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Episode 246: Phantoms (SG-A 9.09) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Word bitch was like a motherfucker. All right, did you get Brennan's uh
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approval to play some ben Affleck there that was technically a Jay and Sulent Bulb
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clip. I get it, but it's Ben Affleck, right, Am I
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going to talk about that? You're the one that one to record say you
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want to climb him like a tree? So I feel like I'm finding Ben
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Affleck like a tree. Yeah, I don't remember that, but I don't
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deny that absolute possibility. That's what I'm saying. I'm happy for that to
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be on my record in regards to his Bruce Wayne, you said I would
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climb that man like a tree. I mean, he does look like he's
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built, pulled ties like you guys missed me or something. Yeah, ironically
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you're talking more about it than like the length of the actual clip, right,
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Okay, So I just I don't know. I was listening to the
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podcasts the other day and there's just some nice things said about me, which
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is strange. It was really weird. I have I can't say them to
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you. I appreciate it. I can't say them to you to think I
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was going to quit or something. A short one and a longer one.
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I think it's the first one. Could be man, the short the short
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one's good. I like the ship the long one. Do the long one.
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That's what she said, Yeah, do the long one first. Mitch,
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get that right into me when he first walks through. We don't know
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any different other than that's Rodney McKay or another one. A cool leather jacket.
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He has a cool leather jacket. Jacket. It says the jacket,
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which is nice. You know. I'm the only one that that And I
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missed that completely on the day. It was very subtle, even when I
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was editing and I'm like, who said that? Was that? Oh shit?
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It was me, Like and I don't even really get the reference,
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like I know that, like it's I know where it's Seinfeld, That's what
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I know it from, but I don't know in one context. So that's
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why I was asking, did you guys miss me? Because then there was
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this the next one and the last one, I'm really upset, bra,
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what's the name again? So close? So close? Played again? Yeah?
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And the last one, I'm really upset, brain, what's the name
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again? Wow? All the actual nice things we said, That's what makes
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me such a great interviewer. When I do interview people, but I just
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don't listen to what they say. I know what I'm going to ask next,
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because I'm already I'm already worried that I'm going to stuff that up.
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I don't need to be thinking on the fly about what you're saying that would
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make me an actual I don't know a good operator at my job, and
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that's not what I'm That's not what I'm here for. Witch and talking about
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Maddie. Some amazing things that you said on the podcast dissing Taylor Swift.
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Oh I've already had some dms. Oh my god, it would you care
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about Taylor Swift? I love swift Y Okay, name one of her songs
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shake it Off? Okay? And what album is that from? I don't
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know the answer to those things. I'm right, you've got a ten year
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old daughter, dad, Yeah, that's right. I've got the super Bower
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damn it. Well, the thing is we come back. It was around
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about the Christmas mark I want to say, and uh, yeah, I
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want that first one back in from the New Year or something. And I
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don't even know how we it was off air, it was off the mic
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and something come up about Taylor Swift. I mean we're walking through a commercial
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radio station. She was probably playing on the speakers, and then you started
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talking about her, Brent and was like, oh man, you can't deny,
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like you know, what a power, what a juggernaut she is.
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And I'm like, okay, here we go, and there's the bunch.
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I'm like, holy shit, like you just go like it was. It
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was at that level. And I remember coming in. I was actually talking
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about it on my show. I said, such is the power, I
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said. I was with two people that couldn't give two ships about Taylor Swift,
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and even they were like, God, damn it, you can't deny
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the great year she's having twenty twenty three, and you can't. You got
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FIRS tour spreading about it. Hearing though, and it's a very different and
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Cheerin's releases same album seven times in a row. Thanks Ed, I cannot
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tell you. Get in the Gate episode two hundred and forty six, talking
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Stargate at lundis three of the ogs. Here, guys, it's me Mitch,
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it's Maddie say Hi, Hi, hey, and he's back hey mate.
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Runder made them feeling good, feeling fearless, bewildered, all of the
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above. It's having film my wildest dream. I'm back. He look a
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little red? Yeah, oh so wow? Yeah, I got sunburnt today
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watching my daughter play against my old school. Oh really, this is really
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weird. It read as in, that's a Tayle Swift song. But I
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was just as I didn't know that one. Sorry sounds dangerous. You know
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what that might be an album? I don't know. I was about to
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hit the Austin House button that says do I make you morning? Then you
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mentioned your daughter, So I'm like, nope, I thought you realize you're
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playing Brad not like what I just I feel bad now that like you would
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genuinely think that you're like you're like laying them up. You're just doing that
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thing that we do at the end of it. And I was went,
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hey, you look a little bit sunburn. Bro it's that was Don't blame
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me though, blame the sun. I was a little I didn't do this
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to myself. God. Yeah, playing against against your old my old school,
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yeah. Karma College, yeah, brock on, come off a life,
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Maddie, nothing okay and heard of Calma College, Maddie. Great people
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you may have heard it on several episodes of Getting the Gate. I missed
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Craig. I know, I said, I wasn't going to do a six
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minute intro. It was meant to be a funny little thing. But here
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we go. We're back. People Look at I mean, I've had to
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the guts out of this people. Look at this guy. What are you
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talking about? We're just over three. I mean, they'd be so hard
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on yourself when I when I texted Craig that we were recording, and I
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said, we're recording about half an hour. Sorry I didn't give you more
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heads up. He's like, I probably need more than about half an hour.
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And I literally said, that's Colma boys for you. Yeah, well,
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really mean when you said boys, get to say that's just Mitch.
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I believe, I said, lads. I believe said calm of lads.
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Well accept lads. Yeah. Well, I mean not to not to be
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totally selfish about this episode, but Mattie, you you set me up last
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week's I think we're talking fanoms. I mean so much so that we had
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to cut like a full sixteen minute bit out of the main pod for just
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heavily masturbating you go to heavy fandom a little bit. Yeah, that's that's
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that's in the Patreon cut and look, you know we we're yeah, you
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know, And I said that to that at the very end of it,
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I said, only Patreon. I had to suffer through this. But you
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know, we had a total of one person right back and say, absolutely,
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Mitch, bring back the Fantom. So one percent of the comments on
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that little little extra agreed with me, and being one doesn't matter. One's
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better than that, Isn't it? Isn't it? That's modern journalism. Only
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focus on the facts that matter to the story that you're telling. Okay,
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but we are talking phantoms for Stargate Atlanta. We got the Phantom theme,
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which like this is I think we can asks. I only have it for
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another show that we're not talking about today. But oh you got thank you?
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Yeah, good, good, fab and Prime because when when you're gone
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the other week, we're going to bloody IMDb and it's terrible. Craig add
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it up. That's right, And Craig pulled it up and it was like
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it was too long. We went from having a too short version on IMDb
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a really long version. Well, you were going to make him too happy?
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You two just combined, just said, Craig got it up. But
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it was too long, it was too big. He's going to be once
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again, Craig only highlight the words of that sentence that you like, put
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them together and make that your opinion. Is going to have to give the
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handy that he was angling for. Well, mate, I've already told you
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he owns guns. Oh no one else does. All right, here we
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go. Major Leonard's team fails to check in with Atlantis while on a mission
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Bloody Leonard following the energy readings in hope of finding Major Leonard and his men,
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Bloody Leonard McKay leads the team into a cave to discover that the cause
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of the energy spike is a WRAITHH generator. Great work, Prime, great
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people. Yeah, it's better you know. It takes you up a mountain
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and lets you peek over the cliff, doesn't spoil anything for you, sets
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up everything we learned in the first eight minutes, right, brilliant stuff.
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I ruined this episode immediately, ironic ironically, apologies to three Star. Yeah
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it's a yes, was eight minutes in. Was about the time I picked
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up my phone? Yeah yeah, no, Actually, three Star taking I
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was, you know, you know what I was doing, winking it over
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the phantom. No, but I was wearing a skull ring. No,
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I was watching this on a laptop while doing the dishes. Yeah, your
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skull cough reading, No, just to skull ring. It adds a little
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bit. It adds a little bit of extra friction. Oh right. It
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feels like it's like teeth without actually needing you know. Yeah, okay,
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ye, yeah, a little bit teas alright. So here, Yeah,
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this episode for us brendon quickly. I mean, this whole episode could have
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been avoided if they just took a puddle jumper m I mean, this whole
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episode could have been avoided if the writers went we probably do better. Maybe
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maybe we should take another pass on this one. Yeah. I felt a
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little bit of that, well, a little bit of that a lot of
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the episode where I'm like Madie, really like, I know, you're only
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like, hey, phantoms and that was like where it began and ended.
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But I was still like, this kind of mean, what does phantoms mean?
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Right? Ghosts? So as a viewer, you already know what it's
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going to be about. Yeah, Well, having said that, as someone
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who's seen the whole season. I always get this confused with one of my
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more favorite episodes this season, Echoes, which is the one after the mid
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season two part, and this is the one before the mid season two part,
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So it's always until when the episode opens up, I'm like, is
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it gonna be? Oh, it's not the good one. I don't know
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if it was for me the fact that there was and not that I'm as
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simple to it. Maybe i am, but not in a sense that I'm
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as simple to it. I need to see a physical bad guy, but
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the fact that there was. It was just like the lingering effects of something
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that's there, Like it was, and I know that we've seen that in
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SG one there's been a device that's there, but at least like when the
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device sort of affects one of the team and then they carry that on and
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it's like the trouble that ensues back home or something. I feel like,
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I don't know, maybe it struck me different. Maybe it was different because
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it was the first time we'd seen it. Whereas here as they go somewhere,
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Hey, something bad happened to these guys. Hope it doesn't happen to
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us. Oh damn, it's happening to us, hope it doesn't kill us,
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it might and then like it I thought. What I thought was weird
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is if you actually look at the episode as a whole. So the premise
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is the Wraith decided to invent some tech to help them improve their spooky powers.
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That then the Jeni. At some point the Raith abandoned it, the
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Jeni found it and with it and then killed themselves over whatever. But neither
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of them were in the episode. You don't see a single ray or live.
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You see a Jeni, you know corpse, which you know, Beckett
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very handly goes, oh he's been dead for months, and you know McKay
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is like, really thanks. What did he say after that? He goes,
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no, really charming? Yeah, oh McKay like from going from missus
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sorry McKay and missus Miller. That was the last Atlantis episode, right where
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come? The end of it was character growth. You know what, maybe
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I can be a little better. There's a version of me that everybody loves.
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And in the end it was like, well that guy had some like
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things that weren't to like his benefit, but also I know I can be
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a better person, and you know, in the end, if I can
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just be leaven a little bit of a better brother and a better uncle and
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a better brother in law to that guy that I you know, I don't
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care about him, it doesn't matter. But you're like, maybe a little
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bit of growth. Now. We don't want to see a complete change,
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because that's what we love about McKay. But his first two maybe even three
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lines or exchanges with differentferent characters in this episode, in the first five minutes
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alone, I'm like, you're an asshole, and I don't I'm not even
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that upset about it, but I'm like, what was the point of last
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week? Why do we even tease that you could change? When you it's
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almost like you're going out of your way to make up for the lost night
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you were nice last week. He's the personification of like two steps forward,
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one step oh my god, yes, two steps forward, one step back.
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By the end of season five, he'll actually be a decent human being.
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Pro right, Okay, Well, but then if they were to bring
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the show back and like, hey, we're going to give it a six
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thies and they're like, now we get a reset MAKA back to like mid
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season four, and that's for sure, especially for that gratuitous ask grabbing that
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he does with Carter what me too back in the old days. But I
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wanted to share my first experience of watching this episode. It seems like a
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stupid episode, and it is. It's lame, but I was watching it
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with the great friend of the show and guest host jobs. First time we
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watched this, we were watching it with what we do usually we have a
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few drinks, well we did back then. Then we watch that could get
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that that's set up. There could set up a myriad of things. It
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could we're watching, say we're watching a movie, or anyone anyone who says
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I woke up brush my teeth, that's because of what Brandon just said.
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Sorry I interrupted. When we watch a show or a movie together, we
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give at least one character in the show or movie a subplot that's never been
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mentioned by any character. I like those, but you know when our subplot
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meets the main story arc. Say if the guy where like he has a
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fixation on harmonicas and then randomly just he picks up a harmonica and we're like,
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oh, it's like a touchdown. We won. We won the sub
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places when people they're watching the Hunger Games and they hold up Peter bread to
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Peter and like turns around and actually so in this episode, we gave doctor
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Beckett a kink similar to what we gave with Hammond. Is it necrophilia?
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Close ish in the ballpark, Doctor Beckett has a kink similar to what we
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we gave to Hammond with his self destruct Remember Hammond gets rock hard on that,
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So here Beckett, this is Beckett's kink. He collects shoes from every
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patient, from every patient that dies on this on his table. So when
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he's nursing them sounds very very kinky, nursing them medically or nursing them breastfeederly
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way medically. Oh yeah, he gets off on like he tries his very
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very very best to save them, but when he doesn't, he takes shoes.
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Takes their shoes like a trophy. That's that's a that's a weird thing
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to give someone, right, do you know? I actually that's around there.
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If you go back to it now and you watch the whole episode and
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you just see like he never grabs the shoes. Yeah, but from now
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on he just had a shoe. I would almost want to go one level
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higher, maker and he wants to like collect them, just the shoe laces,
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because that's like a whole extra step. But it's funny web, some
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kind of weed, some kind of crazy. Yeah, And he can bucket
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them like smuggle from people's just like rubs in between the index finger. And
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he's the failure. He's the face the smell of failure. I love it.
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I love it. I want a pair of kinky boots, so they
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need and I walk past the strip club every night just in case this strip
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of their needing medical attension, and hopefully I do say it. I will
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to say it a bit. If she doesn't, I get those weak kinky
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boots. He pretends the fates from the Hercules movie, and he gets He
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gets the shoelaces, and he cuts them when they do so weirdly though,
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That's why I love this episode. It sucks, but we get kinky boots.
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It is so weird that that was your thing for this, because I
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have lived that experience. So when I was working at this very radio station
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you killed a ago, that was just last week. There are sex worker
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until they're dead, and then they're a hooker because you don't say dead sex
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worker wrapped up in a rug in my boot dead hooker wrapped up in a
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rug in my boot, because is that when you pay them obviously? Yeah.
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No. So when I was working at this very radio station, many
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many moons ago on like the street, and we had to be like to
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be these this fun little group of people and you could like go out and
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do things and be like, hey, come and check out this thing.
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It's really fun way here. So we were doing that for I believe it
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was a bank or something like running. It was like Drive Safe Month or
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whatever it was called, right, and we were encouraged me to come down
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to like the city center and come and do some fun stuff with this and
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like pledge to like drive safe for the month. Blah blah blah. We
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get on site, there's a giant inflatable car that they want everyone to sign
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as their pledge to like, you know, drive safe. But then surrounding
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the car is like five hundred pairs of empty shoes to signify every person who
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died on the roads in this state that year, that that previous year.
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And then we rock up and they're like, why aren't you guys being like
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fun And we're like, because we may as well be in a cemetery.
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It was so creepy, so weird. Have you heard of the Nazis cheese?
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Yeah? And then they had a pole. They had an arcade game
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in the core, like you know, like your your Grand Tarismo kind of
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like driving things what but it was but it was a safe driving simulator,
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so it was like you get in it, you don't get out of first
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gear, you learn how to reverse, parallel park in it, and oh
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that's good shit. Yeah, women need to do that a lot. Shake
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it off, Wow, shake it up, shake it up. I mean
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when when these aired, I'm assuming SG one, like they were back to
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back on the same night, right, like when SG one and Atlantas would
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play. So this being episode which of which the episode nine of season three
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played after season ten episode nine of SG one, which is a Company of
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Thives which you spoke about in the last episode. Will this has been arguably
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the worst, like one two punch, as far as these shows airing back
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to back episodes like possibly, I mean so far like of Recaus, we
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we kind of ship on Company Thieves, Yeah, and then you get this
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one, which is just like a whole lot of nothing. I think I'm
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smelling what you're laying down here, Mitchell, and you're like, this is
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this is when the cancelation was really like, well, I'm hoping that they
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would have paired this with Quest Part one. You're looking at the dates and
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they didn't come to it hopes. So so you go, oh god,
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now I'm even more anticipating part of the question. Fifteenth of the ninth,
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two thousand and six. It'll just be my twenty second birth Yeah. In
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the day after your twenty second birthday, you were like, I wonder if
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I need to like star get anymore. No, that was Vegas. It
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was going to go to Vegas, Vegas. I was like, I'm done
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with You know who won to Leo Award for that, Robert C. Cooper
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for Vegas. Yeah. What what it's like? It makes this episode look
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like an Oscar movie. It's like the Grace of Atlantis, Trace of Atlantis
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Space worse. But it's just like it's the what is it doing here?
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Yeah? What what was that first episode that Cooper back in season one with
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the First Commandment? Yeah, it's the First Commandment of But it's not it's
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not that it's not awful. It is I think Mitch is gonna like it.
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Oh yeah, you do like, he will like it, he will,
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you do love Laura and order. But it is that just because of
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risk or it's not not because of it. I have a feeling Mitch might
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like it. Yeah, that's the point where at least you know, because
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that's where I pull. It's a different because it was size the first Jazam
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film twenty eighteen or nineteen or whatever it was. I didn't see the cinema
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will be age is to see it, And I think, I don't know
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why we're rand in a group sequel. Yeah, yeah, we're all still
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waiting to see the sequel. I think, no, no, you've got
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it. Yeah, yeah, I'll watch it. I'll get there. But
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I remember you Brandon putting in our chat going, yeah, I'll be very
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interested to see what Mitch. I think I know what Mitch is going to
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think of it. And I was like, oh, what, Like,
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am I going to hate it? Because it's like because I was like a
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defender of certain of the DCEU films and because it was a lighter touch within
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that, like not that it was even that connected to those films, that
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it was certainly made in the same era. Am I gonna hate it?
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Simply because it's not the same tone as those movies, or am I really
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gonna like it because it's big dumb fun and I'm a big dumb idiot.
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And it took me another eighteen months before I even watched it, and I
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was always like, nuh, I'm gonna remember that, and I'm pulling out
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our group chat. Once I watched it and really liked it, and punched
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in search you know, shazam some something, and eventually pulled out that message
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and I'm like, yeah, we never cleared that up, and I did.
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I couldn't remember still even to this day, whether I even followed that
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up and going, I really want to know what you thought that I was
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going to think about this movie eighteen months ago? Do you remember? And
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you're like, as if you would go that was while would I remember my
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thought from eighteen months ago about what your opinion might be in a movie you
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haven't seen. Do you want to know why I wrote that? Yeah?
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Because I just go back fum and it's what he just said. One of
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the I think we were such in the in the cusp of like trying to
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like we were reviewing and like giving a feedback on other different films and then
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she's in comes up and I'm like, I still haven't seen her. I'll
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be very interesting to see what one of the sucker Seinfeld. So what was
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the I don't remember right now. One of the most telling things that was
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mine Mitch's friendship, and I can't remember which movie it was. But every
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now and then Mitchell get to see like we're have to go to, you
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know, premires and screenings, and Mitch got to go to one like the
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premiere of the premiere, like the pre screen. So every now and then
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he'll see a movie before we've all seen it, and we all went and
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saw it, and he doesn't tell us, well, sometimes he does somethingtimes
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he doesn't, but then when he reveals afterwards is that he's then nervous because
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he's watching us watch the movie, like because if he really likes it,
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then he's like, oh, he like he's like judging, like and like
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clocking our reactions. Yeah, And I'm like and that's when I realized I'm
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even rent free in this motherfuck's head. This is fantastic. No, everyone
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does. It's so weird because like, especially in there that you know about
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it, you have fun with it. No, it's worse. It's it's
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worse the first time around because it's a movie that I'm regardless whether I'm really
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really really keen to see it or I just wan that. I'm like,
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hey, i'm here. Obviously you want every movie what she wanted to be
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good, otherwise you're wasting your time. But I'll sit there and there will
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be you know, like I'm sitting there with my wife, and I'll just
23:30
say I'm like, ahh yeah, because I was kind of getting into it,
23:37
and then I'm like, oh, you know what, I understand,
23:40
and I understand why she wouldn't do this, like this is this is a
23:42
me movie. I've done her a favorite. And then I kind of just
23:45
sit back and get at oh god damn it. And then we walk out
23:48
and ring on her finger, She's like, you're welcome. I really like
23:52
that, and I'm like, oh, well, what did I waste twenty
23:56
seven minutes in? Why did you hu seping sleeping? God damn it.
24:03
They're like, now you know what, I really like this? Or do
24:04
I being really stressed? Because the last tie in particular I remember was when
24:08
we went and saw The Batman and the Robert Pattinson and you've definitely seen that.
24:14
And then Brenda and I was sitting next to you, and Brenda and
24:15
I were just sitting there like a statler and Waldorf was just like just making
24:19
fun of this here and there, and I can tell Mitch was getting really
24:22
nervous. I don't know what I think of that movie. Yes, it's
24:26
fine, it's okay. It's just like a I don't know, well made.
24:33
I can't complain about any of it. Yeah, yeah, it's for
24:36
me. It's it's better than the Nolan films, but we all know my
24:40
feelings on those. Definitely Academy Award winner Christopher Nolan, thank you. Oh
24:47
I won't forget because he'll tell everybody. He went for Best Director, got
24:51
up and did his speech, and then he won for Best Picture as a
24:52
producer, and you know what he said nothing. He let his wife talk,
24:56
and he let his other producer talk. He could have got out there
24:59
and went, I also produces film and on the Greatest so you know what,
25:02
because he just looked around in his head went that's right. You will
25:04
know it because that's what he thought. I can hope. So he just
25:07
want the best picture of the Oscars. You don't want to get out there
25:08
and go the Oscars and nothing. You gotta talk about cuts. The Oscars
25:14
are the biggest cut. Sure sure the video I said your while ago with
25:18
who played cat Woman? God, I'm so bad with I was going for
25:22
that. I could have went for the Batman. She's the most recent and
25:26
I went foray. Were talking about Nolan telling the story about she was.
25:34
She was really nervous about being Catwoman and Nolan gave that bullshit speech to her.
25:40
He's like, well, you know when you were one of my films.
25:41
You just need to know that you're around the best people and they're the
25:45
best at what they do. They're the best pictures credit. He talking about
25:49
a big fan of Last the Cinematographer, Mates and the Keeter. Can you
25:59
imagine a movie have you? Written by Robert Cooper and directed by Christopher Nolan?
26:02
No? I can't because he wouldn't deal with that. You know what
26:03
he do? You go, No, thanks, I'll right it myself and
26:06
I want to Oscar for it. If not nominated. Go oh, Cooper,
26:10
that's a great script. Let me just shoot it in reverse and I'm
26:12
a genius and might fix it. Give me give me a Cooper episode that
26:17
wouldn't have been fixed, and other than other than the fifth race, that
26:19
wouldn't be fixed by making it go and reverse of truth. Well that we're
26:25
seen so far in rewatch. So anyway, phantoms, how good it's it's
26:32
it's great, But imagine being Beckett never I couldn't get Mike you that's your
26:40
being Becket's patient, and you're like, am I gonna make it? Duck?
26:45
Hey? If you don't, can your boots Just take your boots off
26:52
and related let me let me undo your least. They wheel them in and
26:56
they're like doctor. He just looks out against pink ones and it's like,
27:02
what, I guess nothing like it's just he's already thinking about where he's gonna
27:06
put them. I haven't got a pad of pink ones, you know,
27:10
just just on of ax. Go to my vest. I've got some Horme
27:12
made tablet in there that you can nibble, or some table chicken nibble.
27:17
One I mentioned I sexty you texted you guys, I say, sexty,
27:22
I've sexted you guys. Yeah, because I had tablet the photo your photo,
27:26
Yeah, it was it was delicious, fantastic. I feel like this.
27:32
They didn't need the opening scene with where they could have just had them
27:34
through the gate. Whoa hold on, Maurice. That's such a good gift,
27:41
you, sir. In apology, you owe Tory Higgins an apology,
27:48
you owe all the weirdows and apology. What oh you might have missed that?
27:53
Uh someone a Patreon. I think it might have been demo coined it.
27:57
Anyone who's a fan did hear that? Anyone's a fan of we Are?
28:00
We? We are the Weirdos makes sense? I think we are this
28:08
whole time. Mm hmmm. Has been impersonating an actor. Taylor. Oh
28:18
so John, John? Oh God, yeah, John, that's it.
28:33
She says that John, listen to me jesus, Yeah, right, okay
28:44
now, and so it's okay when Taylor doesn't. Okay, I see now,
28:49
I see what this is. We'll be right back. That's one of
28:56
my favorite things in podcasts lately. We'll be right back. So tell me
29:03
about the time your mother died. We'll be right back. We're going to
29:07
say we're going to stay here, all right, keep going. I don't
29:10
Yeah, that's that's what I just I just like when they cut the brake
29:12
anyway, and I'm like, you don't have sponsors, and you're not filming
29:15
this. It's not like you're breaking for video. It's just purely audio.
29:18
You can talk and then stop for an hour and come back and the beauty
29:23
of it. I released the podcast the other week. I recorded it four
29:26
times over three different days, like segments, and edited that bitch together,
29:30
and even I didn't know where the cuts were by the end of it,
29:33
Like because as long as I've seening by the same quality microphone in the same
29:36
room, the same circumstances, like, I just don't get that. It's
29:38
like we you don't. Don't you don't make yourself sound more sophisticated than what
29:42
you are there. I was listening to the Scrubs podcast the other day and
29:45
like when they go let's take a break, they literally have a little thing
29:48
that goes Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and die Old, and then they have
29:53
a two minute ad break, and at the end of the ad break,
29:56
it comes back in with Scrubs Rewatch Show with they cut Let's take a Break,
30:00
played that sting. There were no ads that week because there were no
30:04
sponsors. Then they played the sting a second time and came back in,
30:08
but at least they're having fun with it. But it's almost like I think
30:11
it triggers an audience member because you know, like when we used to have
30:15
segments, you'd know that it's near the end of the podcast has been paid.
30:18
Yeah kind of stuff. I feel like that that's a lot of the
30:22
reason they do that. Yeah, what I hate is when podcasters put their
30:26
podcasts up on YouTube have their like written sponsors where they have to read like
30:33
a three minute ad. But in the middle of a three minute ad a
30:36
YouTube ado side, I'm like, yeah, absolutely, welcome to the future.
30:41
That's why I play, That's why I pay for YouTube Premium. Now
30:42
I'm like this ship. Just use your PC and use an ad blocker.
30:48
Now you puts, you just type in ad blocker, hit download and it's
30:52
done. Don't need to worry about it. But then that doesn't work on
30:56
my phone. No, you can get Yeah, you can get them on
31:00
your phone, I think, but I don't know how to do that.
31:03
It's fine, I'll just pay the seven bucks whatever. YouTube, well,
31:10
no ads, and you can listen to stuff when you when you when you
31:12
lock, when you when you lock your phone the video. Yeah, that's
31:15
cool. Spotify do that with some podcast stands going up. So I've got
31:19
an email today, stands going up to twelve dollars a month. It's people,
31:26
well, I mean, put your brices down. For god much of
31:32
iceberg lettuces. I haven't don't need a salad. I can't stand it.
31:37
Salads for women. I don't need to see it. It's that rageous.
31:41
You're in America, dull service salad. And it's just like a wedge of
31:45
iceberg. So they'll just imagine, imagine, isn't that bock choy or something.
31:48
No, no, no, dull server salad. Imagine it's an iceberg
31:51
that's just been cut in like four triangles, like it's a watermelton. They'll
31:55
put that wedge on the plate and then sprinkle freaking ranch dressing and tomatoes and
31:59
bits of and they recollect. It's good stuff. It feels like mail bag.
32:12
I feel like an episode. Oh hang on a second, talk at
32:15
the Phantom. I've just got to I've just got a notification from the Phantom
32:17
game Twitter accounts. They're just hearing Phantom and getting algorithms pushing ship my way.
32:23
As if I didn't have any more Phantom stuff, I absolutely could and
32:28
to follow what Craig said the other week, when I mean, it's probably
32:30
only in the Patreon if at all haven't read a comic. And I couldn't
32:32
tell you how long you said, go and treat yourself, not sexually,
32:36
just go home, grab a fantom comic and read one. Still get to
32:38
do that, Still yet to do that. If we're talking about Stargate this
32:45
episode, we might mention occasionally, you know how some of them had flashbacks
32:49
or it was almost a flashback, especially for Shepherd. It's like back in
32:52
that war zone or the other guy. Taylor's immune because she's she's got some
32:59
brif Okay, so that's why she was with John John and he was having
33:06
his flashbacks. Oh yeah, I actually like the production of that, Like
33:10
it looked, you know, was that it wasn't this They tucked him into
33:14
a little corner and went, oh, here's some sand around you with just
33:15
you know, it seemed went to a different kind of expansive I reckon that
33:21
chopper though, was a redress of the one from Honduras. Remember an evolution,
33:24
Remember with Daniel and the just shoot me guy? Oh yeah, right,
33:29
yeah, there's a there's a big down helicopters that I reckon, they
33:31
just rehide the same one reckon the production owns that knocked the dents out of
33:36
it, you know, painted a great joy So like because Becker didn't they
33:42
get drunk or something the night before? Who I wrote here Shepherd was lucky.
33:46
He was out on a really bad bend there and everybody over sounds like
33:51
some fan fit to me, there was something that it was hungover. There
33:55
was something at the start of the episode where it was like he was lucky
33:58
to be there at all. Yeah, like there was something almost stopped him
34:00
from being there. Well, maybe maybe he was crooked, like you said,
34:02
like there was something. I thought there was something like that. Yeah,
34:06
that's why I wrote it down because I was thinking, imagine if he
34:07
was feeling good everyone now Yeah, well, I mean he clocked bloody Roan
34:14
in the shoulder or whatever it was, and I'm like, I don't feel
34:15
like many people do that very often at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
34:20
I Like, I mean that was you know, that was what we
34:22
were expecting to see once you saw one, you know, false memory,
34:27
you know what visual on. Here we go, we're on and he's off
34:30
chasing Wraith Ronan and then and McKay's sorry, Shepherd's trying to you know,
34:35
fix the past event but in real time or whatever. But it was when
34:37
you got down to gamekeeper. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a little bit.
34:42
Yeah, but then you got to like McKay and sorry, doctor Becker.
34:49
And it was because you weren't as a viewer, I think with obviously,
34:52
with Ronan and Shepherd, you knew what was real and what wasn't,
34:57
whereas when you're in the room with Beckett McKay, it took them longer to
35:01
fool you, and by that stage you weren't sure which of them to believe
35:06
at any moment. And then obviously when the body disappears, but then they
35:08
know what's going on, but then they can't trust the other person because then
35:10
another false person pops up and says and I'm like, I actually like that
35:14
part of it because I don't know what to expect here, whereas the other
35:17
stuff was very like he's in the desert. Clearly he's not, he's a
35:21
forest. It was a cool twist though, when Beckett kind of comes in
35:24
and the dude's already dead. Yeah, yeah the whole time, what has
35:29
he been doing to this dead guy? Yeah? And that's where it was
35:31
like, oh, did he get his boots, because you like, you're
35:35
pretty excited that the guy's dead. He's just swelling from all the extra drugs.
35:43
I love the idea, like when I listed so much more the dead
35:46
quarterfor leaders of Saline and these boots forever, Like McKay's like, he's dead,
35:53
he's dead. Then the other block pops up and he's like he's trying
35:57
to stop you from getting back to save him, and he just like bust
35:59
mackay of the way. He's like, I stole his boots all too early,
36:01
and he has to go back and he's like tying the shoes back on
36:05
this guy he's barely alive, but they don't they don't fit on because you
36:10
have dead some all the extra liquid that he's like put into him has made
36:15
his big swell. So we kind of get the boots back on and then
36:17
oh they're too big, and then he ends up popping like Senator Kelly from
36:21
the first X Men movie, all of extra sailine and blood. It's like
36:24
the idea of you know, he would have been one of the early missions
36:28
where they're in off World and there's a giant attack and he's stealing the shoes,
36:32
but he's the one that he's there before anyone else, you know,
36:36
rocks up, and that the report that again goes back to Atlanta's that he
36:38
has to file, which then obviously gets sent back on a mass hard drive
36:43
back to Earth. And they're chronicling the wraith and documenting them and like they
36:46
go through their their mo o and it's like, okay, what they do.
36:50
You know, they suck your blood and they take years off you laugh,
36:52
blah blah blah. And also they stealed your shoes after they killed you.
37:00
That's a room it started to save his own guilt and shame, and
37:05
so that just becomes they didn't get onto it. It's a Mandela effective And
37:07
I thought, did we always know that they stole shoes? And then like
37:12
all of a sudden, everyone's looking at Taylor a little bit weird, like
37:15
there's no wraith. It's like she's got some wraith in her, Like she's
37:16
probably still on a high hill at some point. You know, she's always
37:19
running around with bare feet in case you don't want to find shoes and not
37:24
be able to carry him right, just slip him straight on. Yeah,
37:29
yeah, like it was. It was like they just had imaginary dreams until
37:35
that, until they fixed that Wraith thing, and then that was it.
37:37
And then also like I mean like if they took a puddle jumper to every
37:43
mission, they would have no problems. It's a spaceship, a plane,
37:47
a turret, gun, a remote mobile, DHD, like it's all of
37:52
these things. Shelter cloak, yeah, cloak. It's so even. Okay,
37:58
obviously there's trees. They always say I couldn't bring the jumper, and
38:00
it's like, dude, there's twenty of you like spread out. There's enough
38:06
dead people over there, yeap, like you can fit it. Yeah yeah,
38:08
and the DHD explodes. It's like, Okay, we didn't think of
38:13
this when we couldn't get radio contact. Mmm. Hello anyway, that's why
38:19
it's dumb. But I like, yeah, back, it's too bit and
38:22
I made up. That's fair. That's fair. I just like that.
38:27
I do like it's one for me. You know, I watched this show
38:30
for the first time with Lincoln or by myself when it was in its initial
38:34
role. I'm not stargeted at Lanta, so I'm watching that for the first
38:36
time now, but SG one and I'm watching that for what it is in
38:40
front of me, and I'm trying to just, you know, either understand
38:44
it or enjoy everything about it and whatever. Whereas you and your first go
38:49
you probably had moments by yourself while you we're doing that, but then you're
38:51
also watching it with jobs and it's like, okay, well now we've got
38:53
someone else in the room, and you're coming up with these little fanfic ideas
38:57
and backstories and stuff. For it's like kind of messing with your first interpretation
39:02
and first assessment of the episode, which probably is probably great then on the
39:06
on the rewatch, because then you can actually have a little bit of fun
39:08
with it. Yeah, even more so you can build on that, which
39:10
is great for the pod because then I'm not just rewatching it now going yes,
39:15
this is exactly the same way I felt about this episode fifteen years ago.
39:17
I'm now watching it going, Beckett's got a shoe thing cool, Well,
39:21
you know, the equivalent of SG one. Then I'm watching that further
39:22
up for the second time. You're waiting for the key for Thel. He's
39:27
nude when he said that, right, I'm telling that to Sarah, I'm
39:29
telling that to my kids, and watch that. He's always dude, right,
39:32
yeah, yeah, like just so you know, yeah, see that
39:35
guy when he first pops up and like pre credits SG one pilot, Yeah,
39:38
just know he's going to get nude a lot off screen, like when
39:42
you hear him. Just like, just know he's nude when he's at their
39:45
desk. He ain't wearing pants. Yes, if you see him from wayst
39:47
up so under the desk. I don't know how that shirt looks so tucked
39:52
in when he's got no pants on or a belt. It's I've took it
39:54
under my belly. Now he wears those those our gardens have the clips that
40:00
yeah, like the underpants, yeah, the stockings maybe he's got a cock
40:08
hole and the stockings spenders under the blue. He needs a snack. That's
40:17
why Walter goes in every eight minutes. Did you need anything? Yeah,
40:21
looking good, sir, yep. Cool. Why do I smell cherry?
40:22
Yeah, it's like cheese flavor is under I've never had a bite available underwear,
40:32
so I don't know neither. It looks like a roll up well now
40:39
like his pets. Now we said it was good for teeth at the start
40:46
of this. Uh yeah a little bit, but you don't want to be
40:52
a baiter. Shout out to any dick. God, yeah, any dick,
40:58
to any any any to any dick who likes to be a big bit
41:00
a little bit. Yeah, I didn't need we're in this at all.
41:07
Look, I forgot she was in it to be fair when you said that
41:13
a week off Tory And also it was one of those And I know they
41:15
have to do it, they have to give exposition to the audience, but
41:19
I feel like there's just there's different ways of doing it. I think,
41:22
actually this I wish I could remember it more, to remember what I thought
41:24
of it, the general consensus of it, just the actually but the actual
41:28
line, the exact quote that she uttered. But it was just the she
41:31
okay, And this is not going to Brendan's point of her being a horrible
41:36
boss of the thing. I'm sure Hammond would have done it, and I'm
41:38
sure that Laundry does it on SG one, but they know what's going Their
41:43
top line team is off doing something rather than being like, hey, so
41:46
yeah, where is the second team again? And then members of the first
41:51
team I have to get We'll remember they're on P three x blah blah blahlah,
41:52
and they've went there to do this, and these are the people they're
41:54
dealing with, and the last time we checked in with them, it's like
41:58
the bosses walkerund aimlessly to, Hey, I'm going to be the audience.
42:01
I'm going to ask a dumb question to which i should already know the answers.
42:05
I'm the boss, rather than like it would have been like, hey,
42:08
so where due to hear back from the second team in three hours?
42:13
Yeah? And then someone got well, yeah, three hours and ten minutes
42:15
since their last check in where they said this or what like again, meet
42:19
halfway, like tell us some of the information, but have weir come in
42:22
and go, hey, have we got an update from blah blah blah with
42:25
regard to this planet in this mission? Like she knows what she's talking about.
42:29
She just needs a little bit of extra information. Rather be completely dumb,
42:31
it wouldn't take up any extra time in the script or on screen or
42:36
shooting. It's exactly the same thing. And it makes her look so much
42:39
laundry Hammond, anybody looks so much less of an idiot. Yeah, when
42:44
they do that, Yeah, there is there is a difference, though,
42:45
And I've talked about a little bit. I'll do it as quickly as I
42:49
can. The context with weird being she was supposed to be she was supposed
42:59
to be the Haven'd and I BELI leave. Donis Davis's deal was like he
43:01
contractually didn't have to be in every episode. There's certain things in Hollywood and
43:07
TV shows of like where you get like it's like a ten to thirteen deal.
43:09
So every thirteen episodes you contract you have to be in ten, you
43:13
don't for the other three. But he's still getting paid. You still again,
43:16
was in it in Gilmore Girls Boy, Brad Wright really really liked Tory.
43:22
He considered really like, where's the character? He wanted to be more
43:24
involved? Who does it anyway? None of No, That's that's the thing
43:28
I've mentioned. I thought, none of thank you, none of the other
43:30
None of the other writers knew what to do with her so and she.
43:37
Why didn't they? Oh that's why I had someone write in she contracted as
43:39
made for me. Why didn't they ask? Brad Right, Well, that's
43:45
a good question. Yeah, I don't know. Well, they're too I
43:47
feel like they're too scared of Cooper, probably like you have to go through
43:52
Cooper's offers to get to Brad Right, yeah, Brad was off playing playing
43:57
golf or whatever. But yeah, she was contracted able to be in more
44:01
episodes, so they had to write in little things like this. When they
44:05
didn't do with her, then they just like and she was also more active.
44:09
She wanted to be in more stuff as well. But we don't need
44:13
she was the Michael Shanks. She's the come on, let's you know my
44:16
character wouldn't necessarily do this, you know character if she has got a ten
44:22
thirteen. But she rocks up and they're like, oh, you're not actually
44:29
in this episode. She's like, oh well, and she's taken off her
44:31
bag. I'm here now, I'm sure you can stuff somewhere. Were trying
44:37
to kill you. We killed your three episodes ago. Yeah, but we're
44:40
in a big galaxy, like, I'm sure I can. I'm actually here.
44:43
We go here, Hannah them around. I've come up with seven different
44:45
ways I can be brought back to life. We run the expedition. She
44:50
can just be in the background, up in up in target commands. Do
44:53
you want to talk to We're not gonna need you anymore. We actually don't
44:58
need a leader anymore. So, yeah, we don't need you. Did
45:02
you ever work at a place retail, fast food maybe, and you know,
45:07
occasionally you wouldn't have a manager. It would be up to the staff,
45:08
the most senior staff, to sort of run the organization. We feel
45:13
we feel obviously as a distance from her to Atlantis anywhere, they're kind of
45:17
running their own. Colonel, We've got a z right, you know for
45:23
advice. I feel like we could really get to the meet the old story
45:30
if if we just bypassed, say your character, so you're not gonna be
45:36
here next week, you can think about how your character would feel about it.
45:38
If you want. On the drive home, yeah, I just don't
45:42
need to hear. You can think about your character sitting in her It's not
45:45
my phone number, feel free to call that and not tell me. He's
45:50
my dog's Instagram follow if you could notification bells hit alike. Cavalier is of
46:00
Underscore. I g H. What you don't know is anytime she's not on
46:06
screen, she's just sitting in the office at her desk. Yeah, just
46:08
spinning around. No plague, Solitaire ship, Hey, one bit of hummus.
46:15
Imagine carrots and homeless. That's the saddest stacking in the world. I
46:22
love a bit of dip m. John. The only thing sadder than Hummerson
46:28
carrots is like carib Like if you have some kind of Carib snack, it's
46:32
about the Arab carab. The fake chocolate. I've never heard of it.
46:37
You've never had Carib carab. Never I said it. What are they teaching
46:44
you? Guys? You eat chocolate? What I eat? Fake chocolate.
46:50
I tried that bacon because I thought it was a joke. We laugh the
46:55
way home. They don't never eat it, never put it in my mouth.
47:00
It's disgusting. I see you put a lot of chemicals in this to
47:05
make it taste like the very thing that exists right here. Yeah, ironically
47:10
Carab carrot in the Twilight zone right now? How are you two grown men?
47:19
Carab? What you're saying? C A r A yeah, okay,
47:22
it was a guess on Google this holy carabb? Whoa what? Never?
47:29
What carrot? Making carrot? Look looks like that looks like a rotten banana?
47:36
Correct. That's the is that the things you warm up and you put
47:37
it you like you You put them on under your shoe and you scratch them
47:42
on them and then there's on the on the concrete and then you put on
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your mate's leg and it burns in. That's that what are you talking about?
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There's also Carab Collen who's from Warhammer forty like it's a character, Google
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mate, Yeah, yeah, you're thinking of Warhammer and yeah, that's what
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you're thinking. C A r O B. There's ground beatles carib A day
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c A r O B. Mother what it corrected me? Don't say mother.
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I asked you for clarification on the spelling, and you said, yes,
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that's right. I'm not the spokesperson for Carab. For sake, I
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just like it. Everyone should know about carib because you haven't seen the billboard
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out from with Carab on it best. How do you not have a cho
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tree in your chocolate and you're actually eating carib Can white cis privilege? You
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mothers have we get Arab? We ate Hadbury exactly. That's what privilege.
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Showing Carab was the disgusting want to be that's give you. Carib is the
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of chocolate. We need to get out of here. I'm stressing out.
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I'm losing my twist. It's real chocolate. They can get that into you.
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Pull the Carab out of your ass and eat that chocolat bread. Anyone
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split it with me? It's real. Can we go? Yes? Yeah,
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this is twenty minutes longer than I wanted to be here. Chocolate,
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if any if anyone cares, mountain Wood was the was the voice of the
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cam corner guy. Let's go see. Yeah. Couldn't you get into the
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geek? Get into Gate, Get into gate Stargate podcast. Get into it
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now before it's too late.