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“How Low can you Dubrow?” | RHOC RECAP with Alexis Janssen · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. All raindrops. This is the episode of
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  Speaker 1: all episodes. Alexis Jansen and I are back to recap.
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  Speaker 1: The Real Housewives of Orange County season 20. This is
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  Speaker 1: the episode that we have been waiting on. And guess what?
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  Speaker 1: We're so blessed. Not only is it my birthday, we
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  Speaker 1: also get a special gift. We get two parts of
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  Speaker 1: Alexis in next week's episode. Oh, good God.
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  Speaker 2: Carlos, first of all, we'll never forget your birthday and
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  Speaker 2: my anniversary because my anniversary is tomorrow for one year.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: So that's exciting.
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  Speaker 2: So this is actually a celebratory event. Although it's not,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a celebratory podcast today.
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  Speaker 1: So yay.
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  Speaker 2: Yay to Carlos. Happy birthday. I'm glad you're turning 29.
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  Speaker 2: Next year, we'll celebrate your 30th. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. And I can't wait to celebrate
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  Speaker 1: 100 years of you and John's wedding.
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  Speaker 2: But God, I don't want to make it to 100 years.
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  Speaker 2: I do not want to be 149.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, listen, that's how long the housewives would
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  Speaker 4: be on.
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  Speaker 1: So we need somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as long as I can get facelifts and Botox,
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm good. I think I can, you know,
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  Speaker 2: preserve the face.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know if my organs are going to sustain.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So this podcast, Carlos, is going to be really hard
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  Speaker 2: for me because if you would have told me, you know,
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  Speaker 2: any time in my life, I'd be podcasting about.
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  Speaker 3: A show that I was on.
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  Speaker 2: I would like a podcasting about myself because I have
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  Speaker 2: to be very objective when I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: And now I just watch it and now I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: this is just.
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  Speaker 2: Going to be hard. But I don't know if I
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  Speaker 2: can be objective about myself because it's me. So it's like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you my feelings and how I
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  Speaker 2: feel and the truth behind the scene.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. No. And I think, listen, I just watched
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  Speaker 1: it because I like to watch it right before we
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  Speaker 1: recap because I like to make sure it's fresh and
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  Speaker 1: I have all the emotions and the feelings. And yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions. I have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of questions for you. Yeah. And the fact that this
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  Speaker 1: is just a piece of what we're going to see
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  Speaker 1: next week. But obviously, Raindrops, because Alexis is a professional,
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  Speaker 1: we are only going to talk about what we saw
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  Speaker 1: this week so that next week, okay, she can give
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  Speaker 1: us the additional parts of the story based on the scene.
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  Speaker 2: So, Well, and there's no reason... There's no reason.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry. No, no, please.
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  Speaker 2: There's no reason to talk about anything next week because
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  Speaker 2: we don't know what they're going to air. You don't
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  Speaker 2: know what's going to air of the 25 minutes of
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the party or 30 or an hour.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know how long was left that I
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  Speaker 2: was there. You don't know what they're going to air.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why we can't even talk about next week
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  Speaker 2: because we don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I would love to get in your headspace
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  Speaker 1: just based on what happened between you and Heather and
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  Speaker 1: Tamara because as a producer... I have a feeling, because guys,
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  Speaker 1: Alexis and I don't talk before we hit record. We
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  Speaker 1: literally be like, save it for the pod. Save it
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  Speaker 1: for the pod. So as a producer, there's tons of
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  Speaker 1: questions I have, but also theories that I have based
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  Speaker 1: on your commentary to Tamara. So again, stay tuned for that, Raindrops.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get into the recap, today's my birthday. Tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: is Alexis' anniversary with John. But today is also the
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  Speaker 1: day they are taping the Real Housewives of Orange County reunion. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So what we have, Alexis, as we look into, look.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going into my feed of like what I've gotten
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  Speaker 2: sent to me today.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm hoping you're going where I'm going.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Okay. So we are going to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: seating chart of the show. And first chair belongs to
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  Speaker 1: Vicky and Tamara.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was going to ask you what you thought
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  Speaker 2: about this if you didn't go there.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? Makes sense to me. I think....
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  Speaker 2: I think the entire seating chart is okay, except the fact,
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  Speaker 2: which I shouldn't be speaking so low.
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  Speaker 1: Let me, do you want me to, well, let me
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  Speaker 1: tell the raindrops in case they haven't seen.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes. Let me tell them the entire seating chart then. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So here is the.
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  Speaker 2: Entire screen so that they can see it and then
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  Speaker 2: you can talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: So if they're watching for audio listeners. Okay. So Andy's
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  Speaker 1: left Vicky's first chair next to Vicky is Shannon. Then
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  Speaker 1: it's Gina and, And end of the couch is Emily.
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  Speaker 1: On the other side, first chair is Tamara. Then it's Heather.
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  Speaker 1: Then it's Jen. And last chair is Carmella. Alexis, go first.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this current seating chart?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can go first too. What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: What do I think? Okay. What do you think? I
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  Speaker 1: think the sitting chart makes sense. I think the sitting
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  Speaker 1: chart makes sense. Vicky and Tamara, to me, deserves first chair. Vicky, listen.
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  Speaker 1: Love her or hate her, this season would be a
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  Speaker 1: doll without Vicky. And I think we can all admit that.
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  Speaker 1: Without Vicky, this season would not be what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Whether you love her, whether you hate her, she's the
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  Speaker 1: reason for this season. Okay. So with that being said, Additionally,
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to Vicky's side of the couch, look,
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  Speaker 1: to me, it also makes sense. Shannon next to Vicky
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  Speaker 1: makes sense. They're friends. Look, Gina had some great scenes.
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  Speaker 1: Although I will say this, I will say this. I
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  Speaker 1: may would have put Emily next to Shannon. Emily's scenes
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  Speaker 1: with Shane, she's giving way more interesting personal story than Gina.
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  Speaker 1: So if I had to make a change, I would
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  Speaker 1: have swapped Gina and Emily, right? If that was me.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not mad at the current position, but I
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  Speaker 1: do feel like Emily's personal storylines were stronger. Now to
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  Speaker 1: Tamara's couch, look, I understand because Carmella's a newbie that
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  Speaker 1: you're going to stick her in the end, but I
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  Speaker 1: would have swapped her and Gina. That's me.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So you would have gone on Tamara's side, it would
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  Speaker 2: go on Andy, Tamara, Heather, Camilla, Jen.
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  Speaker 1: Correct. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So what I think it should have been is I
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  Speaker 2: think Carmella and Shannon should have switched places and Jen
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  Speaker 2: and Heather should have switched places.
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  Speaker 3: So I think Carmela should have been next to Vicki. Well,
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  Speaker 3: oh no, they're not friends.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so let's just say, let's say Heather and Carmela
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  Speaker 2: should have switched. It should have gone Tamara, Carmela, Jen,
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  Speaker 2: Heather to me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Or maybe Jen at the end and Heather next.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like Carmella should have been either next to
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  Speaker 2: Vicky or to Tamara because Carmella brought more than any
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  Speaker 2: of the other rest of the girls that were there,
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  Speaker 2: like as far as freshness, which is hard for me
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  Speaker 2: to say being objective after she just bashed me without
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  Speaker 2: knowing me and I've been sticking up for her the
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  Speaker 2: whole season.
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  Speaker 1: Who bashed you?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Carmella on this episode. You did not hear that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, she goes, oh, I'm loyal to Shannon through and through.
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  Speaker 2: I will drop kick a house, old housewife if I
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  Speaker 2: have to. I'm like, I get it. She doesn't know me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't know I've been sticking up with her this
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  Speaker 2: whole time and that I adore her and all that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was shot before we even did the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and also she's being brainwashed by a couple
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  Speaker 2: of people that don't like me in this world when
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  Speaker 2: most of them do.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But that's, I just feel like Carmela got this short
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  Speaker 2: end of the stick because she is new.
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  Speaker 3: I get that she has to be on the end.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. We both agreed on that. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. I'm expecting a great reunion and I
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  Speaker 1: really want it to be good. I want it to
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  Speaker 1: be good. And I feel like with Tamara having first chair,
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  Speaker 1: she's going to make sure that it's good because Tamara
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  Speaker 1: is the best. when it comes to reunions. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: definitely looking forward to that. Let's get into this episode.
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  Speaker 1: One of the scenes that opened up was Heather and Terry.
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  Speaker 1: So in this scene, we learn that Terry's mom, who
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  Speaker 1: is 92 years old and suffering through Alzheimer's, which of
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  Speaker 1: course is very difficult for any child to have to
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  Speaker 1: have a parent dealing with that. She doesn't like where
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  Speaker 1: she's living. And obviously, it's, you know, it's bothering Terry
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  Speaker 1: to a degree because he is somebody that loves his
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  Speaker 1: mom and want to make sure she's good. But he's
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  Speaker 1: also aware that, look, she's not in her right state
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  Speaker 1: of mind. In this scene, we also find... out from Heather,
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  Speaker 1: she emotes on how she was raised by parents who
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  Speaker 1: would ridicule her if she even cried while watching a
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  Speaker 1: movie and that she wasn't really raised to be all
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  Speaker 1: warm and fuzzy. That's just how she is. And that
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  Speaker 1: showed us shape who she is. What I will say
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  Speaker 1: is this, One thing that I love about when people
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  Speaker 1: on reality television bring their parents on or talk about
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  Speaker 1: their parents, to me, it always sheds light on who
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  Speaker 1: they are as adults. And the thing with Heather, I
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  Speaker 1: find Heather to be very cold, right? I find her
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  Speaker 1: to be a cold person. There's nothing warm and fuzzy
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  Speaker 1: about her. She, to me, is an ice queen. And
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  Speaker 1: she's very... hard when it comes to her heart, right?
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  Speaker 1: That's my opinion based on me watching the show. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know her personally. Was she brought up on how
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  Speaker 1: she was raised? I said, okay, now I have a
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  Speaker 1: greater understanding on how you were raised. And unfortunately, that
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  Speaker 1: shaped who you are today. So I appreciated that because
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm hard on Heather, but this did shed
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  Speaker 1: light on her to me. What do you think? Million percent.
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  Speaker 3: I got choked up on that scene a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't cry or anything, but I did get like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I lost both of my parents and I
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  Speaker 2: went through one with cancer and one with some brain disease.
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  Speaker 3: We don't even know yet. They still have her brain.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully they'll figure it out one day.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, it's like I had to be that sandwich
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  Speaker 2: that Heather was talking about. And I related so much
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  Speaker 2: because it's like you are a parent to your kids
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  Speaker 2: and now you're being a parent to your parent who
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  Speaker 2: parented you. It's the weirdest start like stage of life
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  Speaker 2: to be in. But I thought both her and Terry are, like,
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  Speaker 2: really handling it well. And thank God they have each other.
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  Speaker 2: And it is so freaking hard. And I loved that
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  Speaker 2: they opened up to that. Neither of them had to.
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  Speaker 2: But I see Heather, like, her mom in her. Like,
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  Speaker 2: she thinks she's all– she's like, I'm such a warm person.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, are you?
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  Speaker 2: Like, I don't feel like that from her either. So
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  Speaker 2: maybe other people in America do. Maybe other cast members do.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think she's, you know, her mom did,
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  Speaker 2: you know, create her and make her who she was.
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  Speaker 2: And it would really stink to be, have your feelings
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  Speaker 2: suppressed as a kid, right? You can't cry at a
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  Speaker 2: movie or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: That would be a really, if I was that kid,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what that would have done to me.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I needed, my mom was all
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  Speaker 2: free and spirit and everything, you know, spirit, like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: hippie kind of like love, just everyone love.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what you love. I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: I'd be if my mom would have been.
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  Speaker 2: Like, stop crying. Is that a tear? Grow up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Get a muscle. No, my mom was the same way.
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  Speaker 1: My mother, listen, my mother was somebody that was, she was,
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  Speaker 1: to me, the definition of love, right? Oh, and by
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  Speaker 1: the way, our poll from last week about women.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: 100% said if they had a choice, they would be
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  Speaker 1: a stay-at-home mom.
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  Speaker 2: No, they did not.
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  Speaker 1: 100%. 100%.
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  Speaker 2: So if we had 49 comments, all 49 said yes.
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  Speaker 1: Said yes.
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  Speaker 2: Carlos, that is baffling to me because I have friends
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  Speaker 2: who would kind of make fun of me and be like,
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  Speaker 2: I would never be a stay-at-home mom. I could not
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  Speaker 2: handle what you do. So I can't even believe that.
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  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Because I do think this. Listen, I'm a feminist and
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  Speaker 1: I want every woman to live their best life and
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  Speaker 1: to be everything God created them to be. I do think, though,
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  Speaker 1: and the reason why I know this is because I've
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  Speaker 1: worked with Housewives. I've worked with other reality stars. My
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  Speaker 1: business is ran by women, and some have children, some don't.
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  Speaker 1: And what I will say is I've always been told this.
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  Speaker 1: My friends who were raised by their moms or their grandmothers,
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  Speaker 1: to be better than them and to be this working woman...
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  Speaker 1: They all said, Carlos, I woke up and I was
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  Speaker 1: 40 years old with no kids. And that's my biggest
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  Speaker 1: regret in life because I was chasing my career. And
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  Speaker 1: then for my friends who are career mothers, they have
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  Speaker 1: said to me, if I didn't have to work to
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  Speaker 1: take care of my family, I would be a stay-at-home mom.
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  Speaker 1: So I think, I think, I think, listen, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying let's go backwards or I'm not even saying
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  Speaker 1: that that's going backwards. Right. I think it's your own
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  Speaker 1: individual choice. But what I, what I am saying is
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of women, if, if, if given
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  Speaker 1: the choice at a certain age, I, I, I think
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  Speaker 1: you'll be surprised. And I was surprised. They all said, yes.
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  Speaker 3: I wish America would take that poll.
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  Speaker 2: Not just us. I mean, we got, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: have what, 2 million listeners. It's like, we're a little
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  Speaker 2: pee over the pot of everybody, but like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a feminist. I'm not a manist. I'm an equalist.
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  Speaker 3: I want to, I think everything should be equality.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you're a man or whatever, but
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  Speaker 2: I cannot believe that, that I cannot believe that poll.
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  Speaker 1: I'm baffled.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also loving it because I'm also thinking, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the pendulum always swings one way or the other.
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  Speaker 3: And, and so we.
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  Speaker 2: Went through this heavy feminist move where, Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Women should be working.
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  Speaker 2: They should never be. Maybe now everyone's like waking up
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  Speaker 2: and going, Oh, well, We do like the stay at
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  Speaker 2: home mom idea. Maybe, you know, it's not that a
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  Speaker 2: man's better than a woman, but a man can be
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  Speaker 2: a breadwinner and the woman can stay at home and
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  Speaker 2: everyone's still, you know, that's.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I feel. That's honestly how I feel.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Stay at home mom is a hard fricking job. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: It is hard. You wake up, you, you, you never
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  Speaker 2: get off the clock out. You're on a day to
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  Speaker 2: day job. You can clock out nine to five. You're done.
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  Speaker 2: Put your clock out and you're done. You don't get
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  Speaker 2: a day off or any moment off. You don't have
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  Speaker 2: time to be sick. You don't have time to do
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  Speaker 2: anything because you're doing all of it all day long
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  Speaker 2: with the kids.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. No, I agree with you 1000%. So I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to share that. But no, even when Heather said
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  Speaker 1: to Terry that she did not think she was smart
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  Speaker 1: until she met him and how Terry made her feel
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  Speaker 1: smart from their first date and growing up, Heather was
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  Speaker 1: coined as the talented one while her sister was known
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  Speaker 1: as the smart one. And because they had those divine archetypes,
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  Speaker 1: their parents wanted their careers to be based on that.
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  Speaker 1: And she made a comment saying that, you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: this old saying that you marry your unfinished business. So
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about that. Do you agree
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  Speaker 1: with that, that you marry your unfinished business?
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  Speaker 2: Wonder I can't even place myself at my first marriage
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  Speaker 2: like with Jim I was too young to even you
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  Speaker 2: know and got married way too fast with my first
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  Speaker 2: little one-year blip but um for Jim I don't even
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  Speaker 2: know but with John I definitely don't feel he's my
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  Speaker 2: unfinished business I feel like I married him because first
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  Speaker 2: of all we just kind of completed each other but
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  Speaker 2: we have such similar stories that it was like it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't that we we you know completed each other's business
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  Speaker 2: it's almost more like no one can understand everything I've
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  Speaker 2: been through as much as him because.
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  Speaker 3: He kind of went through the same. It's almost like
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: we were.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I do. I can see though in a marriage where
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: you do marry your unfinished business. I totally, when Heather
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: said that it was like a light bulb. I'm like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: that could be a thing that totally, because it draws
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: you to, because you're getting from that person, what you
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: didn't get from your parent, you know, but John and I,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: John gives me a lot of what my mom would
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: have gave me. John gives me a lot of everything,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: like the support I need.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: For me, that's the case.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's so interesting. It's funny because I would
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: say that one of the things that my sisters would say,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I have three sisters, and they all said we did
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: marry someone like our dad. Like, there's a little bit
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: of characteristic that that is, and I thought it was
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: so interesting that that was that.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: But does that mean, but if they married somebody like
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: their dad, it means they respected their dad. They were
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: looking for someone like their dad. But does that mean
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: that's unfinished business?
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I know that's the thing. That's the thing. That's why
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: the unfinished business I'm not too sure about. I've never
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: heard that personally.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I get it. In Terry and Heather and Terry's situation,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I can totally see how they were each other's unfinished business.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: And also they got married very young, right?
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: But so I just don't know about like for your sister's,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: And my son did not marry unfinished business.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: He married someone very much like me. I mean, she
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: is like me.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Like you? Oh my gosh.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: She is so much like me.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Very headstrong, very driven, can watch out she's going to
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: run the shit.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I was so impressed just watching her wedding.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I really got to see so much more of her.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: She was a kid when I met her. She was 15.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, You married your mom, honey. She's
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: going to take care of you, and she's got it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: That's good. No, I love that. I love that. I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: love that. I also think that's how it should be,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you. This is Reality with the King,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I thought this scene was special because I felt like
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I got a chance to know Heather a little bit more,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and as a viewer, I always appreciate these personal story scenes, so...
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I said that. So the
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: ladies are at an event. And honey, Vicky and Tamara. OK.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: So Vicky went to the doctor and got an exam.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: And there's white spots floating around in her brain via
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the x-ray. She does tell Tamara, don't tell anybody. Right?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Tamara then... Tamara, I love you, dot, dot, dot. But, Tamara,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: you were wrong.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: She don't even care that you say that.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, Tamara, I love you. You were absolutely wrong.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: If someone tells you not to say anything... I know
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you're trying to defend her, but you said it. And
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: to me, this is very black and white. Tamara should
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: not have repeated what she was told in confidence by Vicky.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Full stop, that's my opinion and my Tamara voice. So
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Vicky made a joke to Tamara like, oh my gosh,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I'm brain damaged, right? Because you know Vicky, Vicky over-exaggerates.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: So she's like, oh my gosh, I'm brain damaged. Tamara
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: tells the girls that, how she's going through something serious,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: all these things. and reveals it to the girls. Emily
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: does tell Tamara that Vicky said their friendship is toxic.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And then we flash back to a moment where Vicky
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: did just say she doesn't voluntarily walk into toxic friendships.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And with Tamara, Tamara has done things to her that
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: she felt was toxic. But in my opinion, I thought
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: she was talking about the past, not the present. But
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Emily told her that Tamara gets upset and says that
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Vicky did things to her. And in her confessional, Tamara
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: does say that Vicky is not a good person. And
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: how Vicky is the one who pretty much said on
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: her own podcast that she's a bad mother because she
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: chose fame over her daughter. Um, Very harsh words. I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: think Vicky was wrong for saying that too. I think
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: these are two incidents, in my opinion, that were both
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: in the past. And that's why it's hard to... And
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: when I say both incidents, I mean what Vicky said
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: about Tamara being toxic. I thought that was in the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: past tense. And what Vicky did to Tamara was in
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the past. That's why when it comes to these situations,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: you have to find a way to get past it
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: or it will unearth again. But more importantly, Tamara was 1000%
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: wrong to me for telling the girls what Vicky said
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: not to repeat.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, so here's another way to look at it, though.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: The one thing I know about Tamara is because of
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: everything she knows about me and we filmed season 18 together.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: If you say don't say anything to Tamara and it
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: has not been on camera. done on camera, like this
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: brain scan was on national television. Vicki gave the approval
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: to do it on national television. It's going to be shown.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: If it hadn't been, and they'd done it in private,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Tamara would never have said a word.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I know Tamara because I, she has information, a lot
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: of information that has never been disclosed even to this day.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: And she's still filming a show and my name is
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: still getting brought up and she does not say anything
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: about it. She has many opportunities too, but because they
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: did this on national television, filming it on the show,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I think Tamara said, even though Vicky was, I don't know.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I have not talked to Tamara about this. Please let
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: me preface with that. But in my mind, I'm sitting
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: there going, they did it. So it's going to be
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: aired in about four months. So what's it matter if
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I bring it up with the girls, even though Vicky said,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: don't tell anyone because why would Vicky have even done
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: it if she didn't want it to be aired?
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: But you're right.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Even though Vicky did say that and she did do
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: it on national television, she should, Tamara should not have
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: still said it. But that was just what went through
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: my mind when this all played out. The other thing is, yes,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Vicky flubbed up and should never have said those things
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: about Tamara. Like, and everyone thinks they know the story
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: between Tamara and her daughter and they don't really know it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely off limits there.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: You're right. Yeah, and I also just think when it
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: comes to, here's the thing. Yes, if it's said on camera,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: then there is a school of thought of, But it
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: happened on camera. So it's not a secret. I know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I know. But I also think, hear me out. I
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: do also think that's why Vicky told her, don't say
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: anything because I know it's on camera and I know
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: what your rule is. You see what I'm saying? I
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: think that's why Vicky said it on camera. Like, I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: know you. Because this is on camera, you feel the
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: need to tell people. But I'm asking you, don't tell people.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And I am on Vicky's side when it comes to
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: anything medical. Because Vicky's kind of a hypochondriac. You know
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: what I mean? I feel like she's... And I have... Listen,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the reason why I will say that is because I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: recognize it. I have a little bit of that too.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: If I.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I would say that. Yeah. I'm like, oh my gosh.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm so not a hypochondriac. I'll go around with
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: my pinky dangling off.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh no.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Your finger needs sewed back on.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Life's going to be like, oh really?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: No.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Okay. Oh no, girl. Girl, I overdid it with pushups.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: And girlfriend, I thought I was like in dire need
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: of a blood transfusion. I'm like, what is happening? Yeah.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my God.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Call it up all your concierge doctors and IV people.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Bring me the IV. Oh, concierge doctor, I think I
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: tore my muscle. No, no, I broke my bite. I
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: broke my check pack.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't. What's happening to me? I literally Googled it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a hypochondriac. So that's why I get
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Vicky like, I think Vicky saw that shit and said, Tamara,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you bitch. Don't say anything because I don't need this
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: fucking cast to use that against me. When they're trying
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: to shade me. Got it.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: How many, first of all, how many weeks before you
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: did pushups again?
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, first of all, you want to laugh some more?
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: This happened Monday.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: On your birthday week, you farted.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Here I go.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: It's just size. I'm getting old.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: It's God reminding you. It is your birthday, Carlos. You
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: got to change a couple things of it. You know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: you got to eat less sugar. You got to drink
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: one less cocktail a week. You got to do one
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: less workout a week.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, God. Getting old. My girl, I just, I need
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: some help. And I'm like, please, please, whatever you do,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: help me. So, but I did feel that. But the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: good thing is this. Tamara did approach Vicky and say,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: let's talk. Because Vicky was avoiding her all night. And
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Vicky got emotional and she's like, look, I don't want
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you to say anything about my medical issues to anybody. Like,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I just I just don't want that. I don't need
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: that in my life. Look, I could barely walk down
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the stairs. My knee hurts. You know what I mean? Like.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Let's focus on my knee, not my brain.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Like, I don't mind people knowing that because I'm
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: in a wheelchair half the damn time. Or a fucking scooter. Hey,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Kim Zosiac. But the thing is, she's visibly upset about this.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: And I get it. And I understand it. But I
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: do appreciate Tamra apologizing. Yeah. Saying, like, I get it.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: And I'm sorry. Yeah.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: And that's what you have to do.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: That's what you have to do.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: You have to make an excuse that she just said,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Shouldn't have done it.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. My bad, girl. Won't do it again.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: All good. So I wish she would have said, though,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: but Vicky, you should have done this with me off camera.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Then if you don't want it because it was going
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Yes. No, exactly. Exactly. So I appreciate that from Tamara.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Now we got to get to Emily and Shane scene.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Oh boy. So at this party, Shane left early to
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: take care of the kids. And what we have learned
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: this season is Shane takes care of the kids. And
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: this is going to be a very interesting topic for
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: you and I to discuss because you, a stay-at-home mom
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that was also a full-time reality star. And No one
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to me can speak on this but you because you
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: lived this with young children when you started on the show. Shane,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and I'm saying this based on the scenes with Emily present.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: So I'm not saying anything to mom Shane. I'm not
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: mom shaming. Emily has agreed that Shane takes on most
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: of the bulk of the work when it comes to
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the children, right? She admits to that. He left the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: party early. I got the kids. You hang out. Which translation?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: You film. You're the housewife.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I'm letting you work. Which is why I did not
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: understand why Emily was being such a hard ass to Shane.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Because I felt like what Shane was saying to her is,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I've accepted that this is your job. And I've accepted
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that this is a full-time job you love. You love it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Let me take on some of the slack when it
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: comes to the kids. And I think when it comes
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: to Emily, I think Emily feels guilty because she's not
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: there and how that will make her look. And because
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Shane isn't giving her attitude in some weird way, No, Emily,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Shane is not the one sitting in the complaining as
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: a martyr. That's you. You want him to yell at you.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: You want him to be upset. You want him to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: give you reason to stop. And he's not doing it
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: because he's accepted this dynamic now that you're a housewife.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: And I feel like Shane is such a sweetheart to
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: do that because I don't know many husbands who would
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: take on the slack. But he does it without complaint.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: And she takes it like, you're just not saying anything.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And I want you to talk to me. He's not
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: trying to argue with you because he's accepted it. He
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't mind doing it. But you want him to argue.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: And I felt like what Emily was doing in that
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: scene was trying to flip how she feels. Yes. You
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: feel guilty as a mother. So right.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't think of it that way. But when you
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: think back to that scene.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: You're so right.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: She's portraying or projecting.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Projecting.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Projecting is the word. Because I totally didn't look at
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: it that way. What I looked at it is she
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: has resting bitch face.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: She's never happy. She doesn't like her marriage. She doesn't
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: like her job.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: She doesn't like anything. That's how I took it. But
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: it's not that. You're right. She is projecting on him
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: because she feels guilty and she wants to somehow turn
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: it back on him. That is.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Wow. Wow.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: She wants to somehow be like, oh, no, it's you, Shane.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: You're the problem. When really, all of it's.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Internal in her.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Yes. She got a new body. And now what?
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Do you want a new husband? Like, is that what
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: you're trying to shoot him out the door?
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Can we talk? Okay. I do think
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: she wants a new husband. Well... Wow.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I was just kind of saying that because I was
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: like going down the list of things. I'm like, well,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: she's got all these things going for her. Why is
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: she picking on him? Okay, hold on. You know what
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: she said about me? You know what she said about
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: me that was brought onto this?
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: She goes, every pot needs a lid or something like that.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. I got it, girls. I wrote it down.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Every trash can needs a lid.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Every girl wants a trust fund kid.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: She found Shane and now it's backfiring on her.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Oh!
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: If you think she wants a new husband... Oh, my God.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Carlos left the scene.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: The podcast's over.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: What?
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: What are you.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, like, I can't even believe you
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: thought that. What are you doing? I do not know
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: what you're doing, but you're freaking me out right now.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Please sit down.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: You... That's called a dance because, baby, you are stepping
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: all over the floor with that.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I mean... But why? I can't believe it. I mean,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: why is she putting so much anger towards him when
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: he does seem like he's just literally picking up the
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: pieces and trying to do the best he can and
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: gave up his career to help?
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: What's that?
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: What does that mean? Tie me in when you're ready. Okay, go. Yes.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, Carlos, go.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Okay. Emily wants a new husband and she wants Shane
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: to yell at her on camera so that when she
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: files for divorce, she has evidence because she's a lawyer
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and And she needs proof and evidence as a lawyer
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: to present her case to the judge and to the audience,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: which are the court of public opinion and the court
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: of law that I'm divorcing my husband because you see
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: that he yells at me and he resents me from working.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: And that's a storyline she needs to have in order
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to feel comfortable filing the divorce papers so that she
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: can show people in her life this is why i'm
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: doing it and shane isn't falling for the okie doke
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: because he's smarter than you now granted he passed the
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: bar after 10 times of trying it but he he
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: he knows what you're doing and he's not falling for
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: your trick that's why he's like answer the door you
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: want to talk to them instead of like dealing with this.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Oh my god i cannot even if emily wants a
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: divorce if you.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Okay i'm sorry america.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I don't i never knew you thought this or this
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: was going here and i didn't see listen i am
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: in no you're right that's.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Why you're my favorite the thing is this alexis jansen
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: what it's been bubbling up my thoughts of this like
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: You're so mean to this guy. Like, what is it?
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: And his family's paying for you, girlfriend. Your job ain't
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: paying a ton.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: It's his mom and dad taking care of y'all.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Why are you being mean to the guy that's putting
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the bread on your table?
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, Vicky, you got the wrong bitch. It's not Terry
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Dubrow that's a trust funder. It's fucking Emily Simpson.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: No, it's Shane.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: It's not Emily.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Well, no, courtesy, Vicky.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: It's Shane. Shane is a trust fund, baby, not Terry.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: And Emily Simpson is a conduit of it. Let me
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: tell you something. I see right through Emily Simpson. Emily,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: because it's so typical of some, not all, some reality stars.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: When Emily started the show, she looks extremely different than
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: she does now.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: But she still wasn't happy then either. And she's still
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: not happy now. So nothing changed.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Well, things changed. Physically. It's because the.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Inside needs work. She needs to go get a facelift inside, okay?
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: It's got to go into your core. Jesus Christ in
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: your life.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: We need to see if there's white cells floating around
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: that brain.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Well, probably mine too, okay? My mom had a brain disease.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I don't even want to go get that scan because
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: if I've got anything my mom had, I'm going to
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: be taking a bottle of Ambien night-night. Y'all love y'all.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Do not go through what my mom went through.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: I don't want you to watch what happened to my
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: mom happen to me.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. All jokes aside, I think because Emily looks
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: like a different person, I think her confidence is... I
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: think her confidence feels like she can do better than Shane.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: So sad.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I know. You know what, Carlos?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Thinking about this on an outsider, They haven't ever... I
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: said this last week or the week before. They haven't
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: ever really had that lovey-dovey kind of... Neither of them.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sure Shane doesn't want to lose his kids. No
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: one wants a divorce. I feel really bad going there
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: about that, but you're the one.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: No, I went there.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I know, but I feel bad because I come from that.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I had to share my kids 50% for a year
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: of my life, and it was the worst fucking year
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: of my life. Sorry I said the F-bomb, but I
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: will drop the F-bomb for something like that.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: It was the worst year ever.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: But I....
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I just don't think he would want to go there
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: and I would never wish this upon them. I hope
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: that this isn't the case. And maybe they were just
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: trying to make good TV and it flopped because Carlos
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: King read right through it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm just saying, she's so mean
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: to him that everybody in America is sort of like,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to find out what he did to deserve it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: We're all kind of confused.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Like, right.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. We don't know a lot of
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: husbands who don't mind taking the slack and is telling
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: you without saying to you, you have to film. It's okay.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I'll go stay in work this. So that's how I felt.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: By the way, Carlos, no husband, mark my words for
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: when we get to the scene with John and I,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: no husband really wants to be there.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: They are doing it for their wife.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: So Shane actually went home.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Besides Terry Dubrow.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: No, I don't even, I think he even, he likes
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: the camera. Yeah, but I even think he, I mean,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: they walk away. Anytime the cameras come on, the women talking,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: all the husbands scatter like ants.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Like they're like, bye.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: You know, but I don't think Shane was like, oh gosh,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I have to go home and leave the party.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I think he was probably like, God, thank God I
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: get to go home.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: You know, like.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I don't want to.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: You're the one on TV, not me.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: You're filming. I'm not, you know, kind of thing. So
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: he's a good guy.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I like Shane. And I think he's funny and witty.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I've always.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I like him, too. And the thing is this. I've
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: always liked him because I always got his sarcasm. Uh-huh.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: I think you have to be able to do that, though.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: You have to be able to do sarcasm. It's dry.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: It's dry humor.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: It's dry.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: And not everybody can understand that.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. So... Tamara has a party to celebrate the
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: new product of her line.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Are we not going to say one word about Emily
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Simpson's husband's parents' party? And the $ 120, 000 at least they
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: spent on that party?
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I did the math.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: No, we don't have to. We don't have to waste
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: the time. But I'm just saying, I just wanted to
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: give the parents props. That was at least a $ 120, 000 party.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: The champagne girl alone, because I had a champagne tower
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: at my 40th. And the champagne tower, I don't know
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: what you have to pay to have one twirling around
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: in a diamond, but my champagne tower was like 15,000
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: to have the girl come stand and you have the champagne,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: they should pour the champagne. And it's like this huge
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: arch or whatever, 10, maybe 10,000. I don't something around there.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: It was a lot.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: So I did the.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Math of this party and they dropped a hundred thousand plus.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: And it was gorgeous. Was that party not insane?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: It was absolutely stunning. And listen, it just goes to
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: show you that, Hey, They absolutely did something right. I'm
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: all for it. I'm all for it. I love it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it. So
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: there you go. There you go. Okay. So Tamara's party.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: It was a reunion of sorts. You know, we got
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: a chance to see a lot of former housewives show up.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: We got Joe. Elizabeth Vargas is there. It was a
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: lot of people that, you know, we know and love
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: that showed up.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Like 20. It was like a lot. I mean, Fernanda.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: There's a lot.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of women.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, a lot of women. And look, we're celebrating 20 seasons.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: And I thought this was a great show. opportunity to
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: show all of the former housewives to celebrate Tamra, who
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: is our season three OG. Alexis.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: With a couple of resting years, but yeah.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: You know, two, but who's counting? Alexis shows up with
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: her husband, John. I'm talking about you like you're not
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: even here.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Well, this is where it's going to get weird, guys.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: You got to forgive me and stay with me on
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: this because I've never podcast.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: About one of my own episodes before.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: So I don't know how this is going to play out.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Just God be with me. Lord have mercy.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: So Alexis is there and you look gorgeous. You with John.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: He looks handsome. You, you know, you're talking to Tamara.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Tamara's like, did you not speak to Heather? And you're like,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like, I gave kisses. You know,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I gave kisses. And the cameras flashed back to you
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: giving kisses, you know, when Heather waved and said hi
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: to you from a distance.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: But what did you see at first when the cameras
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: were on me when they showed Heather and then they
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: showed me?
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: What did you see?
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: So when they first showed you and they showed Heather,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: it did appear that you did not speak.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: So what happened at that moment is I was getting
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: ready to walk and production behind the camera was like,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: one of the producers was like, you guys have to wait.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: You're in hold right now.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: You're in the holding.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: You know the proper term for that. So then I
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: go like this and I back up and I'm like, okay.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, so I'm.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Not walking now.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: So in my mind, by the way, Carlos, I want
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: to preface this entire segment of the podcast with, I
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: was nervous as hell to go to that party. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: did not want to go because of what had happened
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: with what was shown on season 18. So I didn't
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: want it to happen again where it wasn't a full
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: scene shown. I didn't even mic up Carlos. I walked
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: into that party and I signed the waiver, which was
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: my mistake. I should not have signed it. I signed
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: the waiver and then they go, okay, Alexis, come over here.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: We're going to mic you. We're so excited to see you.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: I go, I'm not going to mic up guys. I'm
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: just here for Tamara. I'm not going to mic up.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I did not even put a mic on because I
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: was there to support Tamara. I'm fine if I'm in
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: the background waving. I'm fine. So then they follow me
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the entire effing time with a boom. And I was like, okay,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: this is really annoying. Like, why are you, I'm not
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: here to be any spectacle. I'm not a paid cast member.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I'm just here to support my girlfriend and her job.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: And I almost backed out. three times from coming to
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: the party and Tamara begged me to come. So let's
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: preface it with that. So then we're there and we're
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: getting ready to walk up and I see everybody coming
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: out and I'm seeing the carpet that I have to
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: go be a part of. And as we're walking, they
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: then go, oh no, no, hold on, Lex, hold on
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: for a second.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, okay.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: So then I back up and then I get closer
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: to John and move this way because I'm supposed to stop.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: That was what you see when I kind of look down.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Then when I regain myself and everything's there, that's when
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, hi everybody. Okay, yeah, like I'll be
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: down in a second. Like I'm coming, they have me holding.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Continue with your questions.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Okay. Let me ask you this first. Why were you
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: reluctant in showing up to this event?
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Because of, well, first of all, it's like, you know,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I knew all the cast were going to be there.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: And I'm friends with 95 of 100 of the people
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: at that party. There's 100 people at that party. 95
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: of them I get along with. There's a couple that
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: are obviously friends. anti me from season 18 or team
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Shannon or whatever it is, which I don't even understand it.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: You don't have to be team anybody at 50 years old.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: We can just be happy with.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Whoever we like. But, um, so I was just like, Tamara,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I don't want to cause a scene there. I don't want,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I know, you know, Shannon's going to muffle under her breath.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Of course, like she did.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, we're old. I've been married a year now.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I are, you know, I've been married seven months at
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: that point, six months. I don't want to make anything
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: of your party about me coming in.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: I just don't.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: And she was like, no, no, no, no, no. So
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: in my mind, when we're going there in the Uber,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just not going.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: To mic up, babe.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: And we'll just be there and we'll just have fun.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: And we'll just be there to support Tamara. They can
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: show me you in the background. I won't mic up
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: because I don't want to be involved in any of
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: the drama. So now continue and you'll understand more as
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: we progress.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. So after they flash back to that, they do
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: cut to... They cut to Tamara then telling Heather... Are
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: you mad at Alexis? What's going on? And she's like,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And Tamara's like, you should
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: go talk to her. So then, no, no, no, I'm sorry,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I went too far. Before that, Tamara is
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: trying to ask you, what's happening? And you say, Tamara,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. And then
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: you proceed to leave. Talk to us about that. Because
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: as a producer, what I got from that moment was...
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: And listen, let's be honest here. And this is no
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: shade to Tamara. I do feel like you probably felt
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: in that moment, Tamara, don't try to give this moment
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: a scene. I'm not here to work. I'm not getting
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: paid to be here. I'm not a housewife. I'm here
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: to support you. I don't even have a microphone on. Like,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: don't do this. Do not make this a moment to
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: where there's drama at my expense.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: A million percent. And because I was already so nervous
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: to go at the beginning, I just, the minute that
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: that happened, I'd literally only been there for, so what
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: you didn't see is, which I'll post next week. They
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: have this little red carpet when you first get there.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: And so you go and you do a little drink
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: from the can. There's nothing in there, by the way.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I never had one drop of her THC. God, I
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: wish I would have, because maybe I wouldn't have cried.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: but I didn't have one drop of it. They give
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: you the can to act like you're drinking and it's
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: all for promo, right?
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: It's all for fun.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: And so I did the red carpet, had a bunch
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: of fun, had a lot of laughs, talked a lot.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: And then I'm back to holding up spot number two. Okay.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Holding spot number two is where Tamara comes to me
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: and goes, did you give Heather a dirty look? And
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I said, I am not doing this. And that's when
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I looked at, in my mind, I was like, I
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: instantly almost tears came because I was like, here we are.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't mic up.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to come to have any kind of
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: national television spotting just other than a high in the
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: background like I'm in the I'm like a fly on
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: the wall kind of thing and so that's when I
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: tap Jim and I or John excuse me before I
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: didn't sleep I tap John and say honey I'm out
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I'm done and he you know he he was calm
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: cool and collected of course but like I was already
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: spiraling at that point because I was like I never
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: should have come I knew it my gut told me
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: in the car always listen to your gut and I
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: knew I shouldn't have gone And so that's why, yeah.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: So that's where that happens. And you're absolutely right about it.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Everything you said, I didn't want to give a moment.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to have any light drawn to that.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: If I gave her a dirty look or not, who
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: cares if I would have fucking flipped her off?
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't care.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Just don't, I don't want to have a part of this,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: any of the scenery. I don't want to be, I
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have gone is the bottom line. So I'll take
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: responsibility for it.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: When you saw Tamra, go talk to Heather and tell Heather,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: because at this point you left and you're visibly upset, right?
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: You're getting emotional. Then we see Tamara tell Heather while
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: she's around Shannon, where Shannon left a comment about the
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: trash can comment, which by the way, when you heard
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: what Shannon said about you, did that piss you off?
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Well, Emily's the one that made the comment about the
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: trash can. But I was just laughing about Shannon because
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, my God, I'm married to him. Like,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I know you don't have a boyfriend, but get over us. Like,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: just stop talking about it. Like, so I kind of
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: chuckled at that scene because I'm like, oh, my God,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: she's still. First of all, why are they even talking
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: about me in the car ride? Like, Heather had it
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: out for me from the beginning in the car. She's
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: telling Terry, oh, Alexis is going to show up. Maybe
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Alexis is gone. And she's like, I was like, you know.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: She must have had this already in her mind that
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: she was going to make something about me. But by
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: the way, Carlos, I didn't know filming that, that this
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: was going to be a boring season and that she
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: needed something to, someone to kick while they're all, you know,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: like to kick to make it a better season. So
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: then I got it and I was like, oh, you're welcome, everybody.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: You should be glad I showed up. You're welcome for
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: the ratings and for the fact that I was a
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: total train wreck because I didn't want to be a
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: part of it. But I didn't see, I didn't see
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Tamara go talk to Heather. I just went outside and
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: John and I were in the process of calling an Uber.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Cause when you're not a castmate, you don't get a
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: car to bring you to the event. Right.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: So we had to Uber ourselves, a black car. So
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I was trying to black.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Car as home.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: And then, you know, that's when Heather came back outside.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: So that's when you.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So then Heather, Well, I do know the audience
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: wants me to ask you this first before I proceed
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: to what happened outside. When you saw Tamara encourage Heather
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: to talk to you, did you feel that Tamara was
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: trying to make a moment happen between the two of you?
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: No, I think, and I haven't talked to Tamara about this,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: by the way. They're filming the reunion today and I
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: just watched the episode last night, so I haven't talked
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: to her, but We texted a little bit last night,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: but I know she's in a mental place. So I
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: didn't want to call her and ask her about any
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: of the scene. But I took it as Tamara was
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: really literally trying to get Heather because Tamara knew or
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: thought that Heather and I are somewhat amicable and we
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: could like work it through. I think she was just like,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: just go out and tell Alexis. Don't I don't want
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Alexis to leave. Just go get her and tell her
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: to come back in. It was Heather's the way she
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: handled it that I then, you know, reacted even more
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: So. So what happened was Heather comes out and in
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: this moment, which is so interesting because you're visibly upset
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: and Heather did make a comment and I do want
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this because I was curious
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: if you felt that Heather was trying to do a
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: dig And this is what you guys exchange was about, okay?
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: So you say that, so Heather's like, you didn't speak
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: to me. Alexis says, you're so caught up in your
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: world that you, and before you could finish, Heather interrupts
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: you and says, and spins it out in the press.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: And then you're like, you know what, girl? What did
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Heather mean by that? What comment is she referring to
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: that she feels you take on the press?
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: She will remember when they were back inside. I'm not
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: sure because I don't talk to Heather. Obviously, you know,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: we were not made up. But she back inside, she said, oh, well,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Alexis got mad at.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Me because I'll watch what happens live.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: I said it was a hard I'm trying to remember everything.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: So forgive me if I don't have it perfect. It
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: was a hard it was a hard invite that she
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: gave me for the wedding. because I'm friends with Shannon and, and, and,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: and what she left out of that is on watch
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: what happens live. Not only did she say it's a
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: hard invite, she also said at another time, well, John
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: and Alexis, we're not really, Terry and I aren't really
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: friends with John and Alexis. Although I have videos and
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: as a couple, what the hell does that even mean?
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Like we, we had been out many times, not work related,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: but just out in settings. So whatever. I obviously was
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: very wrong about thinking that Heather was ever my friend.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: And I want.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: To say for the record, you invited her to your wedding.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: But also when I got married, she only started not
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: liking me when the audience started not liking me. Like
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: we were very close even during filming. We were, you know,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: she was trying to be there. We were on the
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: phone nonstop. The reason she had information that she disclosed
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: she never should have is because we were on the
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: phone as friends with John and I with her talking
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: about things and she had private information. And so, you know,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: all of it's kind of just really effed up because
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: of the fact that she's inside and she says those
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: things on Watch What Happens Live. And then she goes,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: so Alexis decides to go on a press tour and
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: call me feckless. And I'm like, OK, I didn't go
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: on a press tour and I'm not looking for fame.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's projection.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: But I went on Tamara's podcast. I simply went on
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: one podcast. Who's my good friend and had a podcast
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: and her name got brought up. And that's a world
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: tour of, of press tour. No, sweetheart.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't go to page six KTLA.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: I didn't do the whole thing that Bravo sets you
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: up for. I went on one podcast, said something that's
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: somewhat true about you.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: You didn't like it.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: So now you're really going to hate me even more
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: and go after me because you have the platform, whatever.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: So when I was outside, I'm sitting there going, Oh,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: you're going to take that one little podcast.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: I'd already heard.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: She thought I was on a press tour because she
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: said it before another. And I'm like, okay, you, you're,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: completely senile at this point. Like there's nothing about me
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: doing a press tour. I simply called her feckless on
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: one thing, meaning she lacks initiative, like character, like a
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: little bit of character. Um, because of the fact that
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: she couldn't just say, why can't you be friends and
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: go to a wedding?
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Even though you're friends with Shannon, I'm like, we're 50
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: year old women. We are, I'm sorry.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: She's older.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: We are over 50 year old women. Why the hell
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: are we still worried about whose wedding we go to?
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: And if it's okay, if another friend, if any friend
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: tells me who I can and cannot be friends with,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: there's the door.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Like I said to Shannon, but door, there's the door.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: If you want to tell me who my friends are
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: going to be. So I don't know. I'm baffled by
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: the whole scene. It really ticked me off. I was
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: bad then. And what's funny is watching it back. I'm
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: just as mad now.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Cause it is true.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: It's like, why, why do I owe you an excuse?
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Why do I owe you anything?
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: When she walks outside like, oh, why did you not
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: tell me?
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Did you give me? If you would have just done this,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: then it would have been OK.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: You are not Mary of Jesus. I'm sorry.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: It's like I don't owe you anything. You thought I
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: gave you a dirty look. Well, I think you're being
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: mean to me right now. And I think you were
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: just using me for a plot. Do you want me
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: to say that? I think you were just using me.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: I'm another guinea pig. I'm not a cast member. It
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: makes you, it's easy for you to just use me
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: and John because, oh, we're there and oh, we're stirring
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: it up. And by the way, my husband didn't even
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: want to go. I had to pay him under the
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: table to go.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: We're in favor.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Literally under the table.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: And that's why you're celebrating your anniversary tomorrow.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: And we are on our anniversary.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. Cause you know how to keep a man happy, honey. Yes.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I will say this cause you raise a good point.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: You raise a good point. And this is why I
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: love not just having you to talk about, you know,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: this show, but, But particularly this scene, because I don't
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: think the audience understands that when you see one thing,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: it means more than what meets the eye. I'm glad
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: you brought the fact that in the car, Heather brought
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: your name up. Well, you know, Alexis is going to
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: be there because I want you guys to really understand
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: what Alexis is saying. She's saying is, I'm not a
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: cast member. I'm not a storyline this season. I'm just
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: going to support Tamra. Heather took her opportunity with cameras
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: in the car to bring up Alexis and, oh my gosh,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to see her and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: which sets up what's to come. And I need you
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: guys to put on your producer hat. What Heather was
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: doing in the car was setting up a potential moment
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: between her and Alexis. And that's why, guys, when Alexis
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: told Tamara... I'm not doing this. I see what's about
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: to happen. I can't even go and enjoy a fucking
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: hors d'oeuvre. I can't even like enjoy a fucking chicken
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: skewer without you guys wanting this moment between me and
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Heather where Heather and I live in the same coast.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Whether she's here filming and she goes back to her
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: penthouse in Beverly Hills, she's not calling me. I'm not
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: calling her. So you mean to tell me I'm showing
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: up And I have to deal with an argument as
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: a non-paid housewife? I understood it instantly.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: So I was excited. I'm like, okay, John, we're out.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Now we're going to go down to the montage and
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: listen to the piano bar and have a cocktail and
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: have a real meal.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Like, hello.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't get to try my friend's 10...
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: THC during VN, which I'm sure is amazing. But we'll
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: just go down to the montage because we look hot
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: as fuck right now. Y'all did.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Y'all actually did. Y'all look good.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: And by the way, we own that tux, just so
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: everyone knows. Because Shannon's like, well, I had to rent
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: him one.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Bitch, you had to borrow facelift money. You didn't need
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: to rent him anything. He could have afforded himself.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: He owns a tux.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: He owns two. But okay.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: So let's clear that record up too. Since everyone wanted
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: to do it. Mention it all, Alexis. He has four
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: pair of Ferragamo's, not just the one.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Mention it all, Alexis.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: It's like everybody just.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: By the way, he owns other shoe brands. It's not
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: just that brand.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: I know, when she says he went to Ferragamo, I
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: thought to myself, I'm not counting John's money. But I
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: think it's safe to assume he can afford more than
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: one pair of shoes.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, just hand you over $ 60, 000 for
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: your facelift, which, by the way, after I got mine,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, how'd she get that so cheap?
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: What did she do?
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: But anyway, good job.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: But if he can just hand you over the $ 60, 000,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: you think your little tux you rented him one time
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: or the hotel you helped buy one time or the
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: shoe you bought him mattered?
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, America. Get the reality.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: So Alexis, without giving too much away, what are we
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: in store for in the next episode? Because only, listen,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I know you don't like me saying this to you.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: So let me say it and you just sit there, okay?
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Alexis is that girl because of the fact that Alexis
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Jansen showed up for two seconds and was the episode
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: ender and the cliffhanger. To not respect her impact will
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: never not make sense to me. Because let's be clear,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Vargas was there, and she has a lot to
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: say on her podcast or YouTube channel, and nothing happened.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: The OG Joe was there, nothing happened. All these other
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: people were there. Alexa Jansen could not even get past
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: the step and repeat.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: And she's... Well, Carlos, in all due respect, none of
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: them married the guy that dumped another cast member.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: So... But! That was... But!
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. No. Let's not act like Gretchen
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: didn't marry a housewife's husband. You see what I'm saying? Well, Gretchen.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, Slade and Joe were never married.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: They were engaged.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: They were engaged.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Gretchen and Slade didn't marry.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: By the way, we found out it was a fake diamond.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: But anyway.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Does that count as an engagement?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: But anyway, um, so no, but, um, I know.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: But if Gretchen would have been there, there probably would
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: have been some kind of drama.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: Maybe they would have.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: It's just, so my point is, and that's why I
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: love Alexa because she's so humble, but I wanted the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: audience to understand my girl was the cliffhanger. The fucking cliffhanger.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: You know how bad I wished I would have just
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: not gone at all? Because I'm like, they get two
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: episodes out of me and I made this and all.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: I get is more hate.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Perfect.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: You're welcome, Bravo.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: You're welcome, Housewives. I'm glad that I brought a little
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: bit for you. Now, can I please just go back
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: to my normal life of podcasting with Carlos about other
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: people's scenes? Life's much easier when you're talking about other
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: people's scenes and what you're saying.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: It's much easier. It really is. Okay. Without giving too
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: much away. And listen, like you said, you don't know
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: what they're going to show. Is there more to come? Yes.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: And I'm hoping they don't show it, but I've heard
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: they probably are. So we will have a very interesting
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: podcast next week also.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: The real, real behind the camera.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Is it more dramatic than what we saw last night?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know because now you've already seen
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: me cry and that I did get really choked up
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: and how I literally, it's so weird, Carlos, because I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: can usually keep my, especially being on a television show,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: like I did Fox 5 News, you have to be
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: on and ready to go. Like, you know, I've done
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: things where you can contain your emotions. It went from
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: zero to a hundred just from Tamara going, did you
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: give Heather a dirty look?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Because I knew what was happening.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Um, so I don't really know on the next, they,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: they do talk me into going back in.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: I'll give this little teaser, which is good.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: They do. My husband included, um, Tamara, Joe, and my
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: husband all talked me into going back in and just said, look,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: you can't even tell I had such good makeup. I mean,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: she must've sprayed that, that stuff on really well. Cause not,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: not a tear penetrated my makeup. They're like, you can't
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: even tell you cried. Let's just go back in. Don't,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: you don't, don't, you know, don't show these housewives that
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: like go back in. Cause there's a hundred people that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: are friends with 95 of them. So four, three or
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: four or five of them don't kind of are iffy
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: and Carla Carmela doesn't know me. And you know, so whatever.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: So I was like, you're right.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of friends in there.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Especially my husband, like John was just like, babe, why
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: are you letting this affect you so much? I don't
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: get it.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: You're not even like this. Like what is going on?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: And I think he kind of knew deep down, but
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: then he just squeezed my hand.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: He's like, let's just go.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: We got this. And so then I go back in
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: and just wait. That's all I'll say.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: So I'm leaving you.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Hey, guess what? Bravo ain't the only people that can
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: do a cliffhanger. Alexis Jansen can too, baby.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. And we thank you for your services. Okay.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: So raindrops. We will watch.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, and Johnny. Oh, by the way, Johnny has a moment.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Which he didn't even want to go. And he didn't
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: even mean to. And he wasn't mic'd up.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: They didn't mic you up.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Did you mic up?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Okay. Oh, I was like, I don't even remember. He
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: says something and he doesn't even realize.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. It's the funniest thing.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: I can't tell you.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: John has a moment too?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Well, it's because he was just walking by and said something.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: And then it was the funniest thing.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Just wait. It's just funny.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: And I was just now thinking, was he mic'd up?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Did they catch that? I know that they did catch it.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they followed us.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Everywhere with a boom.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: I should have just put it there.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Of course they did. You're Alexis fucking Jansen. Let me
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: say it. You ain't got to say it. You're Alexis
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: fucking Jansen. Of course they said, we're not going to
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: have this bitch in the party without getting some audio.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: And they're like this. So the guys, the boom is
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: like this. And they... Their arms had.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: To hurt because they were following me everywhere.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And to the point where they have to like
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: do this sometimes. Like... Yes. It's tough. It's fucking tough. So... Alexis...
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you for bringing the drama. Unexpected. We can't wait
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: to see you next week. So, Raindrops, let us know
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: in the comments your thoughts, and we will see you
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: guys next week.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: I would like them to tell you this. Paul, I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: want to start with this next week.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: If I'm overstepping my bounds because it's not my podcast.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: No, please.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: If we could ask them, what do they really think
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: about the whole Heather and me thing? Not whose side
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: are you on because it's not really about the sides.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: It's just What is, I don't know, what would be
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: a better question of how to say that?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, in terms of, okay. Raindrops. Answer this question, Spotify comments,
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  Speaker 1: tweet us, leave a message. When it comes to Heather
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  Speaker 1: and Alexis, okay. Do you think that Alexis gave Heather
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  Speaker 1: a look? Okay. Let me know that based on what
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  Speaker 1: you saw. And do you think Heather wanted a moment.
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  Speaker 1: From the moment she was in the car talking about
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  Speaker 1: Alexis to what happened, do you guys think Heather wanted
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  Speaker 1: a moment, was looking for a moment with Alexis? Is
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  Speaker 1: that a good poll?
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  Speaker 2: Love it.
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  Speaker 1: Let us know. Spotify comments. We do read them, as
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  Speaker 1: you know. Alexis, enjoy your husband.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to go have some fun. Say hi, honey.
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  Speaker 3: We used all the chairs.
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  Speaker 2: Look, everything is set up. Look at this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I called room service.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, when you bring our breakfast, can you please
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  Speaker 2: leave the cart? Like I need the cart for my setup.
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  Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, we don't have carts here. Let
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  Speaker 2: me see what we can do. I'll see.
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  Speaker 3: The management calls me and they're like, well, I'll try
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  Speaker 3: to find you a table.
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  Speaker 2: We can move in there.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, don't worry. My husband figured it out. We're
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  Speaker 3: using luggage.
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  Speaker 1: We're using every chair in the room. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Love it. No, this was worth the whole rearrange-a-rook. So
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: have a great anniversary. I love you, girl. Love you,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: John Hart.
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  Speaker 2: Happy birthday. Can't wait to hear about your birthday next week.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And I'll see you next week, baby.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Bye, raindrops.
• 1:06:40
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