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Where is Mommy? Young mom Natalie Jones missing in hot pink Chevy after party. · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. As we go to air
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Speaker 1: right now, there is a four year old and an
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Speaker 1: eleven year old little boy both asking the same question,
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Speaker 1: where is mommy? I'm talking about a twenty seven year old,
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Speaker 1: beautiful young woman, Natalie Jones is missing and with all
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Speaker 1: of the scientific and technological developments including paying your phone off,
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Speaker 1: the car, north Star in it, so many ways to
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Speaker 1: find her. Somehow, this mom is like a needle and
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Speaker 1: a haystack, and according to friends and family, she would
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Speaker 1: never ever leave her two boys alone. We are on
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Speaker 1: a mission right now to find Natalie Jones. I mean
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Speaker 1: Ncy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM one eleven.
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Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to this. Twenty seven
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Speaker 1: year old Natalie Jones drove her hot pink Chevy Cavalier
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Speaker 1: from her home in Hurd County, Georgia to celebrate the
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Speaker 1: Fourth of July with friends in Jackson's Gap, Alabama, on
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Speaker 1: the night of July fourth, round ten thirty pm. Natalie
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Speaker 1: left the festivities to drive home. Lieutenant Dan Boswell of
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Speaker 1: the Hurd County Sheriff's Office tells Crime Online that Natalie
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Speaker 1: Jones sent a message to a friend at twelve fifty
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Speaker 1: two am that simply said I made it. Thanks. She
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Speaker 1: didn't say where she made it, two, just that she
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Speaker 1: made it. There were no further communications after that from her.
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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Boswell says her phone's last ping was with a
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Speaker 1: cell tower at five fifteen am in Hurd County, at
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Speaker 1: the opposite end of the county from where she lives.
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Speaker 1: Nobody has seen or heard from Natalie Jones. Since where
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Speaker 1: is Natalie? Two little boys asking that question as we
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Speaker 1: go to air with me an all star panel to
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Speaker 1: break it down and put it back together again. Kirk Nurmi,
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Speaker 1: former lawyer for Jodi Arius who made headlines author I've
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Speaker 1: trapped with miss Arius, Parts two and three of my
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Speaker 1: final words. You can find that on Amazon. Doctor Bethany Marshall,
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Speaker 1: Psycho Analyst to the Stars, Joining us from Beverly Hills.
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Speaker 1: She's a doctor Bethany Marshall dot Com Trace Sargeant expert
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Speaker 1: K nine handler, the PI firm the family contacted for help,
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Speaker 1: Joining us. Donna Williams, Cright Reporter w r B L News,
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Speaker 1: Columbus Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter Lee Egan, who's
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Speaker 1: been on the story from the beginning. But first to
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Speaker 1: special guest Natalie's sister, Jessica. Bishop Jessica, thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us, for those of you just joining us.
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Speaker 1: Natalie Jones missing tipline eight hundred five nine seven tips
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Speaker 1: repeat eight hundred five nine seven eight four seven seven.
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Speaker 1: There is a chance to bring Natalie home alive. Back
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Speaker 1: to her sister, Jessica, Bishop Jessica, when did you first
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Speaker 1: learn Natalie's missing? I'm just trying to get you together
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Speaker 1: right now. That just made a little bit bit more real. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: it was probably Julia six. I got a text from
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Speaker 1: someone that says her sister missing, and so I called
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Speaker 1: my sister, my other sister, Tabitha, and I said, what's
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Speaker 1: going on? And she said, we haven't heard from Natalie
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Speaker 1: since Julia fourth, so that Monday they had followed a
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Speaker 1: missing person's report. How often do either you or your
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Speaker 1: other sister text or here from Natalie. I mean I
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Speaker 1: text back and forth with my brother or his wife
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Speaker 1: practically every day, and my sister and her children out
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Speaker 1: in California probably every other day. We're pretty close contact.
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Speaker 1: And of course my mom is here with me, so
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Speaker 1: all of us are in very close contact. How often
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Speaker 1: would either you or your sister contact Natalie by text
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Speaker 1: or by phone or in person. My sister tab she
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Speaker 1: would see Natalie almost every day for the last month
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Speaker 1: before she went missing. She would text call on a
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Speaker 1: daily basis. They lived probably a couple of miles from
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Speaker 1: each other. Maybe you guys are so lucky to be
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Speaker 1: close to family. How far away do you live from Natalie? Um,
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Speaker 1: I live probably twenty miles away from where she stayed
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Speaker 1: at at her mother's house, and so she stayed with
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Speaker 1: her mom. Okay, so there's another close family connection. Let
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Speaker 1: me ask you this. The drive she went from her
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Speaker 1: home to a party on July four, How far was
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Speaker 1: that drive? How many miles or how many minutes? It
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Speaker 1: was about an hour and a half drive. Man, I
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Speaker 1: made that kind of drive back home to my family
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Speaker 1: home all the time. You don't think twice about it. Up.
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Speaker 1: Let me bring in the reporters on the case with me.
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Speaker 1: Is Natalie's sister. But first take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: friends at w RBL News three. He does want her home, period.
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Speaker 1: We just want her home. That is our main goal.
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Speaker 1: Twenty seven year old Natalie Pearl Jones was last seen
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Speaker 1: in Otha Waka near River Trace Drive. Jones is about
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Speaker 1: five three wing about one hundred and thirty pounds. Since
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Speaker 1: her disappearance, the family has been searching for Jones. What
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Speaker 1: we've done as a family is just hours on the
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Speaker 1: road driving a route that she made would have taken
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Speaker 1: going down Dirt Rose in Franklin, around the Ephesis area.
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Speaker 1: You've just done a lot of July Bishop tot News three.
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Speaker 1: The Herd County Sheriff's Department is leading the investigation, not
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Speaker 1: the GBI. Bishop describes her sister as someone who is outgoing.
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Speaker 1: She says the most important thing to her is her children,
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Speaker 1: and next month she has a five year old that
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Speaker 1: will start at school for the first time. Oh gosh,
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Speaker 1: who would miss your child starting school? No mom that
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Speaker 1: I know? Straight out to climb online dot com investigative
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Speaker 1: reporter at Lee Egan, Lee, what do you know? Well,
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Speaker 1: exactly what Jessica said. She went to a friend's party
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Speaker 1: on July fourth, At around twelve fifty two am. On
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Speaker 1: July fifth, was the last known message from Jonestone. She
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Speaker 1: supposedly sent a message back to her friends in Jackson's Gap, Alabama,
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Speaker 1: and said thanks I made it. Now she did never
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Speaker 1: say where she made it too, just that she made
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Speaker 1: it and that was the last they heard from her. Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it would be implied that I
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Speaker 1: made it home, since that's where she was going. I
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Speaker 1: made it. I often send that text, Hey I'm here,
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Speaker 1: and of course my husband and children know what I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about. That makes sense to me. But Lee, who
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Speaker 1: is this friend? Who's the friend the party she went to? Well,
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Speaker 1: there were several several people who are several friends, and
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Speaker 1: well they are they men or women? Both both men
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Speaker 1: and women. Where does she know I'm from? She knew
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Speaker 1: them from just just friends, you know, childhood. It might
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Speaker 1: have been childhood friends. Let's ask Jessica. Let's ask Jessica
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Speaker 1: because I find that important. Was she traveling to see
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Speaker 1: a boyfriend? That's significant to me because the first place
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Speaker 1: you look is boyfriend's ex boyfriend's husband's lovers. To Jessica
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Speaker 1: Bishop who was having the party? Jessica, it was a
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Speaker 1: former ex boyfriend or former boyfriend of Natalie's. They weren't
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Speaker 1: in a relationship at the time. They had became friends,
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Speaker 1: but he had previously been in a relationship with her. Yes, Okay,
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Speaker 1: and so all of that oiled down. He is an
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Speaker 1: ex boyfriend, is that right? Yes? Now, Jessica Bishop, I
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Speaker 1: think I heard you say and his parents. So does
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Speaker 1: the X live with the parents? They that's more, that's
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Speaker 1: not their home. That was more of their weekend kind
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Speaker 1: of getaway type home, like a lake or on a mountain,
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Speaker 1: something like that. It's on Lake Martin, it's right off
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Speaker 1: of Lake Mark. Well, I'm writing all this down, Jessica.
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Speaker 1: Sorry for interrupting. So we've got the ex boyfriend. Is
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Speaker 1: he the father of either of these two children? No? Okay,
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Speaker 1: ex boyfriend? How long have they been broken up? Oh,
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Speaker 1: for a while, I don't. I don't know exactly a week,
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Speaker 1: a month, two years, ten years. I've got one undated
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Speaker 1: in high school okay, haven't seen him since. So that's
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Speaker 1: one ex boyfriend. There are others. So how long is
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Speaker 1: this a high school boyfriend and college boyfriend or work boyfriend?
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Speaker 1: How long have they been broken up? It's significant? Well,
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Speaker 1: to be honest, technically, I would say I would this
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Speaker 1: is to think I guess at least a year. Okay,
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Speaker 1: stops right there, Doctor Bethany Marshall, Psychoana, Sorry, Jessica, I've
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Speaker 1: got for one hour to get this story out there
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Speaker 1: and to glean all the facts I can, So this
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Speaker 1: is going to be rapid fire. I want to find
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Speaker 1: your sister, Bethany Marshall, excuse me, doctor, Bethany Marshall. It's
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Speaker 1: very important as to how long they've been broken up.
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Speaker 1: You understand, right, Nancy. It's so important not only how
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Speaker 1: long would they've been broken up, but what was the
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Speaker 1: nature of the relationship. Who broke up with whom? Is
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Speaker 1: he upset that she broke up with him? Has he
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Speaker 1: been stalking her again? Just to jump straight to the point, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: when somebody goes missing or is a victim of homicide,
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Speaker 1: we look at their most intimate relationships because in the
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Speaker 1: context of intimate relationships, that's where there's resentment, rage, rejection, betrayals.
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Speaker 1: So in the context of close relationships, homicidal feelings can emerge.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to put it so well. Actually, beth Marshall,
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Speaker 1: we ain't at a tea party. I think we're not
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Speaker 1: at the church circle meeting right now, So let's just
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Speaker 1: get down with it and figure out what's going on.
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Speaker 1: But I have to interject. If this guy was stalking her,
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Speaker 1: which I have no evidence of that at all. I
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Speaker 1: doubt she would have driven an hour and a half
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Speaker 1: to go to a party with him and his parents,
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Speaker 1: all right if he was Unless she was nature of
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Speaker 1: the relationship, who else was there? What was happening on
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Speaker 1: her social media? And what were the nature of all
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Speaker 1: the other relationships in her life? Was anybody preoccupied with
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Speaker 1: her crime stories with Nancy Grace? Guys were talking about
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Speaker 1: a missing twenty seven year old mom of two, a
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Speaker 1: four year old and an eleven year old little boy.
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Speaker 1: They're starting school without mommy. Where is Natalie? So to
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Speaker 1: you in a nutshell, Jessica Bishop, were there any lingering
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Speaker 1: feelings between her and the X? I don't think on
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Speaker 1: her part that she had any romantic feelings towards him.
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Speaker 1: He had expressed afterwards that he just wanted to find
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Speaker 1: her and he was worried. Other than that, I got
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Speaker 1: no indication that they had any type of romantic involvement,
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Speaker 1: that they were just friends joining me Trace Sergeant Canine
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Speaker 1: Handler with the PI from the family contact to help Trace.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us. What can
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Speaker 1: you tell us? Trace? Well, the family reached out to
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Speaker 1: me to help locate Natalie, and we of course, jumped
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Speaker 1: right in and boots on grounds. We checked around Natalie's
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Speaker 1: home where she was living at, which was her mother.
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Speaker 1: We checked around there, found nothing. We also checked several
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Speaker 1: other places with the dogs. I met with Lieutenant Boswell
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Speaker 1: with the Herd County Shares Office. He provided me a
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Speaker 1: lot of great information. At this point in time, we've
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Speaker 1: exhausted all areas of to search, but we're still very
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Speaker 1: active and we hope that this uh your cast and
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Speaker 1: highlighting this case will give us new tips and leads
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Speaker 1: and new areas to search. I'm straight to Donna Williams
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Speaker 1: w rb L News, Columbus, Georgia. Donna, help us out.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell us? Tell me everything you know, Donna.
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Speaker 1: You know, after speaking with her sister, I can see
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Speaker 1: that she was very close knit with her sisters and
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Speaker 1: for her to just disappear. And my thing is, she
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Speaker 1: has a pink car. So someone had to see something
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Speaker 1: with this pink card. You know, it's not every day
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Speaker 1: that you see like a bright pink car just riding
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Speaker 1: down the street. And I've been up to her county,
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Speaker 1: so around that area, it seems to be close knit.
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Speaker 1: So someone knows something. You know, you just brought up
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Speaker 1: something really important. Donna Williams w r B all needs Ambus.
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Speaker 1: My very first note at the top of the pit
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Speaker 1: page is hot pink Chevy. So this car is not
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Speaker 1: just pink, it is hot pink. Now the only time
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Speaker 1: I really see a pink car. Have you ever seen
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Speaker 1: those pink cars? Jackie that and they're mary K. I
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Speaker 1: think it's the name of the cosmetics dealers. Yes, and
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Speaker 1: if they sell X numbers of dollars worth of mary K,
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Speaker 1: they are gifted a pink It's a Cadillac and you
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Speaker 1: can't miss it. You don't really see a lot of
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Speaker 1: pink cars. And you're telling me this was hot pink. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: hot pink, a hot pink Chevy. Now, see that's something
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Speaker 1: that you would remember. And I want to get down
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Speaker 1: to the ping, the ping. John Williams w r B
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Speaker 1: L News Columbus, What can you tell me about the
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Speaker 1: pings that have surfaced on the phone. Well, what we
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Speaker 1: saw was the last ping that they saw was of
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Speaker 1: course the text message and off the towers. But you know,
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Speaker 1: with social media, you can pretty much find a personal
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Speaker 1: location within fifteen minutes. You can go through tag Facebook
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Speaker 1: pictures on Facebook to see a person's last moment. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so when you guys, if you don't know it, if
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Speaker 1: you have GEO tagging on your phone, or you haven't
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Speaker 1: turned it off, when you post, it will show exactly
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Speaker 1: where you are now. You may want that, but in
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Speaker 1: this case it would be very helpful. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to Shane her x I, a TV eleven alive. No
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Speaker 1: one has seen Natalie Jones since July fifth. Jessica Bishop says,
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Speaker 1: her sister, a mother of two, just disappeared without a trace.
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Speaker 1: It's been expruciating. We have no idea. It's literally like
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Speaker 1: she was just pick up out of nowhere in vantage
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Speaker 1: the Herd County Sheriff's office, as Jones was last seen
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Speaker 1: in Jackson's Gap, Alabama, in her hot pink Chevy Cavalier.
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Speaker 1: Her family says they were told her cell phone pinned
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Speaker 1: off a tower in Franklin, Georgia that day. Bishop says,
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Speaker 1: shortly after Jones was reported missing, investigators searched from the
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Speaker 1: air and on the ground but found nothing. We don't
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Speaker 1: know what to do anymore because we, like I said,
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Speaker 1: we'd go and search, but we don't even know what
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Speaker 1: we're where we're searching for. I mean you know where
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Speaker 1: we're searching that anymore, guys, I'm trying to figure out
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Speaker 1: if her car had any type of tracking device tray sergeant, okay,
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Speaker 1: trace her vehicle. I know that it's a hot pink Chevy,
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Speaker 1: but did it have any geo device in it, you know,
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Speaker 1: that could track her? For my understanding, she did not.
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Speaker 1: It was an older vehicle, so she didn't have any
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Speaker 1: electronics actually installed in the vehicle for the manufacturers, like
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Speaker 1: a navigation to correct. No, to my knowledge, there was
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Speaker 1: no navigational tools or tracking tools on her vehicle. You know,
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Speaker 1: earlier I said north Star, I meant on Star, and
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Speaker 1: I think that she's right to u Lee Egan that
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Speaker 1: newer cars have it have on Star in there or
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Speaker 1: some other type of navigational tool. The significance is of
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Speaker 1: that is that it can then be pulled up. The
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Speaker 1: data can be pulled up and you can see where
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Speaker 1: the car has been through the manufacturer. If it's an
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Speaker 1: older car, unless you've put it in the car, the
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Speaker 1: car doesn't have it. To Jessica Bishop's sister of Natalie Jones,
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Speaker 1: did Natalie have anything like that in her car? No,
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Speaker 1: there was nothing like that in her car. To use
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Speaker 1: ways or Google Map. I don't. I think she used
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Speaker 1: just the She had an iPhone, so there's just a map,
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Speaker 1: you know, on your iPhone. I got a question. I
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Speaker 1: got a question. We have something called Life three sixty.
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Speaker 1: My husband found it and I love it and I
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Speaker 1: can see I made the decision, for better or worse,
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Speaker 1: to give the children's cell phones, and you can see
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Speaker 1: where they are even if we for instance, they went
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Speaker 1: and sang with their school last year at Disney, A
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Speaker 1: lot of schools had their they played their instruments, their
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Speaker 1: band played, and we could see them like where they
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Speaker 1: were walking around within Disney because they had their phones
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Speaker 1: with them on the Life three sixty. Did she have
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Speaker 1: anything like that on her phone? No, she didn't. She
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Speaker 1: didn't even have her location turned on for her Snapchat
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Speaker 1: or anything like that. Um, kurt Nermie with me now,
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Speaker 1: Defense attorney and author kurk Nermy, do you have to
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Speaker 1: have Fine my iPhone turned on? Oh? I think you do.
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Speaker 1: She had an iPhone. I understand. I think you have
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Speaker 1: to have Jackie up real quick. You do. You do
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Speaker 1: have to find you have to have find my iPhone
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Speaker 1: turned on. But that is an excellent way to find
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Speaker 1: find your phone. When you find your phone, you find
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Speaker 1: the person. Would you agree with that? What do we
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Speaker 1: do right now? Kirt Nermy well, I would start with
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Speaker 1: even though she didn't have some of those apps work,
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Speaker 1: and we have this ping at twelve fifty two that
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Speaker 1: is in her county but not in the area of
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Speaker 1: her home. So what we need to start doing is
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Speaker 1: begin there. That is the last known place where there's
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Speaker 1: anything to do with Natalie to be found. We have
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Speaker 1: this hot pink car. I find it hard to believe,
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Speaker 1: and I don't know how big a circumference it would
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Speaker 1: be for this cell phone tower where the pings would be.
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Speaker 1: To start looking at every single bit of security footage
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Speaker 1: that is around the area. Start canvassing the area to
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Speaker 1: see if anybody saw a hot pink car that evening
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Speaker 1: or early morning. Start right there and start working backwards.
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Speaker 1: Did she know anybody in this area? Did she know
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Speaker 1: was there a new suitor we've talked about the X.
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Speaker 1: Was there somebody who was interested who maybe it was
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Speaker 1: jealous she spent time with the X that it was
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Speaker 1: in the area of where this ping went. We need
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Speaker 1: to start at the last known point of content crime
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Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace Guys, we are talking about a
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Speaker 1: missing young mom, twenty seven year old Natalie Jones. You
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Speaker 1: can find out more at crime online dot com or
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Speaker 1: find Natalie Jones dot com. There's a ten thousand dollar reward.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to this. The family is desperate define Jones,
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Speaker 1: someone they say, wouldn't just go silent. She's always on
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Speaker 1: social media posting pictures. Either she will take her children
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Speaker 1: or she always lets her children know where she's going.
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Speaker 1: She lets one of us know where she's going. Being
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Speaker 1: a mother, Bishop says, Jones especially wouldn't disappear knowing her
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Speaker 1: kids need her. Her youngest son keeps asking where his
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Speaker 1: mom is. He called Natalie's mom and you know, said,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk. I want to talk to mama.
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Speaker 1: Where's mamma? Asked, where's my mama at? That remains the
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Speaker 1: question where is Natalie Jones? Bishop says. Herd County investigators
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Speaker 1: tell the family there still aren't any great leads right now,
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Speaker 1: but the search continues. It's a waiting game. It is
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Speaker 1: a waiting game. Guys. You're hearing our friends at w
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Speaker 1: XIATV eleven. We know that Nellie Jones's phone pained in
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Speaker 1: the County of her home. This is what happened, straight
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Speaker 1: out to Lee Egan, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Lee.
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Speaker 1: Natalie had driven about an hour and a half to
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Speaker 1: go to a July fourth party. It was a party
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Speaker 1: thrown by an ex boyfriend and his parents. She leaves
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Speaker 1: the party about ten thirty. By all accounts, the ex
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Speaker 1: boyfriend stays at the party, and I'd like you to
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Speaker 1: confirm that formula, Lee. That evening, she sends a text
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Speaker 1: saying I made it. Thanks, I guess thanks for inviting me.
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Speaker 1: I need to find out who she sent the text too. Okay,
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Speaker 1: First of all, can we confirm, Lee Egan, the boyfriend
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Speaker 1: remained at the party yes weekend? Everybody there remained there,
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Speaker 1: including the X Yes. Okay, two Who did she text
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Speaker 1: I made it? Thanks? Hey? That's where the issue is
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Speaker 1: because according to the sheriff, I think I believe that
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Speaker 1: just confirmed this. She used texting apps on her phone,
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Speaker 1: and we don't know. That might have been one regular
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Speaker 1: text and that was back to the party to her ex,
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Speaker 1: but she used a texting app also, so they can't
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Speaker 1: get in there and find out yet exactly who she
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Speaker 1: had been texting back and forth with you know, surrounding
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Speaker 1: the days before, during, and after the party to Trey
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Speaker 1: sergeant with the PI firm, the family contact of her help.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell me about this texting app? Can't
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Speaker 1: police get a warrant to get into it? Yes, Lieutenant
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Speaker 1: boswe Eye discuss that, and they cannot without further justification
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Speaker 1: in doing that. It's not just a simple matter of yes,
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Speaker 1: you can see perhaps an outgoing or ingoing activity, but
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Speaker 1: reading the text is a different legal standard, and that
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Speaker 1: standard is not met in this case at this time
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Speaker 1: because the mom is just missing m so correct. You
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Speaker 1: know what. I hate it when, for instance, children are
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Speaker 1: classified as runaways or women are classified as so she
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Speaker 1: wanted alone time, that's all byes. Jessica Bishop's sister of Natalie.
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Speaker 1: There was no indication she wanted to go off on
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Speaker 1: her own and leave her two little boys behind. Can
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Speaker 1: you tell me, Jessica, as she in a relationship on
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Speaker 1: July the fourth? No? Not, to my knowledge, she was
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Speaker 1: not in a relationship with anyone. There's a ten thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars reward for information leading to Natalie's whereabouts tipline seven
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Speaker 1: h six six seven five three three two nine repeat
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Speaker 1: seven oh six six seven five three three two nine.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to this. Another thing that is puzzling
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Speaker 1: and concerning to family members and investigators is at her car,
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Speaker 1: a bright pink two thousand two Chevy Cavalier hasn't been spotted.
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Speaker 1: The car has Georgia license plate r V six one
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Speaker 1: seven seven, and that vehicle is not anywhere to be found.
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Speaker 1: Jones is five three and one hundred thirty pounds. She
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Speaker 1: has blue eyes, brown hair with blonde highlights. She has
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Speaker 1: tattoos on each of her wrists. One says Isaac, the
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Speaker 1: other says Trent, a star diagram from shoulder to shoulder
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Speaker 1: and the name Trent with a baby foot on her
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Speaker 1: right foot. We are pursuing this because we'd love her
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Speaker 1: so much, and we're going to continue to do this
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Speaker 1: until we are. The family is asking anyone with information
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Speaker 1: or anyone who has seen her bright pink car to
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Speaker 1: police contact law enforcement immediately. Guys, let me tell you
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Speaker 1: some more about the car. The license plate is Georgia
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Speaker 1: R Robert V Victory EF six one seven seven repeat
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Speaker 1: RV six one seven seven. All of you truckers listening
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Speaker 1: right now, please be on the lookout for a hot
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Speaker 1: pink two thousand and two Chevy Cavalier with blue stripes
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Speaker 1: on the side. The car was originally read anyone that
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Speaker 1: sees the car needs to call nine one one immediately.
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Speaker 1: We are also learning that she was not in a
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Speaker 1: relationship at the time. That is significant why doctor Bethany Marshall.
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Speaker 1: When you're dating an out in the world, you meet
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Speaker 1: new people, and in this case, meeting new people may
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Speaker 1: equal meeting and encountering more dangerous situations. You know, I'm
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Speaker 1: also analyzing the fact that the phone was pined in
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Speaker 1: her home county, but still several miles away from her
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Speaker 1: actual home. We all remember the recent case of Keltsey Barrett,
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Speaker 1: the young Colorado mom of a little baby girl whose
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Speaker 1: fiancee murdered her. Then he talked to his new lover,
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Speaker 1: the rodeo Queen taught her into taking Kelsey's phone and
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Speaker 1: abandoning it where he wanted the police to believe she
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Speaker 1: would have traveled. She didn't travel anywhere. He killed her
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Speaker 1: not too far away from her home and burned her body.
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Speaker 1: But the cell phone was taken and thrown off the
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Speaker 1: side of the interstate as if she were en route
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Speaker 1: to see family in another state. So back to you,
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Speaker 1: Tray Sergeant joining us in the PI from the family
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Speaker 1: contactor for help. The fact that her phone pinged there
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Speaker 1: is not absolute evidence that she was there. Most likely
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Speaker 1: it is, but it's not absolute. That's correct, Nancy. In
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Speaker 1: any indus together, we always start at the high probable
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Speaker 1: areas first and worked out we have to assume that
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Speaker 1: where her phone ping is where she was or presumed
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Speaker 1: to be, so we start at that location. But there's
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Speaker 1: no guarantee where her phone ping is in fact where
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Speaker 1: she was even in the area. But we have to
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Speaker 1: start somewhere and be logical about it and be smart
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Speaker 1: and efficient. I do want to say it's been really
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Speaker 1: strange since assisting the family in the search for Natalie.
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Speaker 1: We haven't received one tip or lead since her disappearance,
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Speaker 1: which is extremely unusual and out of character, especially when
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Speaker 1: you're talking about a hot pink car. So we're really
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Speaker 1: at a standstale right now and areas to search. So
27:49
Speaker 1: we're hoping that this show will give us some new
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Speaker 1: tips and leads scenarios to search will trace. Let me
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Speaker 1: ask you this the train where she was last pinned,
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Speaker 1: what kind of terrain is it? It's primarily ruled there are,
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Speaker 1: you know, homes of followings and things like that. But
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Speaker 1: it's not a heavily subrabian city area, so I think
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Speaker 1: you're saying it's rural and not heavily populated. Crime stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace, a young twenty seven year old mom
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Speaker 1: of two little boys, is missing. She left the July
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Speaker 1: fourth party around ten thirty to eleven thirty to drive
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Speaker 1: hour and fifteen minutes home. She texted we think, saying
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Speaker 1: I made it, thanks, but she didn't make it. Where
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Speaker 1: is Natalie? Her phone pained off a cell tower and
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Speaker 1: the county where she lives. That suggests that she made
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Speaker 1: it that fart, but she never made it home. Lives
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Speaker 1: with her mother and her two little boys. Very quickly
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Speaker 1: to Jessica Bishop, this is Natalie's sister joining us. They
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Speaker 1: had separate fathers and both of them have their but
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Speaker 1: that they have the children and they were involved this.
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Speaker 1: They got them every weekend, if not every other weekend.
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Speaker 1: So they have been excluded. Is that what you're telling me?
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Speaker 1: I believe one has been excluded. I haven't been informed
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Speaker 1: about the other. What do we know about that? Tray,
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Speaker 1: Sergeant Well, in that situation, that is correct. What Jessica said,
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Speaker 1: there is some discussions about the younger son because there
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Speaker 1: was a custody battle going on between the father and
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Speaker 1: Natalie along, so they're doing further investigation from that until
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Speaker 1: it's completely cleared of he was at the time in
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Speaker 1: the relationship between Fatally and him. Pinpointing a cell phone
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Speaker 1: in a rural county such as her county can be
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Speaker 1: very difficult. There are only three cell towers covering that
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Speaker 1: entire county, so long story short, you may get a ping,
30:17
Speaker 1: but that doesn't indicate exactly where you are. While cell
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Speaker 1: phone pings can be traced as close as like three
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Speaker 1: or four blocks from where the phone is, that's not
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Speaker 1: true in this particular case. So if she was at
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Speaker 1: that cell tower between there and home, it seems to
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Speaker 1: me to Donna Williams w RBL News, Columbus, that is
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Speaker 1: a stretch of road that cops should be focusing on
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Speaker 1: between that cell tower ping and her home. I definitely agree,
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Speaker 1: And I also think it's important to know if she
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Speaker 1: had any friends in that area and to see if
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Speaker 1: they had seen her or heard from her that night
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Speaker 1: when that message went off. I think that's another important
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Speaker 1: factor to know if there was anyone in that area
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Speaker 1: that may have talked to her, or was she talking
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Speaker 1: to anyone on her way there. I think those are
31:10
Speaker 1: important factors to know. And also there was any surveillance
31:15
Speaker 1: videos in any of those areas? Have those been checked?
31:18
Speaker 1: Have those been watched? Have those been searched? So I
31:20
Speaker 1: think that's that's what another factor as well. Yeah, because
31:24
Speaker 1: we saw in a recent case Kirt Narmy, renowned lawyer
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Speaker 1: who defended Jodi Arias at trial in the missing Connecticut
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Speaker 1: mom of five, Jennifer Dulos, her husband's car and it's
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Speaker 1: whereabouts were pieced together almost entirely around the hours of
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Speaker 1: her disappearance early early in the morning after school drop off,
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Speaker 1: based on home and business surveillance video, even surveillance video
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Speaker 1: cams that are in school buses and public buses. When
31:59
Speaker 1: the some of the doors open on the bus, you
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Speaker 1: could see photos Dulo's car drive by. It's amazing the
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Speaker 1: way surveillance video CCTV can catch a vehicle. So that's
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Speaker 1: an avenue to be exhausted. Agree or disagree, Oh, I
32:17
Speaker 1: completely agree. Whatever that whatever that scope is, that particular tower,
32:23
Speaker 1: every effort should be made to see what security camera,
32:27
Speaker 1: what somebody saw because also think about it. Remember we're
32:30
Speaker 1: talking about this hot pink car. That is not only unique,
32:34
Speaker 1: but it could be a memorable event, especially in an
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Speaker 1: area like that. What was this hot pink car doing.
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Speaker 1: This is out of the ordinary to have this hot
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Speaker 1: pink car in our neighborhood. People might remember that. So
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Speaker 1: every single camera, every single door should be knocked on
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Speaker 1: for any kind of trace or recognition of this car
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Speaker 1: related to the area in this tower. You're right, Kirk,
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Speaker 1: I here's somebody jumping in. Who is it? Bethany is
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Speaker 1: just a quick observation. I was wondering if they had
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Speaker 1: asked the people at the party. Was she on her
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Speaker 1: phone a lot on all these social media apps, as
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Speaker 1: if she was preoccupied and planning on meeting up with somebody,
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Speaker 1: or was she more engaged with the people at the party.
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Speaker 1: I think that's important because it really determines did somebody
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Speaker 1: start to groom her while she was at the party
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Speaker 1: and then predated upon her after she left, or was
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Speaker 1: she the victim of some random stranger on the way home.
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Speaker 1: That's a really good point. Her demeanor at the party
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Speaker 1: to Jessica Bishop, this is Natalie's sister, was there any
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Speaker 1: suggestion she had odd behavior at the party es her
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Speaker 1: X and I had just found out. I want to
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Speaker 1: correct myself. It's been like seven years, it's been a
33:42
Speaker 1: long time since they've been together. But yes, he did
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Speaker 1: say that she was on her phone a lot during
33:47
Speaker 1: that evening, during that time that she was there, so
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Speaker 1: she did seem preoccupied by whatever was going on with
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Speaker 1: her phone and whatever she was talking about. Tails there
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Speaker 1: better be a warrant an pronto to get all of
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Speaker 1: the text that she was using on that she was
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Speaker 1: sending on an app. I mean, anybody would know this,
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Speaker 1: especially if you have children. You can text outright on
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Speaker 1: your phone where we can read all the texts, or
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Speaker 1: you can use an app like What's App or house
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Speaker 1: Party or just talk. There's a million ways or kick.
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Speaker 1: There's a million ways to talk and text on your
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Speaker 1: phone without leaving a text trill. And it's not nefarious.
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Speaker 1: People use those sorts of apps for all all different reasons.
34:37
Speaker 1: Even my children get on a house party and What's
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Speaker 1: App and they're all talking to each other about homework
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Speaker 1: assignments for Pete's sake, But those require more evidence to
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Speaker 1: get the search warrant. You're not just getting the warrant
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Speaker 1: from the phone company. You're getting a warrant from an
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Speaker 1: app as well. I don't know what the hold up is. Guys,
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Speaker 1: take a listen to lieuten of Dan Boswell, Herd County
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Speaker 1: Shares Department. The Verizon tower in Hurd County showed her
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Speaker 1: phone pained on one of their towers. Correct. Well, paying
35:10
Speaker 1: is a term that we use when we have used
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Speaker 1: for locating. So paining is when we asked a cell
35:18
Speaker 1: phone company to to send a signal to that specific
35:20
Speaker 1: device and then they read the distance that device measures
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Speaker 1: from its location to a tower. So that's what a
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Speaker 1: pain is. But what we did do is we did
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Speaker 1: get means it shows the towers that her phone was
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Speaker 1: located in certain sectors of certain towers and those were
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Speaker 1: in Hurd County. That's correct. There was a four point
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Speaker 1: two mile range from the tower to her phone and
35:47
Speaker 1: it was on the opposite end of the county from
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Speaker 1: where her home is correct, it is true to Leigan
35:53
Speaker 1: Clime online dot com investigative reporter, what was she wearing
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Speaker 1: when she was at the party? Nancy? So she was
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Speaker 1: wearing a pink blouse, white shorts, black sandals with bows
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Speaker 1: and I want to add that she does have a
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Speaker 1: few tactoos. She has a starred diagram on her shoulder
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Speaker 1: that goes from across her shoulder to her back on
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Speaker 1: each wrist. What else? Yeah, and a baby footprint on
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Speaker 1: her right foot. And can I can I jump in
36:27
Speaker 1: really quick with something that doctor Marshall was saying. She
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Speaker 1: was talking about she may have been dating other people. Well,
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Speaker 1: she was dating someone much more recently than the man
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Speaker 1: at the lake, and they had just broken off their relationship.
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Speaker 1: I believe it was in a couple of months. And
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Speaker 1: he lives in Hogansville, which is pretty cool. I'm not
36:48
Speaker 1: saying he hasn't been named a suspect. I'm just throwing
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Speaker 1: this out there. He lives nearby, like within seven miles
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Speaker 1: of where she does, close to where the phone peemed.
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Speaker 1: He's in cars right now for allegedly trying to put
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Speaker 1: a hit out on a deputy. So we haven't been
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Speaker 1: able to actually speak to him. Well just wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: trying to put a hit out on a deputy? Okay, yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: Question when was he put in jail for that? That
37:16
Speaker 1: was reason. That was probably a couple of weeks ago,
37:19
Speaker 1: so he was out and about on July fourth. Yes,
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Speaker 1: he was arrested last week in the Truth County Jail. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's in the Truth County Jail. Is this Donal Williams speaking. Yes, Yes, again,
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Speaker 1: he's not a suspect or a POY person of interest.
37:35
Speaker 1: But to doctor Bethany Marshall, why is it so critical
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Speaker 1: that all boyfriends are exes or current lovers or ex
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Speaker 1: lovers have to be identified and questioned? Nancy, It's important
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Speaker 1: because one of the biggest breakdowns in the dating relationship
37:49
Speaker 1: that will turn homicidal is if a boyfriend feels the
37:53
Speaker 1: relationship is more valuable than it really is, if the
37:57
Speaker 1: girlfriend is not as available as she should be, and
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Speaker 1: then he wants to punish her for rejecting him. That's
38:03
Speaker 1: a very toxic dynamic. And if it happens with a man,
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Speaker 1: a supposed quote unquote air quote boyfriend who's actually homicidal
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Speaker 1: and she's not completely available to him and there's a
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Speaker 1: breakdown in the relationship, it really says that something could
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Speaker 1: have happened that caused his homicidal instincts to kind of
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Speaker 1: override any effection her. Going to the party thrown by
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Speaker 1: an ex boyfriend and his parents even though they're no
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Speaker 1: longer involved for the past seven years could make those
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Speaker 1: feelings of rejection boil over. We wait as justice unfolds
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