Latest / Booked On Rock with Eric Senich / AC/DC’s Secret Weapon: Malcolm Young [Highlight From Episode 345]
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Here's a highlight from a recent episode of Booked on Rock.
- 0:03Speaker 1: Our guest is Kathy McCabe, author of the new book
- 0:06Speaker 1: Rock Gods, Icons of Rock Music. I love that Malcolm
- 0:10Speaker 1: is in there with Angus Young because Malcolm, a lot
- 0:13Speaker 1: of people don't know unless you're a really hardcore ACDC fan.
- 0:17Speaker 1: He is so important to the ACDC sound, which I'm
- 0:20Speaker 1: assuming is that why you wanted to put the brothers
- 0:22Speaker 1: together rather than just Angus, because maybe most would just
- 0:25Speaker 1: go with Angus because he's the guy. You see, he's
- 0:28Speaker 1: the you know, he's the the face of the band.
- 0:32Speaker 2: With that they never never could have been.
- 0:35Speaker 3: I mean, he was the one who was neurdling away
- 0:37Speaker 3: on the guitar in the bedroom while you know, the
- 0:41Speaker 3: fans of their brother George were screaming on the front
- 0:44Speaker 3: yard in western Sydney, a couple of suburbs away from
- 0:47Speaker 3: where I am now, and Angus was just trying to
- 0:53Speaker 3: be as good as him. But the interesting thing was
- 0:59Speaker 3: they deviate in their paths of how they wanted to
- 1:04Speaker 3: play and how they wanted to construct music. And that
- 1:06Speaker 3: was Malcolm went rhythm and Angus went lead, and that
- 1:11Speaker 3: I guess that kind of happened naturally is as brothers,
- 1:14Speaker 3: would you know, sitting in a bedroom jamming, Well, you're
- 1:17Speaker 3: not going to want to play exactly the same thing together.
- 1:20Speaker 2: You're going to want to sort of play.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Off each other and inspire and push each other. But
- 1:28Speaker 3: Malcolm was was He was the captain of that band.
- 1:33Speaker 3: The General, the Little General.
- 1:34Speaker 2: I think was one of the nicknames that he had.
- 1:39Speaker 3: People came and went in that band because Malcolm wanted
- 1:44Speaker 3: them to go. You know, he had absolutely no qualms
- 1:49Speaker 3: about changing the line up when he felt that there'd
- 1:52Speaker 3: been a clash of personality, or somebody wasn't lifting their weight,
- 1:55Speaker 3: or were going through some tough times themselves with drugs
- 2:00Speaker 3: and alcohol. I mean, he famously took himself off for
- 2:05Speaker 3: about eight to ten months, you know, when the drinking
- 2:09Speaker 3: got the better of him and started affecting his playing.
- 2:12Speaker 3: And that was the first time Stevie Young, their nephew,
- 2:15Speaker 3: joined the band, who now you know, is permanently there
- 2:19Speaker 3: as Marcum's replacement.
- 2:21Speaker 1: That was in eighty six, i think nineteen eighty six,
- 2:23Speaker 1: on the Blow Up Your Video tour.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
- 2:30Speaker 3: You know it's like obviously the two of them stopped
- 2:34Speaker 3: to have a conversation after Bond's death, you know, do
- 2:37Speaker 3: we carry on? Do we fold the band? And it
- 2:42Speaker 3: was bon Scott's family who insisted that he would have
- 2:45Speaker 3: wanted them to continue, so, you know, they did their
- 2:48Speaker 3: secret auditions found Brian Johnson and the rest is history.
- 2:53Speaker 3: I saw them a couple of weeks ago here, and
- 2:57Speaker 3: despite the fact that there's been you know, the usual
- 3:00Speaker 3: social media pylon about you know, perhaps they're not at
- 3:04Speaker 3: their best anymore. I took a friend who'd never seen
- 3:09Speaker 3: them before, and he was just completely wild.
- 3:13Speaker 2: I saw nine.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Year old goals with their you know, their little flashing
- 3:17Speaker 3: horns and their mouths just dropped watching this complete explosion
- 3:24Speaker 3: of you know, guitars, drums and bass and Johnson doing
- 3:31Speaker 3: the best you can with the voice that he's got
- 3:33Speaker 3: at his age seventy eight, I think, and I just
- 3:39Speaker 3: don't understand why you would begrudge them doing what they're
- 3:46Speaker 3: doing when they're able to do it.
- 3:48Speaker 1: I'm with you, they can do it as long as
- 3:51Speaker 1: they want. If nobody's forcing the fans to go, you
- 3:53Speaker 1: don't have to buy a ticket.
- 3:55Speaker 3: Well, and it's not the fans who are who are
- 3:59Speaker 3: leading this, you know, time to hang it.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Up call.
- 4:02Speaker 3: It's people who haven't even been to the gig who
- 4:05Speaker 3: are watching, you know, the dodgy concept footage that we
- 4:09Speaker 3: all take on our on our phones. I mean, it
- 4:12Speaker 3: just seems if you're there, the electricity of it is,
- 4:16Speaker 3: you know, you can't argue that that is worth the
- 4:20Speaker 3: price of admission.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the times we're in now. Everybody's putting up
- 4:25Speaker 1: footage on lyons certainly not not even close to the
- 4:28Speaker 1: same thing. Like you said, it's an experience when you're there.
- 4:31Speaker 1: That's great to hear that the younger generation is still
- 4:35Speaker 1: loving ACDC. What's not to love, right, I mean that
- 4:37Speaker 1: the songs are just they hook you in and they
- 4:41Speaker 1: never let you go.
- 4:42Speaker 3: And that's the thing about rock music too, I think,
- 4:46Speaker 3: you know, and it was notwithstanding you know, the artists
- 4:50Speaker 3: that we've lost, there is this you know, inexplicable refreshing
- 4:59Speaker 3: of the generation with rock music that I think happens
- 5:02Speaker 3: far more with this genre than it does with pop
- 5:06Speaker 3: or even hip hop. It seems almost to be a
- 5:12Speaker 3: rite of passage that you know, particularly for young Australians
- 5:16Speaker 3: that you know, guys turn thirteen, the testosterone kicks in
- 5:20Speaker 3: and they're they're raiding their parents ac DC records.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome, or in.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Excess or midn idol or cultures or whichever.
- 5:29Speaker 3: And then you know led Zeppelin, Black Zabbath, whoever from overseas,
- 5:34Speaker 3: and they become real students.
- 5:37Speaker 2: Of the music.
- 5:37Speaker 3: They like to dive down the rabbit hole and find,
- 5:42Speaker 3: you know, more music, find you know, interesting information. There
- 5:48Speaker 3: were students of it, and I don't I don't see
- 5:52Speaker 3: that happening as much with pop music. Maybe Michael Jackson,
- 5:56Speaker 3: but not to the same degree that it does with
- 5:59Speaker 3: all all of the rock ats.
- 6:01Speaker 1: You're right, interesting to see what happens regarding Michael. The
- 6:04Speaker 1: movies coming out on Michael, So we'll see what that
- 6:09Speaker 1: does for his bodywork, because I mean there's a guy
- 6:14Speaker 1: who was just what he could do. Is I mean
- 6:17Speaker 1: we had in the eighties, Prince, Michael Jackson, Madonna. I mean,
- 6:21Speaker 1: there's so many huge stars, Whitney Houston. You know, it's
- 6:27Speaker 1: amazing how many people the greatest artist performers of all
- 6:32Speaker 1: time in that decade.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Yeah, and you sort of see it.
- 6:36Speaker 3: I guess around you know, anniversaries and things like that.
- 6:42Speaker 3: You'll see, you know, a spike that will happen in
- 6:46Speaker 3: you know streaming or on the charts where a good
- 6:49Speaker 3: of back catalog or go back. But you look at
- 6:51Speaker 3: ac DC, I mean they held their music off streaming
- 6:56Speaker 3: services until twenty fifteen. They only went on I Tunes
- 7:00Speaker 3: in twenty twelve, so they held out. Now they've got
- 7:05Speaker 3: three songs that are over two billion, Thunderstruck, Highway to Hell,
- 7:09Speaker 3: Back in Black, I think you shook me all On's
- 7:13Speaker 3: one point five billion.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to be up there, so you know.
- 7:19Speaker 3: There's not there's there's what the Weekend Edjiran Taylor, Swift, Adele,
- 7:27Speaker 3: a bunch of others. Who are you know, Drake and
- 7:30Speaker 3: Kendrack could have three billion, two billion multiple tracks.
- 7:35Speaker 2: But I can't think of another rock at that's.
- 7:37Speaker 3: Got that many tracks that have hit that that Spotify
- 7:41Speaker 3: ceiling of over two billion.
- 7:44Speaker 1: And there everywhere sport you go to sporting events, you
- 7:47Speaker 1: hear Thunderstruck and Back in Black, and.
- 7:50Speaker 3: Thunderstruck would have to be the most played sports highlights
- 7:56Speaker 3: package song of all time.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Yeah, so many people I would put
- 8:00Speaker 2: I would put money on that