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Cubs struggle again, NFL Schedule details, Dick Jerardi previews the Preakness, Iowa media access, Wild blow Game 5, · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on a
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  Thursday. The Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  Trent Condon and Ken Miller for the next couple of hours talking
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  sports with you. Thanks for starting your
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  afternoon here with us. Wherever you're listening on the
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  network on the iheart app or Des Moines sports station one O 6.3
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  KX&O, here's what's coming up on our program.
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  Going to take a quick pick, not a quick take at the Preakness
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  Stakes at 12:25 with Dick Girardi.
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  Won't linger on. It's not it's not the most
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  stellar field by any mean. Excellent betting opportunity.
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  We'll take a quick peek at that with Dick Girardi in about 25
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  minutes. After that, we will talk college
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  football and all the moving landscape when it comes to the
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  playoff with Bill Bender from The Sporting News.
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  And then David Kaplan, who's going to join us on Thursdays,
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  on the weeks when I'm not here on Wednesdays.
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  Thank you, Trent, he's going to join us at 1:30.
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  He's just, you know, I didn't want to give up Cappy after
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  talking to him for decades, for crying out loud.
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  So he'll be here to talk about the flailing Chicago Cubs, who
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  all of a sudden not going well, not hitting the baseball.
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  Or maybe it's just that they've run up against the best team and
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  maybe all of baseball in the Atlanta Braves.
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  Certainly ought to a terrific start.
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  Trent will make some picks. We'll get out of here and make
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  way for off the bench with Lucas and Sean.
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  How have you been? I'm doing well.
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  It's a good time of year, lot going on, PGA Championship
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  underway, A leaderboard that leaves even me scratching my
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  head just a little bit. Some of the names you mean.
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  Yeah, absolutely not exactly star-studded at this point.
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  And it all got started at 5:45 our time this.
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  Morning is that when they started is.
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  So the first guys went off, yeah, this morning.
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  And there was somebody in that first group.
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  Well, Fitzpatrick's little brother that they won the team
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  event down in New Orleans a few weeks back.
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  He was part of that first group. And I was just thinking 545, so
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  it's 645 out there, but still to go through all the warmups that
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  these guys do, everything that they do.
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  How early is your wake up call? And how do you sleep, especially
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  him? Right, yeah.
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  I mean, guys making their first major start and things like
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  that, just, I'm just trying to envision what a day you're
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  trying to get yourself to bed by say, 9.
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  O'clock. Up at 3:00, get your shower,
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  take a piss. Probably got to get something in
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  your body right at minimum so you're eating some kind of
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  breakfast. Could piss in the shower to kill
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  two birds with one stone. It times a little tight, right?
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  Yeah, Knock them both out. That's supposed to be good for
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  athlete splitters. That an old.
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  One, I don't know, but I don't have athlete's foot.
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  I'll just put it that. Way me neither we're we're both
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  in good shape over here. I you want to be the course by
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  4:30. I guess.
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  At the at. The and the putting green is it
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  got. Lights, Absolutely.
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  That's another great one. Yeah.
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  I don't know how things look over there in Western PA, but
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  regardless, I just thought that was absolutely wild when I was
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  going through the tee times and it wasn't anybody that had
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  circumstances. That is an early, early start
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  for a tournament. I know it is important.
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  So did you have Matt Rudy yesterday?
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  I did, yes. And, and what did did he come up
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  with a name or two? And what does he think about?
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  I've never seen this course before.
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  I mean, it might have been in a tour stop at some point.
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  I don't recall it. What did Matt Rudy say?
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  So he said that this is a course that has taken a lot of trees
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  out, It's wide open and this is going to look like, I think at
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  times, not in terms of aesthetics, but just the way the
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  course plays, not a. Lot of trees.
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  I'm looking at an overhead view of it right now on whatever
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  channel I'm watching. If you are a golf follower and
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  you've seen this course before, it's been a while since they've
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  had a PGA event, it looks a lot different.
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  They have opened this thing up. So that means bomb it out there
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  and for the big bombers out there hit, it doesn't really
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  matter where it's going to go. You're probably going to have a
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  shot, your second shot to get in there coupled with they didn't
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  make the rough overly long. It's not like you see obviously
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  US Opens, but we've seen PGA's that do that kind of thing.
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  Not the case here. If this was a par 71 or 72, we
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  might be talking about the John Deere Classic.
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  Oh really? Wow, it's going.
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  To be that tight, but to this point that has not been the case
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  and we got plenty of guys on the.
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  Court Jordan Spieth tied for the ladies 3 under.
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  That's the only name I know. And that would be an incredible
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  story. You remember Jordan Spieth,
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  what, now, 15 years ago? It's been a while, yeah.
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  He wins all those majors right away.
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  The one that has eluded him is the PGA Championship.
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  Incredibly close a couple of times back when it was at the
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  August date to be there. He hasn't won an event and I
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  think 82 consecutive starts, something like that and to
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  complete. Does he still have the same
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  caddy, the old school teacher? The old Iowa guy, right?
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  Yeah, I think it is. I think.
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  I don't know if they're still together because honestly, I
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  don't see Smith very often. Yeah, really good point.
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  It's not like the TV networks are going out of there.
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  Michael Greller, is that his name?
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  It is. How about that pull Mr. Miller
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  took a couple of days off? Absolutely.
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  You're sharp coming in there. And are they still together?
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  Let's see. Yeah, it still says Michael
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  Greller, at least according to AI Overview on Google, that that
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  is the case. Now we know.
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  Way that AI overview and I, I, I popped up on just recently, is
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  it pretty good? I mean, can you trust that?
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  No, no. OK, no.
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  I mean, it's a good jumping off point, but I would not use that
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  exclusively. OK, good.
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  For information, because there's plenty of times.
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  Google it, all right? And then you take that next step
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  down and kind of dig a little bit deeper and they miss a few
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  things. OK.
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  AI is improving. Yep.
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  Definitely not at 100% yet. Gotcha.
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  Yes, so do some further checking before you go forward with
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  everywhere they think you found all right yes, so Spieth has the
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  lead right now. He's one of four guys currently
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  at 3 under. Well, we'll watch this obviously
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  as it unfolds throughout the weekend.
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  We'll have Matt Rudy back on Monday to recap this bad boy
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  with us, which I I hope it's a good tournament.
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  I mean, did you? How many guys did you bet?
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  Way too many. And do you have any debutantes?
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  I know you usually get involved. With that is normally just a
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  masters market for me. I get into more of the goofy
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  things. We hit Zach Johnson being the
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  top senior back of the Masters. I didn't get involved in those
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  markets. I just, I kept it simple.
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  I went through, I played, let's see, 1234566 guys to win,
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  including Scheffler. It's a 5 to one.
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  That's pretty good for him. I just got to put it in the
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  back. Pocket.
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  Yeah, yeah, because wasn't he earlier in the week?
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  I thought he was like plus 380. Well, and that's also.
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  Depends where he buys shops. Absolutely.
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  Last night I was looking at Circa, so it was at Bet Rivers
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  on Wednesday that I got him. Maybe it's Tuesday, one of those
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  two days at 5:00 to 1:00. It was the best out there.
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  Circa was plus 480-4475, and then the Fanduel's in the
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  DraftKings. Yeah, you're getting plus 380
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  golf odds and going through and looking at my card, I have a
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  bunch of top 10s, top 20s in there.
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  I don't know, I probably got 20 bets overall.
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  I think 16 of those 20, that's where the best price was.
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  So if you're betting golf. Yeah, you know where to.
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  Go absolutely download the Circus Sports app and that's
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  where you want to be betting. Absolutely no doubt.
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  Mike Palm, by the way, will join us tomorrow at 12:30 if you
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  haven't already registered for your chance to win that
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  unbelievable package to Circa coming up in August at the
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  kxo.com. He could rent, register every
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  day. The grand prize winner is going
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  to get airfare the whole experience and five others will
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  get the experience without the airfare and you'll be staying at
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  the D, So a pretty good consolation prize if you will.
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  So the NFL schedule is coming out kinda we think we know that
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  the international games have been made official.
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  We're also seeing your Bears are starting to pop up in a lot of
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  prime time games, which tells me A that a pretty year last year
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  and B, the NFL is still on board with this team being good this
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  year. Although I don't think it's a
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  foolproof method because for whatever reason, well, I know
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  the reason they're in New York, the Giants.
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  Why did they get so many prime time games?
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  Because it's the New York Giants, it is a but it's such an
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  interesting one to me because they never feel national.
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  I don't know what it is. Even when Parcells got that
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  thing turned around in the late 80s and what they became and
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  obviously winning Super Bowls and what he was able to do with
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  Jeff Hotz Nutler. Yeah.
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  They never had the same feel to be and it's just a feeling
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  thing. I have nothing.
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  I have no numbers to back it up. It's just a feeling.
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  The brands, the Steelers, the Cowboys, even the Packers, those
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  the 49ers, those are, to me, bigger national brands than the
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  New York Giants. Maybe it's because where we are,
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  I don't know. But I guess your point, it's
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  some kind of that feel. Yeah, I can.
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  Feel. But outside of the Packers, I
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  didn't mention anybody from the Midwest.
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  Either. And you, you, you mentioned the
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  NFC East and the brand and the NFC East.
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  It always will be. It's the Cowboys.
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  I also wonder if it's just a a part of, it's not a split
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  because of The Jets. I don't know when the Giants,
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  though, come down, they come down hard and for a long time
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  too. It's not that sustainability.
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  Yeah, the all these teams have had dips.
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  The Steelers have been a lot less than anybody else.
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  But all these organizations have had dips taken step back.
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  We saw the 49ers after those runs really go in for about a
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  decade that they really struggled as an organization.
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  But I guess it's just, it seems like more consistently out of
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  those major national brands, they're always taking big steps
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  back and they go to 4 and 13, five and 12, you know, those
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  kind of seasons that maybe you don't see nearly as often with
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  some of the others. There's going to be 5 games
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  starting on Thanksgiving Eve to Black Friday.
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  You like it? No, it's kind of infringing into
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  both college basketball and college football territory.
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  And family. Maybe you should put that one
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  first. Is Tara listening?
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  I hope she's not. Yeah.
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  And family, yes. Don't, don't want to forget
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  about that part. Selfishly, as a sports fan,
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  though, there's other things. I here's the unintended
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  consequences that I think about. And I noticed this a little bit
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  last season. Busy family, Yes.
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  And it goes hand in hand with what we were just joking about
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  there. But there were some Sunday
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  afternoons I didn't have to be in front of my team.
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  No, there's some bad games, Trent, Some awful games.
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  You're right. Because the fact is, Sunday's
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  now so diluted with other days of the week.
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  You need to go pumpkin, pumpkin picking.
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  You need to. Whatever it is, it feels like
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  the opportunity is on NFL Sundays now, which were sacred.
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  Yeah, absolutely. There is nothing that is taking
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  me away from 12:00 until 6:00 at any time.
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  How many times last year do we say, boy, the early Windows bad
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  or the late windows got two games and they're giving us the
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  Raiders and the Cardinals as one of them, right?
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  Just stinker. And one of the the national game
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  isn't that good. It's not must see, this is what
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  happens when you start to dilute your product and when you find
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  all these windows and all the money that comes along with it.
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  What does that mean? And what does that mean for not
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  your hardcore, probably not even our listening audience that is
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  hardcore listening to sports radio, not that one, but that
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  next year that lives in Iowa and is a huge Seattle Seahawks fan.
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  You look through, all right, we got 6 national windows, we got
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  this game here. This you go through and you say,
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  does it make sense to get Sunday Ticket?
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  Does it make sense to do that? Look, I like watching my team
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  and I'm going to be able to see them and not.
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  But does it really? I don't have YouTube TV, but I
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  can still get it for 400 bucks. Is it worth the investment or
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  for those three games that I can't see on my television?
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  Here's the other thing, I can find an illegal stream.
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  I'll just do it for a couple of games that way.
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  And how many people are making that choice, I wonder.
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  The bottom line for Sunday Ticket because of the.
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  Dilution and it's not getting any cheaper.
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  Trends. No, it's.
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  Not it's not getting any cheaper.
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  You know, your team 111 thing to watch this year is going back to
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  the last couple years before the Bears turned a corner.
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  And I think we can agree they did right.
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  I mean, I know usually it's tough to persuade you with your
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  team sometimes and I've tried to sell you a bill of goods and I
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  was wrong. Normally would be, I'll use
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  KDSM, the local here. It would be easy if say the
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  Packers and the Vikings and the Bears, they're not playing each
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  other and they're all in that early window.
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  It kind of was easy to just, it's kind it's down to either
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  the Packers or the Vikings where we're going to show, right.
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  It's going to be more difficult, I think, to appease more people
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  locally because all three teams, I think the Vikings are going to
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  be. OK, I think so too.
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  I think Kyler MERS going to improve that team.
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  I do. Yeah, I'm with you.
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  Obviously the Packers, we haven't liked the Packers the
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  last couple of years, but there they are.
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  And we? As the seven seed.
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  Yeah, exactly. But we both feel that the bears
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  of are legit. I mean that whole division, my
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  God, because the Lions aren't going anywhere.
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  Lions got got the softest schedule in the in the division
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  for crying out loud. You have to think that they're
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  going to rebound. I I love the NFC North this
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  year. I can't wait to see how it
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  unfolds. But we obviously got a lot of
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  time before that. But we will however, at about
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  7:00 tonight know who's playing who and know where's play, where
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  they're playing, etcetera, etcetera.
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  Let's move on, come back to it. I was basketball schedule
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  released. What was your biggest take away
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  on that if you have? I'm sure you had one, yes.
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  What did you like or what didn't you like?
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  So at the top, like the double place, three good solid teams,
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  the Nebraska ones become yearly and I like that.
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  I do too. Just slap that in Iowa.
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  Nebraska's going to play twice a year in hoops and I'm good with
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  that. Makes a lot of sense.
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  Fan bases that can both travel, we seen fans on both sides in
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  both of the arena, so I think that's a good thing.
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  And keep that one. You get both, Wisconsin, Ohio
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  State, both should be probably tournament teams on the right
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  side of the bubble fighting between another 7 and 11 seed,
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  something like that. The tournament.
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  But both teams are projected at minimum to be there.
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  All right, not difficult. The home slate, you got Indiana
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  with the Freeze coming back to Iowa.
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  I like it. That'll be a storyline.
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  Michigan State and the rest of them all very winnable.
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  Oregon spent a lot in the portal.
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  I'm glad Izzo's coming to Iowa City.
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  Yes. And we, we get an opportunity to
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  get. I'm not.
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  Sure. How many more years he's going
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  to come back to Iowa City? But you're going to, you're
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  going to have to stack up a lot of wins because that road slate,
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  whoa. Illinois, Michigan, Purdue.
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  Out West. Out both LA schools who both are
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  going to be good next season outside of Northwestern and
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  what's Rutgers? Rutgers.
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  Find me some Rd. wins. And the game at Rutgers is
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  usually close. Absolutely.
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  Yeah, that is a daunting Rd. schedule for them coming up this
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  season. I think that's the take away.
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  Where are you going to steal victories?
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  It becomes those Rutgers in Northwestern games are
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  incredibly important and can you steal one more?
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  Can you go into Madison? Can you go into Columbus?
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  Can you get a victory, go into Lincoln, one of those places,
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  maybe one more out of that group.
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  You're not beating Illinois in Champaign.
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  I don't think so, no. West Lafayette, we know what a
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  House of horrors that has been throughout the years for Iowa,
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  and they played well there this year and ultimately couldn't get
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  over the hump in the final 10 minutes of that one.
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  So I think overall that is the biggest take away, just how
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  difficult that schedule is. They're going to be going to
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  Xavier this year for the back end of that home and home.
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  They should be better than they were certainly this season.
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  And there's continued rumblings potentially at home and home
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  also with an SEC program. Do you know?
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  Alabama's been the one I've seen mentioned most.
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  They're usually good. Absolutely.
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  They have been become now a perennial top 15 program in
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  college basketball. I don't know if Nate Oates and
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  and McCollum have some kind of connection or just everyone's
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  making phone calls and that was the one, but that has been the
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  rumor. Nothing definitive.
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  The if. You could choose an SEC school.
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  Who would you want? That'd be fun.
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  Because I was never played Alabama, at least to my
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  knowledge, I can't think of a game, certainly in recent
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  history, when they've taken on the Crimson Tide.
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  Maybe there was an exempt ornament?
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  Would you want Kentucky home and home?
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  Oh, that. 'D be great.
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  Would you want Florida home and home?
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  Sure, anyone, home and home. You said no, that's the key, The
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  biggest. That's the key, yeah.
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  We love it here I. Mean going to Lexington, into
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  that cathedral, into that basketball craze city, That'd be
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  pretty cool. Well, so when's this going to be
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  announced? If indeed there's some legs to
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  it, There's. Still quite a bit.
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  I remember less about this time talking to Coach McCullum on my
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  podcast and talking to him about the scheduling at that point.
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  Now it's year #2A lot of the things, but he had a lot of
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  things that were locked in already.
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  It doesn't sound like they're going to have an exempt
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  tournament, but there's sometimes you see schedules that
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  don't come out until the summer and it's fine in those final
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  games. They also get another game this
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  year. You can play up to 32 this
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  season. So that's also going to be a
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  component. But I don't know, I don't think
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  there's anything definitive of when the actual non conference
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  schedule will come out. Speaking of basketball, but not
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  Iowa, Iowa State and Iowa State's head coach TJ
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  Otzelberger will be with the boys this afternoon. 3:00 TJ
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  Otzelberger joins Sean and Lucas on the Iowa Sports Radio
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  network. If you're a Cyclone fan, a
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  basketball fan, you want to hear from TJTJS with the fellas today
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  at 3:00. You've been following the
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  Combiners at all for quote the locals?
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  A little bit. I've saw the great shooting out
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  of Bennett Sturtz and Milan Manchilovich.
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  No surprise there. Jefferson struggled a little
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  bit, particularly from the free throw line.
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  I saw I was like 5 of 10. I had to stop yesterday and grab
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  something so I was at a sports bar for 5 minutes and.
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  Was it a beer? I didn't know.
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  I didn't have a beer. Yeah, it was picking up a check
• 17:28
  and what I did, one of the TV's had.
• 17:31
  It was out of Bevy's over on 50th St.
• 17:33
  What's the name of it? Bevy's.
• 17:34
  Never heard of it. Yeah.
• 17:35
  You've. I'm sure you've been in that
• 17:36
  area when you were in West Des Moines.
• 17:38
  Yeah. Bradley's is still there.
• 17:40
  It's been there for like 30 years.
• 17:42
  It's in the same little strip. Bradley's.
• 17:43
  Yes, you've been, I almost guarantee.
• 17:45
  I don't know, but I think I don't.
• 17:47
  You've been to Bradley's before, but it's in that same strip mall
• 17:50
  and they had the the five on five scrimmage that they were
• 17:53
  OK. Yeah.
• 17:54
  Yeah. So I watched, I don't know, 90
• 17:56
  seconds of it. It was awful.
• 17:57
  It was so bad. Good.
• 18:00
  I get it. These guys haven't played
• 18:01
  together and things like that. Everybody's played for
• 18:03
  themselves. But I've watched some AU
• 18:05
  basketball my day. I broadcast some AU basketball.
• 18:08
  I know bad basketball when I see it.
• 18:10
  That was some bad basketball for 90 seconds yesterday.
• 18:12
  But I didn't see any of the three guys.
• 18:14
  That's what I was hoping for, is at least get a glimpse of them.
• 18:16
  That wasn't the case, at least. And the little bit that I
• 18:19
  watched yesterday. So Manchilovich.
• 18:22
  What were the schools he's connected to?
• 18:24
  Louisville and Syracuse and there was 1 Kentucky, is it
• 18:27
  Kentucky? Because Kentucky's missed on
• 18:29
  everybody. And the half, yeah, you're
• 18:31
  right. They got what was the number?
• 18:33
  Mark Pope. We talked.
• 18:34
  About this we did on Monday. Yeah, that he was taking
• 18:36
  questions from the fan base because he'd been, he
• 18:39
  disappeared because he was going to Europe to actually scout and
• 18:41
  try to get guys from over there and.
• 18:44
  You can't hide it like especially hey, when you're his
• 18:46
  size and you're the head basketball.
• 18:48
  Coach Yeah, you're not getting away with that one.
• 18:50
  And it's a basketball city. He mentioned that they had, I
• 18:52
  think it was 14 of the top 20 guys in the portal on visits
• 18:56
  they got none of. Them swung and missed on every
• 18:58
  single one of. Them, so, A, they got money,
• 18:59
  yeah. B, they have opportunity.
• 19:02
  They get spots. I like their backcourt.
• 19:04
  And you throw Bonchilovich into that one.
• 19:06
  He wants to be an NBA player, absolutely.
• 19:08
  That, that's focus number one. I'm starting to think you might
• 19:11
  get that opportunity. If you get that guarantee, even
• 19:16
  a second round guarantee, but you're going to be part of the
• 19:18
  team. I mean, that's the part, not a
• 19:20
  two way deal, but you are here, you're part of this
• 19:23
  organization. You're not going to be going
• 19:24
  back and. Forth right, Could that happen?
• 19:27
  Yes, But you're going to get a guaranteed contract, a
• 19:29
  three-year deal where you are part of Organization X, then
• 19:33
  yes. Any chance late first round?
• 19:36
  I haven't heard any buzz. I hadn't either, but I don't
• 19:38
  follow it as close. I mean the NBA draft.
• 19:42
  Talk about a one day event for. Us.
• 19:43
  Yeah, it really is. Well, we'll see where it goes.
• 19:46
  But certainly me, he can fill it up, as we've seen over and over
• 19:50
  and over again. Anything on Jefferson's ankle.
• 19:52
  I mean, is, is that hindering maybe what he's going through
• 19:56
  now in this in the combine? That's a good question.
• 19:58
  I would have to think. Yeah, I hadn't seen any like
• 20:00
  articles or speculation. I read a couple of things about
• 20:03
  him and it was mostly talking about his measurables, kind of
• 20:05
  how he fits. He does feel like he has the
• 20:07
  kind of skill set. I think so too, but then he gets
• 20:10
  on the free throw line. He can't he can't make a shot.
• 20:11
  Well, that's about but that's kind of that was his MO when he
• 20:14
  was in college. Hell of a player, Hell of a
• 20:17
  player. One of those ones that cyclones
• 20:19
  will put that alongside George Nyang.
• 20:21
  You know what could have happened if Jefferson in in a
• 20:25
  meaning not a meaningless game. That's unfair.
• 20:27
  It was game one of the team you're going to beat by 40,
• 20:29
  right And for it to happen the way that it did, unbelievable.
• 20:32
  All right, are we breaking before Girardi?
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  $1000. We'll do a little Preakness on
• 20:59
  the other side. Come back, more conversation in
• 21:02
  our number 2. We'll talk college football with
• 21:05
  Bill Bender. Seems like this is going to be
• 21:07
  the number. Big 12, ACC and the Big 10 are
• 21:10
  all on board. Gerardi next.
• 21:12
  Oh, by the way, David Kaplan at 1:30, it's Miller and Condon on
• 21:15
  the Iowa Sports Radio Network. Hi, Miller and Condon.
• 21:25
  Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio Network just just before 12:30
• 21:31
  here on a Thursday and stock some Preakness.
• 21:33
  By the way, you can watch him wager on the Preakness Prairie
• 21:35
  Meadows 6 O clock for that. We're going to run our first
• 21:38
  race, then pause and then pick up with race 2 following the
• 21:42
  Preakness Stakes, race 2 about 6:30.
• 21:44
  Dick Girardi, BetOnline dot AG Dick Trenton.
• 21:47
  Ken, thank you for coming on. Appreciate it as always.
• 21:50
  This kind of has the feel to me of the best, potentially the
• 21:52
  best, worst Preakness that's ever been run.
• 21:55
  And I say that because it's pretty good betting race on one
• 21:57
  hand and the other hand I think the winner should come with an
• 22:00
  asterisk. But I think anyways, your
• 22:03
  thoughts? That's well said and I think it
• 22:06
  sums it up right. It is a terrific betting race if
• 22:09
  you can figure out who the Hell's going to win or being in
• 22:11
  the exact or the try, which I'm having trouble with.
• 22:13
  But yeah, I mean you got 3 graded stakes winners in here,
• 22:17
  one Grade 1 winner and Napoleon Solo 1 is grade one last year
• 22:21
  around 1 turn. So yeah, it's definitely a weak
• 22:24
  Preakness. The good news is they have a
• 22:25
  whole card at Laurel and a bit over a or may it'll be bet on
• 22:29
  the card and it'll be fun. It's gambling, but yeah, where's
• 22:33
  the Derby winner? Where's the Derby second horse?
• 22:36
  Where's the Derby fourth horse? I get it.
• 22:38
  I understand. I love the Preakness and it's
• 22:40
  not the same without the Derby horses it.
• 22:42
  Definitely is not and it becomes a huge conversation piece.
• 22:45
  Dick is 4 weeks. 3 weeks has been talked about.
• 22:48
  Is that enough in today's thoroughbred in And why are
• 22:51
  these horses so different? Why is this become such a big
• 22:54
  thing, Certainly over the last eight years.
• 22:57
  Three weeks is. Not going to be enough to
• 23:00
  convince the people that don't want to come in two weeks.
• 23:02
  They're going to need 4 weeks. So if it's going to be changed,
• 23:06
  and I feel pretty confident it's going to happen before 2027
• 23:10
  because they're obviously three years out of the last five.
• 23:13
  We haven't had the Derby winner. So yeah, I do think it's going
• 23:16
  to be changed. I really hope they changed it to
• 23:18
  four because I don't think 3 is going to solve the problem.
• 23:21
  Having said all that, I don't think I think it's silly that
• 23:24
  they don't run their horses back in two weeks.
• 23:26
  I mean, journalism ran all three last year.
• 23:29
  He was a great second to Sovereignty and the Derby and
• 23:32
  the Belmont, our eventual horse of the Year won the Preakness
• 23:35
  despite one of the worst rides you'll ever see in your life and
• 23:38
  was fine coming out on the other side.
• 23:40
  He still ran well the rest of the year.
• 23:42
  So it can be done, but it's kind of irrelevant at this point that
• 23:46
  it can be done is if the trainers and the owners aren't
• 23:49
  willing to do it. You kind of cater kind of cater
• 23:52
  to them at this point because you want the series to have the
• 23:56
  best horses. And frankly, NBC has got to be
• 23:59
  going crazy, right two years in a row now without the Derby
• 24:02
  winner. That's going to really affect
• 24:04
  the rating. And NBC's contract with the
• 24:06
  Preakness is up at the end of this year.
• 24:08
  And I can guarantee you they or Fox, which is also bidding for
• 24:12
  it, they're going to say, hey, wait a second.
• 24:14
  We don't want this race if it's two weeks after the Derby
• 24:17
  because we want the Derby winner.
• 24:18
  So it's going to change and I hope it's four weeks next year.
• 24:21
  I do too. I.
• 24:21
  Do too. It kind of feels like it's been
• 24:23
  left behind. Prairie Meadows Derby day, you
• 24:26
  couldn't move. It was so packed on every one of
• 24:28
  the levels. It was great to see be out
• 24:31
  there. Tomorrow I'm guessing won't be
• 24:32
  anywhere close, but maybe it'll come back in three weeks for the
• 24:35
  Belmont. But let's so let's get into the
• 24:37
  race itself. Do you like a horse with a
• 24:40
  price? Are you on the favorite?
• 24:42
  Iron, Iron Honor, who is 9:00 to 2:00, one of the shorter prices,
• 24:47
  which is really good. I like that part.
• 24:49
  I mean, the Derby winners here, he's what, 1 to 2, three to
• 24:52
  five, something like that. Normally prices are going to be
• 24:55
  there. Do you like a price or So you
• 24:57
  own one of the favorites in here, Dick?
• 24:59
  Yeah, first. I got to whine a little bit
• 25:01
  about what happened 2 weeks ago. So I I picked the non bourbon,
• 25:05
  the Japanese horse I mean. You guys watched the?
• 25:07
  Race did he not look like he was going to win the race by like 5
• 25:10
  blanks at the top of the stretch?
• 25:12
  And I'm actually looking behind me behind the horse to see where
• 25:16
  my exact is because I was so sure he was going to win.
• 25:19
  And then of course, the next thing you know he's getting
• 25:21
  passed by Ocelli and I'm going well, something had to go wrong.
• 25:24
  Well, I was sure something had gone wrong when they announced
• 25:27
  it yesterday. He had a fractured knee.
• 25:29
  That's that's why he didn't win the race.
• 25:30
  It's I'll whine about that. I was right but wrong and horse
• 25:33
  racing. It's a weird game that happens
• 25:35
  that way. I had a really strong opinion
• 25:37
  then I had no opinion in this race.
• 25:39
  I have to make a pick. I'm picking iron honor because
• 25:42
  of Pratt and and Chad Brown and his first two races were fine.
• 25:48
  I can't really explain why his last what happened in his last
• 25:51
  race. It wasn't very good.
• 25:53
  But and I would also say this. I spent 90 minutes watching
• 25:56
  replays after the draw on Tuesday morning and I thought
• 26:01
  the worst that ran the best in the Derby was a silly I thought
• 26:04
  he ran phenomenal. I can't explain why he ran so
• 26:07
  well, but he did. So if he can do that again, he's
• 26:10
  about to break his maiden in the Preakness.
• 26:12
  But am I taking 5 or 6 to one at BetOnline dot AG to have a
• 26:17
  maiden when the Preakness? No, my long shot is the hell we
• 26:21
  did. I think he's going to be a good
• 26:23
  horse. I don't know if it's going to be
• 26:25
  Saturday. Remember Senior Buscador couple
• 26:28
  years ago? Same trainer, same damn.
• 26:32
  And of course, he won the Saudi Cup, won almost 13 million.
• 26:35
  I think this horse is on a similar trajectory, but it took
• 26:38
  senior Buskador forever to get to that stage.
• 26:41
  But if it's if it's Saturday, the hell we did is like 22 to
• 26:47
  one at bet on line 16 to one on the on the line at at at Laurel.
• 26:52
  So the 7th is kind of my long shot, but I picks the 9 Iron
• 26:56
  honour what? Can I convince you?
• 26:58
  Because I'm betting #5 talking 20 to 1, obviously.
• 27:03
  Further, Ado was a runaway winner in the Bluegrass.
• 27:05
  He was third, beaten 12. He he got sick last year, looked
• 27:09
  like he was headed in the right direction.
• 27:11
  The Remsen was not. It was a bad race, but ran real
• 27:13
  well in the champagne. What about talking to 20?
• 27:16
  I don't think I'll get 20 to one, but that's where my money
• 27:19
  is going to be. Dick.
• 27:20
  How about talking the five? Yeah, I don't.
• 27:22
  Think you're going to get that either he's 9 to one at bet
• 27:24
  online. I rat alone is going to keep the
• 27:27
  worst well under 20 to one, right.
• 27:28
  I mean he's the he's the guy who always takes money.
• 27:31
  I would say this. Dave Granning is the national
• 27:33
  correspondent for racing forum. Terrific writer, good friend.
• 27:37
  He picked talking. So you're within good you're
• 27:39
  with good company. But he did text me.
• 27:41
  He says I'm picking talking, but I don't really know why it's
• 27:44
  just it's that kind of a race, right.
• 27:46
  But I think you can make a case that talking has kind of worked
• 27:50
  his way into to form. And in neither of those first
• 27:54
  two races was he remotely ready. If he can come back to his best
• 27:58
  2 year old form and improve on it, yeah, he's for sure a
• 28:01
  contender to me that I can make. AI really could make a case
• 28:04
  probably for ten of these horses and I still wouldn't feel
• 28:07
  comfortable. Like I can still miss it.
• 28:10
  It's it's a it's a great gambling race.
• 28:12
  It's an awesome gambling card. In fact, I'm in the middle of it
• 28:15
  right now fooling around with it for Saturday.
• 28:18
  But yeah, this is not an easy Preakness.
• 28:20
  There's no journalism like last year, it would just look like a
• 28:23
  stand out until the rider tried to get him beat.
• 28:26
  Incredible is the betting favorite and that's I guess the
• 28:29
  Buzzhurst, the horse that I've heard the most about this week
• 28:32
  coming off the 6th place finish at the Derby.
• 28:35
  What's to like about him? I know he had won his last time
• 28:37
  out before the Derby back at the Virginia Derby back in March.
• 28:40
  What else do you like about Incredibleton?
• 28:43
  Do you believe he will go off as the betting favorite?
• 28:46
  That's. That's the other thing I'm not
• 28:47
  sure about. I don't really have a sense of
• 28:49
  who's even going to be favored, right?
• 28:50
  Which was kind of like the Derby in that way, right?
• 28:53
  I mean, at the very end we got a tepid favorite at the Derby.
• 28:56
  But yeah, just you never with Renegade, but you just weren't
• 28:59
  never sure. Look, I think incredible is
• 29:02
  definitely contender. I like the fact that Riley Mott
• 29:06
  looked around on Monday morning. And so wait a second.
• 29:08
  The $2,000,000 race up here, we just want to Colonial Bounds.
• 29:12
  That race is going to give him a real chance.
• 29:14
  And then watching the the replay of the Derby, he was kind of
• 29:18
  right with Renegade and Golden Tempo at the 8th pole.
• 29:21
  He had made kind of the same move they did from the back.
• 29:24
  He just couldn't keep up the last the last couple 100 yards.
• 29:27
  But that this is going to be a weaker race.
• 29:29
  So yeah, I definitely think he's contender.
• 29:32
  He's 4 to one at Bet Online. By the way, I've got a great
• 29:36
  prop for you guys. You'll love it.
• 29:37
  Bet Online. I mean, all these props are
• 29:38
  awesome. How about this one about the
• 29:41
  Ortiz brothers, who finished 1-2 in the Derby, right?
• 29:44
  At the. Ortiz brothers to go 1-2 in the
• 29:47
  previous Jose's writing, Chipacho and I read.
• 29:50
  We just talked about his writing talking.
• 29:52
  They're 12 to one and 16 to 1. You get 25 to one either way,
• 29:57
  right? It's like a quinella 2IN any
• 30:00
  order you get 25 to 1, which isn't a bad deal.
• 30:02
  That's one of the cool props at at BetOnline dot AG and you get
• 30:06
  betted. At 25 to 1, you get it at 25 to
• 30:09
  1. I like that part too.
• 30:11
  BetOnline dot AG Dick Girardi. Dick, we'll talk to you in three
• 30:14
  weeks. Thanks for jumping on.
• 30:15
  Appreciate it. Enjoy the Preakness.
• 30:17
  Good luck to you, Dick Girardi. Thank you.
• 30:19
  Sounds good. Thanks guys.
• 30:20
  Good to talk to you. Little Preakness preview with
• 30:23
  Dick Girardi, who helps us out on these Triple Crown races.
• 30:27
  All right, we'll take a break. Come back, finish up our #1
• 30:31
  Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 30:35
  Hi Miller and Condon, welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 30:39
  Trent and I with you until 2 trends plays of the day, circus
• 30:42
  sports sponsors those Bill Bender, college football
• 30:45
  sportingnews.com and David Kaplan on Chicago sports ESPN
• 30:49
  1000 coming up at 1:30. I, I got to say something that's
• 30:53
  bothered me for the last 48 hours.
• 30:54
  OK. And I'm guessing it won't be
• 30:56
  popular but I don't care because they didn't get in this business
• 30:59
  to make friends. Why is the media, so I guess,
• 31:05
  petrified to speak their mind when something happens that
• 31:11
  should see the light of day when it happens instead of eight
• 31:15
  years later? So I'm referring to is Fry
• 31:17
  McCaffrey, and this is not to minimize his wife made a fool of
• 31:21
  herself. Oh, absolutely.
• 31:22
  Multiple times, but why are we? Finding out about this eight
• 31:25
  years later or we're not. Why are we talking about it when
• 31:27
  they're gone? The two guys that brought it up
• 31:29
  yesterday, one of them sat right where I'm speaking into this
• 31:32
  microphone right here. The other was 2 feet away, 10
• 31:35
  hours a week for six years. Didn't say a word.
• 31:38
  I did say a word. Now other media, one of which
• 31:41
  works for a newspaper, who buys ink by the barrel right now?
• 31:46
  It's coming out. Why wait?
• 31:48
  Why is everybody so scared? Do you honestly think that
• 31:52
  access is going to be taken away from the most powerful sports
• 31:57
  person in the state, from the number one sports station in the
• 32:01
  state? They're not going to allow him
• 32:02
  to go into Carver Hawkeye Arena BS.
• 32:05
  You know who's going to win that PR fight every time?
• 32:07
  Not the head coach of the basketball team.
• 32:09
  Not the head coach. I I'll never understand why he
• 32:13
  just button your lip until they're gone and then you want
• 32:16
  to come out and flex your muscles.
• 32:18
  Makes you look weak. Makes you.
• 32:20
  Look weak. I would have said something the
• 32:22
  very next day. Oh, I know you would have.
• 32:24
  I absolutely would have my former partner and I would have
• 32:27
  done a week on this right and absolute right or wrong.
• 32:31
  And that's what brought people to this station was that type.
• 32:33
  It has changed so much and I fear it's not changing for the
• 32:36
  best. Why are we so scared The access?
• 32:39
  Component and for people like that now to be fair Keith also
• 32:45
  is there a press conferences we don't do press conferences OK,
• 32:48
  but is he at. Press conferences?
• 32:50
  Well, not very often, right? He is still certainly more in
• 32:53
  front, but you don't think they would allow him in?
• 32:55
  I don't think potentially initially absolutely.
• 32:59
  But who's going to win the PR fight?
• 33:00
  And and that's what you absolutely nailed.
• 33:03
  There is no doubt about it, whatever medianity, right?
• 33:06
  If it comes to that. Unless the coach is winning at
• 33:10
  the highest of levels and he wasn't.
• 33:12
  And he was not. Right then, absolutely, but you
• 33:15
  sit on. This Well, it wasn't eight years
• 33:16
  because they brought it up last year.
• 33:18
  It got a little. More buzz This year it got a
• 33:20
  little bit a lot of more buzz. But why now?
• 33:23
  Why wait eight years if you were?
• 33:25
  And I have no doubt in my mind that he was he was embarrassed
• 33:29
  and he. Was disappointed.
• 33:31
  Absolutely. Had to be.
• 33:32
  And if you would have been embarrassed, I mean, wouldn't
• 33:34
  you say something, push back? Yes, but that's.
• 33:38
  Not Keith's personality either. OK, well, what?
• 33:41
  About this partner, well, yes, that's his personality,
• 33:44
  absolutely. I could definitely see that.
• 33:47
  I've heard them dance around it on our werewaves and even
• 33:52
  before, but nobody understood. But dancing around at 1:00.
• 33:54
  Thing come on, speak your mind, say your piece because it's
• 33:57
  incredibly. Disappointing.
• 33:58
  It is an awful look for the McCaffrey family.
• 34:00
  Terrible. Which is no surprise.
• 34:01
  None. But.
• 34:04
  The realm that it was to take Keith Murphy as nice of a guy in
• 34:08
  the business out a dust you are going to find there's nobody
• 34:12
  that I I couldn't even put in the same conversation.
• 34:15
  There isn't anyone. Trent and I've never met anyone
• 34:18
  like him and it's not. Fake.
• 34:19
  It's not, and I thought it was. And before he came over here,
• 34:23
  him and Andy, I said as much and, and I was and he proved he
• 34:27
  said no, I'm legit. He is a real person.
• 34:30
  We know this business. We see those people and then,
• 34:33
  you know, they're kind of a fool, right?
• 34:34
  But what? What would?
• 34:35
  I'll never understand it. Why would you just not say
• 34:39
  anything and then when they're gone?
• 34:41
  Am I wrong that? Part No, it should have brought
• 34:45
  up. It should have been brought up
• 34:46
  at the time because I guess the wool are over our eyes.
• 34:51
  It would be. One thing if it was me, but they
• 34:53
  because everybody would take Fran Mccaffrey's side, right or
• 34:57
  or somebody not of his status, probably me, You 2.
• 35:02
  But if it was Keith, it's Keith Murphy.
• 35:04
  I kind of believe Keith, in this game, right, that would have
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  been the case eight years ago, yes, because you.
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  Can't take on a coach. Because the coaches walk on
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  water until they get fired. And we didn't really like him
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  anyway. And love this new guy.
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  Right. Yeah.
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  And then repeat, recycle, and we'll go through it again.
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  And thank God for fans. Yeah.
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  Because if they weren't this way, we wouldn't have what we
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  do. But it just, it's driven me not
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  to. I wasn't going to say anything.
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  And I just. You're you're too old to do
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  this. Don't cause any waves.
• 35:29
  I'm sorry. Yeah, it drove me nuts it.
• 35:31
  Comes up again recycling and why it happened last year, right?
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  And they it didn't happen, they didn't get and now people are
• 35:39
  talking about it and it paints the Mccaffreys.
• 35:42
  It paints the. IT paints the Mccaffreys.
• 35:44
  And they should be. It paints the media with
• 35:46
  chicken. You know what's?
• 35:47
  Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
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  And that component for the beat people, it is different than
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  what we do. That is different.
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  That's true. But you know.
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  Somebody that did push back, always.
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  I'm McCaffrey was Scott Dockerman.
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  Did he lose his access? No, he did not.
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  No, he got to fight with him. Absolutely.
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  In the playing game, that there's many.
• 36:06
  Different times that that had happened and Scott Dockerman was
• 36:09
  not backing down and he is not. So maybe that also shows all of
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  us in the media. You grow a pair, you don't have
• 36:14
  to back down. No, you don't.
• 36:16
  You absolutely don't. When Kurt Ference was an
• 36:19
  absolute a hole to David Eichel, did David back down?
• 36:24
  Probably. Not he did not.
• 36:25
  He was there for the next press conference and after that
• 36:27
  Illinois game and the question about the quarterback play that
• 36:29
  was so awful he didn't back down.
• 36:32
  Need more of that. But.
• 36:33
  But here's the thing, if you do take a shot and you show up the
• 36:37
  next day or the next opportunity and you're right there in your
• 36:40
  chair and you're not scared, you're not kowtowing, that gains
• 36:43
  a little bit of respect, more than a little bit of respect.
• 36:48
  Anyways, I've said my piece, I move on.
• 36:50
  That's how I feel. I'll never change.
• 36:52
  I wish the media would I. Want to go a direction I'm sure
• 36:55
  you're happy to go to because I guess it's one of your rivals?
• 36:58
  What? The wild last.
• 37:00
  Night. What in God's name was that
• 37:03
  that? Was.
• 37:04
  Some of the worst hockey over the final two periods.
• 37:07
  Talk about playing who's prevent defense.
• 37:09
  In football is what it was. I know nothing about this.
• 37:12
  Sport, I mean I am in the first percentile, you're in the 99th
• 37:15
  percentile in terms of knowledge of the sport, but just knowing
• 37:18
  sport in general, it's a team playing not to lose and and we
• 37:21
  see this in all he wants a sport.
• 37:23
  You have 3 dumpingly and a pre stuff doesn't get a shot off.
• 37:27
  How does that not happen? Especially on the game-winning
• 37:29
  goal, the overtime goal, right? He carries the puck down the
• 37:31
  ice, decides to pass it it, it misses, the neck goes right up
• 37:34
  the ice. Earlier, like a minute before
• 37:38
  McCarron #47 for the Wilds got a wide open net and he couldn't
• 37:42
  get the shot off. It was well, for starters,
• 37:45
  Mckinnon's game tying goal. Did you see the game the the
• 37:48
  equalizer to make a three apiece where he picked the top corner
• 37:51
  right past the goalies here. What an incredible shot to do
• 37:55
  that. Look, the Wilder, a really good
• 37:57
  hockey team. They were beaten by one of the
• 38:00
  best teams I've seen in a long time.
• 38:02
  I thought the Wild had an absolute path to the Stanley
• 38:06
  Cup, but in their way, the Colorado Avalanche.
• 38:08
  Does it change your? Perception of the gap between
• 38:11
  Colorado and everybody else? Yes.
• 38:13
  Remaining, yes. Big gap, yes.
• 38:16
  Impossible. Maybe.
• 38:18
  Carolina. But you know what?
• 38:20
  Buffalo and Montreal, that's a hell of a series.
• 38:22
  I think Montreal's the better of those two teams, and it's a best
• 38:25
  of three and two of which will be played in Buffalo.
• 38:27
  So I'm guessing Montreal's the the price here.
• 38:30
  The. Best series we could get is
• 38:32
  Colorado. Carolina, yes.
• 38:35
  No, because Montreal is so special.
• 38:39
  Yeah. And getting dead.
• 38:40
  But it is. To me it's not.
• 38:41
  To anybody else in the listening audience, and not because what
• 38:44
  what gets? Better TV ratings in the US In
• 38:47
  the US. Colorado.
• 38:49
  Montreal. Colorado.
• 38:51
  Buffalo, Buffalo I could. See How about Colorado Montreal
• 38:54
  or Colorado Carolina Montreal. They think it's Carolina, too.
• 38:58
  Like. Who cares about?
• 39:00
  Raleigh No knock on the fine. City it's I'm sure it's
• 39:03
  beautiful, however right casuals again getting in those fringe
• 39:09
  fans. What are you more likely to tune
• 39:11
  into? Colorado, A newer franchise,
• 39:14
  still coming from Quebec, but still.
• 39:16
  But it's Colorado. It's Denver.
• 39:17
  They actually have snow there, you know, and Montreal.
• 39:20
  Original 6 Canadian, been around forever.
• 39:24
  Or the Carolina Hurricanes. Yeah, no.
• 39:27
  If you ask. That I wonder that's.
• 39:29
  That's a great question. You go down on Court Street
• 39:31
  right now and you pull 20 people?
• 39:35
  I said what? Were you talking about?
• 39:37
  Can you name? A Either frame it this way.
• 39:41
  What team is in Carolina? Like, what's their nickname?
• 39:44
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 39:45
  How many? Actually, average Iowan walking
• 39:48
  down the street at 12:50 on a Thursday, How many are we
• 39:51
  polling? 20 You're going to.
• 39:53
  Get 18. Never heard of any of them,
• 39:56
  right? Yeah, Carolina.
• 39:58
  Has a hockey team, A professional one?
• 40:00
  An NHL 1. That's probably what it is.
• 40:02
  Yeah. 10%, yeah, I guess it. Wouldn't be much, would be able
• 40:05
  to pull the. Hurricanes.
• 40:06
  Now our listening audience would knock it out of the park.
• 40:08
  I think so. But.
• 40:09
  That's a little different, yeah. Just a little bit different.
• 40:11
  I think so. Than your average.
• 40:12
  Joe And we're probably not even talking about pulling in just
• 40:15
  the average person, but just a sport fan.
• 40:17
  I think it's Montreal. I think that's what they would
• 40:19
  rather see, even though, of course don't get the television
• 40:22
  ratings that go along with it. Yeah, I'm.
• 40:24
  Anxious to see Kale Makar, who had to leave the game last
• 40:26
  night. He came back late, but is he
• 40:28
  hurt? Did he take a shot and is he
• 40:29
  going to be able to play? Look like a collarbone or
• 40:31
  something. Just it was much of a hit.
• 40:34
  But but anyways, they're just so good.
• 40:36
  They're so good. The wild, we're a good team, but
• 40:38
  just no answer for the juggernaut from Denver.
• 40:43
  Did you watch? Any NBA.
• 40:44
  Last night I did. I watched.
• 40:46
  More than I thought I was, I did too.
• 40:47
  I did too. Cleveland figured that out.
• 40:51
  Harden was good, Harden was good.
• 40:54
  I don't think you're going to get that Harden game in and game
• 40:56
  out, though. Can Detroit come?
• 40:57
  Back and win the series, Yeah, I still think.
• 40:59
  So I mean, Kate Cunningham can put a team on his back, but he
• 41:02
  doesn't have anybody else. He doesn't have anybody else.
• 41:04
  Did you see that stat that they popped up there?
• 41:07
  I can't remember where I saw it. It was maybe Sports Center or
• 41:09
  something. Last night, fourth quarter, they
• 41:11
  double teamed him a bunch of times and when he was doubled,
• 41:16
  they were his teammates I think were over 9 from the floor in
• 41:19
  the fourth quarter. No way.
• 41:20
  Yeah, when they brought a. Double decade, Cunningham.
• 41:23
  That seems impossible in today's NBA.
• 41:26
  A double team comes, somebody is open your team.
• 41:30
  Knocked down a shot? Your teammates go.
• 41:31
  Oh for 9? Yuck.
• 41:34
  You have a lead with 2 1/2 minutes to go. 7 point lead.
• 41:37
  It just doesn't matter. Though in the grand scheme of
• 41:39
  things. No, the Thunder running away,
• 41:42
  even against. Wembe yes.
• 41:45
  Yeah, he's so. Good, he is so good.
• 41:47
  Oh my God. And the Spurs played well
• 41:49
  against the Thunder during the regular season.
• 41:52
  Let us think the gap continues to grow.
• 41:53
  Does it? I really.
• 41:55
  Do more. Likely.
• 41:56
  To win a championship? The FS or the Thunder?
• 42:01
  Thunder. Really.
• 42:03
  Because it's hockey and hockey to me seems like there's more
• 42:06
  variance that can happen inside of it that you can steal.
• 42:10
  Taking four games from this Thunder team even without Jalen
• 42:12
  Williams, which is crazy in it's own right.
• 42:14
  They've been playing without him now for a couple of weeks and
• 42:17
  they don't miss a beat. There's so many different ways
• 42:19
  that they can beat you. They get to the free throw line,
• 42:22
  they're incredible defensively, they are deep.
• 42:24
  You look at some of the guys in deep reserve roles that aren't
• 42:27
  even playing right now and people in the NBA talk about the
• 42:30
  upside that those guys still have.
• 42:31
  This team is just an absolute machine.
• 42:34
  I think it's that big because also the sports the way they
• 42:37
  are, but we haven't had a repeat NBA champion now in over a
• 42:40
  decade. Isn't that crazy?
• 42:41
  Is that right? Yeah, I think it was 1516.
• 42:44
  Warriors remember, Sir. So yeah, decade goes back,
• 42:46
  nobody sense. That that going back LeBron to
• 42:48
  the Warriors, does that make sense to you?
• 42:50
  Because there's a lot of buzz about that personally.
• 42:52
  Selfishly, I would love to see Knicks get to the Finals this
• 42:56
  year, Yeah. Then he goes to.
• 42:58
  New York. He goes to New York.
• 42:59
  And gets them. Over the hump.
• 43:01
  But yeah, the Golden State thing's been out there for a
• 43:03
  while the way that he is. We've just talked about Steph
• 43:06
  throughout the years because they both because Steph.
• 43:09
  Would be 38 and LeBron be 41. Isn't Steph in his late 30s?
• 43:13
  Yeah, yeah. Put those.
• 43:15
  Two guys together makes sense, but how good is that team LeBron
• 43:18
  becomes the final piece of the Knicks, finally brings New York
• 43:22
  a championship for the first time in over 50 years to see
• 43:25
  that. More so Trent.
• 43:26
  I'm right there with you. I think I would Nastel just
• 43:28
  great. And watching Stephanie, that'd
• 43:29
  be fun. They're not witty anything.
• 43:31
  But does he want to? Go to the East Coast.
• 43:35
  Why not 'cause he's Holmes. In it's also New York.
• 43:37
  That's true. It's that Cleveland, and that
• 43:40
  is. The betting favorite I saw are
• 43:42
  they really and far away folks are the Cavs were If he plays
• 43:44
  for another team, I think. What about the Clippers?
• 43:46
  Were they on the list? They were down aways.
• 43:48
  Were they? Yeah.
• 43:49
  Are the Lakers even on the list? They.
• 43:51
  Well, the one that I saw, if he does not retire or play for the
• 43:55
  Lakers, I got you, OK. So that was the way that.
• 43:57
  It was phrased and also the markets, they had it like I
• 44:02
  don't know about 80% of him returning.
• 44:04
  I think it's like 98%. I can't.
• 44:05
  You're convinced? I can't see him.
• 44:07
  Walking away well. They covered the other night,
• 44:10
  got the. Cover and you had the.
• 44:12
  Over the over prop on his total points.
• 44:14
  Yeah, Help me out. Hour 2 Coming up next, Bill
• 44:17
  Bender, David Kaplan, Trends, Plays of the Day, Miller and
• 44:19
  Condon, Iowa Sports Radio Network.