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The 4 A's of Gratitude Part 2: An Easy 4 Step Framework to Appreciate Others · Do Hard Things™ with Siegfried Tiegs

• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, all right, welcome back everybody to another episode of the do hard things podcast.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: I'm JT and I have studio with me the lovely Angie Petran.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: How are you doing this one, angie?
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  Speaker 2: I'm great.
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: I'm doing great, I'm alive, I'm breathing, I'm here and and it can only get better from here.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: It can morning's.
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  Speaker 1: We have just a while.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: I say we, I mean, hey, you're more of a morning person than I am, so I'll ride that train.
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  Speaker 2: I'll ride that train with you.
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  Speaker 1: But, hey, we're here, we're alive and we're gonna finish our topic.
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: We yeah, a couple episodes ago because I've posted a couple episodes since then yeah, we were talking about the four a's of gratitude, and we got through the first two, but we were still lacking the other two.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're talking about appreciation and approval.
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: This morning, we're gonna talk about admiration and attention, and it's just a simple framework as you go through the the day, about being Intentional, and we're in the season of giving right now Thanksgiving is next week so we should always have gratitude on our radar, but we don't, because life just is life and we just get kind of bogged down in the day to day and Focused on all the things that we have to do.
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: But if you want kindness in the world, we have to put it there, and we're just offering you a couple different ways to look at gratitude and to put it on your mental dashboard so you can, you know, apply it more often, yeah, and and that's it.
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: So Our greatest human desire is to feel loved and appreciated, and we want to be able to do that for other people, and there's a few different modalities of doing that.
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  Speaker 1: So, if you want to learn more about attention or appreciation and approval.
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: Check out the episode, couple episodes previous, but today we're gonna talk about admiration and attention.
• 2:42
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  Speaker 1: So, oh man, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So the other day we talked about appreciation, we talked about Approval.
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  Speaker 1: Now we want to dive into the third a, which is admiration and Admirations, about celebrating someone else's qualities and letting them inspire us.
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  Speaker 1: So, Angie, when you think about admiration, who do you admire?
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  Speaker 2: Who do I admire?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that changes, you know, depending on the situation that I'm in and and what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see.
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  Speaker 2: Currently I admire a co-worker, one of my friends.
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  Speaker 2: He's a combat camera, he's got a lot of experience, justin Morelle, and I just really admire him.
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  Speaker 2: I admire his work.
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  Speaker 2: He's very humble, he enjoys teaching others and he just puts a lot of good juju out there.
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  Speaker 2: He's not, he didn't come off, as you know, know-it-all, he just he's there to teach other people and help elevate their skill and craft.
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  Speaker 2: So so this in this current space and time I admire Justin Morelle.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome, great, so oftentimes we will admire, we'll call them idols, if you will.
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  Speaker 1: There are people that that you don't necessarily know or have contact with, but when we talk about admiration in this context of appreciation, like you just described as like a perfect example, it's like someone that you know, someone that you work with on a daily basis.
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: There's qualities about them, and I guess my next question would be how do you show them appreciation or tell them that you admire them, or have you done that?
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah verbally Just let me know.
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  Speaker 1: What does that look like on a day to day?
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  Speaker 2: Just letting him know that I think he's a good human and I appreciate his feedback and he's giving me some really good feedback on how to elevate my skill.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, I just I just let him know.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, dude, keep doing good things Keep, and you know he helps.
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  Speaker 2: He's here to help everybody.
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  Speaker 2: You know he he helps.
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  Speaker 2: He's in the class that I'm in.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in a professional development class, and so the stuff that he offers up to the entire class is just really good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, so with our, with our greatest humans, our greatest desires to feel loved and appreciated.
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: I suspect that if I were to ask him, if, if you know how he feels about you, you know acknowledging him and admiring his work and his ethic, he probably would find it very fulfilling.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: And, and that's that's the, that's the key with with admiration, it's looking at those around you and just telling them what are the qualities and the traits of, of what you appreciate about them, what you, what you admire about them, and it feels, it feels good when someone you know kind of gives you that pat on the back, and so that's, that's a great example.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: It's acknowledging the goodness that we see, it's acknowledging the skills and the traits and it, you know, you, you exchange energy, when, when, when you do that in a positive way, and oftentimes people will be like, I feel, you know, when someone they don't want the recognition they don't want because they don't want to be in the spotlight, it can feel uncomfortable.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: But if you ask everyone candidly like, do you like to appreciate other people, and people will say, yes, well, we've got to be as good as accepting the admiration as well.
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: This is hard, this is very difficult, especially, I know I have had to work on this like, just like being accepting of it, cause in the military it was just like go go.
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: We do a pretty good job of admiring others in the military and acknowledging them for the most part, but when it was time to like receive it, it was always like, oh I, just, I head down, I don't need this to be about me and you're allowing others to have the moment to appreciate you if I'm making sense in my city.
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you are.
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Also, I kind of want to point out you can appreciate more than one person, because you know I'm sitting here thinking about it and I have another classmate.
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: Her name is Zoa and she's a bodybuilder and she does not look her age.
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  Speaker 2: She is who I aspire to be in the health and wellness realm.
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  Speaker 2: Since we've been here, she has stuck to her fitness routine.
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  Speaker 2: She goes to the gym, she's still meal preps, she has a great attitude and she's constantly inspiring everyone in our class to do better, be better and just be a better person inside and out.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: So I also want to say that I appreciate Zoa as well.
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  Speaker 2: She is one of the most amazing humans I've ever met my entire life, that's awesome, I've actually got two people that.
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: I'm super, super appreciating this month yeah that's great.
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: And when we do the Do Our Things Weekly Wake Up, like you know, that's what we're doing.
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: We're allowing because we get recommendations from people and usually it's an admirable thing.
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: They've done something or there's something about the person and we're kind of highlighting them, and so point is, it's just another way, it's another form of appreciation, A few different forms that you can do.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: This is a verbal expression, so just a verbal compliment, like I admire this about you, I'm impressed by this about you.
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: It's just vocally expressing that to them and to your point.
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  Speaker 1: It could be like in one-on-one, it could be in a group setting, it could be a group of people Like hey, look at this team of people that have done some amazing things together.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: But verbal expression is one way.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Written praise, like just a handwritten note or a letter or maybe a public testimonial.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: This is why we ask for the podcast.
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: What do you call that?
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Apple.
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about reviews.
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: Reviews yes, I got you.
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: I got you.
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: The it's.
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  Speaker 1: It's a form of written praise, right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean ideally.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we don't want people to be like, hey you guys.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys wanted to say, hey you guys suck, I mean, by all means put it on there, but we're looking for, you know, written praise.
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  Speaker 1: It makes us feel good, it helps us with the algorithm, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's, there's numerous ways of doing written praise.
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  Speaker 1: It could be simply on a Facebook post acknowledging someone else, like tagging them in a post to be like you know what I admire this about you.
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  Speaker 1: So written praise is a form of admiration.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: Listening and engaging is another one.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's it's active listening, by listening to the person, which is a form of admiration for their insights, and it's engaging in dialogue, like asking them more about what they're passionate about or what they're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just, it's another simple way that's often overlooked, but just listening and engaging with someone like here, you know, like I'm allowing you the time to talk about you know what you're passionate about and giving you that space to do that right.
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: Supportive actions is another one.
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  Speaker 1: So participating in their causes, maybe supporting them I know that there's people that will be doing some type of fundraiser or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like I'm more apt to Promote them because I admire them.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: I admire what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Recently my coach, sheena, went to Europe and Competed and she had to do a big fundraiser.
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  Speaker 1: And it was just when I saw that I mean it wasn't even without a Shredded doubt like I went over there on her page and threw her some money her way, you know, because yes, so I just admire her body building and or a weightlifting.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: She's just east and awesome and I'm like that.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a way to support and she had overwhelming support From that.
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  Speaker 1: She raised more than the amount of money that she needed and it's a testament to her character and how awesome she is.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she is an amazing human.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah so.
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  Speaker 1: And Gifts, tokens of appreciation, public recognition, reflective feedback those are all ways that you can show admiration.
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  Speaker 1: You know I like the reflective feedback right, especially if you were in a environment role at work where you have the opportunity to you know on paper, give you know performance appraisal and you can acknowledge that.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: And written form is great.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Or you know another great way of doing this and people often don't realize this on LinkedIn.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: Many people have a LinkedIn profile.
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  Speaker 1: You can actually go on their LinkedIn profile page and submit like Highlight a skill that they have, because you can put like your skills that are on there.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: And you can actually go in there and put a couple sentences like hey, I worked with this individual, this is you know, and it's.
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  Speaker 1: It's publicly shown and that's really admirable, because when you go on it and you're looking at profiles, when you see a bunch of those for someone like this person's, it's just okay.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: This, this, this person's pretty legit, or someone took the time to do that.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a pretty awesome thing.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was doing that as like a random act of kindness for a bit was like a challenge.
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  Speaker 1: I was doing is to try to do those a day.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a great way if you want to do like a little challenge Go to go to someone's LinkedIn profile that you've worked with or know and acknowledge them.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: That's a good idea.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we should run that as a some type of challenge.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Great, so, all right, all right, the the final.
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  Speaker 1: Any.
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  Speaker 1: Well, before we switch there, angie, anything else on admiration?
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: who do you admire?
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: Who do I admire?
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: I admire my wife.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I and that I know that goes, that's probably pretty.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's, that's a, that's a toss-up, right, that's a, that's a easy layup, but truly like she is what I am not like.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: She's happy, the lucky, hard working.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Like I'm in like a challenging mood this morning and I she just, I don't know she kind of called me out on something and I'm like I appreciate her for putting up with that and just the just.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: She's just a happy person and I want to be more like her.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Like she lights up the room.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: I just admire that about like nothing really gets her down and I and she's so freaking gritty.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: So I admire her I.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Who else do I admire outside of that?
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I was just thinking about Sheena, like we were just talking about her.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: So she's from because of she is in a sport that I am not but coaches incredibly well and she is just a beast and she's had some challenges with her life and her dynamic and stuff and she's such a giving person that she's someone that that I admire.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: And you know what?
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I probably have never Vocalized that like I have now and I probably should do that.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should let her know Because she is an amazing human, and I don't think I've even told her, yeah, but yeah, she's pretty awesome which is all the reason why you know we should talk about these things more and put these on our mental dashboard, because there's probably there's a lot of people in my life now that think about it.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I probably need to say those things, yeah, more often too, and we all have that, and that's how we make the world a better place, right?
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so all right.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Final a is attention, and it's it's about basically showing up with intention, mm-hmm, and giving your attention to other people.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Ie, like you know, maybe putting the phone away when you're at the dinner table or Just being physically present.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: We were talking about, you know, the weekend.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: You know what did I appreciate about the weekend?
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm, spending the time with my daughters with some form of attention, doing something difficult like being out in the cold in the deer, stand we there.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: There were moments that maybe some phones were pulled out, but predominantly we were there having a good time.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I actually made a little video about it.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I put on tiktok and Facebook and it was just.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: It was just a fun Weekend and it was all about attention.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: We didn't shoot a single thing and I am more fulfilled and happy about the weekend.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: It's not about putting the meat in the freezer, it's really about spending time with my daughters.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: So it's about the attention and People want in the season of the holidays.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: People want your presence with the sea and that presence with a tee right.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: So, then, more presence and attentive to those around you.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: So what do you think about attention?
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Put down your phone.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: People put down your phone.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Give people your undivided attention.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I will tell you, I have been putting my phone away so much over the past I don't know five or six weeks that I often miss a lot of text messages, a lot of things.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I haven't been on social media much.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm posting here and there but it it's great to connect with so many people, really connect with so many people, and just listen and be in the moment and it's, it's life changing.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: And when I look around and I see all you know, all these people on their phones and in conversation, but not really in conversation, I'm so happy that the people that I've been connecting with have essentially been doing the same, like same as me.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: They keep their phone away.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: You know it's tucked away, they're not distracted and it's just great to connect with people like that.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely love it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I've been more aware of my phone and when to pull it out and when not to try to, especially if I'm trying to be.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: There's so many people that live physically present with each other but they're not present with each other because they're glued to their phones.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's a challenge with the teenagers that we have, and even ourselves sometimes.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know some of you we sit in their scroll.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's put this thing down so I can engage in a conversation.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: The technology is great, but it's very addictive for us and it's sapping a lot of our attention.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Being deliberate, being intentional about that, is important.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: When it comes to attention, active listening, giving people your full attention, there's nothing I try to be very cognizant of not looking at my phone or my watch when I'm talking to someone, not even glancing at it, because what you're signaling is there's something else more important.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: You can sense that if you're talking to someone and someone's doing that, it's uncomfortable.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Being fully engaged in that conversation is important.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Making a point to be physically present to support people at events like this weekend Lacey Sun Brooks had his football game.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Personally, going to these types of events are not my thing.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not a huge football fan and there's a lot of people there that's loud and it's noisy, but to go there and show support that was really important.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: To be there and witness that and show that we were there and support it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Finding opportunities for that is important.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: It's showing people that it's a priority, although for you personally it may not be what you want to do in that moment, but you're there in support of someone, you're putting yourself aside and you're to be there is really important.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: That's showing that you care about them.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yep 100%.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Responsiveness it's about timely responses.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: When someone reaches out to you, respond promptly.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: As a performance coach, you tell people that you're not customer service and you don't have to answer in real time.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: But you don't want to let that time.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: You want to let them know that it's not because if you're doing that, it's not because you don't care about them and you want to wait days to get back to them, Trying to find some balance there.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: But a timely response to someone Leaving people on red I guess that's a term now because you can send someone a message on Facebook and you can see whether or not they've seen it or not Feels like crap when you've messaged someone and they don't look at it for a couple of days.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: It sucks.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, let's see here what else.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Inquisitiveness this is an interesting one being curious and showing interest in things that you may not understand.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Do you have people around you that you might display some curiosity and inquisitiveness too?
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I would just you know what?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: What you just said made me think of Coach Lasso and where he says be curious, not judgmental.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: And I really like that.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think enough people ask enough questions to get to know the people around them enough.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of hey, how are you today, what's going on, what have you been up to?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: But really digging deep and asking those questions, hey, what do you like to do in your free time?
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: What's, how did you get to where you're at?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: You know all these different open-ended questions that I think we should be asking.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: That too often we don't.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would be great to get in the habit of that and really engage and listen and get to know the people around you a little bit better.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to connect with my teenagers, like my daughters.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: They're really into like anime and Page, for example, is really good like a drawing anime and I don't understand it.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: It's just not a form of art form that I'm really into.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I don't quite understand it, but it's very popular.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: But I, you know, I engage her in conversations, I try to understand like who are the characters, who are you know, what are the things that she is curious and engaged about.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: And I think earlier I had made the mistake of kind of teasing it a little bit and then I realized what the last thing I want to be as her parent is her first bully, right, and I was like I need to like what is that about?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Because I didn't get it Doesn't give me the Doesn't mean it's not important to her and I search that I don't tease her about it anymore.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: That was like a fall for me as a parent and now I try to figure out ways to support it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, good for you.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: No, I don't.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I don't get it at all, but I encourage it because it's something that she's really into, right, yeah, yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I went to visit my brother this weekend and he's a big gamer and so he I just asked him to show me all you know, these two different games.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I think one's Destiny and one's something else, but it's, it was really interesting.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not a gamer, I don't play any video games, but it was super cool for him to explain and show me all the things and all the different worlds and all the different things you can do, and I learned a lot this weekend about gaming that I never knew before.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: But it's, if I never would have asked, you know, I mean yeah, or been open enough to listen.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go out and game because that's not my deal, but I think it's super cool now.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I had no idea.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: So we, as humans, we can kind of we tend to like, naturally like go toward.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: If they're not like us, we tend to tease them or kind of, you know, make fun of them, poke fun or whatever, but we all have differences, and being Like switching that to be genuinely curious about what it is that they're into and being inquisitive is a form of of, you know, admiration and appreciation, which I think is important.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: It makes people feel good when they can like share what they're passionate about, as opposed to teasing them.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: It does the complete opposite, right?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, so that's, it's a little thing that I think is really important.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: So, alright.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: And then finally, empathy, offering emotional support, just being there to support people during difficult times, to help them support their emotional well-being.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: So, and then, yeah, celebrating their achievements.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: So that's it, and we're kind of against the clock.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: We got to go in three minutes, right, you got to get off to.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I got to get off, yeah, I got to get up here in like five minutes.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to say really quick.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: So there, when we talk about empathy, can we show people how we care right?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Not everybody's a hugger.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I know I'm a super hugger, like I love physical touch, I love hugging everybody, but not everybody's a hugger.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: But guess what you can reframe?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: That is when you listen to people, when you really give them your undefined attention, when you ask them questions about how they're doing and you listen.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: That is an emotional hug.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Think about it that way.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying yeah, you can be an emotional hugger I like that Be an emotional hugger.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: So for age of gratitude, appreciation, approval, admiration and attention are all different techniques and different things that you can do to admire and show gratitude and appreciation for others.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Our greatest human desires to Show love and appreciation and we need to do a better job of receiving it as well.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey, did you see that comment?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: He left us.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: We appreciate you, buddy and definitely admire you too, thank you.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Just good.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Dude, just had lunch with him the other day.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Dude, appreciate.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Jeff brought me lunch the other day.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: It was awesome.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: We went to this Greek place, the what's it called?
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: The man, my brain is not working.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Spartan euros.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Euros is.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Spartan euros, veteran old great place.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go, spartan euros.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I hadn't been there.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I guess a place has been there for like two years.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I had never been there.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: They've got great Euro pizza, veteran owned and operated.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: It's good.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, go get you some.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Alright, so, speaking of admiration and this is my favorite part of the show is where we get to admire someone.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Awesome for doing hard things.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: And let me share my screen here if I can get it to work, and it's not working.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I think you got a little delay here.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Happy Monday.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Happy Monday, happy and bye.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Happy Monday though Fair for awesomeness.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, here we go.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Do you see it?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: There we go, boom, alright.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Terry Bray.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: She was nominated by her friend.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, hang on a second.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I got all sorts of things going on here, ding-ding-ding-ding.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Terry Bray is a, she's a runner and she did recently did the the gravel worlds and gravel worlds is a.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: So gravel cycling has become very, very popular in the in the Midwest in the country in general.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: But at gravel worlds you can actually do a run and a race consecutively back-to-back during the weekend.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And she, at the recent gravel worlds in Lincoln, nebraska, she ran a 25k followed by a 75 mile bike ride the following day into some really tough conditions in the Midwest when you can have some rain and things like that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: When you're out there on the gravel bikes it can turn into like peanut butter muck and it can be some very treacherous conditions.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: And so she ran and then immediately did a 75 mile gravel race and some pretty tough.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: That is awesome and in that specific incident she displayed some grit and some tenacity.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she is also very inspirational to her friends because she's constantly doing endurance events and and pushing herself outside of her comfort zone.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So Terry Bray is from Springfield, missouri and she's beast and has a bunch of friends out there that that appreciate her and admire her tenacity and grit and for that she's this week's do hard things.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: We can yeah?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: We're gonna send you a shirt for being awesome and, yes, we appreciate you and you're right, I got a boogie.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, don't forget, go make somebody smile today.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Spread the love, spread the smiles.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I have got to jump off here.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: J, you have an amazing day.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I will.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I'm because I'm gonna make it, so it can only go up from here.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: So that's right, all good.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Hey, for all those out there, keep kicking ass.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Have a happy Thanksgiving week.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Angie, we appreciate and admire you.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And for everyone else out there, keep doing hard things.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: We'll see you guys in the next episode.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you, do hard things.