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Tony Parks on the Salt Lake Bees, MLB playoff races, Whitt downplaying hate between Michigan and Ohio St + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Who were you Tune to the Shan O'Connell Show from
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  Speaker 1: the Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred at ninety
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  Speaker 2: To be.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Shan O'Connor Show.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome in one of our favorite guys to talk to boys,
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  Speaker 3: the Salt Lake Bees. Emanuel here talking some college football,
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  Speaker 3: some NFL football, some basketball, all things coming up. As
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  Speaker 3: baseball season eventually winds down, our friend Tony Parks joins
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  Speaker 3: us here on ESPN seven hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome Tony again.
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  Speaker 2: How are you? Oh see? Man, I'm great at the ballpark,
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  Speaker 2: beautiful day. I'm here in El Paso, Texas, ready to rock,
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  Speaker 2: but also excited about everything that goes on in the
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  Speaker 2: world of sports. I'm excited for college football as well. Man,
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  Speaker 2: Like this is a great time of year.
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  Speaker 1: Where does l Passel rank on the the sort of
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  Speaker 1: cities you get to visit as the voice of the beast.
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  Speaker 2: Favorite place to call the game? Not among my favorite
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  Speaker 2: cities by any means, don't dislike it. Least favorite to
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  Speaker 2: travel too, because there's pretty much never a non stop right.
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  Speaker 2: Least favorite ballpark food. It's here in Opal so I
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  Speaker 2: have tried out all the different stadiums, so they rank
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  Speaker 2: last there. But the ballpark is wonderful, I mean really scenic, wonderful,
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  Speaker 2: little different features in terms of some cool like premier
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  Speaker 2: seating and rooftops and a beautiful look at downtown. So
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  Speaker 2: it's it's my number one favorite place to call a
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  Speaker 2: game in the league, but it doesn't rank high in
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  Speaker 2: a number of other areas in terms of like's acting,
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  Speaker 2: Jack sedd Tory used to play here and he's on
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  Speaker 2: our coaching staff. He said, all right, where's the best
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  Speaker 2: place to go eat? He's like, yeah, no, I'm any
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  Speaker 2: great spots. I'll be honest about Okay, fantasy you're home
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  Speaker 2: away for a moment, like time, a call like it is, okay, man,
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  Speaker 2: sounds good.
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  Speaker 1: That for me, that's the whole ranking for me is
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  Speaker 1: where can I get good food at the ballpark?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean I'm more of a glutton than most
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  Speaker 1: people are. But when you when you're at opposing ballparks,
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  Speaker 1: you know, gimmicky franken foods are kind of a thing
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  Speaker 1: in baseball these days. Do you go for that or
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  Speaker 1: you just like, no, man, I want my ballpark dog,
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  Speaker 1: I want my cracker Jacks.
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  Speaker 2: What do you do. Yeah, I'm not gonna go for
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  Speaker 2: the donut sandwich or something like that, right, I hate
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  Speaker 2: to be the old school guy. I'm gonna try out
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  Speaker 2: all your everybody. I try out your dog, your stadium,
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  Speaker 2: I give you your dog a shot, and then I'll
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  Speaker 2: decide a lot from that point on. And here it
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  Speaker 2: was it was not just last. I mean we're talking
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  Speaker 2: like dead laughs. I mean like dfl bro like whoa last, right,
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  Speaker 2: And I'm thinking like El Paso, Yeah, I have all
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  Speaker 2: this flavor. Yeah, I'm looking I can see from my
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  Speaker 2: broadcast foods. So I'm like, okay, like you gotta have
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  Speaker 2: like you know this good text mechs around here that nope.
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  Speaker 2: And I was shocked with that at this stadium. So
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was like, all right, man, I gave
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  Speaker 2: it a try. You know, you had your shot. I
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  Speaker 2: got to be honest those Salt Lake in terms of like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, their food has been among the best,
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  Speaker 2: but I've also had more chances to try out their
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  Speaker 2: different burgers and things like that. So but you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's all part of the experience. And you know you're ranking.
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  Speaker 2: The ranking is the ranking, and so you know, I
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  Speaker 2: used to just evaluate it not on emotion, just based
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  Speaker 2: on performance. When I did the AP ballot, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: the exact same way when it comes to all of this,
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  Speaker 2: there's no emotion. I'll just call it like it is, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I want to jump into some major league discussion
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  Speaker 1: here with you for a second, since the last time
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  Speaker 1: we talked, the Dodgers got even more dodgery and they
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  Speaker 1: were able to trade for schoobl And it's just it's
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  Speaker 1: one of these things where like there are some traditionalists
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  Speaker 1: in baseball who are kind of rolling their eyes. There
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  Speaker 1: are some folks saying like they're ruining this game. We've
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  Speaker 1: had murderers row bullpens. We've had murders row starting lineups.
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  Speaker 1: We've had murderers row batting lineups in the history of baseball,
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  Speaker 1: and they become legendary. But for some reason, I think
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  Speaker 1: people are kind of sick of that over it with
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers because it seems like it's just because of
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  Speaker 1: the finances. How are we supposed to be viewing this
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  Speaker 1: as baseball traditionalists when they've built an All Star team
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  Speaker 1: in LA.
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  Speaker 2: They really have and it makes it fun to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Going back to the Yankee years right in the late
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  Speaker 2: nineties two thousands, because that was fun to hate them,
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily because I was always indifferent to the Yankees,
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  Speaker 2: but I did get sick of them winning all the time.
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  Speaker 2: So suddenly it was, you know, a best just covert
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  Speaker 2: against them. In certain postseasons. It'll be that way for
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers. You know, they've won back to back titles.
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  Speaker 2: They are the best team in Major League Baseball in
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  Speaker 2: the last few years. When I look at it, there's
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  Speaker 2: a variety of different ways to see those, and one
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to the Dodgers, their commitment matches their expectations,
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  Speaker 2: plain and simple. All other teams had the chance to
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  Speaker 2: go out there and do this, they didn't, and the
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers did. So. While I don't root for the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 2: we had a saying in our house growing up, and
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  Speaker 2: we were all big Cubs fans and everything, but there
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  Speaker 2: was just something we didn't like the Dodgers. And we
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  Speaker 2: are phrase with anybody but the Dodgers. So the postseason
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  Speaker 2: would hit and if it wasn't the Cardinals obviously, or
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  Speaker 2: the White Sox, it was anybody but the Dodgers. And
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  Speaker 2: so we find ourselves rooting for you know, you name it.
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  Speaker 2: The Blue Jays last year, we could go through it,
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees the year before. This is one of those
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  Speaker 2: things though, where they had their opportunity, they were able
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  Speaker 2: to get Trek Scuoble. I saw the deal and thought, woit,
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  Speaker 2: that's it. That's all. Nobody else came up with a
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  Speaker 2: better deal than that. Are we kidding ourselves right now?
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  Speaker 2: So I do think that there is something where there's
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  Speaker 2: a mixture of Major League teams who are far more
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  Speaker 2: aggressive when it comes to wanting to do what it takes.
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  Speaker 2: And the Dodgers are the most aggressive. And it's not
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  Speaker 2: just the money they're spending. There's a lot that they
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  Speaker 2: do in their organization. The Oklahoma City Commets were just
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  Speaker 2: in Salt Lake and they were red hot, and you
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  Speaker 2: looked at that lineup and you looked at the details
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  Speaker 2: and everything that was going into it, and you saw
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  Speaker 2: off East team that in the Angels organization was competing
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  Speaker 2: to win games and a series that and you could
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  Speaker 2: see a Triple A team that still had a lot
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  Speaker 2: of guys. I mean Snell was there, I mean Nack
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  Speaker 2: was there. We had guys that were there. Was like
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  Speaker 2: what glass now, I'm going wow, Like these guys don't
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  Speaker 2: make the cut like some of them. Obviously it was
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  Speaker 2: a rehab assignment. But you're looking at you know, Gervais,
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  Speaker 2: You're looking at guys where you're like, yeah, they spent
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  Speaker 2: time with the Dodgers this year, and there's a standard
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  Speaker 2: and a level and a commitment to their level of
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  Speaker 2: play based on what they built in their system. They
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  Speaker 2: deserve all the credit in the world for that part.
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  Speaker 2: And anybody who obviously hates on them for that, well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. Ryan Ward's been
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  Speaker 2: the Triple A or the TCL MVP two years in
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  Speaker 2: a row and barely gets a sniff. He's led the
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  Speaker 2: league in home runs through year in a row, barely
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  Speaker 2: gets a sniff. With the Dodgers, that's what they built
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  Speaker 2: in their death and they deserve all the credit in
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  Speaker 2: the world for that. You got to you just got
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  Speaker 2: to call it like it is. But as far as
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  Speaker 2: what we're seeing economically in the league with no salary cap,
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  Speaker 2: and I think you're you're looking at a number of
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  Speaker 2: owners who are all in different places on how they
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  Speaker 2: view it and what the players Union is going to
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  Speaker 2: go for. The scary part is is with the CBA
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  Speaker 2: expiring here coming up, it is imminent that we're headed
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  Speaker 2: for a work stoppage of some kind, and whether that's
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  Speaker 2: they don't find a deal until right there in March,
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  Speaker 2: or they find a deal and the season starts suspended
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of April. Like you can just see
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  Speaker 2: the gap between the two sides. So the fear that
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  Speaker 2: is there that we could be headed, you know, for
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  Speaker 2: losing pieces of a season, or or postponing the start
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  Speaker 2: of a season, or whatever the Blueman doom that can
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  Speaker 2: be out there. I do think that there's some reasonable
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  Speaker 2: concern for what's coming up, because the two sides are
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  Speaker 2: far apart, and now you just saw what happened here.
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  Speaker 1: Tony is the casual baseball fan aware of the miz
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  Speaker 1: are people missing out on one of the most electric,
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  Speaker 1: blistering arms that we have seen in modern baseball because
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  Speaker 1: he's a Milwaukee Brewer. And of course I'm asking you
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  Speaker 1: about Jacob Misera.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and guys like Misra as a Cub fan, and
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  Speaker 2: I was back in the city last week on a Monday.
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  Speaker 2: I actually went to the game the Dodgers and the
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  Speaker 2: Cubs on Monday the third, and it was fun and
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Cubs are playing well, but here's Milwaukee,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, they're just doing what they do. Man,
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  Speaker 2: they just roll out and flex in a big way,
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  Speaker 2: and they're operating really, really well as an organization. With
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  Speaker 2: the miz You're right, especially if you're gonna hit triple
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  Speaker 2: digits like that all the time, he is going to
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  Speaker 2: be misery for everybody else that's out there. And so
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  Speaker 2: it's funny because you know, we're talking on Tani, we're
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  Speaker 2: talking what's going on with the Dodgers. There's so much
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  Speaker 2: conversation happening, and you're right, they're all missing out of
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  Speaker 2: the fact that the team right now with the best
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  Speaker 2: record in Major League Baseball is in Milwaukee, and that
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  Speaker 2: team right there is capable of winning it all. And
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  Speaker 2: everyone will shrug their shoulders and be like pulling the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: which I think is a lazy take because they could.
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  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: I know, Milwaukee's put together a really great club and
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  Speaker 2: they have now an electric arm, and it's really fun
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  Speaker 2: watching the best of the best in Major League Baseball
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  Speaker 2: right now for a couple of reasons. And I think
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  Speaker 2: you'll appreciate this. Look. You can look at some of
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  Speaker 2: the previous eras and see Dominance and guys that went
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  Speaker 2: CG and you know, constantly had you know, one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and whatever pitches and it was efficient and it was
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  Speaker 2: this and that the strike zone is smaller than it's
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  Speaker 2: ever been because now it's the actual strike zone. Oh see,
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  Speaker 2: you go back into those eighties and nineties and it
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  Speaker 2: was like, wow, that day he's filling the bike up fire.
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  Speaker 2: He had a room off the end of the plight
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  Speaker 2: and that's just the way it was. It's like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: but that was a huge advantage for Maddox, Glavin Small,
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  Speaker 2: any pitcher Clemmons that you want to fill in the
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  Speaker 2: blank force. So these guys now it's like oh no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: you have to throw strikes, and you have to be
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  Speaker 2: great with your stuff, and your stuff has to beat
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  Speaker 2: the other guy, who now knows that he has a
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  Speaker 2: challenge to use if you get a bag pall. He
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  Speaker 2: also knows that these umpires are being evaluated in a
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  Speaker 2: stricter way, more so than they ever have and so
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  Speaker 2: there is no weird unwritten rule you got to protect
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  Speaker 2: the plate here. Oh no, you throw a strike, it's
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  Speaker 2: a strike if you throw it. Plate one inches off
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  Speaker 2: the plate. It's a ball, and so that's the way
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  Speaker 2: it is now. So what makes it so impressive? To
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  Speaker 2: your point about the pitchers now in the game, the
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  Speaker 2: best of the best, I think it's even more impressive
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  Speaker 2: because they have to throw it in the zone.
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  Speaker 1: And in missus case, he's throwing it fifty times a
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  Speaker 1: game at one hundred miles an hour in the zone.
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  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. I mean it's just like straight here, you go,
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  Speaker 2: deal with it. You know, it's not like summer reliever.
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  Speaker 2: This dude's going out there and just carving them up.
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  Speaker 2: I just love it, man, I love the best of
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  Speaker 2: the best right now. I think it's sucks he plays
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  Speaker 2: for Milwaukee. Other than that, I like it. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: How has Boston turned things around the way that they've
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  Speaker 1: turned things around? I mean, look, Dodgers, Yankees, red Sox,
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  Speaker 1: these are always going to be the teams people want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about. And the Red Sox for the first
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  Speaker 1: few months of the season was just like, oh, we're
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  Speaker 1: not going to talk about them. They are going to be.
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  Speaker 1: If we do, it's going to be talking about what
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  Speaker 1: a disappointment they are. They won twenty one games in July.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team they look like a
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  Speaker 1: completely different team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was crazy, man. They'd won what twenty seven
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  Speaker 2: out of thirty and then you know, it kind of
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  Speaker 2: hit this like mild hole spell, if you will. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's amazing to watch, like how it happened, and it's
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  Speaker 2: a rare stretch. It's like the rarest of the rare.
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  Speaker 2: They're comparing it to the but the thirty six Giants.
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  Speaker 2: I always just go with, like the three Marlins. That's
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  Speaker 2: the first team that really jumps to my head. And
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  Speaker 2: our manager was on that stack with the three Marlins
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  Speaker 2: and he just said, no, it was it was actually
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  Speaker 2: great defensively is where it started to turn for that team.
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  Speaker 2: You know, with this team, they've been much better with
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  Speaker 2: his own discipline, right, something so simple like that. Now
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they don't hurt themselves nearly as often.
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  Speaker 2: And it's amazing how it happens when you don't hurt
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  Speaker 2: yourself as much, and then you end up being a
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  Speaker 2: much better team. And the Red Sox do a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the little things oh so well, and all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, you know, some of these close losses turn
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  Speaker 2: into close wins. And they've had some luck here and there,
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  Speaker 2: but overall they've deserved their luck, and you just feel
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  Speaker 2: like every time they play their hand, game after game,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to give themselves the best chance to win.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's so crazy. I mean, Boston, you know
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  Speaker 2: what was headed for like a minus twenty nine differential.
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  Speaker 2: You know, now all of a sudden, they're on their
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  Speaker 2: way for like a plus one fourteen. Like this is
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  Speaker 2: just stupid with what they've done and how they've done it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's like they're on pace projections like eighty
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  Speaker 2: four runs on the offensive side, fifty nine on the
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  Speaker 2: defensive side. When you talk about the different advanced metrics
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  Speaker 2: and everything that goes into this, like this is special
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  Speaker 2: and it's cool, and they're a real threat. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they are a real threat obviously to do something great
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  Speaker 2: in October. And so I've never loved or hated the
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  Speaker 2: Red Sox in any way. I've just appreciated watching this
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  Speaker 2: recent stretch and you know, they're a feel good story.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we watched what happened with the Knicks
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  Speaker 2: winning the NBA Finals. They were a feel good story
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  Speaker 2: and I know it's not the same exact thing, but
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  Speaker 2: like where you're wondering just how good can they be,
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  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they want it all. And
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  Speaker 2: so for the Red Sox, the way they've connected, the
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  Speaker 2: way they've come together. You know, we love the movie
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  Speaker 2: Major League, the way they've turned it around. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they you know, they have a
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  Speaker 2: cardboard cut out of their mascot Wally, and they're ripping
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  Speaker 2: off a piece for every single win that they get.
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  Speaker 2: But whatever is happening, it's working, and a good thing
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  Speaker 2: for the Red Sox, man is They've made the East exciting,
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  Speaker 2: they made the American League exciting, and I think it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a really fun race to the postseason
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  Speaker 2: and a total postseason.
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  Speaker 1: A little shifting of the gears in the last thing
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  Speaker 1: before I let you go, so I can stay at
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  Speaker 1: least close to clock. You're the only You're one of
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  Speaker 1: the only real Michigan fans that I know. And obviously
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Witting is now the head coach of the Michigan
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  Speaker 1: Wolverines and big ted media days, he maybe said the
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  Speaker 1: wrong thing about the way he feels over the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: state rivalry and kind of doubled down on that when
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  Speaker 1: asked about it again. It was like, can does it
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  Speaker 1: give us a better chance to beat them? If I
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  Speaker 1: hate them? I don't know, man, I want to beat them.
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  Speaker 1: But as a real amazing Blue fan, how did those
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  Speaker 1: comments sit with Tony Parks?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's okay. First of all, I don't want a
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  Speaker 2: coach who's going to go out there and be something
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  Speaker 2: he's not try and win a press conference. So the
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  Speaker 2: one thing that I've had to try to tell Michigan
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  Speaker 2: fans when they're like, I don't know, I didn't sit
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  Speaker 2: right with me. It doesn't miss. It goes back to
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: the Bronco Menen Hall things. I always remember this, Like
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  Speaker 2: when Bronco was winning conference titles and beating Utah, it
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  Speaker 2: was like, see byus getting back to what they are
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  Speaker 2: and he's being himself and it's making an impact. Then
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  Speaker 2: they would win ten games but lose to Utah, and
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Utah went to the Sugar Bowl, and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: it was I'm sick and tired of all these scriptures
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  Speaker 2: during press conferences and I want my church on Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: but I want my football on Saturday. And the narrative
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  Speaker 2: shifts whether or not you beat your rival. So if
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  Speaker 2: Michigan beats Ohio State, it's like, you know what, at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, he didn't make it bigger
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  Speaker 2: than it needs to be. You know, they're making it
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  Speaker 2: about this and that he's making it about football. That's
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  Speaker 2: what makes Kyle Kyle. You know, he's authentic and that's
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  Speaker 2: what makes him a winner. And if they lose on
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  Speaker 2: you know, a by a quarter of an inch to
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State in Columbus, just because they're good, not because
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: you know, somehow there's something wrong with Michigan. Like I
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: think Ohio State will beat Michigan if you make me
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: pick now, because Ohio State's really good, by the way,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: so and they're in a better spot in their program
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: than Michigan is. So if Ohio State beats them, then
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the narrative will be that Kyle
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: didn't take this game seriously, Like all of a sudden,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: it didn't mean enough to him. Are you out of
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: your mind? Kyle wants to win a national championship. Kyle
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: wants so badly to do that, so he's going to
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: pour everything he has into it. So the idea that
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: he has negative emotions towards the rival, and that will
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: make the difference between third down conversions and you know,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: not converting in the red zone like no, Jay Hill,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Kyle Winningham and everybody. I've always said, if you let
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: the show getting away of the game, congratulations because we
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: can talk about how the emotions play into the rivalry.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: And I can show you in BYU and Utah's history
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: how the emotions were counter effective. They did not impact
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: the team positively. Go look at some of BYU's performances.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Nine fall starts in twenty thirteen. They were a pretty
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: disciplined team up to that point. All of a sudden,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: their two biggest or I think it was twenty twelve
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: rather you know, where they lose the game they probably
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: should have won. I can give you plenty of examples
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: in Utah Vyu's history where you know when people talk about,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: you know, throw out the records and throw out this
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: and throw out that, and it's like yeah, because they
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: let the show get in the way of the game.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Then Kyle in twenty nineteen said we're going to put
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: all the bs aside and just make it about football.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Thirty to twelve and they ran the last nine and
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: it's in three seconds song from off the clock because
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: they were the better team, and they just focused on football,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: not on the show. So I think Michigan Football could
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: actually use in this moment of their program some of
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: that focus rather than making it about all of the
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: circus that goes around it. But it doesn't bother me
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: because the number one thing Michigan football needs right now
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: is authenticity. It's what helped Jim, and I think it's
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: what's going to help.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Kyle Well said, Tony, have a great call on El
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Paso and we'll chat again.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: So thank you for having us man, Thanks so much, brother,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: but good to yourself. Thanks for having me.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Tony Parks, voice of the Salt Lake Bees, who uh
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: unfortunately are not the dirty sodas tonight as they do
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: are on Wednesday nights when it's a home game. Bees
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: in El Paso. Great stuff from Tony as usual.