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KRAKEN WEEKLY: Immediate reaction to Ron Francis stepping down, outlook with 5 games left (4/8) · Seattle Kraken Audio Network

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  Speaker 1: All right, we could have to go a little bit
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  Speaker 1: less than that may be here for the regular season,
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more about how we got here to
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  Speaker 1: this place before we get to Ewa Fitzhu and al Kiniski.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and peel back a little bit
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  Speaker 1: on the curtain from this show. We tend to pre
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  Speaker 1: record this, so a lot of the conversation that you'll
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  Speaker 1: be hearing as a course from the greater scope of
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  Speaker 1: what happened over this last week. Some talk as well
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  Speaker 1: for the future. But earlier today it was announced a
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  Speaker 1: little past four pm that Ron Francis, who had been
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  Speaker 1: a part of the Seattle Cracking before they even had
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  Speaker 1: a name way back on July seventeen, twenty nineteen, named
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  Speaker 1: as GM, he will be stepping down at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the season as a team's president of hockey Operations,
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  Speaker 1: opening a door that could lead to a massive change
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  Speaker 1: here for the future, potentially. Ian Fornesh joins us right
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  Speaker 1: now for the KRACK and Hockey Network also heard one
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  Speaker 1: to three week days ninety three to three KJARFM. Ian
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  Speaker 1: I can't think of an executive that I've worked with
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  Speaker 1: who was as classy as Ron, who was I think
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  Speaker 1: forthcoming as Ron and someone who laid down a very
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  Speaker 1: very important piece of the foundation here for this franchise.
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  Speaker 1: But this was a massive wow that we got here
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  Speaker 1: for this afternoon as he transitions on from what has
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  Speaker 1: been a season of disappointment, but yet a lot too unpack,
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  Speaker 1: maybe as far as the path of where the Kraken
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  Speaker 1: go from here. Ian your initial reaction on this, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not surprised.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. I thought, I think his contract was
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  Speaker 2: coming up this year anyway, after five years, so I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't surprised necessarily. I thought this might happen anyway.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean Ron is in a different role than he
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  Speaker 2: was when he started. He you know, he wasn't he
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  Speaker 2: was no longer really running the hockey day to day,
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  Speaker 2: I think much to you know, a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize that, but Ron was not running the teams.
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  Speaker 2: Jason Bottle's team has been Jason Boderle's team for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Ron was more of a kind of a figurehead, a scout,
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  Speaker 2: helping some of the young guys and you know, and
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  Speaker 2: so forth. So I'm not real surprised. I think this
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  Speaker 2: question is this lead to more changes in the hockey
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  Speaker 2: ops department.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Drafting, developing, analytics, these things usually are on the
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  Speaker 1: table when it comes to a time like this. But
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  Speaker 1: Crack and CEO Todd Liwiki, we're told, will be talking
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  Speaker 1: to the media tomorrow morning, nine thirty at Climate Pledge Arena.
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  Speaker 1: This also will lead to the concept of direction, whether
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  Speaker 1: you want to keep leaning in and going for it
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  Speaker 1: adding veteran pieces, or does this now pave the way
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  Speaker 1: for youth to be served here long term for the Kraken.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I wish I knew, Mikey, but I just
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  Speaker 2: think this might be the first of many steps. If
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  Speaker 2: I'm being honest, I think this might be the first
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  Speaker 2: of many changes. I think Lane Lambert is and should
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  Speaker 2: be safe, but I think outside of that then who
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  Speaker 2: knows what else could happen?
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, looking forward to hearing more of this
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  Speaker 1: for your reaction Ian tomorrow one to three as well.
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  Speaker 1: But to appreciate your time. But thank you, thanks Mike,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Benton, Everett Fitsu who is back also for this week,
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  Speaker 1: I Fitz, welcome back out Canski as well along here
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  Speaker 1: for the ride for all of us. For this next hour,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking with Jake con Also later on
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  Speaker 1: the host of Sirius XM The Point co host matter
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  Speaker 1: of Fact with Victoria Matty Ash will go over surprises
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  Speaker 1: in the East in the West direction for the Kraken
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  Speaker 1: after this season is over and much much much more.
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  Speaker 1: Jacn gonna be with us here in just a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Last four games here for the Kraken, Let's just say
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  Speaker 1: it could have gone a lot better. Six to two
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  Speaker 1: loss at Utah, brief two game homestand closing four to
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  Speaker 1: two loss against Chicago six to two loss then at
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  Speaker 1: Winnipeg Monday night, five to two loss at Minnesota last
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  Speaker 1: night to close out a brief two game road swing.
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  Speaker 1: As usual, fellas, we'll begin here with the opening thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: and I will go here first up by just laying
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  Speaker 1: this out as how Koniski says, we're just gonna call
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  Speaker 1: balls and strikes here on this one. The Krackner of
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  Speaker 1: officially on the brink of elimination nine points that with
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  Speaker 1: five games left now.
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  Speaker 4: In the regular season, how we got here.
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  Speaker 1: Was a disappointing mix, either at the same time or
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  Speaker 1: in spurts of energy, emotion, finish, or even just flat
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  Speaker 1: out resolve. It's pretty apparent. Lane Lambert got sick and
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  Speaker 1: tired of this once and for all in last night's
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  Speaker 1: news conference.
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  Speaker 4: And here's more with Lane Lambert.
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  Speaker 5: I sit here and it's another loss, and it's a
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  Speaker 5: five to two loss and another empty net goal against.
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  Speaker 5: And I sit here and I say, I thought we
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  Speaker 5: played a pretty good hockey game. And it's like, really,
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  Speaker 5: you do, another loss. But I do actually think we
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  Speaker 5: played pretty good tonight. We have a chance to them,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and we just can't get out of our
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  Speaker 5: own way. We make mistakes that are inexcusable, and it's
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  Speaker 5: you know, that disallowed goals that we're getting take momentum
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  Speaker 5: away from us, especially when we're fragile, you know. So
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  Speaker 5: I mean we want, we want our guys going to
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  Speaker 5: the net. Freddy does a good job going to the net.
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  Speaker 5: We make a good play. But regardless of that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: we can't we can't turn the puck over at the
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  Speaker 5: start of the second period. We have a protocol on
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  Speaker 5: that rush. There's no way that that guy should be
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  Speaker 5: alone in front of the net.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 5: The fourth goal, Mark Shahans standing off to the backside
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  Speaker 5: by himself. It's it's things that that have to change.
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  Speaker 5: And you know there will be a lot of a
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  Speaker 5: lot of soul searching.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you think those mistakes have happened?
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  Speaker 1: Is it just something? Do you think it's like a
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  Speaker 1: fatigue thing, like a mental fatigue thing.
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  Speaker 6: Is it, you know, like a skill thing?
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  Speaker 3: Like what do you kind of point to there? Ah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to pass on that question.
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  Speaker 1: Discipline, accountability or hallmarks of a Laine Lambert team. Strength
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  Speaker 1: is a part of a Lane Lambert team. This is
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  Speaker 1: a coach who has tried everything from benching veterans to
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  Speaker 1: take it away ice time, to blending line combinations, to
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  Speaker 1: blending power play units, to even blending defensive pairings. Ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: it comes down to the willingness and the focus to
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  Speaker 1: make the right play at the right time, to not
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  Speaker 1: overplay a two on one, to leave the inside of
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  Speaker 1: the rink uncovered, to not overthink the extra play, to
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  Speaker 1: not let slumping body language take over when things go wrong,
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  Speaker 1: and too many times a crack can have failed to
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  Speaker 1: adapt since the Olympic break in those categories and what's
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  Speaker 1: now ongoing as a five thirteen and two records since
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  Speaker 1: the Olympic break tells me there's a deeper rooted issue here.
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  Speaker 1: This is one hundred percent not a coaching issue, and
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  Speaker 1: I feel we're about a few weeks away from words
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  Speaker 1: going into action on what the next course should be
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  Speaker 1: to fix this once and for all. Do you want
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  Speaker 1: to overhaul the roster with talent upgrades? It will take work,
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  Speaker 1: but it's possible. Do you want to overhaul the roster
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  Speaker 1: to let UFAs move on and let the kids play?
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  Speaker 1: It's possible. And I think a large chunk of fans
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  Speaker 1: around here understand this move because it is for the
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  Speaker 1: greater good.
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  Speaker 4: But I think we know.
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  Speaker 1: What's starting at the credit now, staring at the Kraken
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  Speaker 1: right in the face, and it's fate and it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to take right now. But I mean if this force
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  Speaker 1: has changed, and change is good because this is a diehard,
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  Speaker 1: passionate sports town who wants their pro sports teams to
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  Speaker 1: succeed with direction, passion, and emotion. Nash, that was done
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  Speaker 1: here fellas your opening thoughts, take it away?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's frustrating, rights, it's frustrating,
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  Speaker 7: it's annoying, it sucks, it's all of that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this was a very promise start to the season.
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  Speaker 7: You can understand Lane Lambert's frustration because you know, on
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  Speaker 7: one hand, you were three points coming out of the
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  Speaker 7: break out of first place in your division. You've been
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  Speaker 7: going through some injury issues, you'd had a lot of
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  Speaker 7: man games lost, so you were able to get guys healthy,
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  Speaker 7: and then you just weren't able to recapture some of
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  Speaker 7: that magic that you had in the first half of
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  Speaker 7: the season. And you're right, I don't think it's coaching.
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  Speaker 7: We've seen the system work, you know. I you don't
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  Speaker 7: want to ever call out players, but I do think that,
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  Speaker 7: like Lane said, there's got to be some soul searching.
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  Speaker 7: This isn't anything that hasn't been said before. This team
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  Speaker 7: somehow has forgotten to do the things that don't require talent.
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  Speaker 7: They're getting beat to easy puck battles and corners, they're
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  Speaker 7: getting beat through neutral zone. They're not you know, crashing
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  Speaker 7: the net. They're not shooting. You know, Lane Lambert said
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  Speaker 7: to us the other day in our pregame conversation that
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  Speaker 7: the defensive side of the puck was winning this team
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  Speaker 7: games in the first half of the year.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's losing games.
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  Speaker 7: The Kraken peaked this year at fifth overall in goals
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  Speaker 7: against they were in the top twelve, top third of
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  Speaker 7: the NHL and goals against for the bulk of the season,
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  Speaker 7: and then now they're barely above twenty fifth and barring
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  Speaker 7: you know, five shutouts. So here, over the next five games,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, Seattle is going to finish in the bottom
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  Speaker 7: you know, ten percent of the league, bottom fifteen percent
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  Speaker 7: of the league and in goals against. So there was
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  Speaker 7: just a huge dropoff from where this team was to
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  Speaker 7: where this team is now. But for as dum and
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  Speaker 7: gloom as everything is, I mean, I'm going to go
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  Speaker 7: back to saying what I've been saying all year. If
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  Speaker 7: you look at this team's bottom basement, you know, the
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  Speaker 7: bottom of the barrel baseline goal for this team, you
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  Speaker 7: achieved it. You were in a playoff spot until games seventy. Hell,
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  Speaker 7: we're in game seventy eight and the cracking technically have
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  Speaker 7: not been eliminated going into tomorrow night against Vegas. So
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  Speaker 7: here you are, with five games left in the regular season.
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  Speaker 7: For all intents and purposes, you're still in a playoff race.
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  Speaker 7: Game sixty five, Game seventy mattered. I mean, the kra
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  Speaker 7: can you know, spent one hundred and seventeen days in
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  Speaker 7: a playoff spot this season, each of the last two years,
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  Speaker 7: or each of the last three years. Rather, the Crack
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  Speaker 7: can have spent nine days each season.
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  Speaker 3: In a playoff spot.
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  Speaker 7: So outside of year two, and outside of this year,
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  Speaker 7: year one, year three, and year four, the Crack and
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  Speaker 7: have spent a total of twenty seven combined days.
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  Speaker 3: In a playoff spot.
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  Speaker 7: So, yes, it stinks right now, but I think we're
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  Speaker 7: gonna look back here in July when we're going into
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  Speaker 7: free agency, when we're meeting again at CASEI for development
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  Speaker 7: rookie camp, and we're gonna say to ourselves, you know what, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: that ending wasn't good, but man, considering where this team was,
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  Speaker 7: it felt good to be playing meaningful games.
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  Speaker 3: It does going into to the Easter weekend.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree with everything he said.
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  Speaker 3: Fits.
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  Speaker 8: I was looking at some stats this morning, and you know,
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  Speaker 8: the Kraken finished twenty seventh overall in the league last year.
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  Speaker 8: They're currently at twenty eighth with five games remaining. So
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  Speaker 8: it remains to be seen if this team's going to
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  Speaker 8: finish higher or lower than where they were last year, which,
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  Speaker 8: if you asked me a couple of months ago at
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  Speaker 8: game fifty six, right before the break when they were,
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  Speaker 8: like you said, a few points out of that first place.
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  Speaker 8: I thought no way to ever get anywhere near that level.
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  Speaker 8: And here we are two months later and things have
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  Speaker 8: fallen off. I think that the why is the natural
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  Speaker 8: question that everybody wants to ask us, wants to ask
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  Speaker 8: the team. It's no one thing, But I'll say what
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  Speaker 8: I've said all along, which is this Lane Lambert structure
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  Speaker 8: is a difficult game to play. That doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 8: that's an excuse. It just is it's a difficult game
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  Speaker 8: to play, and you need people on this roster that
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  Speaker 8: are going to commit to it for eighty two games
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  Speaker 8: and play it night in and night out. If they don't,
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  Speaker 8: that's when you start to see games get away. That's
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  Speaker 8: where you start to see goals against start to skeoch
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  Speaker 8: up from two to three to four, to five to six.
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  Speaker 8: And this team can't compete as easily when you're getting
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  Speaker 8: scored on four or five and six as they can
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  Speaker 8: win it two, three and four. And this, this structure,
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  Speaker 8: when played right, allows allows for that. So it's difficult,
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  Speaker 8: and you know you need all twenty guys playing this system.
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  Speaker 8: You can have nights where you know, three or four
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  Speaker 8: guys take the night off and say I can't play
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  Speaker 8: this system today. I got to back off because those
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  Speaker 8: are games you're going to lose, and the bigger that
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  Speaker 8: number gets, the bigger you lose by. And I think
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  Speaker 8: in the first let's call it the three first. You know,
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  Speaker 8: almost seventy percent of the season, this team played that
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  Speaker 8: way more games than they didn't, so no surprise they
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  Speaker 8: were sitting in that third spot prior to the Olympic break.
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  Speaker 1: One of my favorite, yeah, one of my favorite sayings
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the scenario of times getting tough,
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  Speaker 1: came from now Ottawa Senator's broadcaster Jamie Baker. You used
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  Speaker 1: to play for Quebec San Jose Sharks, scored one of
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  Speaker 1: the most famous goals in Shark's history, then became a
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  Speaker 1: Sharks broadcaster for a long long time, and it was
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  Speaker 1: when times get tough, are you driven or are you motivated?
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  Speaker 1: And then I think, to me, is a focus here
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  Speaker 1: for the last five games of this regular season. But
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  Speaker 1: I think in connection to that, since the Olympic break,
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  Speaker 1: eighty one goals allowed average four goals per game, power
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  Speaker 1: play is five of fifty four. And then the penalty
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  Speaker 1: kill issues, which reared its ugly head at Winnipeg on
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  Speaker 1: Monday night. What do these last five games mean to you,
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  Speaker 1: either from the emotional standpoint or the numerical standpoint.
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  Speaker 8: I think from an emotional standpoint it means more. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: you'd like to see this team go five and zero
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  Speaker 8: for the for the last five and again until there's
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  Speaker 8: an innix to your in your name. You've got to
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  Speaker 8: play it like like like there's a chance. So you'd
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  Speaker 8: love to see that. But I think more so I'd
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  Speaker 8: like to see five games that have a lot of
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  Speaker 8: emotion behind them that you know, uh, you recommit to
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  Speaker 8: the system that Lane has put in place. You you
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  Speaker 8: have that never quit mentality. You certainly don't want to
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  Speaker 8: get pushed around these last five games. You want to
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  Speaker 8: you want to leave these least five teams that you're
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  Speaker 8: gonna play knowing that, regardless of what the standings say,
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  Speaker 8: this cracking team is not a team that's gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Be uh, that's gonna be pushed around, that's going to
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  Speaker 3: be beat up.
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  Speaker 4: Part of the changing go ahead everyett Sorry bout that
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  Speaker 4: go ahead.
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  Speaker 7: No, I was gonna say, I think Al's spot on,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm gonna go even further than that, I think
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  Speaker 7: these last five games, from an individual standpoint, each player
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  Speaker 7: needs to find what makes them tick. Because this is
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  Speaker 7: an audition for spots next year for the UFAs.
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  Speaker 3: On the team.
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  Speaker 7: This is an audition for other teams for potential trade
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  Speaker 7: chips on the roster. Let's not forget there are probably
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  Speaker 7: four or five guys on this current roster who got
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  Speaker 7: years left on their contract that other teams may be
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  Speaker 7: snooping around on, and this is an opportunity for them
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  Speaker 7: to also put on a show. But I think just
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  Speaker 7: for for athletes' sake, I mean, this is your job, right,
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  Speaker 7: you were paid a lot of money to do this job.
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  Speaker 1: And didn't Lane Lambert bring up the word professionalism earlier
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: on the road, trapalism?
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  Speaker 7: He did, right, the three of us, everybody up here
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  Speaker 7: on this press bridge, we take pride in our jobs, Okay,
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  Speaker 7: And I'm not saying I'm not saying these guys don't
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  Speaker 7: take pride in their jobs.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly they do, otherwise they won't be here.
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  Speaker 7: But they need to show that, you know what, just
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  Speaker 7: because we've fallen on hard times three twelve and two
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  Speaker 7: in their last seventeen games, Just because we've fallen on
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  Speaker 7: hard times does not mean that we're gonna roll over
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  Speaker 7: and die. And I think, yes, you want to win
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  Speaker 7: these games, but.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with al.
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  Speaker 7: If you go zero to five, but you're losing these
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  Speaker 7: games five to four to shootout. If you're losing these
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  Speaker 7: games five to four in overtime, you know what, we
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  Speaker 7: had something We went down swinging, and I think that's
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  Speaker 7: more of an individual thing because the system's there. The
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  Speaker 7: system hasn't changed, The power play structure hasn't changed, the
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  Speaker 7: defense hasn't changed, the breakouts haven't changed. Nothing has changed
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  Speaker 7: since day one of camp in September.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 7: The personnel largely hasn't changed. You brought in Bobby McMahon.
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  Speaker 7: You had a couple of guys who were out to injury.
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  Speaker 7: But for the most part, this group has been together
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  Speaker 7: since you know, before Halloween, right, This.
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  Speaker 3: Gu's been because since September.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, So I think individually this means about as much.
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  Speaker 7: A strong finish means as much for them in that
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  Speaker 7: dressing room as it does for the entire organization.
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  Speaker 1: Philip Grubauer left the Winnipeg game lower body injury, and
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: it appeared that he tweaked something off the play off.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: The pocket was mysterious here to us, but Lane Lambert
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: offering no definitive as far as a return for him.
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  Speaker 1: But now there's only five games left here for the
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  Speaker 1: regular season. He would hope that Philip Grubauer gets a
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: chance to get right back in there at least one
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: more time. For the season he's had. It has been terrific.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: It has been a turnaround type of year. And I
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: would argue in the running here for the Pete Muldoon
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Award for Team MVP just based on how well he
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: has played for this entire season. But there is one
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: more back to back, so if he can't go, that
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: could potentially mean Matt Murray time for the first time
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: since November here. But what do we make out of
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: the situation? And what did we make also at a
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: joy to cord Press into duty in Winnipeg to mop
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: up and then full game against Minnesota.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it would be nice to get Grubauer,
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: you know, back, minimally one more game here on this
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: home stand, just so we can get get some more
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: groos going into the offseason. You know, for the year
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: that he he's had. He deserves it, He's earned it.
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: I'm with you, partner. I mean, I think Mike Pete Muldoon,
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: I feel like it's got to be his to lose again.
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: You know, my my, my definition of MVP, who's the
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: most valuable to your team? And I'd argue that without
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: Philip Grubauer and the resurgence that he had this season,
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: we're not sitting here talking about playoffs even being a
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: remote possibility. So but yeah, you know, I think anytime
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: a goalie comes in cold. Joey Decord, you know, did
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: as best job as he could in in Winnipeg. And
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: I think that the goals that were scored in my
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: in Minnesota. You know, I don't know if man everywhere
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: were his fault. You know, you had the one that
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: was the up high stick.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Check deflection goal.
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: You had Marcus Johansson wide open on the back door
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: because of a blown assignment. He had another scramble out
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: in front where he was doing what he could do,
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So it's not like he
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: was beat clean on any of these goals. And again
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: we go back to the last handful of games. How
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: many of these goals?
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: And maybe Al you can answer this question better than
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I can.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: How many of these goals do you think cracking. Goaltending
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: was beat clean on. I mean, I can't remember looking
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: at you saying he should have had that one. And
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: I feel like we're talking again defensive breakdowns, you know,
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: making these mistakes you should be making. I'm not going
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: to sit here and blame goaltending for the recent struggles.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: I think it is just a systematic defensive breakdown that
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: we've been seeing time and time again from the guys
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: on the ice. But you know, Decord did did his job,
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: he did what he could do, kept the team in
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: the game, and unfortunately they couldn't pull it up for him.
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, you make the point about soft goals,
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: There just weren't many of them, you know, in recent past.
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: And you know, you and I and Mike have talked
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: a lot about the second periods over the last ten
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: games to dash thirteen goal differential, a lot of probably
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: almost half of those coming on the power play. The
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: thing about goaltanding is is that you have to have
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: trust in the players around you. You have to have
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: trust that you know, on a two one one you're
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: going to take away that pass. I got the shot
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: as the goal, You've got to take away that pass.
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: And if you let that pass go through and he's
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: got a one timer in an open net. Hey, we
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: had assignments. I didn't blow, mind, you blew yours, And
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: I think too many times to your point, it's the
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: guys in front of them that were blowing their assignments
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: that allows a guy like Marcus Johnson to stay on
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: the back door and and get a feed cross ice
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: into an open net. So too many times that's been
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: happening since the Olympic break, and that's why the goals
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: against are up, that's why the save percentages are down,
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: and that's why obviously there have been a lot more
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: losses than this team would like to see. So yeah,
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: I point to a lot of that.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Before we get to break, we're going to also bring
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: up the issue here at the penalty kill, and it's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: been ongoing for virtually the entire year.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: But we've learned a.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Course in the NHL as a baseline, especially in crunch
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: time and definitely playoff time. If you've got good goaltending,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you're on the right path. If you have great penalty killing,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: you're on the right path as well. The goaltending has
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: been there, the penalty kill has not been way off
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the tracks. This season, near the bottom of the NHL
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: for the entire year, and going back now for this
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: last stretch to the Olympic, break the crack and allowing
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: thirteen power play goals in forty eight opportunities as well.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: So I think part of this direction for this offseason
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: when you want to consider the shaping of the roster
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: if they go that route, is not just from a
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: top six standpoint, not just maybe a faceoff standpoint, but
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: also potentially what can you do to find the right
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: combinations here for the penalty kill.
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's penalty kills an interesting thing. You need to
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: be smart number one, because you have to understand a
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: what your kill system is, but also you have to
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: understand the other teams power play and how to how
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: to shut it down, how to break it, what to
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: be aware of. So you've got to be smart. You
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: have to be a little crazy as well, because you
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: have to throw yourself in front of slap shots. You
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: have to you have to be willing to block shots.
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: You've got to be a little crazy.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: And the third thing is you've got to be I
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: think Fits used the word determined. You've got to be
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: determined to kill off this two minutes and do whatever
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: it takes to do it. And you know, when you
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: do get control of the puck in your own end,
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: uh know where their opening is. To get the puck
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: down the ice, make a good change recognizing the second period,
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: and penalty killing's a little harder because of that long
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: change in the first period, So you've got to be
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: sure it gets all the way down. It can't just
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: get to their blue line because they're going to catch
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: you on a change. All these things go into good
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: penalty killers, and honestly, it doesn't. It doesn't get all
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: the limelight, doesn't get all the highlights, doesn't get all
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: the glory. But you got eight guys that can kill
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: penalties off. You know it fits you. And I talk
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: about this a lot. What would you rather have a
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: good penalty killer or a good power play? And lots
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: of times the answer is a penalty kill.
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would take I would take a good I
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: take a top five PK and a bottom five power
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: play over the reverse any day of the week, because
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: I feel like, especially in playoff time, when you're only
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: getting two max three power plays a game. In a
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: playoff game, you kill off three of those pks and
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: and you know, especially if you're on the road, I mean,
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: you're you're shutting that entire crowd down. And I think
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: the momentum change of being able to have four guys
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: shut down five mentally, that is a huge piece to
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: overcome subconsciously or not for the other team.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: So but now I'm with you man.
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: Like the PK. I mean you mentioned Mike the numbers.
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: This team has given up seven to nine power They've
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: given up nine power play goals in their last seven games.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: I mean that is just again, like everything else, it's inexcusable.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: It's it's befunneling, it's baffling, it's mind bottling.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: It's when everything that Lane Lambert has said.
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: And again, the PK this year was one of the
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: stronger areas until it was it. You know, the power
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: play was strong all year longer. The PK earlier than
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: you like, took that dip off the table. They've been
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: thirty first in the NHL for about six weeks straight
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: now in the PK, and that number just kept on falling.
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: But you know, I think you're right, it's a termination.
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: I think it's also just don't simplify, don't do too
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: much when you get the puck, dun, dumb and change right.
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: You know, I don't need short handed goals. I don't
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: need a power kill. I don't need that. I need
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: you to kill off the two minutes and get back
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: to work.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Five on five. That's what I need.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: So don't you know, you get the puck, whip it
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: down the ice, lived to five another day.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Here's the impact of this, just for example, in the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: recent stretch, Winnipeg three of three and the power play
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: on Monday night, crack And lost that game six to two.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: The cracking kept Winnipeg off the board five on five
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: until period three when Brad Lambert scored against you the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: manmock went three of six. Crack And lost that game
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: against Buffalo, cracking allowing a power play goal on three chances.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Buffalo came right back won that game as well. We
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: go back here to the Nashville game at Nashville to
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: begin that six game road trip. Nashville went one of
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: three on the power play, and what could have been
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a very very close game, crack And fell in that contest,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and so forth and so on.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: So it certainly makes a big impact, all right.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Once again, a lot to get to here, as Ron
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Francis stepping down from the Crack and end of the season,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: plus more conversation from the last week as well, potentially
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: for the future directions of Krack and want to Go,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna cover more of this with ja Con
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: right around the corner. Pull questions up right now a
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Crack and audio net, go and vote. We'll cover more
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: of this in a bit as far as what young
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: player you want to see with the hot hand by
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the end of the regular season. Jay CON's next right
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: here on Cracking Weekly on ninety three to three KJERFM.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Firebirds are back into a playoffs spot. The X is
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: officially at their name, and it looks like it's going
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to be an opener for them in round number one.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: The only question is who will they face again. Mike
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Benton with you back here on Cracking Weekly along with
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Everett and now they're going to take a bit of
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: a break. Jake Con joining us right around the corner.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: The Firebirds, though locked in right now, it appears no
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: higher than third place, although beyond that plenty of doubt.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: San Jose comes in today one point back of them.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Coachella Valley at thirty nine twenty two and five eighty
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: three points on the season. Up next today they take
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: on the Hendersons Silver Knights. Six games left on their
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: side and at the playoffs word to begin today, they
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: would open the first round against the Bakersfield Condors. So
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: a lot to look forward to. Logan Morrison right now
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: leads them fifty seven points in sixty four games. Jagger
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Furkus two points back, fifty five points in sixty one games.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Tyson Jugnat the Monks the league leaders in defenseman for scoring. Oh,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: by the way, he's also a rookie forty three points
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: in sixty six games as well. Nick A Koco, Victor
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Ossman splitting plenty of time in Nasel. Before we get
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: to Jay con Fellas, give me one guy you're looking
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: forward to watching here for the Calder Cup playoff run.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, I gotta go jug Nof.
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: I think that. You know, he's a guy that we
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: got to see in camp last year a little bit.
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: I was pretty excited about the way he played. I'm
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: looking forward to seeing him next year in camp and
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: some preseason games as well. But the way he's played
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: for the Firebirds this year, getting into the playoffs, he's
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: absolutely somebody I'd won on my blue line.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, give me, gimme Fercus and Morrison.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: I think those two guys, you know, you're looking at
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: potentially finding more offense, and those guys are doing it
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: down there in CV. They're you know, higher draft picks
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: in these first few years for Seattle, and you want
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: to see what you got from from your prospect pool.
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: So well they have, they have a good playoff and
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: then I think they're coming in here camp trying to
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: battle for a spot.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: So I'm looking at.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: Those two to see how they handle the high pressure
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: situation of pro pro playoffs.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Logan Morrison right now in the top twenty four league
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: scoring again fifty seven points in sixty four games. I'm
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: gonna go Tyson Jugnath. Defensemen take longer to develop a marinate,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: but my goodness for what he did in Portland. It
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: showed playing head and shoulders above the rest. He knows
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: how to play the puck with confidence, he knows how
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to defend in the modern game. He turned plenty of
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: heads in preseason play and showing that he has adapted
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: very very quickly here to the pro game at the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: American Hockey League level as of right now. Take notes,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Tyson Jugnath is seventh in AHL scoring among defensemen, leader
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: among all rookies on the blue line, by the way,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: forty three points in sixty six games. I think he's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: gonna be a big piece of future. I'm looking forward
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: to watching him all right. Moving on, joining us now
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: on Cracking Weekly, the world famous Jake con He is
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the co host on The Points, heard Monday through Friday
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: from ten am Pacific to noon Pacific on Sirius XM
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: NHL Network Radio. He and Victoria Maddie Ash do a
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: great job on the air every day. First time, though,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I believe Jake joins our airwaves now on the Beacon
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Plumbing Hotline for this Hello to you, thank you for
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: jumping on, and I first want to begin with a
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: nod to your late colleague and a dear friend of
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: many of us, Jim Boomer Gordon. You two taken over
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: for a guy who was near and dear to a
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: lot of us, and Boomer Gordon passing away tragically just
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: a while back here in this regular season, A lot
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: of us had a chance here to share what Boomer
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: meant to us. But he had this share for quite
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a while. How much did Boomer influence many of you,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: whether it would be professionally or personally.
• 29:56
  Speaker 9: I mean, it's hard to put into words what he
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: meant to me, both as a co worker, as a
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: co host for so many years over a decade doing
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: shows with him, but also just as a friend. I
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: think that's really where I've missed him the most is
• 30:08
  Speaker 9: those texts about other sports.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: Boomer was such an all sports guy.
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: Obviously, he loved hockey, was great at covering the game
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: of hockey, but he would text me about anything any
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: sport you could name. Golf was probably our favorite. That
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: was a big one for us on the weekend or
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: in any big golf tournament. Obviously with the Masters coming up,
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: this would be a big time for us doing our
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: Master's picks. And we always had his Jim Nance bit
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: to start the show. So so many things I'm going
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: to miss about the guy. And he really helped me
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: grow as a broadcaster. He gave me the chance, you know,
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: I started it out with just a small role on
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: the show, and then it grew and grew and really
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: being our show, and he treated it as such, and
• 30:41
  Speaker 9: he really made me feel like it was our.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: Show over the years.
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: So man, I really miss him every day, you know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: a little things remind me of him. We had a
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: celebration for life for him about a week and a
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: half ago. Really nice to meet some of his family,
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: beautiful people, meeting some of his old college buddies and
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: things like that as well. So there's there's certainly a
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: hole to station Mike, and you know, hole in all
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: of our hearts missing Boom. It's been tough to roll on,
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: but you know, credit to everybody at the station, particularly
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: Victoria stepping in and not an easy spot. And I've
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: really enjoyed doing the show with her. And look, we're
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: doing our best to entertain and kind of keep the
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: ball moving forward. And Boomer would want us to keep
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: watching hockey, stop talking about him, and kind of move on.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: That's that's how Boom was.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Boomer, we're looking up at you. We miss you,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: love you.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: And one more question for you, eighteen holes for one
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: round at Augusta. What do you have gone with Tiger
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Phil or someone else?
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: Oh, I think we're going Tiger. I think he's going
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: Tiger here. Boom was always a huge Tiger guy. I'm
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: a big Tiger guy as well. Unfortunate, what's sort of
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: happened really the weeks, and I was looking forward to
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: seeing him tee it up. I really thought he was
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: going to. I think if if this didn't happen, he
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: we probably would be watching him at least tee it
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: up and obviously not going to contend at this point.
• 31:49
  Speaker 9: So yeah, eighteen holes at Augusta. I think you gotta go, Tiger.
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: What a golf course.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: I dream one day of being able to play it.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Mike, I don't know how I'm going to get myself in.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: We'll see. We'll see.
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: Maybe me and you could play it together one time.
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: We'll figure that out later.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: By hook or by crook, it's going down, and I'm
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: going to send a text here to the wife saying
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: something emergency. Why it's just popped up here, and we'll
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: take care of the rest. We kinda have to go
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: on the regular season. Tampa Bay and Buffalo are duking
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: it out in the Atlantic. Carolina's basically have the metro
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: all locked up. The Penguins are there. Then in the Central,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: then Dallas and Minnesota, who are a duking this out
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: here for seeds two and three, And then as Conor
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: mc david said, ye, Pillow fights in the Pacific Division
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: at this point, what is your biggest surprise.
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: Well, I would say biggest surprise probably of the season
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: would be Buffalo and not only making the playoffs, but
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: where they are pushing Tampa for the top spot in
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: the Atlantic Division. If you would have told me the
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: Sabers would make the playoffs, I'd probably say, no, not happening.
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: I've tried, you know, I've gone down that road many
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: times and it never works out. But if you would
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: have told me they would win the Atlantic Division, which
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: they haven't yet, but they're right there fighting tooth and
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: nail down the stretch Withampa. Montreal is in that conversation
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: as well, I would probably call you crazy. So it's
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: been fun to watch this come together. Depending on home
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: ice advantage, Mike, I might have a little trip planned
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: to Buffalo. Buffalo's you know, very quick drive from where
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: I am to go to a game and obviously seeing
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: playoff hockey there for the first time in a long time,
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: that fan base is going to be rabid for some
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: playoff hockey.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: So I'm hoping to catch a game in Buffalo.
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: And you know, I was breaking it down four games
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: left for Montreal, Buffalo and Tampa and the Atlantic Division
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: all tied with points. Now Montreal has less regulation wins,
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: the schedule still does favor Tampa just slightly. So I
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: still think they've got the inside track to that one seed,
• 33:36
  Speaker 9: but a couple of regulation losses here lately for the
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: lightning of open the door for Buffalo and heck, maybe
• 33:41
  Speaker 9: even Montreal to jump up there.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you saw the vibe around Key
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Banks Center before last night's game against Tampa Bay. They
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: had a wagon that had a Buffalo logo outside. They
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: had visual signers that you can take for instagram saying
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: we're back. They had I mean something even installed in
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: your live size figure Brandon Hagel that fans could walk
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: up and punch. And this is all before the game,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: so needless just say the vibes are certainly back in Buffalo.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Are you buying ors selling the Sabers as the Eastern
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Conference champion?
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: I think I'm selling overall because if I'm picking an
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: Eastern Conference champion, I can only pick one here. I
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: can't pick three or four and kind of go that way.
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: So I got to narrow it down to see them
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: making the Cup final.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: I just it's difficult.
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: There's a lot of players on that roster that haven't
• 34:29
  Speaker 9: played playoff hockey before. I do think it's a bit
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: of a different animal, and when I'm looking at the
• 34:33
  Speaker 9: teams they're gonna have to go through, Tampa's got a
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: lot of veterans on that roster.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: I know they've.
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: Struggled in the playoffs recently, but I think it'll be
• 34:40
  Speaker 9: a little bit different this year. With Florida out of
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: the equation, Tampapa kind of feels like the team to
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: beat on that side, and Montreal they just have playoff magic.
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: Whether they're a good team or not a good team,
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: they feel like they get more out of their roster,
• 34:51
  Speaker 9: and I would say this year they are actually a
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: really good team in Montreal. They're getting the goaltending coffields
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: having an excellent season, only a matter of time before
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: he gets that fiftieth goal. So I think it's gonna
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: be tough for Buffalo if they do make it through there,
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: You're probably looking at maybe a Carolina in the conference final.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Certainly wouldn't rule it out, Mike. I think the.
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: East is very wide open compared to the Western Conference.
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: I think any of these teams could go on a
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: run and Buffalo could be that team, but I'm probably
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: gonna go somewhere else with an Eastern Conference pick.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you discuss this here a million times across
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: multiple airways, but just for you know, for the sake
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: of getting this in the Seattle.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Airspace, we have to talk about the Leafs. The E
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: is next here to their name.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Questions abound, and this also begins with their roster Ashtin, Matthews,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Morgan Riley, William Nielander.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: At this point, would.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: You be surprised if all move on or more if
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: all stay by this next year opening night?
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: I would be more surprised if all of them moved on.
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: I really would, just just based on the verbiage that
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: they're using. Keith Pelly obviously they make the GM change
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: last week and he comes out and speaks president, you know,
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: president of the team comes out and speaks and talks
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: about how they want to do more of a retool,
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: not a rebuild. So I would think any general manager
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: coming in and that search is still ongoing, I think
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: that's going to be the MO. It's okay, how do
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: we get this team back to being a playoff team
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: and a contender with Austin Matthews and with William Neelander
• 36:13
  Speaker 9: now Morgan Riley might be a different conversation. I could
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: see if they're able to move on from him, maybe
• 36:19
  Speaker 9: something there. But I think they want to continue to
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: build this team at least for the next couple of
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: years around Nelander and Matthews, because these two players are
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: still very much in their prime. Like they're still excellent
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: hockey players. There's still players capable of ink Neelander's case
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: ninety plus points. You know, Matthews in a healthy season
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: could go for fifty heck even sixty, and he's going
• 36:36
  Speaker 9: to have to bounce back off some sort of injury.
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: So I think that's how the Leaves view it. We
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: got these guys in their prime. Let's see if we
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: can kind of thread the needle retool this roster. If
• 36:44
  Speaker 9: it doesn't work, then yeah, there's probably gonna be some
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: lean years and they might have to end up entertaining
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: a rebuild a couple of years down the road.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Ja con joining us here from the point on Sirius
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Sex at Menachel Network Radio here as a part of
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Tonight on Crack and Weekly about to the local matters
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: here at this point, Jake the Kraken, It looks so
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: good about three weeks ago, four weeks ago, coming out
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: of the Olympic break, and now they're teetering on the
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: brink of elimination. So at this point when you talk
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: about the fork in the road with the young players
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: coming up and already breaking through on this roster, using
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: just Berkeley Catton as an example, plus also the veterans
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: ranging from those who could be extended. Jordan Everly's already
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: one of them. Reportedly they were in the mix for
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: artimy Paneren right before the Olympic break. What direction for
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: them in this next offseason makes the most sense to you.
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: Look, it's unfortunate that it's gotten here for Seattle, especially
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: because I was kind of thinking, Okay, are we going
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: to get a possible Seattle Colorado rematch in the first
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: round from a few years ago, and Colorado actually clinched
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: up the Central Division they have won the Central since
• 37:50
  Speaker 9: that year, and Seattle beat them in the first round.
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: I remember being so excited for the fans in Seattle
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: that they got to see playoff hockey for the first time,
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: because Mike, there's nothing like playoff hockey in the National
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: Hockey League and you get that first taste of it,
• 38:02
  Speaker 9: you become a little bit addicted. You're like, oh man,
• 38:04
  Speaker 9: this is just something else. The building's rocking. So it's unfortunate.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: It was ridiculous back in twenty three. Ridiculous.
• 38:10
  Speaker 9: Oh I bet and Utah is most likely going to
• 38:13
  Speaker 9: get to experience that this year as well. So I'm
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: happy for the fans in Utah and I've kind of
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: been rooting for that this year. I want everybody to
• 38:18
  Speaker 9: kind of get that taste of it. So I look,
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: that's the goal, right, how do we get back there?
• 38:23
  Speaker 9: And I just think, unfortunately for the crack And they've
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: kind of find themselves in that mushy middle where they
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: haven't really been bad enough any year to draft really
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: high to get that superstar player. They're always competitive but
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: yet missing the playoffs, so you got to find a
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: way to get that superstar talent. You reference them being
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: in on our Tevy panera and that doesn't surprise me
• 38:40
  Speaker 9: at all because I think when you see a player
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: like that become available, you go, Okay, let's let's do
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: what we can to bring him in. Unfortunately that didn't
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: work out. He goes to La So I think that
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: would be the top of my list. I know it's
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: not easy. It's easy for me to sit here and say, yeah,
• 38:52
  Speaker 9: go get a superstar, right, it's easy for any of
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: us to say that. Another thing to actually go do it.
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: I don't know how you do it, but I think
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: that's what you're trying to pull off. Or you're trying
• 39:00
  Speaker 9: to get a star player coming to Seattle in any fashion,
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: whether that's via trade or via free agency.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Crazy how free agency has certainly of all because Nick
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Smaltz was for a long time top of the list,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: and he all of a sudden then gets locked up,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: gets extended, and we're, you know, we're seeing more and
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: more of this trending because the salary cap is going
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: up here in the NHL, so not many big names
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: are available this offseason. It is a paper thin free
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: agent class as far as proven talent. Bobby McMahon the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: crack and one would love to get him locked up
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: presumably here. But we'll see where this goes, because he
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: is still a UFA at this point, despite the torching
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: start that he has had since beginning his time here
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: in Seattle. But I pose this question to one of
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: your colleagues. A few weeks ago, and I'll just you know,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: toss this here to you. Trades versus free agency in
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: this day and age in the NHL for the summer,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: is free agency dead?
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: I think it's it's I don't know if it's fully dead,
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: but it's dying. It's a fairy, faint heartbeat for free
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: agency at this point. And look, this might change as
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: the landscape changes over the next few years, but I
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: think the period you put it perfectly right there, with
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: the salary cap going up and players you know, last
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: chance to maybe get that eight year deal, that eighth year,
• 40:07
  Speaker 9: I think a lot of guys are comfortable where they're at.
• 40:10
  Speaker 9: They get paid, they take the money before they even
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: hit free agency, and that's changed over the last couple
• 40:15
  Speaker 9: of years. So I think if you're a team like
• 40:17
  Speaker 9: Seattle and a handful of other teams that are thinking,
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: I want to improve my team in free agency, you're
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: probably looking at going out there and getting middle tier players,
• 40:24
  Speaker 9: and those aren't really needle movers.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Those aren't really.
• 40:26
  Speaker 9: Going to change things too much for you, right, So
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: you're not going to go out there and get that
• 40:30
  Speaker 9: superstar player in free agency, which leads to probably having
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: to make some sort of trade. Again, those aren't easy.
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: You got to find a dance partner. You've got to
• 40:37
  Speaker 9: be able to make it work for both sides. But
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: I'd be working the phones. I'd be trying to find
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: out we just talked about Austin Matthews, right. I don't
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: think the Leafs are going to deal him in the offseason.
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: But that's the type of guy, you know. If I'm
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: a Seattle I'd be saying, Hey, what will it take
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: to get him here? What do you guys need? Picks, prospects,
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: you know, whatever it might be. Again, it might not
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: be him in particular, but a player like that, if
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: that is, if there's any chance of that, that's the
• 41:00
  Speaker 9: type of trade I'd be looking to make if I
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: was Seattle.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Speaking of those young players, let's just go through them
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: right now. I mean, Berkeley Catton just turned twenty years
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: of age and many love what he's doing despite the
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: goal scoring finish not being there yet for him. Jacobrien
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: ohl Guy is tearing it up the season. Shane Wright
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: is in his early twenties, Matty Beaniers is still in
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: his early twenties as well. Out of that group, for
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: anybody else, who is the most compelling young guy to
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: you for this next season.
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: I think Catton, just because we haven't seen as much
• 41:31
  Speaker 9: of him yet, and I see the potential because I'm
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: looking for someone to be a true needle mover here
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: and I'm not saying those other guys can't be, but
• 41:37
  Speaker 9: I think he's the one that maybe intrigues me to
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: the most here going long term. And I have to
• 41:42
  Speaker 9: remind myself how young Matti Beniers is still. I feel
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: like he's now been around for a while and I
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: treat him as a more of a mid twenties, late
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: twenties guy, but he's not. He's still in his early twenties.
• 41:52
  Speaker 9: He's still kind of learning the NHL game, and I
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: think at times I've been underwhelmed by the.
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: Production, not by the play. The eye test.
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: When I watch Beniers, I like what I see, but
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: you look at the points and you go, Okay, it's
• 42:02
  Speaker 9: a little underwhelming for a guy drafted that high. You
• 42:04
  Speaker 9: know you want that ninety plus point guy. Maybe he
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: can become that at some point, and you hope Shane
• 42:09
  Speaker 9: Wright can be a legitimate goal scorer as well. So again,
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: it kind of goes back to what I said at
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: the start. You need someone to develop into a needle
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: mover here, like a true again ninety plus point guy,
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: forty plus goal scorer. That's what they need to do.
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: Maybe it's just patients with some of these young guys.
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: You know, watch Benears develop, watch Shane Wright developed. Maybe
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: Katten turns into something that's the hope in Seattle. So
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: I'm bullish on what Catton could become. And I'm gonna
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: still stay patient with Maddy Biniers. I got to cut
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: the guy some slack. He's still very very young.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: On the verge of twenty goal third time four seasons.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: When you consider the the kind of game that he
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: loves to play, the two hundred foot style defensively, he
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: is on the cusp once again of hitting that benchmark.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Speaking of ninety point guys, Koutrov, McDavid McKinnon, Celebrini or
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the field who does the heart trophy go.
• 42:56
  Speaker 9: To oh man, this is this. I flip flop on
• 42:59
  Speaker 9: this most daily, Mike. This is a great race between
• 43:02
  Speaker 9: these guys. I'll watch the Sharks that I'll go, I'll
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: give it to Celebrini. Then I watch the Lightning and
• 43:06
  Speaker 9: I go, Okay, maybe Kutrov should get it. And then
• 43:09
  Speaker 9: I see the even strength goal scorer or the even
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: strength points for Nathan McKinnon are very impressive, and I think,
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: you know, maybe because McKinnon just won it a couple
• 43:18
  Speaker 9: of years ago, maybe voters will pivot somewhere else. I know,
• 43:21
  Speaker 9: Kutrov doesn't seem to get the attention that he probably deserves.
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: And everybody loves Macklin Celebrini. I mean, it's just a
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: love and around the league, and why not.
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: The kid is special.
• 43:30
  Speaker 9: He's so exciting to watch, especially in Canada for those
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: watching the Olympics, and you had a young kid, a
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: teenager like that, making an impact at the Olympics. So
• 43:38
  Speaker 9: if the Sharks get into the playoffs, Mike, I think
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: my vote might be going to Macklin Celebrini, and it
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: might be a little biased. I just like watching the guy,
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: but ultimately Nikita Kutrov what he means to that Tampa
• 43:48
  Speaker 9: Bay Lightning team. If San Jose doesn't make it, I'm
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: giving the vote to kuch. I think he's just been
• 43:52
  Speaker 9: unbelievable this year, and I think he's been disrespected in
• 43:54
  Speaker 9: the voting too many times. It's kind of it's time
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: to right some of those wrongs this.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Year, Jake.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: We can't let you go without the us in the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: craziness that we have seen over the last week with
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: coaching changes, and I kind of have joked to mean,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I think we're on the verge of seeing someone replaced
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: mid round during the Stanley Cup playoffs. This actually happened
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: globally elsewhere back in the CAHL.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: It actually happened two years ago.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: But the Islanders are right now three points out of
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the mix, bringing on Pete de Boor for Patrick Wahb.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: The Vegas Golden Knights brought in John Tortorella replacing Bruce Cassidy,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: and what do you know, They've won four in a
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: row and are now on the verge of a division
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: title in the Pacific Division. Would this surprise you to
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: see this happen again down the road or where you
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: just call this maybe for this season a one off?
• 44:40
  Speaker 9: I think, well, mate, look this is a bit of
• 44:42
  Speaker 9: a copycat of league, so maybe maybe it is something
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: if it works for these teams.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: And we're gonna wait and see.
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: The Islanders haven't even played a game with Peter de
• 44:49
  Speaker 9: Boor yet, and they've got four games left and they're
• 44:51
  Speaker 9: kind of watching everybody past them. I think the Islanders
• 44:54
  Speaker 9: are in trouble for this season. I think they're gonna
• 44:55
  Speaker 9: miss the playoffs. I think this is more for next
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: year and beyond with Matt Schaffer, and they want to
• 45:00
  Speaker 9: to get in front of Peter de boor block other
• 45:02
  Speaker 9: teams from going to get him.
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: But if this.
• 45:03
  Speaker 9: Works for Vegas, and you just said it, there all
• 45:06
  Speaker 9: of a sudden looking like they might win the Pacific Division.
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: Here they timed it out well. They bring in towards.
• 45:10
  Speaker 9: They had two against the Canucks, one against the Calgary Flames.
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: They were very impressive in Edmonton though against the Oilers,
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: I thought that was the game where they.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: Really wowed me.
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: If that works out for them, they go on any
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: sort of playoff run, you might see other teams go,
• 45:22
  Speaker 9: you know what, we can fire a coach with three
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: weeks left in the season, bring in a guy like Tortorella,
• 45:28
  Speaker 9: kick the team in the pants, and make it sort
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: of a timing type situation. We always talk about the
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: coach bump, right, and normally we see it in January
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: or something like that, and then it wears off. Maybe
• 45:37
  Speaker 9: there's something to be said for the coach bump at
• 45:39
  Speaker 9: this time of the year and you use it to
• 45:41
  Speaker 9: propel yourself into the playoffs. It's interesting strategy, not one
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: I thought we would see this year.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Though, Jake, good stuff man.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you and for those around here just getting still
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: in tomb. Social media, whis best place to find you?
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Where is it at?
• 45:54
  Speaker 9: Jhon four on x formerly known as Twitter, So you
• 45:58
  Speaker 9: can reach me there, you can ask me a question,
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: things like that.
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: Maybe maybe have.
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: Some Master's picks up there as well throughout the course
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: of the week. So thanks for having me on Mike.
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: Really great chat with you.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going Rory by the way, please lock it in. Jake,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate you all.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Right, Grace Tove, Jake, thank you very much.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Jaken joining us here on Crack and Weekly, Everett myself,
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  Speaker 1: Al Kaniski. We will be right back after this with
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  Speaker 1: final thoughts, poll question, update, mail bag, three stars and
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  Speaker 1: you right here on Cracking Weekly on ninety three to
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  Speaker 1: three k JERFM. Youth could be a big piece of
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  Speaker 1: this picture very very soon on the Crack and side directions.
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  Speaker 1: What we're looking forward to as far as uh, what's
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  Speaker 1: going to be coming about here for this and this
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  Speaker 1: next summer and that leads us here to our Crack
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  Speaker 1: and weekly poll question. With five games left in the
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  Speaker 1: regular season, which young player do you want to see
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  Speaker 1: a scoring streak from most to end the regular season?
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  Speaker 1: As of right now, drum roll please, forty percent of
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  Speaker 1: you say either Matty Beaneer's or Berkeley Catton. It is
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  Speaker 1: a tie right now, but it is fluctuating back and
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  Speaker 1: forth as of right now, a forty percent draw between
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  Speaker 1: Matty Beanear's and Berkeley Catton. That pole question still ongoing
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  Speaker 1: right now at Twitter and x at Kraken Audio Net.
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  Speaker 1: Always a sudden to look forward to, But as Everetten
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  Speaker 1: now said, you keep playing as hard as you can
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  Speaker 1: until that he is right by your name. The situation's dire,
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  Speaker 1: but there is still opportunity here as the Kraken get
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  Speaker 1: back at home for one last home stand for the
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  Speaker 1: regular season Tomorrow night against Tomorrow night against Vegas, then
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  Speaker 1: this Saturday coming up against Calgary Rare afternoon start time
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  Speaker 1: by the way at four o'clock, and then Monday regular
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  Speaker 1: season home finale against Los Angeles Kings before the Crack
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  Speaker 1: can end this regular season on the road in Vegas
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  Speaker 1: and Colorado. Everetten now back with us right now, Fellows,
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  Speaker 1: what about you Baneer's Catton, Fisker, Mulgard or the field
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  Speaker 1: for the young player that you want to see a
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  Speaker 1: streak from scoring wise to end the regular season, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would go.
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  Speaker 8: I'd love to see a goal or two from Visker,
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  Speaker 8: Molgard and Malanson. I think that you know they've played
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  Speaker 8: well enough to certainly get those.
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  Speaker 3: If you're talking about goals scoring streaks or points also,
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  Speaker 3: you know, yeah, points streaks.
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  Speaker 8: I'd love to see Maddy Beniers end the season on one.
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  Speaker 8: I'll talk about him a little bit in my three Keys,
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  Speaker 8: but I think Berkeley Catton, you know Berkeley Catton, same thing.
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  Speaker 8: His game has developed over the course of the year.
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  Speaker 8: He's he's looked good at certain points, He's looked junior
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  Speaker 8: hockey still at certain points, but I think that junior
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  Speaker 8: hockey piece is slowly coming out of him and his
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  Speaker 8: game is adapting to the NHL level. So I'd love
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  Speaker 8: to see him end the season with a handful of
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  Speaker 8: points to wrap it up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go Maddi Beniers. I mean, I'm looking
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  Speaker 3: at two goals, four assists his last twelve games. I'd
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  Speaker 3: like to.
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  Speaker 7: See him pick up a little bit more of the
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  Speaker 7: offense going into the summer. I mean, like I mentioned earlier,
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  Speaker 7: this is now about giving yourselves a good taste in
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  Speaker 7: your mouth going into the summertime and going into the offseason,
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  Speaker 7: giving you something to build on. I think these last
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  Speaker 7: five games are just as important individually as they are collectively.
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  Speaker 7: And Matty Beaneers this year, you know, no one can
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  Speaker 7: argue with the defensive turnaround.
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  Speaker 3: That we've seen in his game.
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  Speaker 7: I mean Matty Beaneers right now this season at a
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  Speaker 7: you know, minus eight, but he or yeah, minus eight
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  Speaker 7: this year, forty seven points, if you can get to fifty,
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  Speaker 7: that'd be great. Twenty goals. He's one shy of that.
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  Speaker 7: But I think that I'd love to see Maddy Beaneers
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  Speaker 7: showing the flashes of that seventy point player. We all
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  Speaker 7: think he should be, right, you know, my whole thing
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  Speaker 7: ten points per million, right, I'd love to see Matty
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  Speaker 7: Beaneers with the seventy point season, seventy five point season,
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  Speaker 7: a thirty goal season coming up here soon. So if
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  Speaker 7: we can see Matty Beaneers stream together, you know, four
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  Speaker 7: in two in these last five games, five and whatever,
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  Speaker 7: you know, three and seven, if he if he can,
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  Speaker 7: you know fill the score sheet in these next next
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  Speaker 7: five games. I think you're gonna you're gonna feel good
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  Speaker 7: about where he is going into next season.
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  Speaker 1: All right, our mail bag segment once again, you can
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  Speaker 1: ever it fits you is at the Voice fits Alconisky,
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  Speaker 1: also at al Kaniski. And we get a question here
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  Speaker 1: from Troy and this is as simple and direct, does
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  Speaker 1: it gets?
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  Speaker 5: All?
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  Speaker 4: Right? What's our next move?
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  Speaker 1: So it really depends on how this regular season is
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  Speaker 1: going to end. But I think we know as far
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  Speaker 1: as where this is tracking when it is going to
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  Speaker 1: end by game eighty two, potentially once again the crack
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  Speaker 1: and five games left regular season, they're nine points out.
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  Speaker 1: This is gonna be a very very tricky situation, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to tell you right now. But I again see
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  Speaker 1: merits here to both sides of this argument. I touched
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  Speaker 1: on this back at the top of the show. If
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  Speaker 1: you want to be aggressive, if you want to go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and find a new way, a new route to
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  Speaker 1: add your roster, if the playoffs are a priority, dig
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  Speaker 1: in its go time. Trademarkets where you got to go
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  Speaker 1: to hammer away and be prepared to pay up and
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  Speaker 1: pay up richly, not to mention Bobby McMahon due to
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  Speaker 1: be a UFA and with his run right now, he
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  Speaker 1: is showing that he is going to be worth potentially
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  Speaker 1: every single penny no matter what the final costs will
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  Speaker 1: be here. But this is again the cost of doing business,
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  Speaker 1: especially in the NHL when you're a fifth or franchise
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  Speaker 1: and you're also battling it out with teams who have
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  Speaker 1: been in this league for decades upon decades and they
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  Speaker 1: have a longer track record.
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  Speaker 4: Here's where I see.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to go with the younger route, you
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  Speaker 1: have UFAs said to depart, you'll have cap space opening up.
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  Speaker 1: That cap space is there in case you want to
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  Speaker 1: bring a veteran or two in who's going to help
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  Speaker 1: you up front? But also I think be a big
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  Speaker 1: culture guy. That's the most important thing for me. This
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  Speaker 1: is someone who's going to be I think aligned with
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  Speaker 1: Lane Lambert, his vision and what he laid down for
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  Speaker 1: the first two thirds of this season. From there, here's
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  Speaker 1: the beauty of this elevate Berkeley Catton, elevate, Matty Benier,
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  Speaker 1: still maybe even Shane Wright in this picture, Oscar Fisker Muleguard,
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  Speaker 1: he blew us away. Can Tyson Jugnauth also make this roster. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I know Ded take longer to develop, but he's shown
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  Speaker 1: the fast track to get into the NHL more so
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  Speaker 1: than others on this blue line. Some folks will say,
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  Speaker 1: you let the kids play, I will still show up.
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  Speaker 1: That's very important to consider when you have a plan
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  Speaker 1: in place and you provide direction.
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  Speaker 4: Watching the kids.
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  Speaker 1: Grow, no matter the ups and downs, is a fun
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  Speaker 1: thing here to watch and that will be an important
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  Speaker 1: part of this decision.
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  Speaker 4: Potentially for this next summer.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean four UFAs this summer, five to count
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  Speaker 8: Mount Murray. I can't see a situation where this team
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  Speaker 8: carries three goaltenders next season. So you know, as much
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  Speaker 8: as I like the person in the play of Matt Murray,
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  Speaker 8: I just don't see him being part of this roster
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  Speaker 8: long term. And that leaves you with Schwartz Toldenen, Bobby
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  Speaker 8: McMahon and Alexiak and this team I think has to
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  Speaker 8: find a way to hold on to Bobby McMahon.
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  Speaker 3: Now that may impact some of the.
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  Speaker 8: Other UFAs, it may not, but they've got to make
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  Speaker 8: a real hard decision on what it's going to take
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  Speaker 8: to keep Bobby McMahon around based on how his first
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  Speaker 8: sample size has come through here since the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 8: That's the big one for me, Mikey. I think if
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  Speaker 8: this team is able to come to terms and keep
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  Speaker 8: Bobby McMahon, the other uf as you know, I'm fifty
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  Speaker 8: to fifty on. I think that mcmahn's the most critical
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  Speaker 8: one of the bunch. I think going into next season,
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  Speaker 8: and everything you said is right, I want to keep
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  Speaker 8: seeing uh Coppo Coco continue to develop his game. I
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  Speaker 8: think that he's been fantastic since the return.
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  Speaker 4: I love you brought him up to Yeah, you.
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  Speaker 8: Know, yeah, he's He's definitely in that mix for me.
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  Speaker 8: I think on the blue line, you know, a guy
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  Speaker 8: like Rikor Evans, you know, listen, Matty Mneer's had a
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  Speaker 8: down here. I think Rikor Evans has had a down yere.
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  Speaker 8: I'm hoping he can get.
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  Speaker 3: It turned around for next year. I'd like to. I'd
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  Speaker 3: like to see that happen for sure.
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  Speaker 8: As far as the maybe the bottom four, the bottom
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  Speaker 8: pairings of defenseman, there could be some change there. We'll see, uh.
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  Speaker 8: But my highlights I think are are Coco and and
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  Speaker 8: McMahon as far as uh signing, signing McMahon, and seeing
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  Speaker 8: Coppo Coco continue to evolve his game.
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  Speaker 7: I think what's next for Seattle is is taking the
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  Speaker 7: next step.
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  Speaker 3: You know Utah. I'll use Utah as an example. And
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  Speaker 3: and Al.
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  Speaker 7: You talked to the two Army Bill Armstrong the other
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  Speaker 7: day when they were here, you know, he you were
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  Speaker 7: to ask him, you know, about what's been the difference
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  Speaker 7: between this year and last year. He told you last
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  Speaker 7: year we were playing meaningful games. But this year we're
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  Speaker 7: winning those meaningful games. And I think next year the
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  Speaker 7: Kraken need to be in that position. You know, this
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  Speaker 7: year the goal was to the barrel bottom basement, goal
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  Speaker 7: was to play meaningful games.
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  Speaker 3: In April, in March. You did that.
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  Speaker 7: Now next year your floor, your absolute basement floor.
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  Speaker 3: Playoffs.
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  Speaker 7: Don matter if it's one, don matter if it's WC two.
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  Speaker 7: You need to get into the playoff. That is the minimum,
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: That is the bare minimum. Next season for this team,
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  Speaker 7: six years in, you need to get back to the playoffs.
• 55:43
  Speaker 7: So you got four first over your next two seasons,
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  Speaker 7: You've got some We talked about the UFA is going
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  Speaker 7: to be pushed out. You talked about I mentioned it
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  Speaker 7: before in I open there are guys on this roster
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  Speaker 7: that have been of interest to other teams. Make me
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  Speaker 7: an offer, you know what I mean? There needs to
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  Speaker 7: be a roster overhaul. You know, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 7: players on this team that I know that we all
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  Speaker 7: like personally, our fans like as people they've grown close
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  Speaker 7: to and grown accustomed to. But these are the facts.
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  Speaker 7: There is something flawed with the roster as it is
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  Speaker 7: constructed today, and there needs to be fixes. There needs
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  Speaker 7: to be changes, and there needs to be hard I
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  Speaker 7: don't envy Jason Bottril, I don't envy the people who
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  Speaker 7: have to make those decisions, but there needs to be difficult, hard,
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  Speaker 7: maybe unpopular decisions made this summer to help advance this
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  Speaker 7: team to a bare bones minimum playoff spot next year.
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  Speaker 1: And I think also one thing that shows as far
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: as potential of this Jason Botterrel pulled off the biggest
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: trade at the deadline of Bobby McMahon. There's no one
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: that's come close to his goalscoring production for names moved.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: But once again there's one example. You make it move
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  Speaker 1: to fill a need, do it with purpose. You can
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  Speaker 1: find a way to begin change because change is good Everett,
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  Speaker 1: as you said, with what this team is looking to
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  Speaker 1: do here in the long term future. All right, to
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  Speaker 1: our three stars, we go right now, and I'll just
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  Speaker 1: begin from this point because it was such a tough
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: four game run and I kind of had to sit
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: back and dwell on this. But once again we have
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: opened this part of the conversation to more of a
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  Speaker 1: creative approach. I'll go for this with my third star
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  Speaker 1: and head coach Lane Lambert, because I look back last
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  Speaker 1: four games, three of them. This team came out ready
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  Speaker 1: against Utah, two nothing lead against Winnipeg, one nothing lead
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  Speaker 1: against Minnesota, one nothing lead against a team that had
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: thirty three wins when scoring first this season. Matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: they led to one. They showed that they were prepared
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  Speaker 1: to come and play Chicago. Didn't the course begin as well.
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  Speaker 1: But I think for the message we're getting for guys
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  Speaker 1: who have bought in and we're seeing this as well,
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  Speaker 1: there is once again reminders of what kind of culture
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  Speaker 1: he is trying to set. We have talked a lot
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  Speaker 1: about accountability, We've talked a lot about discipline, but also
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  Speaker 1: resolve is a big part.
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  Speaker 4: Of that too.
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  Speaker 1: So we're seeing a bit of a tug right now.
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  Speaker 1: I think between old versus new and new concepts are
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  Speaker 1: coming in. New concepts are going to break old habits,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: and breaking old habits will lead a new opportunity and
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: new victories as well. Again, this is a difficult period
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: they're going through right now, but I think once again
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  Speaker 1: for the message that's being sent for a difficult time.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Lane Lambert is my third start, my second star of
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Philip Grubauer. Granted a few got past him here, but
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: not many of these were his fault. If any forty
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  Speaker 1: two saves forty eight shots, this could have been much
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  Speaker 1: much worse, though. I think he came out prepared out
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  Speaker 1: of the gate against Winnipeg. The Mark Scheifflee break away
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  Speaker 1: way and then the rebound saved showed me at that
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  Speaker 1: point he was dialed in. You hope that he's certainly
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: back to health before the end of this regular season
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  Speaker 1: to cap off what has been a fine, fine campaign
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  Speaker 1: for him. Philip Grubauer is my second star. My first
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: star goes to Coppocaco four points in four games. He
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: has played great hockey since the Olympic break, much more
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: confidence with the puck. He's making plays. He's using size
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  Speaker 1: to his advantage. Cop Ocaca was my first star.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna steal one of yours. Mike.
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  Speaker 3: I like your creative your creative juices.
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  Speaker 7: If you want, this is your canvas. My third star
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: Mike Betton, thanks for feeling it and uh, you did
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  Speaker 7: well in Winnipeg and then traveling to Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, buddy, great great.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: Seeing your folks again. Who made the trip up to Minnesota.
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  Speaker 3: Oh it was so fund baby boy, do some work.
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  Speaker 7: So my third star Mike Betton, Uh, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't even I didn't even you know. I like
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: that star for Lane. You know, coaching is not the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: issue for this team.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: He's done it.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: He's tried it all and all the while for as
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: frustrated and is for annoyed, and as for as visibly
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: upset sometimes as.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: He is, he always makes time for us.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: You can tell that that it ain't for lack of trying,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 7: and he's always been measured.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: In his responses.
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  Speaker 7: So I appreciate especially after a tough week like this.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: Lane Lambert will be my second star and four points
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: four games. Wesley Fitzi's favorite cracking got Pococo enough said,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: I mean he was a. He was a bright spot
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: for this team. You know, I love the Grubauer shot
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 7: there as well. Maybe I'll give him my honorable mention.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: Not really his fault, the cracking. You know, when I
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: was doing the TV broadcast in Winnipeg, we had a
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: whole package on puck luck, just bad bounces, and that's
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 7: been the case in recent games. Philip Grubauer has given
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: Seattle chances to win time and time again the great starts.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: He's made some fun nominal saves early on. I mean,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: I think al we talked about how three four games
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: in a row. Now Kraken goaltending has had to make
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: bigger saves, game saving saves.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: On the first shift. But you shouldn't be needing to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: make a game.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 7: Saving save a minute and a half into a hockey game,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: and Gruby's been doing that, So I'll give him my
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: honorable mention.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, my three stars start with Maddy Beneers for my
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 8: third star. He's had assists in the Chicago and Winnipeg games.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 8: He's closing in on a fifty point season. Yes, you'd
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 8: like to see him get up to the seventy level,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 8: but it looks like he should finish at fifty or above.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 8: He looks and plays differently this season, and I like
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 8: the change that he's made to his game. Still producing
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 8: as much as he can offensively, but his defensive game
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 8: has improved so much. So he's my.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: First He's my third star.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: Second start.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna get to Jaden Schwartz a goal and assist
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: in that Chicago loss. He was involved on both goals
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: in the four to two loss. Three points over his
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 8: last five games. I think he's a leader on this team.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: I think he's a guy that gets it done in
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 8: all situations. Wherever he's needed, he steps up to the plate.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 8: He's someone that does not shy away from the front
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 8: of the net, plays their game in and game out.
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  Speaker 3: So he's my.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 8: Second star, and then, surprise, surprise, Kopocacco is my first
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 8: star as well. Assists in the Winnipeg in Minnesota game.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: Four points over his last five. He'd be a fifty
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: point guy as well if he was on an eighty
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 8: two game season. But I think he's good. He's at
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 8: about I don't know sixty two right now, so ten
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 8: or fourteenth short of where everybody else is at that's
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: played a full season, so good chance he'll be on
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 8: a fifty point season had he played a full year,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 8: and hopefully that's the case next year.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Very promising signs as he presses on the Crack and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: trying to press on here. With five games left in
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: the regular season, we're going to cover more of it
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: with a Crack and back home tomorrow night.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: We'll also look forward.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: To more reaction with the Crack and CEO todd Lywacky,
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  Speaker 1: who will address the media tomorrow morning nine thirty am
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  Speaker 1: at Climate Pledge Arena as Ron Francis stepping down end
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  Speaker 1: of this season as Crack and President of Hockey Operations.
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  Speaker 1: with you tomorrow the Crack in taking on Vegas third
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  Speaker 1: of four matchups faceous at seven airtimes at six thirty.
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