's not like this came totally out of the blue.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: There was a lot of schools that were planning on
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: this happening or becoming available. So there there are there's
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: multiple schools that have saved a roster spot.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, but it again you think all college sports
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: is in chaos. Oh, by the way, college sports isn't
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: chaos again? Be caught because of that. I think they
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: take your point on that real quick. Not to get
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: off on a total legal tangent. The bigger point there
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: is coming up with the dollars. Yeah, to go after
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: those guys.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Because so many teams have gone and they've already committed
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: right there what their internal cap was. Now, all of
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: a sudden, you get a whole new batch of guys
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: that a lot of them can help you, and now
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: you've got to go get some extra money that you
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: weren't necessarily planning on. To me, that's the bigger issue
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: than the roster limit.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: So that's that's going on the Protect College Sports Act.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: The latest on that is that you know that Bill
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: and I resented the fact so many people saying, ah,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: that Bill's dead, that's going nowhere. And then when the
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: sec in a big ten got some things they wanted,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: then the things started to move.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Boy, it was late. There was that was dead. It
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: was alive. It was dead, it was alive. That thing
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: was really really moving up and down, back and forth.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: And it's got I mean now it's it's it has moments.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: But you're coming up on the recess. The five week
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: August recess is coming up here Friday.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: So is there time now?
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: John Thune, the majority leader, has filed the culture motion,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: which means.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: That are a big word in sports. Now, all of
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: a sudden, cloture big had never brought up in sports
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: ever in one hundred years. Now, all of a sudden.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: It's in every article. You regard the clature.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: When you file for culture and you're going to vote
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: the culture means you're limiting in the Senate, you're limiting debate, so.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: You can't filibuster.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so you're limiting debate and then it takes
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: uh but to but to pass Culture, I think you
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: need sixty I think you need sixty votes to get
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: cloture and then that limits debate and then you could
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: have a vote, and then then it just needs a
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: simple majority.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: But you would think you would get the vote in
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: your favor. This is a bipartisan bill here, there's a
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: lot of peoples. It can't well now that now that
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: the Big ten and the sec have agreed, you're not
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: going to get those states senators balking at this. So
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: you would think that vote passes when it comes if
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: they unless they run out of time. You know, it's
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: not like the time.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: So we really need a five week vacation.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, but this isn't too old the docket. That's
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: the point of running out of time. This isn't And
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: it's not number one on the docket either.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: No, No, they got there's there's nominations they're dealing with.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: There's Russian sanctions, there's there's stuff, and it's not like
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: so it's possible, it's possible, But today's Wednesday, when we're
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: recording Friday, they're going to adjourn now, they can take
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: it up later.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: But the thing is hot right now. Oh it's hot. Okay.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: So anyway, I think that's fascinating and that and there
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: there are they're the there are the imperfect bread but
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: the set of conditions everybody's been looking for.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do find this fascinating down the road when
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: we come back and revisit this later, because I think
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: the concern for me would be, let me go two
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: fold here real quickly, we'll move back to football. First
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: and foremost everybody agrees you just heard Rid and say,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: there's got to be some sort of rule here. Every
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: everything is in chaos and it's escalating so quickly it
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: is going to get untenable understood, and you've got to
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: get guardrails. Here's guardrails being talked about again. You got
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: to put them in and you've got to actually follow
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: them this time. But the second part is this went
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: so down to the wire and so much pressure was
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: was being applied reportedly. You just wonder how many things
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: are in there that when you get down the road
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: to oh, well, is this where we wanted to be?
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: We didn't mean for that to add yes, yes, that
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: not to not to be Debbie down a rose, but
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: down the road. That's a little bit of a concern.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Brad.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: That's so that's a very valid point because when there
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: is that rush, you end up with what unintended consequences
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: things in there. They're like, got put in there to
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: get a vote that nobody really thought through.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: That can happen, okay, okay.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: But also because of that, Tony, you have schools that
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: now have to proceed kind of on two courses. Like
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: if the bill passes, will operate one way. If it
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: doesn't pass, we're operating another way. So they got to
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: kind of have parallel pass that they're thinking about if
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: this then this, but if this then this.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: And that's how the last three or four years have been.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: And I think that's that's the biggest source of fatigue.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Just what is it and then we'll adjust, stop with this.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: You don't know now it's this, now it's this.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Now, it's this.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Exactly in the meantime, Stanford football players have become the
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: first team to partner with the College Football Players Association,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: an association formed in twenty twenty one to empower college athletes,
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: give them more of a voice in decisions being made,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: and eventually Tony try to get to a point of
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: collective bargaining for players, But it starts with Stanford.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Yep, okay, And this thing won't resolve itself until you
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: get to that point.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Preseason college football polls, everybody's looking at them, usual suspects
• 46:27
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• 46:30
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• 46:36
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  Speaker 1: They have those leather visors that they're sitting back there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is, anyway, you don't need to do that.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody in any accounting office uses that. I don't even
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  Speaker 2: Is that what this says? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: No, I forgot we still had that one. No, that
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and no one come back with that of them.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna try try something new here for a few weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Instead am I turning my back on you to see
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  Speaker 4: my screen better. I'm gonna try and I'm gonna try
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  Speaker 4: and stay stranger. So I'm not turning my back on you.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: I trying to help you out. So I dove into
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: some different things. What does happear over the spreads on
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: stats hiatus? Just trying to look for some things. We're
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: not into game action yet, we're not in scouting reports,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: so just try to do some big pictures stuff.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: So the first thing I jumped into was how many
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: times has West Virginia won more than two games additional
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: from the previous season?
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, follow me there kind of.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: Went back over some history, so I tried to I
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: had to make some cutoff point there. So I started
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: it when West Virginia started joining when they joined the
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: league in the ninety one season. Okay, so how many
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: times from the ninety one season through now has West
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: Virginia increased its win total by two or more games?
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: So you're talking thirty plus years.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Thirty five seasons, right, It's only happened eight times, eight
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: times West Virginia has increased its win total by two
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: were more nineteen ninety two to ninety three, went from
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: five to eleven, ninety five to ninety six, five to eight,
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: ninety nine to two thousand, four wins to seven wins
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: one to two Riches first year, first round, three to
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: three to nine, big jump, four to five, Rich again
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: eight to eleven, twenty thirteen to twenty fourteen, four wins
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: to seven wins, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen eight wins to
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: ten wins, and twenty twenty two to twenty three five
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: wins to nine wins. So eight times in the thirty
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: five years, Riches had two of those eight. Most recent
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: was twenty two to twenty three. I don't know if
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: that tells us anything hop except that it's harder. We
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: always just say, oh yeah, just win more games, go
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: win eight this year. It's hard season to season to
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: get those big jumps. So I think that's one thing
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: that maybe just caution here, like when you have these expectations,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: what would what would a good season two be? After
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: the four wins you had last season, that's where I started.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: So I think I think that's a good. That is
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: a good. I don't know exactly what it. That's a
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: good perspective on as you said, the difficulty in winning.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: And also if you go from four wins and you say,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: okay two or you get two more wins, that's a
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: fifty percent increase.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So and you get to seven and there hasn't
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: been many times when you've gone through up three. So
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: that's where I would just maybe caution that you this automatic.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Hey let's jump to eight or nine. Those are hard
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: to do and those those don't happen very often.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting exercise, but it has lost its base
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I think for statistical viability because of.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: The transfer portal.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Like in each of those years that you pointed out right,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: you didn't have the fluidity of roster movement. Now that
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: may be a good thing or a bad thing.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: That's what I was going to say. I don't know
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: that that tells you if it's easier or harder exactly
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: to do that.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what I mean. I don't know that
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: it means anything. It probably doesn't mean anything at all
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: except my conclusion to it's hard to do that, it's
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: hard to have. Yeah, that was what I jumped. So,
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: so then that led me into all right, from year
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: one to year two with a new coach, what have
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: we seen there in terms of increases and wins and
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: same thing. I didn't go all the way back to
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Ira rat Rodgers or Greasy Neil, I use it. I
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: just went to kneeling.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Well, Don went like six to nine or very good.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: Sonielan goes six to nine from his year one to
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: year two. Rich version one went from the three to
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: nine we just talked about. Stu went from nine very
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: good first year to nine the second year. Dana went
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: from ten his first year inherited that great roster to seven.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: He decreased then he went to four after that, so
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: it was a two year pretty big slide before the
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: thing righted back. Going the other way. Neil went from
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: five in his first year to six in his second year.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: So what does Rich do going from four to next?
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: Dana is the only coach since Neil and then went
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: backwards in year two, and the average gain of those
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: coaches from year one to year two has been one
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: point four wins. Now, Dana crushed the average. If you
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: take Dana out of it, it was an average of
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: two and a half win jump from year one to
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: year two. So again, if you're back into that thinking,
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: West Virginia gets to six or seven, which isn't too
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: far off from what the win total in Vegas has
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: been put at. That's probably a realistic what history tells
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: you since coach Nieland, the jump from one to two
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: has been Rich obviously was a statistical outliner there with
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: his massive jump from three to one the first time around. Again,
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know that that tells you anything either, but
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: I think you can expect an increase in wins. It's
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: just a number of how many that's going to be.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: It's really good, it is.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Again, like you said, you don't know what the perspective
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: is just, but from a historical perspective, basically your first
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: number was less than twenty five percent of the time
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: has a coach improved by two or more wins?
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Right, But the average in coaches since Nieland from one
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: to two is a game and a half, and that's
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: including Dana gone three backwards.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think five and a half wins this year
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: would sit well.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, i'd take the over on that.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: I think I think this gets to at least six.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: You know what.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: We don't want to get into that because we're going
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: to do that later. Right, I don't know, probably number
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: wins probably, but Phil Steele has them at what fifty seven,
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: it's power ranking something like that, fifty seven.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and That's part of what Rich alluded to that
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: you look at the national reporting on this and listen,
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: I don't expect a lot of national guys to get
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: down in the weeds and find out what West Virginia's
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: offensive line looks like. I think they have all underrated
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: West Virginia quite a lot. I mean, again, it's eighty
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: new players. It's it's in the top two or three
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: schools with new players again this year. And how do
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: you how do you rank teams normally? Yeah, it's by
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: returning players. So I don't know that I'm putting a
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: lot of stock in what some of the national numbers
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: are saying.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Yet not there?
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: All right, a couple more are you ready?
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: Mentioned tempo earlier, Tony. We have that whole discussion about
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: how Rich wants to go fast, but the offense has
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: to get better. If it does, you're playing more people.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: You're attempting to wear teams out. This is from Pro
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: Football Focus, an interesting article about the pace of teams
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: last year. The Mountaineers mathematically were the fastest team in
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: FBS football last season, average nineteen point three seconds remaining
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: on the play clock across over nine hundred snaps. They
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: were third in tempo play percentage at forty two percent.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: Just six and a half percent of West Virginia's snaps
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: came with fewer than ten seconds left on the play clock.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, six and a half percent fewer than
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: ten seconds compared to the FBS average of thirty three percent.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: So this is this is fast. You know you want
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: to run fast, but you've got to be better in
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: order for the dividends. That's plus, that's the plus minus, right,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: that could have been your obvious observation there, but that's
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: that's the difference this year. That line has to be better.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: The quarterback position has to give you more, and that
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: has to get better. Ole Miss is a pretty good
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: example of where I think he would.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Like to be with this.
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: They had the fifth fastest tempo overall. They were sixth
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: in tempo play percentage. How many players were run under
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: a fast tempo, But they had the highest offensive grade
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: from PFF when playing at tempo. So that would be
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: my last year's ole Miss team is where you're trying
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: to get if you're if you're rich this.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Season and you really want to get into the manutia
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: of those numbers. If things go well, West Virginia will
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: actually slow down in the fourth quarter because hopefully they'll
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: have the lead. And that's when Rich puts both of
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: his feet down on the brake and then slows the
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: thing down from going warp speed to just grinding out clock.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: That's how he wins games. He takes you to the
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: deep end and and he drowns you. And so you'll see.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: But we haven't had that opportunity year one because they
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: didn't have the lead.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: You just and you just obvious observation.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: What kills you on that and you know this is
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: that you get the ball on your own twenty seven
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: pass incomplete run to yard gain third and eight, you know,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: gain five, and you used a minute.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: Probably not even that's why I got even use a
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: minute based on numbers, that's what kills you, right mathematically,
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: All right, let me give you one more. And this
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: ties in with this whole discussion we're having about offensive
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: line improvement leads to better OFFENSEI leads to faster tempo.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: West Virginia last year was sixth worst nationally in the
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: rate of gaining three or more yards before contact. So
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: when they would run the football, how many times did
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: they get three or more yards before the first contact came.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: Just twenty one percent of West Virginia's carries gained three
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: plus yards before contact, six worst nationally. So something to
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: watch that needs to get better, obviously if it does.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: You're playing three teams this season, and again, now what
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: does this mean because all these rosters are different too,
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: especially this first one. But you're playing three teams Iowa State, Cincinnata,
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: TCU that were in the bottom five of the Big
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: twelve in that stat in yards before contact allowed. So
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: three teams that really struggled getting a hat on the
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: ball early. So West Virginia can get some early push there,
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: maybe you have a chance. Each of those teams hop
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: allowed three more yards per rush on thirty percent of
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: its opponents.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Was I State able? Were they able to put together
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: a roster?
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: That's per Sports Info slitt.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Don't taunt them until you beat them. Once we beat them,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: then we'll taunt them. Okay, don't say anything yet because
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: they'll come back and bite us football karma.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Just so there we go. I got a couple more,
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: but I'll say when we got a lot of show.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Those are good.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: Get you started.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Those are good early first day practice stats.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Though, he's kind of getting warmed up. It's been a
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: while since he had to get into his incubator over
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: there and doing numbers. One more Rich SoundBite, Sure, one
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: more rich SoundBite. I'll focus on the quarterback Michael Hawkins
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: and running back Cam Cook friends of this program, right,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: they both said down with us? Uh, here is Rich
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: earlier today asked about a potential comparison. The last time
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Rich was here had a great tandem. Obviously Pat White,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: now they're going to retire his number and Steve Steve
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Slayton's in the College Football.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: Two pretty good ones.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Pretty good. He was asked, Okay, any similarities comparison to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Michael Hawkins and Cam Cook.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Here's Rich Holeously.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: You know, Pat came in red shirt a year, so
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: he had a year to kind of learn before he played.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: And Stevie was a true freshman, and he was just
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: a freaky speed guy. I mean it was so fast
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: that he uh, once he learned it, you know, he
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: was gonna good. But it was kind of a unique
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: coming to those guys were probably the two fastest guys
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: on the team, and Mike's probably one of the fastest.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: Cam Is can run, but he's a camp The best
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: thing about Cam he has.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: A great feel.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: For the position, whether it's past protection, running routes where
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: he's supposed to press on the whole and all that
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: kind of stuff. He's so he he's an experienced football player,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: but he's almost He's a freshman, a rookie in our system,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: and so is Mike. So it's both There's they have
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: not played a game for westrog Gin yet, and so
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: I got to remind myself, Hey, listen, they've got some
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: experience at this level, but they haven't played for West
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: Virginia yet. But we're going to force feed him because
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: I think both of those guys are good.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Players to cohort.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: A little bit.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: He's probably closer to Avon than than Stevie or Quincy
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: or or one of those guys, or Noel. You know,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: he's he's he's kind of more got like the Avon
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: So because Avon was just a really good football player
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: in all aspects, all those guys were. We've always had
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: great backs here, but Cam and we got some young guys.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: I really think we're going to be pretty exciting to watch.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: But Cam is the leader of the group and he's
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: got a great feel for already for what we're doing.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: You go.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: You know, Avon didn't have the Slayton speed, he didn't
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: have the Quincy Wilson. You know, run over a guy
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: by the way. He got five k he got five
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: thousand yards.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: Because he just you just had all one hundred times
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: and he'd gained four, then he'd gained seven, then he
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: gained thirteen, then he gained four. He just constantly keep coming.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: The thing that jumped to me there on that quote
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: was kind of what I think all three of us
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: walked away when Cam Cook got done. It was like
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: talking to a pro when he was in here like
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: that wasn't like a college kid like, oh, I hope
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: things go well this year. Like that, dude was dialed in,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: knew his numbers, knew what was going on, and Rich
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: kind of backs Thatt up with his He knows everything
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: about playing the position. So I'm excited to watch Cam
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: behind that rebuilt offensive line this year.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: If you're a regular listener viewer, we had Michael Hawkins,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: we had Cam Cook, and we had Jade Bray on
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: the podcast this summer, and in each of those interviews
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: we talked about barbecue. They said they had not gotten
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: good barbecue really yet here in West Virginia. We said,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: we've got some for you from our good buddy Revkev
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: at Revkev's Barbecue. And I do want to inform our
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: listeners that each now have had Revkev's barbecue and it
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: was complete thumbs up, absolutely loved it and said it
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: lived up to the hype. They were really really happy
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: with that. May have been some some additional styrofoam taken
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: when they were done eating. Yes, they packed up like mules.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: We still own Nick Crayson from his appearance here right
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: we say we're gonna fed him.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Talked to Nick a short little conversations his dad, his dad,
• 1:03:18
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Brad. They're coming up on textual. Hell, let's
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  Speaker 1: It's only Thursday. We're gonna open up things at Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: of the weekend sun christ Town Center. We'll do a
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  Speaker 2: We'll just have fun.
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  Speaker 1: Friday are three Guys Food Court once again, located just
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  Speaker 1: right there at Daniel's Men's Shop on University Avenue. He
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  Speaker 1: did a new job with the facade there in the
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  Speaker 4: There's been some renovations, just like the Tarmac project the coliseum,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: Daniels Phil has undergone some yeah construction as well.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll do that Friday night and then Saturday the
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  Speaker 1: an early game, so you're gonna have to get there,
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  Speaker 1: always efforting. It's good food, it's great people. It's three
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  Speaker 1: guys before the game. Future schedules. Well, also, we're going
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  Speaker 2: Two win.
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  Speaker 1: Are we going to Charleston? We now we're going to Clarksburg.
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  Speaker 4: We gotta, we gotta, we gotta think.
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  Speaker 1: Not sure if anyone has let you know this, but
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  Speaker 1: this is wild. When my wife and I were heading
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  Speaker 1: to Somersville recently, we noticed the Powell Mountain goat evidently
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  Speaker 1: had a baby.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, is that right? Got a picture of this
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: on the way home to see there it is.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: There's the big goat and the baby goat happy on
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  Speaker 2: There it's Austron.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: This is an interesting tib it kind of a spreads
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: on stats thing. Texter wrote that, I'd like to share this.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of Mountaineer fans talking about both
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Scotty Fox and Mike Hawkins playing this season. How about
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: this stet Rich rod is forty eight and fourteen when
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: he uses a single quarterback forty eight and fourteen, that's
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: seventy seven percent win. And he's seventeen and twenty nine
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: when he uses multiple quarterbacks and heavy rotation, and.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: He has four wins when he used six uses six quarterbacks.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so something to keep in mind. Texter wrote this,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you have your members, but you guys do
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: so much to brighten up the lives of so many.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: And then he gave us a Helen Keller quote. Joy
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: is the holy fire that keeps our purpose warm and
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: our intelligence aglow. Joy nice And that brought something back
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: to me from your trip to Omaha, Hopey, when you
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: you discovered joy joy?
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't discover Joey. No, you were no.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: No, you discovered joy for the first time in my life.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: He might be right on that one.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Now you discovered joy for the first time.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: What is this thing?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: You had this epiphany? You had this epiphany, he said,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: I've got this warm, fuzzy feeling. I I don't know
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: what it is. I think it's joy. I've never had
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: this before.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: It might be more truth to that than I want
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: to win. Texter.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Are the three Guys golf shirts that Brad wore on
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: the interview with President Bentson available for purchase.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: It's a good question. I thought there was a version
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: of the Peter Malar Three Guys on episode eight hundred
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  Speaker 4: dot com.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, effort that take a look or if he needs,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: called Daniels and just tell Phil what you want. Phil's
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: got like he's got just people making clothes.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: Are coming on Tuesday when I'm working my shift. I'll
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: help you.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Dom from Smither's.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: Shirt, I puts new shirt out this week.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Oh really, what was it? What was it?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: I see it's on online. Daniel Moore Town, New Westford
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: Ininishire football specific.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: You know, our buddy Mike Pouncy visited Daniels. He lives
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: in Florida, a huge Mountaineer fan, comes up for almost
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: every game, and so he went to Daniels. But then
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: he came to practice today and he had a friend
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: with him named Lenny. So I'm talking to Lenny. Lenny
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: lives down the same street as Mike down there in Florida.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: But Lenny was up here because he's judging a national
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: diving competition over at the pool. Really, so I start
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: talking to Lenny. Everyone's got a story in their life. Yes,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: everyone's got a story. I'm talking to Lenny. I said, hey, Lenny,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm jacking with him a little bit.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Of course you are.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I say, Lenny, Uh, you ever have anyone do a
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: belly flop when you're judging? He's a national judge. He goes, yeah, occasionally,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: it'll happen. It'll happen. I said, you you give many
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: tens out? He goes, no, very very rarely do I
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: get ten z out? And I said, h to the
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: guy that was next to him, Jake from the MAC.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: I said, Jake, now would you jump off the high board?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, I think I would go straight downs?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: I said, like, how would you? I said, what's the
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: best way to do that? If I jumped off? Like
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: you make yourself a pencil and you just go straight down?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: I said, how deep? And he goes yeah. And then
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: he gives me this one. Because everyone's got a story.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Lenny was a diver Okay Olympic level, competed against Greg Luganis.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: He said, when he was in competition with Luganis, he
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't I mean, he knew he was. The best he
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: was going to do was second or third. Then he
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: hit me with this one. He said, Me and my
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: wife used to work diving, did a thing for marine Land.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Marine land, you know, would jump off a seventy foot
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: platform into an eight foot tank of water. Oh my gosh,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: seventy feet into an eight foot circumference.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: That's a quick turn you got to make when you
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: hit the water.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Quick turn, That's what he told me. He said, when
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: your feet make contact, you immediately have to explode your
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: limbs out so that you don't break your legs.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Lenny, l I feel like jelly just from hearing
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: that story.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, jumped off a seventy you would jump seventy feet
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: platform into an eight foot tank of water.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty wild that he went head to head against Louganis.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: And that was the second most interesting thing he told you.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Lenny's one of the good ones man. Uh, Texter, what
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: was his last name? I don't know. I just go
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: first names.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Hopey.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get too personal. Take their joy
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: from them.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Lenny.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: He was a former University of Miami diving coach, I believe.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: So you might have looked at up Lenny the diving coach.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: This textter said, I'm getting ready for some football. So
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: they got the coal there at the stadium, like me.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: They got a couple of dogs guarding the coal.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: They're good dogs. They are nice puppies right there.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those are good little puppies. They're watching the col
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Lenny Leyland. Was he a diving coach?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Me?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, Lenny seven times? I'm all American diver at the
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: University of Miami.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Here he was. That's him, dude? Is that him? He
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: wasn't look like that.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: Was swimming outfit today?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Well, dude, it's probably him. How many Lenny's to dove
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: at Miami?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: But I'm saying the picture was like from thirty years old.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well's Lenny doesn't dive anymore.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be showing me a picture from him on
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: the board.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he could maybe go to creps and get a
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: couple of bounces in and go into the water.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Ain't diving off. I'm watching one of his dives right now.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: This was a good one. Here your attention.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Please stop. Now what you send me? You send me
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: down a rabbit hole. Now I can't get out.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Well, I know that hoppy, but I mean you're there's
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: also such teacher in first grade called self control.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, with five minutes just wait, okay, great, I'm
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: sorry this is neat one. Guys.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Since bowlding is sometimes mentioned on your show, I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to give a shout out to my dad, Carl Mariotti Junior,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: who was just inducted into the West Virginia Bowling Hall
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: of Fame this past week in Parkersburg. He is the
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  Speaker 1: owner of Mountaineer Bowl Lanes in Bluefield. Also, after listening
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: to the show, I was able to find the courage
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: to smuggle in some Amalfi lemons from my trip to
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Italy last month. Love the show, so you go. There's
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: some pictures. So that is the award they presented to
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Carl when he got into the Bowling Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 4: And then congratulations Carl.
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  Speaker 2: Here comes there is.
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  Speaker 1: Carl holding said presentation at the ceremony. So congratulations Bowling
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And then here are the illegal lemons.
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  Speaker 2: This is the illegal. This is you.
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  Speaker 4: You've encouraged this on this program. You have done this.
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  Speaker 4: How do you get my customs?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We snuck some we were in We went to France
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: this summer and we snuck in some sunflower seeds and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: they today literally the blossom bloomed today. Got a beautiful
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: French sunflower.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Trying to think of who to alert on that is that.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: A commissioner, I don't care, Come get me sunflowers.
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  Speaker 2: Come on here, got you now gonna come on this
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  Speaker 2: way here.
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  Speaker 4: He's going to get a call from Joan that the
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  Speaker 4: inspector shows up there clipping their sunflowers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, State egg commissioner.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, bring it, buddy, I got a French sunflower.
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  Speaker 1: NCAA finally getting it together to do.
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  Speaker 2: That's fringe for you.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: N Cuba finally getting it together, they suspend Tennessee's linebacker
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: for a four hundred and twenty seven dollars plane ticket,
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  Speaker 1: which he paid back. I did, That's which he paid back.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: It's Randy. That's Randy and Missouri City who just loves
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: to uh to hate the NCAA's that's last one, Tony.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: This is just for you and the gang as a
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: further reminder what the school means to people. This school,
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia tomorrow in Sacramento, California. Our guy, Charles Wesley
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  Speaker 1: Godwin going to be here. I've got the whole family going.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'll rock my Jack Sanders Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: Why not excellent.
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  Speaker 1: I am not from West Virginia, but grateful for the
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  Speaker 1: four years I spent there, and twelve years later, my
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  Speaker 1: pride and appreciation stronger than ever. I'm excited to sing
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  Speaker 1: country roads and celebrate Charles's success with all the mountaineers
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  Speaker 1: out here in California. And I appreciate everything you guys do.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Let's go so Chuck Awesome Hoppy. Have you listened to
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  Speaker 2: I don't have Ancord.
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  Speaker 1: Streaming audio hoppy, Why do you bring the record player up,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: second show in a row. Why are you bringing the
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  Speaker 1: record player up the.
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  Speaker 4: Same thing to you?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: You listened to it. It was a record, you're all right,
• 1:15:27
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  Speaker 1: you can listen to the album.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we didn't say we didn't go there. You were
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  Speaker 4: asking if we listen. We were talking about the gift
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• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: For a record player, what a term. Hey, he has
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: a record player.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: You've taken my joy from me when I was.
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• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: like a turntable and.
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  Speaker 3: An amp and a thing and expiguators and then have
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  Speaker 3: like six pieces of equipment. I just need like this
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• 1:17:18
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• 1:17:21
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  Speaker 4: All right, Time to wrap it up on that.
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  Speaker 1: We're done special thanks to our producer Jake. Have yourself
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: a wonderful, wonderful rest of your day. We're back again
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: next week. Getting you're ready for DOUBLEV football. Stay well,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: We'll see y'all, yeah,