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MidLife Card Talk #2- With Ash of Legacy Cardz · Sports Card Clubhouse

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What is going on, everybody? I am.
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I'm excited for today. I have my buddy Ash back.
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Ashley there. I can't see you at the moment.
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You there? I am here, yes.
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Alright. Cool.
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No, you're good. You're good.
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Yeah, I don't have to see you. I just I, I, you know, cuz this
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is a podcast, but I just want to make sure you're there.
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So I got to tell you something, brother.
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The first one of these we did on our podcast network, sports card
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Clubhouse. We've posted about 60 podcast
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episodes now, and by far the most listened to podcast is the
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one with Meno. What do you think about that?
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Amen. I give all the glory to God for,
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for the community supporting us and, and you, you know, just
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just wanting to hear what, what we have to say.
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Greg, I, I think it's great. And you, you know, candidly,
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that's why we're here now, right to, to, to talk, talk more
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baseball cards and to answer some questions and, you know,
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give everybody a feel of, of what we see in the hobby and,
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and and so forth. I mean, so I'm I'm hey, it, it,
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it's great, man. Makes me feel good that people
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like to hear what we say. And we got to have the boys on
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here one day, Greg, somebody I, so I made a post with the
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original podcast and one question was for Dalen and JB
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and I, I, I could answer it, man, but I, I think it comes
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better from them because let them organically say what
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they're going to say. And yet yet, you know, and and
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so forth. So.
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For sure. And they're they're great dudes.
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And, you know, anybody who's been to one of your booths at a
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show, I know those two guys. Yeah, I mean, I'm with you,
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dude. It's like we're just couple of
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guys hanging out who like cards. You get to talk about this
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stuff. And if, if what we do could be
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entertaining for people, then we'll keep doing it.
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You know, I said from the beginning, if we could try to do
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about one of these a month at minimum, maybe some months even
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more, depending on schedules and stuff.
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But I'm looking forward to continuing and doing this.
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Now let I have I have a lot of questions.
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And one of the things you just said I think is important.
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You said if people have questions that they can post
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them. If you're listening to this on
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Spotify or Apple or wherever it is that you listen to your
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podcast, there should be a way for you to post questions.
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So feel free. If there are things that you
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want us to talk about, things that you want me to ask Ash
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about, feel free to do that because that's one of the things
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I think we want is we want to be talking about things that people
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want to hear about. And I got to tell you before we
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got on about 15 minutes ago, I was texting with a few of my
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hobby buddies and I was telling that we were going to talk.
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I was like, what do you want me to ask him about?
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And, and I got it, my boy Mookie, who I don't know if you
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know him by his name, Mookie, but my buddy Mookie and then
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Mike Petty, who that's his alter Eagle eager name.
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He said. They both said, we've listened
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to Ash doing eBay lives and he sounds like he's having so much
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fun doing them. Like I have two questions from
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that What, what, what inspired you to suddenly jump into the
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eBay world and do the eBay lives?
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And what is it about eBay lives that you're having fun doing?
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So eBay live, I have a buddy that works at eBay that you
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know, that I've known for several years and he kind of
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came up the, the thought to, hey, you know, why don't you do
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eBay live and get, you know, bring some vintage on there.
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And I'll be honest with you, Greg, I have a lot of the stuff
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that we sell on eBay live. I have a good amount of it.
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I probably have a couple of 1000 slabs that are that just
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unfortunately we can't bring to the shows, right?
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And so, so, yeah, you know, we, we pull anywhere from 50 to 75
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cards and we, we run them on eBay live.
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And yeah, you know, I said I'd give it a shot.
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And so I gave it a shot, see how it went.
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And yeah, you know, it went well.
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And we did good on some cards. And, you know, some cards, not
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so much. But I mean, it's a learning
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experience, right? So, so we learned and we learned
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what the people want. I, as many of you guys know, I
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don't really sell on eBay that much, right.
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It's it's, you know, thankfully fake Facebook has been great,
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the shows have been great. And just just the way we've
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organically built Legacy Guards has been phenomenal.
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Well, you know, we did all of that without eBay.
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So now when we bring eBay into the fold, it just, you know, we
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listed all of our inventory was, it was a perfect storm actually.
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So we listed like all of our inventory, November, December,
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eBay had a special in December where it was like half off of
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final value fees and we crushed it in the month of December,
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man, we absolutely crushed it. And there's not many people that
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have kind of the selection that we're able to bring.
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And, and so, so, you know, we we sold a lot of cards and it was
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good. And, and so we said, OK, we were
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looking for other ways to kind of branch out, right?
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Whether it's it's having somebody help me sell some of
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the cards that we have or get, you know, something like that.
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It's something that we spoke about for 2026.
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Well, you know, eBay kind of became that somebody to help me
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sell more cards, except it's just, it fits right into our
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model because we, we're basically an online business.
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We ship cards every day. It helped me hire a friend that
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was looking for a job that, that, that he's very good at
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shipping. He's very meticulous.
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He's very detail oriented. So you know, you as you know,
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when you ship something, you got to ship it right?
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You got to ship it with care, got to ship it with love.
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Obviously you got to make sure the people are getting the right
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cards and, and so it just just worked that it just, it was a
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perfect storm. And, and so now we have really
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high aspirations for the year of 2026 with eBay.
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And, and actually Greg Thursday, this coming Thursday, we're
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doing our biggest eBay live ever.
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They have something called Gem Midnight.
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And if you go to our eBay page now it's legacy cards with AZ
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777. You can just click on yet you'll
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see if you cannot miss eBay live under our under our name.
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Like you look, look at any of our listings and then you click
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what we have December 20 or January 29th, sorry.
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And you'll see it's about 65 cards, but there's a, a Babe
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Ruth card, a Gaudi Ruth, a 51 Bowman Mantle, 52 Bowman, like
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some really, really awesome cards that we're putting up for
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up for sale. eBay kind of incentivized us to to put some
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nicer cards up there up on their gym midnight.
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So, you know, we're, we're just, we're just going to try to hit
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it out of the park this Thursday and and see what happens so.
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That's awesome and one of the things that Mookie was saying is
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that when you do your lives you've got all the cards pre
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scanned and loaded in there so people can get a good picture of
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it. Sometimes you hear about these
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stories about what not and stuff and it's like you can't really
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see the card that great. But he, he was saying, and I
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haven't seen one of your live. So he's seen two or three of
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them, I think. And he was saying that you've
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got the pictures preloaded so people can get a really good
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look at it. And the length of the auctions
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are like 1520 seconds and, and it's enough time to look the
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card over on the scan and stuff. And so they, they were really
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complimentary about that. I want to circle back to
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something you just said. You said not many people have
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the kind of selection that we can bring.
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I won't. This is one of the things I
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wanted to ask you about. There are a lot of dealers out
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there, but there aren't a lot of destination dealers.
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There aren't a lot of dealers that when people walk in the
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door, they go, I'm going there first and a lot of people go to
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your table first and a lot of that is because of the selection
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that you have. What is the strategy that you've
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used to be able to to produce continually the kind of
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selection that you have? Like what do you think is your
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secret sauce to getting people to sell to you or you just in so
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many? Like what is the answer to how
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you keep getting amazing stuff? Well, I'll give you an example.
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So the Dallas show, which I think you want to talk about,
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right? Yeah.
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So the weekend, the Dallas show, I think it was January 12th
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through 15th, whatever it was, Dalen was in Dallas.
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Him, JB and Frankie were in Dallas the first couple of days.
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And then there was a show in New York.
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And So what I did is I flew to New York and I was in New York
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and trying to trying to buy cars there.
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Well, I bought a literally I bought 2, I bought 2.
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I filled up two slab cases of cards and now granted one of
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them, probably 3/4 of 1 was a 55 tops set.
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That was all PSA slab that I, that I had a, a kind of a
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pre-existing deal and, and we, it came to fruition there.
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But, but the rest, you, you know, the, the dealer support us
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well. But at the end of the day,
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nobody gives you anything. Greg, you, you, you know that I,
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I, I break bread, right Yet, you know, somebody wants some money
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and, and guess what they get, they get the, they get the money
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and, and you know, I try to make it easy too, right.
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But if I, if I, if I walk up to a dealer and I'm able to pick
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out a decent amount of cards from them, yeah, I can't buy
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from all the dealers, but I can buy from some and from the ones
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that I buy from, we're able to, you know, make deals and, and
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make things happen pretty, pretty, pretty darn well.
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And it's just just just great, man.
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I mean it's. One of the things that I, I was,
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I think is for one of the your, your kind of secret sauces, if
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you will. I've got, I'm going to be at the
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the West Coast Card Show and I'm looking forward to being able to
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hang out, give you a hug, talk a little bit and be in there.
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And one of the things is I've got a buddy who's going to go
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down to the show and he's bringing some stuff to sell.
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And I'm like, we'll go to Ash 1st.
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And he's like, well, why you think Ash and I go?
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Because Ash pays strong. And if you pay strong, you're
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going to attract the buyers. But the days of guys paying, you
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know, 6570%, like there are still some dealers that that's
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what they'll pay. But the guys who see, you know,
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high quality stuff, they see liquid stuff and they're willing
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to step up for it and, and do volume and, and make a thinner
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margin, but, but do better because they're buying good
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liquid stuff. Like to me, that's the way to
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go. And, and it seems to me because
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I mean, I've sold stuff to you before, pretty much all of my
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friends have sold stuff to you before.
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And I think it's largely because you pay well.
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I mean, if somebody, if there was a guy 2 boots down paying
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10% more than you, they'll be selling there.
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Tell me about the Dallas show and tell me about was the Dallas
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show as busy as I heard that the Dallas show was?
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And if so, was it busy for Pokémon and modern or was it
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busy for Vintage too? The Dallas show was always a
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great show. It's I think one of the great
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things about the Dallas show is that it's got something there
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for everyone. And and and so it was it's I
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think if you talk to any deal at the Dallas show, they're going
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to tell you, hey man, we did. We did great.
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And and and so. So yeah, would you say it was
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busier than it has been in years past or is it similar in how
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busy it was? For me personally, it was a
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normal Dallas show. Like we always do pretty good at
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the Dallas show. It was a normal Dallas show.
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Now, more people there. Yes, there were more people
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there and I know a lot of dealers that did really well.
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We we helped a lot of dealers do really well, right, because we
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bought a insane amount of stuff from the Dallas card show.
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We bought an insane amount of stuff from the Dallas show.
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We bought an insane amount of stuff from the from the the the
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White Wing show. Yeah, exactly.
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And and so, you know, we just again, just a great show and.
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Now, let me ask you this because one thing a lot of people are
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always curious about is like over the last, you know, six
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months, year, even 2 years, if you look back over the amount of
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time, there are certain players that are always in demand.
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I mean, people are always buying Mantle, they're always buying
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Ruth. You know, they're buying those
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big names like that, Cobb. But there are some guys that I
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have to believe you've seen more people ask about and more
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frequency like who's kind of trending up.
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And that's a common thing that people ask me is they say, hey,
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when you talk to dealers, who are they saying like, yeah, all
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of a sudden it's Rodgers. Hornsby's the guy, you know,
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he's a guy that I hear people asking for more than others.
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Or is it pre war more than post war now than it was a year or
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two ago? Or is it the crackerjack said?
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Or what are the things that you feel like over the last six
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months or so you're seeing either move faster or players or
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there's more people asking about like what's kind of the trend
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right now in vintage? Because you know, it's like
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Ohtani, of course, he has a huge season.
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Judge has a huge season. But with vintage guys, the
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trends are a little bit harder to see and they're probably a
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little bit more muted. Is there is there any set or era
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or player that you feel like his seems to have been moving up
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recently? I would say in the last let's
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call it six months, OK, last six months, I mean everything has
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been moving to be honest with you.
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Now I appeal is really is really important to people and you
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could tell by comps how how important it is right and how
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much people are paying 4 cards that have really good I appeal.
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I mean, you know, Mike Baker has really stormed the storm the
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hobby with his NBA gold and silver labels and his I appeal
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stickers and so forth, right. I mean, if he goes to a show,
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he's got, he can't sit at his table.
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He's got to have he, he sits in a in a different room and has
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his guys bring cards back and forth to him.
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So that way he can actually sit and focus on what he needs to
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do. And I'll, I'll be honest with
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you, Greg, he's really tough. And so I mean, I, I would, I
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would say the I appeal factor in cards.
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It has really has just really taken off.
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I mean, I, I think we all all love cards that look beautiful,
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right? I mean, remember the cob that
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you bought for me at the National, the, the red one and
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how much you, you how beautifully read that was.
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And and, you know, we could say that about a lot of cards and,
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you know, the banks, the banks 5 that you bought, right?
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Phenomenal, phenomenal card. I mean, yeah, you know, you
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know, so, so I think we all love awesome cards.
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And I think now just more people getting into the hobby are
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learning about I appeal and paying a little more, paying
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more for I appeal. But you know, honestly, man,
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people are buying, especially Greg with me being on eBay.
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It's a whole different world, right?
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A lot of people like to complain about eBay.
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And sure, I mean, look, you run a billion dollar company, you're
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going to have some screw ups. I mean, it just is what it is.
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But they they bring such a diverse amount of collectors to
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your inventory and all kinds of things sell stuff that, you
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know, I could have sitting at a show for months sells on eBay
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quickly and get, you know, and this is just to experience,
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right? We've just started our eBay
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experience in the month of December.
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So people are buying tobacco cards.
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People are buying, like you said, Cracker Jacks.
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I mean, they look, people love the Cracker Jack set, the 48
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leaf short prints, right? Those have really gotten a lot
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of you know, people are collecting that set and they
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want higher grades and and so forth.
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But you know, I I think just anything that is a rarity and
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and good stuff is is is just in demand.
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Joe Jackson cards. I mean he he doesn't have any
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cards, right. And so through his, through him,
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you know, hopefully being elected to the Hall of Fame,
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right, or being eligible to be elected to the Hall of Fame.
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Well, people like, oh, Joe Jackson, I got to get my Joe
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Jackson's, I got to get my Joe Jackson's and there's not, but
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so many to have. And then there's not, but so
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many that are affordable, right? So, so it's, it's, it's, it's
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tough to have a, you know, to say you have a Joe Jackson card
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in your collection means you probably have a pretty valuable
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card. And and so.
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So yeah. So let me ask you the the I
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appeal thing like there's no doubt that there's a premium and
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there's no doubt that it when it when there's a Mike Baker
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sticker on there, it draws a lot.
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How much has that changed how you comp cards?
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I mean, because at one point it was like a three is a three.
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This is a high end 3. This is a maybe a lower end 3,
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but it's still a fairly tight range.
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Like when you're not just when you're selling, but when you're
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buying, how far out of that range does a high I appeal card
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take? It does does 3 sell for a normal
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4? Now if it's a really high or if
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it has the I appeal or doesn't even touch a a file, like how
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much does it go up 10/20/30 percent, 50% like when you're
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selling, but also when you're buying when somebody brings a
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card to your table and it's like this is a stunning 4.
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Like like how does it affect what you pay and how does it
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affect what you price it at? Yeah, it's a it's a good
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question. And a lot of times, Greg,
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sometimes you got to let stuff go because people want too much
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money. I'll I'll give you an example
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though. I bought a 52 Eddie Matthews ESA
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1 and I I paid the guy 4000 bucks for it, right.
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It was a fresh grade, really, really nice one.
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And I don't know, I, I just said, hey, did this car doesn't
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look like a one. It looks like a.
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It looks like a four or five right now.
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It had a wrinkle down the middle, but yeah.
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And you can only see it if you turned it to an angle.
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And and so when you have things like that, you know, you just
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pay up for the card. I mean, you know, there was a
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Dandy Mantle 1.5 that I had and I paid, I paid the money that a
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three would cost for that 1.5. Guess how long it lasted?
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Not even 1 show. Yeah.
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And, and, and so, so you know, it's, it's just, sometimes you
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just got to go with your gut. A lot of times when I get really
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high, I appeal cards because, you know, it's, it's hard to
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justify it with your brain that, Oh my gosh, this George Miken
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card in a 5 is a $12,000 card. But this one, this one that's
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perfectly centered with a Mike Baker gold label is, is worth 30
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grand. Well, how do you mentally
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justify that? You don't, but you drop that
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sucker in Heritage or you drop it at, you know, one of these
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other auction houses that charge, you know, whatever they
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charge, you know, Heritage charges X percent, Rea charges Y
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percent, etcetera, etcetera, right.
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The auction houses, there's a reason why they charge that
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because they get the bidders that don't come to the shows.
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They get the bidders and the eyes that, that don't come.
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And guess what? Those guys click buttons and,
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and so I'll the, the Miken is an example, right?
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I, I have the George Miken card and I gave it to, gave it to
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heritage because I, I, I didn't, I don't think anybody's going to
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pay me what I want for that card.
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But, but I, but, but I think Heritage is going to get the
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eyes that deserve to see that card.
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I mean, they sold A6 for $50,000, right?
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There's no way you can logically look at a six and be like, oh,
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you know what? The last 6 sold for 15.
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I'm going to pay 50. I'm going to pay 40.
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Well, it doesn't even make sense.
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But guess what? When you see that stupid cop out
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there that somebody paid it, it's like, oh, or you know what?
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Somebody might pay it now. Then again, somebody might.
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I've been wrong about this stuff too, and stuff is done short
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money. It's just, you know, some
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sometimes, man, it's just the roll of the dice and you just
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take a shot and see what happens.
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Is that what you do when there's a card that you just say, man,
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it's it's worth more? Like, I mean, so take that mic
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in. Like if you put that price tag
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on it and you put it in your case, people are going to look
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at it and go come on. But if you put it up in in a
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heritage auction, it'll probably get the number that you think.
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Is that what you do with the cards that are clearly better
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and are going to sell for way more is instead of sticking them
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in the case, you put them up for auction?
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Because that seems like a really, I mean, people are weird
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about that. Like they see a card in your
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case and they go, dude, that's double comps and you're like,
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dude, it's it's worth every penny of it.
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How do how do you is that basically the deal is those are
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the cards you put up for auction?
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I put them in my case, right? But but I I also mentally know
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that you know what? I get the eyes, I get people to
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look. I don't want to hang one of the
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cards for forever. And, and so I'll give stuff a
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shot. But also if, if I know I'm
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overpaying for a card and it's going to take a certain buyer
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for this specific card, especially a higher end card,
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lower end card, you know, a card that's 3456000, maybe a little
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bit different, maybe I'll hang on to it longer.
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But you know, if comps on the card are 3000 and I'm asking
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seven, well, I'm asking 7 for a reason, right?
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Because I think it's, I think it's worth that or close to that
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or whatever the case. And, and so you may not agree,
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Mike Petty may not agree, but guess what?
24:18
Tony might agree and say, you know what, I want that card.
24:22
I've been looking for that card that looks like that within this
24:26
price range. I know if I get a five that
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looks like that, it's going to cost me 3X.
24:32
So I'll buy your three and I'll gladly overpay for your three,
24:36
quote UN quote overpay for your three because I'm getting the
24:39
card that I want. And, and you know, so, you know,
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it's not a perfect science, Greg, if it was a perfect
24:47
science, then you know, whatever.
24:50
But, but, but you know, I, I like, I, I don't know, I, I, I
24:55
live and breathe this stuff. So, so I, I know what happens at
24:59
the show. Guess what?
25:01
I know what happens online. Why do I know what happens
25:03
online? Because I clicked those buttons
25:05
and, and so when, when cards are going off and when golden just
25:09
sold the 52 mantle PSA one for $44,000, which doesn't even make
25:17
any sense, right? I know that's a real sale
25:21
because guess who was the underbidder?
25:24
I'm guessing. I was, I was right.
25:26
I, I, I, I did. I put a, a bid in that I thought
25:30
was too high, but I wanted the card and it wasn't the best 11,
25:34
but it was a good one. And in my opinion and I, I saw
25:38
value in it and I said, Hey, I'm going to put my bid up to here.
25:41
And you know, guess what? I, I, I help the market out with
25:45
that card and you know, so I'll pay really strong on some stuff.
25:50
And, but, you know, I think that's the thing about us is we
25:54
have such a variety of outlets for our cards that that
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sometimes I could pay pretty aggressively.
26:03
But there's other things that we do, whether it be a break,
26:05
whether it be eBay, whether it be Facebook, whether it be, you
26:09
know, a show, There's just, and, and so that's why, and to your
26:15
point, that's why we have such a wide variety of cards because we
26:20
have a wide variety of platforms that we show the cards at.
26:26
And so people see it. People see it and you know,
26:30
people collect different things and like different things.
26:34
It's, it's so interesting to hear you say some of this and,
26:37
and I know that your network of dealer friends and, and who
26:42
you've kind of rubbed off on at times.
26:46
Like I know Garrett ballpark memories that he was kind of
26:49
your protege for a little while and he was kind of working with
26:52
you and, and he's a super smart guy and seen and I know you guys
26:57
still do a lot of deals together.
26:58
He was just talking on his podcast the other day about some
27:01
deals that you did, I think at the Dallas show, maybe even and,
27:06
and, and it's interesting because like I see Garrett and,
27:10
and he's, you know, he, he vlogs himself at shows buying stuff
27:15
and you kind of see what he's paying.
27:17
And there are times where you're like, he's paying pretty strong.
27:21
He's paying, he's paying like comp, but it's because he sees
27:26
that card is worth way more than comp because it's a 59 Gibson
27:31
that's never centered and it's perfectly centered.
27:34
And so he can, he can, you know, raise the price above it because
27:37
he knows from his experience. And it's fun to see some of your
27:41
fingerprints. You know, it's like the, the
27:43
family tree of like, you know, Saban and stuff where you know,
27:47
there's, there's some of that, that you can tell you there's
27:50
some fingerprints, some ash fingerprints out there and, and
27:52
like what Garrett's doing and stuff.
27:54
And that's pretty cool. I have one last question.
27:57
We're at 30 minutes. This has been, as always, this
28:01
is a lot of fun. A lot of talk has been about how
28:04
hot the Pokémon market is, and I know that the Dallas show has a
28:10
good amount of Pokémon and a lot of us sports card guys have
28:15
opinions about Pokémon and oh, it's, you know, it's taking away
28:19
tables is taken away with this making things more crowded.
28:23
Whatever. My question for you is from your
28:26
perspective as a vintage dealer as really like the premier
28:30
vintage dealer in the country is, is Pokémon?
28:36
In your opinion, is Pokémon good or bad for sports cards?
28:42
I think it's good for sports cards because guess what?
28:44
The 6789101112 year old that buys the Pokémon?
28:51
He's got a parent and their parent, maybe, maybe, maybe they
28:57
get into doing Pokémon together. Maybe they don't.
29:00
Maybe they go to a show and dad goes to buy baseball cards and
29:04
basketball cards and football cards and little little Johnny
29:08
goes and buys his Pokémon. And like, it's a hobby, man.
29:13
It's supposed to be fun. And like, if you can't bring
29:16
your kid to a show and have a good time, then that's like,
29:21
that sucks, right? Like you, you know, because life
29:23
is all about like we want to, we want to nurture and take care of
29:26
our kids. And if your kid likes Pokémon,
29:30
then good, good for good for him, man, go get a Charizard or
29:34
whatever, whatever it is Like I, I'm Dalen likes Pokémon, right?
29:39
I don't know nothing. I don't, I, I, I know Charizard
29:42
and I know what, I know how to look up comps, right, whatever.
29:45
But I don't, I don't really deal with Pokémon.
29:48
And if I buy a Pokémon card, I try to get rid of it ASAP.
29:53
And you know, but he genuinely likes this stuff.
29:58
Like he really likes it. And so, you know, good for him.
30:02
I mean, it's what he grew up on, right.
30:04
So just like we grew up on 89 upper deck Griffey's, guess
30:08
what? Dalen's 22 years old.
30:10
He grew up ripping Pokémon packs.
30:13
He grew up playing Pokémon. And you know, I think, I don't
30:17
think it's a bad thing if I opened up a card shop, OK, we've
30:21
had this conversation. I'd love to open up a card shop,
30:24
but like, I don't want to open it.
30:26
Like it's just like, it's just a lot, man, to do a card shop.
30:29
So, you know, because then you got to understand Pokémon, then
30:33
you got to understand all the modern stuff.
30:37
And it's just a whole different world of collector, whole
30:42
different world of people. And it's just not what I'm
30:45
really into. And so like, I don't know if my
30:49
son ends up doing it one day, good for him.
30:52
It's not what I want to do. Although I, I like, I gently
30:57
thought about it because like, also I thought, hey man, Pokémon
31:00
would be really good for my community, right?
31:03
Because the kids would have somewhere to go.
31:05
They'd have to be able to go to the local card shop, mom and dad
31:08
be able to come and whatever, buy the cards and, you know,
31:11
you'd be able to get in touch with the community.
31:13
So I, I think it's just, it's, it's how you look at it.
31:16
Pokémon is not a bad thing. It's just a different thing.
31:20
And, but, but guess what? It's all about collecting.
31:23
And they like their, they like to open their Pokemons and put
31:26
them in the little sleeves, just like we did with our 8384858687
31:32
tops. We did the same thing, but just
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with baseball cards. OK.
31:36
They got weird pictures on them and we don't get it.
31:38
So what life goes on, right? Like it, it, it, it's OK.
31:42
Like I think it's good that they're collecting something and
31:46
that they like something and they want to do it.
31:48
That's and, and if that takes dad into the show with them to
31:52
look at some Pokémon and and dad gets, gets, gets the Jones back
31:56
to buy baseball cards as many of us have, right that you talk,
32:02
you talk you, you asked me earlier and I never answered.
32:05
Why do I like to do eBay live? Because like I'm, I'm selling
32:08
$100 cards, like, you know, so it's not what what I really do,
32:13
but man, it's fun, right? It's just fun to talk baseball
32:17
cards, to talk shop, to see people from all over the country
32:21
ask us questions and stuff like that.
32:24
And just to just to screw around baseball cards for a little bit
32:28
and it not be so serious. Like, you know, we make a couple
32:32
bucks. I mean, we don't, you know, I
32:34
mean, it is what it is, right? We make a couple bucks, but it's
32:36
it's like, you know, it's not life changing money, but it's
32:40
fun. It's fun to auction off some
32:42
cards. It's fun to talk about a 73
32:45
Clemente and APSA 6 right? Cool card, 607080 dollar card.
32:50
And you get to talk about Clemente for a little bit or
32:53
somebody in the chat talks about Clemente and or you learn
32:56
something new. So many people, Greg, have so
32:59
much baseball knowledge. It's just insanity, right?
33:03
We were talking last night about Willie Mays's last card.
33:06
Greg, when's What is Willie Mays's last Tops card?
33:10
Oh boy, you're putting me on the spot.
33:12
It's going to be like, it's 70. It's 72, isn't it?
33:17
Is it 72? So he had a regular card in 73.
33:21
Tops. No 7373 is in the Mets uniform,
33:24
right? I think it's 70. 3 So he had a
33:27
73 TOPS card card. I think it's #660 if I'm not
33:31
mistaken, I don't remember the exact card number, he had a 73
33:34
TOPS card. But then somebody in the chat
33:37
was like, oh, he's got a 74 World Series card with the Mets.
33:43
And so that is his last tops card is the the 74 tops card now
33:49
I think 75, you might have those MVP cards and stuff like that.
33:53
We don't really count that. But but that was something that
33:56
yet, you know, like I said, this guy had a wealth of knowledge
33:59
and he was like, Hey, you, you know, it's it's this is the
34:02
card. So it's just fun, man.
34:04
Like, you know, if you man, if you can't have fun doing this
34:07
like me and you talking right now, it is fun.
34:10
I'm not like the only reason I'm here is because, like, you're
34:15
cool and it's fun to it's fun to talk with you and people.
34:19
People like when we get together and talk about the hobby, well,
34:23
that, that, that praise God, that's a great thing that we're
34:27
able to bring to the community just with me.
34:30
And you would talk like this if we weren't doing a podcast.
34:33
Yeah. You know, you may ask.
34:36
Me some questions or tell. Right.
34:38
Like it's just, you know, we're just living and and so to be
34:42
able to do that and and to talk about something you enjoy, you
34:48
know, is, is a good thing. There's so many bad things we
34:51
could do with our time. Guess what?
34:54
Look, you're, you're calling me from your man cave.
34:56
You got your headphone going. And like, you know, we're just
34:59
talking baseball cards. Like, yeah, you know, life could
35:02
be way, way, way, way worse. And and, and so it's, it just
35:07
brings, brings joy and enjoyment to something that we already
35:12
love. So well said my friend.
35:16
I'm looking forward to it. We're we're about what, 3 weeks
35:19
away from getting to see each other.
35:21
I'm looking forward to checking out your inventory, seeing what
35:24
you got and hanging out a little bit there down in Ontario, CA.
35:30
So we'll do this again. Again, my goal is at least one a
35:35
month. If not, you know, 1 1/2, two a
35:37
month. I know that there are times
35:38
where you're busier than others and same with me, but this is a
35:42
lot of fun for me. I, I was talking with a buddy
35:45
last night on the phone for about 45 minutes and I said,
35:48
man, this would have been a great episode.
35:49
We should have just recorded this and that's basically what
35:52
we just did. So everybody out there
35:55
listening, appreciate it. Again, this is Ash
35:59
legacycards.net cards with AZ at the end of it.
36:04
He does his eBay lives, which I've heard great things about.
36:08
He'll be at the Ontario show. Any shows between now and
36:11
Ontario that you'll be at? We're going to Tristar in
36:15
Houston this weekend as well. Yeah, we always check that out.
36:18
I get to hang out with my buddy Kevin and and so so just good
36:23
man get to get to enjoy, enjoy that show.
36:26
They always have great autographed guests and stuff
36:29
there and so. Yeah, they have great
36:32
autographed guests at that show. Tristar is great with that.
36:35
Yeah. All right, buddy.
36:37
Well, thank you. We'll talk soon.
36:39
Again, if there's something you want to hear us talk about, hear
36:43
Ash's opinion on, put it in the comments.
36:45
I'll check those out and bring them to the next one.
36:49
All right, Greg, good talking. All right, buddy.
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Bye.